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Saturday, 04.07.2015.

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President asks Russia to veto British resolution

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic has asked Russia to veto at the United Nations Security Council a British resolution on Srebrenica

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre?
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:31)

Hey Peggy... you've missed some news. Oric is still alive. There was no retaliation or massacre against Oric.

You might want to visit a doctor because from the comments that you're making it looks like you've lost your mental equilibrium since your saying that because X kills somebody, revenge against Y is justified!!! Not to mention that revenge killing in the civilized world is never justified unless you want to call Serbs barbaric and savages (i.e. like Oric or worse).
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For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Wooooooow.... how angelic the Serbs were. I'm amazed.
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They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Yup the Serb soldier were heroically fighting against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back. These supernatural 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back were so dangerous!!!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Please quote Western government saying that no crimes were committed against the Serbs in Bosnia.
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Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Could not care less what Serbs will or won't say. The international community has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide.
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Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

That's true. The genocide in Srebrenica was committed by members of the VRS (according to the international community), not by Serbia. That's why I don't get why Serbia is making such a big fuss about it as if it were Serbia to have committed the genocide!

My dear Peggy, regardless of how you spin it, your narrative does not have a shred of logic. Hate has totally blocked your brain, which is why I'd again advice you consult a doctor because your posting are increasingly looking like the ravings of a madwoman...

icj1

pre 8 godina

You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Well, the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide and could not care less about the Serbian Government's exceptions.

On the other hand, Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide (or so we're told) so not sure why the Serbian Government even cares to take exception or perhaps it knows something that it has not revealed to the public!

j

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Why? You believe killing thousands of captured people in cold blood somehow makes it better if its not called a genocide? You believe that escaping the genocide label you are also escaping the direct paragon with the NAZIs? You can put any label you want. There has been no other nation in Europe since after WWII that killed the people it captured by the thousands. Such total disregard for human life was a Serbian trait first and foremost. You have still to recognize that.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes
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What a simplistic view you hold.
For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave. They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there. Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide. Big difference between denying crimes and refusing to call it Genocide.
Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.
(Comm. Parrison, 6 July 2015 16:59
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Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre? When Serbs are being butchered they are not allowed to retaliate? Oric's crimes were just as bad and brutal but nobody cares about that.
Also, denying that it was genocide does not mean denying the massacre, so please stop repeating the same old line that Serbs are denying the massacre. Serbs are only denying that it was genocide.

royals

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Roberto as usual is correct - and as usual tells us that a horribly wrong way.

Putin is the counterpart / mirror of Thaçi: a dumb, violent fool who is still smart enough to show or pretend to be dangerous.

I can't judge the quality (or "quality") of written / spoken Albanian of Thaçi - but everyone who happen to finish at least a middle / high 10 schoolyears in Russia can judge the "quality" of Russian "commanded" by Putin. It tells all.

The other question is that why British pulled out that thing now. Of course to make Russia veto (and every veto is a humiliation). Rightfully, they assume, China will abstain.
Why do they want Russia being humiliated now? Partly because of Ukraine, partly because of Middle East.

Nothing will be achieved of course, it's just a distraction.

Nothing good will be achieved either. The approval of Putin (exactly like approval of Thaçi) is based on their role in a conflict. If there is no conflict... no approval for either one.

Therefore - unfortunately - this will (again) cement Putin where it is.

Roberto is right that Putin belongs to the trash of the history. But the more Russia is challenged, the later he will land up there.

Ergo: Putin is the mirror of the "West" precisely like Thaçi is the mirror of the "East".

Out of these two the #1 I would like to get rid of is the Orbángutáng, but that's my priority.

Xd

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes. I am sorry to say this but the entire Serbia is nation without a conscience and as such Serbia should remain isolated until it learns to become part of the civilized world. No EU and very limited trade and diplomatic relations with all of its neighbors. Thank god Serbs are no longer a threat to any of the surrounding countries otherwise Serbia would again attack one of its neighbhors.
What a bunch of savages, bunch of suicidal maniacs.

Comm. Parrison

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.

Bob

pre 8 godina

I am a different Bob from the other Bob who has posted on this page.

Russia is already despised for its invasions in Ukraine - for Serbia to ask for Russia to defend against an atrocity done by Serbs compounds the evils and the consequent denials.

romanticfool

pre 8 godina

Fas, when Hitler tried to wipe out the Serbs during April to June 1941 where was Russia, were they not genociding the balts up north. Russian right wingers have also heard about Russian Corps and its clashes with chetniks and partisans. No superpower gives support without conditions that benefit it.

drseuss

pre 8 godina

Is this guy bipolar, well I suppose sending all those years with Seselj does that to a person. Russia is not your personal insurance company.

fas

pre 8 godina

Hapless US imposed quisling cult in Belgrade or not, Russia always stand by their friends and allies.

Especially in a case like this, a NATO member weasel state trying to white wash their genocidal onslaught on Serbia.

Good for a laugh

pre 8 godina

The EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU.
(Paul, 4 July 2015 21:51)
Only a Serb could think that way! The only value Serbia adds to the EU is in Having it under control guarantees peace in the Balkans. There is no other possible contribution that Serbia has to offer. As a matter of fact it will cost billions to bring Serbia up to EU standards.
This is the wrong forum for stand up comedy.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Paul you claim the EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU?

You are dillusional since the EU commands Serbia with requirements to be fulfilled and serbia can do nothing but be an obedient dog and just jump when told to jump.And sit when told to sit.

Serbia can go with Russia and Greece into isolation ,economic depression and bankruptcy.
No one is denying you your right to self destruct......
Have fun😉

Avni

pre 8 godina

@ Azir

Absolutely right. Serbs like Russia ask Russia for support but have no problem with EU money. People without morals usually do that.

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

These losers belong together serbia, russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)


I know that Albanians already belong to the Golden Billion. Not for their living standards but as property. Because YES SIR is the only respond you are allowed to do for the commands. But please tell me which of the 3 mentioned “losers” lives worse than you Albanians ? So it’s the voice of envy that barks from your DEEP THROAT. And if you mean to look bigger by writing 3 great words with such small letters you also look miserable. I pity you no matter in which of the two reservations/terrariums you exist.

From Russia with never dying love.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Only Russia and God for Serbia! Russia our sacred and ancient Mother and our Father Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven! Russia gave us life and Russia keeps Serbia alive! God Bless Czar Vlade and God Bless Russia, Boze Pravde!!!

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

Failed state? So why does Albania want to join still when Albanians are all running way from their paradise?

euractiv - Ad campaign in Albania: German embassy warns against 'economic asylum'
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/ad-campaign-albania-german-embassy-warns-against-economic-asylum-315768

icj1

pre 8 godina

"The Security Council will most likely debate the British draft on July 7. Serbia has not yet been officially invited to attend this session."

Hmm... Why should Serbia be invited to attend that session?! Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide committed in Srebrenica, or so we're told.

But if Serbia had something to do with it, Serbia can certainly ask to participate in that session withou the right to vote.

icj1

pre 8 godina

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)

Actually this reminds me of something...

B92 are you aware what's happening next door in Greece?! It's hard to find a major news organization in the world which does not have some news about what's happenning in Greece, but in the B92 English site, where even the throwing of stones is news, there is a deafening silence for months about the crisis in Greece!!!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

We have no choice. After 20 years of being blamed for everything, with no acknowledgement of Serb victims whatsoever, this biased resolution, written by a Bosnian Muslim called hecla at the FCO, is a blatant attempt at demonising one people in a civil war. We have paid for our crimes, and then some, while the others revel in the charade with no censure whatsoever. Enough is enough.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbia can also ask to join Russia for financial assistance instead of the EU being that they share the same cultural,religious, historic cave man mentality.

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

We have no choice. After 20 years of being blamed for everything, with no acknowledgement of Serb victims whatsoever, this biased resolution, written by a Bosnian Muslim called hecla at the FCO, is a blatant attempt at demonising one people in a civil war. We have paid for our crimes, and then some, while the others revel in the charade with no censure whatsoever. Enough is enough.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Only Russia and God for Serbia! Russia our sacred and ancient Mother and our Father Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven! Russia gave us life and Russia keeps Serbia alive! God Bless Czar Vlade and God Bless Russia, Boze Pravde!!!

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

These losers belong together serbia, russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)


I know that Albanians already belong to the Golden Billion. Not for their living standards but as property. Because YES SIR is the only respond you are allowed to do for the commands. But please tell me which of the 3 mentioned “losers” lives worse than you Albanians ? So it’s the voice of envy that barks from your DEEP THROAT. And if you mean to look bigger by writing 3 great words with such small letters you also look miserable. I pity you no matter in which of the two reservations/terrariums you exist.

From Russia with never dying love.

Avni

pre 8 godina

@ Azir

Absolutely right. Serbs like Russia ask Russia for support but have no problem with EU money. People without morals usually do that.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbia can also ask to join Russia for financial assistance instead of the EU being that they share the same cultural,religious, historic cave man mentality.

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

Failed state? So why does Albania want to join still when Albanians are all running way from their paradise?

euractiv - Ad campaign in Albania: German embassy warns against 'economic asylum'
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/ad-campaign-albania-german-embassy-warns-against-economic-asylum-315768

icj1

pre 8 godina

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)

Actually this reminds me of something...

B92 are you aware what's happening next door in Greece?! It's hard to find a major news organization in the world which does not have some news about what's happenning in Greece, but in the B92 English site, where even the throwing of stones is news, there is a deafening silence for months about the crisis in Greece!!!

icj1

pre 8 godina

"The Security Council will most likely debate the British draft on July 7. Serbia has not yet been officially invited to attend this session."

Hmm... Why should Serbia be invited to attend that session?! Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide committed in Srebrenica, or so we're told.

But if Serbia had something to do with it, Serbia can certainly ask to participate in that session withou the right to vote.

Good for a laugh

pre 8 godina

The EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU.
(Paul, 4 July 2015 21:51)
Only a Serb could think that way! The only value Serbia adds to the EU is in Having it under control guarantees peace in the Balkans. There is no other possible contribution that Serbia has to offer. As a matter of fact it will cost billions to bring Serbia up to EU standards.
This is the wrong forum for stand up comedy.

fas

pre 8 godina

Hapless US imposed quisling cult in Belgrade or not, Russia always stand by their friends and allies.

Especially in a case like this, a NATO member weasel state trying to white wash their genocidal onslaught on Serbia.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Paul you claim the EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU?

You are dillusional since the EU commands Serbia with requirements to be fulfilled and serbia can do nothing but be an obedient dog and just jump when told to jump.And sit when told to sit.

Serbia can go with Russia and Greece into isolation ,economic depression and bankruptcy.
No one is denying you your right to self destruct......
Have fun😉

drseuss

pre 8 godina

Is this guy bipolar, well I suppose sending all those years with Seselj does that to a person. Russia is not your personal insurance company.

Xd

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes. I am sorry to say this but the entire Serbia is nation without a conscience and as such Serbia should remain isolated until it learns to become part of the civilized world. No EU and very limited trade and diplomatic relations with all of its neighbors. Thank god Serbs are no longer a threat to any of the surrounding countries otherwise Serbia would again attack one of its neighbhors.
What a bunch of savages, bunch of suicidal maniacs.

Comm. Parrison

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.

Bob

pre 8 godina

I am a different Bob from the other Bob who has posted on this page.

Russia is already despised for its invasions in Ukraine - for Serbia to ask for Russia to defend against an atrocity done by Serbs compounds the evils and the consequent denials.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes
=========================
What a simplistic view you hold.
For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave. They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there. Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide. Big difference between denying crimes and refusing to call it Genocide.
Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.
(Comm. Parrison, 6 July 2015 16:59
====================================

Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre? When Serbs are being butchered they are not allowed to retaliate? Oric's crimes were just as bad and brutal but nobody cares about that.
Also, denying that it was genocide does not mean denying the massacre, so please stop repeating the same old line that Serbs are denying the massacre. Serbs are only denying that it was genocide.

j

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Why? You believe killing thousands of captured people in cold blood somehow makes it better if its not called a genocide? You believe that escaping the genocide label you are also escaping the direct paragon with the NAZIs? You can put any label you want. There has been no other nation in Europe since after WWII that killed the people it captured by the thousands. Such total disregard for human life was a Serbian trait first and foremost. You have still to recognize that.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre?
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:31)

Hey Peggy... you've missed some news. Oric is still alive. There was no retaliation or massacre against Oric.

You might want to visit a doctor because from the comments that you're making it looks like you've lost your mental equilibrium since your saying that because X kills somebody, revenge against Y is justified!!! Not to mention that revenge killing in the civilized world is never justified unless you want to call Serbs barbaric and savages (i.e. like Oric or worse).
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For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Wooooooow.... how angelic the Serbs were. I'm amazed.
----------

They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Yup the Serb soldier were heroically fighting against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back. These supernatural 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back were so dangerous!!!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Please quote Western government saying that no crimes were committed against the Serbs in Bosnia.
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Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Could not care less what Serbs will or won't say. The international community has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide.
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Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

That's true. The genocide in Srebrenica was committed by members of the VRS (according to the international community), not by Serbia. That's why I don't get why Serbia is making such a big fuss about it as if it were Serbia to have committed the genocide!

My dear Peggy, regardless of how you spin it, your narrative does not have a shred of logic. Hate has totally blocked your brain, which is why I'd again advice you consult a doctor because your posting are increasingly looking like the ravings of a madwoman...

romanticfool

pre 8 godina

Fas, when Hitler tried to wipe out the Serbs during April to June 1941 where was Russia, were they not genociding the balts up north. Russian right wingers have also heard about Russian Corps and its clashes with chetniks and partisans. No superpower gives support without conditions that benefit it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Well, the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide and could not care less about the Serbian Government's exceptions.

On the other hand, Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide (or so we're told) so not sure why the Serbian Government even cares to take exception or perhaps it knows something that it has not revealed to the public!

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Roberto as usual is correct - and as usual tells us that a horribly wrong way.

Putin is the counterpart / mirror of Thaçi: a dumb, violent fool who is still smart enough to show or pretend to be dangerous.

I can't judge the quality (or "quality") of written / spoken Albanian of Thaçi - but everyone who happen to finish at least a middle / high 10 schoolyears in Russia can judge the "quality" of Russian "commanded" by Putin. It tells all.

The other question is that why British pulled out that thing now. Of course to make Russia veto (and every veto is a humiliation). Rightfully, they assume, China will abstain.
Why do they want Russia being humiliated now? Partly because of Ukraine, partly because of Middle East.

Nothing will be achieved of course, it's just a distraction.

Nothing good will be achieved either. The approval of Putin (exactly like approval of Thaçi) is based on their role in a conflict. If there is no conflict... no approval for either one.

Therefore - unfortunately - this will (again) cement Putin where it is.

Roberto is right that Putin belongs to the trash of the history. But the more Russia is challenged, the later he will land up there.

Ergo: Putin is the mirror of the "West" precisely like Thaçi is the mirror of the "East".

Out of these two the #1 I would like to get rid of is the Orbángutáng, but that's my priority.

royals

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Serbia can also ask to join Russia for financial assistance instead of the EU being that they share the same cultural,religious, historic cave man mentality.

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.

Avni

pre 8 godina

@ Azir

Absolutely right. Serbs like Russia ask Russia for support but have no problem with EU money. People without morals usually do that.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Only Russia and God for Serbia! Russia our sacred and ancient Mother and our Father Crucified and Holy in the Kingdom of Heaven! Russia gave us life and Russia keeps Serbia alive! God Bless Czar Vlade and God Bless Russia, Boze Pravde!!!

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

These losers belong together serbia, russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)


I know that Albanians already belong to the Golden Billion. Not for their living standards but as property. Because YES SIR is the only respond you are allowed to do for the commands. But please tell me which of the 3 mentioned “losers” lives worse than you Albanians ? So it’s the voice of envy that barks from your DEEP THROAT. And if you mean to look bigger by writing 3 great words with such small letters you also look miserable. I pity you no matter in which of the two reservations/terrariums you exist.

From Russia with never dying love.

icj1

pre 8 godina

"The Security Council will most likely debate the British draft on July 7. Serbia has not yet been officially invited to attend this session."

Hmm... Why should Serbia be invited to attend that session?! Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide committed in Srebrenica, or so we're told.

But if Serbia had something to do with it, Serbia can certainly ask to participate in that session withou the right to vote.

Good for a laugh

pre 8 godina

The EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU.
(Paul, 4 July 2015 21:51)
Only a Serb could think that way! The only value Serbia adds to the EU is in Having it under control guarantees peace in the Balkans. There is no other possible contribution that Serbia has to offer. As a matter of fact it will cost billions to bring Serbia up to EU standards.
This is the wrong forum for stand up comedy.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Paul you claim the EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU?

You are dillusional since the EU commands Serbia with requirements to be fulfilled and serbia can do nothing but be an obedient dog and just jump when told to jump.And sit when told to sit.

Serbia can go with Russia and Greece into isolation ,economic depression and bankruptcy.
No one is denying you your right to self destruct......
Have fun😉

icj1

pre 8 godina

EU does not need another failed state like Greece lieing their way in only to sponge the life out of the organization.

These losers belong together serbia,russia and greece cause misery loves company.
(Azir, 4 July 2015 13:56)

Actually this reminds me of something...

B92 are you aware what's happening next door in Greece?! It's hard to find a major news organization in the world which does not have some news about what's happenning in Greece, but in the B92 English site, where even the throwing of stones is news, there is a deafening silence for months about the crisis in Greece!!!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

We have no choice. After 20 years of being blamed for everything, with no acknowledgement of Serb victims whatsoever, this biased resolution, written by a Bosnian Muslim called hecla at the FCO, is a blatant attempt at demonising one people in a civil war. We have paid for our crimes, and then some, while the others revel in the charade with no censure whatsoever. Enough is enough.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

Failed state? So why does Albania want to join still when Albanians are all running way from their paradise?

euractiv - Ad campaign in Albania: German embassy warns against 'economic asylum'
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/ad-campaign-albania-german-embassy-warns-against-economic-asylum-315768

fas

pre 8 godina

Hapless US imposed quisling cult in Belgrade or not, Russia always stand by their friends and allies.

Especially in a case like this, a NATO member weasel state trying to white wash their genocidal onslaught on Serbia.

Xd

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes. I am sorry to say this but the entire Serbia is nation without a conscience and as such Serbia should remain isolated until it learns to become part of the civilized world. No EU and very limited trade and diplomatic relations with all of its neighbors. Thank god Serbs are no longer a threat to any of the surrounding countries otherwise Serbia would again attack one of its neighbhors.
What a bunch of savages, bunch of suicidal maniacs.

Bob

pre 8 godina

I am a different Bob from the other Bob who has posted on this page.

Russia is already despised for its invasions in Ukraine - for Serbia to ask for Russia to defend against an atrocity done by Serbs compounds the evils and the consequent denials.

drseuss

pre 8 godina

Is this guy bipolar, well I suppose sending all those years with Seselj does that to a person. Russia is not your personal insurance company.

royals

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Who else is responsible besides the Serbs and the small contingent of Dutch soldiers for the horrible events in Srebrenica. For heavens sake wasnt it Serbs that ordered and killed all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. If you don't learn from your past mistakes you are bound to repeat them. Serbs unfortunately have not been able to come to terms with its most recent horrible past. The entire world holds them accountable for the events in Srebrenica and yet Serbs deny the crimes
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What a simplistic view you hold.
For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave. They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there. Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide. Big difference between denying crimes and refusing to call it Genocide.
Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.

j

pre 8 godina

@XD
You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Why? You believe killing thousands of captured people in cold blood somehow makes it better if its not called a genocide? You believe that escaping the genocide label you are also escaping the direct paragon with the NAZIs? You can put any label you want. There has been no other nation in Europe since after WWII that killed the people it captured by the thousands. Such total disregard for human life was a Serbian trait first and foremost. You have still to recognize that.

romanticfool

pre 8 godina

Fas, when Hitler tried to wipe out the Serbs during April to June 1941 where was Russia, were they not genociding the balts up north. Russian right wingers have also heard about Russian Corps and its clashes with chetniks and partisans. No superpower gives support without conditions that benefit it.

Comm. Parrison

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

"Nikolic also sent a letter to all other heads of state of Security Council member-countries. In it, the president stresses that the proposed resolution does not contribute to reconciliation, and is instead putting the blame only on one side."

How surprisingly. This resolution is about Srebrenica, and who else but 'one side' is responsible for the worst massacre on European soil after WW2 which Nicolic denies to recognize as an act of genocide.

In fact, it would contribute to reconciliation when the 'one side' would stop to deny responsibility for their crimes, just like Germany did with the Holocaust, without relativizing it with own victims.
(Comm. Parrison, 6 July 2015 16:59
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Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre? When Serbs are being butchered they are not allowed to retaliate? Oric's crimes were just as bad and brutal but nobody cares about that.
Also, denying that it was genocide does not mean denying the massacre, so please stop repeating the same old line that Serbs are denying the massacre. Serbs are only denying that it was genocide.

icj1

pre 8 godina

You goat herders really are simpletons. Learn your history and facts about the region before spewing crap out of your mouth. The Serbian Government has never denied that atrocities happened in Srebrenica, however, they take exception to it being called genocide.
(royals, 6 July 2015 23:54)

Well, the international community has determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide and could not care less about the Serbian Government's exceptions.

On the other hand, Serbia had nothing to do with the genocide (or so we're told) so not sure why the Serbian Government even cares to take exception or perhaps it knows something that it has not revealed to the public!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Do you even know what led up to what happened in Srebrenica? Have you heard of Oric and what he did to Serbs there? Would you not call that horrible crimes? Did that not cause the anger and retaliation which led to the massacre?
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:31)

Hey Peggy... you've missed some news. Oric is still alive. There was no retaliation or massacre against Oric.

You might want to visit a doctor because from the comments that you're making it looks like you've lost your mental equilibrium since your saying that because X kills somebody, revenge against Y is justified!!! Not to mention that revenge killing in the civilized world is never justified unless you want to call Serbs barbaric and savages (i.e. like Oric or worse).
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For staters, Serbs did not kill all the moslem residents of Srebrenica. They allowed women and children to board the busses and leave.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Wooooooow.... how angelic the Serbs were. I'm amazed.
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They fought the ones who had guns and knives in their hands and butchered Serb women and children around Srebrenica. Sure, there are always civilian casualties as well but it's a well known fact that Muslims give guns to boys as young as 14 and expect them to fight.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Yup the Serb soldier were heroically fighting against 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back. These supernatural 14 year old boys with hands tied behind their back were so dangerous!!!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Nobody is denying any crimes except for the west who deny crimes against the Serbs there.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Please quote Western government saying that no crimes were committed against the Serbs in Bosnia.
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Serbs have already acknowledged their part in Srebrenica but will not say it was genocide.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

Could not care less what Serbs will or won't say. The international community has already determined beyond reasonable doubt that is was genocide.
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Thhe whole world does NOT hold Serbia alone for evens in Srebrenica, unless you count the west as the whole world.
(Peggy, 7 July 2015 02:24)

That's true. The genocide in Srebrenica was committed by members of the VRS (according to the international community), not by Serbia. That's why I don't get why Serbia is making such a big fuss about it as if it were Serbia to have committed the genocide!

My dear Peggy, regardless of how you spin it, your narrative does not have a shred of logic. Hate has totally blocked your brain, which is why I'd again advice you consult a doctor because your posting are increasingly looking like the ravings of a madwoman...

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Roberto as usual is correct - and as usual tells us that a horribly wrong way.

Putin is the counterpart / mirror of Thaçi: a dumb, violent fool who is still smart enough to show or pretend to be dangerous.

I can't judge the quality (or "quality") of written / spoken Albanian of Thaçi - but everyone who happen to finish at least a middle / high 10 schoolyears in Russia can judge the "quality" of Russian "commanded" by Putin. It tells all.

The other question is that why British pulled out that thing now. Of course to make Russia veto (and every veto is a humiliation). Rightfully, they assume, China will abstain.
Why do they want Russia being humiliated now? Partly because of Ukraine, partly because of Middle East.

Nothing will be achieved of course, it's just a distraction.

Nothing good will be achieved either. The approval of Putin (exactly like approval of Thaçi) is based on their role in a conflict. If there is no conflict... no approval for either one.

Therefore - unfortunately - this will (again) cement Putin where it is.

Roberto is right that Putin belongs to the trash of the history. But the more Russia is challenged, the later he will land up there.

Ergo: Putin is the mirror of the "West" precisely like Thaçi is the mirror of the "East".

Out of these two the #1 I would like to get rid of is the Orbángutáng, but that's my priority.