Dacic: Requests from draft platform on Kosovo unacceptable

So many things is "unacceptable" to Serbia, maybe it is time everyone else incorporates the word into their language.
Visa liberalization is unacceptable.
Loans to Serbia is unacceptable.
Flow of immigrants from Serbia to the EU is unacceptable.
The opening of any other chapter before the closure of 35 is unacceptable.
The thing is nothing is new and Dacic acts like it is a surprise, Serbia is the one that has been daily insisting on the opening of the chapters. Seeing that it has not been opened yet, then Serbia has been well aware of what was expected, if they know it now.
I think a lot of people are thinking Serbia in the EU--UNACCEPTABLE!

Oh dear, if I had a penny for every time a Serb politician has used the word "unacceptable" in a situation where nobody gave a damn about it, Buffet, Gates and Slim would be my valets.

Chapter 35 does finalize Kosovos deal with serbia, and if serbia can make it through chapter 35, then we all know for a fact that Serbian will enter EU without a doubt. Primary reason chapter 35 has been presented as the first of all, so EU knows whether serbia is ready to enter EU or not. EU will not waste their time on other dozens of chapter if chapter 35 doesnt go through. The only reason serbia became a candidate for EU to begin with is so Kosovo and Serbia go through heir separate ways. I know serbian officials really believed that Serbia meant more than that to EU. Unfortunately that is not the case, and this is the reality, you deal with Kosovo and get it done you do get a membership to EU.

Hahah some funny comments here?
What did you expect - you have up on all this in April 2013.

Get lost.

Kosovo was and will always belong to Serbia! Kosovo the Holy Land of Serbia! USA, England and Germany with the blessing of the Roman Catholic Empire occupied our Serbian Holy land! Serbia was never at war with Islam! Serbian people always democratic and never expelled any non Christian Eastern Orthodox people from the Balkans! The USA, England and Germany intent to murder and enslave all Christian Eastern Orthodoxy in Europe! The USA is the real root of this occupation, Satan so determined to torture and murder Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavs in the whole world! We Serbian people have all ready lost so much in the past twenty or so years and then the Roman Catholic Empire wants us all to continue to be humiliated on top of all the blood and tears spilled! If we Serbian people spit on our religion and fate and erase our sacred history only then will complete death come upon us all! USA represented by dirty Hilly Billy and England with goofy Toni queer Blair want Serbia to give up on Serbian Sacred and Holy Kosovo which will never happen and we Serbian people should not even look in the direction of those evil nations that are trying to drain our blood! Yes, Kosovo is occupied for now, OCCUPIED by Satan who is mortal and will not live for ever! The definition of death, not when heart stops, not when final breath taken, not when brain ceases activity, only when we spit on our religion and all memories of our Serbian existence are forgotten and lost in the darkness of infinity

Dacic called Kosovo Islamic State. So why does he care what happens in Islamic state? By the way why did he want ZSO for Serbs in the Islamic State :)

I thought church and state were separate in the "democratic" state of Serbia. Am I wrong in assuming this?

There is more religious harmony between the orthodox and catholic church since ~1000ad when they split.

Historically, based on historians, the land of Kosovo/a has been occupied by the locals (Illyrians/albanians)prior to the slavs (serbians) in the 6th/7th century AD. And for 500 plus years the territory was occupied by a common enemy the Ottoman Empire aka the Turks. So the Kingdom of Serbia lasted for 200 years approximately while albanians have been there for millenniums. The math just doesn't add up. Please do debate, but please keep it civil.

provokacija provokacija, where is our prime minister, withdraw all ambassadors from EU, expel them from Serba, PRVOKACIJA :-)

Albanians does not equal Illyrians.
(Jugoslavija, 13 October 2015 15:23)

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!

If we are going to start looking at countries through a historic lens, then we have a lot of change that should happen in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere for that matter to only mention a few. I'm sure those indigenous populations would prefer their land returned as well. Hey lets start independence movements in those lands based on your Kosovo precedence? lets see how it goes.
(City of Angels, 13 October 2015 15:48)

Of course, but not just the in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere, but also Russia, China and the entire Eastern hemisphere, as well...

Again !! why cant we get through our tikva what they want from us ?

The recognition will put a false believe into the Albanians that somehow this land is theirs and peace can grow. As time goes along no integration into Albania could ever happen as Serbian municipalities will never allow it and with KFOR there no war could errupt. If KFOR ever leave and battles errupt, well???

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started

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(Harold Wisemann, 12 October 2015 19:48)


Harold,
By your rhetoric you are obviously Serb so I understand where you are coming from, but let's get real. I don't believe Serbs are primitive enough or stupid enough to continue to teach their children to hate and carry inat for generations to come. The world has changed from 1389 and more unbiased information is available to our youth for the first time in history, though their parents and grand parents may still have the mentality of chetniks. if you try to preserve your archaic mindset, international society will ostracize Serbia and isolate them like animals in a zoo. I'm sure young Serbs will refuse put up with or continue to embrace their forefathers racist beliefs. Serbian youth have much too much to lose, particularly job opportunities, if they continue to follow the thinking of previous generations. Kosova is just another country that Serbia borders, the sooner Serbs accept this fact, the sooner they will benefit from the bounty the West has to offer.

let Serbia "wait for EU"....

The math just doesn't add up. Please do debate, but please keep it civil.
(kiko, 12 October 2015 18:16)
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It certainly doesn't, Albanians does not equal Illyrians.

@city of angels

The examples you propose don't compare with the argument that serbs continue to make. In most countries that you speak of the indigenous people that once lived there don't exist. In some cases a common cold killed more indigenous folks then expulsions or war.

My point was that Serbs just recently have gained control of the region and yet you claim it has been yours for centuries (dreams). If you subtract the 500+ years of ownership by our common enemy the ottomans, then serbs technically haven't had control of the area since the height of their dynastic era. And under Yugoslavia it was a province yes but all matters of government were overwhelmingly decided by albanian members at the province level prior to the wars of Milo the Great which many of you revere as some idol. Maybe not you in particular but many serbs do.

And if we dig further into the same time a century ago the atrocities committed by serbs is worse then the recent war in Kosovo/a. So this desire to exterminate people of different ethnicity must be in your DNA (generalization but relevant to nationalists and ultranationalist). I'll be honest you don't want albanians or kosovo/a because by 2030-50 at the rate they multiply they will outnumber you all in serbia proper. You'll see your next president, PM, commander of your armies be albanian and not to many of you can swallow seeing that prospectively. Its better to part ways.

Serbia has been handed the European dream on a very hot plate.
It's time to make a choice.
Something that Albania, Kosovo, Turkey and Macedonia, Montenegro will not get for another 50 years.

Tito gave the province autonomy. Now, is this about politics or preserving Serbian identity. With the municipalities deal it cements Serbias precense in Kosovo. Being a EU member and having that stream of monetary access gives them greater influence in the region. If they thought about this long term recognizing Kosovo (which is America's at the moment anyway) makes it another Bosnia which enthic divide. Massive influence can still be cast and no doubt the Serbs in Kosovo will live better than the Albanians in Kosovo. The recognition will put a false believe into the Albanians that somehow this land is theirs and peace can grow. As time goes along no integration into Albania could ever happen as Serbian municipalities will never allow it and with KFOR there no war could errupt. If KFOR ever leave and battles errupt, well???

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

I hope for peace. What do the rest of you hope for???

@Kiko....If we are going to start looking at countries through a historic lens, then we have a lot of change that should happen in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere for that matter to only mention a few. I'm sure those indigenous populations would prefer their land returned as well. Hey lets start independence movements in those lands based on your Kosovo precedence? lets see how it goes.

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started
Harold Not-so-wise-man

You don't know who you are dealing with, do you? You don't "F" with Albanians my friend, you just don't. You haven't learned your lesson yet, have you. Maybe it's just you - your fellow serbs probably have learned the lesson already.

I'm gonna try to help you. Stop dreaming because serbia woudn't dare to fight Albanians again, ever. Just because you had Russia's help in WWI you think you can do that again? How did that victory worked out for you? Oh yeah, I remember the albanian revenge in WW2. Than you decided again to "F" with albanians in 1999? How did that victory worked out for you? Oh yeah, I remember.

Even if you succeed to kill all albanians (one will always survive), that one albanian my friend will be your nightmare in the future. So i hope this helps you have a better understanding of the situation.

CONCLUSION: You just don't "F" with albanians
HOMEWORK: Study how to become friends with albanians

I hope for peace. What do the rest of you hope for???
(Harold Wisemann, 12 October 2015 19:48)
After reading your post and then rereading it, it is obvious that this statement is totally false. By reading your post it is obvious that YOU still carry the dream of an Albanian free Kosovo. Why since you live so far away, don't know but I can guarantee that short of a nuclear holocaust that destroys the civilized world, and we become a society similar to that in the movie Road Warrior, you will never see it.

Stop dreaming because serbia woudn't dare to fight Albanians again, ever. Just because you had Russia's help in WWI you think you can do that again?

(Shqiptar, 13 October 2015 18:56)

Russia's help in WWI? Never happened. In fact, Albania government allowed the Serbian army transit as they were attacked by the Germans, Austro-Hungarian and Bulgarians in a massive second offensive. Even though they were attacked by Albanian hordes but eventually made it to Corfu to fight another day.

Albanians does not equal Illyrians.
(Jugoslavija, 13 October 2015 15:23)

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!
(icj1, 14 October 2015 14:34)

I already made my point. Unfortunately, you have a problem making yours.
(jugoslavija, 14 October 2015 20:25)

Ah, OK... so that was your point. That Kosovo has not always been Albanian or Serbian :)

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!
(icj1, 14 October 2015 14:34

I already made my point. Unfortunately, you have a problem making yours.

This is how you arrest big bad Albanian KLA terrorists, so called "heroes" hiding in Albania when NATO bombs were dropping in Kosovo.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b43_1423947308

Kosovo was and will always belong to Serbia! Kosovo the Holy Land of Serbia! USA, England and Germany with the blessing of the Roman Catholic Empire occupied our Serbian Holy land! Serbia was never at war with Islam! Serbian people always democratic and never expelled any non Christian Eastern Orthodox people from the Balkans! The USA, England and Germany intent to murder and enslave all Christian Eastern Orthodoxy in Europe! The USA is the real root of this occupation, Satan so determined to torture and murder Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavs in the whole world! We Serbian people have all ready lost so much in the past twenty or so years and then the Roman Catholic Empire wants us all to continue to be humiliated on top of all the blood and tears spilled! If we Serbian people spit on our religion and fate and erase our sacred history only then will complete death come upon us all! USA represented by dirty Hilly Billy and England with goofy Toni queer Blair want Serbia to give up on Serbian Sacred and Holy Kosovo which will never happen and we Serbian people should not even look in the direction of those evil nations that are trying to drain our blood! Yes, Kosovo is occupied for now, OCCUPIED by Satan who is mortal and will not live for ever! The definition of death, not when heart stops, not when final breath taken, not when brain ceases activity, only when we spit on our religion and all memories of our Serbian existence are forgotten and lost in the darkness of infinity

Chapter 35 does finalize Kosovos deal with serbia, and if serbia can make it through chapter 35, then we all know for a fact that Serbian will enter EU without a doubt. Primary reason chapter 35 has been presented as the first of all, so EU knows whether serbia is ready to enter EU or not. EU will not waste their time on other dozens of chapter if chapter 35 doesnt go through. The only reason serbia became a candidate for EU to begin with is so Kosovo and Serbia go through heir separate ways. I know serbian officials really believed that Serbia meant more than that to EU. Unfortunately that is not the case, and this is the reality, you deal with Kosovo and get it done you do get a membership to EU.

So many things is "unacceptable" to Serbia, maybe it is time everyone else incorporates the word into their language.
Visa liberalization is unacceptable.
Loans to Serbia is unacceptable.
Flow of immigrants from Serbia to the EU is unacceptable.
The opening of any other chapter before the closure of 35 is unacceptable.
The thing is nothing is new and Dacic acts like it is a surprise, Serbia is the one that has been daily insisting on the opening of the chapters. Seeing that it has not been opened yet, then Serbia has been well aware of what was expected, if they know it now.
I think a lot of people are thinking Serbia in the EU--UNACCEPTABLE!

Oh dear, if I had a penny for every time a Serb politician has used the word "unacceptable" in a situation where nobody gave a damn about it, Buffet, Gates and Slim would be my valets.

Hahah some funny comments here?
What did you expect - you have up on all this in April 2013.

Get lost.

Again !! why cant we get through our tikva what they want from us ?

@city of angels

The examples you propose don't compare with the argument that serbs continue to make. In most countries that you speak of the indigenous people that once lived there don't exist. In some cases a common cold killed more indigenous folks then expulsions or war.

My point was that Serbs just recently have gained control of the region and yet you claim it has been yours for centuries (dreams). If you subtract the 500+ years of ownership by our common enemy the ottomans, then serbs technically haven't had control of the area since the height of their dynastic era. And under Yugoslavia it was a province yes but all matters of government were overwhelmingly decided by albanian members at the province level prior to the wars of Milo the Great which many of you revere as some idol. Maybe not you in particular but many serbs do.

And if we dig further into the same time a century ago the atrocities committed by serbs is worse then the recent war in Kosovo/a. So this desire to exterminate people of different ethnicity must be in your DNA (generalization but relevant to nationalists and ultranationalist). I'll be honest you don't want albanians or kosovo/a because by 2030-50 at the rate they multiply they will outnumber you all in serbia proper. You'll see your next president, PM, commander of your armies be albanian and not to many of you can swallow seeing that prospectively. Its better to part ways.

Serbia has been handed the European dream on a very hot plate.
It's time to make a choice.
Something that Albania, Kosovo, Turkey and Macedonia, Montenegro will not get for another 50 years.

Tito gave the province autonomy. Now, is this about politics or preserving Serbian identity. With the municipalities deal it cements Serbias precense in Kosovo. Being a EU member and having that stream of monetary access gives them greater influence in the region. If they thought about this long term recognizing Kosovo (which is America's at the moment anyway) makes it another Bosnia which enthic divide. Massive influence can still be cast and no doubt the Serbs in Kosovo will live better than the Albanians in Kosovo. The recognition will put a false believe into the Albanians that somehow this land is theirs and peace can grow. As time goes along no integration into Albania could ever happen as Serbian municipalities will never allow it and with KFOR there no war could errupt. If KFOR ever leave and battles errupt, well???

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

I hope for peace. What do the rest of you hope for???

The recognition will put a false believe into the Albanians that somehow this land is theirs and peace can grow. As time goes along no integration into Albania could ever happen as Serbian municipalities will never allow it and with KFOR there no war could errupt. If KFOR ever leave and battles errupt, well???

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started

[link]

(Harold Wisemann, 12 October 2015 19:48)


Harold,
By your rhetoric you are obviously Serb so I understand where you are coming from, but let's get real. I don't believe Serbs are primitive enough or stupid enough to continue to teach their children to hate and carry inat for generations to come. The world has changed from 1389 and more unbiased information is available to our youth for the first time in history, though their parents and grand parents may still have the mentality of chetniks. if you try to preserve your archaic mindset, international society will ostracize Serbia and isolate them like animals in a zoo. I'm sure young Serbs will refuse put up with or continue to embrace their forefathers racist beliefs. Serbian youth have much too much to lose, particularly job opportunities, if they continue to follow the thinking of previous generations. Kosova is just another country that Serbia borders, the sooner Serbs accept this fact, the sooner they will benefit from the bounty the West has to offer.

provokacija provokacija, where is our prime minister, withdraw all ambassadors from EU, expel them from Serba, PRVOKACIJA :-)

I thought church and state were separate in the "democratic" state of Serbia. Am I wrong in assuming this?

There is more religious harmony between the orthodox and catholic church since ~1000ad when they split.

Historically, based on historians, the land of Kosovo/a has been occupied by the locals (Illyrians/albanians)prior to the slavs (serbians) in the 6th/7th century AD. And for 500 plus years the territory was occupied by a common enemy the Ottoman Empire aka the Turks. So the Kingdom of Serbia lasted for 200 years approximately while albanians have been there for millenniums. The math just doesn't add up. Please do debate, but please keep it civil.

let Serbia "wait for EU"....

Dacic called Kosovo Islamic State. So why does he care what happens in Islamic state? By the way why did he want ZSO for Serbs in the Islamic State :)

The math just doesn't add up. Please do debate, but please keep it civil.
(kiko, 12 October 2015 18:16)
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It certainly doesn't, Albanians does not equal Illyrians.

@Kiko....If we are going to start looking at countries through a historic lens, then we have a lot of change that should happen in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere for that matter to only mention a few. I'm sure those indigenous populations would prefer their land returned as well. Hey lets start independence movements in those lands based on your Kosovo precedence? lets see how it goes.

I am all the way in England but i do not think serbs will make a mistake this time. My opinion is they will finish what they started
Harold Not-so-wise-man

You don't know who you are dealing with, do you? You don't "F" with Albanians my friend, you just don't. You haven't learned your lesson yet, have you. Maybe it's just you - your fellow serbs probably have learned the lesson already.

I'm gonna try to help you. Stop dreaming because serbia woudn't dare to fight Albanians again, ever. Just because you had Russia's help in WWI you think you can do that again? How did that victory worked out for you? Oh yeah, I remember the albanian revenge in WW2. Than you decided again to "F" with albanians in 1999? How did that victory worked out for you? Oh yeah, I remember.

Even if you succeed to kill all albanians (one will always survive), that one albanian my friend will be your nightmare in the future. So i hope this helps you have a better understanding of the situation.

CONCLUSION: You just don't "F" with albanians
HOMEWORK: Study how to become friends with albanians

Stop dreaming because serbia woudn't dare to fight Albanians again, ever. Just because you had Russia's help in WWI you think you can do that again?

(Shqiptar, 13 October 2015 18:56)

Russia's help in WWI? Never happened. In fact, Albania government allowed the Serbian army transit as they were attacked by the Germans, Austro-Hungarian and Bulgarians in a massive second offensive. Even though they were attacked by Albanian hordes but eventually made it to Corfu to fight another day.

This is how you arrest big bad Albanian KLA terrorists, so called "heroes" hiding in Albania when NATO bombs were dropping in Kosovo.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b43_1423947308

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!
(icj1, 14 October 2015 14:34

I already made my point. Unfortunately, you have a problem making yours.

I hope for peace. What do the rest of you hope for???
(Harold Wisemann, 12 October 2015 19:48)
After reading your post and then rereading it, it is obvious that this statement is totally false. By reading your post it is obvious that YOU still carry the dream of an Albanian free Kosovo. Why since you live so far away, don't know but I can guarantee that short of a nuclear holocaust that destroys the civilized world, and we become a society similar to that in the movie Road Warrior, you will never see it.

If we are going to start looking at countries through a historic lens, then we have a lot of change that should happen in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere for that matter to only mention a few. I'm sure those indigenous populations would prefer their land returned as well. Hey lets start independence movements in those lands based on your Kosovo precedence? lets see how it goes.
(City of Angels, 13 October 2015 15:48)

Of course, but not just the in USA, Canada, Australia, the entire western hemisphere, but also Russia, China and the entire Eastern hemisphere, as well...

Albanians does not equal Illyrians.
(Jugoslavija, 13 October 2015 15:23)

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!

Albanians does not equal Illyrians.
(Jugoslavija, 13 October 2015 15:23)

Ok, let's say you are right... It still means that Kosovo has not always been Serbian and has not always been Albanian. So not sure what point you are trying to make!!!
(icj1, 14 October 2015 14:34)

I already made my point. Unfortunately, you have a problem making yours.
(jugoslavija, 14 October 2015 20:25)

Ah, OK... so that was your point. That Kosovo has not always been Albanian or Serbian :)