One spark could ignite whole region - PM

Who is the one who ethnically cleansed 1/3 of Croatia, forcibly expelled hundreds of thousands non-Serbs, who destroyed and looted Croatian homes, business, churches and cultural institutions? Operation Storm corrected a massive injustice and crime against Croatians and other non Serbs. Operation Storm with only 44 direct serb casualities and serb evacuation of its own people is very different from the horrific and criminal activities Serb conducted in Croatia that necessitated a liberation of Croatian land and repatriated it's citizens back to their legitimate homes. Croatia conducted a legitimate and clean military operation which it had right to reclaim it's borders. Vucic is dishonest and simply spreading lies and myth to achieve his goal of a Greater Serbia. Journalists are simply propaganda machines who don't question or provide context...such as why Operation Storm happened was because Croatian territory was under occupation and its people expelled; a generous peace plan called Z4 that would have given Serbs autonomy within Croatia was rejected. What would any other country do in Croatia's place?

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Great attitude

Alois Irlmeyer(dead 1959), a Bavarian seer has predicted -

" A War will suddenly flare up in the Mideast but,
the real spark will come in the Balkans " !.

Comment -

That is a War in bouth places at the samwe time.
That has never taken place as yet.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

Factman: I worked in counter terrorism in BiH for a State Commission and I can tell you that this issue is greatly over stated. We are back to that old chestnut, evidence. The commission, which dealt with evidence and facts rather than rumour and suspicion (your on line name would suggest that you prefer facts), found only two people of serious concern from 1500 granted citizenship during the 1990s, the group most likely to include terrorists and radicals. Yes, there are a couple of well known villages where an extreme strand of Islam is preached but they are under permanent watch. I suspect that Vucic was referring to other things as had he been speaking about terrorism he would surely have said so. He was talking about a spark that could ignite the region, which to me indicates historic animosities not Wahhabism of Salafism.

I'm surprised that Vucic believes that the biggest problem is "the situation in BiH". Clearly the economy there, as elsewhere in the Balkans, is underperforming but there are no special reasons to believe that BiH will ignite this spark that he refers to. I would have thought that Kosovo and the growing migrant crisis are far bigger issues to confront.

Sparks can not start a fire on their own if there is no fuel for the fire. It simply falls and quickly burns out.

sunman... 1/3... really... that's what you're gonna stick with?
-- Some estimates include 220,000 Croats and 300,000 Serbs internally displaced for the duration of the war in Croatia

math isn't your strongest subject perhaps...
220K into 4M is 1/2 of 1/3 of 1/3 (~5%)... if you wish to include the serb population in those estimates its 1/3 of 1/3 (~10%)

feel free to discuss realities, but don't make up numbers that are so far fetched to support your argument. there was validity in there, but its all for naught as your opening point hasn't been able to see validity in the rear view mirror for a very long time now

I should add that use of the Zvornik incident as growing evidence of a terrorist threat is entirely misleading. This was a personal incident where the killer identified the son of the person whom he held responsible for this father's death in 1992 and murdered him. The idea of terrorism is to put fear (or terror) into others, this incident was not intended to do so but to kill a specific individual, albeit others got caught up in the cross fire. The dreadful murder in the US yesterday was a targeted killing of two people representing an organisation against whom the killer had a grudge and was as much 'terrorism' as the Zvornik incident. The fact that the killer in BiH shouted Allah u Akbar doesn't categorise the murder as terrorism. This incident has been misused for political means and starts to become a 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. Targeting real terrorism should be a priority for all governments, not trying to bolster the statistics and one's own argument with spurious claims.

Intelligence agencies both in BiH and elsewhere are aware of those who have travelled to Iraq and Syria and ensuring that these people do not carry out attacks upon their return will take up a lot of resources which therefore cannot be wasted on non- terrorist activity.

Ned,

Bosnia has numerous people who are radicals and/ or on terrorist watch lists.

See link:

http://natocouncil.ca/is-bosnia-and-herzegovina-a-growing-terrorist-threat/

One spark like Djuric saying "Serbia : Kosovo 5:0". This guy talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. He's surrounded by dummies.

Who is the one who ethnically cleansed 1/3 of Croatia, forcibly expelled hundreds of thousands non-Serbs, who destroyed and looted Croatian homes, business, churches and cultural institutions? Operation Storm corrected a massive injustice and crime against Croatians and other non Serbs. Operation Storm with only 44 direct serb casualities and serb evacuation of its own people is very different from the horrific and criminal activities Serb conducted in Croatia that necessitated a liberation of Croatian land and repatriated it's citizens back to their legitimate homes. Croatia conducted a legitimate and clean military operation which it had right to reclaim it's borders. Vucic is dishonest and simply spreading lies and myth to achieve his goal of a Greater Serbia. Journalists are simply propaganda machines who don't question or provide context...such as why Operation Storm happened was because Croatian territory was under occupation and its people expelled; a generous peace plan called Z4 that would have given Serbs autonomy within Croatia was rejected. What would any other country do in Croatia's place?

Alois Irlmeyer(dead 1959), a Bavarian seer has predicted -

" A War will suddenly flare up in the Mideast but,
the real spark will come in the Balkans " !.

Comment -

That is a War in bouth places at the samwe time.
That has never taken place as yet.

Spremte se Spremte !.

Arn.Sweden.

sunman... 1/3... really... that's what you're gonna stick with?
-- Some estimates include 220,000 Croats and 300,000 Serbs internally displaced for the duration of the war in Croatia

math isn't your strongest subject perhaps...
220K into 4M is 1/2 of 1/3 of 1/3 (~5%)... if you wish to include the serb population in those estimates its 1/3 of 1/3 (~10%)

feel free to discuss realities, but don't make up numbers that are so far fetched to support your argument. there was validity in there, but its all for naught as your opening point hasn't been able to see validity in the rear view mirror for a very long time now

Ned,

Bosnia has numerous people who are radicals and/ or on terrorist watch lists.

See link:

http://natocouncil.ca/is-bosnia-and-herzegovina-a-growing-terrorist-threat/

Investors are welcome, but we do not need your money.

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Great attitude

I'm surprised that Vucic believes that the biggest problem is "the situation in BiH". Clearly the economy there, as elsewhere in the Balkans, is underperforming but there are no special reasons to believe that BiH will ignite this spark that he refers to. I would have thought that Kosovo and the growing migrant crisis are far bigger issues to confront.

Sparks can not start a fire on their own if there is no fuel for the fire. It simply falls and quickly burns out.

One spark like Djuric saying "Serbia : Kosovo 5:0". This guy talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. He's surrounded by dummies.

Factman: I worked in counter terrorism in BiH for a State Commission and I can tell you that this issue is greatly over stated. We are back to that old chestnut, evidence. The commission, which dealt with evidence and facts rather than rumour and suspicion (your on line name would suggest that you prefer facts), found only two people of serious concern from 1500 granted citizenship during the 1990s, the group most likely to include terrorists and radicals. Yes, there are a couple of well known villages where an extreme strand of Islam is preached but they are under permanent watch. I suspect that Vucic was referring to other things as had he been speaking about terrorism he would surely have said so. He was talking about a spark that could ignite the region, which to me indicates historic animosities not Wahhabism of Salafism.

I should add that use of the Zvornik incident as growing evidence of a terrorist threat is entirely misleading. This was a personal incident where the killer identified the son of the person whom he held responsible for this father's death in 1992 and murdered him. The idea of terrorism is to put fear (or terror) into others, this incident was not intended to do so but to kill a specific individual, albeit others got caught up in the cross fire. The dreadful murder in the US yesterday was a targeted killing of two people representing an organisation against whom the killer had a grudge and was as much 'terrorism' as the Zvornik incident. The fact that the killer in BiH shouted Allah u Akbar doesn't categorise the murder as terrorism. This incident has been misused for political means and starts to become a 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. Targeting real terrorism should be a priority for all governments, not trying to bolster the statistics and one's own argument with spurious claims.

Intelligence agencies both in BiH and elsewhere are aware of those who have travelled to Iraq and Syria and ensuring that these people do not carry out attacks upon their return will take up a lot of resources which therefore cannot be wasted on non- terrorist activity.