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Wednesday, 22.04.2015.

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Albanian group claims responsibility for attack on police

A group calling itself the National Liberation Army (Albanian: UCK) has claimed responsibility for <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=21&nav_id=93868" class="text-link" target= "_blank">Tuesday's incident</a> in the Macedonian village of Gosnice.

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Ilir

pre 9 godina

@Amnesty Yugoslavia

Well, from those 108 who have recognized us, 22 are EU countries which is almost 4 times as much as the ones who have not recognized us (only 6 ) and who are much MUCH more powerful than those 6 mentioned. So, they will also have a "saying" or two !

About the fact that Serbia considers Kosovo as part of it's territory... Well, even your politicians know that that is not true. All your neighbors know that that is not true. Hungary,Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia and Montenegro have all recognized us. I'm sure Bosnia would also love to do that but they are afraid they can get some crisis from the Serbian minority.

And, as for the last part, I totally do agree with you. Nationalism is a super-strong tool to make people brainwashed and take their attention away from the real problems that they face. Both of our countries have so much poverty, unemployment, crime , etc, and we "suddenly" have a lot of nationalists (just remember the stadium where ALBANIA* was playing against Serbia, everybody in chorus asking for raping and killing and the Albanian nationals throwing stones to the serbian people). WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

As always, I do send warm regards to all peace-loving people in the planet Earth, no matter the nationality. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

PEACE !!!

Joni

pre 9 godina

Can somebody arrest this idiots??
Please..., do this favour to all Albanians people, to yourself and to the humanity...
Or it have to many politicians involved... Pffft

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 April 2015 04:27) Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

---

According to Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Greece and Cyprus, yes, they all sit on the Council and their unanimous votes are required.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo.
---

The countries you speak of do not decide for the EU. It is unlikely that a large EU country like Spain will provide you the recognition that you desperately seek.

---
(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues.

Your hope is misplaced in many ways. 1:Serbia considers KiM a part of its territory. 2: The border (stupid in your words) is actually being erected and enforced by the organization that you're crying to join and claim will solve your problems.

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33)However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. ....Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land.

One aspect of geopolitics : The front place of some countries is actually dependent on your instability. Perhaps it is in a superpower's interest to deny you stability? Nationalism serves many purposes and masters.

Truth

pre 9 godina

When everything is said and done, the police has no explanation What happened to the "40 Albanian Terrorist" who came to Macedonia in 2 cars.

40 gun men, have armed, in 2 cars. It could happen, maybe the cars were expendable who knows, right?

The police said: "The gun man returned back to Kosovo".
But no explanation how they escaped back to Kosovo, The police fully knowing the situation how were they able to escape?

I came up with 3 theories.

1. The "Albanian Terrorist" had supernatural powers and they flew like Superman.

2. Maybe their expendable cars could fly as well.

or

3. Maybe they were ghost.

Here is another, more realistic theory.

Maybe they were paid by Gruevski to create tensions.
My last theory is actually reported in various media channels in Macedonia.
But you can not expect this to happen on B92 or other Serbian media, no that would not be realistic.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 April 2015 16:58)

Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

Mick

pre 9 godina

B92... I have another interesting story for you

albanians planning a terrorist attack in Australia

http://m.independent.mk/articles/16621/Albanian+from+Macedonia+Leader+of+Islamist+Group+Arrested+in+Melbourne

Ilir

pre 9 godina

@AmnestyYugosl
Hello there,

By peace I meant stability in our countries. Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo. That would be stupid and will just not happen. I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues .

I love Balkan culture, and I think we really are intelligent and people with great potential. I have visited many countries in the world (with my Republic of Kosovo passport ) and I can freely tell you that WE DO HAVE POTENTIAL. I know MANY very intelligent guys around. However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. And we need to do it as soon as possible. I do believe in peace. I know it will take some time, but I just hope my kids will not read articles like "Big Albania, Big Kosovo, Big Serbia, Big Macedonia" or such stupid things. SCIENCE is the real nationalism nowadays. The sooner our people will understand that the better. Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land !!! We would be feeling STUPID.
Anyway, I hope you understand my points a little better now. My main point is simple: PEACE .
Regards from Republic of Kosovo.
PEACE !!

Truth

pre 9 godina

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back.
(Ari Gold, 22 April 2015 18:21)

I'm glad you brought it up, because the lieder of SDSM Zoran Zaev has evidence those people were killed by the Gruevski administration this is precisely what the government is trying to hide. (Now I don't know the details but Zaev has promised he will published the recording the near future.)
We are all anxiously waiting to find out why they did this.
But Gruevski has paid criminal groups 2 million euros to pretend they are UCK fighter to stir up trouble and divert the attention of the public from the real problem.
How do I know they are not real criminal? very obvious.
1.The police have surrounded the village and has the village and police station under control, however they are not saying how they were able to get back the police station without firing a single shot.
2. What happened to those 40 fighters did they go back to Kosovo or got arrested or killed?

3. Why are they only allowing pro government media at the scene?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I think that Albania first will come for Kosovo and then Albanian populated provices in Montenegro,
then Macedonia,
and then for Albanians living in Greece.

A Greater Albania thst is.

Arn.Sweden.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
(Truth, 22 April 2015 13:11)

OK great. You want to remove your president. But what makes you so sure that this wasn't actually an attack by Albanian nationalists? If you really are from Macedonia, then you have seen this coming for quite a while now. http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/05.04skopjeprotesti01.jpg

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back. And the violent response the Albanian community gave when 5 of them were arrested for committing the murders. Then there were the missiles fired at the gov't buildings.

Hate your president all you want. But they are coming for you.

vratnica

pre 9 godina

Restless terrorists, Kosovo was not enough now your attacking Macedonia, move to Albania the poorest nation on earth and see how you like it, stop this violence once and for all the Albanians in Macedonia and Kosovo got along great all these years now the terrorist want to rule.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 12:07)We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace.
---

Dear Ilir,

I am confused. Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.

After following your past comments about the living conditions in the region, it is quite revealing to now read that you still have not achieved peace.

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

LOL that's rich, coming from someone who yesterday said "I guarantee Serbia had something to do with this incident just to destabilize the region yet again!" Don't try to squirm out of another embarrassing statement of yours by suddenly playing the objective high ground. You're one of the first people around here to shout all sorts of hate fill slurs against Serbs the second you click the comment tab.

You not only regularly jump the gun here bud, you don't even wait for the referee to enter the stadium. You're fooling no one with your calls for objectivism now that what you refused to believe yesterday was proven by your own media.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

You are a hypocrite. Where is your use of collective guilt when it applies to Albanians?

You always use sweeping generalizations and condemn all Serbs as being responsible therefore guilty.

Now, when 40 Albanians are involved, you use individual responsibility even making an effort to distance yourself.

Small man and a hypocrite.

Truth

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you have your head so far up your (you know what) it's not even funny.
Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
The only people in Macedonia who want trouble are Government officials (Macedonian and Albanian) who have committed crimes and don't want the truth to come out.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

This was just a scenario by Gruevski and his criminal party.

Just check what this ex-Macedonian general said some weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1JStgpe1Y

And, just so you guys know, I'm 100 % proud Albanian from Kosovo. I do love my country and my people but I am 100 % AGAINST the expansion of Albania or Kosovo. We already have 2 countries with Albanian majority and it'd be stupid to create another one. We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace. We, the normal* people in Republic of Kosovo do not want the expansion of Albania or joining Albania either. Fullstop !

PEACE !!

scepticism

pre 9 godina

It doesnt really matter who is really behind this idiotic show.

What matters is that this is one more indication that this so called country has serious problems that will inevitably lead to its dismantling.

It is about time for the government and the idiots involved in it to face the consequences of their actions. Unless they fly out with their private jets.

Unfortunately, ordinary people will also pay the price by being part of albania (for those albanians) or bulgaria (for those who are orthodox).

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud! Let's wait a second here, we are talking about a group consisting of 40 armed individuals that didn't kill no one yesterday? I stated yesterday that things didn't seem right with Albanians carrying out this attack & that Serbia along was most likely behind the incident, I continue to believe this! However even if I am wrong and it was truly carried out by Albanian individuals then this represents a splinter group that doesn't enjoy the support of large number of Albanians, they needs to be isolated and punished!!! Also wild like to get the detailed report on were the weapons and financial support is coming from! Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!

Albanian

pre 9 godina

So, when sh** hit the fan in Macedonia, they dI'd what to draw attention away form the real problems Macedonia is facing? a well though out plan, which is convenient temporarily. Macedonian government is buying time for now, and then what?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

calling for "mobilization against repression and discrimination of Albanians."

What repression? Can't we just say that Albanian settlers in ex-YU do not wish to live with non-Albanians, nor do they wish to go back to Albania either. We all thought Slobo was the problem, but he is long gone and yet the desire for Albanian expansion is still strong.

I've said Macedonia was next up. Albanian separatism is a common problem in the region, but Macedonia needs to repair its damaged relations with Greece and Serbia before they can even deal with the hell that is coming their way.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

calling for "mobilization against repression and discrimination of Albanians."

What repression? Can't we just say that Albanian settlers in ex-YU do not wish to live with non-Albanians, nor do they wish to go back to Albania either. We all thought Slobo was the problem, but he is long gone and yet the desire for Albanian expansion is still strong.

I've said Macedonia was next up. Albanian separatism is a common problem in the region, but Macedonia needs to repair its damaged relations with Greece and Serbia before they can even deal with the hell that is coming their way.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

You are a hypocrite. Where is your use of collective guilt when it applies to Albanians?

You always use sweeping generalizations and condemn all Serbs as being responsible therefore guilty.

Now, when 40 Albanians are involved, you use individual responsibility even making an effort to distance yourself.

Small man and a hypocrite.

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

LOL that's rich, coming from someone who yesterday said "I guarantee Serbia had something to do with this incident just to destabilize the region yet again!" Don't try to squirm out of another embarrassing statement of yours by suddenly playing the objective high ground. You're one of the first people around here to shout all sorts of hate fill slurs against Serbs the second you click the comment tab.

You not only regularly jump the gun here bud, you don't even wait for the referee to enter the stadium. You're fooling no one with your calls for objectivism now that what you refused to believe yesterday was proven by your own media.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
(Truth, 22 April 2015 13:11)

OK great. You want to remove your president. But what makes you so sure that this wasn't actually an attack by Albanian nationalists? If you really are from Macedonia, then you have seen this coming for quite a while now. http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/05.04skopjeprotesti01.jpg

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back. And the violent response the Albanian community gave when 5 of them were arrested for committing the murders. Then there were the missiles fired at the gov't buildings.

Hate your president all you want. But they are coming for you.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

It doesnt really matter who is really behind this idiotic show.

What matters is that this is one more indication that this so called country has serious problems that will inevitably lead to its dismantling.

It is about time for the government and the idiots involved in it to face the consequences of their actions. Unless they fly out with their private jets.

Unfortunately, ordinary people will also pay the price by being part of albania (for those albanians) or bulgaria (for those who are orthodox).

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 12:07)We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace.
---

Dear Ilir,

I am confused. Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.

After following your past comments about the living conditions in the region, it is quite revealing to now read that you still have not achieved peace.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

So, when sh** hit the fan in Macedonia, they dI'd what to draw attention away form the real problems Macedonia is facing? a well though out plan, which is convenient temporarily. Macedonian government is buying time for now, and then what?

Truth

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you have your head so far up your (you know what) it's not even funny.
Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
The only people in Macedonia who want trouble are Government officials (Macedonian and Albanian) who have committed crimes and don't want the truth to come out.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

This was just a scenario by Gruevski and his criminal party.

Just check what this ex-Macedonian general said some weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1JStgpe1Y

And, just so you guys know, I'm 100 % proud Albanian from Kosovo. I do love my country and my people but I am 100 % AGAINST the expansion of Albania or Kosovo. We already have 2 countries with Albanian majority and it'd be stupid to create another one. We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace. We, the normal* people in Republic of Kosovo do not want the expansion of Albania or joining Albania either. Fullstop !

PEACE !!

vratnica

pre 9 godina

Restless terrorists, Kosovo was not enough now your attacking Macedonia, move to Albania the poorest nation on earth and see how you like it, stop this violence once and for all the Albanians in Macedonia and Kosovo got along great all these years now the terrorist want to rule.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 April 2015 04:27) Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

---

According to Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Greece and Cyprus, yes, they all sit on the Council and their unanimous votes are required.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud! Let's wait a second here, we are talking about a group consisting of 40 armed individuals that didn't kill no one yesterday? I stated yesterday that things didn't seem right with Albanians carrying out this attack & that Serbia along was most likely behind the incident, I continue to believe this! However even if I am wrong and it was truly carried out by Albanian individuals then this represents a splinter group that doesn't enjoy the support of large number of Albanians, they needs to be isolated and punished!!! Also wild like to get the detailed report on were the weapons and financial support is coming from! Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!

Mick

pre 9 godina

B92... I have another interesting story for you

albanians planning a terrorist attack in Australia

http://m.independent.mk/articles/16621/Albanian+from+Macedonia+Leader+of+Islamist+Group+Arrested+in+Melbourne

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo.
---

The countries you speak of do not decide for the EU. It is unlikely that a large EU country like Spain will provide you the recognition that you desperately seek.

---
(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues.

Your hope is misplaced in many ways. 1:Serbia considers KiM a part of its territory. 2: The border (stupid in your words) is actually being erected and enforced by the organization that you're crying to join and claim will solve your problems.

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33)However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. ....Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land.

One aspect of geopolitics : The front place of some countries is actually dependent on your instability. Perhaps it is in a superpower's interest to deny you stability? Nationalism serves many purposes and masters.

Truth

pre 9 godina

When everything is said and done, the police has no explanation What happened to the "40 Albanian Terrorist" who came to Macedonia in 2 cars.

40 gun men, have armed, in 2 cars. It could happen, maybe the cars were expendable who knows, right?

The police said: "The gun man returned back to Kosovo".
But no explanation how they escaped back to Kosovo, The police fully knowing the situation how were they able to escape?

I came up with 3 theories.

1. The "Albanian Terrorist" had supernatural powers and they flew like Superman.

2. Maybe their expendable cars could fly as well.

or

3. Maybe they were ghost.

Here is another, more realistic theory.

Maybe they were paid by Gruevski to create tensions.
My last theory is actually reported in various media channels in Macedonia.
But you can not expect this to happen on B92 or other Serbian media, no that would not be realistic.

Truth

pre 9 godina

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back.
(Ari Gold, 22 April 2015 18:21)

I'm glad you brought it up, because the lieder of SDSM Zoran Zaev has evidence those people were killed by the Gruevski administration this is precisely what the government is trying to hide. (Now I don't know the details but Zaev has promised he will published the recording the near future.)
We are all anxiously waiting to find out why they did this.
But Gruevski has paid criminal groups 2 million euros to pretend they are UCK fighter to stir up trouble and divert the attention of the public from the real problem.
How do I know they are not real criminal? very obvious.
1.The police have surrounded the village and has the village and police station under control, however they are not saying how they were able to get back the police station without firing a single shot.
2. What happened to those 40 fighters did they go back to Kosovo or got arrested or killed?

3. Why are they only allowing pro government media at the scene?

Ilir

pre 9 godina

@AmnestyYugosl
Hello there,

By peace I meant stability in our countries. Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo. That would be stupid and will just not happen. I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues .

I love Balkan culture, and I think we really are intelligent and people with great potential. I have visited many countries in the world (with my Republic of Kosovo passport ) and I can freely tell you that WE DO HAVE POTENTIAL. I know MANY very intelligent guys around. However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. And we need to do it as soon as possible. I do believe in peace. I know it will take some time, but I just hope my kids will not read articles like "Big Albania, Big Kosovo, Big Serbia, Big Macedonia" or such stupid things. SCIENCE is the real nationalism nowadays. The sooner our people will understand that the better. Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land !!! We would be feeling STUPID.
Anyway, I hope you understand my points a little better now. My main point is simple: PEACE .
Regards from Republic of Kosovo.
PEACE !!

Joni

pre 9 godina

Can somebody arrest this idiots??
Please..., do this favour to all Albanians people, to yourself and to the humanity...
Or it have to many politicians involved... Pffft

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I think that Albania first will come for Kosovo and then Albanian populated provices in Montenegro,
then Macedonia,
and then for Albanians living in Greece.

A Greater Albania thst is.

Arn.Sweden.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

@Amnesty Yugoslavia

Well, from those 108 who have recognized us, 22 are EU countries which is almost 4 times as much as the ones who have not recognized us (only 6 ) and who are much MUCH more powerful than those 6 mentioned. So, they will also have a "saying" or two !

About the fact that Serbia considers Kosovo as part of it's territory... Well, even your politicians know that that is not true. All your neighbors know that that is not true. Hungary,Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia and Montenegro have all recognized us. I'm sure Bosnia would also love to do that but they are afraid they can get some crisis from the Serbian minority.

And, as for the last part, I totally do agree with you. Nationalism is a super-strong tool to make people brainwashed and take their attention away from the real problems that they face. Both of our countries have so much poverty, unemployment, crime , etc, and we "suddenly" have a lot of nationalists (just remember the stadium where ALBANIA* was playing against Serbia, everybody in chorus asking for raping and killing and the Albanian nationals throwing stones to the serbian people). WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

As always, I do send warm regards to all peace-loving people in the planet Earth, no matter the nationality. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

PEACE !!!

icj1

pre 9 godina

Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 April 2015 16:58)

Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud! Let's wait a second here, we are talking about a group consisting of 40 armed individuals that didn't kill no one yesterday? I stated yesterday that things didn't seem right with Albanians carrying out this attack & that Serbia along was most likely behind the incident, I continue to believe this! However even if I am wrong and it was truly carried out by Albanian individuals then this represents a splinter group that doesn't enjoy the support of large number of Albanians, they needs to be isolated and punished!!! Also wild like to get the detailed report on were the weapons and financial support is coming from! Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!

Albanian

pre 9 godina

So, when sh** hit the fan in Macedonia, they dI'd what to draw attention away form the real problems Macedonia is facing? a well though out plan, which is convenient temporarily. Macedonian government is buying time for now, and then what?

Truth

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you have your head so far up your (you know what) it's not even funny.
Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
The only people in Macedonia who want trouble are Government officials (Macedonian and Albanian) who have committed crimes and don't want the truth to come out.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

This was just a scenario by Gruevski and his criminal party.

Just check what this ex-Macedonian general said some weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H1JStgpe1Y

And, just so you guys know, I'm 100 % proud Albanian from Kosovo. I do love my country and my people but I am 100 % AGAINST the expansion of Albania or Kosovo. We already have 2 countries with Albanian majority and it'd be stupid to create another one. We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace. We, the normal* people in Republic of Kosovo do not want the expansion of Albania or joining Albania either. Fullstop !

PEACE !!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

calling for "mobilization against repression and discrimination of Albanians."

What repression? Can't we just say that Albanian settlers in ex-YU do not wish to live with non-Albanians, nor do they wish to go back to Albania either. We all thought Slobo was the problem, but he is long gone and yet the desire for Albanian expansion is still strong.

I've said Macedonia was next up. Albanian separatism is a common problem in the region, but Macedonia needs to repair its damaged relations with Greece and Serbia before they can even deal with the hell that is coming their way.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

@AmnestyYugosl
Hello there,

By peace I meant stability in our countries. Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo. That would be stupid and will just not happen. I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues .

I love Balkan culture, and I think we really are intelligent and people with great potential. I have visited many countries in the world (with my Republic of Kosovo passport ) and I can freely tell you that WE DO HAVE POTENTIAL. I know MANY very intelligent guys around. However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. And we need to do it as soon as possible. I do believe in peace. I know it will take some time, but I just hope my kids will not read articles like "Big Albania, Big Kosovo, Big Serbia, Big Macedonia" or such stupid things. SCIENCE is the real nationalism nowadays. The sooner our people will understand that the better. Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land !!! We would be feeling STUPID.
Anyway, I hope you understand my points a little better now. My main point is simple: PEACE .
Regards from Republic of Kosovo.
PEACE !!

vratnica

pre 9 godina

Restless terrorists, Kosovo was not enough now your attacking Macedonia, move to Albania the poorest nation on earth and see how you like it, stop this violence once and for all the Albanians in Macedonia and Kosovo got along great all these years now the terrorist want to rule.

Truth

pre 9 godina

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back.
(Ari Gold, 22 April 2015 18:21)

I'm glad you brought it up, because the lieder of SDSM Zoran Zaev has evidence those people were killed by the Gruevski administration this is precisely what the government is trying to hide. (Now I don't know the details but Zaev has promised he will published the recording the near future.)
We are all anxiously waiting to find out why they did this.
But Gruevski has paid criminal groups 2 million euros to pretend they are UCK fighter to stir up trouble and divert the attention of the public from the real problem.
How do I know they are not real criminal? very obvious.
1.The police have surrounded the village and has the village and police station under control, however they are not saying how they were able to get back the police station without firing a single shot.
2. What happened to those 40 fighters did they go back to Kosovo or got arrested or killed?

3. Why are they only allowing pro government media at the scene?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Because of people like you, corrupt politicians are able to pull this kind of BS.
However, for us live in Macedonia we know the truth, and this time its not going to work for Gruevski.
We want Gruevski and the crew to be brought to justice.
(Truth, 22 April 2015 13:11)

OK great. You want to remove your president. But what makes you so sure that this wasn't actually an attack by Albanian nationalists? If you really are from Macedonia, then you have seen this coming for quite a while now. http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/05.04skopjeprotesti01.jpg

You know about the dead 8 boys who were killed on Easter a couple years back. And the violent response the Albanian community gave when 5 of them were arrested for committing the murders. Then there were the missiles fired at the gov't buildings.

Hate your president all you want. But they are coming for you.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

@Amnesty Yugoslavia

Well, from those 108 who have recognized us, 22 are EU countries which is almost 4 times as much as the ones who have not recognized us (only 6 ) and who are much MUCH more powerful than those 6 mentioned. So, they will also have a "saying" or two !

About the fact that Serbia considers Kosovo as part of it's territory... Well, even your politicians know that that is not true. All your neighbors know that that is not true. Hungary,Croatia, Bulgaria, Macedonia and Montenegro have all recognized us. I'm sure Bosnia would also love to do that but they are afraid they can get some crisis from the Serbian minority.

And, as for the last part, I totally do agree with you. Nationalism is a super-strong tool to make people brainwashed and take their attention away from the real problems that they face. Both of our countries have so much poverty, unemployment, crime , etc, and we "suddenly" have a lot of nationalists (just remember the stadium where ALBANIA* was playing against Serbia, everybody in chorus asking for raping and killing and the Albanian nationals throwing stones to the serbian people). WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

As always, I do send warm regards to all peace-loving people in the planet Earth, no matter the nationality. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.

Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

PEACE !!!

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Ari, you, me and others should not fall for a trap set by 40 individuals!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

You are a hypocrite. Where is your use of collective guilt when it applies to Albanians?

You always use sweeping generalizations and condemn all Serbs as being responsible therefore guilty.

Now, when 40 Albanians are involved, you use individual responsibility even making an effort to distance yourself.

Small man and a hypocrite.

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Ari your jumping for that gun rather quick here bud!
(Rocky, 22 April 2015 11:25)

LOL that's rich, coming from someone who yesterday said "I guarantee Serbia had something to do with this incident just to destabilize the region yet again!" Don't try to squirm out of another embarrassing statement of yours by suddenly playing the objective high ground. You're one of the first people around here to shout all sorts of hate fill slurs against Serbs the second you click the comment tab.

You not only regularly jump the gun here bud, you don't even wait for the referee to enter the stadium. You're fooling no one with your calls for objectivism now that what you refused to believe yesterday was proven by your own media.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 12:07)We need to look forward and try to get into EU as a region, and only then our countries will have peace.
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Dear Ilir,

I am confused. Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.

After following your past comments about the living conditions in the region, it is quite revealing to now read that you still have not achieved peace.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Please explain how you think the countries of the region will "get-in" to the EU. KiM is not even recognized by some members of the EU.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 April 2015 16:58)

Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

Truth

pre 9 godina

When everything is said and done, the police has no explanation What happened to the "40 Albanian Terrorist" who came to Macedonia in 2 cars.

40 gun men, have armed, in 2 cars. It could happen, maybe the cars were expendable who knows, right?

The police said: "The gun man returned back to Kosovo".
But no explanation how they escaped back to Kosovo, The police fully knowing the situation how were they able to escape?

I came up with 3 theories.

1. The "Albanian Terrorist" had supernatural powers and they flew like Superman.

2. Maybe their expendable cars could fly as well.

or

3. Maybe they were ghost.

Here is another, more realistic theory.

Maybe they were paid by Gruevski to create tensions.
My last theory is actually reported in various media channels in Macedonia.
But you can not expect this to happen on B92 or other Serbian media, no that would not be realistic.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I think that Albania first will come for Kosovo and then Albanian populated provices in Montenegro,
then Macedonia,
and then for Albanians living in Greece.

A Greater Albania thst is.

Arn.Sweden.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 April 2015 04:27) Why is that relevant? Is there a requirement for a terriroty to be a recognized country by all EU members in order for that territory to be part of the EU?

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According to Spain, Slovakia, Romania, Greece and Cyprus, yes, they all sit on the Council and their unanimous votes are required.

Joni

pre 9 godina

Can somebody arrest this idiots??
Please..., do this favour to all Albanians people, to yourself and to the humanity...
Or it have to many politicians involved... Pffft

Mick

pre 9 godina

B92... I have another interesting story for you

albanians planning a terrorist attack in Australia

http://m.independent.mk/articles/16621/Albanian+from+Macedonia+Leader+of+Islamist+Group+Arrested+in+Melbourne

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) Yes, we know we are not recognized by 5 more EU countries but that will happen soon. I can not see 108 countries changing the policy and revoking the recognition of Republic of Kosovo.
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The countries you speak of do not decide for the EU. It is unlikely that a large EU country like Spain will provide you the recognition that you desperately seek.

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(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33) I just hope that Serbia will recognize us as soon as possible and we will get over with these STUPID border issues.

Your hope is misplaced in many ways. 1:Serbia considers KiM a part of its territory. 2: The border (stupid in your words) is actually being erected and enforced by the organization that you're crying to join and claim will solve your problems.

(Ilir, 22 April 2015 23:33)However, these stupid nationalism ideas have brought us where we are. WE NEED TO MOVE ON as a region. ....Believe me, sometimes I get a feeling that americans,germans, russians or chinese are so in front of us that they will leave the planet Earth and find a better one while we still keep fighting for land.

One aspect of geopolitics : The front place of some countries is actually dependent on your instability. Perhaps it is in a superpower's interest to deny you stability? Nationalism serves many purposes and masters.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

It doesnt really matter who is really behind this idiotic show.

What matters is that this is one more indication that this so called country has serious problems that will inevitably lead to its dismantling.

It is about time for the government and the idiots involved in it to face the consequences of their actions. Unless they fly out with their private jets.

Unfortunately, ordinary people will also pay the price by being part of albania (for those albanians) or bulgaria (for those who are orthodox).