What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05
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It's a far more worthy project that the ridiculous statue of Clinton in Pristina. This cross was financed by private donations. Who paid for the pidgeon toilet?
factman and arigold are the same person
(Adrian from Romania, 28 July 2015 21:36)
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That's rich. An imposter calling someone else an imposter.
orthodox person...
how can any nation consider itself pious. which nation wasn't built on the blood and bones of the innocent?
what western nation isn't known for centuries of genocide, slave trading, colonizing non-whites, extracting resources (stolen, or for pennies on the dollar), utter murder and decimation of 2 continents of indigenous peoples. when the air gets to rarefied for you on your ivory tower, feel free and join the rest of the world
How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
(Orthodox person, 29 July 2015 17:29)
I ask the same questions about Turkey (Genocide against the Armenians and Greeks) Croatia Ustasha (Genocide against Serbs and Jews) German Nazis (Genocide Jews, Gypsies, Slavs) Cambodia (Pol Pot), Rwanda, etc
When ancient Israel saw itself in peril they were instructed to stand firm and turn to El Shaddai. Is erecting and overpriced graven image the best way to heal this breach?
Putting up a cross in Serbia is cynical way for unholy Serbs to thumb their nose at religion and Orthodoxy in particular. How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
Before any African refugee is sent packing at least give them a feed of 'Sarma' and clothe them accordingly. That would be the right thing ! In addition......I ask the question, wouldn't it have been cheaper just to create a cross from 'Oak' and then paint it gold. Why spend ridiculous amounts on a cross that will eventually rust !
I think this is a fantastic idea. This is going to bring comfort and joy to a lot of people.
To the people who think that the money could be spent better, elsewhere: I encourage you to do that with your own money. No one is preventing you from organizing a charity, or donating anything you want. I encourage you to worry about how you can help people instead of criticizing how others chose to give back.
It's getting kind of ridiculous that I must always defend that I am not Ari Gold.
But let's say I was Ari Gold, what difference would that make?
Is not the strength of one's arguments what makes the difference in these forums? Are the arguments negated by this?
It is a common occurence in post-totalitarian countries to develop a number of unfortunate personality attributes. Chief amongst those is the politics of personal attack or slander of personality.
Many in the Balkans need to go back to Church/ Temple/ Mosque and learn the fundamental basics of civil society. Communism has made them godless. There should be more crosses put everywhere across Serbia because: Bog cuva Srbe.
Personally, if this cross project was financed by donations, and the locals don't mind looking at it every day, then fine, construct it. There are many religious symbols around the world, quite huge ones that are important landmarks, who's to say this one will not be also. IMHO, better to build a cross, than a rocket. Right, Mr. Putin?
With the Serbian Orthodox church suffering such damage in Kosovo, one might imagine that the Serbian Orthodox people might rather see money spent there. Such titanic displays are always suspect. The Eastern Orthodoxy has my respect for its more usual restrained spiritual displays.
I am an atheist and nothing could be more obvious to me that not all religions are alike.
Fairy tales are not completely without useful purpose. They can be used to enlighten instead of corrupt as Islam and Catholicism do, for example.
What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05)
The money you spent the last time you ate in a fancy restaurant could have fed many a homeless person, or the amount of money Spent each day for fans to watch soccer games could actually put homelessness to an end in Europe, so should we condemn those actions too. There is always a "better" use for any money spent.
One of the goals of recognized religions is to bring religious pride and comfort to those of the faith among other notable charitable causes.
Building a cross on top of a mountain that so many people could see once a day that would remind them of who they are and what sacrifice was committed FOR them, could only make people remember to be better people themselves, to work in a charitable way and to give comfort to their fellow man.
So could that money be spent in a better way, that would be your opinion. But 100,000 euros would be gone in 1 day in trying to better the lives of citizens, but hopefully something like this would be working miracles for years or decades to come.
By the way, not Eastern Orthodox.
Atheist Dave you should learn more about the Serbian way of life. Cross is more then just a religious marking for Serbs. Its part of being Serbian. Its history and tradition. Something atheists cant accept or understand :)
Good for the town to do something like that. I really hope Serbia rebuilds its self as a country and joins the western block of countries that is EU. It will only help Serbia grow!
Ari Gold I don't have problem where the cash came from, but 100K on a cross, really? Surely it is better invested else where. However if people want to believe in such fairytales then so be it, however to be fair I put all religion in the same box.
What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05)
The money you spent the last time you ate in a fancy restaurant could have fed many a homeless person, or the amount of money Spent each day for fans to watch soccer games could actually put homelessness to an end in Europe, so should we condemn those actions too. There is always a "better" use for any money spent.
One of the goals of recognized religions is to bring religious pride and comfort to those of the faith among other notable charitable causes.
Building a cross on top of a mountain that so many people could see once a day that would remind them of who they are and what sacrifice was committed FOR them, could only make people remember to be better people themselves, to work in a charitable way and to give comfort to their fellow man.
So could that money be spent in a better way, that would be your opinion. But 100,000 euros would be gone in 1 day in trying to better the lives of citizens, but hopefully something like this would be working miracles for years or decades to come.
By the way, not Eastern Orthodox.
Atheist Dave you should learn more about the Serbian way of life. Cross is more then just a religious marking for Serbs. Its part of being Serbian. Its history and tradition. Something atheists cant accept or understand :)
Good for the town to do something like that. I really hope Serbia rebuilds its self as a country and joins the western block of countries that is EU. It will only help Serbia grow!
I think this is a fantastic idea. This is going to bring comfort and joy to a lot of people.
To the people who think that the money could be spent better, elsewhere: I encourage you to do that with your own money. No one is preventing you from organizing a charity, or donating anything you want. I encourage you to worry about how you can help people instead of criticizing how others chose to give back.
It's getting kind of ridiculous that I must always defend that I am not Ari Gold.
But let's say I was Ari Gold, what difference would that make?
Is not the strength of one's arguments what makes the difference in these forums? Are the arguments negated by this?
It is a common occurence in post-totalitarian countries to develop a number of unfortunate personality attributes. Chief amongst those is the politics of personal attack or slander of personality.
Many in the Balkans need to go back to Church/ Temple/ Mosque and learn the fundamental basics of civil society. Communism has made them godless. There should be more crosses put everywhere across Serbia because: Bog cuva Srbe.
Ari Gold I don't have problem where the cash came from, but 100K on a cross, really? Surely it is better invested else where. However if people want to believe in such fairytales then so be it, however to be fair I put all religion in the same box.
Putting up a cross in Serbia is cynical way for unholy Serbs to thumb their nose at religion and Orthodoxy in particular. How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
Before any African refugee is sent packing at least give them a feed of 'Sarma' and clothe them accordingly. That would be the right thing ! In addition......I ask the question, wouldn't it have been cheaper just to create a cross from 'Oak' and then paint it gold. Why spend ridiculous amounts on a cross that will eventually rust !
How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
(Orthodox person, 29 July 2015 17:29)
I ask the same questions about Turkey (Genocide against the Armenians and Greeks) Croatia Ustasha (Genocide against Serbs and Jews) German Nazis (Genocide Jews, Gypsies, Slavs) Cambodia (Pol Pot), Rwanda, etc
With the Serbian Orthodox church suffering such damage in Kosovo, one might imagine that the Serbian Orthodox people might rather see money spent there. Such titanic displays are always suspect. The Eastern Orthodoxy has my respect for its more usual restrained spiritual displays.
I am an atheist and nothing could be more obvious to me that not all religions are alike.
Fairy tales are not completely without useful purpose. They can be used to enlighten instead of corrupt as Islam and Catholicism do, for example.
factman and arigold are the same person
(Adrian from Romania, 28 July 2015 21:36)
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That's rich. An imposter calling someone else an imposter.
What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05
=====================
It's a far more worthy project that the ridiculous statue of Clinton in Pristina. This cross was financed by private donations. Who paid for the pidgeon toilet?
Personally, if this cross project was financed by donations, and the locals don't mind looking at it every day, then fine, construct it. There are many religious symbols around the world, quite huge ones that are important landmarks, who's to say this one will not be also. IMHO, better to build a cross, than a rocket. Right, Mr. Putin?
When ancient Israel saw itself in peril they were instructed to stand firm and turn to El Shaddai. Is erecting and overpriced graven image the best way to heal this breach?
orthodox person...
how can any nation consider itself pious. which nation wasn't built on the blood and bones of the innocent?
what western nation isn't known for centuries of genocide, slave trading, colonizing non-whites, extracting resources (stolen, or for pennies on the dollar), utter murder and decimation of 2 continents of indigenous peoples. when the air gets to rarefied for you on your ivory tower, feel free and join the rest of the world
Ari Gold I don't have problem where the cash came from, but 100K on a cross, really? Surely it is better invested else where. However if people want to believe in such fairytales then so be it, however to be fair I put all religion in the same box.
Putting up a cross in Serbia is cynical way for unholy Serbs to thumb their nose at religion and Orthodoxy in particular. How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
With the Serbian Orthodox church suffering such damage in Kosovo, one might imagine that the Serbian Orthodox people might rather see money spent there. Such titanic displays are always suspect. The Eastern Orthodoxy has my respect for its more usual restrained spiritual displays.
I am an atheist and nothing could be more obvious to me that not all religions are alike.
Fairy tales are not completely without useful purpose. They can be used to enlighten instead of corrupt as Islam and Catholicism do, for example.
It's getting kind of ridiculous that I must always defend that I am not Ari Gold.
But let's say I was Ari Gold, what difference would that make?
Is not the strength of one's arguments what makes the difference in these forums? Are the arguments negated by this?
It is a common occurence in post-totalitarian countries to develop a number of unfortunate personality attributes. Chief amongst those is the politics of personal attack or slander of personality.
Many in the Balkans need to go back to Church/ Temple/ Mosque and learn the fundamental basics of civil society. Communism has made them godless. There should be more crosses put everywhere across Serbia because: Bog cuva Srbe.
Atheist Dave you should learn more about the Serbian way of life. Cross is more then just a religious marking for Serbs. Its part of being Serbian. Its history and tradition. Something atheists cant accept or understand :)
Good for the town to do something like that. I really hope Serbia rebuilds its self as a country and joins the western block of countries that is EU. It will only help Serbia grow!
How can a nation known for Genocide pretend to be pious.
(Orthodox person, 29 July 2015 17:29)
I ask the same questions about Turkey (Genocide against the Armenians and Greeks) Croatia Ustasha (Genocide against Serbs and Jews) German Nazis (Genocide Jews, Gypsies, Slavs) Cambodia (Pol Pot), Rwanda, etc
I think this is a fantastic idea. This is going to bring comfort and joy to a lot of people.
To the people who think that the money could be spent better, elsewhere: I encourage you to do that with your own money. No one is preventing you from organizing a charity, or donating anything you want. I encourage you to worry about how you can help people instead of criticizing how others chose to give back.
Before any African refugee is sent packing at least give them a feed of 'Sarma' and clothe them accordingly. That would be the right thing ! In addition......I ask the question, wouldn't it have been cheaper just to create a cross from 'Oak' and then paint it gold. Why spend ridiculous amounts on a cross that will eventually rust !
orthodox person...
how can any nation consider itself pious. which nation wasn't built on the blood and bones of the innocent?
what western nation isn't known for centuries of genocide, slave trading, colonizing non-whites, extracting resources (stolen, or for pennies on the dollar), utter murder and decimation of 2 continents of indigenous peoples. when the air gets to rarefied for you on your ivory tower, feel free and join the rest of the world
factman and arigold are the same person
(Adrian from Romania, 28 July 2015 21:36)
===========================
That's rich. An imposter calling someone else an imposter.
What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05
=====================
It's a far more worthy project that the ridiculous statue of Clinton in Pristina. This cross was financed by private donations. Who paid for the pidgeon toilet?
What a waste of money. It would have been better spent assisting African refugees in Serbia with accomodation, food and clothing.
(Bam Bam, 28 July 2015 15:05)
The money you spent the last time you ate in a fancy restaurant could have fed many a homeless person, or the amount of money Spent each day for fans to watch soccer games could actually put homelessness to an end in Europe, so should we condemn those actions too. There is always a "better" use for any money spent.
One of the goals of recognized religions is to bring religious pride and comfort to those of the faith among other notable charitable causes.
Building a cross on top of a mountain that so many people could see once a day that would remind them of who they are and what sacrifice was committed FOR them, could only make people remember to be better people themselves, to work in a charitable way and to give comfort to their fellow man.
So could that money be spent in a better way, that would be your opinion. But 100,000 euros would be gone in 1 day in trying to better the lives of citizens, but hopefully something like this would be working miracles for years or decades to come.
By the way, not Eastern Orthodox.
When ancient Israel saw itself in peril they were instructed to stand firm and turn to El Shaddai. Is erecting and overpriced graven image the best way to heal this breach?
Personally, if this cross project was financed by donations, and the locals don't mind looking at it every day, then fine, construct it. There are many religious symbols around the world, quite huge ones that are important landmarks, who's to say this one will not be also. IMHO, better to build a cross, than a rocket. Right, Mr. Putin?
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