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Tuesday, 24.03.2015.

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Serbia marks another anniversary of NATO attacks

Serbia is on Tuesday marking the 16th anniversary since the beginning of NATO's air war against the country, then a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!

Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)

Well, it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)

Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha

Joni

pre 9 godina

(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)

I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)

The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.

sj

pre 9 godina

Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing

Joni

pre 9 godina

(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).


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Dear Reader,

My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.

Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.

sj

pre 9 godina

pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

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Dear Ilir,

Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".

My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.

I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.

Joni

pre 9 godina

They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?
(Daniel, 25 March 2015 14:38)

They're autochthonous in their oun land. "
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?

Peace

pre 9 godina

Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.

delon

pre 9 godina

@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

NATO Air, Just do it!

Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up

SJ4

pre 9 godina

Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.

SJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

"Lets look at that assumption.."

While I don't say you are wrong I challenge your assumption based on two points:

1. The amount of Deleted Uranium left in Kosovo in 78 days of bombing is not nearly the same amount as the Iraq after 10 years.

2. The UN has actually examined this issue, and while the results were early the findings are pretty specific.

http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo

sj

pre 9 godina

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)

Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.

SJSJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.

TurboNator

pre 9 godina

"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?

1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.

2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.

EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!

icj1

pre 9 godina

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.

Dusan Silni

pre 9 godina

Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing

Ilir

pre 9 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)

Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)

sj

pre 9 godina

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

[link]
(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)

What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.

sj

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)

Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.

sj

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.

Really?

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.

think again

pre 9 godina

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.

robert

pre 9 godina

dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?

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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!

LK`

pre 9 godina

"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"

You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.

LK

pre 9 godina

"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"

Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.

My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.

Ratko

pre 9 godina

16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.

Mendo

pre 9 godina

Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong

LK

pre 9 godina

I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up

Joni

pre 9 godina

(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)

Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..

kaurIN

pre 9 godina

..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."

think again

pre 9 godina

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May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)

Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

sj

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.

SJSJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

http://wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!

Best regards from Republic of Kosova.

bob

pre 9 godina

Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)

@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer215/depleted-uranium-haunts-kosovo-iraq


http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)

Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.

John Abdilla

pre 9 godina

Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!

Demi

pre 9 godina

Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.

Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.

Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!

John Abdilla

pre 9 godina

Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!

Demi

pre 9 godina

Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.

Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.

Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)

Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.

Joni

pre 9 godina

(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)

Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!

Best regards from Republic of Kosova.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?

bob

pre 9 godina

Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)

@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?

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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up

Really?

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.

think again

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What's this?


May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)

Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

LK

pre 9 godina

"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"

Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.

LK`

pre 9 godina

"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"

You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.

Joni

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(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????

Mendo

pre 9 godina

Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.

LK

pre 9 godina

I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.

Joni

pre 9 godina

They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?
(Daniel, 25 March 2015 14:38)

They're autochthonous in their oun land. "
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer215/depleted-uranium-haunts-kosovo-iraq


http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

robert

pre 9 godina

dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.

Ratko

pre 9 godina

16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.

My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again

TurboNator

pre 9 godina

"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?

1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.

2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.

EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!

delon

pre 9 godina

@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.

SJSJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

http://wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing

sj

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong

sj

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)

Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.

SJSJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.

Ilir

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(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)

Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)

Dusan Silni

pre 9 godina

Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

NATO Air, Just do it!

Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)

Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha

sj

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.

sj

pre 9 godina

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

[link]
(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)

What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?

Joni

pre 9 godina

(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)

I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)

Well, it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

kaurIN

pre 9 godina

..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."

think again

pre 9 godina

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.

SJ4

pre 9 godina

Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

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Dear Ilir,

Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".

My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.

I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).

Daniel

pre 9 godina

A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)

The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.

SJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

"Lets look at that assumption.."

While I don't say you are wrong I challenge your assumption based on two points:

1. The amount of Deleted Uranium left in Kosovo in 78 days of bombing is not nearly the same amount as the Iraq after 10 years.

2. The UN has actually examined this issue, and while the results were early the findings are pretty specific.

http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

Peace

pre 9 godina

Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).


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Dear Reader,

My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.

Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!

Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.

sj

pre 9 godina

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)

Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.

sj

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pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.

sj

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(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo

sj

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Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.

Demi

pre 9 godina

Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.

Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.

Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!

Ilir

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(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!

Ilir

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Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!

Best regards from Republic of Kosova.

Joni

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(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)

Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.

John Abdilla

pre 9 godina

Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!

sj

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(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)

Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?

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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.

think again

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May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)

Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

Mendo

pre 9 godina

Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.

Ratko

pre 9 godina

16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?

sj

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.

LK

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"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.

Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"

Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again

sj

pre 9 godina

Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.

bob

pre 9 godina

Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)

@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!

LK

pre 9 godina

I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?

LK`

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"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"

You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.

sj

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.

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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.

My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.

TurboNator

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"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?

1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.

2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.

EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

NATO Air, Just do it!

Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.

http://www.merip.org/mer/mer215/depleted-uranium-haunts-kosovo-iraq


http://www.mintpressnews.com/depleted-uranium-iraq-wars-legacy-cancer/193338/

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.

Balkan Anthropologist

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killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)

Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?

sj

pre 9 godina

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

[link]
(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)

What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.

sj

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)

Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.

Balkan Anthropologist

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The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.

Really?

pre 9 godina

How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong

Dusan Silni

pre 9 godina

Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous

delon

pre 9 godina

@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).


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Dear Reader,

My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.

Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.

SJSJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "

Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?

http://wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country

think again

pre 9 godina

Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.

Ilir

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(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)

Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)

SJSJSJSJ

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"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.

sj

pre 9 godina

So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)

Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.

Joni

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They're autochthonous in their oun land. "

So if you say you didnt steal you admit that kosovo is still a part of Serbia right?
(Daniel, 25 March 2015 14:38)

They're autochthonous in their oun land. "
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....

sj

pre 9 godina

pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.

kaurIN

pre 9 godina

..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo

Amnesty Yugoslavia

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(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !

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Dear Ilir,

Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".

My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.

I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)

The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)

Well, it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)

Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha

robert

pre 9 godina

dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing

Joni

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(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????

icj1

pre 9 godina

I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)

Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.

SJ4

pre 9 godina

Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up

Peace

pre 9 godina

Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)

LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).

Joni

pre 9 godina

(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)

I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.

SJSJSJ

pre 9 godina

"Lets look at that assumption.."

While I don't say you are wrong I challenge your assumption based on two points:

1. The amount of Deleted Uranium left in Kosovo in 78 days of bombing is not nearly the same amount as the Iraq after 10 years.

2. The UN has actually examined this issue, and while the results were early the findings are pretty specific.

http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/uranium.pdf

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)

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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!

Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.