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Monday, 03.08.2015.

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Statue of Tudjman placed on Knin Fortress

Preparations to mark the 20th anniversary of Operation Storm are in full swing in Croatia.

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the actual truth

pre 8 godina

500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!
(Bam Bam, 5 August 2015 12:48)

I told you not to argue something you have no clue about but here you are desperately attempting to sound intelligent. Serbs are still in Croatia and Croatian nationalists are convinced their country is still held hostage by them.

And Croats were the ones cleaning stables of Hungarian nobles while Serbs were protected by the Austrian crown. Now Croats are polishing German boots, working in German fast food restaurants, and serving drinks to German tourists. A piss poor country totally dependent on EU aid and tourism and you think Croats are superior? It's clear you're not from Croatia, but have you ever even been to it?

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 August 2015 12:13)


Don't forget Macedonia, Croatia and Serbia pale in comparison. Downtown Skopje looks like a theme park, approaching Disneyland in gaudiness. Fantasy is nature's way of escaping reality. And, what a waste of money for such a poor country. Unfortunately, the Greeks can't afford to visit Skopje, consequently, missing the opportunity for a great laugh.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@the actual truth

The JNA pulled out because not only did many dessert their posts they had no heart to fight. They could only kill for the air or by long range artillery. The minute they sent in their tanks they all got destroyed. The Serbs needed to send Arkan and Seselj's men to actually defeat the lightly armed defenders. Serbia still to this day refuses to release the actual casualties of Serbs in VUKOVAR.. 500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure.
(Bam Bam, 4 August 2015 14:42)

And you were targeting fleeing civilians and old pensioners left to defend their homes. JNA pulled out on order from Milosevic. Funny how the previous four years Croatia was unable to do anything and was almost forced to accept the Z4 plan which would have made Krajina a fully autonomous region that Zagreb would never control. With the boasting you do, you'd think JNA would have been annihilated as soon as they crossed the border in 1991 and Vukovar would never have happened.

Try not to argue here, since you know nothing of the country you want to be a part of.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@Ari
You are talking to Yugoslavian army.
The army which Serbia use in 90, was the Yugoslavian army, made by Tito the Croatian not by Serbs. Serbia had the chairmanship that year and for this all the 5 other republics were unarmed while Serbia not.
Just yesterday i saw the documentary about the fall of Yugoslavia and i never saw a single Slovenian or Croatian tank because there was no one, while Serbs use the heavy artillery and tanks and other heavy army in the territory of another Yugoslavian Federation without the approval of all the Federation members of Yugoslavia.
So, you use the heavy army of the 6 republics while the others fought with rifles and pistols. And you are proud of this?
You was just lucky, ask yourself what would happen if Tudjman would have at time the chairmanship of Yugoslavia in 90, and serbs will fight with rifle and pistols? Just imagine!
So stop talking bullshit,because just you serbs like to believe it.
You are proud to one ARMY which in fact was not yours but the ARMY of the 6 Jugoslavian Federations.
Or i'm wrong?
I'm sorry you are unbalanced people. No one of the other Federations would ever imagine that you will arrive at this point. Give to the Serbs the power and they will start another war.This have nothing to do with the power this have to do with imbalance. You are not able to stand in equilibrium!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Pretty soon statues of Nazi Ustasha Puppet Ante Pavelic will be showing up in Zagreb who committed Genocide against Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and Croats. Franjo Tudjman is a Nazi Fascist, just read his Nazi Book Historical Wastelands.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@The Actual Truth

Operation Otkos
Akcija Maslenica
Akcija Peruca Dam
Akcija Medacki Dzep
Akcija Bljesak
Oluja

Everyone of these actions pushed the Serbs closer to Banja Luka. Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure. The Serbs had shit loads of Paramilitaries, JNA, Wannabe Chetniks, Town Warlords etc. etc. under no central command ( Slobo, Arkan, Seselj, Lukic, Mladic, Kadijevic ). They all had their own agendas. At the end of the day there can be only one winner and the Serbs need to accept that 500 years has been wiped out in 4 days- never to return !

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight.
(Dario, 4 August 2015 07:21)

The Serbs were born in Yugoslavia, not Croatia, and not what Tudjman created which made them second class citizens. And not putting up much of a fight? Four years defending 18% of Croatia's territory without any Croatian military victory before the order was given by Milosevic to pull out JNA forces destroys your argument.

Dario

pre 8 godina

The International Community gave 'OLUJA' the green light. Such a brilliant military victory. What army in the world can defeat another in 4 days. The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight. No one Croatian soldier was ever sentenced by the Hague because of the professionalism of its personnel. Wounded Serb prisoner PERIC was a prime example that all Croat soldiers followed the rules of war based on the Geneva Convention.

Beavis

pre 8 godina

Hey Bam Bam, check out this stanza where he says he can smell the tail of the dragon.

"Senor, senor, I can see that painted wagon
I can smell the tail of the dragon
Can't stand the suspense anymore
Can you tell me who to contact here, senor?"

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Tudjman was a war criminal and shame on Croatia for celebrating his legacy. I don't blame Croats for recapturing Krajina and the Slavonias, but atrocities along the way besmirched the achievement. Further, what of his campaign to carve out part of Bosnia for annexation to Croatia? He and Sloba were birds of a feather - you know, the kind we see running Russia today.

RT

pre 8 godina

Comm Parrison that's an interesting comparison but you are wrong there is No Comparison. Tudjman was a despot who hated a quarter of his population and systematically drove them out. We know who his victims were all too well. Princip on the other hand stood up for all his people to rescue them from tyranny and not subject them to it. He is worthy of praise, Tudjman certainly isn't.

Tuco from Cocotlan

pre 8 godina

Hey Croats, build statues of peacemakers and poets like this here fella, and not of Nazi worshiping Balkan sewer rats like Tudjman and the Croatian Catholic clergy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqbJYI_SGM&list=PL9wMdVdowjKkLWmtWTE72-dVCoZM-gZcl

Avno Idea

pre 8 godina

Tudjman ? A hero ? That takes a very vivid imagination. That man and his side-kick Mesic engineered the destruction of Yugoslavia and it's impossible to believe any sane person would thank them for that and the ensuing carnage.It's a bit like congratulating Ante Pavelic for his contribution to multi-culturalism.

Bedni & Jadni & Ponosni Inc.

pre 8 godina

Is this statue of the same Tudjman that counted all the Holocaust victims? http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/6904#.Vb-i8ZNViko

What goes up must come down spinning wheel got to go round...you never learn...

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

I hear Ceku and his White Beanie Donkey Brigade are running a little late. They are overloaded with baklava trays, pumpkin seeds and neatly cut fire wood. As you may already know, many of his best and brightest human organ harvesters and narco terrorists joined ISIS, and he's finding himself a little short handed right now.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

here is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.


(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Also Grade A fascist idiot.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

They had, he was called Slobodan Milosevic.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Congratulations Croatia! Profound Croatian Unity, God helps those who help themselves! While Croatia celebrates Victory, Land and Liberty, in Beograd Serbians continue to pray and put flowers on Tito's grave! Serbian people put Josif Broz a Croatian on the throne in Beograd in 1945, the fuse was lit for the self destruction of Christian Eastern Orthodoxy in the Balkans! Serbians tortured and murdered their own brothers and sisters only to please Satan! Just look at the deterioration of Serbia since 1945, Christian Eastern Orthodox religion spat on, Christian Eastern Orthodox people tortured, raped, murdered with all real estate and personal property taken away and stolen! So now for Croatia all fine and well, a clean slate! So Serbia can continue to bow to Satan and keep getting kicked in the rear end by the Devil! So sad but painfully true!!!

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

Tomorrow's ceremony will be accompanied by the Benny Hill theme tune in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

another former Nazi partner till death

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

He just rode in on a white donkey about an hour ago. The organizers are crying and wetting themselves from happiness.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war.
(rightari, 3 August 2015 13:57)

Yea but we didn't lose to you! Just like we didn't lose to the KLA in Kosovo-Metohija. We lost to NATO, the strongest military alliance on the planet. Just like Serbs didn't 'lose' to the Ustashe when they were killing over a million people during WWII, because again without Nazi Germany, you wouldn't have been able to get away with your crimes.

Jbg, it's not easy being a thorn in the sides of empires. But someone has to resist while others play the willing vassal.

Dum Dum

pre 8 godina

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Who? Tudjman? He was little more than the needed dupe for Milosevic. The two of them conspired to destroy Yugosalvia and Tudjman was more than happy to watch his country burn for four years only to achieve the most hollow victory in history.

Thank goodness another statue of Tudjman is going up for pigeons to aim at. They aim better than the Croat soldiers in the 1990s did.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

There is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !

I think therefor I am

pre 8 godina

here are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.
(Ari Gold, 3 August 2015 12:19)

Ari all this is due to Serbia not wanting to accept Z4 Plan, but wanting to connect Knin with RS and Serbia. Z4 gave you unprecedented powers and not a chance for Storm.

Before blaming others why dont you blame your gov Vucic was against it as well.

rightari

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war. You didn't get your ethnically pure Velika Srbija than and you will not get it now 20 years later. Serbs can maybe return in 2041.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?

Not surprised

pre 8 godina

We'd call that a very hollow victory,but I suppose from a vacuous bunch of misfits like these Croatian nationalists little more imaginative could be expected.

Joe A

pre 8 godina

The inscription should be replaced with: “Thank God, my wife is neither a Serb nor a Jew”. That says all this guy was about. Storm was the biggest ethnic cleansing operation in Europe since WWII.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Maybe our neighbours should come and watch a real victory parade, with a victorious army
(Victory, 3 August 2015 11:29)

nah you didn't hear? NATO is not going to be there. You know full well that ethnically cleansing a quarter million people and killing thousands in the process would not have been possible without NATO's direct involvement.

Anyway, respect to Croatian groups who were taping stickers around Zagreb this past weekend condemning this act of fascist Ustashaism. There are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Maybe our neighbours should come and watch a real victory parade, with a victorious army
(Victory, 3 August 2015 11:29)

nah you didn't hear? NATO is not going to be there. You know full well that ethnically cleansing a quarter million people and killing thousands in the process would not have been possible without NATO's direct involvement.

Anyway, respect to Croatian groups who were taping stickers around Zagreb this past weekend condemning this act of fascist Ustashaism. There are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.

Joe A

pre 8 godina

The inscription should be replaced with: “Thank God, my wife is neither a Serb nor a Jew”. That says all this guy was about. Storm was the biggest ethnic cleansing operation in Europe since WWII.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce.

Dum Dum

pre 8 godina

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Who? Tudjman? He was little more than the needed dupe for Milosevic. The two of them conspired to destroy Yugosalvia and Tudjman was more than happy to watch his country burn for four years only to achieve the most hollow victory in history.

Thank goodness another statue of Tudjman is going up for pigeons to aim at. They aim better than the Croat soldiers in the 1990s did.

I think therefor I am

pre 8 godina

here are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.
(Ari Gold, 3 August 2015 12:19)

Ari all this is due to Serbia not wanting to accept Z4 Plan, but wanting to connect Knin with RS and Serbia. Z4 gave you unprecedented powers and not a chance for Storm.

Before blaming others why dont you blame your gov Vucic was against it as well.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

here is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.


(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Also Grade A fascist idiot.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

They had, he was called Slobodan Milosevic.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?

Not surprised

pre 8 godina

We'd call that a very hollow victory,but I suppose from a vacuous bunch of misfits like these Croatian nationalists little more imaginative could be expected.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Congratulations Croatia! Profound Croatian Unity, God helps those who help themselves! While Croatia celebrates Victory, Land and Liberty, in Beograd Serbians continue to pray and put flowers on Tito's grave! Serbian people put Josif Broz a Croatian on the throne in Beograd in 1945, the fuse was lit for the self destruction of Christian Eastern Orthodoxy in the Balkans! Serbians tortured and murdered their own brothers and sisters only to please Satan! Just look at the deterioration of Serbia since 1945, Christian Eastern Orthodox religion spat on, Christian Eastern Orthodox people tortured, raped, murdered with all real estate and personal property taken away and stolen! So now for Croatia all fine and well, a clean slate! So Serbia can continue to bow to Satan and keep getting kicked in the rear end by the Devil! So sad but painfully true!!!

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

There is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !

rightari

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war. You didn't get your ethnically pure Velika Srbija than and you will not get it now 20 years later. Serbs can maybe return in 2041.

another former Nazi partner till death

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

He just rode in on a white donkey about an hour ago. The organizers are crying and wetting themselves from happiness.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war.
(rightari, 3 August 2015 13:57)

Yea but we didn't lose to you! Just like we didn't lose to the KLA in Kosovo-Metohija. We lost to NATO, the strongest military alliance on the planet. Just like Serbs didn't 'lose' to the Ustashe when they were killing over a million people during WWII, because again without Nazi Germany, you wouldn't have been able to get away with your crimes.

Jbg, it's not easy being a thorn in the sides of empires. But someone has to resist while others play the willing vassal.

What goes up must come down spinning wheel got to go round...you never learn...

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

I hear Ceku and his White Beanie Donkey Brigade are running a little late. They are overloaded with baklava trays, pumpkin seeds and neatly cut fire wood. As you may already know, many of his best and brightest human organ harvesters and narco terrorists joined ISIS, and he's finding himself a little short handed right now.

Avno Idea

pre 8 godina

Tudjman ? A hero ? That takes a very vivid imagination. That man and his side-kick Mesic engineered the destruction of Yugoslavia and it's impossible to believe any sane person would thank them for that and the ensuing carnage.It's a bit like congratulating Ante Pavelic for his contribution to multi-culturalism.

Tuco from Cocotlan

pre 8 godina

Hey Croats, build statues of peacemakers and poets like this here fella, and not of Nazi worshiping Balkan sewer rats like Tudjman and the Croatian Catholic clergy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqbJYI_SGM&list=PL9wMdVdowjKkLWmtWTE72-dVCoZM-gZcl

RT

pre 8 godina

Comm Parrison that's an interesting comparison but you are wrong there is No Comparison. Tudjman was a despot who hated a quarter of his population and systematically drove them out. We know who his victims were all too well. Princip on the other hand stood up for all his people to rescue them from tyranny and not subject them to it. He is worthy of praise, Tudjman certainly isn't.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

Tomorrow's ceremony will be accompanied by the Benny Hill theme tune in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@The Actual Truth

Operation Otkos
Akcija Maslenica
Akcija Peruca Dam
Akcija Medacki Dzep
Akcija Bljesak
Oluja

Everyone of these actions pushed the Serbs closer to Banja Luka. Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure. The Serbs had shit loads of Paramilitaries, JNA, Wannabe Chetniks, Town Warlords etc. etc. under no central command ( Slobo, Arkan, Seselj, Lukic, Mladic, Kadijevic ). They all had their own agendas. At the end of the day there can be only one winner and the Serbs need to accept that 500 years has been wiped out in 4 days- never to return !

Bedni & Jadni & Ponosni Inc.

pre 8 godina

Is this statue of the same Tudjman that counted all the Holocaust victims? http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/6904#.Vb-i8ZNViko

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight.
(Dario, 4 August 2015 07:21)

The Serbs were born in Yugoslavia, not Croatia, and not what Tudjman created which made them second class citizens. And not putting up much of a fight? Four years defending 18% of Croatia's territory without any Croatian military victory before the order was given by Milosevic to pull out JNA forces destroys your argument.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Tudjman was a war criminal and shame on Croatia for celebrating his legacy. I don't blame Croats for recapturing Krajina and the Slavonias, but atrocities along the way besmirched the achievement. Further, what of his campaign to carve out part of Bosnia for annexation to Croatia? He and Sloba were birds of a feather - you know, the kind we see running Russia today.

Dario

pre 8 godina

The International Community gave 'OLUJA' the green light. Such a brilliant military victory. What army in the world can defeat another in 4 days. The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight. No one Croatian soldier was ever sentenced by the Hague because of the professionalism of its personnel. Wounded Serb prisoner PERIC was a prime example that all Croat soldiers followed the rules of war based on the Geneva Convention.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Pretty soon statues of Nazi Ustasha Puppet Ante Pavelic will be showing up in Zagreb who committed Genocide against Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and Croats. Franjo Tudjman is a Nazi Fascist, just read his Nazi Book Historical Wastelands.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@the actual truth

The JNA pulled out because not only did many dessert their posts they had no heart to fight. They could only kill for the air or by long range artillery. The minute they sent in their tanks they all got destroyed. The Serbs needed to send Arkan and Seselj's men to actually defeat the lightly armed defenders. Serbia still to this day refuses to release the actual casualties of Serbs in VUKOVAR.. 500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!

Joni

pre 8 godina

@Ari
You are talking to Yugoslavian army.
The army which Serbia use in 90, was the Yugoslavian army, made by Tito the Croatian not by Serbs. Serbia had the chairmanship that year and for this all the 5 other republics were unarmed while Serbia not.
Just yesterday i saw the documentary about the fall of Yugoslavia and i never saw a single Slovenian or Croatian tank because there was no one, while Serbs use the heavy artillery and tanks and other heavy army in the territory of another Yugoslavian Federation without the approval of all the Federation members of Yugoslavia.
So, you use the heavy army of the 6 republics while the others fought with rifles and pistols. And you are proud of this?
You was just lucky, ask yourself what would happen if Tudjman would have at time the chairmanship of Yugoslavia in 90, and serbs will fight with rifle and pistols? Just imagine!
So stop talking bullshit,because just you serbs like to believe it.
You are proud to one ARMY which in fact was not yours but the ARMY of the 6 Jugoslavian Federations.
Or i'm wrong?
I'm sorry you are unbalanced people. No one of the other Federations would ever imagine that you will arrive at this point. Give to the Serbs the power and they will start another war.This have nothing to do with the power this have to do with imbalance. You are not able to stand in equilibrium!

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure.
(Bam Bam, 4 August 2015 14:42)

And you were targeting fleeing civilians and old pensioners left to defend their homes. JNA pulled out on order from Milosevic. Funny how the previous four years Croatia was unable to do anything and was almost forced to accept the Z4 plan which would have made Krajina a fully autonomous region that Zagreb would never control. With the boasting you do, you'd think JNA would have been annihilated as soon as they crossed the border in 1991 and Vukovar would never have happened.

Try not to argue here, since you know nothing of the country you want to be a part of.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 August 2015 12:13)


Don't forget Macedonia, Croatia and Serbia pale in comparison. Downtown Skopje looks like a theme park, approaching Disneyland in gaudiness. Fantasy is nature's way of escaping reality. And, what a waste of money for such a poor country. Unfortunately, the Greeks can't afford to visit Skopje, consequently, missing the opportunity for a great laugh.

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!
(Bam Bam, 5 August 2015 12:48)

I told you not to argue something you have no clue about but here you are desperately attempting to sound intelligent. Serbs are still in Croatia and Croatian nationalists are convinced their country is still held hostage by them.

And Croats were the ones cleaning stables of Hungarian nobles while Serbs were protected by the Austrian crown. Now Croats are polishing German boots, working in German fast food restaurants, and serving drinks to German tourists. A piss poor country totally dependent on EU aid and tourism and you think Croats are superior? It's clear you're not from Croatia, but have you ever even been to it?

Beavis

pre 8 godina

Hey Bam Bam, check out this stanza where he says he can smell the tail of the dragon.

"Senor, senor, I can see that painted wagon
I can smell the tail of the dragon
Can't stand the suspense anymore
Can you tell me who to contact here, senor?"

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

There is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !

rightari

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war. You didn't get your ethnically pure Velika Srbija than and you will not get it now 20 years later. Serbs can maybe return in 2041.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Rabid chauvinism means greater srbija chetniks crying like babies for losing the war.
(rightari, 3 August 2015 13:57)

Yea but we didn't lose to you! Just like we didn't lose to the KLA in Kosovo-Metohija. We lost to NATO, the strongest military alliance on the planet. Just like Serbs didn't 'lose' to the Ustashe when they were killing over a million people during WWII, because again without Nazi Germany, you wouldn't have been able to get away with your crimes.

Jbg, it's not easy being a thorn in the sides of empires. But someone has to resist while others play the willing vassal.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce.

Joe A

pre 8 godina

The inscription should be replaced with: “Thank God, my wife is neither a Serb nor a Jew”. That says all this guy was about. Storm was the biggest ethnic cleansing operation in Europe since WWII.

Dario

pre 8 godina

The International Community gave 'OLUJA' the green light. Such a brilliant military victory. What army in the world can defeat another in 4 days. The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight. No one Croatian soldier was ever sentenced by the Hague because of the professionalism of its personnel. Wounded Serb prisoner PERIC was a prime example that all Croat soldiers followed the rules of war based on the Geneva Convention.

Dum Dum

pre 8 godina

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Who? Tudjman? He was little more than the needed dupe for Milosevic. The two of them conspired to destroy Yugosalvia and Tudjman was more than happy to watch his country burn for four years only to achieve the most hollow victory in history.

Thank goodness another statue of Tudjman is going up for pigeons to aim at. They aim better than the Croat soldiers in the 1990s did.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Maybe our neighbours should come and watch a real victory parade, with a victorious army
(Victory, 3 August 2015 11:29)

nah you didn't hear? NATO is not going to be there. You know full well that ethnically cleansing a quarter million people and killing thousands in the process would not have been possible without NATO's direct involvement.

Anyway, respect to Croatian groups who were taping stickers around Zagreb this past weekend condemning this act of fascist Ustashaism. There are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.

another former Nazi partner till death

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

He just rode in on a white donkey about an hour ago. The organizers are crying and wetting themselves from happiness.

Tuco from Cocotlan

pre 8 godina

Hey Croats, build statues of peacemakers and poets like this here fella, and not of Nazi worshiping Balkan sewer rats like Tudjman and the Croatian Catholic clergy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBqbJYI_SGM&list=PL9wMdVdowjKkLWmtWTE72-dVCoZM-gZcl

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

The Serbs never really loved the country they were born in, thats why they ran to Serbia without putting up much of a fight.
(Dario, 4 August 2015 07:21)

The Serbs were born in Yugoslavia, not Croatia, and not what Tudjman created which made them second class citizens. And not putting up much of a fight? Four years defending 18% of Croatia's territory without any Croatian military victory before the order was given by Milosevic to pull out JNA forces destroys your argument.

Not surprised

pre 8 godina

We'd call that a very hollow victory,but I suppose from a vacuous bunch of misfits like these Croatian nationalists little more imaginative could be expected.

I think therefor I am

pre 8 godina

here are brave people in Croatia who are combating this rabid chauvinism.
(Ari Gold, 3 August 2015 12:19)

Ari all this is due to Serbia not wanting to accept Z4 Plan, but wanting to connect Knin with RS and Serbia. Z4 gave you unprecedented powers and not a chance for Storm.

Before blaming others why dont you blame your gov Vucic was against it as well.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

Tomorrow's ceremony will be accompanied by the Benny Hill theme tune in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

Avno Idea

pre 8 godina

Tudjman ? A hero ? That takes a very vivid imagination. That man and his side-kick Mesic engineered the destruction of Yugoslavia and it's impossible to believe any sane person would thank them for that and the ensuing carnage.It's a bit like congratulating Ante Pavelic for his contribution to multi-culturalism.

What goes up must come down spinning wheel got to go round...you never learn...

pre 8 godina

Does anyone know if Agim Ceku will also be attending the liberation day celebrations in Croatia?
(Rocky, 3 August 2015 13:36)

I hear Ceku and his White Beanie Donkey Brigade are running a little late. They are overloaded with baklava trays, pumpkin seeds and neatly cut fire wood. As you may already know, many of his best and brightest human organ harvesters and narco terrorists joined ISIS, and he's finding himself a little short handed right now.

Bedni & Jadni & Ponosni Inc.

pre 8 godina

Is this statue of the same Tudjman that counted all the Holocaust victims? http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/6904#.Vb-i8ZNViko

RT

pre 8 godina

Comm Parrison that's an interesting comparison but you are wrong there is No Comparison. Tudjman was a despot who hated a quarter of his population and systematically drove them out. We know who his victims were all too well. Princip on the other hand stood up for all his people to rescue them from tyranny and not subject them to it. He is worthy of praise, Tudjman certainly isn't.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@The Actual Truth

Operation Otkos
Akcija Maslenica
Akcija Peruca Dam
Akcija Medacki Dzep
Akcija Bljesak
Oluja

Everyone of these actions pushed the Serbs closer to Banja Luka. Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure. The Serbs had shit loads of Paramilitaries, JNA, Wannabe Chetniks, Town Warlords etc. etc. under no central command ( Slobo, Arkan, Seselj, Lukic, Mladic, Kadijevic ). They all had their own agendas. At the end of the day there can be only one winner and the Serbs need to accept that 500 years has been wiped out in 4 days- never to return !

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Congratulations Croatia! Profound Croatian Unity, God helps those who help themselves! While Croatia celebrates Victory, Land and Liberty, in Beograd Serbians continue to pray and put flowers on Tito's grave! Serbian people put Josif Broz a Croatian on the throne in Beograd in 1945, the fuse was lit for the self destruction of Christian Eastern Orthodoxy in the Balkans! Serbians tortured and murdered their own brothers and sisters only to please Satan! Just look at the deterioration of Serbia since 1945, Christian Eastern Orthodox religion spat on, Christian Eastern Orthodox people tortured, raped, murdered with all real estate and personal property taken away and stolen! So now for Croatia all fine and well, a clean slate! So Serbia can continue to bow to Satan and keep getting kicked in the rear end by the Devil! So sad but painfully true!!!

Beavis

pre 8 godina

Hey Bam Bam, check out this stanza where he says he can smell the tail of the dragon.

"Senor, senor, I can see that painted wagon
I can smell the tail of the dragon
Can't stand the suspense anymore
Can you tell me who to contact here, senor?"

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Pretty soon statues of Nazi Ustasha Puppet Ante Pavelic will be showing up in Zagreb who committed Genocide against Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and Croats. Franjo Tudjman is a Nazi Fascist, just read his Nazi Book Historical Wastelands.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 8 godina

here is no bigger honour then recognising a genius. Anti Fascist Partizan General - Aged 37. President Partizan Belgrade FC 1945. Highly Educated - Warfare / History. Founder HDZ - Democratic Process. Defeated Serb Rebels - Tzv. Krajina. Major Allies - Germany / U.S.


(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

Also Grade A fascist idiot.

The Serbs could only dream to have such a leader !
(Bam Bam, 3 August 2015 14:24)

They had, he was called Slobodan Milosevic.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@the actual truth

The JNA pulled out because not only did many dessert their posts they had no heart to fight. They could only kill for the air or by long range artillery. The minute they sent in their tanks they all got destroyed. The Serbs needed to send Arkan and Seselj's men to actually defeat the lightly armed defenders. Serbia still to this day refuses to release the actual casualties of Serbs in VUKOVAR.. 500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Tudjman was a war criminal and shame on Croatia for celebrating his legacy. I don't blame Croats for recapturing Krajina and the Slavonias, but atrocities along the way besmirched the achievement. Further, what of his campaign to carve out part of Bosnia for annexation to Croatia? He and Sloba were birds of a feather - you know, the kind we see running Russia today.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@Ari
You are talking to Yugoslavian army.
The army which Serbia use in 90, was the Yugoslavian army, made by Tito the Croatian not by Serbs. Serbia had the chairmanship that year and for this all the 5 other republics were unarmed while Serbia not.
Just yesterday i saw the documentary about the fall of Yugoslavia and i never saw a single Slovenian or Croatian tank because there was no one, while Serbs use the heavy artillery and tanks and other heavy army in the territory of another Yugoslavian Federation without the approval of all the Federation members of Yugoslavia.
So, you use the heavy army of the 6 republics while the others fought with rifles and pistols. And you are proud of this?
You was just lucky, ask yourself what would happen if Tudjman would have at time the chairmanship of Yugoslavia in 90, and serbs will fight with rifle and pistols? Just imagine!
So stop talking bullshit,because just you serbs like to believe it.
You are proud to one ARMY which in fact was not yours but the ARMY of the 6 Jugoslavian Federations.
Or i'm wrong?
I'm sorry you are unbalanced people. No one of the other Federations would ever imagine that you will arrive at this point. Give to the Serbs the power and they will start another war.This have nothing to do with the power this have to do with imbalance. You are not able to stand in equilibrium!

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

Why were these actions successful, because the Croatian Army had 9 Professional Brigades under one command structure.
(Bam Bam, 4 August 2015 14:42)

And you were targeting fleeing civilians and old pensioners left to defend their homes. JNA pulled out on order from Milosevic. Funny how the previous four years Croatia was unable to do anything and was almost forced to accept the Z4 plan which would have made Krajina a fully autonomous region that Zagreb would never control. With the boasting you do, you'd think JNA would have been annihilated as soon as they crossed the border in 1991 and Vukovar would never have happened.

Try not to argue here, since you know nothing of the country you want to be a part of.

the actual truth

pre 8 godina

500 years of Serbs in Croatia is no more and you will always polish the boots of a Croat...!
(Bam Bam, 5 August 2015 12:48)

I told you not to argue something you have no clue about but here you are desperately attempting to sound intelligent. Serbs are still in Croatia and Croatian nationalists are convinced their country is still held hostage by them.

And Croats were the ones cleaning stables of Hungarian nobles while Serbs were protected by the Austrian crown. Now Croats are polishing German boots, working in German fast food restaurants, and serving drinks to German tourists. A piss poor country totally dependent on EU aid and tourism and you think Croats are superior? It's clear you're not from Croatia, but have you ever even been to it?

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Leave it up to the right-wing nutball segments of the Domovina to take an already ridiculous degree of state orchestrated nationalism amid small-country paranoia and turn it into a comical farce."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 3 August 2015 10:31)

100% agree, but at least the same goes for the Princip statue in Belgrade recently unveiled by the Serbian president.

P.S: Some wise words: Nations that have not so much to be proud of economically and regarding the standard of living often prefer some stupid nationalism and symbolism. A manifestation for that are those statues of their 'big leaders', especially in North Korea.

P.P.S: Didn't Milosevic's home town erect a statue for him some years ago?
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 August 2015 12:13)


Don't forget Macedonia, Croatia and Serbia pale in comparison. Downtown Skopje looks like a theme park, approaching Disneyland in gaudiness. Fantasy is nature's way of escaping reality. And, what a waste of money for such a poor country. Unfortunately, the Greeks can't afford to visit Skopje, consequently, missing the opportunity for a great laugh.