SANU head defends statement about Kosovo

It's just a reality. Do you know who is this person?? And hoe much he knows about?? This person is the head of SANU that means he knows more then a president PM and all GOVNT.. It is not surprising - remember Borisav Jovic - this person could not die before he admitteed and regrets.
This is as far you Serbs you can go I am afraid..

Well there is amazingly a voice of reason coming from the dark shallow depths of delusion and self-lying... amazingly again from the same institution that published the infamous 'Memorandum' on Kosova back in the 80s which led to catastrophes of 90s in the Balkans. But Serbs have always believed in lies and myths and weird thing is they can't do live without them.

He is just expressing an opinion shared by the vast majority of Serbs. Serbs say Kosovo is independent. 63% according to b92 and ipsos. His statement is not special or unique but serbias. Its also vucic and dacic posiitions as they signed Brussels.

"Kostic added he "would not talk about whether he is a patriot," and "stressed he could have left Serbia 20 times, for a lot of money" - but decided to stay "with his children and grandchildren."

Which makes him different to the many Serbian 'patriots' and 'nationalist' (may they be Serbs or proud Kosovarians) who post their comments here from Australia, the USA or various EU states.


"Nikolic urged SANU to declare itself on Kostic's stance, and whether after such a statement he can remain president of the Academy."

Well, there have been more controversial statements be the SANU which didn't have any consequences. Anyone remember the infamous 'SANU memorandum'?

Let's face the facts already :

1. All of Kosovo will be under same law and Constitution of Kosovo ( which is in direct contradiction with Serbian) - So when Vucic/Dacic signed it in Brussels they broke it.

2. Chapter 35 and Brussels agreement and future agreements are there to save face and let down Serbs from Kosovo down easy - Kinda like you do with the crazy girlfriend.

3. What is Serbias solution for Kosovo a) Dacic says partition which EU does not want as there goes Bosnia and Macedonia which will go well for Serbs and Albanians but not the rest.
b) Vucic has not put any plan.
c) If Serbia was serious to have Kosovo as a part of Serbia right after the war would make Albanian official Language and gave Kosovo Veto over its territory etc etc but they want Kosovo without the people and never had a sound solution for people there.
Now is ball in Albanins said to give rights to Serbs they wanted in Yugoslavia.

Time will tell but as of today Serbia has no control of Kosvo and North is still under NATO and not possible for them to cut off ( no man's land will be closed with chapter 35).

North has 45K residents and with Borders closing they have no choice but to corporates.

What will Serbia say when Kosovo joins UEFA which is European organisation? Gibraltar joined so will Kosovo!

Oh dont forget point 14 in Brussels agreement says in path to EU and no Province has ever joined EU its countries that join EU!!!

This guy is speaking the truth, reality cannot be denied for too long.
I have yet to hear of a plan as to how are we going to get Kosovo back.
War seems out of the question, and I dont see many serbs going to fight there other than crazy ultras.
Suppose we convinced them to join Serbia voluntarily, that would involve as a minimum Albanian as an official language, 1/3 of the parliament will be Albanian with veto power, the country will be deadlocked for ever with political wranglings.
Furthermore, overtime, their population would increase more than Serbia's and in all probability will be the majority mid term, so the fate of Kosovo might befall over all Serbia and Serbs be minority in their own country.
I always maintained that if we had smart politicians we should recognize Kosovo against some economic concessions from EU, but nationalist ideologies dont die so easily. Kosovo is lost and it is better for Serbia so, why our politicians cant see it, it baffles me.

I don't know sj, Slovenia & Croatia were richer than Serbia when they were all together in Yugoslavia and they are richer now still.

Nikolic wants the guy to lose his job because he said something that confronts his beliefs. I've said it before and I'll say it again. As bad as Kosovo's political elite is they still come out much brighter then Serbia's.
Nikolic is a buffoon.

This guy insults moderate Serbs every time he speaks. Pure comedy.

^^^For these reasons, the status quo suits Serbia just fine. Kosovo-Metohija does not function in Serbia, but is not a country either.
(Ari Gold, 19 October 2015 18:40

8).Keep dreaming...

Wonder how many Serbs have had heart attacks.

As for the statement itself, what has he actually that needs defending? He has said was it plainly obvious, Serbia does not run Kosovo. It has not run it for 16 years and it will not run it again. The best Serbia can achieve, is a degree of influence, that is the maximum it can hope for. Running it, meaning making its laws, collecting taxes, patrolling its borders etc, that day has gone and it has been consigned to the dust bins of history. sj and Ari Gold can still navigate holy Kosmet on Google maps, to get that feeling of being in charge again

If that were true, these trolls Albos would not be posting.
(sj, 20 October 2015 12:59)

I totally agree.... If X were to be true, there trolls Albos, Serbs, etc would not be posting :)
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sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians.
(sj, 20 October 2015 09:41)

Oh, that's great actually. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of not being run by Serbia (EU, Yankees, etc, etc... all is fine for Kosovo). It's so good that Kosovo has the CE of B92 forums sj thinking day and night about Kosovo's wellbeing...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

oh no for sj, Serbia is doing really, pretty soon it will have enough reserves to buy Greece. as for Kosovo and Albania, I agree with you, they are dumps, so is the heavenly land however, it is the reason you live as far away from it as possible.

The reaction of the president of Serbia Mr. Nikolic on the statement of the president of SANU about Kosovo reminds me the reactions of the dictatorial president of North Korea Kim Jong Una.
Where is the right of thought and personal expression in Serbia?!!!

Here are the facts on Kosovo-Metohija

1.) Since Vucic has been in power, only two countries have recognized Kosovo-Metohija as an independent state.
2.) Serbia has on its side the largest country in the world and the two most populated countries.
4.) NATO powers have occupied Kosovo-Metohija for many years and Serbia has not had control over its province since 1999. Serbia has not challenged that, and yet there is still enormous amounts of pressure to get Serbia to agree to its own capitulation. Why? Why is Serbia's recognition of such significance to this whole project if it already can't control most parts of Kosovo-Metohija?
5.) The KLA have unsuccessfully tried to steal more Serbian property in the past year (Trepca, Brezovica and Gazivoda), but foreign investors will not buy it from the KLA because in business, property rights are eternal. And they know who it really belongs to.
6. The Association of Serb Municipalities give the Serb community de-facto separation from Pristina and allow for Serbia to directly finance the economies of these municipalities. This the KLA as agreed to and Kurti has been trying to start a civil war ever since.
7.) This year over 100,000 Albanians- somewhere around 5% of the population of Kosovo-Metohija, took desperate measures to leave because the KLA have ruined their living standards.

^^^For these reasons, the status quo suits Serbia just fine. Kosovo-Metohija does not function in Serbia, but is not a country either.

It seems that some wise people in Serbia do not like hiding their faces behind the pinky finger.
Kostic looks like he is one of them.
One day they will be majority and they will not be ashamed to accept the reality.And only then we,Albanians,will call serbs a "good neighbors" of ours....lol
Dean the Great.

The reaction of the president of Serbia Mr. Nikolic on the statement of the president of SANU about Kosovo reminds me the reactions of the dictatorial president of North Korea Kim Jong Una.
Where is the right of thought and personal expression in Serbia?!!!
(Notorious, 19 October 2015 17:14)

You only have the right to get involved in political discourse in Serbia if you're the head of the Serbian church. Otherwise, the President says you must shut up if you're the head of any other institution.Unless of course you say what he tells you to say. So one day Serbia behaves as if it is Iran, ruled by Ayatollah Amfilohje and mullah Irenjej. The next day it behaves like North Korea, ruled by the Almighty marvelous leader, Nikolic Jong Un.

"Yes we do and sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians."

oh dear, back again? what country in the Balkans in 'financed' by itself? Serbia? Serbia relies on remittance, just like Kosovo. Never mind Serbia, Greece, an EU member relies on the EU for its financing. lets face it, all of the Balkans rely on outsiders for their survival

@sj
Albanians are leaving Kosovo for the same reason Serbs in south Serbia (Presevo,Bujanovac) are leaving South Serbia: economic reasons.
Kosovo's politicians may be incompetent, but so are Serbia's. From your comments it sounds like Serbia is the paradise on earth.
What's the common denominator in Balkans are corrupt politicians using national issues as scapegoat for their own failures trying to find guilty parties at traditional "enemies" instead of their own policies.
Language aside, there is no social difference if you are in Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Montenegro or Macedonia. The official"party"line is that its neighbors fault why we are poor and miserable, but somehow media thirsty politicians are our solution or saviors.

Yes, it's countries that joined EU, without the land areas which are disputed and governed by unrecognized authorities. Remember Cyprus?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 October 2015 21:57)

Good point however not the same thing Eu says they dont want another Cyprus and lets face it no EU country recognises Turk area ( no country except Turkey).

(Ari Gold, 19 October 2015 18:40)

1) Well let's face it 106 countries have recognised Kosovo so far numbers will be smaller as the fact some for own reasons some for geopolitical reasons will not do so.
But since Vucic Took office Kosovo joined Olympic comity and will join UNESCO, So will Councill of Europe and UEFA lets give it time.

Let's wait till May next year and see true results after UNESCO, after UEFA, Councill of Europe and Chapter 35 opens.

My opinion why EU wants Serbia to make it in writing is that they want this to be closed and no change in other borders. Kurti on the other side is an idiot Serbs should rule their area as long as its within Kosvo constitution, and they should get money direct if it comes for them only be it from Serbia, Russia, or even say you personally you want to send money to them direct you should without Albanians taking a cut nothing wrong with that.

Ari also many Serbs are leaving Serbia my roommates two sisters just left for Germany as Doctors this is not just Kosovo problem but Balkan problem.

8).Keep dreaming...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 19 October 2015 23:32)

Yes we do and sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians.

"Oh dont forget point 14 in Brussels agreement says in path to EU and no Province has ever joined EU its countries that join EU!!!"
(Bilbao, 19 October 2015 17:02)

Yes, it's countries that joined EU, without the land areas which are disputed and governed by unrecognized authorities. Remember Cyprus?

Quite the show coming from Belgrade these days. After securing more institutional guarantees over Kosovo than Serbia has had in more than a decade, SANU the ever-present organization of gloom and doom for everything Serbian says the game is up, and Toma plays right into it. Truth is, no one side controls Kosovo; not Belgrade, not Pristina, not even the US. If anyone or anything controls Kosovo, it's a small handful of individuals, Albanian and Serbian, who barely conceal their links to organized crime and political corruption. But of course if one measures control in absolutes, both SANU and Vetevendosje believe Kosovo is out of the hands of its "rightful" owners.

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 11:45)

Yes I’m back on Serbian based media site unlike you who can’t even find an Albanian…opps I forgot that Albanians are still struggling with the concept of electricity let alone the internet.
First of all Serbia does not rely on so called remittances laddie. It has been borrowing heavily unlike Kosova. The only funding Serbia receives from the EU is to pay the politicians to sing the praises of the EU.
I’ve been to both Albania and Kosovo and both are dumps too. I strongly suggest you go there instead of writing nonsense.

I see you're still making up your own realities and then using them as facts to base your opinions on Brian. You are, if anything, persistent in your delusions.

what on earth are you on about? talk people there? what i tell is is verifiable by data, what you tell me is hearsay. Croatia and Slovenia are richer than Serbia. This is not my claim, this is the claim of the world bank and UN figures. go argue with them if you thin they're wrong. talk to people on the grounds (!) what a stupid comment

No Serbia is not doing good, but its potential is far, far greater than any of the other former Yugoslav states. I been to all of them.
(sj, 20 October 2015 13:32)
True, but alas that "potential" will never see reality, not as long as Serbia wants to bury its head in the sand and think that they can have it all. Kosovo is lost to Serbia and been that way for 15 years, and it is being sponsored by the very club Serbia wants to join. Note the EU is to sign pre-ascension agreement with Kosovo next week. How many decades will Serbia be stuck in chapter 35?

During that interview, beside his statement about Kosovo, Kostic also said that an alliance with Russia was "an artificial alternative" for Serbia, and that the country "should enter, while vomiting, this paradise with the European Union"

That would be closely followed by a headline saying "Fat Man Drowns In His Own Vomit".

"Ari also many Serbs are leaving Serbia my roommates two sisters just left for Germany as Doctors this is not just Kosovo problem but Balkan problem."
(Bilbao, 20 October 2015 00:13)

But I think they'll already have a job there, and I don't think they go as fake asylum seekers, like the majority of their Kosovo Albanian Balkan fellows

For the last 16 years the only people that have run Kosovo has been the EU and its rules are reinforced by non-Albanian military or police. For the Albos that actually believe that Kosovo lives of so called collected taxes or makes laws or patrols it’s so called borders are living in lal lal land. It’s like Kosovo is some kind of wonderland where cash springs forth from mountain springs, but you have to wonder why are Albos leaving that paradise called Kosova if that was the case? If that were true, these trolls Albos would not be posting.

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 13:11)

No Serbia is not doing good, but its potential is far, far greater than any of the other former Yugoslav states. I been to all of them.

Please note the refugees don’t want to stay in Croatia or Slovenia.
(sj, 21 October 2015 12:48
Notice how quickly they pass through Serbia too, don't know what caused the hiatus but I see things have not changed since you came back, still "do not trust verifiable data, trust what I tell you".
Missed the amusement.

It is hard to imagine that in countries who are pretending to be cradles of free speech and democracy someting like this posible. Please, corect me if I am wrong,but it is imposible that generalo menagar of Smitsonian institut ever said that United States of America needs to find a way to return Texas and California to Mexico becouse spanish lenguige is dominant in this states... Or, looking 10 years in future alowing Hawai to organize referendum to become part of PRC( Public Republic China)...

Verifiable data eh? Prior to the GFC in 2008, I recall that the western rating agencies gave all toxic loans the AAA+ rating and look what happened there. I could sell people like you land on Alpha Centruri and you would walk away feeling you got a good deal LOl.
However, I see you have not answered the question “how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth?
(sj, 22 October 2015 09:06)

The question you should ask is how Serbia keeps managing to maintain its poverty?

Also the very fact that you have this illusion of grandeur about your own intelligence proves the opposite. Every fool I've met in my life thought he was super smart and they could sell people anything. All they could sell was, tons of illusion to their own mind. Don't flatter yourself. I have a feeling the next Einstein is not posting on B92; accept reality and join the rest of the mere mortals.

I agree with EVERYBODY, just keep them checks and all the free stuff coming and rolling. Y'all hear?
P.S. God bless you!

* "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ... Kosova aka Kosovastan"

Now tell me how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth? What productions do they have? Slight of hand?

No wonder they led you around by your nose.
(sj, 21 October 2015 14:18)

Well, comes to question the GDP per capita numbers that are produced by the IMF and others. I was recently in both Belgrade and Athens, and let me tell you, Athens looked like a war zone in some areas with slums and people sleeping on the streets everywhere. You cannot say the same about Belgrade. Now look at the GDP per Capita numbers, Greece at over $25 thousand, Serbia around $13 thousand. The only possible explanation is the complete eradication of the middle class. As well, the US posts unemployment figures of 5-6 %; over 95 Million American citizens are on food stamps or have dropped out of the employment pool. The real unemployment rate is closer to 15% is not higher.

If you think Athens is bad, try going to work in Los Angeles, USA you can't! Most of downtown LA businesses have shut down or moved. Many business flights are going to the Orange County airport to avoid the LA international airport. The American media especially CNN has stolen pages off Nazi Propaganda minister Goebbels and the American people are finally getting it as the polls suggest with Donald Trump leading in the Republican race.

Notice how quickly they pass through Serbia too, don't know what caused the hiatus but I see things have not changed since you came back, still "do not trust verifiable data, trust what I tell you".
Missed the amusement.
(a New day, 21 October 2015

Verifiable data eh? Prior to the GFC in 2008, I recall that the western rating agencies gave all toxic loans the AAA+ rating and look what happened there. I could sell people like you land on Alpha Centruri and you would walk away feeling you got a good deal LOl.
However, I see you have not answered the question “how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth?

icj1, 20 October 2015 14:50)


I totally agree.... If X were to be true, there trolls Albos, Serbs, etc would not be posting :)
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The babbling AI is one of those trolls.


Oh, that's great actually. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of not being run by Serbia (EU, Yankees, etc, etc... all is fine for Kosovo). It's so good that Kosovo has the CE of B92 forums sj thinking day and night about Kosovo's wellbeing...

Which sj are you talking about? is it the first, second or third person sj? Or is it another sj which speaks to you from your head?

P.S. AI = Albanians Idiot

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(Niko, 20 October 2015 22:07)

On the issue of Serbia I suggest you read my comments again where I have said that Serbia is in a bad state but its potential is far far better than any other in that region..

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 14:24)

They were richer when in Yugoslavia but not now my little friend. Go and have a look for yourself. Don’t look up some website and look at the PPP of these countries but go and talk to people that live there. Slovenes openly state that they are unhappy today and that they lived much better in Yugoslavia. Even Croats are making the same noises.
These two countries live off tourism and that is 3 months of the year i.e June, July and August so what do they do for the rest? If the EU did not supplement their budgets they would be poorer than Albania.
Please note the refugees don’t want to stay in Croatia or Slovenia.

(Nikolle, 21 October 2015 13:30)

What verifiable data? I’ve seen data in official publications that is pure rubbish. The world bank is no better than the CIA World fact book or IMF – these are all controlled by the US. ? Bullshit is bullshit mate.

Its like the US economic recovery. Since 2008 month after month you read and hear how the US is recovering – its all crap. Then the fact that China has overtaken the US as No1 economy. In what western publication/site have you seen this stated? Not one, but like it or not it has happened. Maybe by the year 4052 they will finally admit it.

Now tell me how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth? What productions do they have? Slight of hand?

No wonder they led you around by your nose.

(just the facts, 21 October 2015 14:44)

I feel sorry for you poor dumb people for two reasons. Firstly, power is now moving from Washington to Moscow and Beijing – look at Syria where the Russians are doing things with impunity. In the South east Asia region the US wants to challenge China’s claim to a few coral islands and their “strongest ally” Australia, and it has announced that they are not taking part in any sea patrols with the US.
Secondly, Turkey has been on the list for 30 years so far and it still not in the EU. Do you think that the EU will let Kosovo in so that Albanians can leave? Germany will return thousands from Kosovo to cope with the current influx of people from Syria.
The EU grab for land is like Mr Creosote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXH_12QWWg8
But its all too late LOL.

(gregovik, 21 October 2015 17:05)

I spent two week in Athens in August and stayed in Omonia which is very close to the Greek Parliament and you are correct that large sections of Athens does look like a war zone. I also went to inland Greece and was horrified to see the number of towns whose businesses are just hanging on.
The problem with numbers and statistics is that you can manipulate them to suit any purpose.
The US level of unemployment is well above 15% and that is something even respected US academics agree. Even your figure of 95 million living off food stamps would tell you that 15% does not sound right.
Also, electing Trump will not help the US. The US is too far gone to pull itself out of the financial quagmire. It will owe 20 trillion by December 2015 and it has already signed up for its next trillion dollars for 2016.
Trump can do nothing. He is only playing to the audience to get elected.

(j, 22 October 2015 13:21)

People like you that have read something somewhere think you know it all. Sadly, you have no idea, you have been nowhere and seen nothing. You’re an internet troll that thinks you have it all at your fingertips.
I have been to Serbia in the last month or so and I know that it is in a poor state, but people like you tell me that Croatia and Slovenia are richer I then ask the question, how? Their biggest income earner is tourism, but it only last 3 months of the year. When I ask where does the rest of that income come from? All I get is “verifiable data” crap.
I then remind them of the rating agencies giving the toxic loan AAA+ rating which was “verifiable data”, all I get is deadly silence.

Here are the facts on Kosovo-Metohija

1.) Since Vucic has been in power, only two countries have recognized Kosovo-Metohija as an independent state.
2.) Serbia has on its side the largest country in the world and the two most populated countries.
4.) NATO powers have occupied Kosovo-Metohija for many years and Serbia has not had control over its province since 1999. Serbia has not challenged that, and yet there is still enormous amounts of pressure to get Serbia to agree to its own capitulation. Why? Why is Serbia's recognition of such significance to this whole project if it already can't control most parts of Kosovo-Metohija?
5.) The KLA have unsuccessfully tried to steal more Serbian property in the past year (Trepca, Brezovica and Gazivoda), but foreign investors will not buy it from the KLA because in business, property rights are eternal. And they know who it really belongs to.
6. The Association of Serb Municipalities give the Serb community de-facto separation from Pristina and allow for Serbia to directly finance the economies of these municipalities. This the KLA as agreed to and Kurti has been trying to start a civil war ever since.
7.) This year over 100,000 Albanians- somewhere around 5% of the population of Kosovo-Metohija, took desperate measures to leave because the KLA have ruined their living standards.

^^^For these reasons, the status quo suits Serbia just fine. Kosovo-Metohija does not function in Serbia, but is not a country either.

8).Keep dreaming...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 19 October 2015 23:32)

Yes we do and sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians.

Well there is amazingly a voice of reason coming from the dark shallow depths of delusion and self-lying... amazingly again from the same institution that published the infamous 'Memorandum' on Kosova back in the 80s which led to catastrophes of 90s in the Balkans. But Serbs have always believed in lies and myths and weird thing is they can't do live without them.

Quite the show coming from Belgrade these days. After securing more institutional guarantees over Kosovo than Serbia has had in more than a decade, SANU the ever-present organization of gloom and doom for everything Serbian says the game is up, and Toma plays right into it. Truth is, no one side controls Kosovo; not Belgrade, not Pristina, not even the US. If anyone or anything controls Kosovo, it's a small handful of individuals, Albanian and Serbian, who barely conceal their links to organized crime and political corruption. But of course if one measures control in absolutes, both SANU and Vetevendosje believe Kosovo is out of the hands of its "rightful" owners.

"Ari also many Serbs are leaving Serbia my roommates two sisters just left for Germany as Doctors this is not just Kosovo problem but Balkan problem."
(Bilbao, 20 October 2015 00:13)

But I think they'll already have a job there, and I don't think they go as fake asylum seekers, like the majority of their Kosovo Albanian Balkan fellows

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 11:45)

Yes I’m back on Serbian based media site unlike you who can’t even find an Albanian…opps I forgot that Albanians are still struggling with the concept of electricity let alone the internet.
First of all Serbia does not rely on so called remittances laddie. It has been borrowing heavily unlike Kosova. The only funding Serbia receives from the EU is to pay the politicians to sing the praises of the EU.
I’ve been to both Albania and Kosovo and both are dumps too. I strongly suggest you go there instead of writing nonsense.

For the last 16 years the only people that have run Kosovo has been the EU and its rules are reinforced by non-Albanian military or police. For the Albos that actually believe that Kosovo lives of so called collected taxes or makes laws or patrols it’s so called borders are living in lal lal land. It’s like Kosovo is some kind of wonderland where cash springs forth from mountain springs, but you have to wonder why are Albos leaving that paradise called Kosova if that was the case? If that were true, these trolls Albos would not be posting.

It's just a reality. Do you know who is this person?? And hoe much he knows about?? This person is the head of SANU that means he knows more then a president PM and all GOVNT.. It is not surprising - remember Borisav Jovic - this person could not die before he admitteed and regrets.
This is as far you Serbs you can go I am afraid..

He is just expressing an opinion shared by the vast majority of Serbs. Serbs say Kosovo is independent. 63% according to b92 and ipsos. His statement is not special or unique but serbias. Its also vucic and dacic posiitions as they signed Brussels.

During that interview, beside his statement about Kosovo, Kostic also said that an alliance with Russia was "an artificial alternative" for Serbia, and that the country "should enter, while vomiting, this paradise with the European Union"

That would be closely followed by a headline saying "Fat Man Drowns In His Own Vomit".

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 13:11)

No Serbia is not doing good, but its potential is far, far greater than any of the other former Yugoslav states. I been to all of them.

It is hard to imagine that in countries who are pretending to be cradles of free speech and democracy someting like this posible. Please, corect me if I am wrong,but it is imposible that generalo menagar of Smitsonian institut ever said that United States of America needs to find a way to return Texas and California to Mexico becouse spanish lenguige is dominant in this states... Or, looking 10 years in future alowing Hawai to organize referendum to become part of PRC( Public Republic China)...

I agree with EVERYBODY, just keep them checks and all the free stuff coming and rolling. Y'all hear?
P.S. God bless you!

* "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ... Kosova aka Kosovastan"

Let's face the facts already :

1. All of Kosovo will be under same law and Constitution of Kosovo ( which is in direct contradiction with Serbian) - So when Vucic/Dacic signed it in Brussels they broke it.

2. Chapter 35 and Brussels agreement and future agreements are there to save face and let down Serbs from Kosovo down easy - Kinda like you do with the crazy girlfriend.

3. What is Serbias solution for Kosovo a) Dacic says partition which EU does not want as there goes Bosnia and Macedonia which will go well for Serbs and Albanians but not the rest.
b) Vucic has not put any plan.
c) If Serbia was serious to have Kosovo as a part of Serbia right after the war would make Albanian official Language and gave Kosovo Veto over its territory etc etc but they want Kosovo without the people and never had a sound solution for people there.
Now is ball in Albanins said to give rights to Serbs they wanted in Yugoslavia.

Time will tell but as of today Serbia has no control of Kosvo and North is still under NATO and not possible for them to cut off ( no man's land will be closed with chapter 35).

North has 45K residents and with Borders closing they have no choice but to corporates.

What will Serbia say when Kosovo joins UEFA which is European organisation? Gibraltar joined so will Kosovo!

Oh dont forget point 14 in Brussels agreement says in path to EU and no Province has ever joined EU its countries that join EU!!!

"Oh dont forget point 14 in Brussels agreement says in path to EU and no Province has ever joined EU its countries that join EU!!!"
(Bilbao, 19 October 2015 17:02)

Yes, it's countries that joined EU, without the land areas which are disputed and governed by unrecognized authorities. Remember Cyprus?

^^^For these reasons, the status quo suits Serbia just fine. Kosovo-Metohija does not function in Serbia, but is not a country either.
(Ari Gold, 19 October 2015 18:40

8).Keep dreaming...

I see you're still making up your own realities and then using them as facts to base your opinions on Brian. You are, if anything, persistent in your delusions.

If that were true, these trolls Albos would not be posting.
(sj, 20 October 2015 12:59)

I totally agree.... If X were to be true, there trolls Albos, Serbs, etc would not be posting :)
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sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians.
(sj, 20 October 2015 09:41)

Oh, that's great actually. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of not being run by Serbia (EU, Yankees, etc, etc... all is fine for Kosovo). It's so good that Kosovo has the CE of B92 forums sj thinking day and night about Kosovo's wellbeing...

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

It seems that some wise people in Serbia do not like hiding their faces behind the pinky finger.
Kostic looks like he is one of them.
One day they will be majority and they will not be ashamed to accept the reality.And only then we,Albanians,will call serbs a "good neighbors" of ours....lol
Dean the Great.

"Kostic added he "would not talk about whether he is a patriot," and "stressed he could have left Serbia 20 times, for a lot of money" - but decided to stay "with his children and grandchildren."

Which makes him different to the many Serbian 'patriots' and 'nationalist' (may they be Serbs or proud Kosovarians) who post their comments here from Australia, the USA or various EU states.


"Nikolic urged SANU to declare itself on Kostic's stance, and whether after such a statement he can remain president of the Academy."

Well, there have been more controversial statements be the SANU which didn't have any consequences. Anyone remember the infamous 'SANU memorandum'?

"Yes we do and sadly for you Kosovo is still not a country. You guys should visit your Kosova and see for yourself. Its financed and run by the EU not by Albanians."

oh dear, back again? what country in the Balkans in 'financed' by itself? Serbia? Serbia relies on remittance, just like Kosovo. Never mind Serbia, Greece, an EU member relies on the EU for its financing. lets face it, all of the Balkans rely on outsiders for their survival

The reaction of the president of Serbia Mr. Nikolic on the statement of the president of SANU about Kosovo reminds me the reactions of the dictatorial president of North Korea Kim Jong Una.
Where is the right of thought and personal expression in Serbia?!!!

Wonder how many Serbs have had heart attacks.

Yes, it's countries that joined EU, without the land areas which are disputed and governed by unrecognized authorities. Remember Cyprus?
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 October 2015 21:57)

Good point however not the same thing Eu says they dont want another Cyprus and lets face it no EU country recognises Turk area ( no country except Turkey).

(Ari Gold, 19 October 2015 18:40)

1) Well let's face it 106 countries have recognised Kosovo so far numbers will be smaller as the fact some for own reasons some for geopolitical reasons will not do so.
But since Vucic Took office Kosovo joined Olympic comity and will join UNESCO, So will Councill of Europe and UEFA lets give it time.

Let's wait till May next year and see true results after UNESCO, after UEFA, Councill of Europe and Chapter 35 opens.

My opinion why EU wants Serbia to make it in writing is that they want this to be closed and no change in other borders. Kurti on the other side is an idiot Serbs should rule their area as long as its within Kosvo constitution, and they should get money direct if it comes for them only be it from Serbia, Russia, or even say you personally you want to send money to them direct you should without Albanians taking a cut nothing wrong with that.

Ari also many Serbs are leaving Serbia my roommates two sisters just left for Germany as Doctors this is not just Kosovo problem but Balkan problem.

Nikolic wants the guy to lose his job because he said something that confronts his beliefs. I've said it before and I'll say it again. As bad as Kosovo's political elite is they still come out much brighter then Serbia's.
Nikolic is a buffoon.

This guy insults moderate Serbs every time he speaks. Pure comedy.

The reaction of the president of Serbia Mr. Nikolic on the statement of the president of SANU about Kosovo reminds me the reactions of the dictatorial president of North Korea Kim Jong Una.
Where is the right of thought and personal expression in Serbia?!!!
(Notorious, 19 October 2015 17:14)

You only have the right to get involved in political discourse in Serbia if you're the head of the Serbian church. Otherwise, the President says you must shut up if you're the head of any other institution.Unless of course you say what he tells you to say. So one day Serbia behaves as if it is Iran, ruled by Ayatollah Amfilohje and mullah Irenjej. The next day it behaves like North Korea, ruled by the Almighty marvelous leader, Nikolic Jong Un.

This guy is speaking the truth, reality cannot be denied for too long.
I have yet to hear of a plan as to how are we going to get Kosovo back.
War seems out of the question, and I dont see many serbs going to fight there other than crazy ultras.
Suppose we convinced them to join Serbia voluntarily, that would involve as a minimum Albanian as an official language, 1/3 of the parliament will be Albanian with veto power, the country will be deadlocked for ever with political wranglings.
Furthermore, overtime, their population would increase more than Serbia's and in all probability will be the majority mid term, so the fate of Kosovo might befall over all Serbia and Serbs be minority in their own country.
I always maintained that if we had smart politicians we should recognize Kosovo against some economic concessions from EU, but nationalist ideologies dont die so easily. Kosovo is lost and it is better for Serbia so, why our politicians cant see it, it baffles me.

As for the statement itself, what has he actually that needs defending? He has said was it plainly obvious, Serbia does not run Kosovo. It has not run it for 16 years and it will not run it again. The best Serbia can achieve, is a degree of influence, that is the maximum it can hope for. Running it, meaning making its laws, collecting taxes, patrolling its borders etc, that day has gone and it has been consigned to the dust bins of history. sj and Ari Gold can still navigate holy Kosmet on Google maps, to get that feeling of being in charge again

oh no for sj, Serbia is doing really, pretty soon it will have enough reserves to buy Greece. as for Kosovo and Albania, I agree with you, they are dumps, so is the heavenly land however, it is the reason you live as far away from it as possible.

I don't know sj, Slovenia & Croatia were richer than Serbia when they were all together in Yugoslavia and they are richer now still.

(j, 22 October 2015 13:21)

People like you that have read something somewhere think you know it all. Sadly, you have no idea, you have been nowhere and seen nothing. You’re an internet troll that thinks you have it all at your fingertips.
I have been to Serbia in the last month or so and I know that it is in a poor state, but people like you tell me that Croatia and Slovenia are richer I then ask the question, how? Their biggest income earner is tourism, but it only last 3 months of the year. When I ask where does the rest of that income come from? All I get is “verifiable data” crap.
I then remind them of the rating agencies giving the toxic loan AAA+ rating which was “verifiable data”, all I get is deadly silence.

icj1, 20 October 2015 14:50)


I totally agree.... If X were to be true, there trolls Albos, Serbs, etc would not be posting :)
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The babbling AI is one of those trolls.


Oh, that's great actually. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of not being run by Serbia (EU, Yankees, etc, etc... all is fine for Kosovo). It's so good that Kosovo has the CE of B92 forums sj thinking day and night about Kosovo's wellbeing...

Which sj are you talking about? is it the first, second or third person sj? Or is it another sj which speaks to you from your head?

P.S. AI = Albanians Idiot

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(Niko, 20 October 2015 22:07)

On the issue of Serbia I suggest you read my comments again where I have said that Serbia is in a bad state but its potential is far far better than any other in that region..

(Nikolle, 20 October 2015 14:24)

They were richer when in Yugoslavia but not now my little friend. Go and have a look for yourself. Don’t look up some website and look at the PPP of these countries but go and talk to people that live there. Slovenes openly state that they are unhappy today and that they lived much better in Yugoslavia. Even Croats are making the same noises.
These two countries live off tourism and that is 3 months of the year i.e June, July and August so what do they do for the rest? If the EU did not supplement their budgets they would be poorer than Albania.
Please note the refugees don’t want to stay in Croatia or Slovenia.

(Nikolle, 21 October 2015 13:30)

What verifiable data? I’ve seen data in official publications that is pure rubbish. The world bank is no better than the CIA World fact book or IMF – these are all controlled by the US. ? Bullshit is bullshit mate.

Its like the US economic recovery. Since 2008 month after month you read and hear how the US is recovering – its all crap. Then the fact that China has overtaken the US as No1 economy. In what western publication/site have you seen this stated? Not one, but like it or not it has happened. Maybe by the year 4052 they will finally admit it.

Now tell me how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth? What productions do they have? Slight of hand?

No wonder they led you around by your nose.

Now tell me how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth? What productions do they have? Slight of hand?

No wonder they led you around by your nose.
(sj, 21 October 2015 14:18)

Well, comes to question the GDP per capita numbers that are produced by the IMF and others. I was recently in both Belgrade and Athens, and let me tell you, Athens looked like a war zone in some areas with slums and people sleeping on the streets everywhere. You cannot say the same about Belgrade. Now look at the GDP per Capita numbers, Greece at over $25 thousand, Serbia around $13 thousand. The only possible explanation is the complete eradication of the middle class. As well, the US posts unemployment figures of 5-6 %; over 95 Million American citizens are on food stamps or have dropped out of the employment pool. The real unemployment rate is closer to 15% is not higher.

If you think Athens is bad, try going to work in Los Angeles, USA you can't! Most of downtown LA businesses have shut down or moved. Many business flights are going to the Orange County airport to avoid the LA international airport. The American media especially CNN has stolen pages off Nazi Propaganda minister Goebbels and the American people are finally getting it as the polls suggest with Donald Trump leading in the Republican race.

(just the facts, 21 October 2015 14:44)

I feel sorry for you poor dumb people for two reasons. Firstly, power is now moving from Washington to Moscow and Beijing – look at Syria where the Russians are doing things with impunity. In the South east Asia region the US wants to challenge China’s claim to a few coral islands and their “strongest ally” Australia, and it has announced that they are not taking part in any sea patrols with the US.
Secondly, Turkey has been on the list for 30 years so far and it still not in the EU. Do you think that the EU will let Kosovo in so that Albanians can leave? Germany will return thousands from Kosovo to cope with the current influx of people from Syria.
The EU grab for land is like Mr Creosote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXH_12QWWg8
But its all too late LOL.

Notice how quickly they pass through Serbia too, don't know what caused the hiatus but I see things have not changed since you came back, still "do not trust verifiable data, trust what I tell you".
Missed the amusement.
(a New day, 21 October 2015

Verifiable data eh? Prior to the GFC in 2008, I recall that the western rating agencies gave all toxic loans the AAA+ rating and look what happened there. I could sell people like you land on Alpha Centruri and you would walk away feeling you got a good deal LOl.
However, I see you have not answered the question “how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth?

Please note the refugees don’t want to stay in Croatia or Slovenia.
(sj, 21 October 2015 12:48
Notice how quickly they pass through Serbia too, don't know what caused the hiatus but I see things have not changed since you came back, still "do not trust verifiable data, trust what I tell you".
Missed the amusement.

No Serbia is not doing good, but its potential is far, far greater than any of the other former Yugoslav states. I been to all of them.
(sj, 20 October 2015 13:32)
True, but alas that "potential" will never see reality, not as long as Serbia wants to bury its head in the sand and think that they can have it all. Kosovo is lost to Serbia and been that way for 15 years, and it is being sponsored by the very club Serbia wants to join. Note the EU is to sign pre-ascension agreement with Kosovo next week. How many decades will Serbia be stuck in chapter 35?

(gregovik, 21 October 2015 17:05)

I spent two week in Athens in August and stayed in Omonia which is very close to the Greek Parliament and you are correct that large sections of Athens does look like a war zone. I also went to inland Greece and was horrified to see the number of towns whose businesses are just hanging on.
The problem with numbers and statistics is that you can manipulate them to suit any purpose.
The US level of unemployment is well above 15% and that is something even respected US academics agree. Even your figure of 95 million living off food stamps would tell you that 15% does not sound right.
Also, electing Trump will not help the US. The US is too far gone to pull itself out of the financial quagmire. It will owe 20 trillion by December 2015 and it has already signed up for its next trillion dollars for 2016.
Trump can do nothing. He is only playing to the audience to get elected.

@sj
Albanians are leaving Kosovo for the same reason Serbs in south Serbia (Presevo,Bujanovac) are leaving South Serbia: economic reasons.
Kosovo's politicians may be incompetent, but so are Serbia's. From your comments it sounds like Serbia is the paradise on earth.
What's the common denominator in Balkans are corrupt politicians using national issues as scapegoat for their own failures trying to find guilty parties at traditional "enemies" instead of their own policies.
Language aside, there is no social difference if you are in Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Montenegro or Macedonia. The official"party"line is that its neighbors fault why we are poor and miserable, but somehow media thirsty politicians are our solution or saviors.

what on earth are you on about? talk people there? what i tell is is verifiable by data, what you tell me is hearsay. Croatia and Slovenia are richer than Serbia. This is not my claim, this is the claim of the world bank and UN figures. go argue with them if you thin they're wrong. talk to people on the grounds (!) what a stupid comment

Verifiable data eh? Prior to the GFC in 2008, I recall that the western rating agencies gave all toxic loans the AAA+ rating and look what happened there. I could sell people like you land on Alpha Centruri and you would walk away feeling you got a good deal LOl.
However, I see you have not answered the question “how does Slovenia and Croatia maintain this wealth?
(sj, 22 October 2015 09:06)

The question you should ask is how Serbia keeps managing to maintain its poverty?

Also the very fact that you have this illusion of grandeur about your own intelligence proves the opposite. Every fool I've met in my life thought he was super smart and they could sell people anything. All they could sell was, tons of illusion to their own mind. Don't flatter yourself. I have a feeling the next Einstein is not posting on B92; accept reality and join the rest of the mere mortals.