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Thursday, 14.05.2015.

09:32

"Greater Albania is key security risk"

The chairman of the Committee on Security Services Control believes that the key security risk faced by Serbia is "realization of the Greater Albania project."

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Joni

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I give to you 3 reasons why you are not an Albanian:
1. presevo will be gone - is considered as first.
2. Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone ? - hahaa as an Albanian is the first time i hear about this in all my life.
3. part of Italy also - are you ok ? What happened to your brain?
If your the intention is to fluster some "brains", then you forgot Bosnia, there are some Bosnians here in B92.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...What about "small albania" with kosovo going to serbia and south albania going to greece. 34
(Gotsefromohrid, 14 May 2015 22:19)...
If Albania and Kosovo go with Serbia are you ready to accept Hashim Thaci as Foreign Minister of Serbia and Edi Rama as President or Minister of Defense of Serbia?
If the answer is NO than don't talk BS.

South Albania 98% Albanians 1.5% Greeks.Only 89 villages with greek minority.
Why this part of Albania which as u see is very homogenous with Albanians should go to Greece?

It looks that Serbs have no clue about Albania and Albanians.
What an ignorance!
Open history books before u talk...

Avni

pre 8 godina

Yet still nothing about wars Serbia waged to create greater Serbia. How the mighty fall and then tell us lies daily to protect their behinds scared of the courts. They were brave only when they killed women and children, unarmed men and elderly.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I don't know? You don't strike me as Albanian! Maybe Ari, Peggy or mike c? No its RATko, no its nenad, no no, its drago dogubovich, maybe bullwinkle?

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 14 May 2015 17:47)

LOL Albanians and their provokacija!! I think Milosevic is the biggest security risk in the Balkans. The Hague forgot to make sure he didn't take any special powers with him before they murdered him. And now he's provoking the Albanians to act in Macedonia. Thanks Milosevic you always gotta ruin everything.

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

Once again as 100 year before the russians are using the serbs to create another conflict in the balkans. Now the WORLD THREAT has become Greater Albania.. I guess for us albanians this ugly propoganda is the price we have to pay for being a USA ally. You know whar: we're willing to pay it even more if necessary. But the question is are you serbs willing to pay the price for being a russian ally.. it's a heavy burden you know.. You excperieced it during the nineties , it didnt went so well for you .....

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

........ These areas are known to the police. The fact that these people took a border police station some days before make me think that their trafficking routes were blocked by the government and they reacted in this way. It's as simple as that. This has nothing to do with patriotism. It is just a "criminal affair".

What i've been reading these days by some russian media and serb ones , is that the west is trying to block the turkish pipeline by using albanians fighters to block it. At the same time i read the news that even your President Nikolic is not in favor of this pipeline. So is the west using your President too or is he just offering himslef to do the job for free.. :)

If it's true that we albanians are fighting to block a pipeline that the USA and the EU doesn't want.. than it's also true that you guys are fighting against us to protect it for the Russians. So we have 2 blokcs here the Euroatlantic one and the "Putin block" with their respective regional players.

Russia as I see it, is using serbs and Serbia that are known for being the russian "blak hand" in the balkans for centuries, to create an orthodoxs alliance against the west especially the USA, justifying it with the false pretension that the west is trying to create "Greater Albania". Laughable. .........

albania

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

The serbian anti-albanian propaganda never dies. Even in Yogoslavia when albanians wanted schools in albanian languaege to be open, this was considered a provocation and an albanian nationalist extremist request. Now a police operation goes wrong against a criminal group that had many contacts in the macedonian government and probably had some criminal affair going wrong between them, is presented as a step towards the creation of Great Albania. No one really knows for sure what happend that day, but for sure this cannot be considered a "terrorist attack" because these guys didn't attack no one, they were sleeping when the police surrounded them. They just reacted against the police like some criminals do when surronded by the police. The differece in this case is that this people had war experience and the fight became very brutal to the point that even military personel were called in. Now if you want to create an incident with albanians in that part of the country is very easy. These areas are used for smuggling and traffiking of all kinds and the houses are used as depos etc. and they're protected by guards with all kind of arms and with war experience. If you go there with police rest assured that you'll have a reaction. Continues..

Mark

pre 8 godina

"Greater Albania is key security risk"

Say the serbs who went to war against Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians,and Albanians in the name of Greater Serbia. Say the serbs who brought Republika Srpska a creature born out of genocide.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.
(Jeff, 14 May 2015 17:01)....

A friendly advice for this "Serbian" whose name is Jeff!
Try to think outside of your narrow mind who is full of hatred for Albanians.
Is something fishy with Kumanovo events.
Internal Minister of FYROM just resigned after the Kumanovo events along with the head of Secret service. Why did they resign when they should celebrate the victory against "terrorists"?

Accusing the barber of the neighborhood as terrorist, killing an 8 year old girl, arresting a 3 year old kid is a "great" success of Mankeydonia police.

Furthermore along with wiretapping that Internal Ministry and Secret Service was in constant communication with "terrorists", tell another story.
The one that Gurevski to deflect attention from his scandals to Albanians.
You can not surround a 40 thousand people district and start shooting without warning and without knowing the exact location of "terrorists".
What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.

Luigi

pre 8 godina

It is very funny for an Italian this "Great Albania" danger..
Can someone explain me how a country with a non-esistent army (Albania) make war to other country that are bigger and more powerful ?
Total non sense only useful for domestic policy...

can you read between the lines?

pre 8 godina

Now lets see, if we make sure to promote the fear and hatred of the possibility of a "greater Albania" then no one is focusing on job losses, decrease in pensions, elevation of taxes, the overwhelming travel of politicians (ever realize that every time Dacic, Vucic, Nikolic travels the Serb taxpayer is paying every penny for travel, lodging, meals and gratuities, of not only these but their support staff), usurpation of private lands for public use to support foreign investments.etc etc.
Have to wonder what happened to all the land that was usurped for the building of south stream, was it returned to the rightful owners or is it by chance up for sale for a profit??

For our safety and security we need to abandon all other thoughts and focus on elimination of the threat of a "greater Albania"
Don't worry that it is only being mentioned in Serbian press by Serbian leaders, and not really perceived as a true threat by anyone else.

Of Course it is

pre 8 godina

Thats funny. You are asking us to suspend our logic to support your statement.

Natural Albania is Greater Albania.

So this is clearly a case of double standards.

If there is allowed to be a Natural Albania, then there can also be a Natural Serbia (2.5 million serbs living in Bosina, Hercegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro).

And there can then be a Natural Croatia too. Last I heard ther were 500,000 of them living in Bosnia and Hercegovina who long for the motherland.

If we did some research i guess we could find a whole bunch of other places around the workd where this can happen too! And the we can all make some more international precedents and further confuse the world situation :)

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander is an old English saying.

Please stop bringing up Milosevic. It's boring. He's dead. We dont really give a s--t about him or his policies. Never did. New people. new thinking. new policies. Get used to it.

Demi

pre 8 godina

Oh those evil Albanians wanting to take over The world....

Serbia is a propaganda machine of its own kind! They allways have their science fiction paranoia storys.

Natural Albania is not an threat to anyone. Greater Serbia is judging by the 90,s when Serbia attacked all their neighbours in former Yugoslavia. So Serbia is Balkans biggest security threat.

XD

pre 8 godina

I am amazed at the quality of the lies spread openly without shame from the Serbian politicians. The greater Albania project is invented by the Belgrade politicians. For heavens sakes have you no shame. How many wars were started in the name of the greater Serbia, how many lives were ruined in the name of greater Serbia. Check the facts before you throw mud around.

The project of greater Albania does not exist either in Kosovo or Albania. The Albanian politicians are unable and unwilling to consent to such a plan becauase of their own lucrative interests. However the greater powers are realizing that Kosovo may not stand on its own and are pushing hard for the unification of Albania and Kosovo to occur in the not very distant future. The unification will occur peacefully and it will integrate two nations into one nation without any bloodshed. Again the greatest security risk to the entire region is Serbia and its distuburbing appetitite for absorbing neighboring lands in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. Serbias constant appetite at the expense of the neighbors is great source of instability and security threat to the region. This is exactly why you have the NATO troops station in Kosovo to protect the local population from the Serbian army. Therefore to counter this threat Albania and Kosovo must unite and together they will act as a counter threat to Serbia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

No, Greater/Natural/Ethnic/Autochthonous Albania is nothing more than Wishful Thinking on the Internet Albania. It might get a few of the children of expats living in Western Europe and North America a momentary thrill and a chance to utter some partially comprehensible "Albania Stronk!" statement, but like Greater X project, it's an imagined community. Serbia needs to stop with this paranoia especially when Albanians are leaving their allegedly "autochthonous" regions by the thousands for hopes of a better life elsewhere.

of course it is

pre 8 godina

Of Course it is. The same old boring script.
And it is just a matter of time until the countries in the region "shun" it.

When they call on the phone, no one will pick up. When they knock on the door, no one will answer. When they see each other on the street, they'll walk across the street just to avoid meeting and speaking.

The EU can talk about good neighborly relations all it wants, but it cant legislate against the above. No other country in the region is in support of this and it is predictable tha they will align against it in silent ways (even is larger powers seek to push it though). There will be so much energy expended to try and enforce food neighborly relations.

The GDP of Natural Albania is only 40% of current Serbia and an even smaller fraction of the region. Economically speaking, it is not a sustainable endeavor. Greater "anything" needs much more economic might to even sustain. If anyone in the region wants to be greater, then go and grow your economy and "greater" will follow. It would appear that only Serbia (and maybe Croatia) has such prospects.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Albo, well they shouldn't be harbouring terrorists, which is what they were doing. They were fed and sheltered by these people. And as a consequence their houses were destroyed in the fight. Tough.

Albo

pre 8 godina

This good wind for Serbian sails. I am surprised everyone is talking about terrorism and no one has the decency to talk about women and children terrorized by Macedonian police. No one speaks about people's houses leveled down ( https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10421253_998728700138044_7013213263196619881_n.jpg?oh=23d4ea67389149adb88f9f849be1ceb6&oe=55D7124D )by the Macedonian special forces. Guess who are the terrorists here? Shame on you people. Shame on the Albanian government as well for trying to be "politically correct" on the account of Albanian lives.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

These terrorists have support from some quarters and they need to be exposed. If not support, then at least acquiescence. CIA, BND, MI6, who knows. But someone is turning a blind eye to Albanian terrorism.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I'm not an analyst here..
But, even a child understand this is not in Albanian favor.
Such a statements from Serbian government i really think they create tensions between us and our neighbors.
It's out of the mind that Albania a Nato member to go to war, and violate the integrity of other neighboring countries.
Albania now, is in the middle of "one trouble" that she not decide to create. The Great Powers who created this in 1912 - 13 had not consider that some people are not made to live together.
Now..., Albania have not problems with minority.
And if neighboring country have problems with the ethnic Albanians in their country Albania can not resolve the "internal affairs" of the others.
The Albanian government has been "quite measured" in Macedonia case.
Macedonia's internal affairs should be resolved by itself.
All i must tell is that these countries can't "press" and discriminate the ethnic Albanians just for the "fear" of the G.Albania.
This is the wrong way!
Those people should feel in their own "country" and love it.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

These terrorists have support from some quarters and they need to be exposed. If not support, then at least acquiescence. CIA, BND, MI6, who knows. But someone is turning a blind eye to Albanian terrorism.

Albo

pre 8 godina

This good wind for Serbian sails. I am surprised everyone is talking about terrorism and no one has the decency to talk about women and children terrorized by Macedonian police. No one speaks about people's houses leveled down ( https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10421253_998728700138044_7013213263196619881_n.jpg?oh=23d4ea67389149adb88f9f849be1ceb6&oe=55D7124D )by the Macedonian special forces. Guess who are the terrorists here? Shame on you people. Shame on the Albanian government as well for trying to be "politically correct" on the account of Albanian lives.

Demi

pre 8 godina

Oh those evil Albanians wanting to take over The world....

Serbia is a propaganda machine of its own kind! They allways have their science fiction paranoia storys.

Natural Albania is not an threat to anyone. Greater Serbia is judging by the 90,s when Serbia attacked all their neighbours in former Yugoslavia. So Serbia is Balkans biggest security threat.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I'm not an analyst here..
But, even a child understand this is not in Albanian favor.
Such a statements from Serbian government i really think they create tensions between us and our neighbors.
It's out of the mind that Albania a Nato member to go to war, and violate the integrity of other neighboring countries.
Albania now, is in the middle of "one trouble" that she not decide to create. The Great Powers who created this in 1912 - 13 had not consider that some people are not made to live together.
Now..., Albania have not problems with minority.
And if neighboring country have problems with the ethnic Albanians in their country Albania can not resolve the "internal affairs" of the others.
The Albanian government has been "quite measured" in Macedonia case.
Macedonia's internal affairs should be resolved by itself.
All i must tell is that these countries can't "press" and discriminate the ethnic Albanians just for the "fear" of the G.Albania.
This is the wrong way!
Those people should feel in their own "country" and love it.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Albo, well they shouldn't be harbouring terrorists, which is what they were doing. They were fed and sheltered by these people. And as a consequence their houses were destroyed in the fight. Tough.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.
(Jeff, 14 May 2015 17:01)....

A friendly advice for this "Serbian" whose name is Jeff!
Try to think outside of your narrow mind who is full of hatred for Albanians.
Is something fishy with Kumanovo events.
Internal Minister of FYROM just resigned after the Kumanovo events along with the head of Secret service. Why did they resign when they should celebrate the victory against "terrorists"?

Accusing the barber of the neighborhood as terrorist, killing an 8 year old girl, arresting a 3 year old kid is a "great" success of Mankeydonia police.

Furthermore along with wiretapping that Internal Ministry and Secret Service was in constant communication with "terrorists", tell another story.
The one that Gurevski to deflect attention from his scandals to Albanians.
You can not surround a 40 thousand people district and start shooting without warning and without knowing the exact location of "terrorists".
What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.

Avni

pre 8 godina

Yet still nothing about wars Serbia waged to create greater Serbia. How the mighty fall and then tell us lies daily to protect their behinds scared of the courts. They were brave only when they killed women and children, unarmed men and elderly.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

No, Greater/Natural/Ethnic/Autochthonous Albania is nothing more than Wishful Thinking on the Internet Albania. It might get a few of the children of expats living in Western Europe and North America a momentary thrill and a chance to utter some partially comprehensible "Albania Stronk!" statement, but like Greater X project, it's an imagined community. Serbia needs to stop with this paranoia especially when Albanians are leaving their allegedly "autochthonous" regions by the thousands for hopes of a better life elsewhere.

XD

pre 8 godina

I am amazed at the quality of the lies spread openly without shame from the Serbian politicians. The greater Albania project is invented by the Belgrade politicians. For heavens sakes have you no shame. How many wars were started in the name of the greater Serbia, how many lives were ruined in the name of greater Serbia. Check the facts before you throw mud around.

The project of greater Albania does not exist either in Kosovo or Albania. The Albanian politicians are unable and unwilling to consent to such a plan becauase of their own lucrative interests. However the greater powers are realizing that Kosovo may not stand on its own and are pushing hard for the unification of Albania and Kosovo to occur in the not very distant future. The unification will occur peacefully and it will integrate two nations into one nation without any bloodshed. Again the greatest security risk to the entire region is Serbia and its distuburbing appetitite for absorbing neighboring lands in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. Serbias constant appetite at the expense of the neighbors is great source of instability and security threat to the region. This is exactly why you have the NATO troops station in Kosovo to protect the local population from the Serbian army. Therefore to counter this threat Albania and Kosovo must unite and together they will act as a counter threat to Serbia.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...What about "small albania" with kosovo going to serbia and south albania going to greece. 34
(Gotsefromohrid, 14 May 2015 22:19)...
If Albania and Kosovo go with Serbia are you ready to accept Hashim Thaci as Foreign Minister of Serbia and Edi Rama as President or Minister of Defense of Serbia?
If the answer is NO than don't talk BS.

South Albania 98% Albanians 1.5% Greeks.Only 89 villages with greek minority.
Why this part of Albania which as u see is very homogenous with Albanians should go to Greece?

It looks that Serbs have no clue about Albania and Albanians.
What an ignorance!
Open history books before u talk...

Rocky

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I don't know? You don't strike me as Albanian! Maybe Ari, Peggy or mike c? No its RATko, no its nenad, no no, its drago dogubovich, maybe bullwinkle?

Luigi

pre 8 godina

It is very funny for an Italian this "Great Albania" danger..
Can someone explain me how a country with a non-esistent army (Albania) make war to other country that are bigger and more powerful ?
Total non sense only useful for domestic policy...

Of Course it is

pre 8 godina

Thats funny. You are asking us to suspend our logic to support your statement.

Natural Albania is Greater Albania.

So this is clearly a case of double standards.

If there is allowed to be a Natural Albania, then there can also be a Natural Serbia (2.5 million serbs living in Bosina, Hercegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro).

And there can then be a Natural Croatia too. Last I heard ther were 500,000 of them living in Bosnia and Hercegovina who long for the motherland.

If we did some research i guess we could find a whole bunch of other places around the workd where this can happen too! And the we can all make some more international precedents and further confuse the world situation :)

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander is an old English saying.

Please stop bringing up Milosevic. It's boring. He's dead. We dont really give a s--t about him or his policies. Never did. New people. new thinking. new policies. Get used to it.

can you read between the lines?

pre 8 godina

Now lets see, if we make sure to promote the fear and hatred of the possibility of a "greater Albania" then no one is focusing on job losses, decrease in pensions, elevation of taxes, the overwhelming travel of politicians (ever realize that every time Dacic, Vucic, Nikolic travels the Serb taxpayer is paying every penny for travel, lodging, meals and gratuities, of not only these but their support staff), usurpation of private lands for public use to support foreign investments.etc etc.
Have to wonder what happened to all the land that was usurped for the building of south stream, was it returned to the rightful owners or is it by chance up for sale for a profit??

For our safety and security we need to abandon all other thoughts and focus on elimination of the threat of a "greater Albania"
Don't worry that it is only being mentioned in Serbian press by Serbian leaders, and not really perceived as a true threat by anyone else.

Mark

pre 8 godina

"Greater Albania is key security risk"

Say the serbs who went to war against Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians,and Albanians in the name of Greater Serbia. Say the serbs who brought Republika Srpska a creature born out of genocide.

Joni

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I give to you 3 reasons why you are not an Albanian:
1. presevo will be gone - is considered as first.
2. Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone ? - hahaa as an Albanian is the first time i hear about this in all my life.
3. part of Italy also - are you ok ? What happened to your brain?
If your the intention is to fluster some "brains", then you forgot Bosnia, there are some Bosnians here in B92.

of course it is

pre 8 godina

Of Course it is. The same old boring script.
And it is just a matter of time until the countries in the region "shun" it.

When they call on the phone, no one will pick up. When they knock on the door, no one will answer. When they see each other on the street, they'll walk across the street just to avoid meeting and speaking.

The EU can talk about good neighborly relations all it wants, but it cant legislate against the above. No other country in the region is in support of this and it is predictable tha they will align against it in silent ways (even is larger powers seek to push it though). There will be so much energy expended to try and enforce food neighborly relations.

The GDP of Natural Albania is only 40% of current Serbia and an even smaller fraction of the region. Economically speaking, it is not a sustainable endeavor. Greater "anything" needs much more economic might to even sustain. If anyone in the region wants to be greater, then go and grow your economy and "greater" will follow. It would appear that only Serbia (and maybe Croatia) has such prospects.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

Once again as 100 year before the russians are using the serbs to create another conflict in the balkans. Now the WORLD THREAT has become Greater Albania.. I guess for us albanians this ugly propoganda is the price we have to pay for being a USA ally. You know whar: we're willing to pay it even more if necessary. But the question is are you serbs willing to pay the price for being a russian ally.. it's a heavy burden you know.. You excperieced it during the nineties , it didnt went so well for you .....

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

The serbian anti-albanian propaganda never dies. Even in Yogoslavia when albanians wanted schools in albanian languaege to be open, this was considered a provocation and an albanian nationalist extremist request. Now a police operation goes wrong against a criminal group that had many contacts in the macedonian government and probably had some criminal affair going wrong between them, is presented as a step towards the creation of Great Albania. No one really knows for sure what happend that day, but for sure this cannot be considered a "terrorist attack" because these guys didn't attack no one, they were sleeping when the police surrounded them. They just reacted against the police like some criminals do when surronded by the police. The differece in this case is that this people had war experience and the fight became very brutal to the point that even military personel were called in. Now if you want to create an incident with albanians in that part of the country is very easy. These areas are used for smuggling and traffiking of all kinds and the houses are used as depos etc. and they're protected by guards with all kind of arms and with war experience. If you go there with police rest assured that you'll have a reaction. Continues..

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

........ These areas are known to the police. The fact that these people took a border police station some days before make me think that their trafficking routes were blocked by the government and they reacted in this way. It's as simple as that. This has nothing to do with patriotism. It is just a "criminal affair".

What i've been reading these days by some russian media and serb ones , is that the west is trying to block the turkish pipeline by using albanians fighters to block it. At the same time i read the news that even your President Nikolic is not in favor of this pipeline. So is the west using your President too or is he just offering himslef to do the job for free.. :)

If it's true that we albanians are fighting to block a pipeline that the USA and the EU doesn't want.. than it's also true that you guys are fighting against us to protect it for the Russians. So we have 2 blokcs here the Euroatlantic one and the "Putin block" with their respective regional players.

Russia as I see it, is using serbs and Serbia that are known for being the russian "blak hand" in the balkans for centuries, to create an orthodoxs alliance against the west especially the USA, justifying it with the false pretension that the west is trying to create "Greater Albania". Laughable. .........

albania

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 14 May 2015 17:47)

LOL Albanians and their provokacija!! I think Milosevic is the biggest security risk in the Balkans. The Hague forgot to make sure he didn't take any special powers with him before they murdered him. And now he's provoking the Albanians to act in Macedonia. Thanks Milosevic you always gotta ruin everything.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

These terrorists have support from some quarters and they need to be exposed. If not support, then at least acquiescence. CIA, BND, MI6, who knows. But someone is turning a blind eye to Albanian terrorism.

Albo

pre 8 godina

This good wind for Serbian sails. I am surprised everyone is talking about terrorism and no one has the decency to talk about women and children terrorized by Macedonian police. No one speaks about people's houses leveled down ( https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10421253_998728700138044_7013213263196619881_n.jpg?oh=23d4ea67389149adb88f9f849be1ceb6&oe=55D7124D )by the Macedonian special forces. Guess who are the terrorists here? Shame on you people. Shame on the Albanian government as well for trying to be "politically correct" on the account of Albanian lives.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I'm not an analyst here..
But, even a child understand this is not in Albanian favor.
Such a statements from Serbian government i really think they create tensions between us and our neighbors.
It's out of the mind that Albania a Nato member to go to war, and violate the integrity of other neighboring countries.
Albania now, is in the middle of "one trouble" that she not decide to create. The Great Powers who created this in 1912 - 13 had not consider that some people are not made to live together.
Now..., Albania have not problems with minority.
And if neighboring country have problems with the ethnic Albanians in their country Albania can not resolve the "internal affairs" of the others.
The Albanian government has been "quite measured" in Macedonia case.
Macedonia's internal affairs should be resolved by itself.
All i must tell is that these countries can't "press" and discriminate the ethnic Albanians just for the "fear" of the G.Albania.
This is the wrong way!
Those people should feel in their own "country" and love it.

Demi

pre 8 godina

Oh those evil Albanians wanting to take over The world....

Serbia is a propaganda machine of its own kind! They allways have their science fiction paranoia storys.

Natural Albania is not an threat to anyone. Greater Serbia is judging by the 90,s when Serbia attacked all their neighbours in former Yugoslavia. So Serbia is Balkans biggest security threat.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Albo, well they shouldn't be harbouring terrorists, which is what they were doing. They were fed and sheltered by these people. And as a consequence their houses were destroyed in the fight. Tough.

XD

pre 8 godina

I am amazed at the quality of the lies spread openly without shame from the Serbian politicians. The greater Albania project is invented by the Belgrade politicians. For heavens sakes have you no shame. How many wars were started in the name of the greater Serbia, how many lives were ruined in the name of greater Serbia. Check the facts before you throw mud around.

The project of greater Albania does not exist either in Kosovo or Albania. The Albanian politicians are unable and unwilling to consent to such a plan becauase of their own lucrative interests. However the greater powers are realizing that Kosovo may not stand on its own and are pushing hard for the unification of Albania and Kosovo to occur in the not very distant future. The unification will occur peacefully and it will integrate two nations into one nation without any bloodshed. Again the greatest security risk to the entire region is Serbia and its distuburbing appetitite for absorbing neighboring lands in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. Serbias constant appetite at the expense of the neighbors is great source of instability and security threat to the region. This is exactly why you have the NATO troops station in Kosovo to protect the local population from the Serbian army. Therefore to counter this threat Albania and Kosovo must unite and together they will act as a counter threat to Serbia.

Luigi

pre 8 godina

It is very funny for an Italian this "Great Albania" danger..
Can someone explain me how a country with a non-esistent army (Albania) make war to other country that are bigger and more powerful ?
Total non sense only useful for domestic policy...

of course it is

pre 8 godina

Of Course it is. The same old boring script.
And it is just a matter of time until the countries in the region "shun" it.

When they call on the phone, no one will pick up. When they knock on the door, no one will answer. When they see each other on the street, they'll walk across the street just to avoid meeting and speaking.

The EU can talk about good neighborly relations all it wants, but it cant legislate against the above. No other country in the region is in support of this and it is predictable tha they will align against it in silent ways (even is larger powers seek to push it though). There will be so much energy expended to try and enforce food neighborly relations.

The GDP of Natural Albania is only 40% of current Serbia and an even smaller fraction of the region. Economically speaking, it is not a sustainable endeavor. Greater "anything" needs much more economic might to even sustain. If anyone in the region wants to be greater, then go and grow your economy and "greater" will follow. It would appear that only Serbia (and maybe Croatia) has such prospects.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.

albania

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

No, Greater/Natural/Ethnic/Autochthonous Albania is nothing more than Wishful Thinking on the Internet Albania. It might get a few of the children of expats living in Western Europe and North America a momentary thrill and a chance to utter some partially comprehensible "Albania Stronk!" statement, but like Greater X project, it's an imagined community. Serbia needs to stop with this paranoia especially when Albanians are leaving their allegedly "autochthonous" regions by the thousands for hopes of a better life elsewhere.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 14 May 2015 17:47)

LOL Albanians and their provokacija!! I think Milosevic is the biggest security risk in the Balkans. The Hague forgot to make sure he didn't take any special powers with him before they murdered him. And now he's provoking the Albanians to act in Macedonia. Thanks Milosevic you always gotta ruin everything.

Of Course it is

pre 8 godina

Thats funny. You are asking us to suspend our logic to support your statement.

Natural Albania is Greater Albania.

So this is clearly a case of double standards.

If there is allowed to be a Natural Albania, then there can also be a Natural Serbia (2.5 million serbs living in Bosina, Hercegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro).

And there can then be a Natural Croatia too. Last I heard ther were 500,000 of them living in Bosnia and Hercegovina who long for the motherland.

If we did some research i guess we could find a whole bunch of other places around the workd where this can happen too! And the we can all make some more international precedents and further confuse the world situation :)

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander is an old English saying.

Please stop bringing up Milosevic. It's boring. He's dead. We dont really give a s--t about him or his policies. Never did. New people. new thinking. new policies. Get used to it.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Luigi, they just gave you an example in Kumanovo. Then provoke a response, maybe throw in a false flag, then go crying to the Americans to steal more land for them.
(Jeff, 14 May 2015 17:01)....

A friendly advice for this "Serbian" whose name is Jeff!
Try to think outside of your narrow mind who is full of hatred for Albanians.
Is something fishy with Kumanovo events.
Internal Minister of FYROM just resigned after the Kumanovo events along with the head of Secret service. Why did they resign when they should celebrate the victory against "terrorists"?

Accusing the barber of the neighborhood as terrorist, killing an 8 year old girl, arresting a 3 year old kid is a "great" success of Mankeydonia police.

Furthermore along with wiretapping that Internal Ministry and Secret Service was in constant communication with "terrorists", tell another story.
The one that Gurevski to deflect attention from his scandals to Albanians.
You can not surround a 40 thousand people district and start shooting without warning and without knowing the exact location of "terrorists".
What Monkeydonia police did was provoking Albanians, to divert attention of people who were angry with Gurevski.

can you read between the lines?

pre 8 godina

Now lets see, if we make sure to promote the fear and hatred of the possibility of a "greater Albania" then no one is focusing on job losses, decrease in pensions, elevation of taxes, the overwhelming travel of politicians (ever realize that every time Dacic, Vucic, Nikolic travels the Serb taxpayer is paying every penny for travel, lodging, meals and gratuities, of not only these but their support staff), usurpation of private lands for public use to support foreign investments.etc etc.
Have to wonder what happened to all the land that was usurped for the building of south stream, was it returned to the rightful owners or is it by chance up for sale for a profit??

For our safety and security we need to abandon all other thoughts and focus on elimination of the threat of a "greater Albania"
Don't worry that it is only being mentioned in Serbian press by Serbian leaders, and not really perceived as a true threat by anyone else.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...What about "small albania" with kosovo going to serbia and south albania going to greece. 34
(Gotsefromohrid, 14 May 2015 22:19)...
If Albania and Kosovo go with Serbia are you ready to accept Hashim Thaci as Foreign Minister of Serbia and Edi Rama as President or Minister of Defense of Serbia?
If the answer is NO than don't talk BS.

South Albania 98% Albanians 1.5% Greeks.Only 89 villages with greek minority.
Why this part of Albania which as u see is very homogenous with Albanians should go to Greece?

It looks that Serbs have no clue about Albania and Albanians.
What an ignorance!
Open history books before u talk...

Joni

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I give to you 3 reasons why you are not an Albanian:
1. presevo will be gone - is considered as first.
2. Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone ? - hahaa as an Albanian is the first time i hear about this in all my life.
3. part of Italy also - are you ok ? What happened to your brain?
If your the intention is to fluster some "brains", then you forgot Bosnia, there are some Bosnians here in B92.

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

The serbian anti-albanian propaganda never dies. Even in Yogoslavia when albanians wanted schools in albanian languaege to be open, this was considered a provocation and an albanian nationalist extremist request. Now a police operation goes wrong against a criminal group that had many contacts in the macedonian government and probably had some criminal affair going wrong between them, is presented as a step towards the creation of Great Albania. No one really knows for sure what happend that day, but for sure this cannot be considered a "terrorist attack" because these guys didn't attack no one, they were sleeping when the police surrounded them. They just reacted against the police like some criminals do when surronded by the police. The differece in this case is that this people had war experience and the fight became very brutal to the point that even military personel were called in. Now if you want to create an incident with albanians in that part of the country is very easy. These areas are used for smuggling and traffiking of all kinds and the houses are used as depos etc. and they're protected by guards with all kind of arms and with war experience. If you go there with police rest assured that you'll have a reaction. Continues..

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

........ These areas are known to the police. The fact that these people took a border police station some days before make me think that their trafficking routes were blocked by the government and they reacted in this way. It's as simple as that. This has nothing to do with patriotism. It is just a "criminal affair".

What i've been reading these days by some russian media and serb ones , is that the west is trying to block the turkish pipeline by using albanians fighters to block it. At the same time i read the news that even your President Nikolic is not in favor of this pipeline. So is the west using your President too or is he just offering himslef to do the job for free.. :)

If it's true that we albanians are fighting to block a pipeline that the USA and the EU doesn't want.. than it's also true that you guys are fighting against us to protect it for the Russians. So we have 2 blokcs here the Euroatlantic one and the "Putin block" with their respective regional players.

Russia as I see it, is using serbs and Serbia that are known for being the russian "blak hand" in the balkans for centuries, to create an orthodoxs alliance against the west especially the USA, justifying it with the false pretension that the west is trying to create "Greater Albania". Laughable. .........

Avni

pre 8 godina

Yet still nothing about wars Serbia waged to create greater Serbia. How the mighty fall and then tell us lies daily to protect their behinds scared of the courts. They were brave only when they killed women and children, unarmed men and elderly.

Mark

pre 8 godina

"Greater Albania is key security risk"

Say the serbs who went to war against Slovenians,Croatians,Bosnians,and Albanians in the name of Greater Serbia. Say the serbs who brought Republika Srpska a creature born out of genocide.

We're great anyway

pre 8 godina

Once again as 100 year before the russians are using the serbs to create another conflict in the balkans. Now the WORLD THREAT has become Greater Albania.. I guess for us albanians this ugly propoganda is the price we have to pay for being a USA ally. You know whar: we're willing to pay it even more if necessary. But the question is are you serbs willing to pay the price for being a russian ally.. it's a heavy burden you know.. You excperieced it during the nineties , it didnt went so well for you .....

Rocky

pre 8 godina

great Albanian is going to happen if you like it are not....preshovo will be gone half of Macedonia will be gone,part of Greece will be gone, Kosovo is gone, part of Montenegro will be gone and then to Croatia in 10 years parts will be gone also....part of Italy also......there is nothing your all going to do about it ....your just going to talk on the net and nothing more....like always just talk and say no its not going to happen just like Kosovo ;p.......nobody is going to stop this ......we got the backing of America ;p.......nobody else matters.......nobody cares about America but we know who they will support..
(albania, 14 May 2015 18:11)

I don't know? You don't strike me as Albanian! Maybe Ari, Peggy or mike c? No its RATko, no its nenad, no no, its drago dogubovich, maybe bullwinkle?