Russia is "ready to meet Belgrade's request" and allow import of Fiat cars without customs duty, "within the tariff quotas," writes a Moscow-based newspaper.
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
(bob, 11 April 2015 22:18)
idiot bob hasn't ever heard of Zastava and the Fica, has he? Serbia is the only one in the region that even assembles car, idiot bob needs to get back on his donkey on his way back to Kukes.
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
The Fiat 500L is one of the least safest cars around according to the US Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.
Test showed that the structure of the Fiat 500L was being pushed into the driver’s survival space, “knocking the steering wheel back and to the right of the driver,” which puts the airbag out of position, meaning the dummy’s head slid off to the left side.'
http://consumerist.com/2014/07/31/only-1-out-12-small-cars-gets-good-rating-in-new-crash-test-results/
“why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal … why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with”
I can respond your both comic questions :
1/ Russia is the biggest after Germany car market in Europe so tax issue has always been sensitive. Biggest conflicts we had with Byelorussia that used the hole in our border to re-export cars from EU. But Russia finally put an end to it when Serbia had no FIATs yet. So your new ugly attempt to find contradictions between the two brothers whom you both hate will end as usual.
2/ As for the trade deficit with Russia I also have to disappoint you. Because 80-90% of our trade partners have trade deficit in our favor. All because of the structure of our exports composed of energy (gas, petrol, crude oil, coal, electricity) , armaments , metals, nuclear power stations ect. besides all our imports dropped in late 2014. So it’s very routine and there’s nothing anti-Serbian in the status quo. Also the full-stop of the SS played negative role. So find some other proof of the cunning Russian monster to plan plots against our last ally on Balkans.
"Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 22:54)
Of course it is good. But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
And you must ask why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with, i.e. it is importing a lot more from than it is exporting to. Let's say 10.000 cars, estimated price $15.000, make up 150 millions, which is a small amount of the trade deficit of a billion or so.
But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 April 2015 10:00)
For several years Serbia has asked the Russians to include cars in the free trade regime. The Russians said yes, if the cars were mostly manufactured in Serbia. The Fiat 500 is mostly manufactured in the EU and assembled in Serbia and so was not included in the free trade regime.
who will buy these cars in Russia now ? Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians? I'm really a bit skeptic ... (Luigi, 9 April 2015 14:55)
I partly agree because FIAT gained not much reputation in this country. Even the famous FIAT 124 that became known here as Lada was 17 times redesigned under the demands of the Soviets. Besides prices for the FIATS available are comparatively high. Even though some of them are made in Russia. So the Serbia made low segment cars at appropriate prices may quite be successful. Especially now that rouble is fast regaining it positions against both dollar and euro.
Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back. (Lenard, 9 April 2015 19:29)
I enjoy each time you worry about Serbs and Serbia. Please don’t stop it.
If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks. (Vuk, 9 April 2015 18:19)
Those are 3 different stories but the USA always stood behind those states. Also if you look around you should consider that contradictions arise between neighbors. Also please use your own brains for a while to see that it is Putin who gives you all to suck. Good appetite !
This was something Putin promised during his visit to Serbia last Fall. It has nothing to do with Serbian soldiers marching in the parade.
It just takes a while for these things to get in place.
And that's part of the problem with the Free Trade Agreement with Russia - Serbia is being too slow at getting these deals going and Russia is not pro-actively searching for them: it has to be requested by Serbia. So that is why the ball is continually in Serbia's court and therefore it must make effort to continually find, implement and boost more trade deals with Russia.
There's a difference between being a Russophile and not hating Russia because the EU's group of NGO's in Belgrade tell everyone Russia's an enemy because EU has no alternative and is more important than oxygen.
Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves.
When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
(Michael Thomas, 9 April 2015 14:28) Russia is playing Serbia http://www.janes.com/article/42824/serbia-s-mig-29s-return-to-flight-ops but the Serbs never get it. O well Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back.
@Comm. Parrisson
Soo true, Russia has not been of any economic benefit to Serbia at all, not even political benefit since Kosovo is already a de facto state and Russia didn't help much in that regard. Russia is extremely useless to Serbia yet I don't see why Vucic and Nikolic can't just dump them forever, they seem to keep licking their shoes every now and then. The relation exactly like a kid in high school trying to be a friend of a popular guy and the popular guy shakes hand with him everyday but never hangs out with him...... Screw Russia for real, I don't get them stupid Russophiles... If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks.
Actually, if the Turkish Stream goes into affect, Serbia will play a much larger role in that pipeline than the original South Stream. It will be the country that bridges the transit directly to the EU.
Serbia is a small country and needs to keep good relations with larger, more powerful countries. When it follows the demands of the NATO-West all it gets are further demands and threats. When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
This seem a good news for Serbia and FCA (this is the new name of FIAT )..
BUT THERE IS ONLY A PROBLEM...who will buy these cars in Russia now ?
Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians?
I'm really a bit skeptic ...
"So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 13:02)
Well, 10.000? How many 100.000 cars does Fiat Kragujevac exports at all? And I don't know if it's a an reward for sending soldiers, maybe it should be seen as a small compensation from Russia for Serbia for the scrapped South Stream project? You know, Serbia was so 'smart' to sell NIS (including domestic gas resources wourth some billion $) for peanuts to Gazprom, hoping for South Stream, but it was ripped off by Russia because the deals have been 'not connected', i.e. Gazprom got NIS, Serbia didn't get SouthStream - and no compensation.
So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time. Hopefully that will mean more jobs in Kragujevac. What's certain is this gives Fiat a competitive advantage having such easy access to the Russian market.
So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time. Hopefully that will mean more jobs in Kragujevac. What's certain is this gives Fiat a competitive advantage having such easy access to the Russian market.
Serbia is a small country and needs to keep good relations with larger, more powerful countries. When it follows the demands of the NATO-West all it gets are further demands and threats. When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
There's a difference between being a Russophile and not hating Russia because the EU's group of NGO's in Belgrade tell everyone Russia's an enemy because EU has no alternative and is more important than oxygen.
Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves.
"So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 13:02)
Well, 10.000? How many 100.000 cars does Fiat Kragujevac exports at all? And I don't know if it's a an reward for sending soldiers, maybe it should be seen as a small compensation from Russia for Serbia for the scrapped South Stream project? You know, Serbia was so 'smart' to sell NIS (including domestic gas resources wourth some billion $) for peanuts to Gazprom, hoping for South Stream, but it was ripped off by Russia because the deals have been 'not connected', i.e. Gazprom got NIS, Serbia didn't get SouthStream - and no compensation.
@Comm. Parrisson
Soo true, Russia has not been of any economic benefit to Serbia at all, not even political benefit since Kosovo is already a de facto state and Russia didn't help much in that regard. Russia is extremely useless to Serbia yet I don't see why Vucic and Nikolic can't just dump them forever, they seem to keep licking their shoes every now and then. The relation exactly like a kid in high school trying to be a friend of a popular guy and the popular guy shakes hand with him everyday but never hangs out with him...... Screw Russia for real, I don't get them stupid Russophiles... If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks.
Actually, if the Turkish Stream goes into affect, Serbia will play a much larger role in that pipeline than the original South Stream. It will be the country that bridges the transit directly to the EU.
This seem a good news for Serbia and FCA (this is the new name of FIAT )..
BUT THERE IS ONLY A PROBLEM...who will buy these cars in Russia now ?
Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians?
I'm really a bit skeptic ...
When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
(Michael Thomas, 9 April 2015 14:28) Russia is playing Serbia http://www.janes.com/article/42824/serbia-s-mig-29s-return-to-flight-ops but the Serbs never get it. O well Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back.
“why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal … why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with”
I can respond your both comic questions :
1/ Russia is the biggest after Germany car market in Europe so tax issue has always been sensitive. Biggest conflicts we had with Byelorussia that used the hole in our border to re-export cars from EU. But Russia finally put an end to it when Serbia had no FIATs yet. So your new ugly attempt to find contradictions between the two brothers whom you both hate will end as usual.
2/ As for the trade deficit with Russia I also have to disappoint you. Because 80-90% of our trade partners have trade deficit in our favor. All because of the structure of our exports composed of energy (gas, petrol, crude oil, coal, electricity) , armaments , metals, nuclear power stations ect. besides all our imports dropped in late 2014. So it’s very routine and there’s nothing anti-Serbian in the status quo. Also the full-stop of the SS played negative role. So find some other proof of the cunning Russian monster to plan plots against our last ally on Balkans.
who will buy these cars in Russia now ? Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians? I'm really a bit skeptic ... (Luigi, 9 April 2015 14:55)
I partly agree because FIAT gained not much reputation in this country. Even the famous FIAT 124 that became known here as Lada was 17 times redesigned under the demands of the Soviets. Besides prices for the FIATS available are comparatively high. Even though some of them are made in Russia. So the Serbia made low segment cars at appropriate prices may quite be successful. Especially now that rouble is fast regaining it positions against both dollar and euro.
Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back. (Lenard, 9 April 2015 19:29)
I enjoy each time you worry about Serbs and Serbia. Please don’t stop it.
If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks. (Vuk, 9 April 2015 18:19)
Those are 3 different stories but the USA always stood behind those states. Also if you look around you should consider that contradictions arise between neighbors. Also please use your own brains for a while to see that it is Putin who gives you all to suck. Good appetite !
But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 April 2015 10:00)
For several years Serbia has asked the Russians to include cars in the free trade regime. The Russians said yes, if the cars were mostly manufactured in Serbia. The Fiat 500 is mostly manufactured in the EU and assembled in Serbia and so was not included in the free trade regime.
The Fiat 500L is one of the least safest cars around according to the US Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.
Test showed that the structure of the Fiat 500L was being pushed into the driver’s survival space, “knocking the steering wheel back and to the right of the driver,” which puts the airbag out of position, meaning the dummy’s head slid off to the left side.'
http://consumerist.com/2014/07/31/only-1-out-12-small-cars-gets-good-rating-in-new-crash-test-results/
"Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 22:54)
Of course it is good. But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
And you must ask why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with, i.e. it is importing a lot more from than it is exporting to. Let's say 10.000 cars, estimated price $15.000, make up 150 millions, which is a small amount of the trade deficit of a billion or so.
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
This was something Putin promised during his visit to Serbia last Fall. It has nothing to do with Serbian soldiers marching in the parade.
It just takes a while for these things to get in place.
And that's part of the problem with the Free Trade Agreement with Russia - Serbia is being too slow at getting these deals going and Russia is not pro-actively searching for them: it has to be requested by Serbia. So that is why the ball is continually in Serbia's court and therefore it must make effort to continually find, implement and boost more trade deals with Russia.
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
(bob, 11 April 2015 22:18)
idiot bob hasn't ever heard of Zastava and the Fica, has he? Serbia is the only one in the region that even assembles car, idiot bob needs to get back on his donkey on his way back to Kukes.
When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
(Michael Thomas, 9 April 2015 14:28) Russia is playing Serbia http://www.janes.com/article/42824/serbia-s-mig-29s-return-to-flight-ops but the Serbs never get it. O well Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back.
@Comm. Parrisson
Soo true, Russia has not been of any economic benefit to Serbia at all, not even political benefit since Kosovo is already a de facto state and Russia didn't help much in that regard. Russia is extremely useless to Serbia yet I don't see why Vucic and Nikolic can't just dump them forever, they seem to keep licking their shoes every now and then. The relation exactly like a kid in high school trying to be a friend of a popular guy and the popular guy shakes hand with him everyday but never hangs out with him...... Screw Russia for real, I don't get them stupid Russophiles... If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks.
"So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 13:02)
Well, 10.000? How many 100.000 cars does Fiat Kragujevac exports at all? And I don't know if it's a an reward for sending soldiers, maybe it should be seen as a small compensation from Russia for Serbia for the scrapped South Stream project? You know, Serbia was so 'smart' to sell NIS (including domestic gas resources wourth some billion $) for peanuts to Gazprom, hoping for South Stream, but it was ripped off by Russia because the deals have been 'not connected', i.e. Gazprom got NIS, Serbia didn't get SouthStream - and no compensation.
Serbia is a small country and needs to keep good relations with larger, more powerful countries. When it follows the demands of the NATO-West all it gets are further demands and threats. When it shows the Russians some friendliness and respect it wins tangible benefits.
So all Serbia had to do was send its soldiers to march in a Victory over Fascism Day in Moscow and Russia allows cars from Serbia to be imported duty-free? Not a bad deal. This is the best thing to happen to Serbia's car industry in a very long time. Hopefully that will mean more jobs in Kragujevac. What's certain is this gives Fiat a competitive advantage having such easy access to the Russian market.
This seem a good news for Serbia and FCA (this is the new name of FIAT )..
BUT THERE IS ONLY A PROBLEM...who will buy these cars in Russia now ?
Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians?
I'm really a bit skeptic ...
Actually, if the Turkish Stream goes into affect, Serbia will play a much larger role in that pipeline than the original South Stream. It will be the country that bridges the transit directly to the EU.
“why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal … why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with”
I can respond your both comic questions :
1/ Russia is the biggest after Germany car market in Europe so tax issue has always been sensitive. Biggest conflicts we had with Byelorussia that used the hole in our border to re-export cars from EU. But Russia finally put an end to it when Serbia had no FIATs yet. So your new ugly attempt to find contradictions between the two brothers whom you both hate will end as usual.
2/ As for the trade deficit with Russia I also have to disappoint you. Because 80-90% of our trade partners have trade deficit in our favor. All because of the structure of our exports composed of energy (gas, petrol, crude oil, coal, electricity) , armaments , metals, nuclear power stations ect. besides all our imports dropped in late 2014. So it’s very routine and there’s nothing anti-Serbian in the status quo. Also the full-stop of the SS played negative role. So find some other proof of the cunning Russian monster to plan plots against our last ally on Balkans.
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
There's a difference between being a Russophile and not hating Russia because the EU's group of NGO's in Belgrade tell everyone Russia's an enemy because EU has no alternative and is more important than oxygen.
Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves.
who will buy these cars in Russia now ? Are the 500?s a hot deal for Russians? I'm really a bit skeptic ... (Luigi, 9 April 2015 14:55)
I partly agree because FIAT gained not much reputation in this country. Even the famous FIAT 124 that became known here as Lada was 17 times redesigned under the demands of the Soviets. Besides prices for the FIATS available are comparatively high. Even though some of them are made in Russia. So the Serbia made low segment cars at appropriate prices may quite be successful. Especially now that rouble is fast regaining it positions against both dollar and euro.
Russia is making Serbia poorer and poorer just like Serb politicans whats new. One step forward then two back. (Lenard, 9 April 2015 19:29)
I enjoy each time you worry about Serbs and Serbia. Please don’t stop it.
If Serbia was bordering Russia then, like all Russia's neighbors, from Estonia to Ukraine to Georgia our biggest enemy would have been Russia.... LET'S USE OUR BRAINS FOR A WHILE! Putin sucks. (Vuk, 9 April 2015 18:19)
Those are 3 different stories but the USA always stood behind those states. Also if you look around you should consider that contradictions arise between neighbors. Also please use your own brains for a while to see that it is Putin who gives you all to suck. Good appetite !
"Duty-free access to the Russian market is good for Serbia's economy. Period. Anything else is just EU fanatics being their fanatical selves."
(Ari Gold, 9 April 2015 22:54)
Of course it is good. But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
And you must ask why Russia is the country Serbia has the greatest trade deficit with, i.e. it is importing a lot more from than it is exporting to. Let's say 10.000 cars, estimated price $15.000, make up 150 millions, which is a small amount of the trade deficit of a billion or so.
The Fiat 500L is one of the least safest cars around according to the US Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.
Test showed that the structure of the Fiat 500L was being pushed into the driver’s survival space, “knocking the steering wheel back and to the right of the driver,” which puts the airbag out of position, meaning the dummy’s head slid off to the left side.'
http://consumerist.com/2014/07/31/only-1-out-12-small-cars-gets-good-rating-in-new-crash-test-results/
LMAO, serbs acting like they designed it. You are nothing but cheap labour to Italians, Putin probably did this so greaseballs would presuare french and germans to give up sanctions. Serbia doesn't produce cars, it just asembles them.
(bob, 11 April 2015 22:18)
idiot bob hasn't ever heard of Zastava and the Fica, has he? Serbia is the only one in the region that even assembles car, idiot bob needs to get back on his donkey on his way back to Kukes.
This was something Putin promised during his visit to Serbia last Fall. It has nothing to do with Serbian soldiers marching in the parade.
It just takes a while for these things to get in place.
And that's part of the problem with the Free Trade Agreement with Russia - Serbia is being too slow at getting these deals going and Russia is not pro-actively searching for them: it has to be requested by Serbia. So that is why the ball is continually in Serbia's court and therefore it must make effort to continually find, implement and boost more trade deals with Russia.
But you should ask yourself why especially cars (which make up the most of Serbia's export) were explicitely excluded from the great 'duty free access' deal, and why they might be included only now (within a contingent, of course).
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 April 2015 10:00)
For several years Serbia has asked the Russians to include cars in the free trade regime. The Russians said yes, if the cars were mostly manufactured in Serbia. The Fiat 500 is mostly manufactured in the EU and assembled in Serbia and so was not included in the free trade regime.
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