EU: Cyrillic issue in Vukovar not in our competence

Well Belgrade the EU sent you a very diplomatic response basically telling you to go f**k yourself. I hope you realize the EU Backs facist ideology as you clearly see what they are doing with you or even in the Ukraine. The EU is no place for Serbia turn to the East and stop looking to the west!

Typical eu crap. Serbia please don't join eu they just want to rule you. You guys are better off without them and their rules for one and rules for others.

Croatia doesn't care about human rights. It cares about its image. The more media attention is given to the pathological hatred of Serbs that exists in Croatia, the more stories like this are spread on social media, the more they will be pressurised to deal with the problem. Next stop the Court of Human Rights.

The other option is to go through the Council of Europe. Also, a claim can be filed with the European Court of Human Rights by individuals against Croatia under Article 14 of the ECHR.

Serbia should make the Croatian Consulate sign in Cyrillic only.

Whats good for the goosee, is also good for the gander.

They should make it today.

the Commission does not have a general legal competence in relation to minorities, especially in relation to the recognition of their status, their self-determination and autonomy...............SO Serbia should have no legal issue with the EU regarding its southern province of Kosovo then. Never join this fascist / corporate pyramid scheme Serbia!

So the European Commission has an opinion with Serbia taking part in military drills with Russia but has nothing to say, no opinion, no instruction against the removing of cryllic in Croatia.

They are just hiding behind empty talk. And that is why there is the European Court of Justice.

Typical prefabricated corporate response that both relieves the EU of any responsibility to act and indirectly puts pressure on the member state to take necessary measures under threat of more direct action by the ICJ.

Totally two faced and hypocritical.
The taking away of minority rights was the entire premise for the war in yugoslavia and now the EU is ssying they have no legal right even though minority tights is part of being admitted to the EU.

I have one suggestion for Serbia, take away minority languages since its ok for ukraine and croatia to do it. You will hear alot of condemnation from the EU/ US/ UK and the UN. Its basically bullying.

This is an interesting question that goes beyond Croatian/Serbian relations. A lot of towns across the EU have increasing numbers of non-native speakers with the continuing large displacements from Africa and the Middle East. What is the legitimate expectation of these minorities with regard to use of their own languages (or scripts) outside their own countries? It is difficult to 'protect' one small group of people without setting a precedent for everyone else and it is often this that holds the EU back from acting.
(ned taylor, 19 August 2015 13:43)
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Like I said before, there is always an excuse and you're the one who provides it.
If Serbia took away the right to use Albnaian in universities in the prodomenantly Albanian areas what would you say? What is the excuse of Albanians for wanting to secede for so long? Let me think, oh yes, they claim that Serbia took away the right to use their language among others. Did you have a comment on that?
You never disappoint.

This is an interesting question that goes beyond Croatian/Serbian relations. A lot of towns across the EU have increasing numbers of non-native speakers with the continuing large displacements from Africa and the Middle East. What is the legitimate expectation of these minorities with regard to use of their own languages (or scripts) outside their own countries? It is difficult to 'protect' one small group of people without setting a precedent for everyone else and it is often this that holds the EU back from acting.

Oh you Serbs and Serb sympathizers sure have a way with words. Human rights violations? Please. The reality is that Serbian and Croatian are the exact same language barring a number of lexicon differences and the exclusive usage of the Latin alphabet in Croatian. Serbian, however, uses both Latin and Cyrillic and every Serb alive today is capable of reading and writing in the same script Croats use. So what is the problem? The Serb minority in Vukovar is not being neglected of the services provided by their local government due to a language barrier because there is none.

What do the Germans say?

F.A. as usual. They like their dogs.

Peggy: There is a huge difference between restricting the use of a (spoken)language, which the EU would clamp down on very quickly under Article 3 of its constitution and refusing to put more than one script on a road sign, which does not fall within EU competence. All Serbs understand the Latin script so even though they may prefer to see their own script on these signs too, they are not being 'excluded' the same way that an Englishman would be if every sign in Wales was only in Welsh (they are in both languages). As for making excuses, if I was doing so in this case it was the EU not intervening that I was excusing not the actions of the Croats. Furthermore, my question about why all municipalities have banned Cyrillic was an open question to which I would like an answer, not an 'excuse' as you would put it. I'm rather old fashioned and like to hear both sides before jumping in and making accusations.

Oh you Serbs and Serb sympathizers sure have a way with words. Human rights violations? Please. The reality is that Serbian and Croatian are the exact same language barring a number of lexicon differences and the exclusive usage of the Latin alphabet in Croatian.
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If that's so why not allow it then?

All this tells me (for whatever reason is behind it) is that fascism (unfortunately) is still alive. My dad is Serbian and my Mum Croatian and our families (from both sides) get along so well, it really hurts seeing things like this light up nationalism.

Oh you Serbs and Serb sympathizers sure have a way with words. Human rights violations? Please. The reality is that Serbian and Croatian are the exact same language barring a number of lexicon differences and the exclusive usage of the Latin alphabet in Croatian. Serbian, however, uses both Latin and Cyrillic and every Serb alive today is capable of reading and writing in the same script Croats use. So what is the problem? The Serb minority in Vukovar is not being neglected of the services provided by their local government due to a language barrier because there is none.

Well Belgrade the EU sent you a very diplomatic response basically telling you to go f**k yourself. I hope you realize the EU Backs facist ideology as you clearly see what they are doing with you or even in the Ukraine. The EU is no place for Serbia turn to the East and stop looking to the west!

This is an interesting question that goes beyond Croatian/Serbian relations. A lot of towns across the EU have increasing numbers of non-native speakers with the continuing large displacements from Africa and the Middle East. What is the legitimate expectation of these minorities with regard to use of their own languages (or scripts) outside their own countries? It is difficult to 'protect' one small group of people without setting a precedent for everyone else and it is often this that holds the EU back from acting.

Croatia doesn't care about human rights. It cares about its image. The more media attention is given to the pathological hatred of Serbs that exists in Croatia, the more stories like this are spread on social media, the more they will be pressurised to deal with the problem. Next stop the Court of Human Rights.

Typical eu crap. Serbia please don't join eu they just want to rule you. You guys are better off without them and their rules for one and rules for others.

Serbia should make the Croatian Consulate sign in Cyrillic only.

Whats good for the goosee, is also good for the gander.

They should make it today.

This is an interesting question that goes beyond Croatian/Serbian relations. A lot of towns across the EU have increasing numbers of non-native speakers with the continuing large displacements from Africa and the Middle East. What is the legitimate expectation of these minorities with regard to use of their own languages (or scripts) outside their own countries? It is difficult to 'protect' one small group of people without setting a precedent for everyone else and it is often this that holds the EU back from acting.
(ned taylor, 19 August 2015 13:43)
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Like I said before, there is always an excuse and you're the one who provides it.
If Serbia took away the right to use Albnaian in universities in the prodomenantly Albanian areas what would you say? What is the excuse of Albanians for wanting to secede for so long? Let me think, oh yes, they claim that Serbia took away the right to use their language among others. Did you have a comment on that?
You never disappoint.

They are just hiding behind empty talk. And that is why there is the European Court of Justice.

The other option is to go through the Council of Europe. Also, a claim can be filed with the European Court of Human Rights by individuals against Croatia under Article 14 of the ECHR.

Oh you Serbs and Serb sympathizers sure have a way with words. Human rights violations? Please. The reality is that Serbian and Croatian are the exact same language barring a number of lexicon differences and the exclusive usage of the Latin alphabet in Croatian.
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If that's so why not allow it then?

the Commission does not have a general legal competence in relation to minorities, especially in relation to the recognition of their status, their self-determination and autonomy...............SO Serbia should have no legal issue with the EU regarding its southern province of Kosovo then. Never join this fascist / corporate pyramid scheme Serbia!

What do the Germans say?

F.A. as usual. They like their dogs.

Typical prefabricated corporate response that both relieves the EU of any responsibility to act and indirectly puts pressure on the member state to take necessary measures under threat of more direct action by the ICJ.

So the European Commission has an opinion with Serbia taking part in military drills with Russia but has nothing to say, no opinion, no instruction against the removing of cryllic in Croatia.

Totally two faced and hypocritical.
The taking away of minority rights was the entire premise for the war in yugoslavia and now the EU is ssying they have no legal right even though minority tights is part of being admitted to the EU.

I have one suggestion for Serbia, take away minority languages since its ok for ukraine and croatia to do it. You will hear alot of condemnation from the EU/ US/ UK and the UN. Its basically bullying.

Peggy: There is a huge difference between restricting the use of a (spoken)language, which the EU would clamp down on very quickly under Article 3 of its constitution and refusing to put more than one script on a road sign, which does not fall within EU competence. All Serbs understand the Latin script so even though they may prefer to see their own script on these signs too, they are not being 'excluded' the same way that an Englishman would be if every sign in Wales was only in Welsh (they are in both languages). As for making excuses, if I was doing so in this case it was the EU not intervening that I was excusing not the actions of the Croats. Furthermore, my question about why all municipalities have banned Cyrillic was an open question to which I would like an answer, not an 'excuse' as you would put it. I'm rather old fashioned and like to hear both sides before jumping in and making accusations.

All this tells me (for whatever reason is behind it) is that fascism (unfortunately) is still alive. My dad is Serbian and my Mum Croatian and our families (from both sides) get along so well, it really hurts seeing things like this light up nationalism.