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Friday, 02.10.2015.

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Putin as "new decision-maker in U.S. war against IS"

Russian President Vladimir Putin "didn’t just start bombing Syria - he made himself a central player in the world’s struggle to clamp down on Islamic State."

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Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj
You don't seem to recognise that you are little more than a brainwashed, walking, talking inferiority complex.Stop spamming and being so obsessive about something you don't understand.Who's paying you to keep repeating yourself?

icj1

pre 8 godina

Thinking is the hardest work there is
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yup, totally agree... Which is why you're seldom seen doing it!
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you don't understand my links
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Well, it's a not a matter of understanding. As I told you already, the most patriotic of Serbs consider the American and British news organizations as evil, controlled by the US goverment, corporations, etc etc etc. So, unless you say that the most patriotic of Serbs are wrong and American and British news organizations are reliable, we can't rely on them.
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The whole world knows
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

I, for one, don't know it, so obviously your statement above is a lie.
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that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power...
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yeah, sure, sure... Now back to the point you try to divert from, you still did not epxlain which Leonidas we should believe: the one who said that the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009 or the other Leonidas who said 2011? And still none of these Leonidas has explained why there were rebeles against Assad in the first place for the US to train if Assad is so angelic!!!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

So, you are confirming what I said... Thx :)
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the problem is that it has not proven it.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Proven to whom? To you? lol Show me then where Russia has proven its gold reserves... :)
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Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Ok, so you were lying before when you said that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world". "top 5" and "largest" is not the same thing. So, thanks again for proving what I said earlier that your statement that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world" was a flat-out lie that you just made up out of thin air.

I understand though that you are trying to do some damage countrol by making different statements now because the lies you originally stated were exposed, but it's too late. Next time, check the facts BEFORE posting. Don't state as "facts" whatever you wish with the hope that your lies are not going to be caught and then try to fix them afterwards.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Your a joke, read some Economics books.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

Yup, I just read some economics books, including the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj (who thanks God returned to illuminate all of us) and found nowhere that the US debt cannot be serviced and be serviced at the same time lol
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I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

That's not what you said. You said "it cannot be serviced" not "it will not be serviced in the long term" or anything about long term sustainability. But I'm glad you finally understood the nonsense that you were writing earlier and wrote a more coherent statement now.

But still, even your new statement is not reliable, since those who actually lend money to the US and stand to loose real money if their analysis is wrong disagree with you. You loose nothing if your "analysis" is wrong which is why your "analysis" can be ignored.

P.S. CE = "Chief Economist"

too funny

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

[link]

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)
Well lets see just how should the US do that?
Open up the reserves so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can walk by and see, in which case you would claim that they were just gold painted lead bars.
or
they could release some "official" audit that you would just claim was manufactured,
or they could have some international committee come in and verify the holdings, again you would only claim that they were bribed by the US,
or better,
I could just come on here and say I am President Obama and I swear it is true,
would be just as reliable as digging up some statements from anyone on the internet who wants to make claims they cannot prove.
or
we could just say that the powers of the rest of the world accept the fact.

rote

pre 8 godina

masks off !!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-shouldnt-let-russia-fight-the-islamic-state/2015/10/05/ad77beda-6b6c-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

rote

pre 8 godina

Leonidas

You must be aware of what happened to the gold of some European states who trusted their it to the evil in pre-war period. The gold was accepted from the presidents as private persons but not from states that owned the gold. It was a fatal contract for the presidents and for the victim states. Rather soon Czech president Benesh and the Polish Sykorski “accidentally” died … Same was the fate of some other European monarchs …

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> [link]

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.
(Zoran, 5 October 2015 10:47) Zik so interesting not. In the 10th century even then you Serbs were run by the Bulgari Turks what is new. That the Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian%E2%80%93Bulgarian_battle_of_926 had to save your sorry asses. As for the writer of the pathetic drivel you quot is a Serb. Every one knows how truthful they are. Another interesting event happened 3 years before that Croatian army's totally devastated the Magyar Hun invasion.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

There is no Gold in Fort Knox

[link]/
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 17:11)

It's true they don’t have any more physical gold.They haven't had a public audit since 1953.That’s why they can only give Germany 5 tons of the 1,500 tons it’s holding. In fact,Germany asked for this delivery in 2013 and the Fed refused. Instead it said we will give you back 300 tons which is 20% of what you trusted us to keep for you over the next seven years.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Try reading some basic Economics courses, might help you understand if your IQ can handle it.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09) # Co

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/21212-has-the-federal-reserve-sold-the-gold-at-fort-knox

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol


Your a joke, read some Economics books. I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train
(icj1,

Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is either the reason why you don’t engage in it or you're probably unable to think because you don't understand my links in which case you should perhaps try a publication with a lower reading age.Even Western sources cannot hide any longer the fact the US was the instigator of the insurrection in Syria repeating the same pattern as she did in Libya and Ukraine.The whole world knows that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their neocon overloards.That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chief's "Wednesday" panties.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Most of the posts here are totally off the subject.

What has pointless debate about spurious theories about genetic origins of Croats got to do with the potential effectiveness of Putin's policy?

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(I suppose it could be said that in both cases, their lowly positions in relation to the West leave them having to do something to address their inferiority complexes!) ;-)

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 23:12)
--
Lenard, according to your very own Croatian FA Institute in Zagreb, they claim that "Croats are descendants of the Serbs and the genetic match of both peoples is nearly identical, with the difference that Serbs are the older of the two peoples and therefore, practically created the Croatian nation!"

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/07/zagreb-in-a-panic-scientifically-proven-that-croats-are-descendants-of-serbs-2687972.html

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.
(rote, 4 October 2015 10:46)

Guess who stopped taking his medications.

rote

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia

There were no nations before 17-18 centuries. Most of them were formed in 19-20 only. So be careful with words Croats, Germans ect. This year a big international group of scientists fnished their genetic-linguistic research. According to it Slavs had a big Scandinavian component and Croat Y-DNA proves very well. Yet northern Russian also have a big share of the N1c1 that differs the Croats from other South Slavs. … http://haplogroup.narod.ru/russ.html

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice. I traced the Russian saints of 14-15 centuries and found out that all of them were Boyars first ! Boyar was a noble title one could not pass to his son. But I found also that the fathers and grandfathers of all Russian saints (including святые, were Boyars too.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.

Read how they explain words like Istanbul, California, Philadelphia, Cuba, Peru, Galicia, India, Moghuls, Megaleon Tartaria, Prussia, Borussia, Persia, Syria, Assyria, Bejijng and many others to see that they lie us all the time. No errors about the Germans or Turks from Orbini !

rote

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavija

So you too have an idea of this Dalmatian monk! Becoming interesting so here’s the original of his famous book edited only in Russia but forbidden by Vatican. It is part of what I am trying to popularize here. But people prefer their school textbooks to the evident facts. They got used to think that Jesus was a Jew, that Samaria, Israel, Palestine, Jerusalem, Jordan, Bethlehem, Judea were at the same small spot never marked on any old map, that western Europeans had a history of their own before 16 century ect. Serbs got used to think that Nemanovici were Serbs, Shqiptars think that Skanderbeg was a Shqiptar, Croats shoot films “Kings of Croatia” ect. Some believe that Mamelukes who ruled the ME for 600 years were slaves, others thing that Turkic was official language of the Ottomans, that Samurais were Japanese, that German nation existed before 18 century, that Swedish and German languages weren’t formed in 19 century, that Alexander the Great and Tamerlane were two different men, that some ancient Rome existed in Italy ect. But Mauro Orbini was one of the many who did not think so before the Reformation bacchanalia started. Please explain at least how could Stefan Silny be a Serb if Urosh i.e. Russian was part of his family name while Raska meant little Russia?

http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/orbini.html
http://chronologia.org/en/nch5_1_empire/index.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_4.html
http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/index.html

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, IT CANNOT BE SERVICED at the current interest rates

The only reason THE US IS ABLE TO SERVICE ITS DEBT is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)
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Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
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Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That is a flat-out lie; you just made it up out of thin air. Do you even attempt to check facts before you come up with such trash?! Russia is nowhere close to having the largest Gold reserves in the world. Even countries like France or Italy have much larger gold reserves than Russia. Sorry bro, we can't change the facts to make you happy.
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It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:28)

I did not mention any "Illyrian" stuff!!! It looks like you are the one that believes in such tales since you brought it up :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1,
Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

Oh dear, the sources that you provided are all American and British news sources not very different from Fox News :) Those are evil news organizations according to the most patriotic of Serbs. How can I rely on them?!
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The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

I have no doubt that according to a certain Leonidas above that's how the Syrian crisis unfolded lol. However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:53)

Yup, that's another good one... anobody else wants to compete in with Leonidas in creativity haha

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. (rote, 3 October 2015 11:06)

Interesting that "Mavro" Orbini first name means "Black" in Greek, similar to Black George or Karadordevic. Orbini was Pan Slavic and his work included a translation of the 12th-century Serbian Monk The Chronicle of Priest Duklianin. However, his writing contained errors in labeling Germans and Turkic people as Slavs, his theory of Scandanavian origin of Croats is suspect at best.

Many of his ideas were further developed by Josip Juraj Strossmayer, another Croat who many consider the main proponent of Pan-Slavism and the creation of the Kingdom Of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. His main opposition was Nikola Pasic, foreign minister of Serbia who wanted a Serbian unitary state after WWI.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj1,

Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-secretly-backed-syrian-opposition-groups-cables-released-by-wikileaks-show/2011/04/14/AF1p9hwD_story.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/middleeast/cia-said-to-aid-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-stratfor-emails-us-government-sent-blackwater-veteran-to-fight-with-rebels-in-libya-and-syria-2012-3?IR=T
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10283758/First-Syria-rebels-armed-and-trained-by-CIA-on-way-to-battlefield.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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So you can't count as well, your name certainly matches your IQ.

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, it cannot be serviced at the current interest rates let alone if rates start going up. Its mathematically impossible. Do you know how the US services it's debt? It prints money from the US Bank reserve which independent from the US government. The only reason the US is able to service it's debt is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.

Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world. It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:31)

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

You know that most often I don’t like your comments because you stop to be reasonable when it comes to the Serbs. But despite the tune of your current comment I gave my rare LIKE this time. Because I agree most things you say and besides seems that you are the only one on this forum who knows not only about Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. Maybe you are interested only in those whom you suspect to be Croats. In fact only Orbini was a Croat but the history he describes is in a great part their history of the Rurikovici dynasty. They appointed members of their family as governors of the seized territories. But today no one can say for sure what was their real history as many books were stolen to Vatican from Constantinople in 1448 by Pope Nicolas V and from Moscow in 1612. Yet mentally it was a Russian dynasty with Byzantine routes. But if you find pictures of Ivan Danilovic Kalita, Juri Danilovic, Dmitry Donskoy, Ivan III , Vasily II ect. you will find that they looked rather like Jews or Greeks. Yet you are right that their dominating happlogroups were R1a1 and N1c1. This dynasty was split in 1453 but they always ruled Constantinople since 1261 when they replaced the Armenian Angel dynasty here. All the Sultans and Balkan "kings" and "princes" also belonged to the dynasty. Firts 5 Habsburgs ( Нав город) were Rurikovici too.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.

Hollywood corporations needed some action movie themes to entertain the American public so they thought that creating Al Qaeda and produce movies about it would make them rich :)

If you don't believe the above, let me know and I can create a Wikipedia page or some other internet link that says the above - that's all the evidence that several contributors of these forums need!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers.
(The Count of Kosova, 2 October 2015 21:07)

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt. Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.

They don't call you the "Count of Kosovo" for nothing. You should also learn how to spell as well.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?
(rote, 2 October 2015 20:28) Croatians are not Slavic they Haplogroup I well over 80% %http://www.arslanmb.org/ArmenianDNAProject/Haplogroup-I.png Slavs are R1A you know that. Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I. That some moved north after the waiting out the last Ice Age in Croatia/Bosnia. You can thank Haplo I for establishing first nations in "Russia". Rurik ruling over Slavs and civilizing you. Just like over the "Serbs". The "Serbs" have 23% H I the most and then 18% R1A but they are hodgepodge of Haplogroups. I could tell you more but your little world can't take it.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers. Putin is desperate to have Western sanctions lifted, that is why he is pretending to join the war against ISIS. This is nothing but an attempt to curry favor in the West. In fact, Russia is taking this rather transparent opportunity to prop up the doomed Assad regime. Russian planes have thus far only attacked rebel groups that are fighting against ISIS. Meanwhile, Russia is wasting money it can't spare by feigning a war against ISIS in hopes of convincing some in the EU to change their position on sanctions against Russia, in hopes of weakening the Alliance. The only way that a cornered Putin can remove his name from the West's shit list is to "accidentally" bomb the Assad palace and compound. This must be followed by returning Crimea to its rightful owners as well as withdrawing Russian troops and support from Eastern Ukraine. Anything less will only prolong the suffering of the Russian people. However, I do not believe Putin is clever enough or sane enough to make the correct decision.

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one [link] it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 11:33)

The so-called Free Syrian army is Al Qaeda all but in name.I am sure the Croatian Authorities must've known such facts.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579547183675484314
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/isis-fighting-alongside-free-syrian-army-al-qaida/

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments. The new recruits were trained by the CIA in Turkey, then allocated to the FSA and used to fight the Syrian government along with al-Qaeda forces.Therefore,what Croatia has been doing is actively supporting and arming the ISIS killers.Are Croatians proud of their government's involvement on the side of ISIS? You most certainly are.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin is probably the only sensible outside player in the Syrian war and he’s running rings around the inept Western leaders-Obama, Cameron, Merkel,Hollande who are all revealing themselves to be third-raters in comparison.Putin and Iran have always said they would support Assad.He is the only leader that is stopping ISIL the child killing rapists from controlling all of Syria and stopping 20 million refugees coming to Europe.Obama is a delusional clown in cloud cuckoo land because he seems to think that some lovely democracy will flourish once they allow ISIL to remove Assad.Let me tell Obama about the type of democracy he has forced on countries and the policies he has actively propagated. Libya under Gaddafi - most well off country in Africa with free electricity, water and education, Iraq under Hussein - very rich, free electricity and water and free schooling, Housing etc.Since Obama brought them “democracy” Iraq and Libya have become lovely countries where everyone is a surgeon and can amputate your hands as a cure all for everything.
The US and its allies know full well that it's a choice between Assad and Islamists. But some US allies (namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel) actually prefer ISIS and Al Qaeda over a secular Syrian regime, so the US feels compelled to insist that "Assad must go" even though they know such a policy cannot jive with the "war on terror."

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22906965 it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Stop pussyfooting with the terrorist Putin and the Assad murderer. Time to arm the free Syrian army with more advance weaponry. Syrian officers and troops of conscious who wouldn't take orders from a criminal to murder civilians. That are protecting civilians from the deranged despot murderer. They control the southern Syrian provinces protecting civilians from Isis and murdering despot Assad. Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals air base it is using and the port. Put a end to the criminals travesty that is going on much to long.

rote

pre 8 godina

Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals

(Lenard, 2 October 2015 10:20)

Lenard seems that you forgot your brains at home again. What Croatia you are talking about ? Forget about it when you talk about things outside the Balkans. Because it’s not a subject of the international relations. It’s an object of such relations like the buffet in your home. Another crazy idea is to supply them with surface-to-air missiles as no one knows who will obtain them in a year when Airbuses start to fall down. Also if only a Russian plane is hit down with a Croatian missile Russia will come to you soon enough. So calm down and watch the developments you cannot influence. To say nothing that the Syrian Free Amy is a same kind terroristic organization as ISIL.

rote

pre 8 godina

Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals

(Lenard, 2 October 2015 10:20)

Lenard seems that you forgot your brains at home again. What Croatia you are talking about ? Forget about it when you talk about things outside the Balkans. Because it’s not a subject of the international relations. It’s an object of such relations like the buffet in your home. Another crazy idea is to supply them with surface-to-air missiles as no one knows who will obtain them in a year when Airbuses start to fall down. Also if only a Russian plane is hit down with a Croatian missile Russia will come to you soon enough. So calm down and watch the developments you cannot influence. To say nothing that the Syrian Free Amy is a same kind terroristic organization as ISIL.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin is probably the only sensible outside player in the Syrian war and he’s running rings around the inept Western leaders-Obama, Cameron, Merkel,Hollande who are all revealing themselves to be third-raters in comparison.Putin and Iran have always said they would support Assad.He is the only leader that is stopping ISIL the child killing rapists from controlling all of Syria and stopping 20 million refugees coming to Europe.Obama is a delusional clown in cloud cuckoo land because he seems to think that some lovely democracy will flourish once they allow ISIL to remove Assad.Let me tell Obama about the type of democracy he has forced on countries and the policies he has actively propagated. Libya under Gaddafi - most well off country in Africa with free electricity, water and education, Iraq under Hussein - very rich, free electricity and water and free schooling, Housing etc.Since Obama brought them “democracy” Iraq and Libya have become lovely countries where everyone is a surgeon and can amputate your hands as a cure all for everything.
The US and its allies know full well that it's a choice between Assad and Islamists. But some US allies (namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel) actually prefer ISIS and Al Qaeda over a secular Syrian regime, so the US feels compelled to insist that "Assad must go" even though they know such a policy cannot jive with the "war on terror."

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one [link] it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 11:33)

The so-called Free Syrian army is Al Qaeda all but in name.I am sure the Croatian Authorities must've known such facts.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579547183675484314
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/isis-fighting-alongside-free-syrian-army-al-qaida/

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments. The new recruits were trained by the CIA in Turkey, then allocated to the FSA and used to fight the Syrian government along with al-Qaeda forces.Therefore,what Croatia has been doing is actively supporting and arming the ISIS killers.Are Croatians proud of their government's involvement on the side of ISIS? You most certainly are.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers.
(The Count of Kosova, 2 October 2015 21:07)

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt. Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.

They don't call you the "Count of Kosovo" for nothing. You should also learn how to spell as well.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:31)

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj1,

Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-secretly-backed-syrian-opposition-groups-cables-released-by-wikileaks-show/2011/04/14/AF1p9hwD_story.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/middleeast/cia-said-to-aid-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-stratfor-emails-us-government-sent-blackwater-veteran-to-fight-with-rebels-in-libya-and-syria-2012-3?IR=T
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10283758/First-Syria-rebels-armed-and-trained-by-CIA-on-way-to-battlefield.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Stop pussyfooting with the terrorist Putin and the Assad murderer. Time to arm the free Syrian army with more advance weaponry. Syrian officers and troops of conscious who wouldn't take orders from a criminal to murder civilians. That are protecting civilians from the deranged despot murderer. They control the southern Syrian provinces protecting civilians from Isis and murdering despot Assad. Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals air base it is using and the port. Put a end to the criminals travesty that is going on much to long.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers. Putin is desperate to have Western sanctions lifted, that is why he is pretending to join the war against ISIS. This is nothing but an attempt to curry favor in the West. In fact, Russia is taking this rather transparent opportunity to prop up the doomed Assad regime. Russian planes have thus far only attacked rebel groups that are fighting against ISIS. Meanwhile, Russia is wasting money it can't spare by feigning a war against ISIS in hopes of convincing some in the EU to change their position on sanctions against Russia, in hopes of weakening the Alliance. The only way that a cornered Putin can remove his name from the West's shit list is to "accidentally" bomb the Assad palace and compound. This must be followed by returning Crimea to its rightful owners as well as withdrawing Russian troops and support from Eastern Ukraine. Anything less will only prolong the suffering of the Russian people. However, I do not believe Putin is clever enough or sane enough to make the correct decision.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. (rote, 3 October 2015 11:06)

Interesting that "Mavro" Orbini first name means "Black" in Greek, similar to Black George or Karadordevic. Orbini was Pan Slavic and his work included a translation of the 12th-century Serbian Monk The Chronicle of Priest Duklianin. However, his writing contained errors in labeling Germans and Turkic people as Slavs, his theory of Scandanavian origin of Croats is suspect at best.

Many of his ideas were further developed by Josip Juraj Strossmayer, another Croat who many consider the main proponent of Pan-Slavism and the creation of the Kingdom Of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. His main opposition was Nikola Pasic, foreign minister of Serbia who wanted a Serbian unitary state after WWI.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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So you can't count as well, your name certainly matches your IQ.

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, it cannot be serviced at the current interest rates let alone if rates start going up. Its mathematically impossible. Do you know how the US services it's debt? It prints money from the US Bank reserve which independent from the US government. The only reason the US is able to service it's debt is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.

Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world. It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

There is no Gold in Fort Knox

[link]/
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 17:11)

It's true they don’t have any more physical gold.They haven't had a public audit since 1953.That’s why they can only give Germany 5 tons of the 1,500 tons it’s holding. In fact,Germany asked for this delivery in 2013 and the Fed refused. Instead it said we will give you back 300 tons which is 20% of what you trusted us to keep for you over the next seven years.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22906965 it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09) # Co

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/21212-has-the-federal-reserve-sold-the-gold-at-fort-knox

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, IT CANNOT BE SERVICED at the current interest rates

The only reason THE US IS ABLE TO SERVICE ITS DEBT is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)
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Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
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Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That is a flat-out lie; you just made it up out of thin air. Do you even attempt to check facts before you come up with such trash?! Russia is nowhere close to having the largest Gold reserves in the world. Even countries like France or Italy have much larger gold reserves than Russia. Sorry bro, we can't change the facts to make you happy.
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It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:28)

I did not mention any "Illyrian" stuff!!! It looks like you are the one that believes in such tales since you brought it up :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:53)

Yup, that's another good one... anobody else wants to compete in with Leonidas in creativity haha

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 23:12)
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Lenard, according to your very own Croatian FA Institute in Zagreb, they claim that "Croats are descendants of the Serbs and the genetic match of both peoples is nearly identical, with the difference that Serbs are the older of the two peoples and therefore, practically created the Croatian nation!"

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/07/zagreb-in-a-panic-scientifically-proven-that-croats-are-descendants-of-serbs-2687972.html

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train
(icj1,

Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is either the reason why you don’t engage in it or you're probably unable to think because you don't understand my links in which case you should perhaps try a publication with a lower reading age.Even Western sources cannot hide any longer the fact the US was the instigator of the insurrection in Syria repeating the same pattern as she did in Libya and Ukraine.The whole world knows that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their neocon overloards.That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chief's "Wednesday" panties.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol


Your a joke, read some Economics books. I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Try reading some basic Economics courses, might help you understand if your IQ can handle it.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj
You don't seem to recognise that you are little more than a brainwashed, walking, talking inferiority complex.Stop spamming and being so obsessive about something you don't understand.Who's paying you to keep repeating yourself?

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?
(rote, 2 October 2015 20:28) Croatians are not Slavic they Haplogroup I well over 80% %http://www.arslanmb.org/ArmenianDNAProject/Haplogroup-I.png Slavs are R1A you know that. Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I. That some moved north after the waiting out the last Ice Age in Croatia/Bosnia. You can thank Haplo I for establishing first nations in "Russia". Rurik ruling over Slavs and civilizing you. Just like over the "Serbs". The "Serbs" have 23% H I the most and then 18% R1A but they are hodgepodge of Haplogroups. I could tell you more but your little world can't take it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.

Hollywood corporations needed some action movie themes to entertain the American public so they thought that creating Al Qaeda and produce movies about it would make them rich :)

If you don't believe the above, let me know and I can create a Wikipedia page or some other internet link that says the above - that's all the evidence that several contributors of these forums need!

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1,
Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

Oh dear, the sources that you provided are all American and British news sources not very different from Fox News :) Those are evil news organizations according to the most patriotic of Serbs. How can I rely on them?!
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The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

I have no doubt that according to a certain Leonidas above that's how the Syrian crisis unfolded lol. However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.
(rote, 4 October 2015 10:46)

Guess who stopped taking his medications.

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

You know that most often I don’t like your comments because you stop to be reasonable when it comes to the Serbs. But despite the tune of your current comment I gave my rare LIKE this time. Because I agree most things you say and besides seems that you are the only one on this forum who knows not only about Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. Maybe you are interested only in those whom you suspect to be Croats. In fact only Orbini was a Croat but the history he describes is in a great part their history of the Rurikovici dynasty. They appointed members of their family as governors of the seized territories. But today no one can say for sure what was their real history as many books were stolen to Vatican from Constantinople in 1448 by Pope Nicolas V and from Moscow in 1612. Yet mentally it was a Russian dynasty with Byzantine routes. But if you find pictures of Ivan Danilovic Kalita, Juri Danilovic, Dmitry Donskoy, Ivan III , Vasily II ect. you will find that they looked rather like Jews or Greeks. Yet you are right that their dominating happlogroups were R1a1 and N1c1. This dynasty was split in 1453 but they always ruled Constantinople since 1261 when they replaced the Armenian Angel dynasty here. All the Sultans and Balkan "kings" and "princes" also belonged to the dynasty. Firts 5 Habsburgs ( Нав город) were Rurikovici too.

rote

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavija

So you too have an idea of this Dalmatian monk! Becoming interesting so here’s the original of his famous book edited only in Russia but forbidden by Vatican. It is part of what I am trying to popularize here. But people prefer their school textbooks to the evident facts. They got used to think that Jesus was a Jew, that Samaria, Israel, Palestine, Jerusalem, Jordan, Bethlehem, Judea were at the same small spot never marked on any old map, that western Europeans had a history of their own before 16 century ect. Serbs got used to think that Nemanovici were Serbs, Shqiptars think that Skanderbeg was a Shqiptar, Croats shoot films “Kings of Croatia” ect. Some believe that Mamelukes who ruled the ME for 600 years were slaves, others thing that Turkic was official language of the Ottomans, that Samurais were Japanese, that German nation existed before 18 century, that Swedish and German languages weren’t formed in 19 century, that Alexander the Great and Tamerlane were two different men, that some ancient Rome existed in Italy ect. But Mauro Orbini was one of the many who did not think so before the Reformation bacchanalia started. Please explain at least how could Stefan Silny be a Serb if Urosh i.e. Russian was part of his family name while Raska meant little Russia?

http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/orbini.html
http://chronologia.org/en/nch5_1_empire/index.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_4.html
http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/index.html

rote

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia

There were no nations before 17-18 centuries. Most of them were formed in 19-20 only. So be careful with words Croats, Germans ect. This year a big international group of scientists fnished their genetic-linguistic research. According to it Slavs had a big Scandinavian component and Croat Y-DNA proves very well. Yet northern Russian also have a big share of the N1c1 that differs the Croats from other South Slavs. … http://haplogroup.narod.ru/russ.html

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice. I traced the Russian saints of 14-15 centuries and found out that all of them were Boyars first ! Boyar was a noble title one could not pass to his son. But I found also that the fathers and grandfathers of all Russian saints (including святые, were Boyars too.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.

Read how they explain words like Istanbul, California, Philadelphia, Cuba, Peru, Galicia, India, Moghuls, Megaleon Tartaria, Prussia, Borussia, Persia, Syria, Assyria, Bejijng and many others to see that they lie us all the time. No errors about the Germans or Turks from Orbini !

icj1

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

So, you are confirming what I said... Thx :)
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the problem is that it has not proven it.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Proven to whom? To you? lol Show me then where Russia has proven its gold reserves... :)
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Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Ok, so you were lying before when you said that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world". "top 5" and "largest" is not the same thing. So, thanks again for proving what I said earlier that your statement that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world" was a flat-out lie that you just made up out of thin air.

I understand though that you are trying to do some damage countrol by making different statements now because the lies you originally stated were exposed, but it's too late. Next time, check the facts BEFORE posting. Don't state as "facts" whatever you wish with the hope that your lies are not going to be caught and then try to fix them afterwards.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Most of the posts here are totally off the subject.

What has pointless debate about spurious theories about genetic origins of Croats got to do with the potential effectiveness of Putin's policy?

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(I suppose it could be said that in both cases, their lowly positions in relation to the West leave them having to do something to address their inferiority complexes!) ;-)

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> [link]

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.
(Zoran, 5 October 2015 10:47) Zik so interesting not. In the 10th century even then you Serbs were run by the Bulgari Turks what is new. That the Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian%E2%80%93Bulgarian_battle_of_926 had to save your sorry asses. As for the writer of the pathetic drivel you quot is a Serb. Every one knows how truthful they are. Another interesting event happened 3 years before that Croatian army's totally devastated the Magyar Hun invasion.

too funny

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

[link]

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)
Well lets see just how should the US do that?
Open up the reserves so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can walk by and see, in which case you would claim that they were just gold painted lead bars.
or
they could release some "official" audit that you would just claim was manufactured,
or they could have some international committee come in and verify the holdings, again you would only claim that they were bribed by the US,
or better,
I could just come on here and say I am President Obama and I swear it is true,
would be just as reliable as digging up some statements from anyone on the internet who wants to make claims they cannot prove.
or
we could just say that the powers of the rest of the world accept the fact.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Your a joke, read some Economics books.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

Yup, I just read some economics books, including the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj (who thanks God returned to illuminate all of us) and found nowhere that the US debt cannot be serviced and be serviced at the same time lol
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I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

That's not what you said. You said "it cannot be serviced" not "it will not be serviced in the long term" or anything about long term sustainability. But I'm glad you finally understood the nonsense that you were writing earlier and wrote a more coherent statement now.

But still, even your new statement is not reliable, since those who actually lend money to the US and stand to loose real money if their analysis is wrong disagree with you. You loose nothing if your "analysis" is wrong which is why your "analysis" can be ignored.

P.S. CE = "Chief Economist"

icj1

pre 8 godina

Thinking is the hardest work there is
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yup, totally agree... Which is why you're seldom seen doing it!
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you don't understand my links
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Well, it's a not a matter of understanding. As I told you already, the most patriotic of Serbs consider the American and British news organizations as evil, controlled by the US goverment, corporations, etc etc etc. So, unless you say that the most patriotic of Serbs are wrong and American and British news organizations are reliable, we can't rely on them.
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The whole world knows
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

I, for one, don't know it, so obviously your statement above is a lie.
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that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power...
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yeah, sure, sure... Now back to the point you try to divert from, you still did not epxlain which Leonidas we should believe: the one who said that the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009 or the other Leonidas who said 2011? And still none of these Leonidas has explained why there were rebeles against Assad in the first place for the US to train if Assad is so angelic!!!

rote

pre 8 godina

masks off !!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-shouldnt-let-russia-fight-the-islamic-state/2015/10/05/ad77beda-6b6c-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

rote

pre 8 godina

Leonidas

You must be aware of what happened to the gold of some European states who trusted their it to the evil in pre-war period. The gold was accepted from the presidents as private persons but not from states that owned the gold. It was a fatal contract for the presidents and for the victim states. Rather soon Czech president Benesh and the Polish Sykorski “accidentally” died … Same was the fate of some other European monarchs …

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Stop pussyfooting with the terrorist Putin and the Assad murderer. Time to arm the free Syrian army with more advance weaponry. Syrian officers and troops of conscious who wouldn't take orders from a criminal to murder civilians. That are protecting civilians from the deranged despot murderer. They control the southern Syrian provinces protecting civilians from Isis and murdering despot Assad. Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals air base it is using and the port. Put a end to the criminals travesty that is going on much to long.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22906965 it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers. Putin is desperate to have Western sanctions lifted, that is why he is pretending to join the war against ISIS. This is nothing but an attempt to curry favor in the West. In fact, Russia is taking this rather transparent opportunity to prop up the doomed Assad regime. Russian planes have thus far only attacked rebel groups that are fighting against ISIS. Meanwhile, Russia is wasting money it can't spare by feigning a war against ISIS in hopes of convincing some in the EU to change their position on sanctions against Russia, in hopes of weakening the Alliance. The only way that a cornered Putin can remove his name from the West's shit list is to "accidentally" bomb the Assad palace and compound. This must be followed by returning Crimea to its rightful owners as well as withdrawing Russian troops and support from Eastern Ukraine. Anything less will only prolong the suffering of the Russian people. However, I do not believe Putin is clever enough or sane enough to make the correct decision.

rote

pre 8 godina

Croatia is doing its part it sent over 70 huge Ilyushin plane loads of weapons to the free Syrian army and it made gains against both. Croatia has RBS-15 ground to ground missals it dose not need and S300's. They should go to Syrian Free army take out the Russian criminals

(Lenard, 2 October 2015 10:20)

Lenard seems that you forgot your brains at home again. What Croatia you are talking about ? Forget about it when you talk about things outside the Balkans. Because it’s not a subject of the international relations. It’s an object of such relations like the buffet in your home. Another crazy idea is to supply them with surface-to-air missiles as no one knows who will obtain them in a year when Airbuses start to fall down. Also if only a Russian plane is hit down with a Croatian missile Russia will come to you soon enough. So calm down and watch the developments you cannot influence. To say nothing that the Syrian Free Amy is a same kind terroristic organization as ISIL.

rote

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia

There were no nations before 17-18 centuries. Most of them were formed in 19-20 only. So be careful with words Croats, Germans ect. This year a big international group of scientists fnished their genetic-linguistic research. According to it Slavs had a big Scandinavian component and Croat Y-DNA proves very well. Yet northern Russian also have a big share of the N1c1 that differs the Croats from other South Slavs. … http://haplogroup.narod.ru/russ.html

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice. I traced the Russian saints of 14-15 centuries and found out that all of them were Boyars first ! Boyar was a noble title one could not pass to his son. But I found also that the fathers and grandfathers of all Russian saints (including святые, were Boyars too.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.

Read how they explain words like Istanbul, California, Philadelphia, Cuba, Peru, Galicia, India, Moghuls, Megaleon Tartaria, Prussia, Borussia, Persia, Syria, Assyria, Bejijng and many others to see that they lie us all the time. No errors about the Germans or Turks from Orbini !

icj1

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

So, you are confirming what I said... Thx :)
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the problem is that it has not proven it.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Proven to whom? To you? lol Show me then where Russia has proven its gold reserves... :)
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Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)

Ok, so you were lying before when you said that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world". "top 5" and "largest" is not the same thing. So, thanks again for proving what I said earlier that your statement that "Russia has the largest Gold reserves in the world" was a flat-out lie that you just made up out of thin air.

I understand though that you are trying to do some damage countrol by making different statements now because the lies you originally stated were exposed, but it's too late. Next time, check the facts BEFORE posting. Don't state as "facts" whatever you wish with the hope that your lies are not going to be caught and then try to fix them afterwards.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?
(rote, 2 October 2015 20:28) Croatians are not Slavic they Haplogroup I well over 80% %http://www.arslanmb.org/ArmenianDNAProject/Haplogroup-I.png Slavs are R1A you know that. Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I. That some moved north after the waiting out the last Ice Age in Croatia/Bosnia. You can thank Haplo I for establishing first nations in "Russia". Rurik ruling over Slavs and civilizing you. Just like over the "Serbs". The "Serbs" have 23% H I the most and then 18% R1A but they are hodgepodge of Haplogroups. I could tell you more but your little world can't take it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

I love your madness because it means that we are doing the right things. Be the way we have been missing you when you changed the sucking partner this Monday. Everybody was seeking for you when Croatia made a 180 degree reverse. Tell me if you are still a Slav or after so many years of sucking you forgot your routes ?

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Lenard What Croatia you are talking about ? Their is only one [link] it is helping the Iraqis, Afghani's and the Kurd's also. With idiot Putin's criminal involvement it just muddies the water just that more.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 11:33)

The so-called Free Syrian army is Al Qaeda all but in name.I am sure the Croatian Authorities must've known such facts.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579547183675484314
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/isis-fighting-alongside-free-syrian-army-al-qaida/

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments. The new recruits were trained by the CIA in Turkey, then allocated to the FSA and used to fight the Syrian government along with al-Qaeda forces.Therefore,what Croatia has been doing is actively supporting and arming the ISIS killers.Are Croatians proud of their government's involvement on the side of ISIS? You most certainly are.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:28)

I did not mention any "Illyrian" stuff!!! It looks like you are the one that believes in such tales since you brought it up :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Your a joke, read some Economics books.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

Yup, I just read some economics books, including the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj (who thanks God returned to illuminate all of us) and found nowhere that the US debt cannot be serviced and be serviced at the same time lol
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I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:57)

That's not what you said. You said "it cannot be serviced" not "it will not be serviced in the long term" or anything about long term sustainability. But I'm glad you finally understood the nonsense that you were writing earlier and wrote a more coherent statement now.

But still, even your new statement is not reliable, since those who actually lend money to the US and stand to loose real money if their analysis is wrong disagree with you. You loose nothing if your "analysis" is wrong which is why your "analysis" can be ignored.

P.S. CE = "Chief Economist"

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.

Hollywood corporations needed some action movie themes to entertain the American public so they thought that creating Al Qaeda and produce movies about it would make them rich :)

If you don't believe the above, let me know and I can create a Wikipedia page or some other internet link that says the above - that's all the evidence that several contributors of these forums need!

rote

pre 8 godina

Lenard

You know that most often I don’t like your comments because you stop to be reasonable when it comes to the Serbs. But despite the tune of your current comment I gave my rare LIKE this time. Because I agree most things you say and besides seems that you are the only one on this forum who knows not only about Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. Maybe you are interested only in those whom you suspect to be Croats. In fact only Orbini was a Croat but the history he describes is in a great part their history of the Rurikovici dynasty. They appointed members of their family as governors of the seized territories. But today no one can say for sure what was their real history as many books were stolen to Vatican from Constantinople in 1448 by Pope Nicolas V and from Moscow in 1612. Yet mentally it was a Russian dynasty with Byzantine routes. But if you find pictures of Ivan Danilovic Kalita, Juri Danilovic, Dmitry Donskoy, Ivan III , Vasily II ect. you will find that they looked rather like Jews or Greeks. Yet you are right that their dominating happlogroups were R1a1 and N1c1. This dynasty was split in 1453 but they always ruled Constantinople since 1261 when they replaced the Armenian Angel dynasty here. All the Sultans and Balkan "kings" and "princes" also belonged to the dynasty. Firts 5 Habsburgs ( Нав город) were Rurikovici too.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, IT CANNOT BE SERVICED at the current interest rates

The only reason THE US IS ABLE TO SERVICE ITS DEBT is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)
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Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol
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Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That is a flat-out lie; you just made it up out of thin air. Do you even attempt to check facts before you come up with such trash?! Russia is nowhere close to having the largest Gold reserves in the world. Even countries like France or Italy have much larger gold reserves than Russia. Sorry bro, we can't change the facts to make you happy.
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It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:18)

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1,
Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

Oh dear, the sources that you provided are all American and British news sources not very different from Fox News :) Those are evil news organizations according to the most patriotic of Serbs. How can I rely on them?!
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The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
(Leonidas, 3 October 2015 20:44)

I have no doubt that according to a certain Leonidas above that's how the Syrian crisis unfolded lol. However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train

rote

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavija

So you too have an idea of this Dalmatian monk! Becoming interesting so here’s the original of his famous book edited only in Russia but forbidden by Vatican. It is part of what I am trying to popularize here. But people prefer their school textbooks to the evident facts. They got used to think that Jesus was a Jew, that Samaria, Israel, Palestine, Jerusalem, Jordan, Bethlehem, Judea were at the same small spot never marked on any old map, that western Europeans had a history of their own before 16 century ect. Serbs got used to think that Nemanovici were Serbs, Shqiptars think that Skanderbeg was a Shqiptar, Croats shoot films “Kings of Croatia” ect. Some believe that Mamelukes who ruled the ME for 600 years were slaves, others thing that Turkic was official language of the Ottomans, that Samurais were Japanese, that German nation existed before 18 century, that Swedish and German languages weren’t formed in 19 century, that Alexander the Great and Tamerlane were two different men, that some ancient Rome existed in Italy ect. But Mauro Orbini was one of the many who did not think so before the Reformation bacchanalia started. Please explain at least how could Stefan Silny be a Serb if Urosh i.e. Russian was part of his family name while Raska meant little Russia?

http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/orbini.html
http://chronologia.org/en/nch5_1_empire/index.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/04_4.html
http://chronologia.org/en/old_books/index.html

rote

pre 8 godina

masks off !!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-shouldnt-let-russia-fight-the-islamic-state/2015/10/05/ad77beda-6b6c-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

too funny

pre 8 godina

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

[link]

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves
(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 16:54)
Well lets see just how should the US do that?
Open up the reserves so every Tom, Dick, and Harry can walk by and see, in which case you would claim that they were just gold painted lead bars.
or
they could release some "official" audit that you would just claim was manufactured,
or they could have some international committee come in and verify the holdings, again you would only claim that they were bribed by the US,
or better,
I could just come on here and say I am President Obama and I swear it is true,
would be just as reliable as digging up some statements from anyone on the internet who wants to make claims they cannot prove.
or
we could just say that the powers of the rest of the world accept the fact.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin is probably the only sensible outside player in the Syrian war and he’s running rings around the inept Western leaders-Obama, Cameron, Merkel,Hollande who are all revealing themselves to be third-raters in comparison.Putin and Iran have always said they would support Assad.He is the only leader that is stopping ISIL the child killing rapists from controlling all of Syria and stopping 20 million refugees coming to Europe.Obama is a delusional clown in cloud cuckoo land because he seems to think that some lovely democracy will flourish once they allow ISIL to remove Assad.Let me tell Obama about the type of democracy he has forced on countries and the policies he has actively propagated. Libya under Gaddafi - most well off country in Africa with free electricity, water and education, Iraq under Hussein - very rich, free electricity and water and free schooling, Housing etc.Since Obama brought them “democracy” Iraq and Libya have become lovely countries where everyone is a surgeon and can amputate your hands as a cure all for everything.
The US and its allies know full well that it's a choice between Assad and Islamists. But some US allies (namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel) actually prefer ISIS and Al Qaeda over a secular Syrian regime, so the US feels compelled to insist that "Assad must go" even though they know such a policy cannot jive with the "war on terror."

icj1

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 14:53)

Yup, that's another good one... anobody else wants to compete in with Leonidas in creativity haha

Bob

pre 8 godina

Most of the posts here are totally off the subject.

What has pointless debate about spurious theories about genetic origins of Croats got to do with the potential effectiveness of Putin's policy?

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(I suppose it could be said that in both cases, their lowly positions in relation to the West leave them having to do something to address their inferiority complexes!) ;-)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Thinking is the hardest work there is
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yup, totally agree... Which is why you're seldom seen doing it!
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you don't understand my links
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Well, it's a not a matter of understanding. As I told you already, the most patriotic of Serbs consider the American and British news organizations as evil, controlled by the US goverment, corporations, etc etc etc. So, unless you say that the most patriotic of Serbs are wrong and American and British news organizations are reliable, we can't rely on them.
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The whole world knows
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

I, for one, don't know it, so obviously your statement above is a lie.
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that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power...
(Leonidas, 5 October 2015 14:17)

Yeah, sure, sure... Now back to the point you try to divert from, you still did not epxlain which Leonidas we should believe: the one who said that the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009 or the other Leonidas who said 2011? And still none of these Leonidas has explained why there were rebeles against Assad in the first place for the US to train if Assad is so angelic!!!

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> [link]

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.
(Zoran, 5 October 2015 10:47) Zik so interesting not. In the 10th century even then you Serbs were run by the Bulgari Turks what is new. That the Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian%E2%80%93Bulgarian_battle_of_926 had to save your sorry asses. As for the writer of the pathetic drivel you quot is a Serb. Every one knows how truthful they are. Another interesting event happened 3 years before that Croatian army's totally devastated the Magyar Hun invasion.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia is dangerously close to running out of money, there is less than 200 Billion dollars left in their coffers.
(The Count of Kosova, 2 October 2015 21:07)

Can you count,really? Russia's debt to GDP is less than 12%, the lowest in the world. The United States is 106% debt per GDP and is essentially bankrupt. Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.

They don't call you the "Count of Kosovo" for nothing. You should also learn how to spell as well.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Oh, dear... The ignorance in these forums is sometimes astonishing. What matters is the ability to service debt, not the amount of debt. The US has no problem to service a debt that is 106% of it's GDP because the US can just roll that debt over very cheaply because lenders have absolute trust that they will get back the money they lend to the US.

On the other hand, if Russia runs out of foreign reserves, first it won't be able to service its debt (regardless of how small it is) and then it won't be able to even feed its people and nobody in his sane mind will be lending to Russia given Russia's horrific creditworthiness.
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So you can't count as well, your name certainly matches your IQ.

The US has 16 trillion dollars in debt, it cannot be serviced at the current interest rates let alone if rates start going up. Its mathematically impossible. Do you know how the US services it's debt? It prints money from the US Bank reserve which independent from the US government. The only reason the US is able to service it's debt is because the US dollar is the world reserve and petro-currency which has artificially inflated the value of the US dollar.

Russia on the other hand can raise debt at any time and has the largest Gold reserves in the world. It actually is in surplus and its currency is backed up by it's Gold reserve. The same cannot be said in the US, the Gold reserves have been depleted in the US as well.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha

No worries mate, I know it's hard to be consistent even in the same paragraph when you try to create a virtual reality that only exists in your head lol


Your a joke, read some Economics books. I just told you how US can service it's debt in the short term, long term sustainability is impossible.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Ok, so you are yourself rejecting your own point that the US debt "cannot be serviced" by saying that the "US is able to service its debt" hahaha
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09)

Try reading some basic Economics courses, might help you understand if your IQ can handle it.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Crimea is already with it's rightful country Russia, it was given away by Kruchev (sp)in 1949.
(Jugoslavija, 3 October 2015 00:14)

Ok, good... So Kosovo is in the rightful place now too (i.e. not under Serbs' control), since it was given away to Serbs when they came to the Balkans

How far back you want to go, mate :)
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:31)

I see, you want to talk about Albanian Illyrian fairy tales.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj1,

Are you covering your ignorance, self-esteem and depression with sarcasm? Of course you are! You wouldn't want your ignorance to go out naked would you? I am aware that you're Fox News educated-most Albanians are- but even an idiot will find it easy to look at other sources to verify E Snowden's -mainly-revelations.The Syrian crisis unfolded as follows:
• CIA began "behaviour reform" in Syria in 2009, funding and promoting a Syria without Assad.
• In 2011, USA begun training rebels with private military company Blackwater.
• In 2012, rebels were being armed by CIA.
• In 2013, ISIS was mounted, mainly morphed by the so-called rebels.
• In 2014-2015, ISIS are the only forces challenging Assad.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-secretly-backed-syrian-opposition-groups-cables-released-by-wikileaks-show/2011/04/14/AF1p9hwD_story.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/world/middleeast/cia-said-to-aid-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-stratfor-emails-us-government-sent-blackwater-veteran-to-fight-with-rebels-in-libya-and-syria-2012-3?IR=T
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10283758/First-Syria-rebels-armed-and-trained-by-CIA-on-way-to-battlefield.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Mauro Orbini but also of the genetics of the Rurikovici as most powerful dynasty of the medieval times. (rote, 3 October 2015 11:06)

Interesting that "Mavro" Orbini first name means "Black" in Greek, similar to Black George or Karadordevic. Orbini was Pan Slavic and his work included a translation of the 12th-century Serbian Monk The Chronicle of Priest Duklianin. However, his writing contained errors in labeling Germans and Turkic people as Slavs, his theory of Scandanavian origin of Croats is suspect at best.

Many of his ideas were further developed by Josip Juraj Strossmayer, another Croat who many consider the main proponent of Pan-Slavism and the creation of the Kingdom Of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. His main opposition was Nikola Pasic, foreign minister of Serbia who wanted a Serbian unitary state after WWI.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Also our other decedents that live in mostly in Scandinavian country's have Haplo I.
(Lenard, 2 October 2015 23:12)
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Lenard, according to your very own Croatian FA Institute in Zagreb, they claim that "Croats are descendants of the Serbs and the genetic match of both peoples is nearly identical, with the difference that Serbs are the older of the two peoples and therefore, practically created the Croatian nation!"

The connection is with Serbs from the 10th century and not modern day Serbs, who were under occupation by the Ottomans for centuries.

You can check for yourself here -> http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/07/zagreb-in-a-panic-scientifically-proven-that-croats-are-descendants-of-serbs-2687972.html

Better to check with your own Croatian Institute FA in Zagreb.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

That's just another lie like the other one above since the US has the largest Gold reserves in the world, more than 2x larger than the next country.
(icj1, 4 October 2015 07:09) # Co

Before you call someone a "liar" , you should do more research. US is listed as the 1st nation in Gold reserves, the problem is that it has not proven it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/21212-has-the-federal-reserve-sold-the-gold-at-fort-knox

Russia is listed in the top 5 for Gold Reserves

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

icj
You don't seem to recognise that you are little more than a brainwashed, walking, talking inferiority complex.Stop spamming and being so obsessive about something you don't understand.Who's paying you to keep repeating yourself?

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Al-Qaeda has been created by the US government in order to destabilize Middle Eastern governments.
(Leonidas, 2 October 2015 12:18)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that Al-Qaeda was created by Hollywood.
(icj1, 3 October 2015 02:41)

Actually, a friend of mine with excellent high level connections told me that UCK, KLA and the Albanian refugees was created by Hollywood.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Most likely in 12 century there were no churches or monasteries yet. Seems that Jesus was born in 1152 and crucified in 1185 in Jerusalem on Bosporus. First monasteries appeared in 14 century to home the retired Horde’s soldiers who could not return to their villages after 30 years of crevice.

Orbini gives a list of 257 books that he used in his work. But almost all of them were destroyed. His own book immediately was included to Vatican’s list of the indicted books.
(rote, 4 October 2015 10:46)

Guess who stopped taking his medications.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

However according to another Leonidas "the US started training rebels in order to expel Assad back in 2009" not in 2011 like the Leonidas above says. It appears different Leonidas disagree with each other and none of the Leonidas has been able to explain why people rebeled against angelic Assad in the first place therefore allowing the US to have rebels to train
(icj1,

Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is either the reason why you don’t engage in it or you're probably unable to think because you don't understand my links in which case you should perhaps try a publication with a lower reading age.Even Western sources cannot hide any longer the fact the US was the instigator of the insurrection in Syria repeating the same pattern as she did in Libya and Ukraine.The whole world knows that the US is a bloated s...-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their neocon overloards.That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chief's "Wednesday" panties.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

There is no Gold in Fort Knox

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(Jugoslavija, 5 October 2015 17:11)

It's true they don’t have any more physical gold.They haven't had a public audit since 1953.That’s why they can only give Germany 5 tons of the 1,500 tons it’s holding. In fact,Germany asked for this delivery in 2013 and the Fed refused. Instead it said we will give you back 300 tons which is 20% of what you trusted us to keep for you over the next seven years.

rote

pre 8 godina

Leonidas

You must be aware of what happened to the gold of some European states who trusted their it to the evil in pre-war period. The gold was accepted from the presidents as private persons but not from states that owned the gold. It was a fatal contract for the presidents and for the victim states. Rather soon Czech president Benesh and the Polish Sykorski “accidentally” died … Same was the fate of some other European monarchs …