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Friday, 01.05.2015.

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Thaci says he wants Serbia "to apologize"

Hashim Thaci has said that he is "seeking an apology from Serbia for the victims of the war in Kosovo in the 1990s."

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RK

pre 8 godina

I think there’s too much noise about Thaci’s latest statements because :

1/ There’s full consensus in the Albanian societies about Serbia and KiM and anybody else would behave similar if not worse. But the Snake is an absolutely discredited person and if replaced by someone with no blood on his hand may only strengthen Albanian negotiation positions. So I believe that this man (no matter if we love him or hate) is the best candidate for the Serbians and the worst after Haradianai for the Albanians. It is exactly why Putin left Saakashvili at the state power once. Because with the Russophobe hysteria any other Georgian could much worse.

2/ KiM is a colony of the USA where the UCK gangs rule under the CIA direct commands. So all the latest provocations starting with the football match cannot be Albanian ideas. Because the USA is the only side interested in keeping the tense high. Most likely this time Serbia is not the main target. Looks like the final goal is the Turkish Stream. But it must go through Macedonia and Greece that both became closer to Russia. Especially Macedonia whose economic problems are just peanuts for Russia but whose Albanian minority may destabilize the situation.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

@Nikolle,

With all due respect, cut the crap. You're not one of the regular trolls around here and despite our differences I tend to respect your opinion more than roll my eyes at it, but when push comes to shove, you'll retreat behind party lines. Yes, Albanians have a sanitized history, like everyone in the Balkans has a sanitized history, but at the risk of pointing out the problems of Albanians yet again, they love to pontificate about justice and reconciliation while not lifting a finger to find one perpetrator of any crime committed against Serbs since 1999. They love to play the victim card and throw out the work "genocide" like a verbal tick, but the minute the challenge is put forward for them to act like the morally superior people they think they are, they play the "our crimes pale in comparison to your crimes" card.

You know what? Serbs have acknowledged Srebrenica. It would be pretty damn hard to deny it. So spare me the moral platitudes you have comparing your lack of savagery from the 1990s because the only thing that prevent that from happening is your lack of resources and organization. Left to their own devices, Kosovo Albanians would have chased every last Serb out of Kosovo had it not been for the international community covering your tracks, protecting your leaders, and attempting to divert crimes from reaching judicial circles. Serbs seem to have less problems facing "facts" than Albanians ever could.

Ilir

pre 8 godina

"Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo? "

What's strange? Very simple really, Serbia should had arrested Tony Blair during his visit to Serbia only a few weeks ago according to their own warrant for his arrest. By the way Tony Blair is one of Serbia's PM advisers today. Serbia should also seek to arrest Bill Clinton and Havier Solana who was at the time the man in charge of NATO which bombed Serbia. Both Mr. Seselj and Mr. Mladic have been before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague for their crimes committed and convicted!None of KLA higher command has been fund guilty and Serbia has never provided a single prove to their allegations.

There is only one thing strange here. Why an earth Thaci waste his time calling on Serbia conscience? Serb establishment cannot distinguish right from wrong and their moral judgment, values or norms are light years away from those of South Africa.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Are there any Kosovar-Albanian expats or nationals residing in my country who desire seeking reparations from Serbia? If so why doesn't Hashim Thaci mention that?

resident of Fredericton,NB,Canada

pre 8 godina

Where it's mentioned in this news article that Hashim Thaci claims that hundreds of Kosovar-Albanians residing in Europe and United States are seeking reparations from Serbia the question is what about Kosvar-Albanian expats residing in my country? Aren't they as well seeking reparations from Serbia?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace."

I love this sentence. The insinuation here is that Albanian refusal to admit to their crimes is the reason for there being no peace. Sunshine, you yourself admitted that Serbs have done worse, so, where is the contrition for that? I mean, call me old fashioned, but it seems to me, that those whose crimes are bigger are those who have to apologise more. I could me wrong, but that's my philosophy. I also never excused crimes that Albanians have committed, I said that Serbs have done worse. That is not to make excuses, that is to state a fact. As for Sloba being sent to the Hague, sunshine it is not the fault of Albanians that the Hague does not issue proceedings against Thaci. If Serbia has the evidence, let it pursue legal charges. Serbia has that option, why does it not utilise it? Instead what Serbian state officials do, is play a double game, one where to Serbian audiences they brand Thaci a criminal, a thug, a murderer. Put them in front of international diplomats and especially European Western European ones and all those epithets are forgotten. So forgotten in fact that if those pictures of Dacic and Thaci are to be taken at face value, they probably even share private jokes with him. Bizarre no?

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

What Thaci says is irrelevant.

What I want to know is why Belgrade did not shut down the Serbia office of the Youth NGO for inviting Thaci to Serbia. NGO = Non Governmental Orgamnization. It clearly stepped far, far over the line, whether at the orders of some smart assed British pricklomat or not, it should either be chut down or have all political elements removed. If that means the British government withdrawing funding (it is their project they also fund in Bosnia), then so be it.

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

@(Vladimir, 1 May 2015 19:02)
“retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo.”


So how does your brilliant plan works, if some how you are able to get Kosovo back what would you do.
1. Mistreat and terrorize Albanians like Millosevic did?
2. Kill or dislocate all Kosovo Albanians?
3. Not give them the basic rights, the same thing you are doing with Albanians in Presevo Valley ?
As much as you’re crying about it, I don’t think you can reoccupy Kosovo back.
But even if you do somehow, you wouldn't know what to do with it.
You have tried everything: killing, dislocation by force, torture, manipulation, assimilation, nothing has worked so far, what would you do different this time?
When the forceful Marriage it’s not working, perhaps divorce is the best option.

j

pre 8 godina

Can the Serb commenters stop speaking in the name of Albanian victims? We still have mass graves being unearthed in Serbia. Enough with the fake concerns.

Second - The apology has nothing to do with claiming moral superiority. It has all to do with the fact that the Serbian state sponsored the killing of its own civilian citizens and committed a second crime by hijacking their remains and burying them in mass graves under multistory buildings in Serbia. The third crime was committed when it refused for years to dig these mass graves and unearth the remains of the victims. This has been documented. Any half decent state, and half decent human being who represents that state would go to that grave site and apologize for these crimes, committed in the name of the state and its citizenry. Serbia is no decent state, and neither are the people leading it. Hopefully one day this will change.
It has to do that Serbia and the Serbs did all the killing in Kosova. There were Serb tanks in Prishtina. There were no Albanian tanks in Belgrade. That alone is reason enough for Serbia to take the first step. It will not happen when Milosevic's right hand men(Vucic, Dacic, Nikolic) rule Serbia for they would be admitting to being part of the crime.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 8 godina

Ahhh Mr Thaci, demanding an apology from Serbia even though his great grandfather was a Serb (a common know fact in his hometown of Srbica).

10,000 killed? I thought it was 200,000? Please get your facts straight on how many were killed. With different figures like that, I begin to suspect that these massacres were a fairy tale haha!

j

pre 8 godina

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

--Actually your comparison is strange. All of those people gave the order to bomb Serbia. Tons and tons of bombs fell on Serbia because those people gave the order. You can twist things anyway you want and perform any sort of thought gymnastics you want. However, once you have Blair in Serbia, not only walking freely but being paid money from Serb taxpayers, all of the things you said above become pure nonsense and demagogy. If you are OK with the person who bombed buildings, bridges, TV stations in Serbia, then you have nothing on Thaci; other than being the usual Serb hypocrite.

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

-- Again with the gymnastics. Not the same. Ivanovic was arrested based on EU arrest warrants, not on Kosova issued ones. Ivanovic's warrant is recent. Thaci's warrant was issued by Milosevic's chronies. This is a clear case of Serbia being pissed off with the West and NATO but since it can't do anything to them, let's vent on Thaci.

Thaci played his cards right this time. His arrest warrant will become an issue when those EU chapters open for Serbia. He made sure they will.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...
(Roberto, 1 May 2015 21:02)

Not before you denazify your brain first!

Roberto

pre 8 godina

Kudos to Thaci, and well said! it is not that Serbia "apologize" (with the b92 quotes) but that Serbia apologize and pay personal reparations for all of its atrocities and massacres and rapes and cultural destruction in Kosova, for the mass killing of civilians and the cover-up of the genocide - not even to mention the continuing threats. There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...

cry me a river indeed

pre 8 godina

Sooner or later Serbia will pay for damages.
(cry me a river, 1 May 2015 18:37)

Yeah you keep waiting for that day to happen. No one gives a crap about Albanians and their delusions. Get a job and make money for once. The rest of Europe is tired of subsidizing you and your 18 kids.

Vladimir

pre 8 godina

I am Serbian, and I agree that Serbia should apologize. They should apologize for not capturing and arresting this Terrorist war criminal when they had the chance. Serbia should (if they haven't already) put the plans in place to retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo. Nato has overstayed their welcome, Albanians currently living in Kosovo should be offered amnesty (except for those in power today who KILLED, TERRORIZED, and have been under the control / command of foreign states. These people should be deemed enemies of the state and dealt with as such.

Its not the 1990's anymore and Serbia would NOT be alone if push came to shove. With a few S-400 triumph air defense systems along with long range ballistic / anti-ship missiles NO Nato country would dare get involved with that type of conflict. The only option that leaves is a ground invasion which would NEVER have public support. People are now much more aware that the wars of the 1990s in Balkans were planned / organized and executed by the CIA. A book has just recently been published by a top CIA agent gone rouge admitting that the entire Yugoslav conflict was based on a big lie.

So for that Mr. Thaci, Serbia owes you and apology. But, as they say... Better late than never! Serbia will once again, set things right.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Try as hard you might to portray yourself as some kind of moderate BA, your ultimateubetray. Apparently, Albanians have sanitised history. What, do you think its all lies or something? What I said is absolutely true, whatever crime Albanians are guilty of, the Serbs have done much worse. The proof for this is in the Hague, in mass graves currently being dug up inside Serbia proper. As for your other claim that if we made the first move you would soon follow, Serbia's conduct does not back this up. After all your leaders, still dispute Srebrenica. Also, however bad and unseemly the behavior in Gjakova is, its nothing compared to what happend in the 90's, which is what Thaci is referring to. My point has nothing to do with feeling morally superior, I state facts and they are easy to verify.

Aleks

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

And herein lies the problem with most of these Albanian posters, if not all. No matter what, there are always a hundred excuses to justify their crimes. What is worse than murdering someone then? It seems both sides did that. Is someone who killed ten men worse than someone who killed 6 men? As far as I can see, no, it's the same. The only reason Albanians did not kill more is because they were not able to, the Serbian side was the stronger side. The Albanians had every intent to do more harm, and if they could have, they would have. Ironically, the Serbs could have done much more damage to the Albanians had they wanted to. Albanians even justify their crimes on Serbs after the war as 'revenge', or 'they deserve it'. Ridiculous to say the least. It's all the same evil. If you rob my house, and I decide a month later to rob your house to 'get back at you', the cops will still arrest me. I can cry 'revenge' all I want, a judge will sentence me to jail. Same thing here.

Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace. Serbia sent Milosevic, Sesselj, etc to the Hague. Albanian war criminals are political figures in Kosovo hailed as heroes.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for murdering Serbian civilians and police officers as well as harvesting their organs and selling them on the black market.

Guest

pre 8 godina

I'm not a fan of Thaci, never have been.... But I have to admit that he nailed this interview. He said exactly what is happening in serbia. The Double Political standards Serbs are playing. One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

Good, so it shouldn't be all that hard for Europe's Youngest Democrats to start the ball rolling and apologize for the laundry list of "smaller" crimes against Serbs. You know, as a sign of good faith that they're really sincere about moving forward and not looking to score any points or codify their already sanitized version of historical events of the 1990s. After all, since Albanians love to portray themselves as morally superior to their neighbors to the north and east, this should be a no brainer. You can start your good faith by allowing Serb pilgrimages to Djakovica and cleaning up the cemetery in southern Mitrovica that keeps getting desecrated. Once Serbs see the sincerity in your actions, I have no doubt the overwhelming guilt will compel them to engage in a massive mea culpa.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)"

Not comparing like with like. Ivanovis is kept under arrest on EU orders, not Kosovo ones. If Kosovo had issued an arrest, he would have just laughed and goad the police to try and arrest him. Thaci's arrest warrant was issued by Serbia, tet for all that, Serbian state officials shake hands with him, laugh with him and goodness what else

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci
(Guest, 1 May 2015 16:09)

Actually, the one getting loads of cash from the EU is Serbia. The one playing the nationalist card like a little Erdogan is Kosovo and in specific, Thaci. You seem to have gotten your Balkan kleptocratic governments mixed up.

john

pre 8 godina

Serbia needs a major education of what atrocities were committed in their name across the former Yugoslavia, a sort of de-Nazification, because to live your life completely brainwashed by Milosevic propaganda is not good for a nation. It is not an international conspiracy against Serbia...the fact is Belgrade waged nasty wars and this is something the Serbian people need to accept and process if the country is to grow and move on.

vratnica

pre 8 godina

Apologize? to a criminal, terrorist? yeah right! your a criminal there is no apology for you Thaci! you keep forgetting how many Serbs as well as ordinary Albanians were killed as a result of your terrorist actions. You need to apologize to Serbia and the citizens of Kosovo for starting the violence.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for all the people you and your gang of "freedom fighters" murdered or ordered murdered. Serb, Albanian, or otherwise. You can apologize now to get the ball rolling, or you can apologize after most of your underlings are indicted in the special war crimes tribunal the EU wants set up for KLA fighters.

Stick to the script the US gives you.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Thaci "confirmed that Serbia issued a warrant for his arrest," and said this was the same as with Javier Solana, Tony Blair and Bill Clinton who were "accused of terrorism" and attacking Serbia (in 1999).

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for all the people you and your gang of "freedom fighters" murdered or ordered murdered. Serb, Albanian, or otherwise. You can apologize now to get the ball rolling, or you can apologize after most of your underlings are indicted in the special war crimes tribunal the EU wants set up for KLA fighters.

Stick to the script the US gives you.

vratnica

pre 8 godina

Apologize? to a criminal, terrorist? yeah right! your a criminal there is no apology for you Thaci! you keep forgetting how many Serbs as well as ordinary Albanians were killed as a result of your terrorist actions. You need to apologize to Serbia and the citizens of Kosovo for starting the violence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Thaci "confirmed that Serbia issued a warrant for his arrest," and said this was the same as with Javier Solana, Tony Blair and Bill Clinton who were "accused of terrorism" and attacking Serbia (in 1999).

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

john

pre 8 godina

Serbia needs a major education of what atrocities were committed in their name across the former Yugoslavia, a sort of de-Nazification, because to live your life completely brainwashed by Milosevic propaganda is not good for a nation. It is not an international conspiracy against Serbia...the fact is Belgrade waged nasty wars and this is something the Serbian people need to accept and process if the country is to grow and move on.

Guest

pre 8 godina

I'm not a fan of Thaci, never have been.... But I have to admit that he nailed this interview. He said exactly what is happening in serbia. The Double Political standards Serbs are playing. One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci

Vladimir

pre 8 godina

I am Serbian, and I agree that Serbia should apologize. They should apologize for not capturing and arresting this Terrorist war criminal when they had the chance. Serbia should (if they haven't already) put the plans in place to retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo. Nato has overstayed their welcome, Albanians currently living in Kosovo should be offered amnesty (except for those in power today who KILLED, TERRORIZED, and have been under the control / command of foreign states. These people should be deemed enemies of the state and dealt with as such.

Its not the 1990's anymore and Serbia would NOT be alone if push came to shove. With a few S-400 triumph air defense systems along with long range ballistic / anti-ship missiles NO Nato country would dare get involved with that type of conflict. The only option that leaves is a ground invasion which would NEVER have public support. People are now much more aware that the wars of the 1990s in Balkans were planned / organized and executed by the CIA. A book has just recently been published by a top CIA agent gone rouge admitting that the entire Yugoslav conflict was based on a big lie.

So for that Mr. Thaci, Serbia owes you and apology. But, as they say... Better late than never! Serbia will once again, set things right.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

Good, so it shouldn't be all that hard for Europe's Youngest Democrats to start the ball rolling and apologize for the laundry list of "smaller" crimes against Serbs. You know, as a sign of good faith that they're really sincere about moving forward and not looking to score any points or codify their already sanitized version of historical events of the 1990s. After all, since Albanians love to portray themselves as morally superior to their neighbors to the north and east, this should be a no brainer. You can start your good faith by allowing Serb pilgrimages to Djakovica and cleaning up the cemetery in southern Mitrovica that keeps getting desecrated. Once Serbs see the sincerity in your actions, I have no doubt the overwhelming guilt will compel them to engage in a massive mea culpa.

Aleks

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

And herein lies the problem with most of these Albanian posters, if not all. No matter what, there are always a hundred excuses to justify their crimes. What is worse than murdering someone then? It seems both sides did that. Is someone who killed ten men worse than someone who killed 6 men? As far as I can see, no, it's the same. The only reason Albanians did not kill more is because they were not able to, the Serbian side was the stronger side. The Albanians had every intent to do more harm, and if they could have, they would have. Ironically, the Serbs could have done much more damage to the Albanians had they wanted to. Albanians even justify their crimes on Serbs after the war as 'revenge', or 'they deserve it'. Ridiculous to say the least. It's all the same evil. If you rob my house, and I decide a month later to rob your house to 'get back at you', the cops will still arrest me. I can cry 'revenge' all I want, a judge will sentence me to jail. Same thing here.

Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace. Serbia sent Milosevic, Sesselj, etc to the Hague. Albanian war criminals are political figures in Kosovo hailed as heroes.

Roberto

pre 8 godina

Kudos to Thaci, and well said! it is not that Serbia "apologize" (with the b92 quotes) but that Serbia apologize and pay personal reparations for all of its atrocities and massacres and rapes and cultural destruction in Kosova, for the mass killing of civilians and the cover-up of the genocide - not even to mention the continuing threats. There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for murdering Serbian civilians and police officers as well as harvesting their organs and selling them on the black market.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)"

Not comparing like with like. Ivanovis is kept under arrest on EU orders, not Kosovo ones. If Kosovo had issued an arrest, he would have just laughed and goad the police to try and arrest him. Thaci's arrest warrant was issued by Serbia, tet for all that, Serbian state officials shake hands with him, laugh with him and goodness what else

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci
(Guest, 1 May 2015 16:09)

Actually, the one getting loads of cash from the EU is Serbia. The one playing the nationalist card like a little Erdogan is Kosovo and in specific, Thaci. You seem to have gotten your Balkan kleptocratic governments mixed up.

cry me a river indeed

pre 8 godina

Sooner or later Serbia will pay for damages.
(cry me a river, 1 May 2015 18:37)

Yeah you keep waiting for that day to happen. No one gives a crap about Albanians and their delusions. Get a job and make money for once. The rest of Europe is tired of subsidizing you and your 18 kids.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...
(Roberto, 1 May 2015 21:02)

Not before you denazify your brain first!

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

@(Vladimir, 1 May 2015 19:02)
“retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo.”


So how does your brilliant plan works, if some how you are able to get Kosovo back what would you do.
1. Mistreat and terrorize Albanians like Millosevic did?
2. Kill or dislocate all Kosovo Albanians?
3. Not give them the basic rights, the same thing you are doing with Albanians in Presevo Valley ?
As much as you’re crying about it, I don’t think you can reoccupy Kosovo back.
But even if you do somehow, you wouldn't know what to do with it.
You have tried everything: killing, dislocation by force, torture, manipulation, assimilation, nothing has worked so far, what would you do different this time?
When the forceful Marriage it’s not working, perhaps divorce is the best option.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Try as hard you might to portray yourself as some kind of moderate BA, your ultimateubetray. Apparently, Albanians have sanitised history. What, do you think its all lies or something? What I said is absolutely true, whatever crime Albanians are guilty of, the Serbs have done much worse. The proof for this is in the Hague, in mass graves currently being dug up inside Serbia proper. As for your other claim that if we made the first move you would soon follow, Serbia's conduct does not back this up. After all your leaders, still dispute Srebrenica. Also, however bad and unseemly the behavior in Gjakova is, its nothing compared to what happend in the 90's, which is what Thaci is referring to. My point has nothing to do with feeling morally superior, I state facts and they are easy to verify.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace."

I love this sentence. The insinuation here is that Albanian refusal to admit to their crimes is the reason for there being no peace. Sunshine, you yourself admitted that Serbs have done worse, so, where is the contrition for that? I mean, call me old fashioned, but it seems to me, that those whose crimes are bigger are those who have to apologise more. I could me wrong, but that's my philosophy. I also never excused crimes that Albanians have committed, I said that Serbs have done worse. That is not to make excuses, that is to state a fact. As for Sloba being sent to the Hague, sunshine it is not the fault of Albanians that the Hague does not issue proceedings against Thaci. If Serbia has the evidence, let it pursue legal charges. Serbia has that option, why does it not utilise it? Instead what Serbian state officials do, is play a double game, one where to Serbian audiences they brand Thaci a criminal, a thug, a murderer. Put them in front of international diplomats and especially European Western European ones and all those epithets are forgotten. So forgotten in fact that if those pictures of Dacic and Thaci are to be taken at face value, they probably even share private jokes with him. Bizarre no?

j

pre 8 godina

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

--Actually your comparison is strange. All of those people gave the order to bomb Serbia. Tons and tons of bombs fell on Serbia because those people gave the order. You can twist things anyway you want and perform any sort of thought gymnastics you want. However, once you have Blair in Serbia, not only walking freely but being paid money from Serb taxpayers, all of the things you said above become pure nonsense and demagogy. If you are OK with the person who bombed buildings, bridges, TV stations in Serbia, then you have nothing on Thaci; other than being the usual Serb hypocrite.

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

-- Again with the gymnastics. Not the same. Ivanovic was arrested based on EU arrest warrants, not on Kosova issued ones. Ivanovic's warrant is recent. Thaci's warrant was issued by Milosevic's chronies. This is a clear case of Serbia being pissed off with the West and NATO but since it can't do anything to them, let's vent on Thaci.

Thaci played his cards right this time. His arrest warrant will become an issue when those EU chapters open for Serbia. He made sure they will.

j

pre 8 godina

Can the Serb commenters stop speaking in the name of Albanian victims? We still have mass graves being unearthed in Serbia. Enough with the fake concerns.

Second - The apology has nothing to do with claiming moral superiority. It has all to do with the fact that the Serbian state sponsored the killing of its own civilian citizens and committed a second crime by hijacking their remains and burying them in mass graves under multistory buildings in Serbia. The third crime was committed when it refused for years to dig these mass graves and unearth the remains of the victims. This has been documented. Any half decent state, and half decent human being who represents that state would go to that grave site and apologize for these crimes, committed in the name of the state and its citizenry. Serbia is no decent state, and neither are the people leading it. Hopefully one day this will change.
It has to do that Serbia and the Serbs did all the killing in Kosova. There were Serb tanks in Prishtina. There were no Albanian tanks in Belgrade. That alone is reason enough for Serbia to take the first step. It will not happen when Milosevic's right hand men(Vucic, Dacic, Nikolic) rule Serbia for they would be admitting to being part of the crime.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 8 godina

Ahhh Mr Thaci, demanding an apology from Serbia even though his great grandfather was a Serb (a common know fact in his hometown of Srbica).

10,000 killed? I thought it was 200,000? Please get your facts straight on how many were killed. With different figures like that, I begin to suspect that these massacres were a fairy tale haha!

Ilir

pre 8 godina

"Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo? "

What's strange? Very simple really, Serbia should had arrested Tony Blair during his visit to Serbia only a few weeks ago according to their own warrant for his arrest. By the way Tony Blair is one of Serbia's PM advisers today. Serbia should also seek to arrest Bill Clinton and Havier Solana who was at the time the man in charge of NATO which bombed Serbia. Both Mr. Seselj and Mr. Mladic have been before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague for their crimes committed and convicted!None of KLA higher command has been fund guilty and Serbia has never provided a single prove to their allegations.

There is only one thing strange here. Why an earth Thaci waste his time calling on Serbia conscience? Serb establishment cannot distinguish right from wrong and their moral judgment, values or norms are light years away from those of South Africa.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

What Thaci says is irrelevant.

What I want to know is why Belgrade did not shut down the Serbia office of the Youth NGO for inviting Thaci to Serbia. NGO = Non Governmental Orgamnization. It clearly stepped far, far over the line, whether at the orders of some smart assed British pricklomat or not, it should either be chut down or have all political elements removed. If that means the British government withdrawing funding (it is their project they also fund in Bosnia), then so be it.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

@Nikolle,

With all due respect, cut the crap. You're not one of the regular trolls around here and despite our differences I tend to respect your opinion more than roll my eyes at it, but when push comes to shove, you'll retreat behind party lines. Yes, Albanians have a sanitized history, like everyone in the Balkans has a sanitized history, but at the risk of pointing out the problems of Albanians yet again, they love to pontificate about justice and reconciliation while not lifting a finger to find one perpetrator of any crime committed against Serbs since 1999. They love to play the victim card and throw out the work "genocide" like a verbal tick, but the minute the challenge is put forward for them to act like the morally superior people they think they are, they play the "our crimes pale in comparison to your crimes" card.

You know what? Serbs have acknowledged Srebrenica. It would be pretty damn hard to deny it. So spare me the moral platitudes you have comparing your lack of savagery from the 1990s because the only thing that prevent that from happening is your lack of resources and organization. Left to their own devices, Kosovo Albanians would have chased every last Serb out of Kosovo had it not been for the international community covering your tracks, protecting your leaders, and attempting to divert crimes from reaching judicial circles. Serbs seem to have less problems facing "facts" than Albanians ever could.

resident of Fredericton,NB,Canada

pre 8 godina

Where it's mentioned in this news article that Hashim Thaci claims that hundreds of Kosovar-Albanians residing in Europe and United States are seeking reparations from Serbia the question is what about Kosvar-Albanian expats residing in my country? Aren't they as well seeking reparations from Serbia?

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Are there any Kosovar-Albanian expats or nationals residing in my country who desire seeking reparations from Serbia? If so why doesn't Hashim Thaci mention that?

RK

pre 8 godina

I think there’s too much noise about Thaci’s latest statements because :

1/ There’s full consensus in the Albanian societies about Serbia and KiM and anybody else would behave similar if not worse. But the Snake is an absolutely discredited person and if replaced by someone with no blood on his hand may only strengthen Albanian negotiation positions. So I believe that this man (no matter if we love him or hate) is the best candidate for the Serbians and the worst after Haradianai for the Albanians. It is exactly why Putin left Saakashvili at the state power once. Because with the Russophobe hysteria any other Georgian could much worse.

2/ KiM is a colony of the USA where the UCK gangs rule under the CIA direct commands. So all the latest provocations starting with the football match cannot be Albanian ideas. Because the USA is the only side interested in keeping the tense high. Most likely this time Serbia is not the main target. Looks like the final goal is the Turkish Stream. But it must go through Macedonia and Greece that both became closer to Russia. Especially Macedonia whose economic problems are just peanuts for Russia but whose Albanian minority may destabilize the situation.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for all the people you and your gang of "freedom fighters" murdered or ordered murdered. Serb, Albanian, or otherwise. You can apologize now to get the ball rolling, or you can apologize after most of your underlings are indicted in the special war crimes tribunal the EU wants set up for KLA fighters.

Stick to the script the US gives you.

john

pre 8 godina

Serbia needs a major education of what atrocities were committed in their name across the former Yugoslavia, a sort of de-Nazification, because to live your life completely brainwashed by Milosevic propaganda is not good for a nation. It is not an international conspiracy against Serbia...the fact is Belgrade waged nasty wars and this is something the Serbian people need to accept and process if the country is to grow and move on.

Guest

pre 8 godina

I'm not a fan of Thaci, never have been.... But I have to admit that he nailed this interview. He said exactly what is happening in serbia. The Double Political standards Serbs are playing. One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)"

Not comparing like with like. Ivanovis is kept under arrest on EU orders, not Kosovo ones. If Kosovo had issued an arrest, he would have just laughed and goad the police to try and arrest him. Thaci's arrest warrant was issued by Serbia, tet for all that, Serbian state officials shake hands with him, laugh with him and goodness what else

Roberto

pre 8 godina

Kudos to Thaci, and well said! it is not that Serbia "apologize" (with the b92 quotes) but that Serbia apologize and pay personal reparations for all of its atrocities and massacres and rapes and cultural destruction in Kosova, for the mass killing of civilians and the cover-up of the genocide - not even to mention the continuing threats. There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...

vratnica

pre 8 godina

Apologize? to a criminal, terrorist? yeah right! your a criminal there is no apology for you Thaci! you keep forgetting how many Serbs as well as ordinary Albanians were killed as a result of your terrorist actions. You need to apologize to Serbia and the citizens of Kosovo for starting the violence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Thaci "confirmed that Serbia issued a warrant for his arrest," and said this was the same as with Javier Solana, Tony Blair and Bill Clinton who were "accused of terrorism" and attacking Serbia (in 1999).

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

Good, so it shouldn't be all that hard for Europe's Youngest Democrats to start the ball rolling and apologize for the laundry list of "smaller" crimes against Serbs. You know, as a sign of good faith that they're really sincere about moving forward and not looking to score any points or codify their already sanitized version of historical events of the 1990s. After all, since Albanians love to portray themselves as morally superior to their neighbors to the north and east, this should be a no brainer. You can start your good faith by allowing Serb pilgrimages to Djakovica and cleaning up the cemetery in southern Mitrovica that keeps getting desecrated. Once Serbs see the sincerity in your actions, I have no doubt the overwhelming guilt will compel them to engage in a massive mea culpa.

Vladimir

pre 8 godina

I am Serbian, and I agree that Serbia should apologize. They should apologize for not capturing and arresting this Terrorist war criminal when they had the chance. Serbia should (if they haven't already) put the plans in place to retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo. Nato has overstayed their welcome, Albanians currently living in Kosovo should be offered amnesty (except for those in power today who KILLED, TERRORIZED, and have been under the control / command of foreign states. These people should be deemed enemies of the state and dealt with as such.

Its not the 1990's anymore and Serbia would NOT be alone if push came to shove. With a few S-400 triumph air defense systems along with long range ballistic / anti-ship missiles NO Nato country would dare get involved with that type of conflict. The only option that leaves is a ground invasion which would NEVER have public support. People are now much more aware that the wars of the 1990s in Balkans were planned / organized and executed by the CIA. A book has just recently been published by a top CIA agent gone rouge admitting that the entire Yugoslav conflict was based on a big lie.

So for that Mr. Thaci, Serbia owes you and apology. But, as they say... Better late than never! Serbia will once again, set things right.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

One 8s looking forward to European Union and getting loads of cash, the other one is trying to play its nationalist cards with its neighbors. Well done Thaci
(Guest, 1 May 2015 16:09)

Actually, the one getting loads of cash from the EU is Serbia. The one playing the nationalist card like a little Erdogan is Kosovo and in specific, Thaci. You seem to have gotten your Balkan kleptocratic governments mixed up.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Sure, right after you apologize for murdering Serbian civilians and police officers as well as harvesting their organs and selling them on the black market.

cry me a river indeed

pre 8 godina

Sooner or later Serbia will pay for damages.
(cry me a river, 1 May 2015 18:37)

Yeah you keep waiting for that day to happen. No one gives a crap about Albanians and their delusions. Get a job and make money for once. The rest of Europe is tired of subsidizing you and your 18 kids.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Try as hard you might to portray yourself as some kind of moderate BA, your ultimateubetray. Apparently, Albanians have sanitised history. What, do you think its all lies or something? What I said is absolutely true, whatever crime Albanians are guilty of, the Serbs have done much worse. The proof for this is in the Hague, in mass graves currently being dug up inside Serbia proper. As for your other claim that if we made the first move you would soon follow, Serbia's conduct does not back this up. After all your leaders, still dispute Srebrenica. Also, however bad and unseemly the behavior in Gjakova is, its nothing compared to what happend in the 90's, which is what Thaci is referring to. My point has nothing to do with feeling morally superior, I state facts and they are easy to verify.

ALB U KOS

pre 8 godina

@(Vladimir, 1 May 2015 19:02)
“retake ALL NATO occupied territories of Serbia. Meaning Kosovo.”


So how does your brilliant plan works, if some how you are able to get Kosovo back what would you do.
1. Mistreat and terrorize Albanians like Millosevic did?
2. Kill or dislocate all Kosovo Albanians?
3. Not give them the basic rights, the same thing you are doing with Albanians in Presevo Valley ?
As much as you’re crying about it, I don’t think you can reoccupy Kosovo back.
But even if you do somehow, you wouldn't know what to do with it.
You have tried everything: killing, dislocation by force, torture, manipulation, assimilation, nothing has worked so far, what would you do different this time?
When the forceful Marriage it’s not working, perhaps divorce is the best option.

Aleks

pre 8 godina

You know what, whatever crimes Albanians may have committed against Serbs, the heavenly people still have done worse.
(Nikolle, 1 May 2015 15:39)

And herein lies the problem with most of these Albanian posters, if not all. No matter what, there are always a hundred excuses to justify their crimes. What is worse than murdering someone then? It seems both sides did that. Is someone who killed ten men worse than someone who killed 6 men? As far as I can see, no, it's the same. The only reason Albanians did not kill more is because they were not able to, the Serbian side was the stronger side. The Albanians had every intent to do more harm, and if they could have, they would have. Ironically, the Serbs could have done much more damage to the Albanians had they wanted to. Albanians even justify their crimes on Serbs after the war as 'revenge', or 'they deserve it'. Ridiculous to say the least. It's all the same evil. If you rob my house, and I decide a month later to rob your house to 'get back at you', the cops will still arrest me. I can cry 'revenge' all I want, a judge will sentence me to jail. Same thing here.

Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace. Serbia sent Milosevic, Sesselj, etc to the Hague. Albanian war criminals are political figures in Kosovo hailed as heroes.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 8 godina

Ahhh Mr Thaci, demanding an apology from Serbia even though his great grandfather was a Serb (a common know fact in his hometown of Srbica).

10,000 killed? I thought it was 200,000? Please get your facts straight on how many were killed. With different figures like that, I begin to suspect that these massacres were a fairy tale haha!

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"Until the Albanians finally come out and admit their crimes, their responsibility, and the fact that leaders like Thaci are indeed war criminals, then there will never be peace."

I love this sentence. The insinuation here is that Albanian refusal to admit to their crimes is the reason for there being no peace. Sunshine, you yourself admitted that Serbs have done worse, so, where is the contrition for that? I mean, call me old fashioned, but it seems to me, that those whose crimes are bigger are those who have to apologise more. I could me wrong, but that's my philosophy. I also never excused crimes that Albanians have committed, I said that Serbs have done worse. That is not to make excuses, that is to state a fact. As for Sloba being sent to the Hague, sunshine it is not the fault of Albanians that the Hague does not issue proceedings against Thaci. If Serbia has the evidence, let it pursue legal charges. Serbia has that option, why does it not utilise it? Instead what Serbian state officials do, is play a double game, one where to Serbian audiences they brand Thaci a criminal, a thug, a murderer. Put them in front of international diplomats and especially European Western European ones and all those epithets are forgotten. So forgotten in fact that if those pictures of Dacic and Thaci are to be taken at face value, they probably even share private jokes with him. Bizarre no?

RK

pre 8 godina

I think there’s too much noise about Thaci’s latest statements because :

1/ There’s full consensus in the Albanian societies about Serbia and KiM and anybody else would behave similar if not worse. But the Snake is an absolutely discredited person and if replaced by someone with no blood on his hand may only strengthen Albanian negotiation positions. So I believe that this man (no matter if we love him or hate) is the best candidate for the Serbians and the worst after Haradianai for the Albanians. It is exactly why Putin left Saakashvili at the state power once. Because with the Russophobe hysteria any other Georgian could much worse.

2/ KiM is a colony of the USA where the UCK gangs rule under the CIA direct commands. So all the latest provocations starting with the football match cannot be Albanian ideas. Because the USA is the only side interested in keeping the tense high. Most likely this time Serbia is not the main target. Looks like the final goal is the Turkish Stream. But it must go through Macedonia and Greece that both became closer to Russia. Especially Macedonia whose economic problems are just peanuts for Russia but whose Albanian minority may destabilize the situation.

j

pre 8 godina

Can the Serb commenters stop speaking in the name of Albanian victims? We still have mass graves being unearthed in Serbia. Enough with the fake concerns.

Second - The apology has nothing to do with claiming moral superiority. It has all to do with the fact that the Serbian state sponsored the killing of its own civilian citizens and committed a second crime by hijacking their remains and burying them in mass graves under multistory buildings in Serbia. The third crime was committed when it refused for years to dig these mass graves and unearth the remains of the victims. This has been documented. Any half decent state, and half decent human being who represents that state would go to that grave site and apologize for these crimes, committed in the name of the state and its citizenry. Serbia is no decent state, and neither are the people leading it. Hopefully one day this will change.
It has to do that Serbia and the Serbs did all the killing in Kosova. There were Serb tanks in Prishtina. There were no Albanian tanks in Belgrade. That alone is reason enough for Serbia to take the first step. It will not happen when Milosevic's right hand men(Vucic, Dacic, Nikolic) rule Serbia for they would be admitting to being part of the crime.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

What Thaci says is irrelevant.

What I want to know is why Belgrade did not shut down the Serbia office of the Youth NGO for inviting Thaci to Serbia. NGO = Non Governmental Orgamnization. It clearly stepped far, far over the line, whether at the orders of some smart assed British pricklomat or not, it should either be chut down or have all political elements removed. If that means the British government withdrawing funding (it is their project they also fund in Bosnia), then so be it.

Ilir

pre 8 godina

"Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo? "

What's strange? Very simple really, Serbia should had arrested Tony Blair during his visit to Serbia only a few weeks ago according to their own warrant for his arrest. By the way Tony Blair is one of Serbia's PM advisers today. Serbia should also seek to arrest Bill Clinton and Havier Solana who was at the time the man in charge of NATO which bombed Serbia. Both Mr. Seselj and Mr. Mladic have been before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague for their crimes committed and convicted!None of KLA higher command has been fund guilty and Serbia has never provided a single prove to their allegations.

There is only one thing strange here. Why an earth Thaci waste his time calling on Serbia conscience? Serb establishment cannot distinguish right from wrong and their moral judgment, values or norms are light years away from those of South Africa.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

There is a very strong need for de-Nazification within Serbian society and especially Serbian media. And the beat goes on...
(Roberto, 1 May 2015 21:02)

Not before you denazify your brain first!

j

pre 8 godina

Strange comparison. Unlike Mr Snake, none of the mentioned persons was a leader of the KLA terrorist group a.k.a 'freedom fighters'. Would Thaci allow Mr. Seselj or Mr. Mladic to visit Kosovo?

--Actually your comparison is strange. All of those people gave the order to bomb Serbia. Tons and tons of bombs fell on Serbia because those people gave the order. You can twist things anyway you want and perform any sort of thought gymnastics you want. However, once you have Blair in Serbia, not only walking freely but being paid money from Serb taxpayers, all of the things you said above become pure nonsense and demagogy. If you are OK with the person who bombed buildings, bridges, TV stations in Serbia, then you have nothing on Thaci; other than being the usual Serb hypocrite.

If you consider the arrest warrant against Thaci politically motivated, then the same goes for the arrest of Ivanovic (how many months is he in prison without being pout in front of court so far?)

-- Again with the gymnastics. Not the same. Ivanovic was arrested based on EU arrest warrants, not on Kosova issued ones. Ivanovic's warrant is recent. Thaci's warrant was issued by Milosevic's chronies. This is a clear case of Serbia being pissed off with the West and NATO but since it can't do anything to them, let's vent on Thaci.

Thaci played his cards right this time. His arrest warrant will become an issue when those EU chapters open for Serbia. He made sure they will.

resident of Fredericton,NB,Canada

pre 8 godina

Where it's mentioned in this news article that Hashim Thaci claims that hundreds of Kosovar-Albanians residing in Europe and United States are seeking reparations from Serbia the question is what about Kosvar-Albanian expats residing in my country? Aren't they as well seeking reparations from Serbia?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

@Nikolle,

With all due respect, cut the crap. You're not one of the regular trolls around here and despite our differences I tend to respect your opinion more than roll my eyes at it, but when push comes to shove, you'll retreat behind party lines. Yes, Albanians have a sanitized history, like everyone in the Balkans has a sanitized history, but at the risk of pointing out the problems of Albanians yet again, they love to pontificate about justice and reconciliation while not lifting a finger to find one perpetrator of any crime committed against Serbs since 1999. They love to play the victim card and throw out the work "genocide" like a verbal tick, but the minute the challenge is put forward for them to act like the morally superior people they think they are, they play the "our crimes pale in comparison to your crimes" card.

You know what? Serbs have acknowledged Srebrenica. It would be pretty damn hard to deny it. So spare me the moral platitudes you have comparing your lack of savagery from the 1990s because the only thing that prevent that from happening is your lack of resources and organization. Left to their own devices, Kosovo Albanians would have chased every last Serb out of Kosovo had it not been for the international community covering your tracks, protecting your leaders, and attempting to divert crimes from reaching judicial circles. Serbs seem to have less problems facing "facts" than Albanians ever could.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 8 godina

Are there any Kosovar-Albanian expats or nationals residing in my country who desire seeking reparations from Serbia? If so why doesn't Hashim Thaci mention that?