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Monday, 06.04.2015.

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PM wants proof that Seselj is now healthy

The government will decide on the Hague Tribunal's request once it receives "some papers" that show that Vojislav Seselj is "healthy."

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heyhey

pre 9 godina

yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 11 April 2015 05:30)
# Comment link

Especially if it is exactly what you WANT to hear!

icj1

pre 9 godina

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Ok... then what?!
----------

According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Please provide the evidence where Judge Harhoff stated that "the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat."

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(heyhey, 10 April 2015 19:30) One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

---

The Judge was an inside whistleblower, not an internet commentator. Edward Snowden was only one out of 30000 employees, that blew the whistle on the NSA, so, yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27) \

mate, not sure what the raving above means!!! Sounds like the writing of somebody who had fever - there are no logical connections between sentences and words :)

heyhey

pre 9 godina

. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)
One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

---

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.

Comment - so what are you then arguing about ?

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

icj1

pre 9 godina

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.
----------

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

Reader

pre 9 godina

So the future of the government of Serbia (according to Vulin and his theory about Seselj's release) now depends on a doctor's notice. This new excuse for not acting is hilarious. Vucic has great advisors. Wait, maybe it was Tony Blair's advice?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Comment -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !

That is how Justys system works.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn .Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

So the original poster is telling the truth.
(you are right but dead wrong, 6 April 2015 22:33)
# Comment link

Comment -

As according to your Logic,
an accused one can obstruct justice in all eternity.

( One might wonder why the Nasiz and everybody else guilty does not).

Yes you are dead wrong !.

Arn.Sweden.

Walter

pre 9 godina

OK so they claim that he was released to throw down the government, he obviously failed since no one gave him any attention and radicalism is dead in Serbia...... now sending him back will not cause any issues because again no one cares about him, so send him back, it's very simple.

icj1

pre 9 godina

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.

you are right but dead wrong

pre 9 godina

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2015 19:59)
True if he sat there at the table and never filed a thing nor feigned sick the trial would have been over in less than 2 years. It is not dependent on his participating but if he does which he DID then the timing does! And remember he filed suit to be able to defend himself and won, which means that he did not have an attorney to continue in his absences.

So the original poster is telling the truth.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.

the truth

pre 9 godina

in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..
(Branko, 6 April 2015 12:41)

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

More than eleven years is Torture and Blackmail !.

Even all the Nazis of Germanys Prosecutions,
only took a copule of Years.

This Haag Tribunal should be Told they Must give up on Seselj.

Arn.Sweden.

Branko

pre 9 godina

Makes sense, if the man was released due to bad medical status, the reason why to take him back to detention could be only positive progress in his medical status.....in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..

Branko

pre 9 godina

Makes sense, if the man was released due to bad medical status, the reason why to take him back to detention could be only positive progress in his medical status.....in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

More than eleven years is Torture and Blackmail !.

Even all the Nazis of Germanys Prosecutions,
only took a copule of Years.

This Haag Tribunal should be Told they Must give up on Seselj.

Arn.Sweden.

the truth

pre 9 godina

in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..
(Branko, 6 April 2015 12:41)

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.

heyhey

pre 9 godina

yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 11 April 2015 05:30)
# Comment link

Especially if it is exactly what you WANT to hear!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.

you are right but dead wrong

pre 9 godina

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2015 19:59)
True if he sat there at the table and never filed a thing nor feigned sick the trial would have been over in less than 2 years. It is not dependent on his participating but if he does which he DID then the timing does! And remember he filed suit to be able to defend himself and won, which means that he did not have an attorney to continue in his absences.

So the original poster is telling the truth.

heyhey

pre 9 godina

. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)
One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

icj1

pre 9 godina

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.

Walter

pre 9 godina

OK so they claim that he was released to throw down the government, he obviously failed since no one gave him any attention and radicalism is dead in Serbia...... now sending him back will not cause any issues because again no one cares about him, so send him back, it's very simple.

Reader

pre 9 godina

So the future of the government of Serbia (according to Vulin and his theory about Seselj's release) now depends on a doctor's notice. This new excuse for not acting is hilarious. Vucic has great advisors. Wait, maybe it was Tony Blair's advice?

icj1

pre 9 godina

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.
----------

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.

Comment - so what are you then arguing about ?

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

---

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.

Arn .Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

So the original poster is telling the truth.
(you are right but dead wrong, 6 April 2015 22:33)
# Comment link

Comment -

As according to your Logic,
an accused one can obstruct justice in all eternity.

( One might wonder why the Nasiz and everybody else guilty does not).

Yes you are dead wrong !.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Comment -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !

That is how Justys system works.

Arn.Sweden.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27) \

mate, not sure what the raving above means!!! Sounds like the writing of somebody who had fever - there are no logical connections between sentences and words :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Ok... then what?!
----------

According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Please provide the evidence where Judge Harhoff stated that "the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat."

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(heyhey, 10 April 2015 19:30) One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

---

The Judge was an inside whistleblower, not an internet commentator. Edward Snowden was only one out of 30000 employees, that blew the whistle on the NSA, so, yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.

Branko

pre 9 godina

Makes sense, if the man was released due to bad medical status, the reason why to take him back to detention could be only positive progress in his medical status.....in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..

the truth

pre 9 godina

in addition to that I don't know any European country where someone could be kept in detention for 11y without any conviction. ..
(Branko, 6 April 2015 12:41)

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

More than eleven years is Torture and Blackmail !.

Even all the Nazis of Germanys Prosecutions,
only took a copule of Years.

This Haag Tribunal should be Told they Must give up on Seselj.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn .Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

So the original poster is telling the truth.
(you are right but dead wrong, 6 April 2015 22:33)
# Comment link

Comment -

As according to your Logic,
an accused one can obstruct justice in all eternity.

( One might wonder why the Nasiz and everybody else guilty does not).

Yes you are dead wrong !.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Comment -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !

That is how Justys system works.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.

Comment - so what are you then arguing about ?

By !.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.

you are right but dead wrong

pre 9 godina

comment - a Trial is not dependent on a participation of an accused one !.

You are not the truth only a selfdeceived one.

Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 6 April 2015 19:59)
True if he sat there at the table and never filed a thing nor feigned sick the trial would have been over in less than 2 years. It is not dependent on his participating but if he does which he DID then the timing does! And remember he filed suit to be able to defend himself and won, which means that he did not have an attorney to continue in his absences.

So the original poster is telling the truth.

Walter

pre 9 godina

OK so they claim that he was released to throw down the government, he obviously failed since no one gave him any attention and radicalism is dead in Serbia...... now sending him back will not cause any issues because again no one cares about him, so send him back, it's very simple.

icj1

pre 9 godina

No one till now played, sick,stupid and intentionally interrupted the trial, over and over again.Think about it.
(the truth, 6 April 2015 17:58)

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.

Reader

pre 9 godina

So the future of the government of Serbia (according to Vulin and his theory about Seselj's release) now depends on a doctor's notice. This new excuse for not acting is hilarious. Vucic has great advisors. Wait, maybe it was Tony Blair's advice?

icj1

pre 9 godina

For some posters here, a "fair" trial for Seselj would have been one where his many motions were summarily dismissed by the judges without due process just to make the trial faster.
(icj1, 7 April 2015 02:25)

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

The prosecution says there is; Seselj says there's not. The Court is settling the matter. It's not going to be me or you to settle it.
----------

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.

---

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.

heyhey

pre 9 godina

. According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)
One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I Quote -

What Seselj or any accused says or not says doesnt matter !
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27)

In kangaroo court, yes, you are correct. But at the ICTY the accused has rights to say things in the form of motions that the judges must deliberate and deliver a decision on.
(icj1, 8 April 2015 04:17)

Comment - Dont You know the Juridical Systems ?

If Seselj says He is not Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He must be Proven Guilty beyond any Reasable Doubt.

Further .

If Seselj admit He is Guilty,
For a Guilty Verdict He mus Still be Proven Guilty Beyond any Reasonable doubt.

The Judges cant beyond any reasonable doubt know,
what has taken place withind the chain of command under Seseljs rule.
That is why Seselj contradicts them.

Further -

Is there proof Seselj is guilty or not ?
(Arn.Sweden., 7 April 2015 10:27) \

mate, not sure what the raving above means!!! Sounds like the writing of somebody who had fever - there are no logical connections between sentences and words :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

A kangaroo court actually permits the filing of motions to provide for a deceiving appearance of a fair and just trial, even though verdicts in reality are not based on evidence or law.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Ok... then what?!
----------

According to the ICTY's own Judge Harhoff, the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2015 16:36)

Please provide the evidence where Judge Harhoff stated that "the ICTY qualifies as such an organization since its decisions and judgments are based on external political diktat."

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(heyhey, 10 April 2015 19:30) One judge out of what 50 is critical of the ICTY and of course HE is the honest one! And in your mind that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What a true jurist you are.

---

The Judge was an inside whistleblower, not an internet commentator. Edward Snowden was only one out of 30000 employees, that blew the whistle on the NSA, so, yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.

heyhey

pre 9 godina

yes one out of 50 or one out of 30000 can serve as sufficient proof if it is authoritative.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 11 April 2015 05:30)
# Comment link

Especially if it is exactly what you WANT to hear!