Serbia officially requests Oric's extradition

In order for serbia to get Oric, Thaci, and Ante Gotovina serbia herself must face reality and stop living her fantasies. It is imperative that serbia turns over ALL war criminals to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.
(Guest, 22 June 2015 11:

What are you talking about? Serbia extradited absolutely anyone left since 2011. Mladic and Hadzic were last on the list. Whereas this terrorist scum Nasser Oric has been excused by both Serbs and his own people of committing war crimes. Where there's smoke, there's fire with this guy.

Meanwhile Gotovina gets convicted, and then verdict is reversed. Thaci doesn't even get indicted at all. The ICTY and Hague are a farce of a court, and the only thing they have made clear is that murdering in the Balkans is OK, if you are murdering Serbian civilians.

Strongly doubt any possibility of justice, but it would be great to see this son of a bitch be made an example of.

Every felon has to be condemned as strict as possible. Who can forgive such felony like digging
eyes and slaughtering people?
(xy, 22 June 2015 10:14)
What you say is true but if the ICTY found he was not guilty, he should not be tried in Serbia who has shown no remorse for their grueling and horrendous crimes against his people. If he cannot be tried in a neutral country, he should not be tried!
I am sure that any trial in Serbia will go like: 9:05 they read the indictment. 9:10 Judges find him guilty. Case over.

Every felon has to be condemned as strict as possible. Who can forgive such felony like digging
eyes and slaughtering people?

Serbia has been spoiled by Western Europe, double standards for serbia in her favor all the time. Tables have turned around the last 25 years or so. Europe is no longer doing what favors serbia only, and this is the result you get from serbian politicians.
In order for serbia to get Oric, Thaci, and Ante Gotovina serbia herself must face reality and stop living her fantasies. It is imperative that serbia turns over ALL war criminals to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.Bow, that's a fair deal for everyone, but serbia cannot continue seeking double standards for herself, and this is why they often humiliate their own country.

@ Hadzic was the last !

What about war criminals Mile Novakovic & Sinisa Martic-Silt. Serbia still has many criminals that the government is reluctant to arrest. How can Serbia enter the E.U when it continues to lie to its neighbours.

Serbia is playing with fire. Until now Serbia has been against extradition of kapetan Dragan from Australia to Croatia but wants Naser Oric. In the future many Serbs might be arrested in the West and Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo might ask for them to be extradited to their countries. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

At the risk of being cynical, let's put it this way: Oric's extradition will come as compensation for Serbia having to accept the text of Britain's resolution on Srebrenica which if it can't pass in the UN will be presented to the EP.

No resolution, no Oric.

It's why these one hit wonders from the 1990s are still kept around as bargaining chips.

They just formally released the warrant but some smart in Washington used it to put Serbia in the new confrontation position. If Oric is passed Serbia will be demonized in any case. Such is the price for the slave club membership.
(rote, 22 June 2015 15:46)
# Comment link

Have to love the mindset. Washington is responsible for him being arrested and possibly extradicted to Serbia just to demonize Serbs!!!
Washington is the one who arranged for the release of Seselj just to embarrass Serbia.
But yet everyday on here one of your group says the west(US) has the politicians of Serbia in their pockets.

Western European countries have shown themselves reluctant to extradite those either not indicted by the Hague or already found not guilty. People need to understand that the more they convict Oric or anyone else ahead of a trial the more likely it is that the country being asked to extradite will conclude that the person in question would not receive a fair trial. I think Ari is being slightly disingenuous when he says that Serbia extradited everyone on the Hague list as if this should attract praise............it took them many many years to do so and it was only when they wanted to move towards EU membership and were being pressurised, notably and ironically, by the Dutch that they handed over Mladic. I have no time for Oric and he should have been behind bars long since for numerous non war related criminal offences, but it should be borne in mind that unlike Messrs Mladic and Karadzic he handed himself in to the authorities. Ari will probably say that's because he knew that he would be released!

Think about it, Serbia has extradited every single one of those who were wanted by the hague so why do you think that he wouldn't get a fair trial? He will get a trial just like every other serbian citizen, yes he has a serbian citizenship after working as a bodyguard for Milosevic. You albanians, croats and muslims think that anyone that murdered and expelled serbs should be free but every serb sentenced right? Thats not how it works unfortunately for you, he will be extradited and punished. And he is a convicted war criminal already since he was sentenced to prison by the ICTY which you already forgot.

(Ari Gold, 22 June 2015 11:53) # Comment link

*accused. Auto-correct.

Are you
neutral observer?
(xy, 22 June 2015 14:54)
I have to admit, I am not. I am not Serbian nor Albanian nor Bosnian or Croatian. I am not from any of the Balkan states nor related to any. I am an American and at one time would have been a "neutral" observer, however, once I saw the Trnovo video, I cannot be when it comes to the actions around Srebrenica. I wish no ill will on any one in the Balkans today, but I do agree those guilty of war crimes should be punished fully, but I do not think that it is up to opposing sides to place their enemies on trial.
You and many on here claim bias and corruption at the ICTY but no one offers a better solution. Some call it a NATO court but it is comprised of judges and prosecutors from all over the world some countries very friendly with Serbia. It was created by the UNSC, ironically the same place that Serbs claim is the only ones capable of setting up a court for Kosovo. Have never understood that one.
You say that Bosnia and Serbia have an agreement on how to proceed on these cases, but Serbia has already said Oric cannot be tried in Bosnia per the agreement.
I do not support his trial in Serbia no more than I would support the trial of a Serb for war crimes by Albanians, or Croatians or Bosnian Muslims. Nor do I support the trial of any of them by their own ethnic group.

Dear \"think about it\",
The Court in the Hague as \"neutral\" were blind when having considered Serbian victims which
fel before horrible Srebrenica. All felons have to be
prosecuted! Between Bosnia and Serbia there is
the agriment how to prosecute the cases. Are you
neutral observer?

As we have said before, Oric was all that stood between the starving ppl of Srebrenica and surrounding villages, and Serbia's genocide machine.
(roberto, 22 June 2015 22:22)

It's nice to know that on top of insulting the head of the Simon Wiesenthal Center as you did a few days ago you now openly defend one of the biggest monsters of the Bosnian crisis - all because of an event in history you know nothing about in a county you know even less. A man who not only led Bosnian death squads on rampages that killed every thing alive in certain Serbian villages in Bosnia - women, children, animals, but a man who has evaded the justice you think you have some right to judge others for avoiding and hiding from.

Ever hear of Kravica? Bjelovac? You DO know there was more to Bosnia than Srebrenica right? You DO know how Srebrenica happened right?

We know we're all repetitive when we mock you roberto, and we know you're not going to change your autistic tune because you're incapable of thinking logically, but we feel it's necessary to call you out for the fraudulent hypocrite everyone with common sense knows you are every time you spew your views on this site. The fact you actually have to come to the defense of a warlord shows you have absolutely no decency whatsoever. Some people would just remain quiet. You actually believe you're some sort of respected journalist. Too bad nothing you write ever ends up published.

Has anyone ever taken you seriously?

“Serbia has officially requested the extradition of the former commander of the Muslim army”

I am afraid that the arrest (and what is worse an extradition) was the last thing Serbia could expect when they issued the warrant. They just formally released the warrant but some smart in Washington used it to put Serbia in the new confrontation position. If Oric is passed Serbia will be demonized in any case. Such is the price for the slave club membership.

@ARI

Alright, in order for all of you (former Yugoslavia) to move forward serbia is a key player here on both ends good neighborly relationship, or hostility. Serbia owes an apology to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. ARI, you can try and spin stories in any direction you want, but facts remain without a doubt that Serbia is the primary initiator among all conflicts, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. If serbia is sincerely willing to put the effort for the sake of her own future generations, not for EU, not because someone will make some $$$ secrelty, but because future serbian generations deserve to live and breathe without being pre-judged by others; about their older generations mistakes. Then, Croatia, bosnia, and Kosovo also ha e some soul searching to do, and find evety individual that has murdered after the war was officially over, to charge them and convict them for their crimes. Serbia is the one that can make it happen on both ends. They shall live happily ever after as neighbors.

roberto

You are not a bastion of objectivity.
You and Lenard are boring.

As we have said before, Oric was all that stood between the starving ppl of Srebrenica and surrounding villages, and Serbia's genocide machine. Nothing and no one else could or would stop them. Oric leaves, and the genocide proceeds. That was accomplished by Serbia, and they still see Oric as their #1 enemy.

After this we can guess that vucic will not be welcome at the genocide commemoration, "apology" or not...

(Daniel, 22 June 2015 22:54
Do you really believe that crap you are shoveling?? Of course I know you do after reading the many posts you have written. The sad thing is it is ALL crap.
Serbia extradicted every single one, after hiding the biggest for what 15 years. YOu extradicted Mladic and Karadzic and hadzic so you would have a chance to get into the EU and they were so old and ill probably will never spend time in an actual prison only at the Hague Hilton.
If you read both my posts I never said he was innocent and did not deserve to stand trial, that I do not know. I do know that he is not a convicted war criminal, once his case was overturned that erases any conviction.
I said that he should not be tried in Serbia nor his home country as I do not believe either could not be bias.
You all claim that the Hague is bias against Serbs but can you name a system that would be more fair???
As I said the ironic thing is all the Serbs that claim the ICTY is unjust to Serbs also claim that the very people who established that court are the only ones that can fairly establish the war crimes court for Kosovo.
Instead of saying You Albanians, Croats, and Muslims think that anyone who murdered and expelled Serbs etc... Read your own posts et al and note that you think any Serb has been unfairly convicted or for that matter wrongly accused.

Guest:

Serbs don't accept your narrative of the Civil Wars.

The narratives are one-sided and contrived. m They are anufactured by the West to achieve a political re-arrangement in the European SouthEast. And that master political narrative eventually became so "leaky" that it can't hold water, so fictions are created to make it hold.

These blunt little tools will continue to fail (as they have for 25 years).

Serbs are a hardy people. They'll just hunker down for 100 years if they have to. Make no mistake, they'll bitch and complain about it ad infinitum. But they'll hunker down and they won't give an inch.

You can bomb them again, bully them, blackmail them, trick them, play all the geo-political chess you want, but it won't change anything.

There is a reason the word "inat" was used by the Ottomans to describe their frustrating intransigence that sooner or later drives you throw up your hands in maddening exasperation.

Forget it. Serbs didn't start the wars. They were contrived in foreign capitals seeking a southern re-alignment.

The pen of a diplomat can be as viloent as the barrel of a gun.

Think about it, UNSC dosent have right ti set up tribunals, its out their jurisdiction! That court is set up by winners of wars 90s.
(RighteousBilly, 23 June 2015 07:49)
Maybe you should travel to New York and tell them what their jurisdiction is, I am sure they will listen to an expert!
Maybe you might first want to check the following site or go to the UNSC resolution 808 which DID establish the ICTY.

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/808(1993)

Not only did all 5 permanent members US, UK, France, Russia, and China vote yes to establish the tribunal, also the other 10 members voted unanimously yes which included some strong Serbian supporters: Brazil, Spain, Venezuela, Pakistan, Morroco, Cape Verde, Djibouti, Hungary, Japan, New Zealand.

A suggestion is to wait until you clear your head of the morning and drink a full cup of coffee before becoming a computer authority.

“release of Seselj just to embarrass Serbia”

I don’t think that Washington is the Almighty but things like release of Voislav and arrest of Naser most likely had been sanctioned by the US SD. Because it added them tools for twisting Serbia’s hands off also helping the US agents of influence inside the government. So the new headache of this government could quite be initiated by the SD. ( I love this Nazi abbreviation for the State Dept.). What I mean is that all Balkan states are manipulated from outside. Those shadow players are not interested in the reconciliation on the peninsula. So they provoke peoples to aggravate the situation. Otherwise US role as well as their NATO vassals’ will fall to zero level. People here should not forget the old rule that if you dig a grave for someone best if you dig two – one for him and one for yourself. I also believe that the Spanish experience of the postwar reconciliation is the best way for the Balkans. They simply forgot about their past and started to live “desde el principio”.

Daniel: Do you think about what you write before doing so? You ask why people think that Oric won't receive a fair trial and then pre-judge the outcome by saying he will be punished, exactly the sort of attitude that leads people to the aforementioned conclusion. I suspect that Switzerland will follow the UK and Austria in deciding not to extradite. Ganic and Divjak were released and unlike Oric had not been through a trial in the Hague.....don't get your hopes up.

Think about it, UNSC dosent have right ti set up tribunals, its out their jurisdiction! That court is set up by winners of wars 90s.

Think about it, maybe you should listen more to experts such as Kosta Cavoski professor of Law Faculty in University of Belgrade who wrote few books about illegal "kangaroo court". So that comes from someone who is expert and who dosent get his education from internet as you are, but who invested life into his education. He even testified in front of very Hague tribunal and it was visible that even those judges enjoyed in learning from him. He really gave them lesson for free listening him, prosecutor was ridicules and I had to laugh how pathetic she was comparing to him as I said even judges liked to hear from him. I can tell you something about International Public Law ,from my studies, considering "Kosovo independence":
For a country to be recognized as independent three conditions have to be met cumulatively:
1. That country has to have territory
2. That country has to have population
3. That country has to have central power on that territory
North of Kosovo failed in condition number. . .3! North Kosovo wasnt part of Pristina occupation forces untill recently and Serbs were majority there so you had no right to force Serbs to be part of so-called independent Kosovo that was created on genocide and ethnic cleansing of non-albanians. Btw, what school you have?

Think about it, Argumentum ad hominem never works it just shows your weakness. You think just because someone is serbian that his arguments about that "kangaroo court" are not valid, regardless of him being an expert, then think again! Btw, I dont think you should meddle in things that you dont know or maybe you are expert on everything?

(RighteousBilly, 25 June 2015" maybe you should listen more to experts such as Kosta Cavoski professor of Law Faculty in University of Belgrade who wrote few books about illegal "kangaroo court". So that comes from someone who is expert and who dosent get his education from internet as you are, but who invested life into his education"

First I would not trust the expertise of anyone Serbian on their views of the Hague, sorry but there is too much bias.
Second, don't know what that has to do with whether or not the UNSC has the jurisdiction to set up tribunals.
Third, as far as my education, after reading your posts, I am quite confident it is far greater than yours!
I could tell you I have a PhD and you would not know the difference.

Serbia has been spoiled by Western Europe, double standards for serbia in her favor all the time. Tables have turned around the last 25 years or so. Europe is no longer doing what favors serbia only, and this is the result you get from serbian politicians.
In order for serbia to get Oric, Thaci, and Ante Gotovina serbia herself must face reality and stop living her fantasies. It is imperative that serbia turns over ALL war criminals to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.Bow, that's a fair deal for everyone, but serbia cannot continue seeking double standards for herself, and this is why they often humiliate their own country.

@ Hadzic was the last !

What about war criminals Mile Novakovic & Sinisa Martic-Silt. Serbia still has many criminals that the government is reluctant to arrest. How can Serbia enter the E.U when it continues to lie to its neighbours.

Every felon has to be condemned as strict as possible. Who can forgive such felony like digging
eyes and slaughtering people?
(xy, 22 June 2015 10:14)
What you say is true but if the ICTY found he was not guilty, he should not be tried in Serbia who has shown no remorse for their grueling and horrendous crimes against his people. If he cannot be tried in a neutral country, he should not be tried!
I am sure that any trial in Serbia will go like: 9:05 they read the indictment. 9:10 Judges find him guilty. Case over.

In order for serbia to get Oric, Thaci, and Ante Gotovina serbia herself must face reality and stop living her fantasies. It is imperative that serbia turns over ALL war criminals to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.
(Guest, 22 June 2015 11:

What are you talking about? Serbia extradited absolutely anyone left since 2011. Mladic and Hadzic were last on the list. Whereas this terrorist scum Nasser Oric has been excused by both Serbs and his own people of committing war crimes. Where there's smoke, there's fire with this guy.

Meanwhile Gotovina gets convicted, and then verdict is reversed. Thaci doesn't even get indicted at all. The ICTY and Hague are a farce of a court, and the only thing they have made clear is that murdering in the Balkans is OK, if you are murdering Serbian civilians.

Strongly doubt any possibility of justice, but it would be great to see this son of a bitch be made an example of.

As we have said before, Oric was all that stood between the starving ppl of Srebrenica and surrounding villages, and Serbia's genocide machine. Nothing and no one else could or would stop them. Oric leaves, and the genocide proceeds. That was accomplished by Serbia, and they still see Oric as their #1 enemy.

After this we can guess that vucic will not be welcome at the genocide commemoration, "apology" or not...

“Serbia has officially requested the extradition of the former commander of the Muslim army”

I am afraid that the arrest (and what is worse an extradition) was the last thing Serbia could expect when they issued the warrant. They just formally released the warrant but some smart in Washington used it to put Serbia in the new confrontation position. If Oric is passed Serbia will be demonized in any case. Such is the price for the slave club membership.

(Ari Gold, 22 June 2015 11:53) # Comment link

*accused. Auto-correct.

Think about it, Serbia has extradited every single one of those who were wanted by the hague so why do you think that he wouldn't get a fair trial? He will get a trial just like every other serbian citizen, yes he has a serbian citizenship after working as a bodyguard for Milosevic. You albanians, croats and muslims think that anyone that murdered and expelled serbs should be free but every serb sentenced right? Thats not how it works unfortunately for you, he will be extradited and punished. And he is a convicted war criminal already since he was sentenced to prison by the ICTY which you already forgot.

Western European countries have shown themselves reluctant to extradite those either not indicted by the Hague or already found not guilty. People need to understand that the more they convict Oric or anyone else ahead of a trial the more likely it is that the country being asked to extradite will conclude that the person in question would not receive a fair trial. I think Ari is being slightly disingenuous when he says that Serbia extradited everyone on the Hague list as if this should attract praise............it took them many many years to do so and it was only when they wanted to move towards EU membership and were being pressurised, notably and ironically, by the Dutch that they handed over Mladic. I have no time for Oric and he should have been behind bars long since for numerous non war related criminal offences, but it should be borne in mind that unlike Messrs Mladic and Karadzic he handed himself in to the authorities. Ari will probably say that's because he knew that he would be released!

Serbia is playing with fire. Until now Serbia has been against extradition of kapetan Dragan from Australia to Croatia but wants Naser Oric. In the future many Serbs might be arrested in the West and Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo might ask for them to be extradited to their countries. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

@ARI

Alright, in order for all of you (former Yugoslavia) to move forward serbia is a key player here on both ends good neighborly relationship, or hostility. Serbia owes an apology to Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. ARI, you can try and spin stories in any direction you want, but facts remain without a doubt that Serbia is the primary initiator among all conflicts, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. If serbia is sincerely willing to put the effort for the sake of her own future generations, not for EU, not because someone will make some $$$ secrelty, but because future serbian generations deserve to live and breathe without being pre-judged by others; about their older generations mistakes. Then, Croatia, bosnia, and Kosovo also ha e some soul searching to do, and find evety individual that has murdered after the war was officially over, to charge them and convict them for their crimes. Serbia is the one that can make it happen on both ends. They shall live happily ever after as neighbors.

Every felon has to be condemned as strict as possible. Who can forgive such felony like digging
eyes and slaughtering people?

As we have said before, Oric was all that stood between the starving ppl of Srebrenica and surrounding villages, and Serbia's genocide machine.
(roberto, 22 June 2015 22:22)

It's nice to know that on top of insulting the head of the Simon Wiesenthal Center as you did a few days ago you now openly defend one of the biggest monsters of the Bosnian crisis - all because of an event in history you know nothing about in a county you know even less. A man who not only led Bosnian death squads on rampages that killed every thing alive in certain Serbian villages in Bosnia - women, children, animals, but a man who has evaded the justice you think you have some right to judge others for avoiding and hiding from.

Ever hear of Kravica? Bjelovac? You DO know there was more to Bosnia than Srebrenica right? You DO know how Srebrenica happened right?

We know we're all repetitive when we mock you roberto, and we know you're not going to change your autistic tune because you're incapable of thinking logically, but we feel it's necessary to call you out for the fraudulent hypocrite everyone with common sense knows you are every time you spew your views on this site. The fact you actually have to come to the defense of a warlord shows you have absolutely no decency whatsoever. Some people would just remain quiet. You actually believe you're some sort of respected journalist. Too bad nothing you write ever ends up published.

Has anyone ever taken you seriously?

Guest:

Serbs don't accept your narrative of the Civil Wars.

The narratives are one-sided and contrived. m They are anufactured by the West to achieve a political re-arrangement in the European SouthEast. And that master political narrative eventually became so "leaky" that it can't hold water, so fictions are created to make it hold.

These blunt little tools will continue to fail (as they have for 25 years).

Serbs are a hardy people. They'll just hunker down for 100 years if they have to. Make no mistake, they'll bitch and complain about it ad infinitum. But they'll hunker down and they won't give an inch.

You can bomb them again, bully them, blackmail them, trick them, play all the geo-political chess you want, but it won't change anything.

There is a reason the word "inat" was used by the Ottomans to describe their frustrating intransigence that sooner or later drives you throw up your hands in maddening exasperation.

Forget it. Serbs didn't start the wars. They were contrived in foreign capitals seeking a southern re-alignment.

The pen of a diplomat can be as viloent as the barrel of a gun.

“release of Seselj just to embarrass Serbia”

I don’t think that Washington is the Almighty but things like release of Voislav and arrest of Naser most likely had been sanctioned by the US SD. Because it added them tools for twisting Serbia’s hands off also helping the US agents of influence inside the government. So the new headache of this government could quite be initiated by the SD. ( I love this Nazi abbreviation for the State Dept.). What I mean is that all Balkan states are manipulated from outside. Those shadow players are not interested in the reconciliation on the peninsula. So they provoke peoples to aggravate the situation. Otherwise US role as well as their NATO vassals’ will fall to zero level. People here should not forget the old rule that if you dig a grave for someone best if you dig two – one for him and one for yourself. I also believe that the Spanish experience of the postwar reconciliation is the best way for the Balkans. They simply forgot about their past and started to live “desde el principio”.

Dear \"think about it\",
The Court in the Hague as \"neutral\" were blind when having considered Serbian victims which
fel before horrible Srebrenica. All felons have to be
prosecuted! Between Bosnia and Serbia there is
the agriment how to prosecute the cases. Are you
neutral observer?

At the risk of being cynical, let's put it this way: Oric's extradition will come as compensation for Serbia having to accept the text of Britain's resolution on Srebrenica which if it can't pass in the UN will be presented to the EP.

No resolution, no Oric.

It's why these one hit wonders from the 1990s are still kept around as bargaining chips.

Are you
neutral observer?
(xy, 22 June 2015 14:54)
I have to admit, I am not. I am not Serbian nor Albanian nor Bosnian or Croatian. I am not from any of the Balkan states nor related to any. I am an American and at one time would have been a "neutral" observer, however, once I saw the Trnovo video, I cannot be when it comes to the actions around Srebrenica. I wish no ill will on any one in the Balkans today, but I do agree those guilty of war crimes should be punished fully, but I do not think that it is up to opposing sides to place their enemies on trial.
You and many on here claim bias and corruption at the ICTY but no one offers a better solution. Some call it a NATO court but it is comprised of judges and prosecutors from all over the world some countries very friendly with Serbia. It was created by the UNSC, ironically the same place that Serbs claim is the only ones capable of setting up a court for Kosovo. Have never understood that one.
You say that Bosnia and Serbia have an agreement on how to proceed on these cases, but Serbia has already said Oric cannot be tried in Bosnia per the agreement.
I do not support his trial in Serbia no more than I would support the trial of a Serb for war crimes by Albanians, or Croatians or Bosnian Muslims. Nor do I support the trial of any of them by their own ethnic group.

(Daniel, 22 June 2015 22:54
Do you really believe that crap you are shoveling?? Of course I know you do after reading the many posts you have written. The sad thing is it is ALL crap.
Serbia extradicted every single one, after hiding the biggest for what 15 years. YOu extradicted Mladic and Karadzic and hadzic so you would have a chance to get into the EU and they were so old and ill probably will never spend time in an actual prison only at the Hague Hilton.
If you read both my posts I never said he was innocent and did not deserve to stand trial, that I do not know. I do know that he is not a convicted war criminal, once his case was overturned that erases any conviction.
I said that he should not be tried in Serbia nor his home country as I do not believe either could not be bias.
You all claim that the Hague is bias against Serbs but can you name a system that would be more fair???
As I said the ironic thing is all the Serbs that claim the ICTY is unjust to Serbs also claim that the very people who established that court are the only ones that can fairly establish the war crimes court for Kosovo.
Instead of saying You Albanians, Croats, and Muslims think that anyone who murdered and expelled Serbs etc... Read your own posts et al and note that you think any Serb has been unfairly convicted or for that matter wrongly accused.

roberto

You are not a bastion of objectivity.
You and Lenard are boring.

(RighteousBilly, 25 June 2015" maybe you should listen more to experts such as Kosta Cavoski professor of Law Faculty in University of Belgrade who wrote few books about illegal "kangaroo court". So that comes from someone who is expert and who dosent get his education from internet as you are, but who invested life into his education"

First I would not trust the expertise of anyone Serbian on their views of the Hague, sorry but there is too much bias.
Second, don't know what that has to do with whether or not the UNSC has the jurisdiction to set up tribunals.
Third, as far as my education, after reading your posts, I am quite confident it is far greater than yours!
I could tell you I have a PhD and you would not know the difference.

Think about it, UNSC dosent have right ti set up tribunals, its out their jurisdiction! That court is set up by winners of wars 90s.
(RighteousBilly, 23 June 2015 07:49)
Maybe you should travel to New York and tell them what their jurisdiction is, I am sure they will listen to an expert!
Maybe you might first want to check the following site or go to the UNSC resolution 808 which DID establish the ICTY.

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/808(1993)

Not only did all 5 permanent members US, UK, France, Russia, and China vote yes to establish the tribunal, also the other 10 members voted unanimously yes which included some strong Serbian supporters: Brazil, Spain, Venezuela, Pakistan, Morroco, Cape Verde, Djibouti, Hungary, Japan, New Zealand.

A suggestion is to wait until you clear your head of the morning and drink a full cup of coffee before becoming a computer authority.

They just formally released the warrant but some smart in Washington used it to put Serbia in the new confrontation position. If Oric is passed Serbia will be demonized in any case. Such is the price for the slave club membership.
(rote, 22 June 2015 15:46)
# Comment link

Have to love the mindset. Washington is responsible for him being arrested and possibly extradicted to Serbia just to demonize Serbs!!!
Washington is the one who arranged for the release of Seselj just to embarrass Serbia.
But yet everyday on here one of your group says the west(US) has the politicians of Serbia in their pockets.

Daniel: Do you think about what you write before doing so? You ask why people think that Oric won't receive a fair trial and then pre-judge the outcome by saying he will be punished, exactly the sort of attitude that leads people to the aforementioned conclusion. I suspect that Switzerland will follow the UK and Austria in deciding not to extradite. Ganic and Divjak were released and unlike Oric had not been through a trial in the Hague.....don't get your hopes up.

Think about it, UNSC dosent have right ti set up tribunals, its out their jurisdiction! That court is set up by winners of wars 90s.

Think about it, maybe you should listen more to experts such as Kosta Cavoski professor of Law Faculty in University of Belgrade who wrote few books about illegal "kangaroo court". So that comes from someone who is expert and who dosent get his education from internet as you are, but who invested life into his education. He even testified in front of very Hague tribunal and it was visible that even those judges enjoyed in learning from him. He really gave them lesson for free listening him, prosecutor was ridicules and I had to laugh how pathetic she was comparing to him as I said even judges liked to hear from him. I can tell you something about International Public Law ,from my studies, considering "Kosovo independence":
For a country to be recognized as independent three conditions have to be met cumulatively:
1. That country has to have territory
2. That country has to have population
3. That country has to have central power on that territory
North of Kosovo failed in condition number. . .3! North Kosovo wasnt part of Pristina occupation forces untill recently and Serbs were majority there so you had no right to force Serbs to be part of so-called independent Kosovo that was created on genocide and ethnic cleansing of non-albanians. Btw, what school you have?

Think about it, Argumentum ad hominem never works it just shows your weakness. You think just because someone is serbian that his arguments about that "kangaroo court" are not valid, regardless of him being an expert, then think again! Btw, I dont think you should meddle in things that you dont know or maybe you are expert on everything?