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U.S. House of Representatives adopts Srebrenica resolution

The House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress has unanimously adopted <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-resolution/310/text" class="text-link" target= "_blank">a resolution</a> on Srebrenica.

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michael

pre 8 godina

those dates represent the slaves brought over during those years.Although Native Americans have been held to have both inherent rights and rights guaranteed, either explicitly or implicitly, by treaties with the federal government, the government retains the ultimate power and authority to either abrogate or protect Native American rights. In other words treaties are made to be broken, again and again if necessary, nothing new. The American soldier is treated like crap when he is done with his service, especially if immediate care is needed. This issue has been addressed somewhat recently but not as it should be. enough said on this

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

(michael, 10 July 2015 15:11)
Maybe a little medication will go a long way before posting. I would wager if you presented your post to any psychiatrist they would immediately diagnose the writer as Schizophrenic.
Not that I want to hear more from you but curious as to what the dates and numbers mean. Also any American Indian today is not bound to live on a reservation as a matter of fact most have moved off. They are American citizens and can live and work anywhere in the country, the same as Serbian imigrants who have achieved citizenship. Even off the reservation they still retain all their rights within the tribal organization and still receive their annual payments from trusts set up by the federal govt for each of the recognized tribes. As well as special scholarships only available for Native Americans to study at any of the US colleges.
I do think that the US needs to do more for its veterans, but even at the problems they have, do you think it comes close to comparison to veterans say in Serbia???

michael

pre 8 godina

For learn a lot,
Date

Numbers

1620–1700 21,000
1701–1760 189,000
1761–1770 63,000
1771–1790 56,000
1791–1800 79,000
1801–1810 124,000[9]
1810–1865 51,000
Total 597,000

Oh yeah, the American Indian, yes we recognize that they belong on their reservation, drunk, unemployed, incarcerated, really good stuff.
Those 5,000 could have 9,000. If you remember, the muslims used to attack villages & police outposts and then run back to their safe zones. Then the General came up from the alley and stopped all that nonsense. Those 8,00 have never been verified as of yet, only in the minds of those who want to believe in it.
It is a known fact and is finally being brought to the U.S. gov ernment's attention that veterans have a long time before curing their ills if they even do that. You can lie about Serbia but not here, I know better. You have to learn to tell the truth or don't speak at all, knucklehead.

anode

pre 8 godina

I can never understand how the US doesn't crumple with shame, creating false realities and then backing them with bombs and nukes. They get no respect from me for this one.

just a note

pre 8 godina

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)
My guess is that you are actually writing on your computer from one of those isolated areas or one of their close allies. Because no Serb seems to migrate to those non-isolated areas such as Russia.

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
The US did take land from the American Indians, and their treatment was cruel and inhumane at times and this will always be a black mark on US history, but it was no different to anything happening for centuries all around the world. The world of today is vastly different from the world 150 years ago, and did you know the US govt recognizes US Indian Tribes as sovereign nations within the US with rights to self government but yet receive all the protections of the US and US funding. Can Serbia say that to any of the ethnic people it has butchered?
You say bought and used slaves for a few hundred years! The US is today 239 years old, technically 232 as that is when the government was formed. All slaves were freed in 1863 so the US, mainly the south owned slaves for 80 years of its existence far less than a few hundred years. And today the US president is African American, lets talk when the Serbian President is Albanian.
The US veteran administration is overrun but ANY veteran can receive treatment at ANY hospital in the US.
US did not create ISIS!
5000 women and children killed in Kosovo? My assumption is you are talking about Serbs, please, bring some facts to the table to support that other than wild dreams.
Maybe an adequate resolution should be that before any statement made by a Serb must be verified by two independent non Serb sources before it can be credible.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics.
(Hank the Tank, 9 July 2015 22:27)

Why dont the US define the genocide that took place when the native American indians were exterminated?
(kent, 9 July 2015 18:35)

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)

Hey guys, you missed a simple fact: the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. The international community has not determined that any of the examples you mention is genocide so I'm not sure what you are talking about!

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Well, the international community (including Russia), has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. Obviously you are a nobody to dispute the findings of the international community!
----------

They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Even your statement above proves the fact that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide since you say "many of them" (i.e. not ALL of them). So, even by your own statement, some innocent men and boys were slaughtered by the Bosnian Serb army.
----------

The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

So, it is US' fault for the genocide committed by the Bosnian Serb army?! So you are saying that Mladic was a US puppet?!!!!!!!!
----------

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Really?! This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2idKu3A9U shows at 41:35 that Mr. Vitaly Churkin is indeed very isolated but to my knowledge he is not the US or the EU representative!

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is a proud day for my country. Even Republicans and Democrats were able to agree, god knows how rare that is. Unanimously! It means, in the end, that we speak in one voice here, condemning the genocide - and condemning genocide denial. Congratulations to our House of Representatives. God bless all of the victims, and the survivors.

Today I am proud to say I'm an American.

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics. If the US didn't have military bases n Turkey the House of Hypocrites would probably pass a bill condeming Turkiets mass murder of armenian women and children. While they are at it they shoul pass a bill condeming the genocide on americas native population and the death of 1 million vietnames.

just plain pitiful

pre 8 godina

and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
You bring no one to your side when all you have is lies, this is not the 19th century, everything is documented and you can lie all day long the only people who are going to jump on your bandwagon are the same impotents who are already there.
True people are not blind.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 9 July 2015 16:46)
OK, I will check back with you in 30-40 years to see how close we get.
Oh, wait I will have died of old age by then so I guess I will miss it.

michael drakulich

pre 8 godina

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Until few years ago when Serbia parliament accepted what happened in Srebrenica, majority of Serbian public believed that Srebrenica never happened and it was a fabricated by USA and the West.
Look at the voting in Serbian parliament which accepted what happened in Srebrenica 127 in favor of resolution and 125 against!!!!!Only 2 votes difference for something that was very obvious.

Unfortunately 80% of Serbian society are either Nazi or chetnik in their mentality. Look at Peggy and Ari Gold and their supporters and you will have an idea what Serbian society thinks.

In the other words 80% of Serbians,are ready to open another war and kill more non Serbs in the way, if the West and NATO leave Balkans.
Sorry but this is the truth, and as long as you still think about the war retaking Kosovo , Montenegro , RS or Croatia, NATO and the West will stay in Balkans and will corner you as they have done for the last 20 years.

Kudos to USA and EU for adopting the resolution about Srebrenica!
Shame on Russia for siding with the murderous!

factman

pre 8 godina

a new day:

I stand by my prediction.

"it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"

You will see. Sit tight. But make no mistake, it is underway.

Economics trumps all.

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

When he went to Yale for his masters, what a steaming load of garbage. One would assume a degree from an east coast, who cares university, would offer more. Demonstrating that the stupidity of schools, and their backwards ass beliefs , such as yale, harvard, princeton, to name of few, spew out thoughtless worms. Hey Gates, the Tesla you may be driving that mommy and daddy bought you because your degree adds up to zero, was a Serbian.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies. They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.

The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy you claim not a single Serb Terrorists exists?

The Hague is overflowing with Convicted Serbian Orthodox Terrorists.

Ask the Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovar how "innocent" the " saintly" serbs truly are.

Albo Troll Wranger

pre 8 godina

LOL now which one of our regular trolls is writing as "Madison Gates"? Or maybe they're all the same person. Rocky does have multiple personalities.

Masters from Yale? Dude, if you're going to make stuff up, don't make it obvious you're lying.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.
(Madison Gates, 9 July 2015 13:07)
===========================
And those Bosniaks and Albanians have turned out to be terrorists in your country (providing you are indeed not one of those immigrants).
Not a single Serbs turned out to be a terrorist even though you haven't met a single one. Funny that. Still feel sorry for them?

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Madison ( good tennis player). You are hoisted by your own petard. You quite clearly state you never met a Serb and have only heard one side. Yale, really?

a New day

pre 8 godina

factman,

You wrote:
The resolution will fail because the US does not support it.

The tide of American policy is shifting in support of Serbia.

(factman, 3 July 2015 21:53

I replied with examples of a speech by Obama and a statement by the US Ambassador to the UN to the contrary and you dismissed them as not Obama's true feelings, (since he did not say HE condemned?), and you dismissed Samantha Powers statement with
"Of course, it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"
And now you have congress enacting a resolution.
Don't know who the "government" is that is changing as you have a Democratic president, Republican congress and the main Ambassador all on the same page.
Maybe you are not in possession of all the facts.

I think the official position of the US is well known on this subject.

Madison Gates

pre 8 godina

Serbs are disgusting, I can't believe they'd even try to defend themselves after committing genocide against Bosnian Muslims. How can anyone be so uneducated!
When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Until few years ago when Serbia parliament accepted what happened in Srebrenica, majority of Serbian public believed that Srebrenica never happened and it was a fabricated by USA and the West.
Look at the voting in Serbian parliament which accepted what happened in Srebrenica 127 in favor of resolution and 125 against!!!!!Only 2 votes difference for something that was very obvious.

Unfortunately 80% of Serbian society are either Nazi or chetnik in their mentality. Look at Peggy and Ari Gold and their supporters and you will have an idea what Serbian society thinks.

In the other words 80% of Serbians,are ready to open another war and kill more non Serbs in the way, if the West and NATO leave Balkans.
Sorry but this is the truth, and as long as you still think about the war retaking Kosovo , Montenegro , RS or Croatia, NATO and the West will stay in Balkans and will corner you as they have done for the last 20 years.

Kudos to USA and EU for adopting the resolution about Srebrenica!
Shame on Russia for siding with the murderous!

Madison Gates

pre 8 godina

Serbs are disgusting, I can't believe they'd even try to defend themselves after committing genocide against Bosnian Muslims. How can anyone be so uneducated!
When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Madison ( good tennis player). You are hoisted by your own petard. You quite clearly state you never met a Serb and have only heard one side. Yale, really?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy you claim not a single Serb Terrorists exists?

The Hague is overflowing with Convicted Serbian Orthodox Terrorists.

Ask the Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovar how "innocent" the " saintly" serbs truly are.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.
(Madison Gates, 9 July 2015 13:07)
===========================
And those Bosniaks and Albanians have turned out to be terrorists in your country (providing you are indeed not one of those immigrants).
Not a single Serbs turned out to be a terrorist even though you haven't met a single one. Funny that. Still feel sorry for them?

Zoran

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies. They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.

The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.

michael drakulich

pre 8 godina

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

When he went to Yale for his masters, what a steaming load of garbage. One would assume a degree from an east coast, who cares university, would offer more. Demonstrating that the stupidity of schools, and their backwards ass beliefs , such as yale, harvard, princeton, to name of few, spew out thoughtless worms. Hey Gates, the Tesla you may be driving that mommy and daddy bought you because your degree adds up to zero, was a Serbian.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 9 July 2015 16:46)
OK, I will check back with you in 30-40 years to see how close we get.
Oh, wait I will have died of old age by then so I guess I will miss it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics.
(Hank the Tank, 9 July 2015 22:27)

Why dont the US define the genocide that took place when the native American indians were exterminated?
(kent, 9 July 2015 18:35)

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)

Hey guys, you missed a simple fact: the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. The international community has not determined that any of the examples you mention is genocide so I'm not sure what you are talking about!

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Well, the international community (including Russia), has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. Obviously you are a nobody to dispute the findings of the international community!
----------

They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Even your statement above proves the fact that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide since you say "many of them" (i.e. not ALL of them). So, even by your own statement, some innocent men and boys were slaughtered by the Bosnian Serb army.
----------

The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

So, it is US' fault for the genocide committed by the Bosnian Serb army?! So you are saying that Mladic was a US puppet?!!!!!!!!
----------

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Really?! This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2idKu3A9U shows at 41:35 that Mr. Vitaly Churkin is indeed very isolated but to my knowledge he is not the US or the EU representative!

a New day

pre 8 godina

factman,

You wrote:
The resolution will fail because the US does not support it.

The tide of American policy is shifting in support of Serbia.

(factman, 3 July 2015 21:53

I replied with examples of a speech by Obama and a statement by the US Ambassador to the UN to the contrary and you dismissed them as not Obama's true feelings, (since he did not say HE condemned?), and you dismissed Samantha Powers statement with
"Of course, it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"
And now you have congress enacting a resolution.
Don't know who the "government" is that is changing as you have a Democratic president, Republican congress and the main Ambassador all on the same page.
Maybe you are not in possession of all the facts.

I think the official position of the US is well known on this subject.

Albo Troll Wranger

pre 8 godina

LOL now which one of our regular trolls is writing as "Madison Gates"? Or maybe they're all the same person. Rocky does have multiple personalities.

Masters from Yale? Dude, if you're going to make stuff up, don't make it obvious you're lying.

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is a proud day for my country. Even Republicans and Democrats were able to agree, god knows how rare that is. Unanimously! It means, in the end, that we speak in one voice here, condemning the genocide - and condemning genocide denial. Congratulations to our House of Representatives. God bless all of the victims, and the survivors.

Today I am proud to say I'm an American.

factman

pre 8 godina

a new day:

I stand by my prediction.

"it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"

You will see. Sit tight. But make no mistake, it is underway.

Economics trumps all.

just plain pitiful

pre 8 godina

and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
You bring no one to your side when all you have is lies, this is not the 19th century, everything is documented and you can lie all day long the only people who are going to jump on your bandwagon are the same impotents who are already there.
True people are not blind.

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics. If the US didn't have military bases n Turkey the House of Hypocrites would probably pass a bill condeming Turkiets mass murder of armenian women and children. While they are at it they shoul pass a bill condeming the genocide on americas native population and the death of 1 million vietnames.

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
The US did take land from the American Indians, and their treatment was cruel and inhumane at times and this will always be a black mark on US history, but it was no different to anything happening for centuries all around the world. The world of today is vastly different from the world 150 years ago, and did you know the US govt recognizes US Indian Tribes as sovereign nations within the US with rights to self government but yet receive all the protections of the US and US funding. Can Serbia say that to any of the ethnic people it has butchered?
You say bought and used slaves for a few hundred years! The US is today 239 years old, technically 232 as that is when the government was formed. All slaves were freed in 1863 so the US, mainly the south owned slaves for 80 years of its existence far less than a few hundred years. And today the US president is African American, lets talk when the Serbian President is Albanian.
The US veteran administration is overrun but ANY veteran can receive treatment at ANY hospital in the US.
US did not create ISIS!
5000 women and children killed in Kosovo? My assumption is you are talking about Serbs, please, bring some facts to the table to support that other than wild dreams.
Maybe an adequate resolution should be that before any statement made by a Serb must be verified by two independent non Serb sources before it can be credible.

just a note

pre 8 godina

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)
My guess is that you are actually writing on your computer from one of those isolated areas or one of their close allies. Because no Serb seems to migrate to those non-isolated areas such as Russia.

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

(michael, 10 July 2015 15:11)
Maybe a little medication will go a long way before posting. I would wager if you presented your post to any psychiatrist they would immediately diagnose the writer as Schizophrenic.
Not that I want to hear more from you but curious as to what the dates and numbers mean. Also any American Indian today is not bound to live on a reservation as a matter of fact most have moved off. They are American citizens and can live and work anywhere in the country, the same as Serbian imigrants who have achieved citizenship. Even off the reservation they still retain all their rights within the tribal organization and still receive their annual payments from trusts set up by the federal govt for each of the recognized tribes. As well as special scholarships only available for Native Americans to study at any of the US colleges.
I do think that the US needs to do more for its veterans, but even at the problems they have, do you think it comes close to comparison to veterans say in Serbia???

anode

pre 8 godina

I can never understand how the US doesn't crumple with shame, creating false realities and then backing them with bombs and nukes. They get no respect from me for this one.

michael

pre 8 godina

For learn a lot,
Date

Numbers

1620–1700 21,000
1701–1760 189,000
1761–1770 63,000
1771–1790 56,000
1791–1800 79,000
1801–1810 124,000[9]
1810–1865 51,000
Total 597,000

Oh yeah, the American Indian, yes we recognize that they belong on their reservation, drunk, unemployed, incarcerated, really good stuff.
Those 5,000 could have 9,000. If you remember, the muslims used to attack villages & police outposts and then run back to their safe zones. Then the General came up from the alley and stopped all that nonsense. Those 8,00 have never been verified as of yet, only in the minds of those who want to believe in it.
It is a known fact and is finally being brought to the U.S. gov ernment's attention that veterans have a long time before curing their ills if they even do that. You can lie about Serbia but not here, I know better. You have to learn to tell the truth or don't speak at all, knucklehead.

michael

pre 8 godina

those dates represent the slaves brought over during those years.Although Native Americans have been held to have both inherent rights and rights guaranteed, either explicitly or implicitly, by treaties with the federal government, the government retains the ultimate power and authority to either abrogate or protect Native American rights. In other words treaties are made to be broken, again and again if necessary, nothing new. The American soldier is treated like crap when he is done with his service, especially if immediate care is needed. This issue has been addressed somewhat recently but not as it should be. enough said on this

Madison Gates

pre 8 godina

Serbs are disgusting, I can't believe they'd even try to defend themselves after committing genocide against Bosnian Muslims. How can anyone be so uneducated!
When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

When I went to Yale for my Masters, I met so many Bosniaks that came as immigrants and got scholarships, but not a single Serb.

Bosnians will forever have my sympathy.
(Madison Gates, 9 July 2015 13:07)
===========================
And those Bosniaks and Albanians have turned out to be terrorists in your country (providing you are indeed not one of those immigrants).
Not a single Serbs turned out to be a terrorist even though you haven't met a single one. Funny that. Still feel sorry for them?

Zoran

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies. They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.

The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.

Albo Troll Wranger

pre 8 godina

LOL now which one of our regular trolls is writing as "Madison Gates"? Or maybe they're all the same person. Rocky does have multiple personalities.

Masters from Yale? Dude, if you're going to make stuff up, don't make it obvious you're lying.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Until few years ago when Serbia parliament accepted what happened in Srebrenica, majority of Serbian public believed that Srebrenica never happened and it was a fabricated by USA and the West.
Look at the voting in Serbian parliament which accepted what happened in Srebrenica 127 in favor of resolution and 125 against!!!!!Only 2 votes difference for something that was very obvious.

Unfortunately 80% of Serbian society are either Nazi or chetnik in their mentality. Look at Peggy and Ari Gold and their supporters and you will have an idea what Serbian society thinks.

In the other words 80% of Serbians,are ready to open another war and kill more non Serbs in the way, if the West and NATO leave Balkans.
Sorry but this is the truth, and as long as you still think about the war retaking Kosovo , Montenegro , RS or Croatia, NATO and the West will stay in Balkans and will corner you as they have done for the last 20 years.

Kudos to USA and EU for adopting the resolution about Srebrenica!
Shame on Russia for siding with the murderous!

michael drakulich

pre 8 godina

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

When he went to Yale for his masters, what a steaming load of garbage. One would assume a degree from an east coast, who cares university, would offer more. Demonstrating that the stupidity of schools, and their backwards ass beliefs , such as yale, harvard, princeton, to name of few, spew out thoughtless worms. Hey Gates, the Tesla you may be driving that mommy and daddy bought you because your degree adds up to zero, was a Serbian.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy you claim not a single Serb Terrorists exists?

The Hague is overflowing with Convicted Serbian Orthodox Terrorists.

Ask the Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovar how "innocent" the " saintly" serbs truly are.

factman

pre 8 godina

a new day:

I stand by my prediction.

"it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"

You will see. Sit tight. But make no mistake, it is underway.

Economics trumps all.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Madison ( good tennis player). You are hoisted by your own petard. You quite clearly state you never met a Serb and have only heard one side. Yale, really?

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics. If the US didn't have military bases n Turkey the House of Hypocrites would probably pass a bill condeming Turkiets mass murder of armenian women and children. While they are at it they shoul pass a bill condeming the genocide on americas native population and the death of 1 million vietnames.

roberto

pre 8 godina

This is a proud day for my country. Even Republicans and Democrats were able to agree, god knows how rare that is. Unanimously! It means, in the end, that we speak in one voice here, condemning the genocide - and condemning genocide denial. Congratulations to our House of Representatives. God bless all of the victims, and the survivors.

Today I am proud to say I'm an American.

a New day

pre 8 godina

factman,

You wrote:
The resolution will fail because the US does not support it.

The tide of American policy is shifting in support of Serbia.

(factman, 3 July 2015 21:53

I replied with examples of a speech by Obama and a statement by the US Ambassador to the UN to the contrary and you dismissed them as not Obama's true feelings, (since he did not say HE condemned?), and you dismissed Samantha Powers statement with
"Of course, it takes time for a large government to line up all its actors"
And now you have congress enacting a resolution.
Don't know who the "government" is that is changing as you have a Democratic president, Republican congress and the main Ambassador all on the same page.
Maybe you are not in possession of all the facts.

I think the official position of the US is well known on this subject.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 9 July 2015 16:46)
OK, I will check back with you in 30-40 years to see how close we get.
Oh, wait I will have died of old age by then so I guess I will miss it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The fact that the US doesn't consider the slaughter of 1 million armenians to qulify as genoaide just shows the hypocricy of american and western politics.
(Hank the Tank, 9 July 2015 22:27)

Why dont the US define the genocide that took place when the native American indians were exterminated?
(kent, 9 July 2015 18:35)

The U.S. has a lot of nerve. Chased the American Indian from their land, put them on reservations, brought and used slaves for a few hundred years, created ISIS because taking power from Saddam Hussein, leaves its veterans to beg for care and jobs. What type of resolution can you come up with for the 500,000+ Serbs driven from Croatia and destruction of at least 39 villages and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)

Hey guys, you missed a simple fact: the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. The international community has not determined that any of the examples you mention is genocide so I'm not sure what you are talking about!

anode

pre 8 godina

I can never understand how the US doesn't crumple with shame, creating false realities and then backing them with bombs and nukes. They get no respect from me for this one.

michael

pre 8 godina

For learn a lot,
Date

Numbers

1620–1700 21,000
1701–1760 189,000
1761–1770 63,000
1771–1790 56,000
1791–1800 79,000
1801–1810 124,000[9]
1810–1865 51,000
Total 597,000

Oh yeah, the American Indian, yes we recognize that they belong on their reservation, drunk, unemployed, incarcerated, really good stuff.
Those 5,000 could have 9,000. If you remember, the muslims used to attack villages & police outposts and then run back to their safe zones. Then the General came up from the alley and stopped all that nonsense. Those 8,00 have never been verified as of yet, only in the minds of those who want to believe in it.
It is a known fact and is finally being brought to the U.S. gov ernment's attention that veterans have a long time before curing their ills if they even do that. You can lie about Serbia but not here, I know better. You have to learn to tell the truth or don't speak at all, knucklehead.

michael

pre 8 godina

those dates represent the slaves brought over during those years.Although Native Americans have been held to have both inherent rights and rights guaranteed, either explicitly or implicitly, by treaties with the federal government, the government retains the ultimate power and authority to either abrogate or protect Native American rights. In other words treaties are made to be broken, again and again if necessary, nothing new. The American soldier is treated like crap when he is done with his service, especially if immediate care is needed. This issue has been addressed somewhat recently but not as it should be. enough said on this

just plain pitiful

pre 8 godina

and killing at least 5,000 women and children in Kossovo? People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
You bring no one to your side when all you have is lies, this is not the 19th century, everything is documented and you can lie all day long the only people who are going to jump on your bandwagon are the same impotents who are already there.
True people are not blind.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The US and EU, that is, the "international community" have their own resolutions because they can't convince the world of their lies.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Well, the international community (including Russia), has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide. Obviously you are a nobody to dispute the findings of the international community!
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They say unarmed men and boys whereas many of them were cold blooded killers of Oric, who killed women and children on religious days like Christmas and Easter.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Even your statement above proves the fact that what happened in Srebrenica was genocide since you say "many of them" (i.e. not ALL of them). So, even by your own statement, some innocent men and boys were slaughtered by the Bosnian Serb army.
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The US was deeply involved in those crimes, protecting those responsible for the massacres and diverting blame to the Serbs so they can get away with murder.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

So, it is US' fault for the genocide committed by the Bosnian Serb army?! So you are saying that Mladic was a US puppet?!!!!!!!!
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The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)

Really?! This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2idKu3A9U shows at 41:35 that Mr. Vitaly Churkin is indeed very isolated but to my knowledge he is not the US or the EU representative!

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

People are not blind to this nonsense!
(michael drakulich, 9 July 2015 17:18)
The US did take land from the American Indians, and their treatment was cruel and inhumane at times and this will always be a black mark on US history, but it was no different to anything happening for centuries all around the world. The world of today is vastly different from the world 150 years ago, and did you know the US govt recognizes US Indian Tribes as sovereign nations within the US with rights to self government but yet receive all the protections of the US and US funding. Can Serbia say that to any of the ethnic people it has butchered?
You say bought and used slaves for a few hundred years! The US is today 239 years old, technically 232 as that is when the government was formed. All slaves were freed in 1863 so the US, mainly the south owned slaves for 80 years of its existence far less than a few hundred years. And today the US president is African American, lets talk when the Serbian President is Albanian.
The US veteran administration is overrun but ANY veteran can receive treatment at ANY hospital in the US.
US did not create ISIS!
5000 women and children killed in Kosovo? My assumption is you are talking about Serbs, please, bring some facts to the table to support that other than wild dreams.
Maybe an adequate resolution should be that before any statement made by a Serb must be verified by two independent non Serb sources before it can be credible.

just a note

pre 8 godina

The world is awake and the US and EU are becoming increasingly isolated.
(Zoran, 9 July 2015 16:25)
My guess is that you are actually writing on your computer from one of those isolated areas or one of their close allies. Because no Serb seems to migrate to those non-isolated areas such as Russia.

a lot to learn

pre 8 godina

(michael, 10 July 2015 15:11)
Maybe a little medication will go a long way before posting. I would wager if you presented your post to any psychiatrist they would immediately diagnose the writer as Schizophrenic.
Not that I want to hear more from you but curious as to what the dates and numbers mean. Also any American Indian today is not bound to live on a reservation as a matter of fact most have moved off. They are American citizens and can live and work anywhere in the country, the same as Serbian imigrants who have achieved citizenship. Even off the reservation they still retain all their rights within the tribal organization and still receive their annual payments from trusts set up by the federal govt for each of the recognized tribes. As well as special scholarships only available for Native Americans to study at any of the US colleges.
I do think that the US needs to do more for its veterans, but even at the problems they have, do you think it comes close to comparison to veterans say in Serbia???