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Thursday, 16.07.2015.

11:52

U.S. embassy: Referendum violation of Dayton, provocation

The U.S. embassy in Bosnia is "alarmed at the direction in which this planned referendum is taking the Republika Srpska (Serb Republic; RS) as an entity."

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Peggy

pre 8 godina

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.
(Arn.Sweden., 17 July 2015 12:12)
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Not true. Everyone has the right like Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Macedonia. It's only Serbs who are not allowed to break away from anyone.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL.
(DD, 16 July 2015 14:37)
]Why ask the question when it is apparent you know the answer, as you stated.
The whole reason that Kosovo could not be reintegrated into Serbia is simple that following the enactment of 1244, Serbia has done nothing, nada, zilch, to show that they would be ready to reintegrate Kosovo into Serbia with the Albanians there as free and equal citizens. Serbia has maintained their stance, even today that they want to land without any Albanians on it, or at most the Albanians could stay as long as they learn their place as an oppressed sect of Serbia without equal rights and subject to total SErbian dominance.
So yes the whole reason IS Serbs are evil and there will never be a Serbian controlled Kosovo again.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Without reading the entire Dayton Agreement neither I nor anyone else is in a position comment on whether this referendum violates it. I am assuming that the US believes that undermining state level institutions that Dayton created, by asking permission from the RS public to ignore their rulings, is dangerous and could lead to a substantive breach of Dayton rather than a potential one. Personally I would let Dodik fritter away taxpayers money on this charade and then ignore him and carry on as usual. The outcome will not be binding on anyone, anymore than the Greek referendum was on creditors. It is rhetoric and an attempt to deflect attention away from an ailing economy.

Mrgude

pre 8 godina

The audacity of the these American so called diplomats knows no bounds. So having forced 3 different peoples to forcibly share a non starter of a country they complain when one community wants to carry out a referendum.Perhaps the black community in the United States should undertake a referendum to exit the apartheid system they are locked into.

think again

pre 8 godina

. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.
(Danny, 17 July 2015 01:15)

Have a feeling that your application at the CIA was never given any credence!!
Thank God the US saw that the greater Serbia plan was not only detrimental to the region but any association with it would have been both an economic and political disaster.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

The Russians has no right to vote for freedom in Eastern Ukraine.
The Serbians has no right to vote for Freedom in Eastern Bosnia.

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Ah yes, the Dayton Accords the most beloved and hated document associated with Bosnia, a country no one wants but prefers to keep together to avoid anyone benefiting from its dissolution.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What is happening here is that the only side that want to stick to the original letter of the Dayton Agreement are Republika Srpska. Both Bosniaks and Croats feel Dayton is harmful for their national interests and RS is the one trying to preserve what was agreed upon without any further centralization.

There's no reason why Bosnia cant be a loose federation like Yugoslavia. If not, there's no reason why it should really exist at all.

Danny

pre 8 godina

Im suprised that somewhere some intellgence agent in my country (usa), did not see that its more profitable to the western world to have a greater Serbia then Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro or Macedonia. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It's called double dipping .USA tells you can't decide your future,we USA will decide you must join Europe and stop being bumchumps with Russian's, and cannot live together and join Serbia mother land.
That comes or commanded by the land of the free country.Hey not Banja Luka Parliament.

Slavko

pre 8 godina

1) Serbs were bombed into submission by NATO, an illegal global act that also violated NATO's charter that states the purpose of NATO is to come to a member state's defense IF ATTACKED.

2) The Serb republic in Bosnia did not sign the racist Dayton Peace Accord; it was imposed on them.

3) Serbs have the same right as any other people in this world to the United Nations charter clause of self-determination, as they had exercised it in a 1991 referendum for the establishment of a Serb republic.

4) The Serb republic in Bosnia to this day is occupied by western Europe. The Dayton Peace Accord does not allow Serbs to make their own decisions without the approval of the nations that had bombed them into submission in 1995.

5) If the US Ambassador wants freedom in the Serb republic then let the Serb republic adopt the U.S. Constitution. The Serbs could show the U.S. how to vote for elected judges, just like sheriffs in the U.S.


6) FDR America's foreign service haven't allowed freedom in the Serb republic because that wouldn't allow the western tyrants to rule over the Serbs like the Ottoman Turks did for centuries. After a quarter century FDR Americans and western Europe continue to support WWII fascism of Croats, and to this day continues to support the racist Bosnian Muslim movement of Alija Izetbegovic whom was imprisoned for trying to create an Islamic state in Bosnia, and succeeded once Yugoslavia became a democracy in 1990.

MikeD

pre 8 godina

It will be a lot tougher to build another US army base if all entities separate. The only corruption here is from those who protest too much.

slavavelikasrbija

pre 8 godina

Is fatty Dodik going to make his banana republic part Serbia. Smart serbs should know that this means lower living standards, higher taxes and eventually greek type default.

Lau Hu

pre 8 godina

The people has right for self determination. Outsiders "one world government " must stay out of there once for all. The shame less enemas again play with the fire from outside . The will be part of it unavoidable . The big enemas pursue their policy "me and I " for any price

DD

pre 8 godina

"The future of this country and all of its citizens lies with continued integration with the European Union...It is now up to the entity's (RS) leadership to choose between progress, or political and economic isolation."

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL. This is all a joke. It is corruption on all sides. Let RS gain independence and then you can do as you please with the rest of Bosnia. I am tired of the hypocritical perspectives and comments. Bosnia is a failed state and the Dayton Agreement was written up by Westerners who do not understand the history of the Balkans. Lets change it.

factman

pre 8 godina

Sounds like there are differing interpretations of what Dayton means?

Who would have thought it is illegal to have a vote from the people?

Otners had referendums.

Sounds anti-Democratic.

Some are allowed to have referendums, and others are not allowed to have them?

Guest

pre 8 godina

This is something that has been anticipated by U.S. government long ago regarding Albanian population left out of borders of Albania and Kosovo. Same goes for Serbs and Croatians. Unfortunatley, the balkan borders have no alternative but to be redrawn. It is the only hope to bring peace and stability to balkan area since it is obvious they cannot coexist with different nationalities. Bosnia will open the door to Albania,Croatia, and Serbia to unite their own people within its borders. This time it will be through wars, but diplomacy I hope that's the case.

DD

pre 8 godina

"The future of this country and all of its citizens lies with continued integration with the European Union...It is now up to the entity's (RS) leadership to choose between progress, or political and economic isolation."

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL. This is all a joke. It is corruption on all sides. Let RS gain independence and then you can do as you please with the rest of Bosnia. I am tired of the hypocritical perspectives and comments. Bosnia is a failed state and the Dayton Agreement was written up by Westerners who do not understand the history of the Balkans. Lets change it.

factman

pre 8 godina

Sounds like there are differing interpretations of what Dayton means?

Who would have thought it is illegal to have a vote from the people?

Otners had referendums.

Sounds anti-Democratic.

Some are allowed to have referendums, and others are not allowed to have them?

Guest

pre 8 godina

This is something that has been anticipated by U.S. government long ago regarding Albanian population left out of borders of Albania and Kosovo. Same goes for Serbs and Croatians. Unfortunatley, the balkan borders have no alternative but to be redrawn. It is the only hope to bring peace and stability to balkan area since it is obvious they cannot coexist with different nationalities. Bosnia will open the door to Albania,Croatia, and Serbia to unite their own people within its borders. This time it will be through wars, but diplomacy I hope that's the case.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

The Russians has no right to vote for freedom in Eastern Ukraine.
The Serbians has no right to vote for Freedom in Eastern Bosnia.

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.

Slavko

pre 8 godina

1) Serbs were bombed into submission by NATO, an illegal global act that also violated NATO's charter that states the purpose of NATO is to come to a member state's defense IF ATTACKED.

2) The Serb republic in Bosnia did not sign the racist Dayton Peace Accord; it was imposed on them.

3) Serbs have the same right as any other people in this world to the United Nations charter clause of self-determination, as they had exercised it in a 1991 referendum for the establishment of a Serb republic.

4) The Serb republic in Bosnia to this day is occupied by western Europe. The Dayton Peace Accord does not allow Serbs to make their own decisions without the approval of the nations that had bombed them into submission in 1995.

5) If the US Ambassador wants freedom in the Serb republic then let the Serb republic adopt the U.S. Constitution. The Serbs could show the U.S. how to vote for elected judges, just like sheriffs in the U.S.


6) FDR America's foreign service haven't allowed freedom in the Serb republic because that wouldn't allow the western tyrants to rule over the Serbs like the Ottoman Turks did for centuries. After a quarter century FDR Americans and western Europe continue to support WWII fascism of Croats, and to this day continues to support the racist Bosnian Muslim movement of Alija Izetbegovic whom was imprisoned for trying to create an Islamic state in Bosnia, and succeeded once Yugoslavia became a democracy in 1990.

Lau Hu

pre 8 godina

The people has right for self determination. Outsiders "one world government " must stay out of there once for all. The shame less enemas again play with the fire from outside . The will be part of it unavoidable . The big enemas pursue their policy "me and I " for any price

slavavelikasrbija

pre 8 godina

Is fatty Dodik going to make his banana republic part Serbia. Smart serbs should know that this means lower living standards, higher taxes and eventually greek type default.

MikeD

pre 8 godina

It will be a lot tougher to build another US army base if all entities separate. The only corruption here is from those who protest too much.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What is happening here is that the only side that want to stick to the original letter of the Dayton Agreement are Republika Srpska. Both Bosniaks and Croats feel Dayton is harmful for their national interests and RS is the one trying to preserve what was agreed upon without any further centralization.

There's no reason why Bosnia cant be a loose federation like Yugoslavia. If not, there's no reason why it should really exist at all.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Ah yes, the Dayton Accords the most beloved and hated document associated with Bosnia, a country no one wants but prefers to keep together to avoid anyone benefiting from its dissolution.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It's called double dipping .USA tells you can't decide your future,we USA will decide you must join Europe and stop being bumchumps with Russian's, and cannot live together and join Serbia mother land.
That comes or commanded by the land of the free country.Hey not Banja Luka Parliament.

Danny

pre 8 godina

Im suprised that somewhere some intellgence agent in my country (usa), did not see that its more profitable to the western world to have a greater Serbia then Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro or Macedonia. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.

Mrgude

pre 8 godina

The audacity of the these American so called diplomats knows no bounds. So having forced 3 different peoples to forcibly share a non starter of a country they complain when one community wants to carry out a referendum.Perhaps the black community in the United States should undertake a referendum to exit the apartheid system they are locked into.

think again

pre 8 godina

. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.
(Danny, 17 July 2015 01:15)

Have a feeling that your application at the CIA was never given any credence!!
Thank God the US saw that the greater Serbia plan was not only detrimental to the region but any association with it would have been both an economic and political disaster.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL.
(DD, 16 July 2015 14:37)
]Why ask the question when it is apparent you know the answer, as you stated.
The whole reason that Kosovo could not be reintegrated into Serbia is simple that following the enactment of 1244, Serbia has done nothing, nada, zilch, to show that they would be ready to reintegrate Kosovo into Serbia with the Albanians there as free and equal citizens. Serbia has maintained their stance, even today that they want to land without any Albanians on it, or at most the Albanians could stay as long as they learn their place as an oppressed sect of Serbia without equal rights and subject to total SErbian dominance.
So yes the whole reason IS Serbs are evil and there will never be a Serbian controlled Kosovo again.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Without reading the entire Dayton Agreement neither I nor anyone else is in a position comment on whether this referendum violates it. I am assuming that the US believes that undermining state level institutions that Dayton created, by asking permission from the RS public to ignore their rulings, is dangerous and could lead to a substantive breach of Dayton rather than a potential one. Personally I would let Dodik fritter away taxpayers money on this charade and then ignore him and carry on as usual. The outcome will not be binding on anyone, anymore than the Greek referendum was on creditors. It is rhetoric and an attempt to deflect attention away from an ailing economy.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.
(Arn.Sweden., 17 July 2015 12:12)
==============================
Not true. Everyone has the right like Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Macedonia. It's only Serbs who are not allowed to break away from anyone.

slavavelikasrbija

pre 8 godina

Is fatty Dodik going to make his banana republic part Serbia. Smart serbs should know that this means lower living standards, higher taxes and eventually greek type default.

DD

pre 8 godina

"The future of this country and all of its citizens lies with continued integration with the European Union...It is now up to the entity's (RS) leadership to choose between progress, or political and economic isolation."

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL. This is all a joke. It is corruption on all sides. Let RS gain independence and then you can do as you please with the rest of Bosnia. I am tired of the hypocritical perspectives and comments. Bosnia is a failed state and the Dayton Agreement was written up by Westerners who do not understand the history of the Balkans. Lets change it.

factman

pre 8 godina

Sounds like there are differing interpretations of what Dayton means?

Who would have thought it is illegal to have a vote from the people?

Otners had referendums.

Sounds anti-Democratic.

Some are allowed to have referendums, and others are not allowed to have them?

think again

pre 8 godina

. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.
(Danny, 17 July 2015 01:15)

Have a feeling that your application at the CIA was never given any credence!!
Thank God the US saw that the greater Serbia plan was not only detrimental to the region but any association with it would have been both an economic and political disaster.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

The Russians has no right to vote for freedom in Eastern Ukraine.
The Serbians has no right to vote for Freedom in Eastern Bosnia.

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.

Guest

pre 8 godina

This is something that has been anticipated by U.S. government long ago regarding Albanian population left out of borders of Albania and Kosovo. Same goes for Serbs and Croatians. Unfortunatley, the balkan borders have no alternative but to be redrawn. It is the only hope to bring peace and stability to balkan area since it is obvious they cannot coexist with different nationalities. Bosnia will open the door to Albania,Croatia, and Serbia to unite their own people within its borders. This time it will be through wars, but diplomacy I hope that's the case.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It's called double dipping .USA tells you can't decide your future,we USA will decide you must join Europe and stop being bumchumps with Russian's, and cannot live together and join Serbia mother land.
That comes or commanded by the land of the free country.Hey not Banja Luka Parliament.

Slavko

pre 8 godina

1) Serbs were bombed into submission by NATO, an illegal global act that also violated NATO's charter that states the purpose of NATO is to come to a member state's defense IF ATTACKED.

2) The Serb republic in Bosnia did not sign the racist Dayton Peace Accord; it was imposed on them.

3) Serbs have the same right as any other people in this world to the United Nations charter clause of self-determination, as they had exercised it in a 1991 referendum for the establishment of a Serb republic.

4) The Serb republic in Bosnia to this day is occupied by western Europe. The Dayton Peace Accord does not allow Serbs to make their own decisions without the approval of the nations that had bombed them into submission in 1995.

5) If the US Ambassador wants freedom in the Serb republic then let the Serb republic adopt the U.S. Constitution. The Serbs could show the U.S. how to vote for elected judges, just like sheriffs in the U.S.


6) FDR America's foreign service haven't allowed freedom in the Serb republic because that wouldn't allow the western tyrants to rule over the Serbs like the Ottoman Turks did for centuries. After a quarter century FDR Americans and western Europe continue to support WWII fascism of Croats, and to this day continues to support the racist Bosnian Muslim movement of Alija Izetbegovic whom was imprisoned for trying to create an Islamic state in Bosnia, and succeeded once Yugoslavia became a democracy in 1990.

Mrgude

pre 8 godina

The audacity of the these American so called diplomats knows no bounds. So having forced 3 different peoples to forcibly share a non starter of a country they complain when one community wants to carry out a referendum.Perhaps the black community in the United States should undertake a referendum to exit the apartheid system they are locked into.

Danny

pre 8 godina

Im suprised that somewhere some intellgence agent in my country (usa), did not see that its more profitable to the western world to have a greater Serbia then Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro or Macedonia. A BIGGER Serbia as part of a union with the USA would benefit the region and world. Hmmm? Maybe the CIA should hire better next time.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Without reading the entire Dayton Agreement neither I nor anyone else is in a position comment on whether this referendum violates it. I am assuming that the US believes that undermining state level institutions that Dayton created, by asking permission from the RS public to ignore their rulings, is dangerous and could lead to a substantive breach of Dayton rather than a potential one. Personally I would let Dodik fritter away taxpayers money on this charade and then ignore him and carry on as usual. The outcome will not be binding on anyone, anymore than the Greek referendum was on creditors. It is rhetoric and an attempt to deflect attention away from an ailing economy.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What is happening here is that the only side that want to stick to the original letter of the Dayton Agreement are Republika Srpska. Both Bosniaks and Croats feel Dayton is harmful for their national interests and RS is the one trying to preserve what was agreed upon without any further centralization.

There's no reason why Bosnia cant be a loose federation like Yugoslavia. If not, there's no reason why it should really exist at all.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Ah yes, the Dayton Accords the most beloved and hated document associated with Bosnia, a country no one wants but prefers to keep together to avoid anyone benefiting from its dissolution.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Are you serious? An ultimatum against the RS is America's and the EU's view of what democracy is. How come Kosovo could not be integrated with Serbia? No ultimatum was given to Albanians in Kosovo who seek independence, BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THE SERBS ARE EVIL.
(DD, 16 July 2015 14:37)
]Why ask the question when it is apparent you know the answer, as you stated.
The whole reason that Kosovo could not be reintegrated into Serbia is simple that following the enactment of 1244, Serbia has done nothing, nada, zilch, to show that they would be ready to reintegrate Kosovo into Serbia with the Albanians there as free and equal citizens. Serbia has maintained their stance, even today that they want to land without any Albanians on it, or at most the Albanians could stay as long as they learn their place as an oppressed sect of Serbia without equal rights and subject to total SErbian dominance.
So yes the whole reason IS Serbs are evil and there will never be a Serbian controlled Kosovo again.

Lau Hu

pre 8 godina

The people has right for self determination. Outsiders "one world government " must stay out of there once for all. The shame less enemas again play with the fire from outside . The will be part of it unavoidable . The big enemas pursue their policy "me and I " for any price

MikeD

pre 8 godina

It will be a lot tougher to build another US army base if all entities separate. The only corruption here is from those who protest too much.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Nobody has right to - Bla-bla-bla - according to the US.

Go to Hell US !.
(Arn.Sweden., 17 July 2015 12:12)
==============================
Not true. Everyone has the right like Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Macedonia. It's only Serbs who are not allowed to break away from anyone.