Russia as "gravest challenge to European security"

Pretty much the same hate and demonization campaign during the 1990's against Serbia! Do you all remember the speaches by Clinton and Blair " Serbia posses a GREAT THREAT to USA national security and also GREAT THREAT to the whole world stability ". Yes, it's true, that was what was being told the world by Satan. The Final Solution, " Demonize and Isolate " then go in and exterminate all Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christians! This is a new era, Satan keeps teasing and insulting the Russian Empire, the result will be very negative for all humanity!

....The Russian aggression against the Ukraine and the illegal annexation of Crimea are violations of international law and other international agreements......

What a piece of duplicitous rubbish! What about Kosovo, wasn't international law violated there? US terrorism is worldwide, isn't that a violation of international law? Israel has deprived the Palestinians to live in their own country, wasn't international law breached? The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is, and then they point the finger at the Russians. Typical US dirty tactics. Russia needs to re-exert itself as a superpower that it is. We need a balance of power in this world, otherwise, the terrorists will impose their will on the entire planet.

Again, as usual, the western leaders commit a mistake. Even after the fall of the iron curtain, Russia has been treated like an enemy. The proof of that is the anti missile shield designed by Mr Bush. The other proof is the fact that both washington, Brussels, and Serbia's neighbours are forcing Serbia to move to the west, even when they have doubts about it. Nowadays, the most of the serbs feel sorry for what happened in the 90s in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, but when it comes to the alignment, they are totally aware of their cultural and political links with Russia. Nowadays bridges are needed between the west and the east. Serbia can provide it, but the attitude of washington is exclusively oriented to break all the links, what can be seen in the policies of US with Serbia.

(goodrobotusses, 10 April 2015 13:42)
I get your sarcasm, but their attitude is getting closer and closer to what you have said in the rest of your post.
what is happening in Ukraine is because of the the pervertion of the euromajdan with discriminatory laws and policies to the russian speakers. Naturally, Russia reacted (Don't missunderstand me. I don't like Putin, but this time he's right). Now Kijev is doing the same that Milošević did in the rest of the ex Yu. The difference is that this time, the western media is defending Ukraine.

The Nordic nations are only saying this as a way of winding up Serb nationalists.

(I am being sarcastic too!)

The Defenseministers in Scandinavia are in Error !.
They dont know the Operational Military Planing of,
Neither Russia,EU or their own Militarys.

It is the EU/Nato which possesses the Threath to Europes Security and stability,
and that will Crack Nato and make it dissolve.

It is the EU who will begin the Big War in Europe.

You will See !.

Arn.Sweden.

Since Swedish invasion in 1240, numerous European armies marched on Russia. English destroyed Sevastopol, Russia never destroyed any English port.
Napoleon burned Moscow, Russia never burned Paris, etc. etc.
Yet, Europe should feel threatened by Russia, and not the other way around even as NATO is creeping ever closer to their borders.

Tut tut, those warmongering Scandinavians and their anti-Putin, anti-Russian propaganda. Never trust those Nordic lads, especially countries such as Norway, which only peddles EU myths, and Sweden and Finland, who're the worst of the NATO aggressors. They just want to hinder the benevolent intentions of Tsar Putin the Magnificent!

P.S. For those in the slow coaches, I'm being sarcastic.

"The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is, and then they point the finger at the Russians. Typical US dirty tactics."
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

Yes, sure the US forced Russia to invade and annex Crimea. And they forced Russia to send their soldiers for 'holidays' to eastern Ukraine, and they forced the Russian separatists to shut down MH17? Did I forget something?

Sure Russia and its expansionist politics are the biggest security thread in Europe. But for me it's clear that even Putin won't dare to attack or invade one of the Baltic countries, or Romania, or Poland, since they are NATO members, unlike Ukraine. The most likely nextx victim of Putin's 'politics' might be Moldova/Transnistria, where Russia is already financing ethnic separatists.

Yes, sure the US forced Russia to invade and annex Crimea. And they forced Russia to send their soldiers for 'holidays' to eastern Ukraine, and they forced the Russian separatists to shut down MH17? Did I forget something?
(Questioner, 10 April 2015 20:02)

I don't know if you really meant what you said, or is it just to say something regardless of how stupid it is. For every action there's a reaction. If the terrorists did not overthrow a legitimate government in the Ukraine, would this have occurred? Second, what would the terrorists have done if Russia would've overthrown a Canadian government and annexed Quebec? Look at the terrorists panicking now. They want to court the Cubans after a 50 year embargo. Why? The biggest mistake in Russian history, and there were many, is when they trusted the terrorists that don't honour a single document they've signed, and abandoned their domination in Europe. The second, was when they abandoned the Serbs in Kosovo. Even though they were economically strapped, they are nevertheless a nuclear force not to be reckoned with. However, they had a drunk at the helm at that time and here we are today.

Hmm, I like the way we can make this about the US and EU and Nato when it is really about a number of small neighbouring Scandinavian countries worried about the bully next door who keeps knocking on the door with flights of war planes along their borders designed to show Russian military superiority. All those who like bullies raise your hands.

icj1
you are right - we need some humor.
In that light - Russia is a threat. Look how close they put their country to NATO military bases!
Shame on them...

Now now.. Let's not get off the beaten track.. The Scandinavian countries should stop trying to deflect the attention away from its own social demise by using Russia as its scape goat for its failed multicultural policies, the next generation of Scandinavian will pay dearly for the current mobs arrogance, perhaps to the same extent that of the Yugoslavs suffered. The numbers and history speaks volumes... Hence stop lying to your own people.

Hmm, I like the way we can make this about the US and EU and Nato when it is really about a number of small neighbouring Scandinavian countries worried about the bully next door who keeps knocking on the door with flights of war planes along their borders designed to show Russian military superiority. All those who like bullies raise your hands.
(Andreas Simic, 11 April 2015 22:42)
=================================
You really think that?
So how is Russia showing any interest in these countries? Please let us know so that we too can understand.
Russia is only interested in their own people and territory, unline the US who used NATO to rip a country apart and then built a sizable base on the land they took.

P.S. For those in the slow coaches, I'm being sarcastic.
(goodrobotusses, 10 April 2015 13:42)

yea we know.we expect useless words from you.

Some one tell Arn. Sweden he can stop howling at the moon, the full moon has passed.

Finally, Europe is starting to wake up. Russian aggression has been apparent ever since Georgia 2008, but the European governments as well as the US Administration wanted to appease Moscow. Obama, the lame duck, even pushed the reset button and asked for a renewal of the Western-Russian relations, just as he tries with Iran and Cuba. But Putin is a war monger who has no will or intention for peace. The clerical-fascist cocktail which Putin and his cronies call "Russian world" is a sinister plan to subdue and destabilize Europe. It is time to make a hard stance just as the Nordic countries made. There will be peace with Russia only when it is broken in smaller, more manageable pieces, just as the Sovietunion.

....The Russian aggression against the Ukraine and the illegal annexation of Crimea are violations of international law and other international agreements......

What a piece of duplicitous rubbish! What about Kosovo, wasn't international law violated there? US terrorism is worldwide, isn't that a violation of international law?
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

OK, so you're saying that (in addition to the US) Russia is wrong, too!
----------

The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

So, the US controls what happens to Russia?!

Mate, in just two sentences you made very unpatriotic statements in regards to Russia!!!
----------

Russia needs to re-exert itself as a superpower that it is.
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

And it's miserably failing. It's hard to think of a situation in decades where the international support for Russia's actions is as low as the international support for what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

Rat za naftu, pripremaju se.

I Quote -

Some one tell Arn. Sweden he can stop howling at the moon, the full moon has passed.
(The Count of Kosova, 11 April 2015 17:11)

Comment -

It returns over and over again in cycles !.

If you didnt know !.

Arn.Sweden.

Yet, Europe should feel threatened by Russia, and not the other way around even as NATO is creeping ever closer to their borders.
(Sreten, 10 April 2015 19:27)

NATO creeping closer to Russia's borders is a totally insignificant event. Haven't you read the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that NATO is all p... and wind?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Pretty much the same hate and demonization campaign during the 1990's against Serbia! Do you all remember the speaches by Clinton and Blair " Serbia posses a GREAT THREAT to USA national security and also GREAT THREAT to the whole world stability ". Yes, it's true, that was what was being told the world by Satan. The Final Solution, " Demonize and Isolate " then go in and exterminate all Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christians! This is a new era, Satan keeps teasing and insulting the Russian Empire, the result will be very negative for all humanity!

....The Russian aggression against the Ukraine and the illegal annexation of Crimea are violations of international law and other international agreements......

What a piece of duplicitous rubbish! What about Kosovo, wasn't international law violated there? US terrorism is worldwide, isn't that a violation of international law? Israel has deprived the Palestinians to live in their own country, wasn't international law breached? The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is, and then they point the finger at the Russians. Typical US dirty tactics. Russia needs to re-exert itself as a superpower that it is. We need a balance of power in this world, otherwise, the terrorists will impose their will on the entire planet.

Tut tut, those warmongering Scandinavians and their anti-Putin, anti-Russian propaganda. Never trust those Nordic lads, especially countries such as Norway, which only peddles EU myths, and Sweden and Finland, who're the worst of the NATO aggressors. They just want to hinder the benevolent intentions of Tsar Putin the Magnificent!

P.S. For those in the slow coaches, I'm being sarcastic.

Again, as usual, the western leaders commit a mistake. Even after the fall of the iron curtain, Russia has been treated like an enemy. The proof of that is the anti missile shield designed by Mr Bush. The other proof is the fact that both washington, Brussels, and Serbia's neighbours are forcing Serbia to move to the west, even when they have doubts about it. Nowadays, the most of the serbs feel sorry for what happened in the 90s in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, but when it comes to the alignment, they are totally aware of their cultural and political links with Russia. Nowadays bridges are needed between the west and the east. Serbia can provide it, but the attitude of washington is exclusively oriented to break all the links, what can be seen in the policies of US with Serbia.

(goodrobotusses, 10 April 2015 13:42)
I get your sarcasm, but their attitude is getting closer and closer to what you have said in the rest of your post.
what is happening in Ukraine is because of the the pervertion of the euromajdan with discriminatory laws and policies to the russian speakers. Naturally, Russia reacted (Don't missunderstand me. I don't like Putin, but this time he's right). Now Kijev is doing the same that Milošević did in the rest of the ex Yu. The difference is that this time, the western media is defending Ukraine.

P.S. For those in the slow coaches, I'm being sarcastic.
(goodrobotusses, 10 April 2015 13:42)

yea we know.we expect useless words from you.

The Defenseministers in Scandinavia are in Error !.
They dont know the Operational Military Planing of,
Neither Russia,EU or their own Militarys.

It is the EU/Nato which possesses the Threath to Europes Security and stability,
and that will Crack Nato and make it dissolve.

It is the EU who will begin the Big War in Europe.

You will See !.

Arn.Sweden.

"The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is, and then they point the finger at the Russians. Typical US dirty tactics."
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

Yes, sure the US forced Russia to invade and annex Crimea. And they forced Russia to send their soldiers for 'holidays' to eastern Ukraine, and they forced the Russian separatists to shut down MH17? Did I forget something?

The Nordic nations are only saying this as a way of winding up Serb nationalists.

(I am being sarcastic too!)

Sure Russia and its expansionist politics are the biggest security thread in Europe. But for me it's clear that even Putin won't dare to attack or invade one of the Baltic countries, or Romania, or Poland, since they are NATO members, unlike Ukraine. The most likely nextx victim of Putin's 'politics' might be Moldova/Transnistria, where Russia is already financing ethnic separatists.

Yet, Europe should feel threatened by Russia, and not the other way around even as NATO is creeping ever closer to their borders.
(Sreten, 10 April 2015 19:27)

NATO creeping closer to Russia's borders is a totally insignificant event. Haven't you read the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that NATO is all p... and wind?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Hmm, I like the way we can make this about the US and EU and Nato when it is really about a number of small neighbouring Scandinavian countries worried about the bully next door who keeps knocking on the door with flights of war planes along their borders designed to show Russian military superiority. All those who like bullies raise your hands.
(Andreas Simic, 11 April 2015 22:42)
=================================
You really think that?
So how is Russia showing any interest in these countries? Please let us know so that we too can understand.
Russia is only interested in their own people and territory, unline the US who used NATO to rip a country apart and then built a sizable base on the land they took.

Since Swedish invasion in 1240, numerous European armies marched on Russia. English destroyed Sevastopol, Russia never destroyed any English port.
Napoleon burned Moscow, Russia never burned Paris, etc. etc.
Yet, Europe should feel threatened by Russia, and not the other way around even as NATO is creeping ever closer to their borders.

....The Russian aggression against the Ukraine and the illegal annexation of Crimea are violations of international law and other international agreements......

What a piece of duplicitous rubbish! What about Kosovo, wasn't international law violated there? US terrorism is worldwide, isn't that a violation of international law?
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

OK, so you're saying that (in addition to the US) Russia is wrong, too!
----------

The US terrorists have caused the Russian situation to what it is
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

So, the US controls what happens to Russia?!

Mate, in just two sentences you made very unpatriotic statements in regards to Russia!!!
----------

Russia needs to re-exert itself as a superpower that it is.
(ivan, 10 April 2015 14:39)

And it's miserably failing. It's hard to think of a situation in decades where the international support for Russia's actions is as low as the international support for what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

Some one tell Arn. Sweden he can stop howling at the moon, the full moon has passed.

Yes, sure the US forced Russia to invade and annex Crimea. And they forced Russia to send their soldiers for 'holidays' to eastern Ukraine, and they forced the Russian separatists to shut down MH17? Did I forget something?
(Questioner, 10 April 2015 20:02)

I don't know if you really meant what you said, or is it just to say something regardless of how stupid it is. For every action there's a reaction. If the terrorists did not overthrow a legitimate government in the Ukraine, would this have occurred? Second, what would the terrorists have done if Russia would've overthrown a Canadian government and annexed Quebec? Look at the terrorists panicking now. They want to court the Cubans after a 50 year embargo. Why? The biggest mistake in Russian history, and there were many, is when they trusted the terrorists that don't honour a single document they've signed, and abandoned their domination in Europe. The second, was when they abandoned the Serbs in Kosovo. Even though they were economically strapped, they are nevertheless a nuclear force not to be reckoned with. However, they had a drunk at the helm at that time and here we are today.

Now now.. Let's not get off the beaten track.. The Scandinavian countries should stop trying to deflect the attention away from its own social demise by using Russia as its scape goat for its failed multicultural policies, the next generation of Scandinavian will pay dearly for the current mobs arrogance, perhaps to the same extent that of the Yugoslavs suffered. The numbers and history speaks volumes... Hence stop lying to your own people.

Finally, Europe is starting to wake up. Russian aggression has been apparent ever since Georgia 2008, but the European governments as well as the US Administration wanted to appease Moscow. Obama, the lame duck, even pushed the reset button and asked for a renewal of the Western-Russian relations, just as he tries with Iran and Cuba. But Putin is a war monger who has no will or intention for peace. The clerical-fascist cocktail which Putin and his cronies call "Russian world" is a sinister plan to subdue and destabilize Europe. It is time to make a hard stance just as the Nordic countries made. There will be peace with Russia only when it is broken in smaller, more manageable pieces, just as the Sovietunion.

Hmm, I like the way we can make this about the US and EU and Nato when it is really about a number of small neighbouring Scandinavian countries worried about the bully next door who keeps knocking on the door with flights of war planes along their borders designed to show Russian military superiority. All those who like bullies raise your hands.

I Quote -

Some one tell Arn. Sweden he can stop howling at the moon, the full moon has passed.
(The Count of Kosova, 11 April 2015 17:11)

Comment -

It returns over and over again in cycles !.

If you didnt know !.

Arn.Sweden.

Rat za naftu, pripremaju se.

icj1
you are right - we need some humor.
In that light - Russia is a threat. Look how close they put their country to NATO military bases!
Shame on them...