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Friday, 29.05.2015.

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President's Kosovo platform is too late - FM Dacic

Ivica Dacic says that the president's Kosovo platform is too late, that he is not familiar with its contents, but is himself "closer" to the policy if PM Vucic.

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Joni

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.
(ive, 31 May 2015 12:48)

Kosova - was our wound.
The Kosova people are not serbs, so i don't understand... Your wound....???
And we still can not forget the crimes you did to obtain Kosova...
While you lose time thinking about Kosova, is better to think if 'tomorrow" in Vojvodina will come a "nationalist" who will demand the same thing as Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo ... etc ..... ... then what you will do?
Can you answer to me?
I hope that you have learned from Kosovo conflict, and don't do the same error twice...
But, i'm sure just for one thing : You are "paying" and will continue to "pay" for what you have done.
Only "God" knows how many innocent blood you have shed for those lands, so "he" can not forget.
He couldn't!

Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 1 June 2015 09:08)
If Russia is the 'fair" state that you believe then why Russia accept the "massacre" of Armenians in the WWI, and don't accept the massacres that Serbia have done against innocent Albanians in the WWI. ( AND - for not talking for the massacres in Kroatia, Bosnia and Kosovo during the 1990 -1999 ).
If Russia will be that kind of state then be sure that it will be the leader in world...
But if your "judgement" is unjust then you become "distrust" - and that happened to Russia.
Russia always have covered Serbs in their wrong actions an crimes against all the neighbors, for this reason they have not yet paid for what they had done. For this reason, they continue to be arrogant towards those that they have caused more "pain" and 'hate".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

Free

pre 8 godina

An exchange of Presevo with Northern Kosovo is unacceptable for 3 reasons:

1. Serbia can not accept to lose Presevo which is a motorway "A1" Thessaloniki-Skopje-Beograd-Budapest. And on the other hand the Serb people will not be happy to give something which is theirs in exchange for something which they pretend ownership.

2. Kosovo con not afford to lose Northern Kosovo or will lose too much of its resources (hydro and mine resorces). And Albanian Kosovars will not accept to exchange Northern Kosovo which they pretend to own for Presevo which they pretend to have the right of ownership too.

3. EU will not accept any exchange on ethnic motivation for two simple reasons, EU doesn`t like a "pure ethnic state solution" because it`s building an Multiethnic-Super-State.

The only solution is collaboration. Practically erasing the borders. And this is going to happen, sooner or latter.

icj

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

You just had this epiphany?! Of course the EU will tell Serbia what it needs to do in order to join the EU. It's Serbia that has asked to join, not vice versa. If Serbia does not like the conditions, then don't join - simple as that.
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What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

I love it when people like you make absolute statements which can be easily shown to be a lie. A person I know in Kosovo-Metohija has built a house with his money. So, there is, at least, one thing standing which was not built with Serbian taxpayer $$$ - so your statement about "documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing" is a lie :)

Advice: Give yourself a way out in the future by using words such as "most", "majority", etc... absolute words like "always", "all", "everything" can be easily shown to be a lie and you become a liar haha

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

There are Serbs and Albanians on here who make
stupid, hateful comments.
Here is the challenge to all of you.
Lets see anybody come up with a solution which will be accepted by both Serbs and Albanians.

I think en exchange of North Kosovo for Preshevo valley would be the best solution.

I bet you anything Serbs and Albanians on here will argue this is not a good solution.

It's easy to just run your mouth unfortunately Balkan does not have shortage of Idiots, but lets see if you will be able to come up with good solution.

rote

pre 8 godina

Alb

Split this split that … Are you an idiot not to think of the sequences ? Which episode in the Serbian history makes you be so optimistic about the outcome ? And do you believe that Russia will be watching this scenario over the TV ? Only a moron sitting on a barrel of powder can make such plans.

С любовью из Москвы !

ive

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.

Free

pre 8 godina

I don`t get it, why is this "happimess" about Kossovo Indipendence from some Albanian comments? That happened de juro 7 years amd de facto 16 years ago. Why "abusing" with the tolerance of the host?

Is every problem solved with Kosovo Indipendence? I don`t think so.
More than recognition from Belgrade, Kosovo needs to be a real country, with a real economy. Amd this is not going to happen unnless Serb Kosovars, especially in Northern Kosovo decide to be incorporated in Kosovo.

And the only way for Northern Kosovo to stop being a "big ghetto" like it is till now, is to be incorporated in Kosovo.

So Albanian Kosovars` future is in Serb Kosovars` hands, and Serbs` Kosovar future is in Albanian Kosovars` hands.

Interferings from both Albania and Serbia are only worsening Kosovars` life, both Albanian and Serb.

There is no turning back under Serbia`s rule, there is no Union with Albania. Simple and plain.

Brian

pre 8 godina

According to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia recognizes Kosovo independence. Vucic is also talking about a Kosovo independence referendum.

Alb

pre 8 godina

I think Albanians would be better off going to war since serbia is isolated by NATO members, and split up serbia to Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania. Split Macedonia between Bulgaria and Albania, Let Albania have Montenegro, and split Bosnia between Albania and Croatia. PEACE RESTORED IN THE REGION.

James

pre 8 godina

Serbia is just wasting time and energy on a dead end tunnel. Kosovo has gone and to be realistic should have gone since 1980s. Serbia needs to stop dreaming and allow it to be. What isn't Serbia's will never be Serbia's. You can't have what isn't yours. If i was in charge of Serbia i would rather pay much attention to Vojvodina, Sandzak and South Serbia. Serbia cannot rule over non-serbians and full stop.

eric

pre 8 godina

getting kosovo back is the same as getting Constantinople back to rome LOL aint gone happen, times change, ethnographics change by migration and of course it will continue to change in the future deal with it. how in the right mind you want 2 million Albanians under serbian rule hahaha i mean you have to be living in another planet lol

Illyrian

pre 8 godina

I just want to say one thing:

Please have a look : http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~225715~5506605:Ethnographical-Map-of-Europe,-in-th?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=q%3Aethnography%20map%3Bsort%3APub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%3Blc%3ARUMSEY~8~1&mi=33&trs=60

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 16:26)

So what Nato bombed and killed 100 Albanins sad but at least Kosovo is Albanian did Serbia win on their own any war NO, Serbia was expelling people and taking their documents at the border thats what showes true intent of Serbia the same people in power today except Slobo but Jr is there.

Ari i bet it kills you that you can not do anything about it.

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a strong statement from Dacic. Distancing himself from Nikolic, saying he had nothing to do with his ridiculous idea of partitioning Kosovo without offering anything in return. And that Nikolic lives in dreams basically. And at the same time implying that Vucic does not agree with Nikolic either. Finally, reminding Vucic (a veiled threat) that Tadic cannot replace Dacic in the majority in parliament. This is only what appears on the surface at least. One has to hand it to him, he is an able politician.

boom

pre 8 godina

Finally, reality is starting to sink in our politicians minds.
Kosovo is populated in absolute majority by Albanians.
I would agree that Kosovo would have a better management if it was under Serbia but that divorce is consumed now and Milosevic did irreparable damage to our relations.
On the other hand, imagine we got Kosovo back, Serbia will become a bilingual country with Albanian having equal status ( that will create some jobs), our parliament will be mostly paralyzed as no government can get majority without the Albanians, and if claims that Kosovo birthrate is higher than ours are true, overtime the whole of Serbia will start to look like Kosovo.
Not that I have anything against this, but I don't see our society ready for cohabitation with Kosovars on equal basis, (there were some times under Tito that I am nostalgic as we truly lived in harmony with each other in Kosovo, but it did not last because of hated politicians in Belgrade)
So, better recognize the divorce, stop living in denial, let the healing begin and move on with life.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari,
Congratulations Mr. fool's gold, you have finally realized that Serbia has no say in matters concerning Kosova.

It is really eating away at you like a cancer that Kosova has received so much financial aid from the U.S. and elsewhere and Serbia has not. But, then again, why should Serbia be rewarded for starting four wars in ten years in which they were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of rapes in addition to destroying the homes of half a million Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians.

@ Ari
"What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing."

The Serb taxpayer never had the billions of $$$ you claim they paid. It was paid for by the taxpayers of former Yugoslavia who also paid for everything built in Serbia. Furthermore, Serbia lost their right to any property they once had in Kosova because of the barbarity they committed against their neighbors during the 1990's. Remember, to the victor go the spoils.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself!
(Rocky, 29 May 2015 11:40)

You didn't win shit bro. External powers who are much stronger than either of us decided that they would like to intervene on behalf of Albanian terrorists. Not before they bombed you too, over 100 Albanians were killed due to NATO bombs.

In time since the war, you're middle management has turned Kosovo-Metohija to the backwater of Europe. So bad that 100, 000 of your own people fled in a matter of months. Serbia's government is your best friend and you still are failing by all objective measures. I say don't change a thing.

Krasniqi

pre 8 godina

"There is a big difference between a political declaration in Belgrade and the needs of the people in Kosovo. We in Belgrade can adopt whatever we want, but in Prizren, which was once the capital (of Serbia) there are now 21 Serbs, the Serbian flag will hardly fly."

The statement above is reality, move on and recognise Kosovo's Independence and then help improve neighbourly relations for the good of all Serbs and Albanians.

People forget that it was the Serbs and Albanian that fought in so many wars together, let get over the reality that in Kosovo 99% of its population don't want to be governed by Belgrade.

peace.

Atila

pre 8 godina

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Lets say your thoughts are correct for one second, would you pay for infrastructure in Vojvodina to Hungary? Most Serbia can get is the North or defacto North the way they are today. Serbia lost the war to victors go the spoils, just like in WWI you did not win the war on your own but you got Vojvodina and Kosovo.

Cheers be upset that serbian politicians are selling your country pice by pice :) this are same criminals who were in government during the war in 1990's.

Brian

pre 8 godina

All Nikolic platform does is state in law what serbias constitutiton says. It's "too late" for serbias constitution! So when is the Kosovo independence referendum in Serbia?

Rocky

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari fools-gold, how are u liking what's coming out of your oh so strong Serbia these last few days? Even the once oowerful Serbian henchmen are starting to see the reality of how things are and will be! Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself! Things will continue to be set strait my little radical friend Ari!
Ari I recommend you take up a new hobby, like bird watching or maybe even some piano lessons to help relaxe your tense and jittery self?

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari fools-gold, how are u liking what's coming out of your oh so strong Serbia these last few days? Even the once oowerful Serbian henchmen are starting to see the reality of how things are and will be! Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself! Things will continue to be set strait my little radical friend Ari!
Ari I recommend you take up a new hobby, like bird watching or maybe even some piano lessons to help relaxe your tense and jittery self?

Krasniqi

pre 8 godina

"There is a big difference between a political declaration in Belgrade and the needs of the people in Kosovo. We in Belgrade can adopt whatever we want, but in Prizren, which was once the capital (of Serbia) there are now 21 Serbs, the Serbian flag will hardly fly."

The statement above is reality, move on and recognise Kosovo's Independence and then help improve neighbourly relations for the good of all Serbs and Albanians.

People forget that it was the Serbs and Albanian that fought in so many wars together, let get over the reality that in Kosovo 99% of its population don't want to be governed by Belgrade.

peace.

boom

pre 8 godina

Finally, reality is starting to sink in our politicians minds.
Kosovo is populated in absolute majority by Albanians.
I would agree that Kosovo would have a better management if it was under Serbia but that divorce is consumed now and Milosevic did irreparable damage to our relations.
On the other hand, imagine we got Kosovo back, Serbia will become a bilingual country with Albanian having equal status ( that will create some jobs), our parliament will be mostly paralyzed as no government can get majority without the Albanians, and if claims that Kosovo birthrate is higher than ours are true, overtime the whole of Serbia will start to look like Kosovo.
Not that I have anything against this, but I don't see our society ready for cohabitation with Kosovars on equal basis, (there were some times under Tito that I am nostalgic as we truly lived in harmony with each other in Kosovo, but it did not last because of hated politicians in Belgrade)
So, better recognize the divorce, stop living in denial, let the healing begin and move on with life.

Atila

pre 8 godina

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Lets say your thoughts are correct for one second, would you pay for infrastructure in Vojvodina to Hungary? Most Serbia can get is the North or defacto North the way they are today. Serbia lost the war to victors go the spoils, just like in WWI you did not win the war on your own but you got Vojvodina and Kosovo.

Cheers be upset that serbian politicians are selling your country pice by pice :) this are same criminals who were in government during the war in 1990's.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.

Brian

pre 8 godina

All Nikolic platform does is state in law what serbias constitutiton says. It's "too late" for serbias constitution! So when is the Kosovo independence referendum in Serbia?

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari,
Congratulations Mr. fool's gold, you have finally realized that Serbia has no say in matters concerning Kosova.

It is really eating away at you like a cancer that Kosova has received so much financial aid from the U.S. and elsewhere and Serbia has not. But, then again, why should Serbia be rewarded for starting four wars in ten years in which they were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of rapes in addition to destroying the homes of half a million Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians.

@ Ari
"What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing."

The Serb taxpayer never had the billions of $$$ you claim they paid. It was paid for by the taxpayers of former Yugoslavia who also paid for everything built in Serbia. Furthermore, Serbia lost their right to any property they once had in Kosova because of the barbarity they committed against their neighbors during the 1990's. Remember, to the victor go the spoils.

Illyrian

pre 8 godina

I just want to say one thing:

Please have a look : http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~225715~5506605:Ethnographical-Map-of-Europe,-in-th?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=q%3Aethnography%20map%3Bsort%3APub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%3Blc%3ARUMSEY~8~1&mi=33&trs=60

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself!
(Rocky, 29 May 2015 11:40)

You didn't win shit bro. External powers who are much stronger than either of us decided that they would like to intervene on behalf of Albanian terrorists. Not before they bombed you too, over 100 Albanians were killed due to NATO bombs.

In time since the war, you're middle management has turned Kosovo-Metohija to the backwater of Europe. So bad that 100, 000 of your own people fled in a matter of months. Serbia's government is your best friend and you still are failing by all objective measures. I say don't change a thing.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 16:26)

So what Nato bombed and killed 100 Albanins sad but at least Kosovo is Albanian did Serbia win on their own any war NO, Serbia was expelling people and taking their documents at the border thats what showes true intent of Serbia the same people in power today except Slobo but Jr is there.

Ari i bet it kills you that you can not do anything about it.

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a strong statement from Dacic. Distancing himself from Nikolic, saying he had nothing to do with his ridiculous idea of partitioning Kosovo without offering anything in return. And that Nikolic lives in dreams basically. And at the same time implying that Vucic does not agree with Nikolic either. Finally, reminding Vucic (a veiled threat) that Tadic cannot replace Dacic in the majority in parliament. This is only what appears on the surface at least. One has to hand it to him, he is an able politician.

James

pre 8 godina

Serbia is just wasting time and energy on a dead end tunnel. Kosovo has gone and to be realistic should have gone since 1980s. Serbia needs to stop dreaming and allow it to be. What isn't Serbia's will never be Serbia's. You can't have what isn't yours. If i was in charge of Serbia i would rather pay much attention to Vojvodina, Sandzak and South Serbia. Serbia cannot rule over non-serbians and full stop.

eric

pre 8 godina

getting kosovo back is the same as getting Constantinople back to rome LOL aint gone happen, times change, ethnographics change by migration and of course it will continue to change in the future deal with it. how in the right mind you want 2 million Albanians under serbian rule hahaha i mean you have to be living in another planet lol

Brian

pre 8 godina

According to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia recognizes Kosovo independence. Vucic is also talking about a Kosovo independence referendum.

Alb

pre 8 godina

I think Albanians would be better off going to war since serbia is isolated by NATO members, and split up serbia to Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania. Split Macedonia between Bulgaria and Albania, Let Albania have Montenegro, and split Bosnia between Albania and Croatia. PEACE RESTORED IN THE REGION.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.
(ive, 31 May 2015 12:48)

Kosova - was our wound.
The Kosova people are not serbs, so i don't understand... Your wound....???
And we still can not forget the crimes you did to obtain Kosova...
While you lose time thinking about Kosova, is better to think if 'tomorrow" in Vojvodina will come a "nationalist" who will demand the same thing as Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo ... etc ..... ... then what you will do?
Can you answer to me?
I hope that you have learned from Kosovo conflict, and don't do the same error twice...
But, i'm sure just for one thing : You are "paying" and will continue to "pay" for what you have done.
Only "God" knows how many innocent blood you have shed for those lands, so "he" can not forget.
He couldn't!

Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 1 June 2015 09:08)
If Russia is the 'fair" state that you believe then why Russia accept the "massacre" of Armenians in the WWI, and don't accept the massacres that Serbia have done against innocent Albanians in the WWI. ( AND - for not talking for the massacres in Kroatia, Bosnia and Kosovo during the 1990 -1999 ).
If Russia will be that kind of state then be sure that it will be the leader in world...
But if your "judgement" is unjust then you become "distrust" - and that happened to Russia.
Russia always have covered Serbs in their wrong actions an crimes against all the neighbors, for this reason they have not yet paid for what they had done. For this reason, they continue to be arrogant towards those that they have caused more "pain" and 'hate".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

Free

pre 8 godina

I don`t get it, why is this "happimess" about Kossovo Indipendence from some Albanian comments? That happened de juro 7 years amd de facto 16 years ago. Why "abusing" with the tolerance of the host?

Is every problem solved with Kosovo Indipendence? I don`t think so.
More than recognition from Belgrade, Kosovo needs to be a real country, with a real economy. Amd this is not going to happen unnless Serb Kosovars, especially in Northern Kosovo decide to be incorporated in Kosovo.

And the only way for Northern Kosovo to stop being a "big ghetto" like it is till now, is to be incorporated in Kosovo.

So Albanian Kosovars` future is in Serb Kosovars` hands, and Serbs` Kosovar future is in Albanian Kosovars` hands.

Interferings from both Albania and Serbia are only worsening Kosovars` life, both Albanian and Serb.

There is no turning back under Serbia`s rule, there is no Union with Albania. Simple and plain.

rote

pre 8 godina

Alb

Split this split that … Are you an idiot not to think of the sequences ? Which episode in the Serbian history makes you be so optimistic about the outcome ? And do you believe that Russia will be watching this scenario over the TV ? Only a moron sitting on a barrel of powder can make such plans.

С любовью из Москвы !

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

There are Serbs and Albanians on here who make
stupid, hateful comments.
Here is the challenge to all of you.
Lets see anybody come up with a solution which will be accepted by both Serbs and Albanians.

I think en exchange of North Kosovo for Preshevo valley would be the best solution.

I bet you anything Serbs and Albanians on here will argue this is not a good solution.

It's easy to just run your mouth unfortunately Balkan does not have shortage of Idiots, but lets see if you will be able to come up with good solution.

icj

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

You just had this epiphany?! Of course the EU will tell Serbia what it needs to do in order to join the EU. It's Serbia that has asked to join, not vice versa. If Serbia does not like the conditions, then don't join - simple as that.
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What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

I love it when people like you make absolute statements which can be easily shown to be a lie. A person I know in Kosovo-Metohija has built a house with his money. So, there is, at least, one thing standing which was not built with Serbian taxpayer $$$ - so your statement about "documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing" is a lie :)

Advice: Give yourself a way out in the future by using words such as "most", "majority", etc... absolute words like "always", "all", "everything" can be easily shown to be a lie and you become a liar haha

Free

pre 8 godina

An exchange of Presevo with Northern Kosovo is unacceptable for 3 reasons:

1. Serbia can not accept to lose Presevo which is a motorway "A1" Thessaloniki-Skopje-Beograd-Budapest. And on the other hand the Serb people will not be happy to give something which is theirs in exchange for something which they pretend ownership.

2. Kosovo con not afford to lose Northern Kosovo or will lose too much of its resources (hydro and mine resorces). And Albanian Kosovars will not accept to exchange Northern Kosovo which they pretend to own for Presevo which they pretend to have the right of ownership too.

3. EU will not accept any exchange on ethnic motivation for two simple reasons, EU doesn`t like a "pure ethnic state solution" because it`s building an Multiethnic-Super-State.

The only solution is collaboration. Practically erasing the borders. And this is going to happen, sooner or latter.

ive

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself!
(Rocky, 29 May 2015 11:40)

You didn't win shit bro. External powers who are much stronger than either of us decided that they would like to intervene on behalf of Albanian terrorists. Not before they bombed you too, over 100 Albanians were killed due to NATO bombs.

In time since the war, you're middle management has turned Kosovo-Metohija to the backwater of Europe. So bad that 100, 000 of your own people fled in a matter of months. Serbia's government is your best friend and you still are failing by all objective measures. I say don't change a thing.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

At the moment nobody in Brussels knows what exactly will be written in this agreement," said Dacic, who also serves as first deputy prime minister.

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.

What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari fools-gold, how are u liking what's coming out of your oh so strong Serbia these last few days? Even the once oowerful Serbian henchmen are starting to see the reality of how things are and will be! Forget Kosova Ari, you Serbs didn't lose it, we Albanians won it, as we have been entitled to it since the dawn of humanity itself! Things will continue to be set strait my little radical friend Ari!
Ari I recommend you take up a new hobby, like bird watching or maybe even some piano lessons to help relaxe your tense and jittery self?

ive

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.

Alb

pre 8 godina

I think Albanians would be better off going to war since serbia is isolated by NATO members, and split up serbia to Croatia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania. Split Macedonia between Bulgaria and Albania, Let Albania have Montenegro, and split Bosnia between Albania and Croatia. PEACE RESTORED IN THE REGION.

Brian

pre 8 godina

All Nikolic platform does is state in law what serbias constitutiton says. It's "too late" for serbias constitution! So when is the Kosovo independence referendum in Serbia?

Krasniqi

pre 8 godina

"There is a big difference between a political declaration in Belgrade and the needs of the people in Kosovo. We in Belgrade can adopt whatever we want, but in Prizren, which was once the capital (of Serbia) there are now 21 Serbs, the Serbian flag will hardly fly."

The statement above is reality, move on and recognise Kosovo's Independence and then help improve neighbourly relations for the good of all Serbs and Albanians.

People forget that it was the Serbs and Albanian that fought in so many wars together, let get over the reality that in Kosovo 99% of its population don't want to be governed by Belgrade.

peace.

Atila

pre 8 godina

A responsible government would never do anything to endanger these assets.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Lets say your thoughts are correct for one second, would you pay for infrastructure in Vojvodina to Hungary? Most Serbia can get is the North or defacto North the way they are today. Serbia lost the war to victors go the spoils, just like in WWI you did not win the war on your own but you got Vojvodina and Kosovo.

Cheers be upset that serbian politicians are selling your country pice by pice :) this are same criminals who were in government during the war in 1990's.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

Ari,
Congratulations Mr. fool's gold, you have finally realized that Serbia has no say in matters concerning Kosova.

It is really eating away at you like a cancer that Kosova has received so much financial aid from the U.S. and elsewhere and Serbia has not. But, then again, why should Serbia be rewarded for starting four wars in ten years in which they were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of rapes in addition to destroying the homes of half a million Croats, Bosniaks and Albanians.

@ Ari
"What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing."

The Serb taxpayer never had the billions of $$$ you claim they paid. It was paid for by the taxpayers of former Yugoslavia who also paid for everything built in Serbia. Furthermore, Serbia lost their right to any property they once had in Kosova because of the barbarity they committed against their neighbors during the 1990's. Remember, to the victor go the spoils.

James

pre 8 godina

Serbia is just wasting time and energy on a dead end tunnel. Kosovo has gone and to be realistic should have gone since 1980s. Serbia needs to stop dreaming and allow it to be. What isn't Serbia's will never be Serbia's. You can't have what isn't yours. If i was in charge of Serbia i would rather pay much attention to Vojvodina, Sandzak and South Serbia. Serbia cannot rule over non-serbians and full stop.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 16:26)

So what Nato bombed and killed 100 Albanins sad but at least Kosovo is Albanian did Serbia win on their own any war NO, Serbia was expelling people and taking their documents at the border thats what showes true intent of Serbia the same people in power today except Slobo but Jr is there.

Ari i bet it kills you that you can not do anything about it.

rote

pre 8 godina

Alb

Split this split that … Are you an idiot not to think of the sequences ? Which episode in the Serbian history makes you be so optimistic about the outcome ? And do you believe that Russia will be watching this scenario over the TV ? Only a moron sitting on a barrel of powder can make such plans.

С любовью из Москвы !

Illyrian

pre 8 godina

I just want to say one thing:

Please have a look : http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~225715~5506605:Ethnographical-Map-of-Europe,-in-th?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&qvq=q%3Aethnography%20map%3Bsort%3APub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No%3Blc%3ARUMSEY~8~1&mi=33&trs=60

eric

pre 8 godina

getting kosovo back is the same as getting Constantinople back to rome LOL aint gone happen, times change, ethnographics change by migration and of course it will continue to change in the future deal with it. how in the right mind you want 2 million Albanians under serbian rule hahaha i mean you have to be living in another planet lol

boom

pre 8 godina

Finally, reality is starting to sink in our politicians minds.
Kosovo is populated in absolute majority by Albanians.
I would agree that Kosovo would have a better management if it was under Serbia but that divorce is consumed now and Milosevic did irreparable damage to our relations.
On the other hand, imagine we got Kosovo back, Serbia will become a bilingual country with Albanian having equal status ( that will create some jobs), our parliament will be mostly paralyzed as no government can get majority without the Albanians, and if claims that Kosovo birthrate is higher than ours are true, overtime the whole of Serbia will start to look like Kosovo.
Not that I have anything against this, but I don't see our society ready for cohabitation with Kosovars on equal basis, (there were some times under Tito that I am nostalgic as we truly lived in harmony with each other in Kosovo, but it did not last because of hated politicians in Belgrade)
So, better recognize the divorce, stop living in denial, let the healing begin and move on with life.

Brian

pre 8 godina

According to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia recognizes Kosovo independence. Vucic is also talking about a Kosovo independence referendum.

Free

pre 8 godina

I don`t get it, why is this "happimess" about Kossovo Indipendence from some Albanian comments? That happened de juro 7 years amd de facto 16 years ago. Why "abusing" with the tolerance of the host?

Is every problem solved with Kosovo Indipendence? I don`t think so.
More than recognition from Belgrade, Kosovo needs to be a real country, with a real economy. Amd this is not going to happen unnless Serb Kosovars, especially in Northern Kosovo decide to be incorporated in Kosovo.

And the only way for Northern Kosovo to stop being a "big ghetto" like it is till now, is to be incorporated in Kosovo.

So Albanian Kosovars` future is in Serb Kosovars` hands, and Serbs` Kosovar future is in Albanian Kosovars` hands.

Interferings from both Albania and Serbia are only worsening Kosovars` life, both Albanian and Serb.

There is no turning back under Serbia`s rule, there is no Union with Albania. Simple and plain.

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

There are Serbs and Albanians on here who make
stupid, hateful comments.
Here is the challenge to all of you.
Lets see anybody come up with a solution which will be accepted by both Serbs and Albanians.

I think en exchange of North Kosovo for Preshevo valley would be the best solution.

I bet you anything Serbs and Albanians on here will argue this is not a good solution.

It's easy to just run your mouth unfortunately Balkan does not have shortage of Idiots, but lets see if you will be able to come up with good solution.

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a strong statement from Dacic. Distancing himself from Nikolic, saying he had nothing to do with his ridiculous idea of partitioning Kosovo without offering anything in return. And that Nikolic lives in dreams basically. And at the same time implying that Vucic does not agree with Nikolic either. Finally, reminding Vucic (a veiled threat) that Tadic cannot replace Dacic in the majority in parliament. This is only what appears on the surface at least. One has to hand it to him, he is an able politician.

Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 1 June 2015 09:08)
If Russia is the 'fair" state that you believe then why Russia accept the "massacre" of Armenians in the WWI, and don't accept the massacres that Serbia have done against innocent Albanians in the WWI. ( AND - for not talking for the massacres in Kroatia, Bosnia and Kosovo during the 1990 -1999 ).
If Russia will be that kind of state then be sure that it will be the leader in world...
But if your "judgement" is unjust then you become "distrust" - and that happened to Russia.
Russia always have covered Serbs in their wrong actions an crimes against all the neighbors, for this reason they have not yet paid for what they had done. For this reason, they continue to be arrogant towards those that they have caused more "pain" and 'hate".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

icj

pre 8 godina

So this agreement that Serbia is supposed to sign isn't even being drafted with Serbia's input? It's just another diktat from Brussels that Serbia's gov't has already pre-approved.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

You just had this epiphany?! Of course the EU will tell Serbia what it needs to do in order to join the EU. It's Serbia that has asked to join, not vice versa. If Serbia does not like the conditions, then don't join - simple as that.
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What Serbia does have in Kosovo-Metohija is legality, a handful of Serb enclaves, ancient Serbian Monasteries and documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing.
(Ari Gold, 29 May 2015 10:27)

I love it when people like you make absolute statements which can be easily shown to be a lie. A person I know in Kosovo-Metohija has built a house with his money. So, there is, at least, one thing standing which was not built with Serbian taxpayer $$$ - so your statement about "documented billions of Serbian taxpayer $$$ to build everything else you see standing" is a lie :)

Advice: Give yourself a way out in the future by using words such as "most", "majority", etc... absolute words like "always", "all", "everything" can be easily shown to be a lie and you become a liar haha

Free

pre 8 godina

An exchange of Presevo with Northern Kosovo is unacceptable for 3 reasons:

1. Serbia can not accept to lose Presevo which is a motorway "A1" Thessaloniki-Skopje-Beograd-Budapest. And on the other hand the Serb people will not be happy to give something which is theirs in exchange for something which they pretend ownership.

2. Kosovo con not afford to lose Northern Kosovo or will lose too much of its resources (hydro and mine resorces). And Albanian Kosovars will not accept to exchange Northern Kosovo which they pretend to own for Presevo which they pretend to have the right of ownership too.

3. EU will not accept any exchange on ethnic motivation for two simple reasons, EU doesn`t like a "pure ethnic state solution" because it`s building an Multiethnic-Super-State.

The only solution is collaboration. Practically erasing the borders. And this is going to happen, sooner or latter.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Maybe it could be the time for a referendum about the recognition of Kosovo. Anyway, regardless of the result I'm not interested in having good relations with albanians. What Milosevic did them was horrible but the loss of Kosovo is a wound that will remain opened in the serbian society for centuries. We must not forget it.
(ive, 31 May 2015 12:48)

Kosova - was our wound.
The Kosova people are not serbs, so i don't understand... Your wound....???
And we still can not forget the crimes you did to obtain Kosova...
While you lose time thinking about Kosova, is better to think if 'tomorrow" in Vojvodina will come a "nationalist" who will demand the same thing as Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo ... etc ..... ... then what you will do?
Can you answer to me?
I hope that you have learned from Kosovo conflict, and don't do the same error twice...
But, i'm sure just for one thing : You are "paying" and will continue to "pay" for what you have done.
Only "God" knows how many innocent blood you have shed for those lands, so "he" can not forget.
He couldn't!