New Greek government won't recognize Kosovo - ambassador

Go right ahead Greece, continue digging your own hole!!!
(Rocky, 25 March 2015 13:05)

Go right ahead Kosovo, continue leaving by the thousands. When did your parents leave for the US?

“New Greek government won't recognize Kosovo”

Бойся данайцев, дары приносящих ! Because it may be just one of the issues in the blackmail strategy to be changed as soon as they have the agreement over the debts.

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)

Referendum is in the territory like in South Sudan only ppl living there decide, Like Scotland, so sorry its not in all territory.

So lets have it any time u like but in Kosovo just as its intended but Serbia did not agree too that.

1. Greece has many problems right now
2. The time when Greece was "the pamper" of the Balkan have finished
3. Albania isn't anymore a communist country
4. If Albanians politicians are smart and i think they are, should
play very well the cards in their hands

Thanks for the clarification. And thanks for the link, Rocky. As I can read, only Albania recognized that 'Republic of Kosova' that was declared following the 1991 referendum.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 18:12)

Commie, your previous comment was In regards to Kosova's population not holding a referendum, correct? It originally had nothing to imply anything about how many recognitions the republic of Kosova received? However, I will shut you up one more time, since their was only 1 recognition of Kosova by Albania back in 1991, then explain the 108 recognitions of Kosova's declared independence in 2008!!! I'm sure your scratching your bold head about now, think a little harder you'll figure out something to say?

"Isn't a democracy suppose to support the free will & choice of the people, in this case the overwhelming majority population of the Republic of Kosova! "
(Rocky, 25 March 2015 13:05)

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.

Greece continues to sink herself into a self made hole!
A country like Greece, supposedly the first democracy???
Isn't a democracy suppose to support the free will & choice of the people, in this case the overwhelming majority population of the Republic of Kosova! It seems as if Greece was really never a true democracy, that is probably why her economy is in total turmoil, and with absolutely no positive outlook for the near future!
Go right ahead Greece, continue digging your own hole!!!

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)

Hey commie, Yugoslavia began its death roll in the late 1980s, there was no more Yugoslavia, there was no more of Serbia illegally holding its grip over any non Serb majority populated territory's, provinces, republics! The majority Albanian inhabited territory of Kosova had & has its majority population to hold referendums and voting!!! And for your statement on Obama, he was in fact quite right, As Kosova did hold a referendum on a split from Yugoslavia!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovan_independence_referendum,_1991
Now commie, scat & go find something better to do with your free
time!

"P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)"

There was a referendum in 1991 like in the rest of the former Yugoslavia. Then there was the recent decision by the government of Kosovo as elected representatives, that declared its independence from Serbia. So there was a referendum first, then 7-8 years later a war, and then only in 2008 did Kosovo declare and receive complete independence. It was a long process.

"There was a referendum in 1991 like in the rest of the former Yugoslavia. Then there was the recent decision by the government of Kosovo as elected representatives, that declared its independence from Serbia. "
(LK, 25 March 2015 16:29)

Thanks for the clarification. And thanks for the link, Rocky. As I can read, only Albania recognized that 'Republic of Kosova' that was declared following the 1991 referendum.

How can the new Greek government or any Greek government possible ever recognize Kosova?

Doing so would only acknowledge Chamria and Thessaloniki as being stolen from their rightful owners the Illyrian Albanians.

It would be like asking a white man to acknowledge the birth of a black child by his wife as being his own.

"Economides also said that Greece-Serbia relations are based on solid foundations.."

A person with that name shouldn't be Ambassador, but minister of Ecomomy

"It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide."

According to whom does it not mean that? You? Well, who the hell are you?

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. One Greek party leader said yesterday that Greece could recognize Kosovo if Albania gives them part of Albanian sea near Corfu :)

Greece said they will recognize Kosovo, when Albania will sign the maritime borders with Greece.
Albania and Greece signed an agreement about maritime borders back in 2009,but Albania Supreme Court abolished the agreement as unconstitutional.
Since then the agreement is back to square one.

So I don't think that Greece support Serbia rather they see their own interests.

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)
If you remember correctly while what was then Yugoslavia, later to become Serbia Montenegro called itself a democracy the land known as Kosovo was not, it was an oppressed "province" in which none of the majority of people had any rights at all. None of the break away sections of the original Yugoslavia, had referendums of the whole inorder to break away.
As far as referendums go seems to me there was a precedent of an oppressed colony whose chosen representatives also unilaterally declared independence and then a very costly war before the masters agreed that they were independent. This was in the 1700's.
Now Serbia chose NOT to go to war to retain Kosovo in contrast to Britain, that is the difference. Note that the US colonies were no match to the British forces UNTIL the French rendered their aid. Just like Kosovo forces would have been no match against Serbian forces but they already had an alliance that would have helped them, while 1244 would not have defended the UDI it would have defended Kosovo from any incursion of Serbian forces.

Someone is right. Why so many dislikes? Typical jealous Serbs, don't know their own history let alone others :) Time to move into reality, Chetniks!

(Asteri, 29 March 2015 23:25)
OHHH! But, do you know a lot of Greece "national heroes" who fought in 1825 are Albanians. Yes, Albanian help you, and you what are you doing?? Blame them!
Of course, thank you to "honor" them....
And please try to change the "Fustanella" is an Albanian TRADITION
COSTUME, try to find one yours...
Enough history have stole in 50 years of Albanian communist country.
'fustan + nella " - mean frock/dress men ( in Albanian )
What it mean in Greek - please?????
O my god, what a "carnage" is made with the history....
Pitifully!!!

@Peggy

You're really bad at put-downs

If Greeks and Albanians were smart like their ancestors before Serbs even existed, they would've formed their own country as the Arvanites wanted and today this area would be a better place. Greece may not officially recognise yet but they've defacto recgonised since a long time. Greek tourism sites even promote Pristina as "Europes newest capital". Oh well whilst Greece sides with the wrong people and Albanians avoid making contact with Greece, you two will be left behind as your Slavic neighbours advance.

(Asteri, 30 March 2015 21:22)
Hahahaa... un Italian word???? I'm sorry for you, but i speak Italian fluently.
And could you please say to me, what it mean in Italian???
Because i can! It have no meaning....
Italian don't have in their tradition "the fustanella".
Just Greeks and Albanians have it.

(Asteri, 31 March 2015 22:22)
What please??? Ajajaaa,...you have find a "word" in Italian?? Are you kiding me??
Do you know what it mean in Italian?? For you all must be Egiptian, Mogolian.., Italian.., African, etc etc..., just Albanian ...NOOOO!!!!
Fustan ( in Albanian ) - vestito ( in Italian )
- dress ( in English )
- haljina ( in serbian - if. g.trans it right )
Fustan + (the suffix ) nella - mean i Albanian folk - men dress
Try to find something most believable, please!

Bravo Greece! standing up to the German EU reich, the patron of the Albanians.

On 25 March 1821 Greece launched its successful revolt against the Tukic Albanians and made them pay the price.

Foustanela is an Italian word and the clothing was worn in Greece since ancient times - it has nothing to do with Albania

According to whom does it not mean that? You? Well, who the hell are you?
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 18:13)
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Now now, calm down. We don't want you to have a stroke and then not make any sense at all. Too late, it looks like it has already happened.

@Joni

Its an word that comes from the Italian word "Fustagno" named after a type of cloth from the Egyptian town Fustata.

Fustanella in Italian means lady's kilt from Fustata.

No doubt, Greece should hold stable to not recognizing this illegal albanian village of terrorists in serbian soil. Of course, Serbs keep calling the country of Skopje "Macedonia", in a total disrespect and disregard to their friends in Greece, but hey, let's not make a big deal out of it.

Greece continues to sink herself into a self made hole!
A country like Greece, supposedly the first democracy???
Isn't a democracy suppose to support the free will & choice of the people, in this case the overwhelming majority population of the Republic of Kosova! It seems as if Greece was really never a true democracy, that is probably why her economy is in total turmoil, and with absolutely no positive outlook for the near future!
Go right ahead Greece, continue digging your own hole!!!

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)

Hey commie, Yugoslavia began its death roll in the late 1980s, there was no more Yugoslavia, there was no more of Serbia illegally holding its grip over any non Serb majority populated territory's, provinces, republics! The majority Albanian inhabited territory of Kosova had & has its majority population to hold referendums and voting!!! And for your statement on Obama, he was in fact quite right, As Kosova did hold a referendum on a split from Yugoslavia!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovan_independence_referendum,_1991
Now commie, scat & go find something better to do with your free
time!

"It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide."

According to whom does it not mean that? You? Well, who the hell are you?

"P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)"

There was a referendum in 1991 like in the rest of the former Yugoslavia. Then there was the recent decision by the government of Kosovo as elected representatives, that declared its independence from Serbia. So there was a referendum first, then 7-8 years later a war, and then only in 2008 did Kosovo declare and receive complete independence. It was a long process.

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. One Greek party leader said yesterday that Greece could recognize Kosovo if Albania gives them part of Albanian sea near Corfu :)

"Isn't a democracy suppose to support the free will & choice of the people, in this case the overwhelming majority population of the Republic of Kosova! "
(Rocky, 25 March 2015 13:05)

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.

"Economides also said that Greece-Serbia relations are based on solid foundations.."

A person with that name shouldn't be Ambassador, but minister of Ecomomy

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)
If you remember correctly while what was then Yugoslavia, later to become Serbia Montenegro called itself a democracy the land known as Kosovo was not, it was an oppressed "province" in which none of the majority of people had any rights at all. None of the break away sections of the original Yugoslavia, had referendums of the whole inorder to break away.
As far as referendums go seems to me there was a precedent of an oppressed colony whose chosen representatives also unilaterally declared independence and then a very costly war before the masters agreed that they were independent. This was in the 1700's.
Now Serbia chose NOT to go to war to retain Kosovo in contrast to Britain, that is the difference. Note that the US colonies were no match to the British forces UNTIL the French rendered their aid. Just like Kosovo forces would have been no match against Serbian forces but they already had an alliance that would have helped them, while 1244 would not have defended the UDI it would have defended Kosovo from any incursion of Serbian forces.

Thanks for the clarification. And thanks for the link, Rocky. As I can read, only Albania recognized that 'Republic of Kosova' that was declared following the 1991 referendum.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 18:12)

Commie, your previous comment was In regards to Kosova's population not holding a referendum, correct? It originally had nothing to imply anything about how many recognitions the republic of Kosova received? However, I will shut you up one more time, since their was only 1 recognition of Kosova by Albania back in 1991, then explain the 108 recognitions of Kosova's declared independence in 2008!!! I'm sure your scratching your bold head about now, think a little harder you'll figure out something to say?

How can the new Greek government or any Greek government possible ever recognize Kosova?

Doing so would only acknowledge Chamria and Thessaloniki as being stolen from their rightful owners the Illyrian Albanians.

It would be like asking a white man to acknowledge the birth of a black child by his wife as being his own.

1. Greece has many problems right now
2. The time when Greece was "the pamper" of the Balkan have finished
3. Albania isn't anymore a communist country
4. If Albanians politicians are smart and i think they are, should
play very well the cards in their hands

"There was a referendum in 1991 like in the rest of the former Yugoslavia. Then there was the recent decision by the government of Kosovo as elected representatives, that declared its independence from Serbia. "
(LK, 25 March 2015 16:29)

Thanks for the clarification. And thanks for the link, Rocky. As I can read, only Albania recognized that 'Republic of Kosova' that was declared following the 1991 referendum.

If Greeks and Albanians were smart like their ancestors before Serbs even existed, they would've formed their own country as the Arvanites wanted and today this area would be a better place. Greece may not officially recognise yet but they've defacto recgonised since a long time. Greek tourism sites even promote Pristina as "Europes newest capital". Oh well whilst Greece sides with the wrong people and Albanians avoid making contact with Greece, you two will be left behind as your Slavic neighbours advance.

Greece said they will recognize Kosovo, when Albania will sign the maritime borders with Greece.
Albania and Greece signed an agreement about maritime borders back in 2009,but Albania Supreme Court abolished the agreement as unconstitutional.
Since then the agreement is back to square one.

So I don't think that Greece support Serbia rather they see their own interests.

Go right ahead Greece, continue digging your own hole!!!
(Rocky, 25 March 2015 13:05)

Go right ahead Kosovo, continue leaving by the thousands. When did your parents leave for the US?

“New Greek government won't recognize Kosovo”

Бойся данайцев, дары приносящих ! Because it may be just one of the issues in the blackmail strategy to be changed as soon as they have the agreement over the debts.

Yes, you got it, in a democracy, the majority decides. But your case is wrong. In this case, it would have been the majority of the former YU, i.e. the Republic of Serbia as the legal successor. It exactly does NOT mean that an (ethnic) minority located only on a PART of a territory can decide.

P.S: Maybe Obama believes it, but there was no referendum in Kosovo at all.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 March 2015 14:12)

Referendum is in the territory like in South Sudan only ppl living there decide, Like Scotland, so sorry its not in all territory.

So lets have it any time u like but in Kosovo just as its intended but Serbia did not agree too that.

Foustanela is an Italian word and the clothing was worn in Greece since ancient times - it has nothing to do with Albania

Someone is right. Why so many dislikes? Typical jealous Serbs, don't know their own history let alone others :) Time to move into reality, Chetniks!

Bravo Greece! standing up to the German EU reich, the patron of the Albanians.

On 25 March 1821 Greece launched its successful revolt against the Tukic Albanians and made them pay the price.

According to whom does it not mean that? You? Well, who the hell are you?
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 18:13)
=========================
Now now, calm down. We don't want you to have a stroke and then not make any sense at all. Too late, it looks like it has already happened.

@Joni

Its an word that comes from the Italian word "Fustagno" named after a type of cloth from the Egyptian town Fustata.

Fustanella in Italian means lady's kilt from Fustata.

(Asteri, 29 March 2015 23:25)
OHHH! But, do you know a lot of Greece "national heroes" who fought in 1825 are Albanians. Yes, Albanian help you, and you what are you doing?? Blame them!
Of course, thank you to "honor" them....
And please try to change the "Fustanella" is an Albanian TRADITION
COSTUME, try to find one yours...
Enough history have stole in 50 years of Albanian communist country.
'fustan + nella " - mean frock/dress men ( in Albanian )
What it mean in Greek - please?????
O my god, what a "carnage" is made with the history....
Pitifully!!!

@Peggy

You're really bad at put-downs

(Asteri, 30 March 2015 21:22)
Hahahaa... un Italian word???? I'm sorry for you, but i speak Italian fluently.
And could you please say to me, what it mean in Italian???
Because i can! It have no meaning....
Italian don't have in their tradition "the fustanella".
Just Greeks and Albanians have it.

(Asteri, 31 March 2015 22:22)
What please??? Ajajaaa,...you have find a "word" in Italian?? Are you kiding me??
Do you know what it mean in Italian?? For you all must be Egiptian, Mogolian.., Italian.., African, etc etc..., just Albanian ...NOOOO!!!!
Fustan ( in Albanian ) - vestito ( in Italian )
- dress ( in English )
- haljina ( in serbian - if. g.trans it right )
Fustan + (the suffix ) nella - mean i Albanian folk - men dress
Try to find something most believable, please!

No doubt, Greece should hold stable to not recognizing this illegal albanian village of terrorists in serbian soil. Of course, Serbs keep calling the country of Skopje "Macedonia", in a total disrespect and disregard to their friends in Greece, but hey, let's not make a big deal out of it.