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Saturday, 11.07.2015.

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Vucic attacked, hit with stones in Srebrenica (video)

PM Aleksandar Vucic and his delegation have been attacked with stones and other objects during their visit to the Srebrenica memorial complex in Potocari.

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a New day

pre 8 godina

Serbs are busy to condemn Bosnia for not protecting Vucic, who had quite a large entourage of security staff. But what was he attacked with?
Stones and water bottles! So Bosnia should go through and remove all stones from cemetaries???
This was not a mass operation where people were armed, no shots were fired, no bombs were detonated, no weapons were used, so it seems like they were able to keep it reasonably safe. This WAS a memorial for victims of Serb forces so there was no way to keep every single person who still harbors resentment against Serbs and Serb leaders, esp those who actually were participating in the very same government that were responsible for this massacre. And if he did make the comments attributed to him. In view of most recent events, he should have never gone. It is good he did, but like he said
""I have never been interested in security assessments," he told reporters,"
But again who were the winners here?
A Serb delegation goes to a memorial for victims OF Serbs, and walk away as the "VICTIMS".

Peggy

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
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He was invited. Do you believe that it's ok to invite someone then attack him?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbs are worse than animals by assassinating unarmed Bosnian children with their little hands tied behind their backs on empty stomachs shot in the back of their heads by Serbian professional military COWARDS.

Their only "crime" was being a Bosnian Moslem......

Serbs have no shame.

And to this day continue to live in denial.

And you want to reconcile?

How ?

Joni

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)

Animals - are they who shoot with stones....?? I think that they are to hurt!!
The so-called " SERBS" will shoot with a heavy artillery... they are a civilized people. So they do not fall as down nooo, to besmirch their hands with stones....NOOOO!!!
They will use "grenades".
I'm sure!

andif

pre 8 godina

Why doesn't Serbia impose sanctions. Trade with companies in Sprska who have no connection to rest of that country. I suppose also that Serbian tourists should only visit Sprska.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Clacton Town: On 27th March 2015 the United Nations Human Rights Council adopted a resolution on genocide introduced by the Armenian Delegation. Numerous debates have been held in the main chamber about the events of 1915 and a number of Parliaments around the world have passed motions about the genocide, notably in France recently. The fact that the massacre of 1995 was so well documented and the events leading up to it captured on camera makes it difficult to dispute what happened. Such technology was not available in 1915 and makes it easier for those who wish to do so to deny that there was a genocide.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.
(Bam Bam, 12 July 2015 00:47)
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Not that you had any credibility before, but now you have really soiled yourself.

icj1

pre 8 godina

What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not?
(UK, 12 July 2015 14:40)

The reason is that Germany has not questioned that the slaughter of millions of human beings on the name of the German people during WW2 constituted war crimes and crimes against humanity.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive
(Someone, 12 July 2015 13:00)

Sure, but even if some people (who happened to be of bosniak ethnicity and muslim religion - not all Bosniak muslims) perpetrated those crimes, how does that justify the genocide committed in Srebrenica?!!!

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

(rustedshoehorn, 11 July 2015 17:55)

It's not often I take the time to respond to narrow minded observations and I'd personally much prefer not to.

Anyway I'll allow you the luxury of a response. First with regard to your analogy of Alexander Vucic as a psychopath I find deeply distasteful. Alexander is in essence I believe a good human being and has taken upon himself an exceptionally difficult job and that is to ensure a better quality of life for the average Serbian citizen. A task he has performed well given the circumstances. He regrets some of the things that were said in the past and of some of the associations he may have built.

One horrible thing that can be drawn from this unfortunate incident is he now knows what it feels like to be hunted down although not on a scale of what happened 20 years ago thank God. I'm sure he'll reflect on those feelings and perhaps this will give him the empathy he needs in order to reconcile with those who have clearly suffered. Some from the same experience.

Personally I would have preferred that some of those ministers in his cabinet took those stones for they quite clearly deserve them.

rote

pre 8 godina

Stones are used by those with a Stone Age mentality.
(Colonials, 12 July 2015 14:53)

No my friend in Islam stones as well as boots are very symbolic. Because stones are used to beat the Evil during their Hajj to Mecca. So it was a pre-planned action. In Langley they know what a stone means for the Muslims.

UK

A very good comment ! I would only add that Serbia must not beg pardon every year. Once they confessed and it’s enough. At least before the other sides do the same.


Someone

“but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years … “

Nobody is interested in it because Serbs were already appointed as bad guys. As well as the Russian in Ukraine , Assad in Syria ect. Have you heard that today 17 battalion of the Pravi Sector abandoned the Donbass Front and started to block the roads in Ukraine ? I believe you haven’t. Because those are good guys who fight the Russian virtual invaders. Same in Srebrenica , same with the Storm operation and Kosovo robbery.

rote

pre 8 godina

“To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale. So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.”

(icj1, 12 July 2015 18:38)

I agree about Hitler. Everything else is hypocrisy. As you must know Stalin’s repressions started in 1936 when his wife committed suicide. And we have exact figures of the executed between 1936 and 1953. They are some 890 000 including the criminals, the traitors during the war ect. Not so much really. Concerning Srebrenica tragedy it was a war crime to be prosecuted together with the multiple less advertised crimes against the Serbs.

The Polish tragedy that you’ve learned from me is a bigger tragedy not only because they killed 80 000 – 100 000 but because they killed also all the children, women and the old. They killed not only Poles but all non-Ukrainians including the Jews, Russians, Armenians, Greek ect. Poles simply were the majority in Wolyn Region of Ukraine. This was a real genocide and it lasted till we destroyed the bastards in Berlin and their vassals in Galitsis.

Unfortunately military crimes like in Srebrenica happened too often in the history including those arranged by your Albanian bastards. If you have other questions you are welcome.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s"

"My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart. "

Bilbao

Getting rid of people from the 90s isn't nessesarily the problem. Most people writing comment here were probably to small to remember the war and wouldn't mind if there was another one. They don't know the horrors it. I think therefore leaders who know what war Is are more valuable. At the same time they can be assosiate with issues that bothers the other side and can therefore also hinder better relations just like you said. I guess we have to wait for them to get old and die before the balkans can start fresh.

icj1

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ?
(rote, 11 July 2015 21:59)

To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale.

So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.

uli

pre 8 godina

Mason Stevens. There is god and there is prove of it. Read 10 Commandments, Christianity and Islam both recognize 10 commandments but there are brained wash idiots and ignorant that don't. One out of 10 biggest offenses you can have to god is to kill someone, apparently you are ignorant and don't know much about religion. Who kill other people goes to hell morally, legally, spiritually and according to both Christian and Islam. Churches in USA practice only good things and nothing bad comes out of religion, its all about what you believe and deviating from religion that put you in a deep hole. Religion is peace not killing. ISIS is a terrorist organization.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Don't be surprised if Vucic gets summoned to the Hague. A Bosnian Muslim rock was damaged yesterday by Vucic's head and therefore he committed genocide. If you disagree, you're a genocide denier.

Clacton Town

pre 8 godina

11 million Muslims have been violently killed since 1948. 90% of them at the hands of other Muslims but lets blame the serbs for that too

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.
(MikeC, 12 July 2015 08:36)

I agree with you he went there it was hard for him issue in balkans is that its not trusted 20years from asking to kill 100 Bosnians for each Serb.

However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s it is strange to me that Serbia has no one better than (dacic, Nikolic and Vucic) or Kosovo does not have someone better than Thaqi....

All that fighting for what, in all region will be in EU and live and work together. People in Balkans are fed hate by these same leaders. My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart.

We shall see what future brings....

Flawed Logic

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)

Germany has. Idiot.

Demi

pre 8 godina

The wolf dressed in cheap clothing coulden't fool the cheaps and ran like an little dog.

But the bosniak people are no better than the serbs. They are the same people and only their faith are different. Some of the 8000 killed were bosniak soldiers running away from responsobility. They too killed serbs.

But no matter what no human being should be killed with their hands tied. Thats a weak act and nothing different from what isis is doing today.

Serbs should reflect over them self when their sons and fathers killed small children and elderly in the wars in f. Yugo.

UK

pre 8 godina

Before I comment, I would like to point out that I have no specific allegiance with any particular side in this situation. I simply want to say it as I see it.
First look at how the mothers of the bereaved met with Vucic. That shows incredible character and was the one truly sincere act of reconciliation on show during this whole episode. If they can act in such a way then I would suggest that anyone else has no excuse for not being able to show a similar level of humanity. Vucic, apparently, went there to show respect and to try to further the cause of reconciliation. Many terrible things have happened in the past but at some point everyone must look to the future and try to make it better than the past. Accusations and stone throwing are not the way forward. Respect and dialogue are the way forward. Look at pretty much any country's history, my own included, and you will find acts of violence against others. Can you ever imagine the UK PM being treated this way on a visit to India or to Dresden? What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not? Reconciliation and an acceptance that we all need to look to the future and find ways of living peacefully together. I would suggest that when someone extends the hand of reconciliation it should be met with the same courage and grace as was the case with the mothers in this instance. Truly an example to us all and deeply humbling.

Someone

pre 8 godina

I see a lot of people defending the actions happened on that event,thats sick.
under the srenrenica "massacre" muslims tried to flee from bosnia to serbia,the muslims killed their own people while the serbians in serbia offered help to the muslims who fled from the war territories of bosnia,there are a lot of stories from muslim people who fled to Serbia because of the terrors that were made by their own people on themsleves.
The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive,oh , and not even muslims could be saved from such savagery from the bosniak muslim in the command of naser oric, it often resulted in them fleeing to serbia because they had more protection on the side of their enemy than on their own side

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?"

Bilbao

You albanians presume that if the Hague come up with a verdict one must be guilty. Same as Srebrenica. The ICJ decides its genocide therefore it must be. I believe Thaci, Oric, Haradinaj, Milosevic etc did some horrible things. Some were sentenced some were not perhaps due to lack of evidence perhaps for political reasons. However, we can't just acuse every person on the other side for being a warcriminal, including myseldning. Vucic was a radical once but so what? He hasn't killed anyone as far as I know. And isn't it better that he turned away from this nationalism and instead work for better relations amongst Balkan nations? Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?
(Atila, 11 July 2015 16:30)

Absolutely. It doesn't work, the Albanians hate us.. Plus different language and religion.. Let's face it mono ethnic countries are far more stable than the alternative.. Growing up We've never been taught that Albanians are evil, where the Albanians are taught that the Slavs took over their home land from birth and they are stuck in that mentally, despite the Albanians committing absolute appalling atrocities under ottoman and nazi rule, they keep harping on about victimisation.. Yes absolutely divorce now..

uli

pre 8 godina

I used to come to this website a few years ago when Kosovo Declared Independence and periodically I kept an eye on the website when major news event related to Albania and Kosovo would show up. I found it entertaining to see other people reactions from both sides and all sides as I see some claimed foreigners who apparently are obsessed with Serbia. Please stop and don’t foul yourself. I am American Citizen as well as Albanian but I don’t come here and act or say “The American guy from Chicago”, what I have learned is simple. In 15 years overseas I have changed as a human been and I see things differently, it doesn’t matter anymore to me if the other person is Albanian, Serbian or any kind of ethnicity. What I want to see in this website and I was hoping to see is simple justice and open mindless from everyone so we can learn from each other and put justice first before nationality. We live in the 21 century and it is sad to see so much hate towards other people as in the 17 century. No matter what nationality we are, we are humans for god sake. We all should speak up for injustice and should stand up for the truth. As Balkan has open borders most of you people in here have closed your mind and they need to open their minds. I was happy to see Prime Minister Rama meeting Vucic, the first step towards reconciliation is talking to each other.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@peggy

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.

Mason Stevens

pre 8 godina

Someone needs to take a history book into this area. These people are all the same people. Go back far enough to 12 13 generations brothers were split from each other and muslimised. These people are all slavs/serbs. What else do they think they are, Immigrants from turkey. These are muslim serbs. Nothing else. They only know one language (serbian) they look exactly like serbs. This all comes back to the most evil power on earth. Religion. Nothing has taken more lives, killed innocents, deprived rights. Taken land. Separated people and torched our humanity and children on earth.
f@#k you christanity, f@#k you islam. F@#k all religions. Let us live as children of earth. While religion exists we are all doom. How can we all be so blind??????
There is nothing scarier on earth then a man believing his killing is justified by his belief in a higher power. His madness then would know no bounds.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Count of Kosova: I made no mention of Vucic's motive whatsoever and have no idea what it was, neither do I care. My comment was intended to draw the distinction between the behaviour of the mob and that of the bereaved mothers.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 23:06)

I did not say more than show what he said promoted killing.

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Bilbao

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.

Josh

pre 8 godina

This made me chuckle (and made my day).

What more of a message does this send to the world about Serbia?

Your government and country no longer applies to Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Kosovo, or Slovenia.

Just... go away.
Back to Russia, preferably.

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

one final thing roberto, because you obviously went right to the comment section:

The hand of reconciliation was offered and accepted by Hatidzde Mehmedovic and other Members of the Mothers of Srebrenica to Vucic. It was deeply moving to see these women who lost their sons, husbands, and brothers, actually engage in the type of reconciliation with the head of the former opposing country as they did. All this would have been favorably reported and the ceremonies would have been completed with the dignity the day deserves had it not been for the rioters who made it into a spectacle, whose actions were condemned by international officials but whom you support for your own childish reasons.

At the end, you really don't care about peace because if that were to actually happen, you'd have nothing to talk about. Keep convincing yourself you're not the one walking around with his head up his ass.

rote

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ? Of course not and we all know why. Because all western media are concentrated on Srebrenica where Serbs were appointed as bad guys while Benderasts in Kiev are still freedom fighters. What is it but double standards ? Serbs let the Muslims leave the town with arms while in Volin massacre of 1943 people in 100 Polish villages and towns had not a single chance. Well if the Bosniaks or anybody else is going to replay the war you are welcome. This time Russia will pay out the debt for 1999 and no jihadists will save Bosniaks or Albanians. All will in asphalt and you will have thousands of volunteers instead of dozens. So best if we all calm down now and ask ourselves how come that the Yakees play with us as if we are Africans on palms trees ?

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

Ok Mike so by your train of thought here then Thaqi is ok as well as he was not sent to hague?

Vucic was ultranationalist Seselj party and carried beer for Seselj he has just changed his gear better suits. Did he say we will kill 100 Bosnian Muslims for each Serb? Now he did not pick up gun but his intentions were clear

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqv9CJbd3U]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBN-ohybIQ]

And few months ago was there begging in US.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wV0iuSSAE] look for your self

[https://www.google.com/search?q=vucic+nosi+pivo&espv=2&biw=1309&bih=707&tbm=isch&imgil=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%253Bq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fzokstersomething.com%25252F2014%25252F10%25252F27%25252Fvucic-odrzao-predavanje-u-londonu-nosio-sam-gajbice-piva-seselju-i-nikolicu%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%252Cq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%252C_&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D&ved=0CCwQyjc&ei=4XChVaSzCIO7ogSOjaCYCg#imgrc=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%3A&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D]

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.
(ned taylor, 11 July 2015 15:08)

Ned,
I agree with you for the most part, however, your assumption that Vucic's motives were sincere is something I do not buy. I've been dealing with Serbs for some time now. I believe this was orchestrated by Serbia to turn out the way it did, so as to discredit the bosniaks. This is the standard M.O. used by Serbia to make them appear to be the victims. I am sure that after this incident is investigated it will turn out that Serbs set this up. Many examples come to mind, e.g. the Panda Cafe massacre of 1998, the Martinovic bottle "rape" case of 1985-1987 among the most famous. All these cases were later determined to have been deviously planned and committed by the Serbian gov't. As a matter of fact, the Serb gov't eventually admitted to having been responsible. These and other cases are easily verifiable. This was planned well in advance by the Serb authorities.

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

roberto, you're like one of those Westboro Baptist Church members whose only goal in life is to invite themselves to other peoples' events and make such an ass of yourself you hope someone finally beats the shit out of you so you could turn around, play victim for being assaulted, and sue them.

The hand of reconciliation you keep claiming to support was offered. It was rejected and you say good for Bosnia? You sick little man. You sick, twisted, petty, pathetic, poseur of a man. You must suffer from levels of autism that science hasn't even been able to classify yet. I mock your hypocrisy for fun because you so ask for it with your narcissistic douchebaggery, but deep down, you really are a disgusting human being and a fraud to all those people who truly do work hard and diligently towards reconciliation in the Balkans.

Disgusting!

pre 8 godina

Serbs try to extend the hand of peace, and in return they are pelted with stones! This is truly sick! How can Serbs live with these backward savages!
This savage attack proves once again that Bosnia is an abomination and cannot exist! Republika Srpska needs to declare independence ASAP!

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Sasa P: 1. Vucic rather foolishly stated he wasn't concerned about security. 2. Srebrenica is in the RS and therefore it was the job of fellow Serbs to protect Mr Vucic and to be aware of potential threats long before they developed; they failed on both counts. That is not to in any way justify what transpired but you asked about protection for Vucic so I've provided you with an answer.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

roberto said "...They are our enemy."

What a hate-mongering buffoon.

You sit on you little lily white ass in the USA and encourage people of the Balkans to continue to fight and hate their neighbor thousands of miles from your sunny California.
You don't live their daily hand to mouth existence nor fear for your children's future.
You are no different than those you hate because you encourage others to do the same.
You are an enemy of peace in the Balkans.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

A good impartial article here about Srebrenica by Neil Clark. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/273142-srebrenica-massacre-anniversary-balkans/

MikeC

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.

Srbin

pre 8 godina

so, now we can see who are savages, these people will never leave 90's.Fellow Serbian brothers and bots, please comment here also, i notice that only serbian enemies comment here so far.

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

Based on the logic presented by these Islamic jihadist posting yet again on a Serbian property,.Serbian should stone the Austrian, German, and or Hungarian prime ministers when they travel to Belgrade for genocide committed during WW1 & WW2,. let's not also foget our Ustache Nazi loving Croats too? Funny further, how the international community treats these Muslim terrorists with kid gloves, never allowing to offend, yet the same ideology West bombs in Syria and Iraq lives in Bosnia. in 90s and today.

Reader

pre 8 godina

Tadic also went to Srebrenica and was not received like this. So it must be Vucic they have a grudge with. Why one wonders? Is it because of his nazi-like past "kill 100 muslims for evey serb"? Or maybe because of the whole UNSC resolution story?

factmam

pre 8 godina

Roberto:

Diplomatic incident

Assasination attempt with intent to inflict bodily harm by propelling large blunt force objects (multiple times) with great force at the face and head of a foreign minister who came to reconcile.

You just dug yourself a sh%t hole in which you're going to sit a long time.

Congrats!

Bob

pre 8 godina

Good that Vucic went.

Good that we all realise the deep hurts that people suffer.

Understand the stone throwers even though they were not right to do it.

Do go again Vucic if you really mean it.

The interior ministers should resign for his spurious 'assassination' comments. He does not understand.

pavle

pre 8 godina

This shows the difference between Islam and Christianity. How are you vendictive judgemental muslims so sure that he is not sorry. We all know muslims certainly are not sorry for what that gangster Oric did.

Uli

pre 8 godina

Peggy, I don't know why you have so hate inside you , relax, pray and forgive. You express to much hate on this forum. I have noticed that for years. As an Albanian who live abroad for many years , as a Christian I support Vucic in this matter. He went there to say sorry to what happen in the past. In the main time, if you think about the people who have lost loved ones it is hard for them to forgive him. Its nature of human been. Put your self on Bosniak shoes before you make any comments. Think first. Vucic is a good prime minister and he is trying to move from the past but it will take generations . I am glad at least that Vucic has changed .. Once upon a time it used to be some one named Drashkovic.. guy was all about war and hate but he came to senses one day. I think majority of Serbs are coming to senses.

Mendo

pre 8 godina

Even though terrible crimes/genocide was done in Srebrenica by the Serbs this is not how people should behave towards a neighbouring PM in front of the world. Don't know I'm confused and I know not all Serbs are brainwashed and at least Mr Vucic is trying to do better for the region even though he was part of the wars in ex-Yugo.

peggybaby

pre 8 godina

Savages, eh. Wasn't this the guy who was bombing civilians with the fourth largest army in Europe only to cry like a baby when tables were turned. I bet it took extra amount of booze for him to even show up there.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

The real victims welcome Vucic,but where is the Bosnian Security force to protect Vucic and his delegates as well , the Slovenian Delegates.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Amazing some of the comments here from some really ignorant and stupid individuals. What did Vucic have to gain from this visit? Absolutely nothing. He came to show respect and this is how he was treated. We have nothing to gain from reconciliation with either bosnjaks, croats or even less the albanians. We give a hand of friendship and are spit at. It just shows that nothing serbs do is good enough. Our neighbours will hate us not for what we do but for who we are. Fortunately for us we are stronger then all of them put together and there is nothing they can do to us unless we let them.

Arnaut

pre 8 godina

Bosnian reaction of throwing stones toward Vucic can be justified as Serbia still behaves all high and mighty with no regard to what's really happened in Bosnia. Serbian political elite, which consists of hard-line nationalists, is reluctant to accept the bitter truth that in Srebrenica, serbs committed genocide. no serbian official has ever condemned genocide nor has asked for apologize to the Bosnian people. What's really upsetting is that Serbs continue to keep large chunks of Bosnia's territory - the so-called Republika Srpska makes it difficult for obtaining any peace. The first step toward reconciling is to accept Serbian ungodly deeds on innocent civilians. yet serbs seems very far from behaving in a civilized manner: most of them perceive themselves as 'victim' of an well-thought-out plot of USA, Croatia, Bosnia and Albanians. Come to think of it, Vucic's visit should have been cancelled because the wounds of many Bosnians are still fresh. Accordingly, some pressure must be placed upon Belgrade to hold accountable those who slaughtered innocent Bosnians. The same goes for Kosova who suffered under Serbian yoke from 1912. More than 10.000 Albanians were killed, exterminated and massacred while a million other were expelled from their homes.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?"

Atila

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is no surprise - Vucic and his fellow chetniks did everything in their power to deny and minimize the genocide in Srebrenica that was waged in their name, by their soldiers and 'paramilitaries' - supervised and paid for by Belgrade. Not just a few bad actors but the state, and Vucic, Nikolic and Dacic were all a part of that Greater Serbia project. Mladic, the main executioner, is still on their payroll! They are our enemy.

I said many times that Vucic was not welcome, especially after the debacle at the UN with the Serbian instigated veto by Putin-Russia. If Vucic had a shred of integrity he would have stayed far away. Instead this offensive Chetnik leader chose to attend and was welcomed with an appropriate and fully understandable response. His mere presence at this ceremony was a despicable and aggressive act. And he was completely aware of it.

Back in Belgrade, a handful of good and progressive individuals - Serbs not Chetniks - chose to show their respect for the victims of Srebrenica through evocative exhibits and symbolic acts. Despite their repressive govt, despite the warped media there. They are the Serbs we need to honor and respect.

rustedshoehorn

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Just watched the video on RT. Check -> http://rt.com/news/273133-serbian-pm-injured-srebrenica/

The 20th anniversary of the massacre turns into a circus thanks to the Muslims. Obviously extremists don't want peace and reconciliation, much like those that post here. Division and hate is their only purpose.

Atila

pre 8 godina

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 17:10)

Mike I am with you that Bosnia Belongs to those there and as Bulgarian from Ohrid does not have anything to do with ppl in Bosnia ( this is between Serbs, Bosnians and Croats) to decide.

I am asking him as he is asking to split a country has nothing to do with.

I have huge problem with split of Yugoslavia it saddens me that split in 1990's to be together in in EU begging in 2020 how smart is that. Yugoslavia would have been a huge success if Nationalist in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia..... did not act today same nationalist went there he says he is reformed but I done beleive him.

Yugoslavian republics need fresh blood in poletical life as Vucic, isetbegovic, Thaci .... are misguided nationalist that are doing everything to win points to get in EU and keep ruling.

So Mike C the PHD what is wrong in what I said? you should not have anything to say either as you are American Serb living in Sweden why should u decide on Bosnia?

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Dear Alexander Vucic,

It is not for me to speak on behalf of Bosnia's Moslem population for I have not suffered like those who were present today in Srebrenica. Thank you first of all for coming, that in itself deserves recognition. And God willing some day in the future you can return and fulfill this exercise once again and leave peacefully, and should such a scenario present itself. I'll gladly take those rocks and stones for you.

Atila

pre 8 godina

Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 11 July 2015 15:05)

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

There is nothing wrong in stoning the devil !
(Bam Bam, 11 July 2015 14:49)
=====================
Then to Mecca and do it. Plenty of people do.
Vucic wasn't going to satisfy you savages no matter what he did. If he didn't go you would be shouting from the rooftops how he disrespects you and won't honour your dead. He went and he still didn't do the right thing. What exactly do you want?

Aga

pre 8 godina

Let me get this straight. The guy goes to Srebrnica to lay the flower, what is the small symbol of reconciliation. Instead of dialog some barbarian threw things on him....

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Allahu Akbar," and "Die, Chetnik

I don't know what Vucic is doing there? These savages don't want reconciliation, they want another war.
Thank God we have Republika Srpska!

When Jasenovac is considered genocide then so will Srebrenica.

Zmajl

pre 8 godina

Vuciic I think he shouldnt be that country very shame on him how come went there and got killed 8.000 people criminals should be each prisom who shot om them.

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)
I understand your point of view, after all if someone kills most of your family members and denies it ever happened, I know you yourself would bring them flowers and offer them tea and crumpets at your table right. That's what distinguishes YOU from these animals.

This was a staged event so once again Serbs can play the victim card,

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Vucic almost got ripped to pieces by mostly woman, and can one blame them! Vucic a prominent and key member of Serbia's most radical party new all about the atrocities & genocide being committed against the civilian population in Bosnia, where children woman, men, and elderly were systematically being ethnically cleansed, age and gender did not matter to the Serbian political elite and their fascist military machine, their ultimate goal was the creation of a ethnically pure greater Serbian superstate smack in the middle of Europe, all at the expense of innocent blood!

Serbia should start taking the necessary steps to heal the past wounds it so deeply created in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosova & Slovenia quickly, and not continue on the same policies of the past which as of today are only different by deception & slithery! We have radical Serbs still occupying 49% of Bosnian territory with a so called & self proclaimed RS republic which is only recognized by a still radical Serbia, we have radical Serb elements backed by radical Serbia proper continuing to limit the Republic of Kosova's movement in parts of northern Kosova where crime is rampant! The time has come for stability to be established in Southern Europe, the time has come for radical Serbia to finally be fully pacified, or another dark chapter of history could engulf Southern Europe yet again due to Serbian radicalism!

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Idiocracy Balkan style.. Rep srpska surely shall succeed from mini Yugoslavia.. 600 years of ottoman rule, Bosnians never had it so good.. WWII Bosnian nazis terrorised their neighbours. Serbs decided they didn't want to return to Bosnian/Ottoman rule, it didn't work.. Nor did Yuoslavia for the Bosnians.. Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.

eric

pre 8 godina

Vucic should see the video tape where he said "kill of the muslim bosniaks" and yet he goes to this genocidal ceremony that his people/friends committed. i'm no religious but this person is racist against muslims and that does not promote peace.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
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Srebrenica is in Republika Srpska so he can go there any time he wants. He was attacked by Muslim extremists who can't accept everyone has the right to disagree with the western created "genocide". It didn't pass through the UN so it is not internationally recognised. Only the US and EU, who were on the side of Muslims, have done so. If those extremists were smart, they would have thrown rocks at Clinton who told Izetbegovic that 5000 must die in Srebrenica to justify intervention.

rote

pre 8 godina

The Brits killed estimated 30 000 000 in their colonies and nobody talks about it. The USA also killed millions after WW2 ect. I follow this real tragedy of Srebrenica and find it very close to what we have about the so called Katyn tragedy. They talk only about only one side of the medal like we can see it around Srebrenica. I mean 1939 when 250 000 of the Polish troops retreated to the USSR where they were placed in 7 camps. Poles were and are utmost Russophobes and in 1920 had invaded Russia and tortured to death some 100 000 Soviet prisoners of war. But when in 1941 Hitler Polish prisoners became a problem and about 8% of them ( only officers and policemen) were executed. In 1943 Goebbels and in 1953 the USA revived the tragedy in their agitation. So today after 76 years the West is still blaming Russia. Meanwhile only 1 of the 7 camps was on the “Russian” soil and no executions were held there. Because Russians were pre-appointed as bad guys. No matter that 80% of time USSR was ruled by people from Georgia and Ukraine. Nothing can make them change their attitude. Seems that same is the fate of the Serbs. Nobody cares that Serbia was not directly involved to the war and that Muslim atrocities had provoked Srebrenica tragedy. Like the Russians Serbs a demonized and that’s it. So we have to be patient and firm. Vucic made a brave though rather a stupid trip so he regained my confidence.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

When you say that others have bad leaders and Serbs have changed Look at vucic 20 years ago so he has changed his uniform and wears better suits he is same. For those who do not understand in first video he says Kill 1 Serbin we will kill 100' of Bosnian Muslims .... person who cheered hate. Sad part here for people like Ari he is not nationalist enough.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnzu3Zxw4ak]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wukeupQk4eQ]

Peggy

pre 8 godina

There is nothing wrong in stoning the devil !
(Bam Bam, 11 July 2015 14:49)
=====================
Then to Mecca and do it. Plenty of people do.
Vucic wasn't going to satisfy you savages no matter what he did. If he didn't go you would be shouting from the rooftops how he disrespects you and won't honour your dead. He went and he still didn't do the right thing. What exactly do you want?

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Dear Alexander Vucic,

It is not for me to speak on behalf of Bosnia's Moslem population for I have not suffered like those who were present today in Srebrenica. Thank you first of all for coming, that in itself deserves recognition. And God willing some day in the future you can return and fulfill this exercise once again and leave peacefully, and should such a scenario present itself. I'll gladly take those rocks and stones for you.

rote

pre 8 godina

The Brits killed estimated 30 000 000 in their colonies and nobody talks about it. The USA also killed millions after WW2 ect. I follow this real tragedy of Srebrenica and find it very close to what we have about the so called Katyn tragedy. They talk only about only one side of the medal like we can see it around Srebrenica. I mean 1939 when 250 000 of the Polish troops retreated to the USSR where they were placed in 7 camps. Poles were and are utmost Russophobes and in 1920 had invaded Russia and tortured to death some 100 000 Soviet prisoners of war. But when in 1941 Hitler Polish prisoners became a problem and about 8% of them ( only officers and policemen) were executed. In 1943 Goebbels and in 1953 the USA revived the tragedy in their agitation. So today after 76 years the West is still blaming Russia. Meanwhile only 1 of the 7 camps was on the “Russian” soil and no executions were held there. Because Russians were pre-appointed as bad guys. No matter that 80% of time USSR was ruled by people from Georgia and Ukraine. Nothing can make them change their attitude. Seems that same is the fate of the Serbs. Nobody cares that Serbia was not directly involved to the war and that Muslim atrocities had provoked Srebrenica tragedy. Like the Russians Serbs a demonized and that’s it. So we have to be patient and firm. Vucic made a brave though rather a stupid trip so he regained my confidence.

Mason Stevens

pre 8 godina

Someone needs to take a history book into this area. These people are all the same people. Go back far enough to 12 13 generations brothers were split from each other and muslimised. These people are all slavs/serbs. What else do they think they are, Immigrants from turkey. These are muslim serbs. Nothing else. They only know one language (serbian) they look exactly like serbs. This all comes back to the most evil power on earth. Religion. Nothing has taken more lives, killed innocents, deprived rights. Taken land. Separated people and torched our humanity and children on earth.
f@#k you christanity, f@#k you islam. F@#k all religions. Let us live as children of earth. While religion exists we are all doom. How can we all be so blind??????
There is nothing scarier on earth then a man believing his killing is justified by his belief in a higher power. His madness then would know no bounds.

Aga

pre 8 godina

Let me get this straight. The guy goes to Srebrnica to lay the flower, what is the small symbol of reconciliation. Instead of dialog some barbarian threw things on him....

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Allahu Akbar," and "Die, Chetnik

I don't know what Vucic is doing there? These savages don't want reconciliation, they want another war.
Thank God we have Republika Srpska!

When Jasenovac is considered genocide then so will Srebrenica.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Idiocracy Balkan style.. Rep srpska surely shall succeed from mini Yugoslavia.. 600 years of ottoman rule, Bosnians never had it so good.. WWII Bosnian nazis terrorised their neighbours. Serbs decided they didn't want to return to Bosnian/Ottoman rule, it didn't work.. Nor did Yuoslavia for the Bosnians.. Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
--
Srebrenica is in Republika Srpska so he can go there any time he wants. He was attacked by Muslim extremists who can't accept everyone has the right to disagree with the western created "genocide". It didn't pass through the UN so it is not internationally recognised. Only the US and EU, who were on the side of Muslims, have done so. If those extremists were smart, they would have thrown rocks at Clinton who told Izetbegovic that 5000 must die in Srebrenica to justify intervention.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Amazing some of the comments here from some really ignorant and stupid individuals. What did Vucic have to gain from this visit? Absolutely nothing. He came to show respect and this is how he was treated. We have nothing to gain from reconciliation with either bosnjaks, croats or even less the albanians. We give a hand of friendship and are spit at. It just shows that nothing serbs do is good enough. Our neighbours will hate us not for what we do but for who we are. Fortunately for us we are stronger then all of them put together and there is nothing they can do to us unless we let them.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Vucic almost got ripped to pieces by mostly woman, and can one blame them! Vucic a prominent and key member of Serbia's most radical party new all about the atrocities & genocide being committed against the civilian population in Bosnia, where children woman, men, and elderly were systematically being ethnically cleansed, age and gender did not matter to the Serbian political elite and their fascist military machine, their ultimate goal was the creation of a ethnically pure greater Serbian superstate smack in the middle of Europe, all at the expense of innocent blood!

Serbia should start taking the necessary steps to heal the past wounds it so deeply created in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosova & Slovenia quickly, and not continue on the same policies of the past which as of today are only different by deception & slithery! We have radical Serbs still occupying 49% of Bosnian territory with a so called & self proclaimed RS republic which is only recognized by a still radical Serbia, we have radical Serb elements backed by radical Serbia proper continuing to limit the Republic of Kosova's movement in parts of northern Kosova where crime is rampant! The time has come for stability to be established in Southern Europe, the time has come for radical Serbia to finally be fully pacified, or another dark chapter of history could engulf Southern Europe yet again due to Serbian radicalism!

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Just watched the video on RT. Check -> http://rt.com/news/273133-serbian-pm-injured-srebrenica/

The 20th anniversary of the massacre turns into a circus thanks to the Muslims. Obviously extremists don't want peace and reconciliation, much like those that post here. Division and hate is their only purpose.

peggybaby

pre 8 godina

Savages, eh. Wasn't this the guy who was bombing civilians with the fourth largest army in Europe only to cry like a baby when tables were turned. I bet it took extra amount of booze for him to even show up there.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?"

Atila

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?

Arnaut

pre 8 godina

Bosnian reaction of throwing stones toward Vucic can be justified as Serbia still behaves all high and mighty with no regard to what's really happened in Bosnia. Serbian political elite, which consists of hard-line nationalists, is reluctant to accept the bitter truth that in Srebrenica, serbs committed genocide. no serbian official has ever condemned genocide nor has asked for apologize to the Bosnian people. What's really upsetting is that Serbs continue to keep large chunks of Bosnia's territory - the so-called Republika Srpska makes it difficult for obtaining any peace. The first step toward reconciling is to accept Serbian ungodly deeds on innocent civilians. yet serbs seems very far from behaving in a civilized manner: most of them perceive themselves as 'victim' of an well-thought-out plot of USA, Croatia, Bosnia and Albanians. Come to think of it, Vucic's visit should have been cancelled because the wounds of many Bosnians are still fresh. Accordingly, some pressure must be placed upon Belgrade to hold accountable those who slaughtered innocent Bosnians. The same goes for Kosova who suffered under Serbian yoke from 1912. More than 10.000 Albanians were killed, exterminated and massacred while a million other were expelled from their homes.

Disgusting!

pre 8 godina

Serbs try to extend the hand of peace, and in return they are pelted with stones! This is truly sick! How can Serbs live with these backward savages!
This savage attack proves once again that Bosnia is an abomination and cannot exist! Republika Srpska needs to declare independence ASAP!

eric

pre 8 godina

Vucic should see the video tape where he said "kill of the muslim bosniaks" and yet he goes to this genocidal ceremony that his people/friends committed. i'm no religious but this person is racist against muslims and that does not promote peace.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

roberto said "...They are our enemy."

What a hate-mongering buffoon.

You sit on you little lily white ass in the USA and encourage people of the Balkans to continue to fight and hate their neighbor thousands of miles from your sunny California.
You don't live their daily hand to mouth existence nor fear for your children's future.
You are no different than those you hate because you encourage others to do the same.
You are an enemy of peace in the Balkans.

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

roberto, you're like one of those Westboro Baptist Church members whose only goal in life is to invite themselves to other peoples' events and make such an ass of yourself you hope someone finally beats the shit out of you so you could turn around, play victim for being assaulted, and sue them.

The hand of reconciliation you keep claiming to support was offered. It was rejected and you say good for Bosnia? You sick little man. You sick, twisted, petty, pathetic, poseur of a man. You must suffer from levels of autism that science hasn't even been able to classify yet. I mock your hypocrisy for fun because you so ask for it with your narcissistic douchebaggery, but deep down, you really are a disgusting human being and a fraud to all those people who truly do work hard and diligently towards reconciliation in the Balkans.

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is no surprise - Vucic and his fellow chetniks did everything in their power to deny and minimize the genocide in Srebrenica that was waged in their name, by their soldiers and 'paramilitaries' - supervised and paid for by Belgrade. Not just a few bad actors but the state, and Vucic, Nikolic and Dacic were all a part of that Greater Serbia project. Mladic, the main executioner, is still on their payroll! They are our enemy.

I said many times that Vucic was not welcome, especially after the debacle at the UN with the Serbian instigated veto by Putin-Russia. If Vucic had a shred of integrity he would have stayed far away. Instead this offensive Chetnik leader chose to attend and was welcomed with an appropriate and fully understandable response. His mere presence at this ceremony was a despicable and aggressive act. And he was completely aware of it.

Back in Belgrade, a handful of good and progressive individuals - Serbs not Chetniks - chose to show their respect for the victims of Srebrenica through evocative exhibits and symbolic acts. Despite their repressive govt, despite the warped media there. They are the Serbs we need to honor and respect.

Josh

pre 8 godina

This made me chuckle (and made my day).

What more of a message does this send to the world about Serbia?

Your government and country no longer applies to Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Kosovo, or Slovenia.

Just... go away.
Back to Russia, preferably.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

When you say that others have bad leaders and Serbs have changed Look at vucic 20 years ago so he has changed his uniform and wears better suits he is same. For those who do not understand in first video he says Kill 1 Serbin we will kill 100' of Bosnian Muslims .... person who cheered hate. Sad part here for people like Ari he is not nationalist enough.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnzu3Zxw4ak]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wukeupQk4eQ]

Mendo

pre 8 godina

Even though terrible crimes/genocide was done in Srebrenica by the Serbs this is not how people should behave towards a neighbouring PM in front of the world. Don't know I'm confused and I know not all Serbs are brainwashed and at least Mr Vucic is trying to do better for the region even though he was part of the wars in ex-Yugo.

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

Based on the logic presented by these Islamic jihadist posting yet again on a Serbian property,.Serbian should stone the Austrian, German, and or Hungarian prime ministers when they travel to Belgrade for genocide committed during WW1 & WW2,. let's not also foget our Ustache Nazi loving Croats too? Funny further, how the international community treats these Muslim terrorists with kid gloves, never allowing to offend, yet the same ideology West bombs in Syria and Iraq lives in Bosnia. in 90s and today.

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

one final thing roberto, because you obviously went right to the comment section:

The hand of reconciliation was offered and accepted by Hatidzde Mehmedovic and other Members of the Mothers of Srebrenica to Vucic. It was deeply moving to see these women who lost their sons, husbands, and brothers, actually engage in the type of reconciliation with the head of the former opposing country as they did. All this would have been favorably reported and the ceremonies would have been completed with the dignity the day deserves had it not been for the rioters who made it into a spectacle, whose actions were condemned by international officials but whom you support for your own childish reasons.

At the end, you really don't care about peace because if that were to actually happen, you'd have nothing to talk about. Keep convincing yourself you're not the one walking around with his head up his ass.

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)
I understand your point of view, after all if someone kills most of your family members and denies it ever happened, I know you yourself would bring them flowers and offer them tea and crumpets at your table right. That's what distinguishes YOU from these animals.

This was a staged event so once again Serbs can play the victim card,

pavle

pre 8 godina

This shows the difference between Islam and Christianity. How are you vendictive judgemental muslims so sure that he is not sorry. We all know muslims certainly are not sorry for what that gangster Oric did.

rustedshoehorn

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

Reader

pre 8 godina

Tadic also went to Srebrenica and was not received like this. So it must be Vucic they have a grudge with. Why one wonders? Is it because of his nazi-like past "kill 100 muslims for evey serb"? Or maybe because of the whole UNSC resolution story?

factmam

pre 8 godina

Roberto:

Diplomatic incident

Assasination attempt with intent to inflict bodily harm by propelling large blunt force objects (multiple times) with great force at the face and head of a foreign minister who came to reconcile.

You just dug yourself a sh%t hole in which you're going to sit a long time.

Congrats!

Joni

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)

Animals - are they who shoot with stones....?? I think that they are to hurt!!
The so-called " SERBS" will shoot with a heavy artillery... they are a civilized people. So they do not fall as down nooo, to besmirch their hands with stones....NOOOO!!!
They will use "grenades".
I'm sure!

Uli

pre 8 godina

Peggy, I don't know why you have so hate inside you , relax, pray and forgive. You express to much hate on this forum. I have noticed that for years. As an Albanian who live abroad for many years , as a Christian I support Vucic in this matter. He went there to say sorry to what happen in the past. In the main time, if you think about the people who have lost loved ones it is hard for them to forgive him. Its nature of human been. Put your self on Bosniak shoes before you make any comments. Think first. Vucic is a good prime minister and he is trying to move from the past but it will take generations . I am glad at least that Vucic has changed .. Once upon a time it used to be some one named Drashkovic.. guy was all about war and hate but he came to senses one day. I think majority of Serbs are coming to senses.

Srbin

pre 8 godina

so, now we can see who are savages, these people will never leave 90's.Fellow Serbian brothers and bots, please comment here also, i notice that only serbian enemies comment here so far.

rote

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ? Of course not and we all know why. Because all western media are concentrated on Srebrenica where Serbs were appointed as bad guys while Benderasts in Kiev are still freedom fighters. What is it but double standards ? Serbs let the Muslims leave the town with arms while in Volin massacre of 1943 people in 100 Polish villages and towns had not a single chance. Well if the Bosniaks or anybody else is going to replay the war you are welcome. This time Russia will pay out the debt for 1999 and no jihadists will save Bosniaks or Albanians. All will in asphalt and you will have thousands of volunteers instead of dozens. So best if we all calm down now and ask ourselves how come that the Yakees play with us as if we are Africans on palms trees ?

Atila

pre 8 godina

Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 11 July 2015 15:05)

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?

Atila

pre 8 godina

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 17:10)

Mike I am with you that Bosnia Belongs to those there and as Bulgarian from Ohrid does not have anything to do with ppl in Bosnia ( this is between Serbs, Bosnians and Croats) to decide.

I am asking him as he is asking to split a country has nothing to do with.

I have huge problem with split of Yugoslavia it saddens me that split in 1990's to be together in in EU begging in 2020 how smart is that. Yugoslavia would have been a huge success if Nationalist in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia..... did not act today same nationalist went there he says he is reformed but I done beleive him.

Yugoslavian republics need fresh blood in poletical life as Vucic, isetbegovic, Thaci .... are misguided nationalist that are doing everything to win points to get in EU and keep ruling.

So Mike C the PHD what is wrong in what I said? you should not have anything to say either as you are American Serb living in Sweden why should u decide on Bosnia?

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.
(ned taylor, 11 July 2015 15:08)

Ned,
I agree with you for the most part, however, your assumption that Vucic's motives were sincere is something I do not buy. I've been dealing with Serbs for some time now. I believe this was orchestrated by Serbia to turn out the way it did, so as to discredit the bosniaks. This is the standard M.O. used by Serbia to make them appear to be the victims. I am sure that after this incident is investigated it will turn out that Serbs set this up. Many examples come to mind, e.g. the Panda Cafe massacre of 1998, the Martinovic bottle "rape" case of 1985-1987 among the most famous. All these cases were later determined to have been deviously planned and committed by the Serbian gov't. As a matter of fact, the Serb gov't eventually admitted to having been responsible. These and other cases are easily verifiable. This was planned well in advance by the Serb authorities.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@peggy

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Good that Vucic went.

Good that we all realise the deep hurts that people suffer.

Understand the stone throwers even though they were not right to do it.

Do go again Vucic if you really mean it.

The interior ministers should resign for his spurious 'assassination' comments. He does not understand.

uli

pre 8 godina

I used to come to this website a few years ago when Kosovo Declared Independence and periodically I kept an eye on the website when major news event related to Albania and Kosovo would show up. I found it entertaining to see other people reactions from both sides and all sides as I see some claimed foreigners who apparently are obsessed with Serbia. Please stop and don’t foul yourself. I am American Citizen as well as Albanian but I don’t come here and act or say “The American guy from Chicago”, what I have learned is simple. In 15 years overseas I have changed as a human been and I see things differently, it doesn’t matter anymore to me if the other person is Albanian, Serbian or any kind of ethnicity. What I want to see in this website and I was hoping to see is simple justice and open mindless from everyone so we can learn from each other and put justice first before nationality. We live in the 21 century and it is sad to see so much hate towards other people as in the 17 century. No matter what nationality we are, we are humans for god sake. We all should speak up for injustice and should stand up for the truth. As Balkan has open borders most of you people in here have closed your mind and they need to open their minds. I was happy to see Prime Minister Rama meeting Vucic, the first step towards reconciliation is talking to each other.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?"

Bilbao

You albanians presume that if the Hague come up with a verdict one must be guilty. Same as Srebrenica. The ICJ decides its genocide therefore it must be. I believe Thaci, Oric, Haradinaj, Milosevic etc did some horrible things. Some were sentenced some were not perhaps due to lack of evidence perhaps for political reasons. However, we can't just acuse every person on the other side for being a warcriminal, including myseldning. Vucic was a radical once but so what? He hasn't killed anyone as far as I know. And isn't it better that he turned away from this nationalism and instead work for better relations amongst Balkan nations? Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Don't be surprised if Vucic gets summoned to the Hague. A Bosnian Muslim rock was damaged yesterday by Vucic's head and therefore he committed genocide. If you disagree, you're a genocide denier.

Zmajl

pre 8 godina

Vuciic I think he shouldnt be that country very shame on him how come went there and got killed 8.000 people criminals should be each prisom who shot om them.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

The real victims welcome Vucic,but where is the Bosnian Security force to protect Vucic and his delegates as well , the Slovenian Delegates.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

A good impartial article here about Srebrenica by Neil Clark. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/273142-srebrenica-massacre-anniversary-balkans/

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Bilbao

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Sasa P: 1. Vucic rather foolishly stated he wasn't concerned about security. 2. Srebrenica is in the RS and therefore it was the job of fellow Serbs to protect Mr Vucic and to be aware of potential threats long before they developed; they failed on both counts. That is not to in any way justify what transpired but you asked about protection for Vucic so I've provided you with an answer.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

Ok Mike so by your train of thought here then Thaqi is ok as well as he was not sent to hague?

Vucic was ultranationalist Seselj party and carried beer for Seselj he has just changed his gear better suits. Did he say we will kill 100 Bosnian Muslims for each Serb? Now he did not pick up gun but his intentions were clear

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqv9CJbd3U]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBN-ohybIQ]

And few months ago was there begging in US.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wV0iuSSAE] look for your self

[https://www.google.com/search?q=vucic+nosi+pivo&espv=2&biw=1309&bih=707&tbm=isch&imgil=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%253Bq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fzokstersomething.com%25252F2014%25252F10%25252F27%25252Fvucic-odrzao-predavanje-u-londonu-nosio-sam-gajbice-piva-seselju-i-nikolicu%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%252Cq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%252C_&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D&ved=0CCwQyjc&ei=4XChVaSzCIO7ogSOjaCYCg#imgrc=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%3A&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D]

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 23:06)

I did not say more than show what he said promoted killing.

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?

icj1

pre 8 godina

What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not?
(UK, 12 July 2015 14:40)

The reason is that Germany has not questioned that the slaughter of millions of human beings on the name of the German people during WW2 constituted war crimes and crimes against humanity.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive
(Someone, 12 July 2015 13:00)

Sure, but even if some people (who happened to be of bosniak ethnicity and muslim religion - not all Bosniak muslims) perpetrated those crimes, how does that justify the genocide committed in Srebrenica?!!!

Clacton Town

pre 8 godina

11 million Muslims have been violently killed since 1948. 90% of them at the hands of other Muslims but lets blame the serbs for that too

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.
(MikeC, 12 July 2015 08:36)

I agree with you he went there it was hard for him issue in balkans is that its not trusted 20years from asking to kill 100 Bosnians for each Serb.

However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s it is strange to me that Serbia has no one better than (dacic, Nikolic and Vucic) or Kosovo does not have someone better than Thaqi....

All that fighting for what, in all region will be in EU and live and work together. People in Balkans are fed hate by these same leaders. My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart.

We shall see what future brings....

UK

pre 8 godina

Before I comment, I would like to point out that I have no specific allegiance with any particular side in this situation. I simply want to say it as I see it.
First look at how the mothers of the bereaved met with Vucic. That shows incredible character and was the one truly sincere act of reconciliation on show during this whole episode. If they can act in such a way then I would suggest that anyone else has no excuse for not being able to show a similar level of humanity. Vucic, apparently, went there to show respect and to try to further the cause of reconciliation. Many terrible things have happened in the past but at some point everyone must look to the future and try to make it better than the past. Accusations and stone throwing are not the way forward. Respect and dialogue are the way forward. Look at pretty much any country's history, my own included, and you will find acts of violence against others. Can you ever imagine the UK PM being treated this way on a visit to India or to Dresden? What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not? Reconciliation and an acceptance that we all need to look to the future and find ways of living peacefully together. I would suggest that when someone extends the hand of reconciliation it should be met with the same courage and grace as was the case with the mothers in this instance. Truly an example to us all and deeply humbling.

Flawed Logic

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)

Germany has. Idiot.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Count of Kosova: I made no mention of Vucic's motive whatsoever and have no idea what it was, neither do I care. My comment was intended to draw the distinction between the behaviour of the mob and that of the bereaved mothers.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?
(Atila, 11 July 2015 16:30)

Absolutely. It doesn't work, the Albanians hate us.. Plus different language and religion.. Let's face it mono ethnic countries are far more stable than the alternative.. Growing up We've never been taught that Albanians are evil, where the Albanians are taught that the Slavs took over their home land from birth and they are stuck in that mentally, despite the Albanians committing absolute appalling atrocities under ottoman and nazi rule, they keep harping on about victimisation.. Yes absolutely divorce now..

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbs are worse than animals by assassinating unarmed Bosnian children with their little hands tied behind their backs on empty stomachs shot in the back of their heads by Serbian professional military COWARDS.

Their only "crime" was being a Bosnian Moslem......

Serbs have no shame.

And to this day continue to live in denial.

And you want to reconcile?

How ?

Demi

pre 8 godina

The wolf dressed in cheap clothing coulden't fool the cheaps and ran like an little dog.

But the bosniak people are no better than the serbs. They are the same people and only their faith are different. Some of the 8000 killed were bosniak soldiers running away from responsobility. They too killed serbs.

But no matter what no human being should be killed with their hands tied. Thats a weak act and nothing different from what isis is doing today.

Serbs should reflect over them self when their sons and fathers killed small children and elderly in the wars in f. Yugo.

icj1

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ?
(rote, 11 July 2015 21:59)

To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale.

So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Clacton Town: On 27th March 2015 the United Nations Human Rights Council adopted a resolution on genocide introduced by the Armenian Delegation. Numerous debates have been held in the main chamber about the events of 1915 and a number of Parliaments around the world have passed motions about the genocide, notably in France recently. The fact that the massacre of 1995 was so well documented and the events leading up to it captured on camera makes it difficult to dispute what happened. Such technology was not available in 1915 and makes it easier for those who wish to do so to deny that there was a genocide.

uli

pre 8 godina

Mason Stevens. There is god and there is prove of it. Read 10 Commandments, Christianity and Islam both recognize 10 commandments but there are brained wash idiots and ignorant that don't. One out of 10 biggest offenses you can have to god is to kill someone, apparently you are ignorant and don't know much about religion. Who kill other people goes to hell morally, legally, spiritually and according to both Christian and Islam. Churches in USA practice only good things and nothing bad comes out of religion, its all about what you believe and deviating from religion that put you in a deep hole. Religion is peace not killing. ISIS is a terrorist organization.

a New day

pre 8 godina

Serbs are busy to condemn Bosnia for not protecting Vucic, who had quite a large entourage of security staff. But what was he attacked with?
Stones and water bottles! So Bosnia should go through and remove all stones from cemetaries???
This was not a mass operation where people were armed, no shots were fired, no bombs were detonated, no weapons were used, so it seems like they were able to keep it reasonably safe. This WAS a memorial for victims of Serb forces so there was no way to keep every single person who still harbors resentment against Serbs and Serb leaders, esp those who actually were participating in the very same government that were responsible for this massacre. And if he did make the comments attributed to him. In view of most recent events, he should have never gone. It is good he did, but like he said
""I have never been interested in security assessments," he told reporters,"
But again who were the winners here?
A Serb delegation goes to a memorial for victims OF Serbs, and walk away as the "VICTIMS".

Someone

pre 8 godina

I see a lot of people defending the actions happened on that event,thats sick.
under the srenrenica "massacre" muslims tried to flee from bosnia to serbia,the muslims killed their own people while the serbians in serbia offered help to the muslims who fled from the war territories of bosnia,there are a lot of stories from muslim people who fled to Serbia because of the terrors that were made by their own people on themsleves.
The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive,oh , and not even muslims could be saved from such savagery from the bosniak muslim in the command of naser oric, it often resulted in them fleeing to serbia because they had more protection on the side of their enemy than on their own side

Peggy

pre 8 godina

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.
(Bam Bam, 12 July 2015 00:47)
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Not that you had any credibility before, but now you have really soiled yourself.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s"

"My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart. "

Bilbao

Getting rid of people from the 90s isn't nessesarily the problem. Most people writing comment here were probably to small to remember the war and wouldn't mind if there was another one. They don't know the horrors it. I think therefore leaders who know what war Is are more valuable. At the same time they can be assosiate with issues that bothers the other side and can therefore also hinder better relations just like you said. I guess we have to wait for them to get old and die before the balkans can start fresh.

rote

pre 8 godina

“To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale. So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.”

(icj1, 12 July 2015 18:38)

I agree about Hitler. Everything else is hypocrisy. As you must know Stalin’s repressions started in 1936 when his wife committed suicide. And we have exact figures of the executed between 1936 and 1953. They are some 890 000 including the criminals, the traitors during the war ect. Not so much really. Concerning Srebrenica tragedy it was a war crime to be prosecuted together with the multiple less advertised crimes against the Serbs.

The Polish tragedy that you’ve learned from me is a bigger tragedy not only because they killed 80 000 – 100 000 but because they killed also all the children, women and the old. They killed not only Poles but all non-Ukrainians including the Jews, Russians, Armenians, Greek ect. Poles simply were the majority in Wolyn Region of Ukraine. This was a real genocide and it lasted till we destroyed the bastards in Berlin and their vassals in Galitsis.

Unfortunately military crimes like in Srebrenica happened too often in the history including those arranged by your Albanian bastards. If you have other questions you are welcome.

rote

pre 8 godina

Stones are used by those with a Stone Age mentality.
(Colonials, 12 July 2015 14:53)

No my friend in Islam stones as well as boots are very symbolic. Because stones are used to beat the Evil during their Hajj to Mecca. So it was a pre-planned action. In Langley they know what a stone means for the Muslims.

UK

A very good comment ! I would only add that Serbia must not beg pardon every year. Once they confessed and it’s enough. At least before the other sides do the same.


Someone

“but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years … “

Nobody is interested in it because Serbs were already appointed as bad guys. As well as the Russian in Ukraine , Assad in Syria ect. Have you heard that today 17 battalion of the Pravi Sector abandoned the Donbass Front and started to block the roads in Ukraine ? I believe you haven’t. Because those are good guys who fight the Russian virtual invaders. Same in Srebrenica , same with the Storm operation and Kosovo robbery.

andif

pre 8 godina

Why doesn't Serbia impose sanctions. Trade with companies in Sprska who have no connection to rest of that country. I suppose also that Serbian tourists should only visit Sprska.

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

(rustedshoehorn, 11 July 2015 17:55)

It's not often I take the time to respond to narrow minded observations and I'd personally much prefer not to.

Anyway I'll allow you the luxury of a response. First with regard to your analogy of Alexander Vucic as a psychopath I find deeply distasteful. Alexander is in essence I believe a good human being and has taken upon himself an exceptionally difficult job and that is to ensure a better quality of life for the average Serbian citizen. A task he has performed well given the circumstances. He regrets some of the things that were said in the past and of some of the associations he may have built.

One horrible thing that can be drawn from this unfortunate incident is he now knows what it feels like to be hunted down although not on a scale of what happened 20 years ago thank God. I'm sure he'll reflect on those feelings and perhaps this will give him the empathy he needs in order to reconcile with those who have clearly suffered. Some from the same experience.

Personally I would have preferred that some of those ministers in his cabinet took those stones for they quite clearly deserve them.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
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He was invited. Do you believe that it's ok to invite someone then attack him?

Arnaut

pre 8 godina

Bosnian reaction of throwing stones toward Vucic can be justified as Serbia still behaves all high and mighty with no regard to what's really happened in Bosnia. Serbian political elite, which consists of hard-line nationalists, is reluctant to accept the bitter truth that in Srebrenica, serbs committed genocide. no serbian official has ever condemned genocide nor has asked for apologize to the Bosnian people. What's really upsetting is that Serbs continue to keep large chunks of Bosnia's territory - the so-called Republika Srpska makes it difficult for obtaining any peace. The first step toward reconciling is to accept Serbian ungodly deeds on innocent civilians. yet serbs seems very far from behaving in a civilized manner: most of them perceive themselves as 'victim' of an well-thought-out plot of USA, Croatia, Bosnia and Albanians. Come to think of it, Vucic's visit should have been cancelled because the wounds of many Bosnians are still fresh. Accordingly, some pressure must be placed upon Belgrade to hold accountable those who slaughtered innocent Bosnians. The same goes for Kosova who suffered under Serbian yoke from 1912. More than 10.000 Albanians were killed, exterminated and massacred while a million other were expelled from their homes.

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is no surprise - Vucic and his fellow chetniks did everything in their power to deny and minimize the genocide in Srebrenica that was waged in their name, by their soldiers and 'paramilitaries' - supervised and paid for by Belgrade. Not just a few bad actors but the state, and Vucic, Nikolic and Dacic were all a part of that Greater Serbia project. Mladic, the main executioner, is still on their payroll! They are our enemy.

I said many times that Vucic was not welcome, especially after the debacle at the UN with the Serbian instigated veto by Putin-Russia. If Vucic had a shred of integrity he would have stayed far away. Instead this offensive Chetnik leader chose to attend and was welcomed with an appropriate and fully understandable response. His mere presence at this ceremony was a despicable and aggressive act. And he was completely aware of it.

Back in Belgrade, a handful of good and progressive individuals - Serbs not Chetniks - chose to show their respect for the victims of Srebrenica through evocative exhibits and symbolic acts. Despite their repressive govt, despite the warped media there. They are the Serbs we need to honor and respect.

peggybaby

pre 8 godina

Savages, eh. Wasn't this the guy who was bombing civilians with the fourth largest army in Europe only to cry like a baby when tables were turned. I bet it took extra amount of booze for him to even show up there.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Vucic almost got ripped to pieces by mostly woman, and can one blame them! Vucic a prominent and key member of Serbia's most radical party new all about the atrocities & genocide being committed against the civilian population in Bosnia, where children woman, men, and elderly were systematically being ethnically cleansed, age and gender did not matter to the Serbian political elite and their fascist military machine, their ultimate goal was the creation of a ethnically pure greater Serbian superstate smack in the middle of Europe, all at the expense of innocent blood!

Serbia should start taking the necessary steps to heal the past wounds it so deeply created in Bosnia, Croatia, Kosova & Slovenia quickly, and not continue on the same policies of the past which as of today are only different by deception & slithery! We have radical Serbs still occupying 49% of Bosnian territory with a so called & self proclaimed RS republic which is only recognized by a still radical Serbia, we have radical Serb elements backed by radical Serbia proper continuing to limit the Republic of Kosova's movement in parts of northern Kosova where crime is rampant! The time has come for stability to be established in Southern Europe, the time has come for radical Serbia to finally be fully pacified, or another dark chapter of history could engulf Southern Europe yet again due to Serbian radicalism!

rote

pre 8 godina

The Brits killed estimated 30 000 000 in their colonies and nobody talks about it. The USA also killed millions after WW2 ect. I follow this real tragedy of Srebrenica and find it very close to what we have about the so called Katyn tragedy. They talk only about only one side of the medal like we can see it around Srebrenica. I mean 1939 when 250 000 of the Polish troops retreated to the USSR where they were placed in 7 camps. Poles were and are utmost Russophobes and in 1920 had invaded Russia and tortured to death some 100 000 Soviet prisoners of war. But when in 1941 Hitler Polish prisoners became a problem and about 8% of them ( only officers and policemen) were executed. In 1943 Goebbels and in 1953 the USA revived the tragedy in their agitation. So today after 76 years the West is still blaming Russia. Meanwhile only 1 of the 7 camps was on the “Russian” soil and no executions were held there. Because Russians were pre-appointed as bad guys. No matter that 80% of time USSR was ruled by people from Georgia and Ukraine. Nothing can make them change their attitude. Seems that same is the fate of the Serbs. Nobody cares that Serbia was not directly involved to the war and that Muslim atrocities had provoked Srebrenica tragedy. Like the Russians Serbs a demonized and that’s it. So we have to be patient and firm. Vucic made a brave though rather a stupid trip so he regained my confidence.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Allahu Akbar," and "Die, Chetnik

I don't know what Vucic is doing there? These savages don't want reconciliation, they want another war.
Thank God we have Republika Srpska!

When Jasenovac is considered genocide then so will Srebrenica.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

When you say that others have bad leaders and Serbs have changed Look at vucic 20 years ago so he has changed his uniform and wears better suits he is same. For those who do not understand in first video he says Kill 1 Serbin we will kill 100' of Bosnian Muslims .... person who cheered hate. Sad part here for people like Ari he is not nationalist enough.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnzu3Zxw4ak]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wukeupQk4eQ]

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)
I understand your point of view, after all if someone kills most of your family members and denies it ever happened, I know you yourself would bring them flowers and offer them tea and crumpets at your table right. That's what distinguishes YOU from these animals.

This was a staged event so once again Serbs can play the victim card,

Zoran

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
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Srebrenica is in Republika Srpska so he can go there any time he wants. He was attacked by Muslim extremists who can't accept everyone has the right to disagree with the western created "genocide". It didn't pass through the UN so it is not internationally recognised. Only the US and EU, who were on the side of Muslims, have done so. If those extremists were smart, they would have thrown rocks at Clinton who told Izetbegovic that 5000 must die in Srebrenica to justify intervention.

rustedshoehorn

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.
(ned taylor, 11 July 2015 15:08)

Ned,
I agree with you for the most part, however, your assumption that Vucic's motives were sincere is something I do not buy. I've been dealing with Serbs for some time now. I believe this was orchestrated by Serbia to turn out the way it did, so as to discredit the bosniaks. This is the standard M.O. used by Serbia to make them appear to be the victims. I am sure that after this incident is investigated it will turn out that Serbs set this up. Many examples come to mind, e.g. the Panda Cafe massacre of 1998, the Martinovic bottle "rape" case of 1985-1987 among the most famous. All these cases were later determined to have been deviously planned and committed by the Serbian gov't. As a matter of fact, the Serb gov't eventually admitted to having been responsible. These and other cases are easily verifiable. This was planned well in advance by the Serb authorities.

Josh

pre 8 godina

This made me chuckle (and made my day).

What more of a message does this send to the world about Serbia?

Your government and country no longer applies to Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Kosovo, or Slovenia.

Just... go away.
Back to Russia, preferably.

eric

pre 8 godina

Vucic should see the video tape where he said "kill of the muslim bosniaks" and yet he goes to this genocidal ceremony that his people/friends committed. i'm no religious but this person is racist against muslims and that does not promote peace.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

There is nothing wrong in stoning the devil !
(Bam Bam, 11 July 2015 14:49)
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Then to Mecca and do it. Plenty of people do.
Vucic wasn't going to satisfy you savages no matter what he did. If he didn't go you would be shouting from the rooftops how he disrespects you and won't honour your dead. He went and he still didn't do the right thing. What exactly do you want?

Zmajl

pre 8 godina

Vuciic I think he shouldnt be that country very shame on him how come went there and got killed 8.000 people criminals should be each prisom who shot om them.

Aga

pre 8 godina

Let me get this straight. The guy goes to Srebrnica to lay the flower, what is the small symbol of reconciliation. Instead of dialog some barbarian threw things on him....

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Just watched the video on RT. Check -> http://rt.com/news/273133-serbian-pm-injured-srebrenica/

The 20th anniversary of the massacre turns into a circus thanks to the Muslims. Obviously extremists don't want peace and reconciliation, much like those that post here. Division and hate is their only purpose.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Amazing some of the comments here from some really ignorant and stupid individuals. What did Vucic have to gain from this visit? Absolutely nothing. He came to show respect and this is how he was treated. We have nothing to gain from reconciliation with either bosnjaks, croats or even less the albanians. We give a hand of friendship and are spit at. It just shows that nothing serbs do is good enough. Our neighbours will hate us not for what we do but for who we are. Fortunately for us we are stronger then all of them put together and there is nothing they can do to us unless we let them.

Disgusting!

pre 8 godina

Serbs try to extend the hand of peace, and in return they are pelted with stones! This is truly sick! How can Serbs live with these backward savages!
This savage attack proves once again that Bosnia is an abomination and cannot exist! Republika Srpska needs to declare independence ASAP!

Srbin

pre 8 godina

so, now we can see who are savages, these people will never leave 90's.Fellow Serbian brothers and bots, please comment here also, i notice that only serbian enemies comment here so far.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Don't be surprised if Vucic gets summoned to the Hague. A Bosnian Muslim rock was damaged yesterday by Vucic's head and therefore he committed genocide. If you disagree, you're a genocide denier.

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Dear Alexander Vucic,

It is not for me to speak on behalf of Bosnia's Moslem population for I have not suffered like those who were present today in Srebrenica. Thank you first of all for coming, that in itself deserves recognition. And God willing some day in the future you can return and fulfill this exercise once again and leave peacefully, and should such a scenario present itself. I'll gladly take those rocks and stones for you.

pavle

pre 8 godina

This shows the difference between Islam and Christianity. How are you vendictive judgemental muslims so sure that he is not sorry. We all know muslims certainly are not sorry for what that gangster Oric did.

rote

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ? Of course not and we all know why. Because all western media are concentrated on Srebrenica where Serbs were appointed as bad guys while Benderasts in Kiev are still freedom fighters. What is it but double standards ? Serbs let the Muslims leave the town with arms while in Volin massacre of 1943 people in 100 Polish villages and towns had not a single chance. Well if the Bosniaks or anybody else is going to replay the war you are welcome. This time Russia will pay out the debt for 1999 and no jihadists will save Bosniaks or Albanians. All will in asphalt and you will have thousands of volunteers instead of dozens. So best if we all calm down now and ask ourselves how come that the Yakees play with us as if we are Africans on palms trees ?

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Idiocracy Balkan style.. Rep srpska surely shall succeed from mini Yugoslavia.. 600 years of ottoman rule, Bosnians never had it so good.. WWII Bosnian nazis terrorised their neighbours. Serbs decided they didn't want to return to Bosnian/Ottoman rule, it didn't work.. Nor did Yuoslavia for the Bosnians.. Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?"

Atila

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?

factmam

pre 8 godina

Roberto:

Diplomatic incident

Assasination attempt with intent to inflict bodily harm by propelling large blunt force objects (multiple times) with great force at the face and head of a foreign minister who came to reconcile.

You just dug yourself a sh%t hole in which you're going to sit a long time.

Congrats!

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

Based on the logic presented by these Islamic jihadist posting yet again on a Serbian property,.Serbian should stone the Austrian, German, and or Hungarian prime ministers when they travel to Belgrade for genocide committed during WW1 & WW2,. let's not also foget our Ustache Nazi loving Croats too? Funny further, how the international community treats these Muslim terrorists with kid gloves, never allowing to offend, yet the same ideology West bombs in Syria and Iraq lives in Bosnia. in 90s and today.

Bam Bam

pre 8 godina

@peggy

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

The real victims welcome Vucic,but where is the Bosnian Security force to protect Vucic and his delegates as well , the Slovenian Delegates.

Mendo

pre 8 godina

Even though terrible crimes/genocide was done in Srebrenica by the Serbs this is not how people should behave towards a neighbouring PM in front of the world. Don't know I'm confused and I know not all Serbs are brainwashed and at least Mr Vucic is trying to do better for the region even though he was part of the wars in ex-Yugo.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

roberto said "...They are our enemy."

What a hate-mongering buffoon.

You sit on you little lily white ass in the USA and encourage people of the Balkans to continue to fight and hate their neighbor thousands of miles from your sunny California.
You don't live their daily hand to mouth existence nor fear for your children's future.
You are no different than those you hate because you encourage others to do the same.
You are an enemy of peace in the Balkans.

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

roberto, you're like one of those Westboro Baptist Church members whose only goal in life is to invite themselves to other peoples' events and make such an ass of yourself you hope someone finally beats the shit out of you so you could turn around, play victim for being assaulted, and sue them.

The hand of reconciliation you keep claiming to support was offered. It was rejected and you say good for Bosnia? You sick little man. You sick, twisted, petty, pathetic, poseur of a man. You must suffer from levels of autism that science hasn't even been able to classify yet. I mock your hypocrisy for fun because you so ask for it with your narcissistic douchebaggery, but deep down, you really are a disgusting human being and a fraud to all those people who truly do work hard and diligently towards reconciliation in the Balkans.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 8 godina

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?
(Atila, 11 July 2015 16:30)

Absolutely. It doesn't work, the Albanians hate us.. Plus different language and religion.. Let's face it mono ethnic countries are far more stable than the alternative.. Growing up We've never been taught that Albanians are evil, where the Albanians are taught that the Slavs took over their home land from birth and they are stuck in that mentally, despite the Albanians committing absolute appalling atrocities under ottoman and nazi rule, they keep harping on about victimisation.. Yes absolutely divorce now..

rote

pre 8 godina

“To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale. So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.”

(icj1, 12 July 2015 18:38)

I agree about Hitler. Everything else is hypocrisy. As you must know Stalin’s repressions started in 1936 when his wife committed suicide. And we have exact figures of the executed between 1936 and 1953. They are some 890 000 including the criminals, the traitors during the war ect. Not so much really. Concerning Srebrenica tragedy it was a war crime to be prosecuted together with the multiple less advertised crimes against the Serbs.

The Polish tragedy that you’ve learned from me is a bigger tragedy not only because they killed 80 000 – 100 000 but because they killed also all the children, women and the old. They killed not only Poles but all non-Ukrainians including the Jews, Russians, Armenians, Greek ect. Poles simply were the majority in Wolyn Region of Ukraine. This was a real genocide and it lasted till we destroyed the bastards in Berlin and their vassals in Galitsis.

Unfortunately military crimes like in Srebrenica happened too often in the history including those arranged by your Albanian bastards. If you have other questions you are welcome.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

All Vucic has to do, is mention that what occurred in Srebrenica 1995 was 'GENOCIDE'. Once that happens the reconciliation process can begin. It's a shame that to this day the Serbs continue to shift the blame on others. Even ISIS haven't committed such atrocities of that scale.
(Bam Bam, 12 July 2015 00:47)
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Not that you had any credibility before, but now you have really soiled yourself.

Atila

pre 8 godina

Split others country! Bosnia belonges to those who live there including the serbs. You didn't have any problem splitting Yugoslavia and later Serbia but when Bosnia is concerned its a no no. By the way, why should any serb care what happens to Macedonia?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 17:10)

Mike I am with you that Bosnia Belongs to those there and as Bulgarian from Ohrid does not have anything to do with ppl in Bosnia ( this is between Serbs, Bosnians and Croats) to decide.

I am asking him as he is asking to split a country has nothing to do with.

I have huge problem with split of Yugoslavia it saddens me that split in 1990's to be together in in EU begging in 2020 how smart is that. Yugoslavia would have been a huge success if Nationalist in Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia..... did not act today same nationalist went there he says he is reformed but I done beleive him.

Yugoslavian republics need fresh blood in poletical life as Vucic, isetbegovic, Thaci .... are misguided nationalist that are doing everything to win points to get in EU and keep ruling.

So Mike C the PHD what is wrong in what I said? you should not have anything to say either as you are American Serb living in Sweden why should u decide on Bosnia?

Uli

pre 8 godina

Peggy, I don't know why you have so hate inside you , relax, pray and forgive. You express to much hate on this forum. I have noticed that for years. As an Albanian who live abroad for many years , as a Christian I support Vucic in this matter. He went there to say sorry to what happen in the past. In the main time, if you think about the people who have lost loved ones it is hard for them to forgive him. Its nature of human been. Put your self on Bosniak shoes before you make any comments. Think first. Vucic is a good prime minister and he is trying to move from the past but it will take generations . I am glad at least that Vucic has changed .. Once upon a time it used to be some one named Drashkovic.. guy was all about war and hate but he came to senses one day. I think majority of Serbs are coming to senses.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Sasa P: 1. Vucic rather foolishly stated he wasn't concerned about security. 2. Srebrenica is in the RS and therefore it was the job of fellow Serbs to protect Mr Vucic and to be aware of potential threats long before they developed; they failed on both counts. That is not to in any way justify what transpired but you asked about protection for Vucic so I've provided you with an answer.

Mason Stevens

pre 8 godina

Someone needs to take a history book into this area. These people are all the same people. Go back far enough to 12 13 generations brothers were split from each other and muslimised. These people are all slavs/serbs. What else do they think they are, Immigrants from turkey. These are muslim serbs. Nothing else. They only know one language (serbian) they look exactly like serbs. This all comes back to the most evil power on earth. Religion. Nothing has taken more lives, killed innocents, deprived rights. Taken land. Separated people and torched our humanity and children on earth.
f@#k you christanity, f@#k you islam. F@#k all religions. Let us live as children of earth. While religion exists we are all doom. How can we all be so blind??????
There is nothing scarier on earth then a man believing his killing is justified by his belief in a higher power. His madness then would know no bounds.

Clacton Town

pre 8 godina

11 million Muslims have been violently killed since 1948. 90% of them at the hands of other Muslims but lets blame the serbs for that too

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Hooligans throw stones at Vucic while the bereaved mothers shake his hand and one even hugs him. Reconciliation begins with forgiveness, however hard and painful that may be. If those who suffered immediate loss can show such humility then so can the rest of us.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Bilbao

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.

Atila

pre 8 godina

Sooner the divorce the better.. Yes innocent people died, such is the consequences of artificial multi ethnic States hence divide Bosnia clearly in order to avoid future blood shed.
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 11 July 2015 15:05)

Should we divide Macedonia as well to avoid future blood shed? So nice of you to give and split others country. If you say yes lets split macedonia then maybe you have a point would like to here your view in Macedonia?

Reader

pre 8 godina

Tadic also went to Srebrenica and was not received like this. So it must be Vucic they have a grudge with. Why one wonders? Is it because of his nazi-like past "kill 100 muslims for evey serb"? Or maybe because of the whole UNSC resolution story?

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague? Haradinaj, Gotovina and Oric were never charged and they are innocent. Vucic was never charged but he is guilty. You are a bunch of hypocrites. I hope with all my heart we never ever reconsile with you peasants. You have nothing to offer and I thank God Yugoslavia is no more so we don't have to deal with you worms.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

Ok Mike so by your train of thought here then Thaqi is ok as well as he was not sent to hague?

Vucic was ultranationalist Seselj party and carried beer for Seselj he has just changed his gear better suits. Did he say we will kill 100 Bosnian Muslims for each Serb? Now he did not pick up gun but his intentions were clear

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqv9CJbd3U]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBN-ohybIQ]

And few months ago was there begging in US.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wV0iuSSAE] look for your self

[https://www.google.com/search?q=vucic+nosi+pivo&espv=2&biw=1309&bih=707&tbm=isch&imgil=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%253Bq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fzokstersomething.com%25252F2014%25252F10%25252F27%25252Fvucic-odrzao-predavanje-u-londonu-nosio-sam-gajbice-piva-seselju-i-nikolicu%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%253A%252Cq-eFK8gYu-FcNM%252C_&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D&ved=0CCwQyjc&ei=4XChVaSzCIO7ogSOjaCYCg#imgrc=GaCwWN4bvVXLtM%3A&usg=__Fn7sVcTd8VGI9boI3QA6GqaEMe4%3D]

frisco watch

pre 8 godina

one final thing roberto, because you obviously went right to the comment section:

The hand of reconciliation was offered and accepted by Hatidzde Mehmedovic and other Members of the Mothers of Srebrenica to Vucic. It was deeply moving to see these women who lost their sons, husbands, and brothers, actually engage in the type of reconciliation with the head of the former opposing country as they did. All this would have been favorably reported and the ceremonies would have been completed with the dignity the day deserves had it not been for the rioters who made it into a spectacle, whose actions were condemned by international officials but whom you support for your own childish reasons.

At the end, you really don't care about peace because if that were to actually happen, you'd have nothing to talk about. Keep convincing yourself you're not the one walking around with his head up his ass.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Vucic carried beer for Seselj? Are you serious? Since when is this a crime? By the way. Has Seselj been convicted? Thaci and Haradinaj were not convicted and are innocent. Seselj has not been convicted either so he should be innocent, no?
If we should convict all those who use nationalistic rhetoric we might as well put the entire balkans in prison.
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 23:06)

I did not say more than show what he said promoted killing.

if Vucic is a warcriminal why isn't he in the Hague?
(MikeC, 11 July 2015 19:18)

You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?

rote

pre 8 godina

Stones are used by those with a Stone Age mentality.
(Colonials, 12 July 2015 14:53)

No my friend in Islam stones as well as boots are very symbolic. Because stones are used to beat the Evil during their Hajj to Mecca. So it was a pre-planned action. In Langley they know what a stone means for the Muslims.

UK

A very good comment ! I would only add that Serbia must not beg pardon every year. Once they confessed and it’s enough. At least before the other sides do the same.


Someone

“but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years … “

Nobody is interested in it because Serbs were already appointed as bad guys. As well as the Russian in Ukraine , Assad in Syria ect. Have you heard that today 17 battalion of the Pravi Sector abandoned the Donbass Front and started to block the roads in Ukraine ? I believe you haven’t. Because those are good guys who fight the Russian virtual invaders. Same in Srebrenica , same with the Storm operation and Kosovo robbery.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Good that Vucic went.

Good that we all realise the deep hurts that people suffer.

Understand the stone throwers even though they were not right to do it.

Do go again Vucic if you really mean it.

The interior ministers should resign for his spurious 'assassination' comments. He does not understand.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

A good impartial article here about Srebrenica by Neil Clark. Check -> http://rt.com/op-edge/273142-srebrenica-massacre-anniversary-balkans/

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"You eluded that guilty go to hague ?

Mike you have been many times said thaqi is war criminal and organ harvesting etc so why change of heart?"

Bilbao

You albanians presume that if the Hague come up with a verdict one must be guilty. Same as Srebrenica. The ICJ decides its genocide therefore it must be. I believe Thaci, Oric, Haradinaj, Milosevic etc did some horrible things. Some were sentenced some were not perhaps due to lack of evidence perhaps for political reasons. However, we can't just acuse every person on the other side for being a warcriminal, including myseldning. Vucic was a radical once but so what? He hasn't killed anyone as far as I know. And isn't it better that he turned away from this nationalism and instead work for better relations amongst Balkan nations? Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.

icj1

pre 8 godina

On July 11 two terrible tragedies were marked. One in Srebrenica where 8 000 were massacred and one in Poland where 80 000 were killed in a sadistic way by UNA , UNSO, UPA gangs. Now tell me please has anybody heard of the second tragedy outside Poland today ?
(rote, 11 July 2015 21:59)

To be honest I had not heard about it perhaps because the slaughter of millions committed in those years by Hitler and Comrade Stalin was of a much bigger scale.

So, now, back to the topic since that has nothing to do with whether the acts of members of the VRS in Srebrenica were genocide or not.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

"However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s"

"My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart. "

Bilbao

Getting rid of people from the 90s isn't nessesarily the problem. Most people writing comment here were probably to small to remember the war and wouldn't mind if there was another one. They don't know the horrors it. I think therefore leaders who know what war Is are more valuable. At the same time they can be assosiate with issues that bothers the other side and can therefore also hinder better relations just like you said. I guess we have to wait for them to get old and die before the balkans can start fresh.

Someone

pre 8 godina

I see a lot of people defending the actions happened on that event,thats sick.
under the srenrenica "massacre" muslims tried to flee from bosnia to serbia,the muslims killed their own people while the serbians in serbia offered help to the muslims who fled from the war territories of bosnia,there are a lot of stories from muslim people who fled to Serbia because of the terrors that were made by their own people on themsleves.
The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive,oh , and not even muslims could be saved from such savagery from the bosniak muslim in the command of naser oric, it often resulted in them fleeing to serbia because they had more protection on the side of their enemy than on their own side

Flawed Logic

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)

Germany has. Idiot.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbs are worse than animals by assassinating unarmed Bosnian children with their little hands tied behind their backs on empty stomachs shot in the back of their heads by Serbian professional military COWARDS.

Their only "crime" was being a Bosnian Moslem......

Serbs have no shame.

And to this day continue to live in denial.

And you want to reconcile?

How ?

uli

pre 8 godina

I used to come to this website a few years ago when Kosovo Declared Independence and periodically I kept an eye on the website when major news event related to Albania and Kosovo would show up. I found it entertaining to see other people reactions from both sides and all sides as I see some claimed foreigners who apparently are obsessed with Serbia. Please stop and don’t foul yourself. I am American Citizen as well as Albanian but I don’t come here and act or say “The American guy from Chicago”, what I have learned is simple. In 15 years overseas I have changed as a human been and I see things differently, it doesn’t matter anymore to me if the other person is Albanian, Serbian or any kind of ethnicity. What I want to see in this website and I was hoping to see is simple justice and open mindless from everyone so we can learn from each other and put justice first before nationality. We live in the 21 century and it is sad to see so much hate towards other people as in the 17 century. No matter what nationality we are, we are humans for god sake. We all should speak up for injustice and should stand up for the truth. As Balkan has open borders most of you people in here have closed your mind and they need to open their minds. I was happy to see Prime Minister Rama meeting Vucic, the first step towards reconciliation is talking to each other.

andif

pre 8 godina

Why doesn't Serbia impose sanctions. Trade with companies in Sprska who have no connection to rest of that country. I suppose also that Serbian tourists should only visit Sprska.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Count of Kosova: I made no mention of Vucic's motive whatsoever and have no idea what it was, neither do I care. My comment was intended to draw the distinction between the behaviour of the mob and that of the bereaved mothers.

UK

pre 8 godina

Before I comment, I would like to point out that I have no specific allegiance with any particular side in this situation. I simply want to say it as I see it.
First look at how the mothers of the bereaved met with Vucic. That shows incredible character and was the one truly sincere act of reconciliation on show during this whole episode. If they can act in such a way then I would suggest that anyone else has no excuse for not being able to show a similar level of humanity. Vucic, apparently, went there to show respect and to try to further the cause of reconciliation. Many terrible things have happened in the past but at some point everyone must look to the future and try to make it better than the past. Accusations and stone throwing are not the way forward. Respect and dialogue are the way forward. Look at pretty much any country's history, my own included, and you will find acts of violence against others. Can you ever imagine the UK PM being treated this way on a visit to India or to Dresden? What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not? Reconciliation and an acceptance that we all need to look to the future and find ways of living peacefully together. I would suggest that when someone extends the hand of reconciliation it should be met with the same courage and grace as was the case with the mothers in this instance. Truly an example to us all and deeply humbling.

Demi

pre 8 godina

The wolf dressed in cheap clothing coulden't fool the cheaps and ran like an little dog.

But the bosniak people are no better than the serbs. They are the same people and only their faith are different. Some of the 8000 killed were bosniak soldiers running away from responsobility. They too killed serbs.

But no matter what no human being should be killed with their hands tied. Thats a weak act and nothing different from what isis is doing today.

Serbs should reflect over them self when their sons and fathers killed small children and elderly in the wars in f. Yugo.

Nazif Bracic

pre 8 godina

Bracic, you do know that he wouldn't hesitate for a second to butcher your family, if this was 1995. What is It that makes psychos like Vucic to return to the scene of the crime.

(rustedshoehorn, 11 July 2015 17:55)

It's not often I take the time to respond to narrow minded observations and I'd personally much prefer not to.

Anyway I'll allow you the luxury of a response. First with regard to your analogy of Alexander Vucic as a psychopath I find deeply distasteful. Alexander is in essence I believe a good human being and has taken upon himself an exceptionally difficult job and that is to ensure a better quality of life for the average Serbian citizen. A task he has performed well given the circumstances. He regrets some of the things that were said in the past and of some of the associations he may have built.

One horrible thing that can be drawn from this unfortunate incident is he now knows what it feels like to be hunted down although not on a scale of what happened 20 years ago thank God. I'm sure he'll reflect on those feelings and perhaps this will give him the empathy he needs in order to reconcile with those who have clearly suffered. Some from the same experience.

Personally I would have preferred that some of those ministers in his cabinet took those stones for they quite clearly deserve them.

a New day

pre 8 godina

Serbs are busy to condemn Bosnia for not protecting Vucic, who had quite a large entourage of security staff. But what was he attacked with?
Stones and water bottles! So Bosnia should go through and remove all stones from cemetaries???
This was not a mass operation where people were armed, no shots were fired, no bombs were detonated, no weapons were used, so it seems like they were able to keep it reasonably safe. This WAS a memorial for victims of Serb forces so there was no way to keep every single person who still harbors resentment against Serbs and Serb leaders, esp those who actually were participating in the very same government that were responsible for this massacre. And if he did make the comments attributed to him. In view of most recent events, he should have never gone. It is good he did, but like he said
""I have never been interested in security assessments," he told reporters,"
But again who were the winners here?
A Serb delegation goes to a memorial for victims OF Serbs, and walk away as the "VICTIMS".

icj1

pre 8 godina

What about the German Chancellor being treated in this way on a trip to Poland or Israel? The reason why not?
(UK, 12 July 2015 14:40)

The reason is that Germany has not questioned that the slaughter of millions of human beings on the name of the German people during WW2 constituted war crimes and crimes against humanity.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The srebrenica massacre happened in 1995, but do you know what happened before that? Bosniak muslims tortured and killed bosnian serbs for 3 years, they poled alive humans and grilled them all done while they were alive
(Someone, 12 July 2015 13:00)

Sure, but even if some people (who happened to be of bosniak ethnicity and muslim religion - not all Bosniak muslims) perpetrated those crimes, how does that justify the genocide committed in Srebrenica?!!!

Joni

pre 8 godina

More proof of the Animals that roam thru Europe shouting ISIS slogans, once an Animal always will be.
(vratnica, 11 July 2015 14:42)

Animals - are they who shoot with stones....?? I think that they are to hurt!!
The so-called " SERBS" will shoot with a heavy artillery... they are a civilized people. So they do not fall as down nooo, to besmirch their hands with stones....NOOOO!!!
They will use "grenades".
I'm sure!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

of course. The state who commit the genocide can not visit later.
Simple rules.
(donat, 11 July 2015 14:11)
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He was invited. Do you believe that it's ok to invite someone then attack him?

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Clacton Town: On 27th March 2015 the United Nations Human Rights Council adopted a resolution on genocide introduced by the Armenian Delegation. Numerous debates have been held in the main chamber about the events of 1915 and a number of Parliaments around the world have passed motions about the genocide, notably in France recently. The fact that the massacre of 1995 was so well documented and the events leading up to it captured on camera makes it difficult to dispute what happened. Such technology was not available in 1915 and makes it easier for those who wish to do so to deny that there was a genocide.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Im not a big fan of Vucic for other reasons but a take of my hat for what he tried to do yesterday.
(MikeC, 12 July 2015 08:36)

I agree with you he went there it was hard for him issue in balkans is that its not trusted 20years from asking to kill 100 Bosnians for each Serb.

However where I think Balkans will be better is if we get Rid of people from the 90s it is strange to me that Serbia has no one better than (dacic, Nikolic and Vucic) or Kosovo does not have someone better than Thaqi....

All that fighting for what, in all region will be in EU and live and work together. People in Balkans are fed hate by these same leaders. My point in all this I do not believe any of them have had a change of heart.

We shall see what future brings....

uli

pre 8 godina

Mason Stevens. There is god and there is prove of it. Read 10 Commandments, Christianity and Islam both recognize 10 commandments but there are brained wash idiots and ignorant that don't. One out of 10 biggest offenses you can have to god is to kill someone, apparently you are ignorant and don't know much about religion. Who kill other people goes to hell morally, legally, spiritually and according to both Christian and Islam. Churches in USA practice only good things and nothing bad comes out of religion, its all about what you believe and deviating from religion that put you in a deep hole. Religion is peace not killing. ISIS is a terrorist organization.