EC to give Serbia and Macedonia 17 million for refugees

(Karma, 23 September 2015 15:58)

You paint a very gloomy picture when in reality this is the first time certainly in my living memory that international media outlets like CNN have praised Serbia. It is a fact that the migrants have been treated the most humanely in Serbia than any other country in the region. And as far as "letting" the migrants pass, yes of course Serbia did that. This is in line with the EU's principles of freedom of movement. Not sure where the controversy in that is.

And don't worry about Serbia not being able to "keep up with kosovo", what ever the hell that means. Keep up in what sense? Like the Serb gov't will be so preoccupied with treating the migrants humanely that they wont have any time to respond to dirty, underhanded methods the KLA use to steal more Serbian property in Kosovo-Metohija? Doubt it.

Karma said, "...The govt of Serbia is going to be so occupied with their migrant crisis that they will not have the energy to keep up the pace with Kosovo."

Pace?

Like the estimated 50,000 economical migrants from Kosovo who, earlier this year, tried to enter the EU.

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/poverty-spurs-mass-migration-kosovo-312131

The pace is an exodus out of Kosovo.

Pocket change from Brussels. Throw the peasants a few coppers and they'll be happy. It says all you need to know about the relationship.

How is this going to be enough. Buss and train rides across Serbia for 10 000 people must cost almost million euros alone.

Turkey getting a billion is just REWARDING them for causing this invasion of economic migrants.

The Turkish people smugglers are making a HUGE profit from this.

Turks are charging over a THOUSAND dollars for FAKE passports.

Most of these are NOT Syrians - only 20% are.

Turkish smugglers charge SEVERAL THOUSAND to this people for travel on this route.

As for "KARMA" it is Albanian-Afghani smugglers who've been operating at a base in Macedonia who have set up this route for many years.

ALBANIAN SMUGGLERS are in on this.

Use the money to send them all back to Macedonia so they can deal with them.

Turkey got ONE BILLION EUROS, is Merkel crazy.

How much of that money will go to the pockets of corrupt serbian police.

The interesting thing here is Serbia and Serbs. This route of entrance to the EU did not come by chance. The traffickers found a market in the corruptness of Serbia. You do not believe they have flowed freely through Serbia did you? It was quick money they come and go and that is the end to it--but wait now the others are balking at the numbers and it is at least causing a bottleneck Serbia has to deal with, at most it is about to cause a huge new minority in Serbia.
A whole new problem has opened up for Serbia, now they will have to handle the new population in a way that pleases the EU or there will be no entrance.
Of course all this plays out very well for Kosovo.
The govt of Serbia is going to be so occupied with their migrant crisis that they will not have the energy to keep up the pace with Kosovo.
The handling of the migrant crisis is about to go bad and that is going to cast a huge shadow over Serbia, just when you thought you could propagandize your way out of the Yugo mess.
The more you alienate your neighbors, the less influence Serbia has and the more threats that are coming out of Belgrade daily are severing relationships, it could take decades to repair.
But just as predicable, the Serbs are holding up the "victim card" it is everyone elses fault!

What kind of Idiot would give millions to corrupt fyromian police, oh wait, they already gave billions to greek banks.

Hmmm....I hope they stipulated an audit of the cash within 1 year.

Of course americans praise anyone dumb enough to take them. Serbia anyway is not culturally that far of from them. Serbs eat turkish food, listen to turbofolk and admire 'strong leaders'.

...And don't worry about Serbia not being able to "keep up with kosovo", what ever the hell that means. Keep up in what sense? Like the Serb gov't will be so preoccupied with treating the migrants humanely that they wont have any time to respond to dirty, underhanded methods the KLA use to steal more Serbian property in Kosovo-Metohija? Doubt it.
(Ari Gold, 23 September 2015 16:56) ....

Kosovo has gone long time ago and is drifting away as we speak.

Only racist and haters like you don't see it and hopefully people like you are not in majority in Serbia, otherwise a new Balkan war will start with dire consequences for Serbia and for the region.

Is time for Balkan people to cooperate and trade experiences and goods with each other, which means Serbs must get down from their high horse and consider others as fellow humans,not sub humans.

In the other words it is time to work together as we did in 1389,but this can not be achieve with racists and thick heads like you, MikeC, Peggy, Ratko etc.

P.S the policewoman is very sexy. Lol.

Balkan people should behave very careful not to further spoil their relations because of the refugees. They should remember that it’s not their war as Balkan states have no guilt in the ME bacchanalia. They themselves were targeted 20 years ago by the same evil center that destroyed the south Mediterranean region. The methods that destroyed the ME and the Balkans were also similar. Only the details were different. So best if you freeze for a while the old conflicts and act together to meet the new challenges. In any case this time Brussels depends more on you than you depend on the peanuts that they offer to cover their crimes. 17 is nothing but a new insult and new problems for the Balkan states.

(Ari Gold, 23 September 2015 16:56)
Yes, Serbia has treated the migrants well because they were a source of income traveling through to be someone else's problem. Not only has Serbs received money from migrants but from international sources (does anyone believe 100% of those funds go to the migrants?)
But that is about to change, as it is getting harder to get them across the border but they keep coming.
If they start returning some to Serbia and it becomes Serbia's problem colors will change. The world has seen how Serbs respond to any other ethnic group that they feel as a threat to their perceived superiority and terrain. It will be only a matter of time until those inbred characteristics come out.
As far as pace which you or Roger7 do not understand. In the picture I painted above is demonstrated with the still Serbian goal to make the Albanians suffer as much as possible. Now you about to so overwhelmed that you cannot keep that "pace". Look at the news on B92 hardly a mention of Kosovo in the last 2 weeks!
Maybe its Karma or actually a very well thought out plan, who knows?

I think the best idea is to house all refugees at the Camp Bondsteel.

The Camp Bndsteelians are involved in heavy girl-watching in Pristina and a lot of unnecessary water-related activities in Ohrid. All this from my money.

I do not approve that my money is being used that way. The Syrian disaster, Lybian disaster, Afghan disaster was caused by incompetent and malicious American politicians.

Therefore I suggest other activities for the ones who enjoy the easy life at Camp Bondsteel.

#1 Syrian baby-poo cleaning

#2 Learn what the Swedish word every local knows regardless who they are. That word is "Pampers". Apply your knowledge to Syrian children! See #1.

#3 Learn how to cook Middle-Eastern or Central Asian way. Apply your knowledge in the military kitchen transformed to refugee kitchen!

All these skills are vital for your future. For #1 + #2: you want kids, that's why you watch the young girls in Pristina or Ohrid, right?

For #3: that skill improves your health and by eating less junk food you will look like what the girls you watch have respect for, not like a fat American no one wants to marry.

It's a win-win I guess.

This money should be used to feed them for a couple of more days and then put on buses, airplanes and trains back to the Middle East.

What kind of Idiot would give millions to corrupt fyromian police, oh wait, they already gave billions to greek banks.
(toxswedebt, 23 September 2015 16:22)

Careful, Ari Gold gets very envious when he hears about countries other than Serbia receive handouts from the EU. Ari is constantly on vigil as to which country gets money that he believes Serbia deserves instead. Like lying and inat, envy is just another shameful Serbian trait.

(ida, 23 September 2015 21:02)
Isn't it nice to have someone that knows all to come in here and tell us how squeaky clean Serbs are!!! If only 5% of what you say is true!

Perhaps a better title for this story would be:

"EU to give Serbia and Macedonia 17 million refugees."

That appears to be their ultimate plan.

I propose 20 billion dollar refugee bailout to the Balkans, greeks will of course get 19 billion of it. Why not, Germany already keeps economy in those countries up and running.

Only racist and haters like you don't see it and hopefully people like you are not in majority in Serbia, otherwise a new Balkan war will start with dire consequences for Serbia and for the region.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 23 September 2015 21:00)

Believing in territorial integrity is not racist. I feel genuinely bad when I think back this past February when over 100,000 Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija traveled through the rest of Serbia to migrate somewhere in the EU. Maybe it's a sign that things have gone horribly wrong, for Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija.

I think we all can agree that this proves a failure of western policy not only in Middle East, but the Balkans as well. Germans wanted so badly their eastern territories and Habsburg lands in 1989 and 1991, americans wanted a foot hold on the Balkans. Nobody bothered to figure out if these 'young democracies' would be functional or not. Germans need to remember that if Yugoslavia still existed, than there would be much less welfare recipients in Germany. You wanted old Habsburg lands Slovenia and Croatia, now enjoy when they let dvery refuged pass to Deutchland and make you pay the bill.

Buymeapint : “Germans wanted so badly their eastern territories and Habsburg lands in 1989 … “

You will not like it but the first 5 Habsburgs were not Germans or Austrians. In fact they belonged to the ruling dynasty of the world known as Rurikovici. Even the word Habsburg is a combination of two words – Slavic HAB (new) and Latin BURG (city) = Новгород. When in late 16 century Europe separated from the Empire the Horde's governors of central Europe called themselves the Habsburgs. It explained why they ruled the multiple Kufusts that appeared here but those were self-proclaimed Habsburgs. Yet we cannot call them Germans as this nation was formed only in 18 century despite the famous GERMANIA fairy tale written by Tacit. The short of it was that after almost 150 years of Reformation wars in Europe population of current German lands was 25% of what they had in the beginning. Besides the lands were devastated. So they asked the bandits who formed their multiple private armies to stay there to live. Those were bandits from all over the continent and during peace time they knew not what to do and where to go so they agreed. Then the Poles and Ukrainians joined them and finally the Jews were pogromed in Ukraine so many of them flew to Europe to assimilate in Germany. Thus Germans are a severe cocktail while their language was formed only in 19 century. And of course this nation has nothing to do neither to the Habsburgs nor to the medieval “German tribes”.

(Ataman, 24 September 2015 03:12)
Don't know why Kosovo is even mentioned in this Serbian created mess.
It was ok as long as the money was pouring in for these migrants to move across Serbian territory, but once they may have to stay it is "somebody else's" fault.
Maybe a unified position of the UNSC may have prevented this catastrophy. You vilify the US for getting involved in Syria but yet you do not mention that Russia is moving their military in?
I think it sad but humorous that you speak of the US soldiers looking at the young females in Pristina, what were the complaints of the Serbian troops in Kosovo, that's right they were accused of massive gang rapes of young girls while their families were held at gunpoint to watch. Maybe you need to check your own ethnic morals before pointing fingers.

Serbia is condemning others for not taking in these refugees, but they are only allowing them to cross their land, not welcoming them to stay. You have no moral high ground here.

Europe does not need more gypsies, 160,000? OH GOD!

In the other words it is time to work together as we did in 1389,but this can not be achieve with racists and thick heads like you, MikeC, Peggy, Ratko etc.

P.S the policewoman is very sexy. Lol.
-----------------------------------
I certainly am in great company. Wouldn't have it any other way.
The days of Albanian scum being able to hoodwink a Serbian girl into giving him any attention are long gone. All you can do now is watch or see our women in pictures. Yes, she is good looking.

The interesting thing here is Serbia and Serbs. This route of entrance to the EU did not come by chance. The traffickers found a market in the corruptness of Serbia. You do not believe they have flowed freely through Serbia did you? It was quick money they come and go and that is the end to it--but wait now the others are balking at the numbers and it is at least causing a bottleneck Serbia has to deal with, at most it is about to cause a huge new minority in Serbia.
A whole new problem has opened up for Serbia, now they will have to handle the new population in a way that pleases the EU or there will be no entrance.
Of course all this plays out very well for Kosovo.
The govt of Serbia is going to be so occupied with their migrant crisis that they will not have the energy to keep up the pace with Kosovo.
The handling of the migrant crisis is about to go bad and that is going to cast a huge shadow over Serbia, just when you thought you could propagandize your way out of the Yugo mess.
The more you alienate your neighbors, the less influence Serbia has and the more threats that are coming out of Belgrade daily are severing relationships, it could take decades to repair.
But just as predicable, the Serbs are holding up the "victim card" it is everyone elses fault!

How much of that money will go to the pockets of corrupt serbian police.

Of course americans praise anyone dumb enough to take them. Serbia anyway is not culturally that far of from them. Serbs eat turkish food, listen to turbofolk and admire 'strong leaders'.

...And don't worry about Serbia not being able to "keep up with kosovo", what ever the hell that means. Keep up in what sense? Like the Serb gov't will be so preoccupied with treating the migrants humanely that they wont have any time to respond to dirty, underhanded methods the KLA use to steal more Serbian property in Kosovo-Metohija? Doubt it.
(Ari Gold, 23 September 2015 16:56) ....

Kosovo has gone long time ago and is drifting away as we speak.

Only racist and haters like you don't see it and hopefully people like you are not in majority in Serbia, otherwise a new Balkan war will start with dire consequences for Serbia and for the region.

Is time for Balkan people to cooperate and trade experiences and goods with each other, which means Serbs must get down from their high horse and consider others as fellow humans,not sub humans.

In the other words it is time to work together as we did in 1389,but this can not be achieve with racists and thick heads like you, MikeC, Peggy, Ratko etc.

P.S the policewoman is very sexy. Lol.

(Karma, 23 September 2015 15:58)

You paint a very gloomy picture when in reality this is the first time certainly in my living memory that international media outlets like CNN have praised Serbia. It is a fact that the migrants have been treated the most humanely in Serbia than any other country in the region. And as far as "letting" the migrants pass, yes of course Serbia did that. This is in line with the EU's principles of freedom of movement. Not sure where the controversy in that is.

And don't worry about Serbia not being able to "keep up with kosovo", what ever the hell that means. Keep up in what sense? Like the Serb gov't will be so preoccupied with treating the migrants humanely that they wont have any time to respond to dirty, underhanded methods the KLA use to steal more Serbian property in Kosovo-Metohija? Doubt it.

(Ari Gold, 23 September 2015 16:56)
Yes, Serbia has treated the migrants well because they were a source of income traveling through to be someone else's problem. Not only has Serbs received money from migrants but from international sources (does anyone believe 100% of those funds go to the migrants?)
But that is about to change, as it is getting harder to get them across the border but they keep coming.
If they start returning some to Serbia and it becomes Serbia's problem colors will change. The world has seen how Serbs respond to any other ethnic group that they feel as a threat to their perceived superiority and terrain. It will be only a matter of time until those inbred characteristics come out.
As far as pace which you or Roger7 do not understand. In the picture I painted above is demonstrated with the still Serbian goal to make the Albanians suffer as much as possible. Now you about to so overwhelmed that you cannot keep that "pace". Look at the news on B92 hardly a mention of Kosovo in the last 2 weeks!
Maybe its Karma or actually a very well thought out plan, who knows?

Use the money to send them all back to Macedonia so they can deal with them.

Turkey getting a billion is just REWARDING them for causing this invasion of economic migrants.

The Turkish people smugglers are making a HUGE profit from this.

Turks are charging over a THOUSAND dollars for FAKE passports.

Most of these are NOT Syrians - only 20% are.

Turkish smugglers charge SEVERAL THOUSAND to this people for travel on this route.

As for "KARMA" it is Albanian-Afghani smugglers who've been operating at a base in Macedonia who have set up this route for many years.

ALBANIAN SMUGGLERS are in on this.

Karma said, "...The govt of Serbia is going to be so occupied with their migrant crisis that they will not have the energy to keep up the pace with Kosovo."

Pace?

Like the estimated 50,000 economical migrants from Kosovo who, earlier this year, tried to enter the EU.

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/poverty-spurs-mass-migration-kosovo-312131

The pace is an exodus out of Kosovo.

I propose 20 billion dollar refugee bailout to the Balkans, greeks will of course get 19 billion of it. Why not, Germany already keeps economy in those countries up and running.

How is this going to be enough. Buss and train rides across Serbia for 10 000 people must cost almost million euros alone.

What kind of Idiot would give millions to corrupt fyromian police, oh wait, they already gave billions to greek banks.
(toxswedebt, 23 September 2015 16:22)

Careful, Ari Gold gets very envious when he hears about countries other than Serbia receive handouts from the EU. Ari is constantly on vigil as to which country gets money that he believes Serbia deserves instead. Like lying and inat, envy is just another shameful Serbian trait.

What kind of Idiot would give millions to corrupt fyromian police, oh wait, they already gave billions to greek banks.

(ida, 23 September 2015 21:02)
Isn't it nice to have someone that knows all to come in here and tell us how squeaky clean Serbs are!!! If only 5% of what you say is true!

Only racist and haters like you don't see it and hopefully people like you are not in majority in Serbia, otherwise a new Balkan war will start with dire consequences for Serbia and for the region.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 23 September 2015 21:00)

Believing in territorial integrity is not racist. I feel genuinely bad when I think back this past February when over 100,000 Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija traveled through the rest of Serbia to migrate somewhere in the EU. Maybe it's a sign that things have gone horribly wrong, for Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija.

I think the best idea is to house all refugees at the Camp Bondsteel.

The Camp Bndsteelians are involved in heavy girl-watching in Pristina and a lot of unnecessary water-related activities in Ohrid. All this from my money.

I do not approve that my money is being used that way. The Syrian disaster, Lybian disaster, Afghan disaster was caused by incompetent and malicious American politicians.

Therefore I suggest other activities for the ones who enjoy the easy life at Camp Bondsteel.

#1 Syrian baby-poo cleaning

#2 Learn what the Swedish word every local knows regardless who they are. That word is "Pampers". Apply your knowledge to Syrian children! See #1.

#3 Learn how to cook Middle-Eastern or Central Asian way. Apply your knowledge in the military kitchen transformed to refugee kitchen!

All these skills are vital for your future. For #1 + #2: you want kids, that's why you watch the young girls in Pristina or Ohrid, right?

For #3: that skill improves your health and by eating less junk food you will look like what the girls you watch have respect for, not like a fat American no one wants to marry.

It's a win-win I guess.

Europe does not need more gypsies, 160,000? OH GOD!

In the other words it is time to work together as we did in 1389,but this can not be achieve with racists and thick heads like you, MikeC, Peggy, Ratko etc.

P.S the policewoman is very sexy. Lol.
-----------------------------------
I certainly am in great company. Wouldn't have it any other way.
The days of Albanian scum being able to hoodwink a Serbian girl into giving him any attention are long gone. All you can do now is watch or see our women in pictures. Yes, she is good looking.

Pocket change from Brussels. Throw the peasants a few coppers and they'll be happy. It says all you need to know about the relationship.

Turkey got ONE BILLION EUROS, is Merkel crazy.

I think we all can agree that this proves a failure of western policy not only in Middle East, but the Balkans as well. Germans wanted so badly their eastern territories and Habsburg lands in 1989 and 1991, americans wanted a foot hold on the Balkans. Nobody bothered to figure out if these 'young democracies' would be functional or not. Germans need to remember that if Yugoslavia still existed, than there would be much less welfare recipients in Germany. You wanted old Habsburg lands Slovenia and Croatia, now enjoy when they let dvery refuged pass to Deutchland and make you pay the bill.

(Ataman, 24 September 2015 03:12)
Don't know why Kosovo is even mentioned in this Serbian created mess.
It was ok as long as the money was pouring in for these migrants to move across Serbian territory, but once they may have to stay it is "somebody else's" fault.
Maybe a unified position of the UNSC may have prevented this catastrophy. You vilify the US for getting involved in Syria but yet you do not mention that Russia is moving their military in?
I think it sad but humorous that you speak of the US soldiers looking at the young females in Pristina, what were the complaints of the Serbian troops in Kosovo, that's right they were accused of massive gang rapes of young girls while their families were held at gunpoint to watch. Maybe you need to check your own ethnic morals before pointing fingers.

Serbia is condemning others for not taking in these refugees, but they are only allowing them to cross their land, not welcoming them to stay. You have no moral high ground here.

Hmmm....I hope they stipulated an audit of the cash within 1 year.

This money should be used to feed them for a couple of more days and then put on buses, airplanes and trains back to the Middle East.

Balkan people should behave very careful not to further spoil their relations because of the refugees. They should remember that it’s not their war as Balkan states have no guilt in the ME bacchanalia. They themselves were targeted 20 years ago by the same evil center that destroyed the south Mediterranean region. The methods that destroyed the ME and the Balkans were also similar. Only the details were different. So best if you freeze for a while the old conflicts and act together to meet the new challenges. In any case this time Brussels depends more on you than you depend on the peanuts that they offer to cover their crimes. 17 is nothing but a new insult and new problems for the Balkan states.

Perhaps a better title for this story would be:

"EU to give Serbia and Macedonia 17 million refugees."

That appears to be their ultimate plan.

Buymeapint : “Germans wanted so badly their eastern territories and Habsburg lands in 1989 … “

You will not like it but the first 5 Habsburgs were not Germans or Austrians. In fact they belonged to the ruling dynasty of the world known as Rurikovici. Even the word Habsburg is a combination of two words – Slavic HAB (new) and Latin BURG (city) = Новгород. When in late 16 century Europe separated from the Empire the Horde's governors of central Europe called themselves the Habsburgs. It explained why they ruled the multiple Kufusts that appeared here but those were self-proclaimed Habsburgs. Yet we cannot call them Germans as this nation was formed only in 18 century despite the famous GERMANIA fairy tale written by Tacit. The short of it was that after almost 150 years of Reformation wars in Europe population of current German lands was 25% of what they had in the beginning. Besides the lands were devastated. So they asked the bandits who formed their multiple private armies to stay there to live. Those were bandits from all over the continent and during peace time they knew not what to do and where to go so they agreed. Then the Poles and Ukrainians joined them and finally the Jews were pogromed in Ukraine so many of them flew to Europe to assimilate in Germany. Thus Germans are a severe cocktail while their language was formed only in 19 century. And of course this nation has nothing to do neither to the Habsburgs nor to the medieval “German tribes”.