When the next UNSC report about Kosovo will, as usual, speak about the 'progress made': Now the Albanian mob doesn't use stones any more to throw at Serbs and their vehicles and buses, but firecracker instead.
rote said: "...I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built..."
Damn you rote, you are so smart.
I always thought Jesus was Albanian like every other known world figure.
Now I am sad as you totally burst my bubble with your rant.
Can you clarify also if Jesus was fighting in the battle of Kosovo on Lazar's side (aka Jesus itself) or Murad's (aka Juda himself)? I always had this feeling that also Pristina meant Jerusalem, but could never prove it.
carpe diem : “Rote stop peddling your retarded theories here please.”
OK Google tell me please how came that Rome city was built in 1-3 centuries AC while the oldest buildings here belong to 14 century and in Vatican to 15 century ? How came that in the “capitol of the Empire” no new buildings were constructed along 1000 years ? How came that the Vatican buildings were built exactly during the siege of Constantinople by “the Turks” ? How can it be that in the “ancient” Rome the oldest buildings are some 600-700 years old only while the Coliseum is less than 200 years old only ? How came that there are no documents or coins or any other artefacts from the so called Dark Ages between III and IX centuries ? How came that we have no original documents about almost anything earlier of 17 centuries while what we are offered as ancient or medieval sources were always OBTAINED in the west and in 17-19 centuries only ? What evidence do you have that the famous Efes found in Turkey in 1967 is the real Efes or the “Viminacium” near Belgrade isn’t something else ? Was it written there? How came that the Bronze Age was earlier than the Iron Age if iron is 10 times easier to make while bronze components cannot be found in one region outside Russia and Brazil? To say nothing that tin was first melt in 16 century. Tell me how the Romans fought with their short tin-made swords for 600 years ? How could Ramzes II have a steel dagger (with the Abesquies!)in his hand ?
The C*unt : “ rote … wrote the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar ...”
Good joke !
I think that the battle of 1389 was for real while other 7 battles as if happened here were fake ones. Maybe some of them reflected real battles that took place in other regions. What I insist is that the battle of 1389 was an internal matter of the Great Horde. It was one of the several great battles of the Disaster (Smuta) Times that lasted since 1370 till 1415. There were no Turks at that times yet because Turka was the name of the first rifles that replaced the muskets only in 18 century. The Swede and some other Europeans called the Russians troops with such rifles as Turks but it mostly happened in 19 century while before that words Osmans. Ottomans or Turks were not used in Europe. Instead they used the Great Horde, Great Porta, Ottoman Porta ect. I don’t know on which of the two Russian sides the Serbians and other Balkan peoples fought but it was a civil war in any case. And if you trace what the Serbians leaders were doing during the battle you will find many strange things. Some of them disappeared while both sides abandoned the battlefield. All because it was a religious conflict over introducing the Apostle Christianity by Dmitry Donskoy (Constantine I the Great) in 1370. As you know he was killed in Kosovo as Murad I. Before that it was Royal Christianity of the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty to where Jesus belonged.
The Serbs in question, who had been driven out of their homes in Djakovica?
I don't think so they were driven out but 99.9% of them they used to be involved in all the crimes in Gjakova look the facts ask some question because everyone know everyone by name at that time in Gjakova im not saying after the war because he whole villages they move in the city before they wasn't villager as they are now and was one street called Serbian street and some Montenegrin on the other side of the city and how come those who never did and yes they will be able to go over there if they didn't do nothing or being involved in any crime trust me the people there do know same as Serbian who used to work specially for the post office they have the most crucial info were important people live before they will killed by serbian force and yes that did happen in Gjakova I don't think so Serbian do know really what happen in that city and what was the plan to happen if Italian contingent didn't stop over there on the way when they were going in the city of peja(PEC) when KFOR START TO MOVE IN so people get the fact before you talk BS..
The Count : “rote ... wrote ... that Christ was born in the 14th century …”
Pussy you know that I am very sceptic about the official history of every state. I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built. The other one is the main church of Russia. Mother Mary died in Crimea where she ran to after 1185 when Jesus was killed in Jerusalem on Yoros hill (Yoros kalesi) near Istanbul. Maybe His grave is here ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua%27s_Hill
Mother Mary is buried in the cave church near Chufut Kale. The world famous Uspensky Monastery was built here at her death place. Jesus (as it is said in Bible) belonged to the David family. But it was David Rosteslavsky (see Drevo Issevo in Kosovo monateries) the Kniaz of Smolensk from the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty. Jesus spent some 30 years of his life in Russia as Andrey Bogolubsky and some 3 years in Jerusalem as Andronik I Komnin. He was the Great Kniaz of the Rus Fema of the Byzantine and then the Emperor of the Byzantine. The fake Jerusalem in the stone desert of Africa wasn’t marked at any ancient or medieval map as it was built only in 19 century. No Bible have events took place here and the Jews confess it quite openly. The world war of 1856 is called now Crimean but in mid-19 century everybody in Europe and Russia called it WAR FOR THE LORD’S CRADDLE AND THE BETHLEHEM STAR. Why should they?
God help the Serbian people and normal Albanians from these savages.
(Ari Gold, 28 August 2015 16:17)
Ari Gold, are you including stupid Serbian people in your wish too? I am not asking for criminal Serbian people, because they do not exist in your mind.
All such occasions are an opportunity for those in the region to show others (notably the EU to which they aspire to join) that they understand the process of reconciliation. Once more the test has been failed. These believers are an easy target for the understandable anger of Albanians who suffered nearly 20 years ago but they were not responsible for the atrocities and should be allowed to go about their worship free from intimidation. The authorities seem to have reacted well to protect the Serbs but the fact that they had to do so is disturbing and of course costs money that is in very short supply. Many people around the world have suffered dreadful treatment at the hands of their fellow citizens but have found it in themselves to get on with life. Look at black South Africans who now live among their erstwhile white 'masters' with very little problem, certainly not of the type experienced in Kosovo. The economy and inclusivity are key to the healing process; people with jobs have little interest in causing trouble and do not usually have the time to do so.
I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
(rote, 28 August 2015 17:19)
WARNING, you are not hallucinating.
I submit this as evidence there are many mentally ill people in a collapsing Russia in need of psychiatric help. This poor soul, rote along with Dragolujb, Ataman, Ari Gold and many others are suffering from a neurosis initiated by Putin's surreal dictatorship. In Russia, pseudo intellectuals are recruited and paid by Putin to rewrite history. In Saint Petersburg, alone, there exists an institution on its outskirts where anti-social misfits are paid, rather poorly, by the Russian government to flood the internet with bizarre anti-Western misinformation. As an example, our friend rote, not long ago, wrote on B92 that Christ was born in the 14th century and the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar, who perished there, was actually Christ and Vuk Brankovic his Judas. Need I say more. I state this to give relief to any new participants on B92 who may have thought, incorrectly, they were delirious. In any event, welcome to rote's padded cell in cyberspace.
Well I'm glad that debate is over, as 'everybody knows'! Pity about supplying anything beyond scraping the barrel evidence, the kind that is exploited to say destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. all with the full backing of the western corporate media.
P.S. I've got some chemical weapons to sell you I got of a bloke from Iraq I know. He's also got a mate from Libya who wants to sell some too who also knows a guy from Syria. It's true. Believe it, because 'everyone knows'!
Dragoljub Djurkovic, your anger at the US is understandable. You have every right to excoriate the US for its past and ongoing role in the injustices being committed against the Serbian people. And indeed the US has a lot of blood on its hands from its role in international conflicts. But we are a very young country, the last piece of territory to become a state was Hawaii in 1959 and many natives would still like it to be an independent country. The role of the US in the destruction of native American peoples was only secondary. Most native Americans were already undergoing extermination before even the British colonies. You must include South and Central America among native Americans. Compare the Conquistadors with the Pilgrims and others fleeing religious persecution in Imperial England. The original religious groups most instrumental in founding the colonies that later fought for independence to form the US are largely extinct themselves.
Dragoljub : “So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire”
There was no ancient or even medieval Serbia. Your people was mentioned as Bulgar or Rashka part of the Great Horde and I can provide you with evidence. Also never mention word “ancient” as there are no written documents of earlier than 11 century. Before 17 century only one state existed on this planet and it was the Great Horde. In 15 century it became too big to be ruled from one place so the semi-autonomous part of it was established in the south. It’s capitol was occupied by the Slavs since 1261. But in 1453 one Slav army (of Veliki Novgorod) attacked the other Slav army(of Constantinople) and seized the city. Both sides were headed by people of the same Rurik (Рюриковичи) Dynasty. Later this part of the world was called the Great Porta or the Ottoman Porta. Words TURK, OSMAN, OTTOMAN (=ATAMAN) were not used in Europe before 19 century. For the Europeans it all was the Great Horde that colonized 100% of the continent in 14-16 centuries. Before 19 century Serbs like all other Balkan peoples were the colonists. Constantinople called so by Dmitry Donskoy after himself was attacked by the Great Horde from the Balkans and this is why they called it Stan Bulgarski (Stanbul) and Serbs always made the elite of the Osmans. Old Serbian language was literate all over the continent and the church prayers we use today were written on this language.
Dragoljub : “persecuted all the native North American Indian people!”
Brother in my country thousands of scientists, blogger, journalists step by step reveal the real history. Sooner or later the new Russian vision will become dominant in the world because the truth is on our side. And if for instance you ask yourself what India means and why there were so many Indias? What people was present in all those places ? How came that the white people who merely make 7,5% of the mankind achieved so much? How came that small Portugal with 7 mln people gave colonies with 250 mln of the WHITE SKINS now? Same with Spain … How came that in 1494 Portugal and a Spanish province divided the whole world and nobody questioned about their Inter Caetera? How came that in 1812 in the USA and in Russia two parallel wars were launched both called the PATRIOTIC? How came that the USA rushed to the west only after Pugachev's head was cut off in Moscow ? What a strange independence war it was in the USA when during 8 years they merely had 8 battles? Why the Confederates had the Russian Andreevsly Flag? How came that Indian leader Tecumseh from Ohaio was a red skin while general Sherman Tecumseh also from Ohaio was WHITE ? I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
As everybody in the West knows by now, Russia is flooding western papers with comments producd by paid internet trolls. One of the main target countries is Serbia, the US and Germany. Putin and his little helpers are trying to influence peoples opinion in the West, infuse a virus of hate, and anti-western sentiment. The entire project is part of the Russian desinformation war, financed directly by the Russian government.
[link]
Any major paper in the west has reported about it, but Serbia has been very quite about this so far, even it is one of the main targets in this propaganda war. The russian intrest is to to influence western societies with pro russian propaganda, lies and hate, and to cause disruption in western societies. Looking at the people who regularly leave comments on B92, I am 100% sure that Dragoljub Djurkovic is one of these paid mercanarries. Even his comments are dumb and for somebody who sees through them even funny because of their absurdity, they always have the same theme: Great "mother Russia" and Serbia belong together, the west is evil, and only Russia is good. No person in his or her right mind can be so blind to believe this russian troll propaganda.
Hey LK, modern day Serbs? I am only saying that the USA has a lot of experiance doing mass murder, look at the world and see how many nations bombed and their people and leaders exterminated! The goal of the USA is to dictate and impose their version of world order, that means all other nations that walk a different path will suffer the consequences! What are the plans for Russia? Is the USA not interested in vast Russian mineral deposits? How can the USA get it's evil filty hands on all the minerals that is within Russian territory? How about all the minerals within Kosovo, is the USA not interested in that? Look at the mass murder and displacement of Serbian people from Dalmatinska Krajina, Bosna Herzegovina and Kosovo in the last twenty or so years, who really is at the bottom of it all, the root problem? So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire and today we are Slaves of the USA, England and Germany! But in reality the ring leader is the USA, the Beast! Especially look at the faces of all USA presidents begining 1980, not men only evil monsters! Actors and filty rich satanist who love wealth and power over God! What town am I from, Malo Kosovo, right accross from the rail road station just south of Knin. Pokoj Dobicu Dusi Kad Srbin Vise Ne Bude Rob!!!
Stop the propaganda. There was no tear gas at all. Handful of VV (self determination ass holes ) were protesting and nothing more to report. Where does Serb media get the energy to report such lies???
Good job to the Italian KFOR soldiers and normal Albanian KPS protecting normal Serbs from Albanian savages. Next time, let there be six buses not three.
Very hostile conditions for Christian Eastern Orthodox Serbian people who are still living or visiting Kosovo! The USA is very determined to expell Eastern Orthodox Christianity from Kosovo! The USA, big gun of the world is mostly to blame for the murder and disection of Serbia! Serbian cival leaders commenting in the news media that refugies from the Middle East and Africa should be relocated to rural areas of Serbia but who ever mentions the poor Serbian people who lost all their homes and lands in Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Dalmatinska Krajina? What about all those Serbian people who were and are continuing to become displaced from their ancient home lands, where will they live and how will they survive? We all can see the reality, with the USA backing Islam and the Vatican all Serbian people are being driven out of Kosovo, Dalmatinska Krajina and Bosnia-Herzegovina! So that is the reality, what Serbian can continue to live under the conditions of Hell, the USA has good experiance and knowledge on this tactic, just look how they treated and persecuted all the native North American Indian people! So since the 1990's lets call it a very silent Serbian Holocast, Satan slowly draining all the blood out of Serbia!
There'll be justice only when those albanian savages will be sent back to Albania and a wall will be built to protect Kosovo and Metohija from their underdeveloped civilization.
There'll be justice only when those albanian savages will be sent back to Albania and a wall will be built to protect Kosovo and Metohija from their underdeveloped civilization.
Good job to the Italian KFOR soldiers and normal Albanian KPS protecting normal Serbs from Albanian savages. Next time, let there be six buses not three.
Very hostile conditions for Christian Eastern Orthodox Serbian people who are still living or visiting Kosovo! The USA is very determined to expell Eastern Orthodox Christianity from Kosovo! The USA, big gun of the world is mostly to blame for the murder and disection of Serbia! Serbian cival leaders commenting in the news media that refugies from the Middle East and Africa should be relocated to rural areas of Serbia but who ever mentions the poor Serbian people who lost all their homes and lands in Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Dalmatinska Krajina? What about all those Serbian people who were and are continuing to become displaced from their ancient home lands, where will they live and how will they survive? We all can see the reality, with the USA backing Islam and the Vatican all Serbian people are being driven out of Kosovo, Dalmatinska Krajina and Bosnia-Herzegovina! So that is the reality, what Serbian can continue to live under the conditions of Hell, the USA has good experiance and knowledge on this tactic, just look how they treated and persecuted all the native North American Indian people! So since the 1990's lets call it a very silent Serbian Holocast, Satan slowly draining all the blood out of Serbia!
As everybody in the West knows by now, Russia is flooding western papers with comments producd by paid internet trolls. One of the main target countries is Serbia, the US and Germany. Putin and his little helpers are trying to influence peoples opinion in the West, infuse a virus of hate, and anti-western sentiment. The entire project is part of the Russian desinformation war, financed directly by the Russian government.
[link]
Any major paper in the west has reported about it, but Serbia has been very quite about this so far, even it is one of the main targets in this propaganda war. The russian intrest is to to influence western societies with pro russian propaganda, lies and hate, and to cause disruption in western societies. Looking at the people who regularly leave comments on B92, I am 100% sure that Dragoljub Djurkovic is one of these paid mercanarries. Even his comments are dumb and for somebody who sees through them even funny because of their absurdity, they always have the same theme: Great "mother Russia" and Serbia belong together, the west is evil, and only Russia is good. No person in his or her right mind can be so blind to believe this russian troll propaganda.
Stop the propaganda. There was no tear gas at all. Handful of VV (self determination ass holes ) were protesting and nothing more to report. Where does Serb media get the energy to report such lies???
Hey LK, modern day Serbs? I am only saying that the USA has a lot of experiance doing mass murder, look at the world and see how many nations bombed and their people and leaders exterminated! The goal of the USA is to dictate and impose their version of world order, that means all other nations that walk a different path will suffer the consequences! What are the plans for Russia? Is the USA not interested in vast Russian mineral deposits? How can the USA get it's evil filty hands on all the minerals that is within Russian territory? How about all the minerals within Kosovo, is the USA not interested in that? Look at the mass murder and displacement of Serbian people from Dalmatinska Krajina, Bosna Herzegovina and Kosovo in the last twenty or so years, who really is at the bottom of it all, the root problem? So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire and today we are Slaves of the USA, England and Germany! But in reality the ring leader is the USA, the Beast! Especially look at the faces of all USA presidents begining 1980, not men only evil monsters! Actors and filty rich satanist who love wealth and power over God! What town am I from, Malo Kosovo, right accross from the rail road station just south of Knin. Pokoj Dobicu Dusi Kad Srbin Vise Ne Bude Rob!!!
I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
(rote, 28 August 2015 17:19)
WARNING, you are not hallucinating.
I submit this as evidence there are many mentally ill people in a collapsing Russia in need of psychiatric help. This poor soul, rote along with Dragolujb, Ataman, Ari Gold and many others are suffering from a neurosis initiated by Putin's surreal dictatorship. In Russia, pseudo intellectuals are recruited and paid by Putin to rewrite history. In Saint Petersburg, alone, there exists an institution on its outskirts where anti-social misfits are paid, rather poorly, by the Russian government to flood the internet with bizarre anti-Western misinformation. As an example, our friend rote, not long ago, wrote on B92 that Christ was born in the 14th century and the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar, who perished there, was actually Christ and Vuk Brankovic his Judas. Need I say more. I state this to give relief to any new participants on B92 who may have thought, incorrectly, they were delirious. In any event, welcome to rote's padded cell in cyberspace.
God help the Serbian people and normal Albanians from these savages.
(Ari Gold, 28 August 2015 16:17)
Ari Gold, are you including stupid Serbian people in your wish too? I am not asking for criminal Serbian people, because they do not exist in your mind.
The Serbs in question, who had been driven out of their homes in Djakovica?
I don't think so they were driven out but 99.9% of them they used to be involved in all the crimes in Gjakova look the facts ask some question because everyone know everyone by name at that time in Gjakova im not saying after the war because he whole villages they move in the city before they wasn't villager as they are now and was one street called Serbian street and some Montenegrin on the other side of the city and how come those who never did and yes they will be able to go over there if they didn't do nothing or being involved in any crime trust me the people there do know same as Serbian who used to work specially for the post office they have the most crucial info were important people live before they will killed by serbian force and yes that did happen in Gjakova I don't think so Serbian do know really what happen in that city and what was the plan to happen if Italian contingent didn't stop over there on the way when they were going in the city of peja(PEC) when KFOR START TO MOVE IN so people get the fact before you talk BS..
Dragoljub : “So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire”
There was no ancient or even medieval Serbia. Your people was mentioned as Bulgar or Rashka part of the Great Horde and I can provide you with evidence. Also never mention word “ancient” as there are no written documents of earlier than 11 century. Before 17 century only one state existed on this planet and it was the Great Horde. In 15 century it became too big to be ruled from one place so the semi-autonomous part of it was established in the south. It’s capitol was occupied by the Slavs since 1261. But in 1453 one Slav army (of Veliki Novgorod) attacked the other Slav army(of Constantinople) and seized the city. Both sides were headed by people of the same Rurik (Рюриковичи) Dynasty. Later this part of the world was called the Great Porta or the Ottoman Porta. Words TURK, OSMAN, OTTOMAN (=ATAMAN) were not used in Europe before 19 century. For the Europeans it all was the Great Horde that colonized 100% of the continent in 14-16 centuries. Before 19 century Serbs like all other Balkan peoples were the colonists. Constantinople called so by Dmitry Donskoy after himself was attacked by the Great Horde from the Balkans and this is why they called it Stan Bulgarski (Stanbul) and Serbs always made the elite of the Osmans. Old Serbian language was literate all over the continent and the church prayers we use today were written on this language.
Dragoljub : “persecuted all the native North American Indian people!”
Brother in my country thousands of scientists, blogger, journalists step by step reveal the real history. Sooner or later the new Russian vision will become dominant in the world because the truth is on our side. And if for instance you ask yourself what India means and why there were so many Indias? What people was present in all those places ? How came that the white people who merely make 7,5% of the mankind achieved so much? How came that small Portugal with 7 mln people gave colonies with 250 mln of the WHITE SKINS now? Same with Spain … How came that in 1494 Portugal and a Spanish province divided the whole world and nobody questioned about their Inter Caetera? How came that in 1812 in the USA and in Russia two parallel wars were launched both called the PATRIOTIC? How came that the USA rushed to the west only after Pugachev's head was cut off in Moscow ? What a strange independence war it was in the USA when during 8 years they merely had 8 battles? Why the Confederates had the Russian Andreevsly Flag? How came that Indian leader Tecumseh from Ohaio was a red skin while general Sherman Tecumseh also from Ohaio was WHITE ? I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
Dragoljub Djurkovic, your anger at the US is understandable. You have every right to excoriate the US for its past and ongoing role in the injustices being committed against the Serbian people. And indeed the US has a lot of blood on its hands from its role in international conflicts. But we are a very young country, the last piece of territory to become a state was Hawaii in 1959 and many natives would still like it to be an independent country. The role of the US in the destruction of native American peoples was only secondary. Most native Americans were already undergoing extermination before even the British colonies. You must include South and Central America among native Americans. Compare the Conquistadors with the Pilgrims and others fleeing religious persecution in Imperial England. The original religious groups most instrumental in founding the colonies that later fought for independence to form the US are largely extinct themselves.
rote said: "...I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built..."
Damn you rote, you are so smart.
I always thought Jesus was Albanian like every other known world figure.
Now I am sad as you totally burst my bubble with your rant.
Can you clarify also if Jesus was fighting in the battle of Kosovo on Lazar's side (aka Jesus itself) or Murad's (aka Juda himself)? I always had this feeling that also Pristina meant Jerusalem, but could never prove it.
All such occasions are an opportunity for those in the region to show others (notably the EU to which they aspire to join) that they understand the process of reconciliation. Once more the test has been failed. These believers are an easy target for the understandable anger of Albanians who suffered nearly 20 years ago but they were not responsible for the atrocities and should be allowed to go about their worship free from intimidation. The authorities seem to have reacted well to protect the Serbs but the fact that they had to do so is disturbing and of course costs money that is in very short supply. Many people around the world have suffered dreadful treatment at the hands of their fellow citizens but have found it in themselves to get on with life. Look at black South Africans who now live among their erstwhile white 'masters' with very little problem, certainly not of the type experienced in Kosovo. The economy and inclusivity are key to the healing process; people with jobs have little interest in causing trouble and do not usually have the time to do so.
The Count : “rote ... wrote ... that Christ was born in the 14th century …”
Pussy you know that I am very sceptic about the official history of every state. I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built. The other one is the main church of Russia. Mother Mary died in Crimea where she ran to after 1185 when Jesus was killed in Jerusalem on Yoros hill (Yoros kalesi) near Istanbul. Maybe His grave is here ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua%27s_Hill
Mother Mary is buried in the cave church near Chufut Kale. The world famous Uspensky Monastery was built here at her death place. Jesus (as it is said in Bible) belonged to the David family. But it was David Rosteslavsky (see Drevo Issevo in Kosovo monateries) the Kniaz of Smolensk from the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty. Jesus spent some 30 years of his life in Russia as Andrey Bogolubsky and some 3 years in Jerusalem as Andronik I Komnin. He was the Great Kniaz of the Rus Fema of the Byzantine and then the Emperor of the Byzantine. The fake Jerusalem in the stone desert of Africa wasn’t marked at any ancient or medieval map as it was built only in 19 century. No Bible have events took place here and the Jews confess it quite openly. The world war of 1856 is called now Crimean but in mid-19 century everybody in Europe and Russia called it WAR FOR THE LORD’S CRADDLE AND THE BETHLEHEM STAR. Why should they?
carpe diem : “Rote stop peddling your retarded theories here please.”
OK Google tell me please how came that Rome city was built in 1-3 centuries AC while the oldest buildings here belong to 14 century and in Vatican to 15 century ? How came that in the “capitol of the Empire” no new buildings were constructed along 1000 years ? How came that the Vatican buildings were built exactly during the siege of Constantinople by “the Turks” ? How can it be that in the “ancient” Rome the oldest buildings are some 600-700 years old only while the Coliseum is less than 200 years old only ? How came that there are no documents or coins or any other artefacts from the so called Dark Ages between III and IX centuries ? How came that we have no original documents about almost anything earlier of 17 centuries while what we are offered as ancient or medieval sources were always OBTAINED in the west and in 17-19 centuries only ? What evidence do you have that the famous Efes found in Turkey in 1967 is the real Efes or the “Viminacium” near Belgrade isn’t something else ? Was it written there? How came that the Bronze Age was earlier than the Iron Age if iron is 10 times easier to make while bronze components cannot be found in one region outside Russia and Brazil? To say nothing that tin was first melt in 16 century. Tell me how the Romans fought with their short tin-made swords for 600 years ? How could Ramzes II have a steel dagger (with the Abesquies!)in his hand ?
The C*unt : “ rote … wrote the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar ...”
Good joke !
I think that the battle of 1389 was for real while other 7 battles as if happened here were fake ones. Maybe some of them reflected real battles that took place in other regions. What I insist is that the battle of 1389 was an internal matter of the Great Horde. It was one of the several great battles of the Disaster (Smuta) Times that lasted since 1370 till 1415. There were no Turks at that times yet because Turka was the name of the first rifles that replaced the muskets only in 18 century. The Swede and some other Europeans called the Russians troops with such rifles as Turks but it mostly happened in 19 century while before that words Osmans. Ottomans or Turks were not used in Europe. Instead they used the Great Horde, Great Porta, Ottoman Porta ect. I don’t know on which of the two Russian sides the Serbians and other Balkan peoples fought but it was a civil war in any case. And if you trace what the Serbians leaders were doing during the battle you will find many strange things. Some of them disappeared while both sides abandoned the battlefield. All because it was a religious conflict over introducing the Apostle Christianity by Dmitry Donskoy (Constantine I the Great) in 1370. As you know he was killed in Kosovo as Murad I. Before that it was Royal Christianity of the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty to where Jesus belonged.
When the next UNSC report about Kosovo will, as usual, speak about the 'progress made': Now the Albanian mob doesn't use stones any more to throw at Serbs and their vehicles and buses, but firecracker instead.
Well I'm glad that debate is over, as 'everybody knows'! Pity about supplying anything beyond scraping the barrel evidence, the kind that is exploited to say destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. all with the full backing of the western corporate media.
P.S. I've got some chemical weapons to sell you I got of a bloke from Iraq I know. He's also got a mate from Libya who wants to sell some too who also knows a guy from Syria. It's true. Believe it, because 'everyone knows'!
Stop the propaganda. There was no tear gas at all. Handful of VV (self determination ass holes ) were protesting and nothing more to report. Where does Serb media get the energy to report such lies???
There'll be justice only when those albanian savages will be sent back to Albania and a wall will be built to protect Kosovo and Metohija from their underdeveloped civilization.
As everybody in the West knows by now, Russia is flooding western papers with comments producd by paid internet trolls. One of the main target countries is Serbia, the US and Germany. Putin and his little helpers are trying to influence peoples opinion in the West, infuse a virus of hate, and anti-western sentiment. The entire project is part of the Russian desinformation war, financed directly by the Russian government.
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Any major paper in the west has reported about it, but Serbia has been very quite about this so far, even it is one of the main targets in this propaganda war. The russian intrest is to to influence western societies with pro russian propaganda, lies and hate, and to cause disruption in western societies. Looking at the people who regularly leave comments on B92, I am 100% sure that Dragoljub Djurkovic is one of these paid mercanarries. Even his comments are dumb and for somebody who sees through them even funny because of their absurdity, they always have the same theme: Great "mother Russia" and Serbia belong together, the west is evil, and only Russia is good. No person in his or her right mind can be so blind to believe this russian troll propaganda.
Very hostile conditions for Christian Eastern Orthodox Serbian people who are still living or visiting Kosovo! The USA is very determined to expell Eastern Orthodox Christianity from Kosovo! The USA, big gun of the world is mostly to blame for the murder and disection of Serbia! Serbian cival leaders commenting in the news media that refugies from the Middle East and Africa should be relocated to rural areas of Serbia but who ever mentions the poor Serbian people who lost all their homes and lands in Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Dalmatinska Krajina? What about all those Serbian people who were and are continuing to become displaced from their ancient home lands, where will they live and how will they survive? We all can see the reality, with the USA backing Islam and the Vatican all Serbian people are being driven out of Kosovo, Dalmatinska Krajina and Bosnia-Herzegovina! So that is the reality, what Serbian can continue to live under the conditions of Hell, the USA has good experiance and knowledge on this tactic, just look how they treated and persecuted all the native North American Indian people! So since the 1990's lets call it a very silent Serbian Holocast, Satan slowly draining all the blood out of Serbia!
Dragoljub : “So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire”
There was no ancient or even medieval Serbia. Your people was mentioned as Bulgar or Rashka part of the Great Horde and I can provide you with evidence. Also never mention word “ancient” as there are no written documents of earlier than 11 century. Before 17 century only one state existed on this planet and it was the Great Horde. In 15 century it became too big to be ruled from one place so the semi-autonomous part of it was established in the south. It’s capitol was occupied by the Slavs since 1261. But in 1453 one Slav army (of Veliki Novgorod) attacked the other Slav army(of Constantinople) and seized the city. Both sides were headed by people of the same Rurik (Рюриковичи) Dynasty. Later this part of the world was called the Great Porta or the Ottoman Porta. Words TURK, OSMAN, OTTOMAN (=ATAMAN) were not used in Europe before 19 century. For the Europeans it all was the Great Horde that colonized 100% of the continent in 14-16 centuries. Before 19 century Serbs like all other Balkan peoples were the colonists. Constantinople called so by Dmitry Donskoy after himself was attacked by the Great Horde from the Balkans and this is why they called it Stan Bulgarski (Stanbul) and Serbs always made the elite of the Osmans. Old Serbian language was literate all over the continent and the church prayers we use today were written on this language.
Good job to the Italian KFOR soldiers and normal Albanian KPS protecting normal Serbs from Albanian savages. Next time, let there be six buses not three.
Hey LK, modern day Serbs? I am only saying that the USA has a lot of experiance doing mass murder, look at the world and see how many nations bombed and their people and leaders exterminated! The goal of the USA is to dictate and impose their version of world order, that means all other nations that walk a different path will suffer the consequences! What are the plans for Russia? Is the USA not interested in vast Russian mineral deposits? How can the USA get it's evil filty hands on all the minerals that is within Russian territory? How about all the minerals within Kosovo, is the USA not interested in that? Look at the mass murder and displacement of Serbian people from Dalmatinska Krajina, Bosna Herzegovina and Kosovo in the last twenty or so years, who really is at the bottom of it all, the root problem? So the difference between modern and ancient Serbia, well before we were the slaves of the Ottoman Empire and today we are Slaves of the USA, England and Germany! But in reality the ring leader is the USA, the Beast! Especially look at the faces of all USA presidents begining 1980, not men only evil monsters! Actors and filty rich satanist who love wealth and power over God! What town am I from, Malo Kosovo, right accross from the rail road station just south of Knin. Pokoj Dobicu Dusi Kad Srbin Vise Ne Bude Rob!!!
I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
(rote, 28 August 2015 17:19)
WARNING, you are not hallucinating.
I submit this as evidence there are many mentally ill people in a collapsing Russia in need of psychiatric help. This poor soul, rote along with Dragolujb, Ataman, Ari Gold and many others are suffering from a neurosis initiated by Putin's surreal dictatorship. In Russia, pseudo intellectuals are recruited and paid by Putin to rewrite history. In Saint Petersburg, alone, there exists an institution on its outskirts where anti-social misfits are paid, rather poorly, by the Russian government to flood the internet with bizarre anti-Western misinformation. As an example, our friend rote, not long ago, wrote on B92 that Christ was born in the 14th century and the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar, who perished there, was actually Christ and Vuk Brankovic his Judas. Need I say more. I state this to give relief to any new participants on B92 who may have thought, incorrectly, they were delirious. In any event, welcome to rote's padded cell in cyberspace.
Dragoljub : “persecuted all the native North American Indian people!”
Brother in my country thousands of scientists, blogger, journalists step by step reveal the real history. Sooner or later the new Russian vision will become dominant in the world because the truth is on our side. And if for instance you ask yourself what India means and why there were so many Indias? What people was present in all those places ? How came that the white people who merely make 7,5% of the mankind achieved so much? How came that small Portugal with 7 mln people gave colonies with 250 mln of the WHITE SKINS now? Same with Spain … How came that in 1494 Portugal and a Spanish province divided the whole world and nobody questioned about their Inter Caetera? How came that in 1812 in the USA and in Russia two parallel wars were launched both called the PATRIOTIC? How came that the USA rushed to the west only after Pugachev's head was cut off in Moscow ? What a strange independence war it was in the USA when during 8 years they merely had 8 battles? Why the Confederates had the Russian Andreevsly Flag? How came that Indian leader Tecumseh from Ohaio was a red skin while general Sherman Tecumseh also from Ohaio was WHITE ? I can put hundreds of such questions but the short of it was that they killed not Indians but millions of the Russian Cossacks who owed both Americas. It all happened in 17-19 centuries and there were no conquistadors in 15-16 centuries as they say.
God help the Serbian people and normal Albanians from these savages.
(Ari Gold, 28 August 2015 16:17)
Ari Gold, are you including stupid Serbian people in your wish too? I am not asking for criminal Serbian people, because they do not exist in your mind.
The Count : “rote ... wrote ... that Christ was born in the 14th century …”
Pussy you know that I am very sceptic about the official history of every state. I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built. The other one is the main church of Russia. Mother Mary died in Crimea where she ran to after 1185 when Jesus was killed in Jerusalem on Yoros hill (Yoros kalesi) near Istanbul. Maybe His grave is here ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua%27s_Hill
Mother Mary is buried in the cave church near Chufut Kale. The world famous Uspensky Monastery was built here at her death place. Jesus (as it is said in Bible) belonged to the David family. But it was David Rosteslavsky (see Drevo Issevo in Kosovo monateries) the Kniaz of Smolensk from the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty. Jesus spent some 30 years of his life in Russia as Andrey Bogolubsky and some 3 years in Jerusalem as Andronik I Komnin. He was the Great Kniaz of the Rus Fema of the Byzantine and then the Emperor of the Byzantine. The fake Jerusalem in the stone desert of Africa wasn’t marked at any ancient or medieval map as it was built only in 19 century. No Bible have events took place here and the Jews confess it quite openly. The world war of 1856 is called now Crimean but in mid-19 century everybody in Europe and Russia called it WAR FOR THE LORD’S CRADDLE AND THE BETHLEHEM STAR. Why should they?
The Serbs in question, who had been driven out of their homes in Djakovica?
I don't think so they were driven out but 99.9% of them they used to be involved in all the crimes in Gjakova look the facts ask some question because everyone know everyone by name at that time in Gjakova im not saying after the war because he whole villages they move in the city before they wasn't villager as they are now and was one street called Serbian street and some Montenegrin on the other side of the city and how come those who never did and yes they will be able to go over there if they didn't do nothing or being involved in any crime trust me the people there do know same as Serbian who used to work specially for the post office they have the most crucial info were important people live before they will killed by serbian force and yes that did happen in Gjakova I don't think so Serbian do know really what happen in that city and what was the plan to happen if Italian contingent didn't stop over there on the way when they were going in the city of peja(PEC) when KFOR START TO MOVE IN so people get the fact before you talk BS..
All such occasions are an opportunity for those in the region to show others (notably the EU to which they aspire to join) that they understand the process of reconciliation. Once more the test has been failed. These believers are an easy target for the understandable anger of Albanians who suffered nearly 20 years ago but they were not responsible for the atrocities and should be allowed to go about their worship free from intimidation. The authorities seem to have reacted well to protect the Serbs but the fact that they had to do so is disturbing and of course costs money that is in very short supply. Many people around the world have suffered dreadful treatment at the hands of their fellow citizens but have found it in themselves to get on with life. Look at black South Africans who now live among their erstwhile white 'masters' with very little problem, certainly not of the type experienced in Kosovo. The economy and inclusivity are key to the healing process; people with jobs have little interest in causing trouble and do not usually have the time to do so.
Dragoljub Djurkovic, your anger at the US is understandable. You have every right to excoriate the US for its past and ongoing role in the injustices being committed against the Serbian people. And indeed the US has a lot of blood on its hands from its role in international conflicts. But we are a very young country, the last piece of territory to become a state was Hawaii in 1959 and many natives would still like it to be an independent country. The role of the US in the destruction of native American peoples was only secondary. Most native Americans were already undergoing extermination before even the British colonies. You must include South and Central America among native Americans. Compare the Conquistadors with the Pilgrims and others fleeing religious persecution in Imperial England. The original religious groups most instrumental in founding the colonies that later fought for independence to form the US are largely extinct themselves.
carpe diem : “Rote stop peddling your retarded theories here please.”
OK Google tell me please how came that Rome city was built in 1-3 centuries AC while the oldest buildings here belong to 14 century and in Vatican to 15 century ? How came that in the “capitol of the Empire” no new buildings were constructed along 1000 years ? How came that the Vatican buildings were built exactly during the siege of Constantinople by “the Turks” ? How can it be that in the “ancient” Rome the oldest buildings are some 600-700 years old only while the Coliseum is less than 200 years old only ? How came that there are no documents or coins or any other artefacts from the so called Dark Ages between III and IX centuries ? How came that we have no original documents about almost anything earlier of 17 centuries while what we are offered as ancient or medieval sources were always OBTAINED in the west and in 17-19 centuries only ? What evidence do you have that the famous Efes found in Turkey in 1967 is the real Efes or the “Viminacium” near Belgrade isn’t something else ? Was it written there? How came that the Bronze Age was earlier than the Iron Age if iron is 10 times easier to make while bronze components cannot be found in one region outside Russia and Brazil? To say nothing that tin was first melt in 16 century. Tell me how the Romans fought with their short tin-made swords for 600 years ? How could Ramzes II have a steel dagger (with the Abesquies!)in his hand ?
The C*unt : “ rote … wrote the Battle of Kosovo was where the Crucifixion took place and Serbian Prince Lazar ...”
Good joke !
I think that the battle of 1389 was for real while other 7 battles as if happened here were fake ones. Maybe some of them reflected real battles that took place in other regions. What I insist is that the battle of 1389 was an internal matter of the Great Horde. It was one of the several great battles of the Disaster (Smuta) Times that lasted since 1370 till 1415. There were no Turks at that times yet because Turka was the name of the first rifles that replaced the muskets only in 18 century. The Swede and some other Europeans called the Russians troops with such rifles as Turks but it mostly happened in 19 century while before that words Osmans. Ottomans or Turks were not used in Europe. Instead they used the Great Horde, Great Porta, Ottoman Porta ect. I don’t know on which of the two Russian sides the Serbians and other Balkan peoples fought but it was a civil war in any case. And if you trace what the Serbians leaders were doing during the battle you will find many strange things. Some of them disappeared while both sides abandoned the battlefield. All because it was a religious conflict over introducing the Apostle Christianity by Dmitry Donskoy (Constantine I the Great) in 1370. As you know he was killed in Kosovo as Murad I. Before that it was Royal Christianity of the ruling Rurikovic Dynasty to where Jesus belonged.
When the next UNSC report about Kosovo will, as usual, speak about the 'progress made': Now the Albanian mob doesn't use stones any more to throw at Serbs and their vehicles and buses, but firecracker instead.
Well I'm glad that debate is over, as 'everybody knows'! Pity about supplying anything beyond scraping the barrel evidence, the kind that is exploited to say destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. all with the full backing of the western corporate media.
P.S. I've got some chemical weapons to sell you I got of a bloke from Iraq I know. He's also got a mate from Libya who wants to sell some too who also knows a guy from Syria. It's true. Believe it, because 'everyone knows'!
rote said: "...I really believe that Jesus was born in Fiolent of Crimea in 1152 and that in Chuft Kale of Crimea in the cave where the first Christ Birth Church was built..."
Damn you rote, you are so smart.
I always thought Jesus was Albanian like every other known world figure.
Now I am sad as you totally burst my bubble with your rant.
Can you clarify also if Jesus was fighting in the battle of Kosovo on Lazar's side (aka Jesus itself) or Murad's (aka Juda himself)? I always had this feeling that also Pristina meant Jerusalem, but could never prove it.
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