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Monday, 08.06.2015.

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Russia criticizes Croatia for intolerance toward Serbs

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has mentioned intolerance toward Serbs in Croatia in its document dedicated to neo-Nazism.

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j

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".
(Italian Serbophile, 8 June 2015 20:46)

I'd be offended if the likes of Da Vinci said this. However a people that kept electing that degenerate and mafia padrino, Berlusconi, are the last ones who should be talking about illuminism. The very fact that that piece of $h!t still walks freely after having sex with minors while a prime minister says a lot about century your folks are living.

rote

pre 8 godina

To b92 :

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE !

To all the rest :

One thing surprised me today. I looked through my own comments and found out that some of you gave me your “likes”. It’s a big progress when we stop to stick to the old dogmas ! Because there are thousands of questions the historians cannot answer. They are a caste with their own professional interests. Because if they surrender they will have to refuse from their own dissertations, monographies, grants, salaries, respect ect. So it’s much easier to call someone an insane. Isn’t it strange that 80-90% of the European happlogroups are composed of two sister R1a and R1b ? How came that the Basks in Spain and France have the same R1b happlogroup as their neighbors and quite a different language ? How came that the European Qatars (Bulgar Bogomils) and a small Arab state have the same name ? Why all the international treaties of the Ottomans in 17-20 centuries were written in Greek language ? How came that after the Kosovo Battle both sides flew from the region without collecting the harvest ? Why on Earth the most powerful man on the Earth died in July of 1389 and the burial service for him was held not by his God Father Sergy Radonezhsky or at least the Russian Patriarch but by a low ranking Archbishop of Trebizond ? Why the most important part of Istanbul was called Halk-e-Don (”people from Don”) ? How came that all Turkish old mosques are built like churches and positioned towards the East ?

ect.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Leonard you might need those weapons to defend against Serbia.
Never forget Krajina.
Europe benefits with a generap serb population decrease😜

Lenard

pre 8 godina

factually, 10 June 2015 00:25) Well yes to most of the below and http://croatia.eu/article.php?id=37&lang=2 so much more. We can build nuclear weapons but that's totally criminally insane to have weapons of mass destruction to wipe out life on the planet.

rote

pre 8 godina

RighteousBilly

Moscow metro is the only metro where they give you any university diploma while history is the only “science” that does not develop. They only seek for new “proofs” of their old dogmas. Like the Trojan gold of Heinrich Schliemann that was first made for him, then buried by him and finally found by himself. Every new Tsar/king/Khan adopted history for his needs because history as it gave them state power. So it was falsified for centuries especially when power was not passed from father to son. I already said that the Ottomans were different in different times. But current history offers us only one version of the bad guys. Yes they were as such but only since late 18 century. And they had to become bad guys after the capitol of their empire (Moscow) was occupied by their German rivals (Romanovs) in 1613. So we believe in history that Scaliger/Petavuis wrote for us while there’s no enough proof that at least Joseph Scaliger ever existed. His second name (“scale maker”) is also suspicious for a man who wrote the news scale of chronology. Many scientists like Isaak Newton laughed at him and wrote books about the fake chronology. But still we are told that Columbus or Vespucci found America, that Serbs fought the Turks, that Russians were backward peasants, that Islam appeared in 622, that Macedonsky was a Greek, that Arabs conquered Middle East ect. So we all are prisoners of some illusions while this Albanian Muzaka is just one of us.

rote

pre 8 godina

LEONARD

“criminal despots Mongols, Tatars”

How can a man who knows about Mauro Orbini write such things ? Mongolo-Tatars were first mentioned in 1653 in the new Romanov’s history written by the Schlotzer and Miller who coordinated parallel falsifications in Europe. Here the job was done by Scaliger and Petavius with great support of the Dutch Dominicans and Vatican Jesuit Orders. For your information Mongols left us not a single document or an artifact proving that this backward tribe ever left their territory in Asia. Moreover all their names are of Tatar/turk or Russian origin and they fail to find their Kara-Korum capital. In fact Genghis Khan and his younger brother Batu Khan (established Vatican) were Georgy Danilovich (St.George) and Ivan Danilovich (Caliph) who in 1318-1329 colonized 100% of Europe and thus ended the Crusaders’ Wars also known as Trojan or Goth Wars. Next 250-300 years Europe was a colony of the Horde while Croats, Serbs and all other Balkan peoples were part of the Horde. Until in 1613 German governors of the Horde(Goth-Alanians from Crimea) succeeded to bring Romanovs to the power inside the White Horde as the main of the Hordes. But all other hordes like Nogaiskaya (Ukraine, Turkey, Middle East, Balkans), Independent Horde (Central Asia, India, Iran), Pegaya (Far East of Russia, Korea) , Kitaiskaya (North of China, Japan), Alaska (Canada, USA), Blue (Crimea, South Ukraine, Caucasus), Great Tartaria (Siberia), Meshika (Mexico) refused to obey.

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosova

I do not trust the BS we are told. For instance biographies of M. Servantes and W. Shakespeare have very much suspicious details in common. Both died the same day of April 23 in 1616. Both left no children to be exact they had no boys while two daughters of W. Shakespeare bore no one while illegal daughter of M. Servantes disappeared. Both wrote their books in Smuta Time when the Great Horde was in disaster. It’s a big question if the two ever existed and who wrote their books for them. Their biographies are full of empty pages. Say we are offered to believe that Servantes was a marine corps with 1 hand only ! Please explain how could he charge or fire a 15 kg musket with one hand ? So Pussy if you look at the events under such an angle you too will find a lot of strange things. You will doubt it very much that Albanians (the whites) today and Albanians 500 years ago are the same people. You will wonder why Britain is called Misty Albion. You will question why the history of the Ottomans was first written for the Sultan only in 1600 besides in Persian language by a ... Kurd ? Why the Sultans called themselves Shah-in-Shahs ? You will be surprised that for 600 years as if “slave” Yanichars and Mamelukes ruled the Empire. That in 17-18 centuries 17 out of 21 Pashas were Caucasians and almost none of the spoke “turk” language. That Arabs were not let into Mecca and Medina before 19 century. ect.ect.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

So, Teodor Muzaka 1389 do you have any source that supports your claims that there was any Albanian who fought on serbian side in the battle of Kosovo 1389? Any source that is not modern albanian forgery?
I had read a lot about that battle and this is the best article about it:
"The Battle of Kosovo: Early Reports of Victory and Defeat"
Now, MuSaka, I expect your answer! I want to hear you.

royals

pre 8 godina

@Teodor
The only fighting your lot did in 1389 was amongst each other about who stole who's goats. Once a goat herder always a goat herder.
Maybe all those goat herders exiting Kosovo can immigrate to that beautiful place called Croatia.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.
(factually, 10 June 2015 00:25)
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You nailed it.

factually

pre 8 godina

Lenard,

Your zeal really blinds you and makes ignorant. In fact your voice is one of the least entertaining here.

The Russian nation is a great nation that has reached the highest achievements of humanity
They are not Peasants, and it would be fairly easy to label your own stock as such.

Did your people ever write a great novel(s) like the Russians?
Go to Outer Space?
Create nuclear weapons?
Create cures and drugs that heal and extend human life?
Great paintings?
A symphony perhaps?
Create and launch a satellite?
Airplanes?
Drill for your own oil and distribute it across the world?
Establish a national, independent and autonomous Church?
On the right side of two world wars?
Establish your own language?
Have an independent country for more than 1,000 years?
How about Manufacture motor scooters?

Peasants dont do the things i listed above.
You guys dont even have your language but share it with us.
And dont give me that King Tvrtko claptrap from the 10th century that lasted all of 61 years.

Hooray, you are a great Croat!
Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.

The Count of Kosova and the Squatting Hordes.

pre 8 godina

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Ian Grozny with the Grozny Yellow Teeth Hordes.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka

“fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo”

I do not doubt that your ancestors fought in the battle of 1389. Current history expose it as a conflict of the Turks and the Serbs. It’s lie because before the 17 century there were no nations as we understand them today. Folks from Balkans seized “Turkey” and it started after the Kosovo Battle and ended in 1453. soon they were back to Europe.

Ataturk invited scientists from Tatarstan and Bashkortostan to reform the Turkish language. Before the 20 century all “turk” speaking peoples in Caucasus and Asia still called themselves as Tatars while Greek and Persian were official languages of the Ottomans. Cities of Tir, Tirana, Tiraspol, Tur in Belarussia, Turan in Asia have the same basis as Turks. Because of the Balkan peoples this country got such a name. As well as the capitol of Istanbul = Stan Bulgar. Sound “i” is always added before “st” like ISTIQLAL (independence), ISTEFADA (use).

Sounds ridiculous but "Turks" were composed of the Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgars, Albanians, Alans, Cherkess, Russians ect. They ruled the Empire before 19 century! Now they are called KURDS whose happlogroups in Turkey they are similar to that of the Serbs, Macedonians ect. Kurds in Iraq and Syria are closer to the Greeks, Albanians, Jews while in Iran - to Caucasians and Russians. And their languages are quite different. Those were people of the Great Horde so they were called Kurde people = Horde people.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02)


Poor simple rote:
Your outrageous rantings remove any doubt concerning your lack of sanity and intelligence.
It is simply impossible for you to tell the truth!

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Teodor Muzaka never mind the Russians. They have always been under criminal despots Mongols, Tatars, Czars, Communist etc. Now under a double whammy despot communist Putin KGB infested Kremlin. They like to pretend and live under delusions of grander like their crazy cousins the Serbs. Only peasant slaves with very active delusional sick imaginations. Just maybe one day they will realize their is fantasy and reality. Until then I would not hold my breath they don't know any better as life passes them by. As the centuries pass and they wallow in their own perpetual generating so sweet smelling BS to them.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Dear rote,
You should tell this "findings" to your brothers in Serbia.
Tell them that they fought against each other and not against ottomans.
Tell them there is no reason to celebrate June 28,1389.
Tell them...

As for my nick name, I am so proud to be an decent of Muzaka family,one of the most influential Albanian family.

I just put this nick name because Serbs need constant to be remind that Albanians under the command of Teodor Muzaka fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo on June,28,1389.

You tell them that Serbs,Albanians and their allies didn't fight ottomans but they fought each other...

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28

Personally, who cares. Your filter is so warped.
You are the Canadian Serb troll who hates living in Serbia. Your skewed opinions are not factually based and therefore, not relevant, regardless of the time you've been miserable living in the Balkans.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka 1389

“You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others”

I am not sure about it because when dogs bark someone have to calm them down.

P.S. About the date in your nickname I also have to disappoint you because it wasn’t a battle against the Turks. They simply were not formed yet. A Bulgarian historian Jordan Tonev investigated 26 old maps edited before 1700 and on none of them (including that of Piri Reis) neither Turkey nor the Ottomans or the Osmans were even mentioned. Instead on the “Turkish” territory there was always written NATOL not even ANATOL. So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?

Gazster

pre 8 godina

Croatia dosent care what Russia thinks about anything ,serbia is desperate for EU money it will just play ball ,Croatia diplomatically is a very loyal and strongly supported Western ally it dosent care about Russian whingeing.aptain dragan will get a fair trial in the cells.

ida

pre 8 godina

Where's Lenard? A Croatian plane crashed yesterday after its engine failed and I just want to tell him how inept Croatian plane mechanics are like he always says after there's an incident with Serb planes:
Two killed in plane crash in northeastern Croatia
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6574155/2015/06/07/two-killed-plane-crash-northeastern-croatia

Azir

pre 8 godina

Navi just because you and your people are envious of Croatia does not make them "racist".

Croatia is a member of NATO and the EU.

Serbs ,I am sure are very fond if the 78 days of outstanding aerial deposits over their country and the EU is what you have to beg Croatia to NOT veto if you qualify and recognize Kosova.

Greater Serbia Terror Campaign in Slovenia,Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosova is WHAT RACISM IS,

Peggy

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28
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I guess you see what you want to see. Do you see Serbs vandalizing signs in Latin?
Are Serbs preventing Croats to live in Serbia? Are Serbs not allowing Croats their property rights? How many Croats are suffering in Serbia and unable to have rights?
Now answer those questions first before you imply that there is more discrimination against Croats than Serbs anywhere.
Taking all this into considerations I don't blame Serbs from expressing their anger if they are. It's far better than discrimination Serbs are forced to live under in Croatia.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2015 00:15)


Not at all, Ari. Hate is hate. I'm "ustasa" now? ok. Strange little world you live in.

Please remember that I've spent more time in the balkans than you've been legally an adult (if, in fact, you are an adult. your propensity for name-calling calls that into question). So, it's reality vs. your strange fantasy-constructs.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Not sure why your name is "Partizan" when you sound more like an Ustasha monkey. You've committed genocide against the Serb population of occupied Krajina several times in the last century, and even the last few remaining Serbs obviously piss you off so much. Just like your savage KLA cousins.

Nothing makes me feel great inside knowing how much hate you have for my people. I wear it with pride. Here in America, Draza Mihailovic has statues honoring his sacrifice to the Allied Powers. Princip was a hero. Our people were liberators, your leaders were puppets. That will always be the source of your inferiority complex towards Serbs.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.
(красная капелла, 8 June 2015 20:43)....

Comparing Albanian ordinary criminals with Russian mafia, is like comparing Somalia and USA for standard living.

You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others ,because you are supplying Europe with prostitutes,crimes and drugs.
Albanian criminals are novice as compare to Russian professors.

And yes Albania is not part of Golden Billion, but our living standards are higher that Russia.
I have know Albanian-Russians who went to Russia after 1990 and now all of them are back to Albania.
And stay away from Balkans!

facts

pre 8 godina

just because russia said it doesnt mean its not true.
of course its true.
you are merely practicing a good defense by going on the offense.

the topic on the table is that croatians are intolerant of serbs.

and this is of course true.
as long as serbs are 8m, and they 4m..... its a problem for them.

heres another fact.
in serbia there live a lot ot croatians... albanians too.
but not so many serbs arre living in those two places.
in fact they areethnically pure.
why?

anyone who avoids answering this question by bringing up side issues is being juvenile and disengenuous.

of course they are intolerant of serbs.
they always were and tried to exterminate them in 1941-45 underorders of adolph hitler.
it has also been shown that a virulent strain of this particular racism exists in popular culture of croatia even today.
you can certainly bring up milosevic, but he tudjman was no better.

delon

pre 8 godina

@ Rrote
From Russia with lie,

At list Albanians are being honest and have chosen openly there friends and WEST,right or wrong. Unlike your puppet SRPS that are spineless and when they are in Russia say we are EAST, when they are in Bruxelles they say we are WEST, and when in Beligrad they say we are neutral, translated, spineless cowards.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28)

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.

Avni

pre 8 godina

Russians are crazy like Serbs. Russia is saying this while minorities in Russia are killed daily. Even Tartars in recently occupied Crimea are being persecuted.

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
http://www.unian.info/politics/1032330-turkey-putin-has-not-fulfilled-one-promise-given-to-crimean-tatars.html

Navi

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.
(Azir, 8 June 2015 22:22)

That still doesn't make Croats not be racist. Russia is saying the same thing any Norwegian, New Zealander, or American would say about racism and Nazism in Croatia. Even SS soldiers were disgusted by what the Ustasha did.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
[link]
(Avni, 8 June 2015 23:08)

You criticize Russia's stance by using statements from Turkey? You're trying to make a point, not undermine your argument.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.

Has this ignorant individual ever heard of Ukraine?

How's about Chechnya?

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
(Teoror Muzaka 1389, 8 June 2015 17:21)

So you mean that Albanians are a part of the Golden Billion ? Don’t you think that with your culture your mentality and your level of life standards it’s an exaggeration to say so ? Do you think that sucking the West already means being part of the West ? Do you really believe that sexual partners are always equal ? I would rather use some other comparison for you , say a condom. Is it what you offer to the Serbs ? And who told you there will be peace on Balkans this century ? I am afraid with lackeys like Albanians soon it will be a problem to find a quiet place on this beautiful planet. To say nothing of the Balkans . Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Just out of curiosity but if Russia is in the position to criticize Croatia for its mistreatment or alleged mistreatment of ethnic Serbs would many regard it as justifiable if Germany and or Great Britain,United States and I suppose even if my country as well criticized Serbia if it were maltreating it's ethnic Croatian community? If relevant but from what I researched Croats (in this case the Ustashas) had a brutal streak to them during 2nd World War so much so that even their Nazi allies were supposedly shocked at the brutality of the Ustashas.

Teoror Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Russia wants to continue to use the Serbs as their pawns in Balkans, for their dirty works.
It was the only government who was upset that Rama and Vucic didn't have any problems when they met in Tirana.
Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
Only then will be peace and prosperity in Balkans.
The ball is the Serbian court.

its time

pre 8 godina

its time for the Serbs to get full autonomy in krajina and all Serbs to return......with the backing of the new world the BRICS......Russia and china to lead.......

Non-Partisan

pre 8 godina

Hey Partizan you are a hapless racist. How about this for some historical fact, Ukraine and darling Croatia supplied Hitler ,that nasty Nazi, with as many troops as they could muster to murder and pillage across their respective territories and beyond. Surely you remember him or have at least heard of him. The Serbs were and are an asset to Croatia ie. Tesla just to name one you might know but there are many millions not so famous. You my friend are a sad excuse for humanity and Russia is right to condemn your ilk.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Intolorance? Satan and the Roman Catholic Empire? Hitler the Devils servent? Croatia and Hitler born about the same time about a century ago! Before the birth of Croatia and Hitler, Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavs in the Balkans surviving all hard times! Then came Croatia and Hitler under the leadership of the Roman Catholic Empire and full blessing of the Vatican! So lets just imagine that every Serbian alive today just drop over and die, no more Serbian people left alive in the world? Peace and prosperity in the Balkans? All you enemies of Serbia out there who are much smarter than stupid me, think about this and tell me how beautiful Europe would become? How would Romania, Bulgaria and Greece feel about this. in one moment they would be sharing the frontline border with Satan! So Serbia the ancient buffer zone of Islam for the Roman Catholic Empire. So with out Serbia no buffer zone for the Roman Catholic Empire, direct contact with Islam! You see just recently when mass exodus from Islam try to cross into the Roman Catholic Empire Heaven how quickly it became a major concern to the Vatican! Serbia the Pitt Bull dogs in the Balkans for the not so Holy Roman Catholic Empire? USA, England and Germany created so much instability in the Balkans since the 1990's, a great threat to Europian National Security and World Stability and now what will Russia do to correct the problem? You see what goes around will eventually come around! God Bless Russia and Czar Vlade!!!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

"This document identifies Slavonia, northern Dalmatia, and western Srem as areas of Croatia with particularly strong nationalism."

Naturally. Three of the most impoverished and neglected areas of Croatia filled with people promised a warm meal and a juice box by the local Croatian patriotic parties if they amass in the public square and protest against infringements against Faith, Fatherland, and Family. Add to this the persistent narratives even from HDZ that the Blessed Domovina is under attack from Serbs, Homosexuals, and Communists, and you have a recipe to create the perfect army of imbeciles, and worse, a whole generation of children grown up with this toxic rhetoric, ready to prove on a daily basis that the EU's newest member is chock full of people with patriotism for a country that couldn't care less about them and hatred for an ethnic group many of them have never met.

Za dom stupify.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

As long Bos. Serbs are beheaded..... That's fine !
(Partizan, 5 June 2015 13:42)

What a jerk! You prove the point - "Neo-Nazism - a dangerous threat to human rights, democracy and the rule of law"

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues.
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Speaking of promised warm meals and juice boxes :)

I think it's also funny how this cyber-goober has a user name reflecting a movement that not only supported Brotherhood and Unity but was led by a Croat who thankfully destroyed the vision of Croatia he dreams about - most likely from another country.

Za dom get your history straight, otherwise you sound like a moron.

Aleks

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Spoken like a true Ustasha. Good boy.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

All Serbs must leave Croatia for (Serbia).
Croatia as a State and Nation will nor survive World War Three(3).

You just have 4-5 Years time to leave
at the Maximum.

Arn.Sweden.

Partizan

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!

Aleks

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Spoken like a true Ustasha. Good boy.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

As long Bos. Serbs are beheaded..... That's fine !
(Partizan, 5 June 2015 13:42)

What a jerk! You prove the point - "Neo-Nazism - a dangerous threat to human rights, democracy and the rule of law"

Non-Partisan

pre 8 godina

Hey Partizan you are a hapless racist. How about this for some historical fact, Ukraine and darling Croatia supplied Hitler ,that nasty Nazi, with as many troops as they could muster to murder and pillage across their respective territories and beyond. Surely you remember him or have at least heard of him. The Serbs were and are an asset to Croatia ie. Tesla just to name one you might know but there are many millions not so famous. You my friend are a sad excuse for humanity and Russia is right to condemn your ilk.

Teoror Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Russia wants to continue to use the Serbs as their pawns in Balkans, for their dirty works.
It was the only government who was upset that Rama and Vucic didn't have any problems when they met in Tirana.
Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
Only then will be peace and prosperity in Balkans.
The ball is the Serbian court.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues.
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Speaking of promised warm meals and juice boxes :)

I think it's also funny how this cyber-goober has a user name reflecting a movement that not only supported Brotherhood and Unity but was led by a Croat who thankfully destroyed the vision of Croatia he dreams about - most likely from another country.

Za dom get your history straight, otherwise you sound like a moron.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

"This document identifies Slavonia, northern Dalmatia, and western Srem as areas of Croatia with particularly strong nationalism."

Naturally. Three of the most impoverished and neglected areas of Croatia filled with people promised a warm meal and a juice box by the local Croatian patriotic parties if they amass in the public square and protest against infringements against Faith, Fatherland, and Family. Add to this the persistent narratives even from HDZ that the Blessed Domovina is under attack from Serbs, Homosexuals, and Communists, and you have a recipe to create the perfect army of imbeciles, and worse, a whole generation of children grown up with this toxic rhetoric, ready to prove on a daily basis that the EU's newest member is chock full of people with patriotism for a country that couldn't care less about them and hatred for an ethnic group many of them have never met.

Za dom stupify.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Intolorance? Satan and the Roman Catholic Empire? Hitler the Devils servent? Croatia and Hitler born about the same time about a century ago! Before the birth of Croatia and Hitler, Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavs in the Balkans surviving all hard times! Then came Croatia and Hitler under the leadership of the Roman Catholic Empire and full blessing of the Vatican! So lets just imagine that every Serbian alive today just drop over and die, no more Serbian people left alive in the world? Peace and prosperity in the Balkans? All you enemies of Serbia out there who are much smarter than stupid me, think about this and tell me how beautiful Europe would become? How would Romania, Bulgaria and Greece feel about this. in one moment they would be sharing the frontline border with Satan! So Serbia the ancient buffer zone of Islam for the Roman Catholic Empire. So with out Serbia no buffer zone for the Roman Catholic Empire, direct contact with Islam! You see just recently when mass exodus from Islam try to cross into the Roman Catholic Empire Heaven how quickly it became a major concern to the Vatican! Serbia the Pitt Bull dogs in the Balkans for the not so Holy Roman Catholic Empire? USA, England and Germany created so much instability in the Balkans since the 1990's, a great threat to Europian National Security and World Stability and now what will Russia do to correct the problem? You see what goes around will eventually come around! God Bless Russia and Czar Vlade!!!

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Not sure why your name is "Partizan" when you sound more like an Ustasha monkey. You've committed genocide against the Serb population of occupied Krajina several times in the last century, and even the last few remaining Serbs obviously piss you off so much. Just like your savage KLA cousins.

Nothing makes me feel great inside knowing how much hate you have for my people. I wear it with pride. Here in America, Draza Mihailovic has statues honoring his sacrifice to the Allied Powers. Princip was a hero. Our people were liberators, your leaders were puppets. That will always be the source of your inferiority complex towards Serbs.

facts

pre 8 godina

just because russia said it doesnt mean its not true.
of course its true.
you are merely practicing a good defense by going on the offense.

the topic on the table is that croatians are intolerant of serbs.

and this is of course true.
as long as serbs are 8m, and they 4m..... its a problem for them.

heres another fact.
in serbia there live a lot ot croatians... albanians too.
but not so many serbs arre living in those two places.
in fact they areethnically pure.
why?

anyone who avoids answering this question by bringing up side issues is being juvenile and disengenuous.

of course they are intolerant of serbs.
they always were and tried to exterminate them in 1941-45 underorders of adolph hitler.
it has also been shown that a virulent strain of this particular racism exists in popular culture of croatia even today.
you can certainly bring up milosevic, but he tudjman was no better.

Partizan

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!

Navi

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.
(Azir, 8 June 2015 22:22)

That still doesn't make Croats not be racist. Russia is saying the same thing any Norwegian, New Zealander, or American would say about racism and Nazism in Croatia. Even SS soldiers were disgusted by what the Ustasha did.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28
=====================================
I guess you see what you want to see. Do you see Serbs vandalizing signs in Latin?
Are Serbs preventing Croats to live in Serbia? Are Serbs not allowing Croats their property rights? How many Croats are suffering in Serbia and unable to have rights?
Now answer those questions first before you imply that there is more discrimination against Croats than Serbs anywhere.
Taking all this into considerations I don't blame Serbs from expressing their anger if they are. It's far better than discrimination Serbs are forced to live under in Croatia.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Navi just because you and your people are envious of Croatia does not make them "racist".

Croatia is a member of NATO and the EU.

Serbs ,I am sure are very fond if the 78 days of outstanding aerial deposits over their country and the EU is what you have to beg Croatia to NOT veto if you qualify and recognize Kosova.

Greater Serbia Terror Campaign in Slovenia,Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosova is WHAT RACISM IS,

Gazster

pre 8 godina

Croatia dosent care what Russia thinks about anything ,serbia is desperate for EU money it will just play ball ,Croatia diplomatically is a very loyal and strongly supported Western ally it dosent care about Russian whingeing.aptain dragan will get a fair trial in the cells.

its time

pre 8 godina

its time for the Serbs to get full autonomy in krajina and all Serbs to return......with the backing of the new world the BRICS......Russia and china to lead.......

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28

Personally, who cares. Your filter is so warped.
You are the Canadian Serb troll who hates living in Serbia. Your skewed opinions are not factually based and therefore, not relevant, regardless of the time you've been miserable living in the Balkans.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02)


Poor simple rote:
Your outrageous rantings remove any doubt concerning your lack of sanity and intelligence.
It is simply impossible for you to tell the truth!

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
(Teoror Muzaka 1389, 8 June 2015 17:21)

So you mean that Albanians are a part of the Golden Billion ? Don’t you think that with your culture your mentality and your level of life standards it’s an exaggeration to say so ? Do you think that sucking the West already means being part of the West ? Do you really believe that sexual partners are always equal ? I would rather use some other comparison for you , say a condom. Is it what you offer to the Serbs ? And who told you there will be peace on Balkans this century ? I am afraid with lackeys like Albanians soon it will be a problem to find a quiet place on this beautiful planet. To say nothing of the Balkans . Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

All Serbs must leave Croatia for (Serbia).
Croatia as a State and Nation will nor survive World War Three(3).

You just have 4-5 Years time to leave
at the Maximum.

Arn.Sweden.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28)

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.

Has this ignorant individual ever heard of Ukraine?

How's about Chechnya?

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.
(красная капелла, 8 June 2015 20:43)....

Comparing Albanian ordinary criminals with Russian mafia, is like comparing Somalia and USA for standard living.

You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others ,because you are supplying Europe with prostitutes,crimes and drugs.
Albanian criminals are novice as compare to Russian professors.

And yes Albania is not part of Golden Billion, but our living standards are higher that Russia.
I have know Albanian-Russians who went to Russia after 1990 and now all of them are back to Albania.
And stay away from Balkans!

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2015 00:15)


Not at all, Ari. Hate is hate. I'm "ustasa" now? ok. Strange little world you live in.

Please remember that I've spent more time in the balkans than you've been legally an adult (if, in fact, you are an adult. your propensity for name-calling calls that into question). So, it's reality vs. your strange fantasy-constructs.

ida

pre 8 godina

Where's Lenard? A Croatian plane crashed yesterday after its engine failed and I just want to tell him how inept Croatian plane mechanics are like he always says after there's an incident with Serb planes:
Two killed in plane crash in northeastern Croatia
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6574155/2015/06/07/two-killed-plane-crash-northeastern-croatia

Avni

pre 8 godina

Russians are crazy like Serbs. Russia is saying this while minorities in Russia are killed daily. Even Tartars in recently occupied Crimea are being persecuted.

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
http://www.unian.info/politics/1032330-turkey-putin-has-not-fulfilled-one-promise-given-to-crimean-tatars.html

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Dear rote,
You should tell this "findings" to your brothers in Serbia.
Tell them that they fought against each other and not against ottomans.
Tell them there is no reason to celebrate June 28,1389.
Tell them...

As for my nick name, I am so proud to be an decent of Muzaka family,one of the most influential Albanian family.

I just put this nick name because Serbs need constant to be remind that Albanians under the command of Teodor Muzaka fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo on June,28,1389.

You tell them that Serbs,Albanians and their allies didn't fight ottomans but they fought each other...

delon

pre 8 godina

@ Rrote
From Russia with lie,

At list Albanians are being honest and have chosen openly there friends and WEST,right or wrong. Unlike your puppet SRPS that are spineless and when they are in Russia say we are EAST, when they are in Bruxelles they say we are WEST, and when in Beligrad they say we are neutral, translated, spineless cowards.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
[link]
(Avni, 8 June 2015 23:08)

You criticize Russia's stance by using statements from Turkey? You're trying to make a point, not undermine your argument.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Teodor Muzaka never mind the Russians. They have always been under criminal despots Mongols, Tatars, Czars, Communist etc. Now under a double whammy despot communist Putin KGB infested Kremlin. They like to pretend and live under delusions of grander like their crazy cousins the Serbs. Only peasant slaves with very active delusional sick imaginations. Just maybe one day they will realize their is fantasy and reality. Until then I would not hold my breath they don't know any better as life passes them by. As the centuries pass and they wallow in their own perpetual generating so sweet smelling BS to them.

factually

pre 8 godina

Lenard,

Your zeal really blinds you and makes ignorant. In fact your voice is one of the least entertaining here.

The Russian nation is a great nation that has reached the highest achievements of humanity
They are not Peasants, and it would be fairly easy to label your own stock as such.

Did your people ever write a great novel(s) like the Russians?
Go to Outer Space?
Create nuclear weapons?
Create cures and drugs that heal and extend human life?
Great paintings?
A symphony perhaps?
Create and launch a satellite?
Airplanes?
Drill for your own oil and distribute it across the world?
Establish a national, independent and autonomous Church?
On the right side of two world wars?
Establish your own language?
Have an independent country for more than 1,000 years?
How about Manufacture motor scooters?

Peasants dont do the things i listed above.
You guys dont even have your language but share it with us.
And dont give me that King Tvrtko claptrap from the 10th century that lasted all of 61 years.

Hooray, you are a great Croat!
Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Just out of curiosity but if Russia is in the position to criticize Croatia for its mistreatment or alleged mistreatment of ethnic Serbs would many regard it as justifiable if Germany and or Great Britain,United States and I suppose even if my country as well criticized Serbia if it were maltreating it's ethnic Croatian community? If relevant but from what I researched Croats (in this case the Ustashas) had a brutal streak to them during 2nd World War so much so that even their Nazi allies were supposedly shocked at the brutality of the Ustashas.

The Count of Kosova and the Squatting Hordes.

pre 8 godina

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Ian Grozny with the Grozny Yellow Teeth Hordes.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka 1389

“You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others”

I am not sure about it because when dogs bark someone have to calm them down.

P.S. About the date in your nickname I also have to disappoint you because it wasn’t a battle against the Turks. They simply were not formed yet. A Bulgarian historian Jordan Tonev investigated 26 old maps edited before 1700 and on none of them (including that of Piri Reis) neither Turkey nor the Ottomans or the Osmans were even mentioned. Instead on the “Turkish” territory there was always written NATOL not even ANATOL. So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?

Lenard

pre 8 godina

factually, 10 June 2015 00:25) Well yes to most of the below and http://croatia.eu/article.php?id=37&lang=2 so much more. We can build nuclear weapons but that's totally criminally insane to have weapons of mass destruction to wipe out life on the planet.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka

“fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo”

I do not doubt that your ancestors fought in the battle of 1389. Current history expose it as a conflict of the Turks and the Serbs. It’s lie because before the 17 century there were no nations as we understand them today. Folks from Balkans seized “Turkey” and it started after the Kosovo Battle and ended in 1453. soon they were back to Europe.

Ataturk invited scientists from Tatarstan and Bashkortostan to reform the Turkish language. Before the 20 century all “turk” speaking peoples in Caucasus and Asia still called themselves as Tatars while Greek and Persian were official languages of the Ottomans. Cities of Tir, Tirana, Tiraspol, Tur in Belarussia, Turan in Asia have the same basis as Turks. Because of the Balkan peoples this country got such a name. As well as the capitol of Istanbul = Stan Bulgar. Sound “i” is always added before “st” like ISTIQLAL (independence), ISTEFADA (use).

Sounds ridiculous but "Turks" were composed of the Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgars, Albanians, Alans, Cherkess, Russians ect. They ruled the Empire before 19 century! Now they are called KURDS whose happlogroups in Turkey they are similar to that of the Serbs, Macedonians ect. Kurds in Iraq and Syria are closer to the Greeks, Albanians, Jews while in Iran - to Caucasians and Russians. And their languages are quite different. Those were people of the Great Horde so they were called Kurde people = Horde people.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.
(factually, 10 June 2015 00:25)
===================================
You nailed it.

rote

pre 8 godina

RighteousBilly

Moscow metro is the only metro where they give you any university diploma while history is the only “science” that does not develop. They only seek for new “proofs” of their old dogmas. Like the Trojan gold of Heinrich Schliemann that was first made for him, then buried by him and finally found by himself. Every new Tsar/king/Khan adopted history for his needs because history as it gave them state power. So it was falsified for centuries especially when power was not passed from father to son. I already said that the Ottomans were different in different times. But current history offers us only one version of the bad guys. Yes they were as such but only since late 18 century. And they had to become bad guys after the capitol of their empire (Moscow) was occupied by their German rivals (Romanovs) in 1613. So we believe in history that Scaliger/Petavuis wrote for us while there’s no enough proof that at least Joseph Scaliger ever existed. His second name (“scale maker”) is also suspicious for a man who wrote the news scale of chronology. Many scientists like Isaak Newton laughed at him and wrote books about the fake chronology. But still we are told that Columbus or Vespucci found America, that Serbs fought the Turks, that Russians were backward peasants, that Islam appeared in 622, that Macedonsky was a Greek, that Arabs conquered Middle East ect. So we all are prisoners of some illusions while this Albanian Muzaka is just one of us.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Leonard you might need those weapons to defend against Serbia.
Never forget Krajina.
Europe benefits with a generap serb population decrease😜

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosova

I do not trust the BS we are told. For instance biographies of M. Servantes and W. Shakespeare have very much suspicious details in common. Both died the same day of April 23 in 1616. Both left no children to be exact they had no boys while two daughters of W. Shakespeare bore no one while illegal daughter of M. Servantes disappeared. Both wrote their books in Smuta Time when the Great Horde was in disaster. It’s a big question if the two ever existed and who wrote their books for them. Their biographies are full of empty pages. Say we are offered to believe that Servantes was a marine corps with 1 hand only ! Please explain how could he charge or fire a 15 kg musket with one hand ? So Pussy if you look at the events under such an angle you too will find a lot of strange things. You will doubt it very much that Albanians (the whites) today and Albanians 500 years ago are the same people. You will wonder why Britain is called Misty Albion. You will question why the history of the Ottomans was first written for the Sultan only in 1600 besides in Persian language by a ... Kurd ? Why the Sultans called themselves Shah-in-Shahs ? You will be surprised that for 600 years as if “slave” Yanichars and Mamelukes ruled the Empire. That in 17-18 centuries 17 out of 21 Pashas were Caucasians and almost none of the spoke “turk” language. That Arabs were not let into Mecca and Medina before 19 century. ect.ect.

rote

pre 8 godina

LEONARD

“criminal despots Mongols, Tatars”

How can a man who knows about Mauro Orbini write such things ? Mongolo-Tatars were first mentioned in 1653 in the new Romanov’s history written by the Schlotzer and Miller who coordinated parallel falsifications in Europe. Here the job was done by Scaliger and Petavius with great support of the Dutch Dominicans and Vatican Jesuit Orders. For your information Mongols left us not a single document or an artifact proving that this backward tribe ever left their territory in Asia. Moreover all their names are of Tatar/turk or Russian origin and they fail to find their Kara-Korum capital. In fact Genghis Khan and his younger brother Batu Khan (established Vatican) were Georgy Danilovich (St.George) and Ivan Danilovich (Caliph) who in 1318-1329 colonized 100% of Europe and thus ended the Crusaders’ Wars also known as Trojan or Goth Wars. Next 250-300 years Europe was a colony of the Horde while Croats, Serbs and all other Balkan peoples were part of the Horde. Until in 1613 German governors of the Horde(Goth-Alanians from Crimea) succeeded to bring Romanovs to the power inside the White Horde as the main of the Hordes. But all other hordes like Nogaiskaya (Ukraine, Turkey, Middle East, Balkans), Independent Horde (Central Asia, India, Iran), Pegaya (Far East of Russia, Korea) , Kitaiskaya (North of China, Japan), Alaska (Canada, USA), Blue (Crimea, South Ukraine, Caucasus), Great Tartaria (Siberia), Meshika (Mexico) refused to obey.

rote

pre 8 godina

To b92 :

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE !

To all the rest :

One thing surprised me today. I looked through my own comments and found out that some of you gave me your “likes”. It’s a big progress when we stop to stick to the old dogmas ! Because there are thousands of questions the historians cannot answer. They are a caste with their own professional interests. Because if they surrender they will have to refuse from their own dissertations, monographies, grants, salaries, respect ect. So it’s much easier to call someone an insane. Isn’t it strange that 80-90% of the European happlogroups are composed of two sister R1a and R1b ? How came that the Basks in Spain and France have the same R1b happlogroup as their neighbors and quite a different language ? How came that the European Qatars (Bulgar Bogomils) and a small Arab state have the same name ? Why all the international treaties of the Ottomans in 17-20 centuries were written in Greek language ? How came that after the Kosovo Battle both sides flew from the region without collecting the harvest ? Why on Earth the most powerful man on the Earth died in July of 1389 and the burial service for him was held not by his God Father Sergy Radonezhsky or at least the Russian Patriarch but by a low ranking Archbishop of Trebizond ? Why the most important part of Istanbul was called Halk-e-Don (”people from Don”) ? How came that all Turkish old mosques are built like churches and positioned towards the East ?

ect.

royals

pre 8 godina

@Teodor
The only fighting your lot did in 1389 was amongst each other about who stole who's goats. Once a goat herder always a goat herder.
Maybe all those goat herders exiting Kosovo can immigrate to that beautiful place called Croatia.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

So, Teodor Muzaka 1389 do you have any source that supports your claims that there was any Albanian who fought on serbian side in the battle of Kosovo 1389? Any source that is not modern albanian forgery?
I had read a lot about that battle and this is the best article about it:
"The Battle of Kosovo: Early Reports of Victory and Defeat"
Now, MuSaka, I expect your answer! I want to hear you.

j

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".
(Italian Serbophile, 8 June 2015 20:46)

I'd be offended if the likes of Da Vinci said this. However a people that kept electing that degenerate and mafia padrino, Berlusconi, are the last ones who should be talking about illuminism. The very fact that that piece of $h!t still walks freely after having sex with minors while a prime minister says a lot about century your folks are living.

Partizan

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Intolorance? Satan and the Roman Catholic Empire? Hitler the Devils servent? Croatia and Hitler born about the same time about a century ago! Before the birth of Croatia and Hitler, Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavs in the Balkans surviving all hard times! Then came Croatia and Hitler under the leadership of the Roman Catholic Empire and full blessing of the Vatican! So lets just imagine that every Serbian alive today just drop over and die, no more Serbian people left alive in the world? Peace and prosperity in the Balkans? All you enemies of Serbia out there who are much smarter than stupid me, think about this and tell me how beautiful Europe would become? How would Romania, Bulgaria and Greece feel about this. in one moment they would be sharing the frontline border with Satan! So Serbia the ancient buffer zone of Islam for the Roman Catholic Empire. So with out Serbia no buffer zone for the Roman Catholic Empire, direct contact with Islam! You see just recently when mass exodus from Islam try to cross into the Roman Catholic Empire Heaven how quickly it became a major concern to the Vatican! Serbia the Pitt Bull dogs in the Balkans for the not so Holy Roman Catholic Empire? USA, England and Germany created so much instability in the Balkans since the 1990's, a great threat to Europian National Security and World Stability and now what will Russia do to correct the problem? You see what goes around will eventually come around! God Bless Russia and Czar Vlade!!!

Teoror Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Russia wants to continue to use the Serbs as their pawns in Balkans, for their dirty works.
It was the only government who was upset that Rama and Vucic didn't have any problems when they met in Tirana.
Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
Only then will be peace and prosperity in Balkans.
The ball is the Serbian court.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka 1389

“You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others”

I am not sure about it because when dogs bark someone have to calm them down.

P.S. About the date in your nickname I also have to disappoint you because it wasn’t a battle against the Turks. They simply were not formed yet. A Bulgarian historian Jordan Tonev investigated 26 old maps edited before 1700 and on none of them (including that of Piri Reis) neither Turkey nor the Ottomans or the Osmans were even mentioned. Instead on the “Turkish” territory there was always written NATOL not even ANATOL. So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.

Has this ignorant individual ever heard of Ukraine?

How's about Chechnya?

Avni

pre 8 godina

Russians are crazy like Serbs. Russia is saying this while minorities in Russia are killed daily. Even Tartars in recently occupied Crimea are being persecuted.

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
http://www.unian.info/politics/1032330-turkey-putin-has-not-fulfilled-one-promise-given-to-crimean-tatars.html

Azir

pre 8 godina

Navi just because you and your people are envious of Croatia does not make them "racist".

Croatia is a member of NATO and the EU.

Serbs ,I am sure are very fond if the 78 days of outstanding aerial deposits over their country and the EU is what you have to beg Croatia to NOT veto if you qualify and recognize Kosova.

Greater Serbia Terror Campaign in Slovenia,Croatia ,Bosnia and Kosova is WHAT RACISM IS,

Non-Partisan

pre 8 godina

Hey Partizan you are a hapless racist. How about this for some historical fact, Ukraine and darling Croatia supplied Hitler ,that nasty Nazi, with as many troops as they could muster to murder and pillage across their respective territories and beyond. Surely you remember him or have at least heard of him. The Serbs were and are an asset to Croatia ie. Tesla just to name one you might know but there are many millions not so famous. You my friend are a sad excuse for humanity and Russia is right to condemn your ilk.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.
(красная капелла, 8 June 2015 20:43)....

Comparing Albanian ordinary criminals with Russian mafia, is like comparing Somalia and USA for standard living.

You Russians better shut up and don't give lectures to others ,because you are supplying Europe with prostitutes,crimes and drugs.
Albanian criminals are novice as compare to Russian professors.

And yes Albania is not part of Golden Billion, but our living standards are higher that Russia.
I have know Albanian-Russians who went to Russia after 1990 and now all of them are back to Albania.
And stay away from Balkans!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28
=====================================
I guess you see what you want to see. Do you see Serbs vandalizing signs in Latin?
Are Serbs preventing Croats to live in Serbia? Are Serbs not allowing Croats their property rights? How many Croats are suffering in Serbia and unable to have rights?
Now answer those questions first before you imply that there is more discrimination against Croats than Serbs anywhere.
Taking all this into considerations I don't blame Serbs from expressing their anger if they are. It's far better than discrimination Serbs are forced to live under in Croatia.

Aleks

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Spoken like a true Ustasha. Good boy.

ida

pre 8 godina

Where's Lenard? A Croatian plane crashed yesterday after its engine failed and I just want to tell him how inept Croatian plane mechanics are like he always says after there's an incident with Serb planes:
Two killed in plane crash in northeastern Croatia
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6574155/2015/06/07/two-killed-plane-crash-northeastern-croatia

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

All Serbs must leave Croatia for (Serbia).
Croatia as a State and Nation will nor survive World War Three(3).

You just have 4-5 Years time to leave
at the Maximum.

Arn.Sweden.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues. Putin the fascist needs to look at his own back yard on gays and the murder of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. Serbia also continues to move to the right with war criminal Mihailovich and Princip rehabilitated. What Monkeys.....!
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Not sure why your name is "Partizan" when you sound more like an Ustasha monkey. You've committed genocide against the Serb population of occupied Krajina several times in the last century, and even the last few remaining Serbs obviously piss you off so much. Just like your savage KLA cousins.

Nothing makes me feel great inside knowing how much hate you have for my people. I wear it with pride. Here in America, Draza Mihailovic has statues honoring his sacrifice to the Allied Powers. Princip was a hero. Our people were liberators, your leaders were puppets. That will always be the source of your inferiority complex towards Serbs.

Gazster

pre 8 godina

Croatia dosent care what Russia thinks about anything ,serbia is desperate for EU money it will just play ball ,Croatia diplomatically is a very loyal and strongly supported Western ally it dosent care about Russian whingeing.aptain dragan will get a fair trial in the cells.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

hate-mongering graffiti is a blight on the balkans.

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28)

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.

its time

pre 8 godina

its time for the Serbs to get full autonomy in krajina and all Serbs to return......with the backing of the new world the BRICS......Russia and china to lead.......

красная капелла

pre 8 godina

Hopefully Serbs will ignore Russia and join the western world.
(Teoror Muzaka 1389, 8 June 2015 17:21)

So you mean that Albanians are a part of the Golden Billion ? Don’t you think that with your culture your mentality and your level of life standards it’s an exaggeration to say so ? Do you think that sucking the West already means being part of the West ? Do you really believe that sexual partners are always equal ? I would rather use some other comparison for you , say a condom. Is it what you offer to the Serbs ? And who told you there will be peace on Balkans this century ? I am afraid with lackeys like Albanians soon it will be a problem to find a quiet place on this beautiful planet. To say nothing of the Balkans . Because the only thing that really unites Albanians and the West is banditism as both of you behave as gangsters. And your children will also be pushers or car stealers or racketeers or organ traffickers or thieves or political prostitutes or taxists or asylum seekers. You may be proud of your ancestor you were boasting last month but your children will be different for the worse. Unless you make peace with all the neighbors who hate you now.

From Moscow with love.

rote

pre 8 godina

Muzaka

“fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo”

I do not doubt that your ancestors fought in the battle of 1389. Current history expose it as a conflict of the Turks and the Serbs. It’s lie because before the 17 century there were no nations as we understand them today. Folks from Balkans seized “Turkey” and it started after the Kosovo Battle and ended in 1453. soon they were back to Europe.

Ataturk invited scientists from Tatarstan and Bashkortostan to reform the Turkish language. Before the 20 century all “turk” speaking peoples in Caucasus and Asia still called themselves as Tatars while Greek and Persian were official languages of the Ottomans. Cities of Tir, Tirana, Tiraspol, Tur in Belarussia, Turan in Asia have the same basis as Turks. Because of the Balkan peoples this country got such a name. As well as the capitol of Istanbul = Stan Bulgar. Sound “i” is always added before “st” like ISTIQLAL (independence), ISTEFADA (use).

Sounds ridiculous but "Turks" were composed of the Macedonians, Serbs, Bulgars, Albanians, Alans, Cherkess, Russians ect. They ruled the Empire before 19 century! Now they are called KURDS whose happlogroups in Turkey they are similar to that of the Serbs, Macedonians ect. Kurds in Iraq and Syria are closer to the Greeks, Albanians, Jews while in Iran - to Caucasians and Russians. And their languages are quite different. Those were people of the Great Horde so they were called Kurde people = Horde people.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Just out of curiosity but if Russia is in the position to criticize Croatia for its mistreatment or alleged mistreatment of ethnic Serbs would many regard it as justifiable if Germany and or Great Britain,United States and I suppose even if my country as well criticized Serbia if it were maltreating it's ethnic Croatian community? If relevant but from what I researched Croats (in this case the Ustashas) had a brutal streak to them during 2nd World War so much so that even their Nazi allies were supposedly shocked at the brutality of the Ustashas.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Teodor Muzaka never mind the Russians. They have always been under criminal despots Mongols, Tatars, Czars, Communist etc. Now under a double whammy despot communist Putin KGB infested Kremlin. They like to pretend and live under delusions of grander like their crazy cousins the Serbs. Only peasant slaves with very active delusional sick imaginations. Just maybe one day they will realize their is fantasy and reality. Until then I would not hold my breath they don't know any better as life passes them by. As the centuries pass and they wallow in their own perpetual generating so sweet smelling BS to them.

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".

facts

pre 8 godina

just because russia said it doesnt mean its not true.
of course its true.
you are merely practicing a good defense by going on the offense.

the topic on the table is that croatians are intolerant of serbs.

and this is of course true.
as long as serbs are 8m, and they 4m..... its a problem for them.

heres another fact.
in serbia there live a lot ot croatians... albanians too.
but not so many serbs arre living in those two places.
in fact they areethnically pure.
why?

anyone who avoids answering this question by bringing up side issues is being juvenile and disengenuous.

of course they are intolerant of serbs.
they always were and tried to exterminate them in 1941-45 underorders of adolph hitler.
it has also been shown that a virulent strain of this particular racism exists in popular culture of croatia even today.
you can certainly bring up milosevic, but he tudjman was no better.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Of course you do. Because you don't find nothing hateful about anti-Serb messages. Ustasha.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2015 00:15)


Not at all, Ari. Hate is hate. I'm "ustasa" now? ok. Strange little world you live in.

Please remember that I've spent more time in the balkans than you've been legally an adult (if, in fact, you are an adult. your propensity for name-calling calls that into question). So, it's reality vs. your strange fantasy-constructs.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Personally, I see a lot more of it in Belgrade then Zagreb.
(Danilo, 8 June 2015 19:28

Personally, who cares. Your filter is so warped.
You are the Canadian Serb troll who hates living in Serbia. Your skewed opinions are not factually based and therefore, not relevant, regardless of the time you've been miserable living in the Balkans.

factually

pre 8 godina

Lenard,

Your zeal really blinds you and makes ignorant. In fact your voice is one of the least entertaining here.

The Russian nation is a great nation that has reached the highest achievements of humanity
They are not Peasants, and it would be fairly easy to label your own stock as such.

Did your people ever write a great novel(s) like the Russians?
Go to Outer Space?
Create nuclear weapons?
Create cures and drugs that heal and extend human life?
Great paintings?
A symphony perhaps?
Create and launch a satellite?
Airplanes?
Drill for your own oil and distribute it across the world?
Establish a national, independent and autonomous Church?
On the right side of two world wars?
Establish your own language?
Have an independent country for more than 1,000 years?
How about Manufacture motor scooters?

Peasants dont do the things i listed above.
You guys dont even have your language but share it with us.
And dont give me that King Tvrtko claptrap from the 10th century that lasted all of 61 years.

Hooray, you are a great Croat!
Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosova

I do not trust the BS we are told. For instance biographies of M. Servantes and W. Shakespeare have very much suspicious details in common. Both died the same day of April 23 in 1616. Both left no children to be exact they had no boys while two daughters of W. Shakespeare bore no one while illegal daughter of M. Servantes disappeared. Both wrote their books in Smuta Time when the Great Horde was in disaster. It’s a big question if the two ever existed and who wrote their books for them. Their biographies are full of empty pages. Say we are offered to believe that Servantes was a marine corps with 1 hand only ! Please explain how could he charge or fire a 15 kg musket with one hand ? So Pussy if you look at the events under such an angle you too will find a lot of strange things. You will doubt it very much that Albanians (the whites) today and Albanians 500 years ago are the same people. You will wonder why Britain is called Misty Albion. You will question why the history of the Ottomans was first written for the Sultan only in 1600 besides in Persian language by a ... Kurd ? Why the Sultans called themselves Shah-in-Shahs ? You will be surprised that for 600 years as if “slave” Yanichars and Mamelukes ruled the Empire. That in 17-18 centuries 17 out of 21 Pashas were Caucasians and almost none of the spoke “turk” language. That Arabs were not let into Mecca and Medina before 19 century. ect.ect.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

As long Bos. Serbs are beheaded..... That's fine !
(Partizan, 5 June 2015 13:42)

What a jerk! You prove the point - "Neo-Nazism - a dangerous threat to human rights, democracy and the rule of law"

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

If there were no Serbs in Croatia there would be no issues.
(Partizan, 8 June 2015 13:58)

Speaking of promised warm meals and juice boxes :)

I think it's also funny how this cyber-goober has a user name reflecting a movement that not only supported Brotherhood and Unity but was led by a Croat who thankfully destroyed the vision of Croatia he dreams about - most likely from another country.

Za dom get your history straight, otherwise you sound like a moron.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Guess what? By hating Serbs or Russians, you do not become a greater Croat, but a lesser one.
Thats the problem with a lot of you guys, you have a serious inferiority complex.
(factually, 10 June 2015 00:25)
===================================
You nailed it.

rote

pre 8 godina

To b92 :

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE !

To all the rest :

One thing surprised me today. I looked through my own comments and found out that some of you gave me your “likes”. It’s a big progress when we stop to stick to the old dogmas ! Because there are thousands of questions the historians cannot answer. They are a caste with their own professional interests. Because if they surrender they will have to refuse from their own dissertations, monographies, grants, salaries, respect ect. So it’s much easier to call someone an insane. Isn’t it strange that 80-90% of the European happlogroups are composed of two sister R1a and R1b ? How came that the Basks in Spain and France have the same R1b happlogroup as their neighbors and quite a different language ? How came that the European Qatars (Bulgar Bogomils) and a small Arab state have the same name ? Why all the international treaties of the Ottomans in 17-20 centuries were written in Greek language ? How came that after the Kosovo Battle both sides flew from the region without collecting the harvest ? Why on Earth the most powerful man on the Earth died in July of 1389 and the burial service for him was held not by his God Father Sergy Radonezhsky or at least the Russian Patriarch but by a low ranking Archbishop of Trebizond ? Why the most important part of Istanbul was called Halk-e-Don (”people from Don”) ? How came that all Turkish old mosques are built like churches and positioned towards the East ?

ect.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Russia should be the last country in the world to talk about Freedom,Democracy and Human Rights.
(Azir, 8 June 2015 22:22)

That still doesn't make Croats not be racist. Russia is saying the same thing any Norwegian, New Zealander, or American would say about racism and Nazism in Croatia. Even SS soldiers were disgusted by what the Ustasha did.

delon

pre 8 godina

@ Rrote
From Russia with lie,

At list Albanians are being honest and have chosen openly there friends and WEST,right or wrong. Unlike your puppet SRPS that are spineless and when they are in Russia say we are EAST, when they are in Bruxelles they say we are WEST, and when in Beligrad they say we are neutral, translated, spineless cowards.

royals

pre 8 godina

@Teodor
The only fighting your lot did in 1389 was amongst each other about who stole who's goats. Once a goat herder always a goat herder.
Maybe all those goat herders exiting Kosovo can immigrate to that beautiful place called Croatia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

"This document identifies Slavonia, northern Dalmatia, and western Srem as areas of Croatia with particularly strong nationalism."

Naturally. Three of the most impoverished and neglected areas of Croatia filled with people promised a warm meal and a juice box by the local Croatian patriotic parties if they amass in the public square and protest against infringements against Faith, Fatherland, and Family. Add to this the persistent narratives even from HDZ that the Blessed Domovina is under attack from Serbs, Homosexuals, and Communists, and you have a recipe to create the perfect army of imbeciles, and worse, a whole generation of children grown up with this toxic rhetoric, ready to prove on a daily basis that the EU's newest member is chock full of people with patriotism for a country that couldn't care less about them and hatred for an ethnic group many of them have never met.

Za dom stupify.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...So the battle you mean was one of the 3 great battles of the civil war inside the Great Horde where both sides were composed of the Orthodox people only. Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Dear rote,
You should tell this "findings" to your brothers in Serbia.
Tell them that they fought against each other and not against ottomans.
Tell them there is no reason to celebrate June 28,1389.
Tell them...

As for my nick name, I am so proud to be an decent of Muzaka family,one of the most influential Albanian family.

I just put this nick name because Serbs need constant to be remind that Albanians under the command of Teodor Muzaka fought against ottomans and died in the Battle for Kosovo on June,28,1389.

You tell them that Serbs,Albanians and their allies didn't fight ottomans but they fought each other...

The Count of Kosova and the Squatting Hordes.

pre 8 godina

Who else would lecture you should I follow your advice ?
(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02) ...

Ian Grozny with the Grozny Yellow Teeth Hordes.

rote

pre 8 godina

RighteousBilly

Moscow metro is the only metro where they give you any university diploma while history is the only “science” that does not develop. They only seek for new “proofs” of their old dogmas. Like the Trojan gold of Heinrich Schliemann that was first made for him, then buried by him and finally found by himself. Every new Tsar/king/Khan adopted history for his needs because history as it gave them state power. So it was falsified for centuries especially when power was not passed from father to son. I already said that the Ottomans were different in different times. But current history offers us only one version of the bad guys. Yes they were as such but only since late 18 century. And they had to become bad guys after the capitol of their empire (Moscow) was occupied by their German rivals (Romanovs) in 1613. So we believe in history that Scaliger/Petavuis wrote for us while there’s no enough proof that at least Joseph Scaliger ever existed. His second name (“scale maker”) is also suspicious for a man who wrote the news scale of chronology. Many scientists like Isaak Newton laughed at him and wrote books about the fake chronology. But still we are told that Columbus or Vespucci found America, that Serbs fought the Turks, that Russians were backward peasants, that Islam appeared in 622, that Macedonsky was a Greek, that Arabs conquered Middle East ect. So we all are prisoners of some illusions while this Albanian Muzaka is just one of us.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Leonard you might need those weapons to defend against Serbia.
Never forget Krajina.
Europe benefits with a generap serb population decrease😜

Navi

pre 8 godina

Turkey: Putin has not fulfilled one promise given to Crimean Tatars
[link]
(Avni, 8 June 2015 23:08)

You criticize Russia's stance by using statements from Turkey? You're trying to make a point, not undermine your argument.

rote

pre 8 godina

LEONARD

“criminal despots Mongols, Tatars”

How can a man who knows about Mauro Orbini write such things ? Mongolo-Tatars were first mentioned in 1653 in the new Romanov’s history written by the Schlotzer and Miller who coordinated parallel falsifications in Europe. Here the job was done by Scaliger and Petavius with great support of the Dutch Dominicans and Vatican Jesuit Orders. For your information Mongols left us not a single document or an artifact proving that this backward tribe ever left their territory in Asia. Moreover all their names are of Tatar/turk or Russian origin and they fail to find their Kara-Korum capital. In fact Genghis Khan and his younger brother Batu Khan (established Vatican) were Georgy Danilovich (St.George) and Ivan Danilovich (Caliph) who in 1318-1329 colonized 100% of Europe and thus ended the Crusaders’ Wars also known as Trojan or Goth Wars. Next 250-300 years Europe was a colony of the Horde while Croats, Serbs and all other Balkan peoples were part of the Horde. Until in 1613 German governors of the Horde(Goth-Alanians from Crimea) succeeded to bring Romanovs to the power inside the White Horde as the main of the Hordes. But all other hordes like Nogaiskaya (Ukraine, Turkey, Middle East, Balkans), Independent Horde (Central Asia, India, Iran), Pegaya (Far East of Russia, Korea) , Kitaiskaya (North of China, Japan), Alaska (Canada, USA), Blue (Crimea, South Ukraine, Caucasus), Great Tartaria (Siberia), Meshika (Mexico) refused to obey.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Murad-1 known in Russia as Dmitry Donskoy on behalf of the White Horde and Tamerlane also known as Alexander the Great and Mehmet II on behalf of the Golden Horde. Because Islam and the Catholics before 17 century did not exist yet.

(rote, 9 June 2015 13:02)


Poor simple rote:
Your outrageous rantings remove any doubt concerning your lack of sanity and intelligence.
It is simply impossible for you to tell the truth!

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

So, Teodor Muzaka 1389 do you have any source that supports your claims that there was any Albanian who fought on serbian side in the battle of Kosovo 1389? Any source that is not modern albanian forgery?
I had read a lot about that battle and this is the best article about it:
"The Battle of Kosovo: Early Reports of Victory and Defeat"
Now, MuSaka, I expect your answer! I want to hear you.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

factually, 10 June 2015 00:25) Well yes to most of the below and http://croatia.eu/article.php?id=37&lang=2 so much more. We can build nuclear weapons but that's totally criminally insane to have weapons of mass destruction to wipe out life on the planet.

j

pre 8 godina

It's awesome to read an albanian, whose people is the only one in Europe that has not lived principles of Illuminism and French Revolution and belongs or to Middle Age or jihadism, saying someone else that "he has to reach West".
(Italian Serbophile, 8 June 2015 20:46)

I'd be offended if the likes of Da Vinci said this. However a people that kept electing that degenerate and mafia padrino, Berlusconi, are the last ones who should be talking about illuminism. The very fact that that piece of $h!t still walks freely after having sex with minors while a prime minister says a lot about century your folks are living.