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Friday, 20.02.2015.

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Thaci explains why Albanians are leaving Kosovo

Hashim Thaci says that thousands of citizens from Kosovo have flocked to the West "because of rumors Germany was generously handing out work permits."

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Joni

pre 9 godina

(sj, 24 February 2015 13:13)
I can't deny what have you said below.
The Kosovo situation is complex, and i think the Kosovo people will suffer a lot.., but this situation will pass, not matter how much time it will take...
I think US need Albania as much as Russia need Serbia....
And both of them have committed a lot of crimes agains humanity, and you guys still kiss theis butts too.....
I think we have the same point of views in some directions...
But, the "truth" is relative.........

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 24 February 2015 08:34)

The truth is that Albanians in Kosovo were promised plenty, but the west delivered nothing except misery. The truth is that while some Serbs were responsible for Albanian deaths, the majority were killed by NATO bombs. The Truth is that the west to this day has not cleaned up parts of Kosovo so you still have depleted uranium.
The truth is that official records claim 30% unemployment in actual fact it’s more like 70% plus.
The truth is that Albanians are leaving Kosovo because there is nothing there for them. No work and no chance of ever getting anyone to move industry there. There are two ways of industry opening up in Kosovo.
The first is Brussels subsidises industry – no chance of that happening in the next 100 years. The second is Serbia willing to open branches of industry. As Mercedes is in Serbia, Belgrade convinces the company to manufacture certain parts in Kosovo like during the days of old Yugoslavia. And what do you think the chances are of that occurring?
Who cares what people think about Serbs? The US has committed more crimes and murdered millions and you guys still kiss their butts

Joni

pre 9 godina

Why disagree with the truth?
(sj, 23 February 2015 20:44)

The truth???
Which one???
Try to "be familiar" with yourself firstly...
A nation is estimated by his actions....
The migation is not a crime.......
Cause wars and destabilization of Balcans it is...
You fear you are judged by alls, and for this just "judge" and "attack" all the others...

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has "went" down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.
(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

It is unheard of anywhere other than in your mind. Btw, you should learn the difference between "went" and "gone".

Ari Goebbels doesn't even have enough imagination to come up with a lie that is plausible. It is so easy to verify Ari's propaganda is bogus. It is just another unsuccessful attempt at discrediting the Albanians of Kosova. He should enroll in a refresher course at the Tokyo Rose Institute of Misinformation, located at the bombed out Interior Ministry building in downtown Belgrade. By doing so, he can take his hate of Albanians to another level.

sj

pre 9 godina

(sj, 23 February 2015 11:40)
Woww....!! Finally, the supreme "creature" ....spoke!!!!!!
And gave his blessing...
(Joni, 23 February 2015 16:10)
Why disagree with the truth?

Joni

pre 9 godina

I think Kosovo have problems with corruption, unemployemt, with Serbia, with BE too...
They are an indipendent country, but they aren't a "free" country....
And the Kosovo people have realized that for the Kosovo..., it will take a long time to became part of BE, and for this reason people look for better opportunities... I think this is a transition period that will pass...but it will take its time.

sj

pre 9 godina

” that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life
(icj1, 22 February 2015 21:51)

The CTC has finally managed to put a couple of words together and too true and yes its LOL too.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

icj1

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.
(Gianfranco, 21 February 2015 12:17)

Let's make you happy and say that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life :)

Now, how does that help Serbia get Kosovo back lol

Sheik Ahmed Abu Hassan

pre 9 godina

"Young people are frustrated. They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

...or to sell and distribute drugs or deal with prostitution and human organs.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 9 godina

Whether or not it's true that corruption is rampant amongst the Kosovar government the worst case scenario is for any government or regime to pursue communism,totalitarianism or dictatorship (perhaps dictatorship can be equated with totalitarianism.) Speaking of communism as far as I'm concerned Kosovo doesn't want to pursue it unlike a nation that formerly was communist and it has a kinship with (Albania.)

I thought I'd ask since unemployment may very well be prevalent in Kosovo where some of its citizens are so desperate for employment that they resort to wanting to reside abroad my question is are there any Kosovar citizens so desperate that they want to settle or settle down in Canada or United States even though it's generally more costly to move to North America then other parts of Europe from a geographical perspective.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 21 February 2015 22:46)I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. ... Kosovo is a safe place. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic (sic) of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

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Dear Ilir, thank you very much for your optimistic post and outlook. I think we need more posts such as yours. My one question after reading about your Utopia is why does the EU want to erect permanent borders around you?

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Kosovo people are leaving because they are fooled by some stupid biased media. They gave information that the European countries are giving work permits, and that is true. In Kosovo, 40 % of people are officially unemployed. That number might be around 25% in reality, since many Kosovo companies do not officially give work contracts to the workers so they can escape paying taxes and pensions and so on. But still that's a huge problem for us just like it is for other countries who border us. And to some commenters below I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. You guys in Serbia think that we are living in a dream, but that is not true. Also, the situation is not bad as you think. Kosovo is a safe place. We live here freely with 6 different nationalities including the Serbs. Of course we have those bad moments and "sparks" sometimes , but generally we have no troubles with each other. Those things happen in many other countries. Kosovo is still a very young country. In my city, there are a majority of Albanian people 80%, and the rest are Serbians, Turks, Romes and Gorans. We have no problems or whatsoever with each other. And I am an Albanian myself and I have friends from all the above-mentioned nationalities. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

Josip

pre 9 godina

In reality he must be so happy that young employed men are leaving Kosovo. They are a potential powder keg that will at some point explode when they figure out that corruption, cronyism, and patronage are the reason they have no opportunities in Kosovo.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From LK: "And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?"

Totally disagree. While other countries from the former Yugoslavia experience some of the same problems they are not and have not experienced an exodus of the magnitude like that seen recently from Kosovo. What makes it more fascinating is the fact that the west chose to side with, arm and train a terrorist organization, the KLA, whose leaders now run Kosovo.

Kosovo is an entity that was built by NATO with the US and Germany leading the charge. This failed attempt at nation building can only be described as a disaster. The west's meddling in the former Yugoslav states of Croatia and B-H have yielded similar disastrous results. All are basket cases, barely surviving with western money. Tax dollars well spent. Nowhere however, have these conditions reached catastrophic proportions the way they have in Kosovo. I think Bill Clinton should replace Hasim Thaci and be forced to run Kosovo until it is a functioning state.

Ataman

pre 9 godina

What Thaçi said regarding "Begüßungsgeld" and residence permits is indeed the case. There were rumors that Germans give both to Albanians. That triggered the mass exodus.

Unwillingly I did "participate" and was witnessing it on the train. The illegals did not even try to cover up them self properly - they just openly walked in into arms of Hungarian and Austrian police. The percentage was about 30%-70%, i.e. about 30% Albanians and 70% Gypsies.

Not sure, the later can read in any language... so just hope they somehow get what Thaçi said.

The Red Cross and railway security guards are totally overwhelmed with the crowd, the trains were completely full. Very few made it to Germany - and who did are by now probably back in Kosovo. We have huge problems here with economy and politics and not enough that, there is that... Orbángutáng monkey polluting the area with his geci... please, stay away from us, we have nothing, but trouble of our own, no need for an import.

And sorry for that Orbángutáng, and Putin - I did not vote any of them in the office, they are my biggest shame. The sooner we see both in hell, the better.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.

rote

pre 9 godina

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo. (icj1, 20 February 2015 15:43)

Listen my dear Court , Russia cares the western “likes” no more. Besides Thaci to dislike something is a good sign as it means only that the US dislikes it. Ukraine is the south-west Russia where we have been attacked just like in 1941. Only the tools and the methods are different. Now that we took the challenge most peoples outside the Golden Billion do support us. But even if not we would in any case do the job. Those are our lands inhabited by our people so we are to take it whole. We have no choice as we cannot afford leaving even a small Russophobe Galicia out of our reach. Because the evil will be revived in the future to create problems for our children.

p.s. The running Albanians are this way voting against the USA and it EU suckers , don’t you find it ?
.

Kent Prince

pre 9 godina

Why would Germany hand out work permits to foreigners while Germany is going through a recession????
Come up with a better lie Thaci

marKo

pre 9 godina

This is sad. The EU looks down on people from the Balkans, and yet the people of the Balkans are ever hopeful that Europe will help them. The EU and the great powers only helps themselves.

LK

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's absurd, but it led to more people illegally traveling to Germany. Even some media in Kosovo in January published stories about people who in Germany apparently received apartments and work permits. Some, otherwise serious commentators argue that the states of Western Europe, due to the negative birth rate, are now inviting Kosovars to immigrate. This is not true, but it was the motive for the people to move," said Thaci.

Funny. If it would be so easy, why doesn't state media and officials doesn't present the truth and Kosovo politicians give statements about those 'rumours'? What comes next? Kosovo birth rate (which is on african levels already) exploding even more because of those rumors about 'negative birth rates'?

And, like always, not a single word about the bad living conditions for ordinary citizens, about the corruption and crime which were 'achieved' during his reign? And about 'Pristina is safe' and less criminality than in Germany - this can only be true if you exclude all the mafia crimes, which are obviously tolerated by the independent dream state of Kosovo and its organs of justice.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

Funny comment. Maybe hard to imagine for Thaci, but I think the ordinary Kosovo citizen (you know, those 70% who have to live from 1-2€/day) has other things to buy than a plane ticket for traveling to Berlin to attend a concert. It shows in what kind of dream world he is living.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.
(LK, 20 February 2015 15:08)

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.

LK

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

"Kosovo is safe. Pristina has lower crime rate than most German cities.

Kosovo maybe safe for Albanians but not for Serbs who are hunted, beaten, robbed and killed just for being Serbs. Truth is the West does not want Albanians in their midst.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh, that's very easy to get an answer for. Just ask Russia since they are there based on a decision approved by Russia.
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And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

If the only reason was "because of rumors Germany was generously handing out work permits", Hash would be cramming onto one of those buses too, but it's more than that. Albanians aren't leaving to be Gastarbeiters; they're leaving for good because they've given up on trying to make a living in a mafia-run narco-state dominated by five to ten families and their paying connections.

Don't know why he's complaining about why Albanians can't travel freely. If Kosovo were to be given visa-free travel, two-thirds of the territory's population would leave in a week.

rote

pre 9 godina

Thaci explains why Albanians are leaving Kosovo

I would prefer him to explain something else. How came that few years ago when he hinted for a tax for Bond Steel Base some American media placed information about his involvement to the organ trafficking and after that Pristina shut up about the money ? Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ? And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ? Time is against his regime so people leave this problematic region. They cannot hear this HALVA , HALVA mantras any longer and seek for a better life. Albanians and the Ukrainians were misguided the same way and nothing of the promised things have happened. So they are disappointed.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption.'
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/18/happy-kosovo-independence-day/#.VOUkTmITQIo.twitter

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption."

Thaci screwed his own people.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

"Kosovo is safe. Pristina has lower crime rate than most German cities.

Kosovo maybe safe for Albanians but not for Serbs who are hunted, beaten, robbed and killed just for being Serbs. Truth is the West does not want Albanians in their midst.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

If the only reason was "because of rumors Germany was generously handing out work permits", Hash would be cramming onto one of those buses too, but it's more than that. Albanians aren't leaving to be Gastarbeiters; they're leaving for good because they've given up on trying to make a living in a mafia-run narco-state dominated by five to ten families and their paying connections.

Don't know why he's complaining about why Albanians can't travel freely. If Kosovo were to be given visa-free travel, two-thirds of the territory's population would leave in a week.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

Funny comment. Maybe hard to imagine for Thaci, but I think the ordinary Kosovo citizen (you know, those 70% who have to live from 1-2€/day) has other things to buy than a plane ticket for traveling to Berlin to attend a concert. It shows in what kind of dream world he is living.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption.'
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/18/happy-kosovo-independence-day/#.VOUkTmITQIo.twitter

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption."

Thaci screwed his own people.

rote

pre 9 godina

Thaci explains why Albanians are leaving Kosovo

I would prefer him to explain something else. How came that few years ago when he hinted for a tax for Bond Steel Base some American media placed information about his involvement to the organ trafficking and after that Pristina shut up about the money ? Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ? And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ? Time is against his regime so people leave this problematic region. They cannot hear this HALVA , HALVA mantras any longer and seek for a better life. Albanians and the Ukrainians were misguided the same way and nothing of the promised things have happened. So they are disappointed.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.
(LK, 20 February 2015 15:08)

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's absurd, but it led to more people illegally traveling to Germany. Even some media in Kosovo in January published stories about people who in Germany apparently received apartments and work permits. Some, otherwise serious commentators argue that the states of Western Europe, due to the negative birth rate, are now inviting Kosovars to immigrate. This is not true, but it was the motive for the people to move," said Thaci.

Funny. If it would be so easy, why doesn't state media and officials doesn't present the truth and Kosovo politicians give statements about those 'rumours'? What comes next? Kosovo birth rate (which is on african levels already) exploding even more because of those rumors about 'negative birth rates'?

And, like always, not a single word about the bad living conditions for ordinary citizens, about the corruption and crime which were 'achieved' during his reign? And about 'Pristina is safe' and less criminality than in Germany - this can only be true if you exclude all the mafia crimes, which are obviously tolerated by the independent dream state of Kosovo and its organs of justice.

LK

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.

LK

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?

Kent Prince

pre 9 godina

Why would Germany hand out work permits to foreigners while Germany is going through a recession????
Come up with a better lie Thaci

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh, that's very easy to get an answer for. Just ask Russia since they are there based on a decision approved by Russia.
----------

And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo.

Josip

pre 9 godina

In reality he must be so happy that young employed men are leaving Kosovo. They are a potential powder keg that will at some point explode when they figure out that corruption, cronyism, and patronage are the reason they have no opportunities in Kosovo.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From LK: "And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?"

Totally disagree. While other countries from the former Yugoslavia experience some of the same problems they are not and have not experienced an exodus of the magnitude like that seen recently from Kosovo. What makes it more fascinating is the fact that the west chose to side with, arm and train a terrorist organization, the KLA, whose leaders now run Kosovo.

Kosovo is an entity that was built by NATO with the US and Germany leading the charge. This failed attempt at nation building can only be described as a disaster. The west's meddling in the former Yugoslav states of Croatia and B-H have yielded similar disastrous results. All are basket cases, barely surviving with western money. Tax dollars well spent. Nowhere however, have these conditions reached catastrophic proportions the way they have in Kosovo. I think Bill Clinton should replace Hasim Thaci and be forced to run Kosovo until it is a functioning state.

Sheik Ahmed Abu Hassan

pre 9 godina

"Young people are frustrated. They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

...or to sell and distribute drugs or deal with prostitution and human organs.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Kosovo people are leaving because they are fooled by some stupid biased media. They gave information that the European countries are giving work permits, and that is true. In Kosovo, 40 % of people are officially unemployed. That number might be around 25% in reality, since many Kosovo companies do not officially give work contracts to the workers so they can escape paying taxes and pensions and so on. But still that's a huge problem for us just like it is for other countries who border us. And to some commenters below I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. You guys in Serbia think that we are living in a dream, but that is not true. Also, the situation is not bad as you think. Kosovo is a safe place. We live here freely with 6 different nationalities including the Serbs. Of course we have those bad moments and "sparks" sometimes , but generally we have no troubles with each other. Those things happen in many other countries. Kosovo is still a very young country. In my city, there are a majority of Albanian people 80%, and the rest are Serbians, Turks, Romes and Gorans. We have no problems or whatsoever with each other. And I am an Albanian myself and I have friends from all the above-mentioned nationalities. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

icj1

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.
(Gianfranco, 21 February 2015 12:17)

Let's make you happy and say that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life :)

Now, how does that help Serbia get Kosovo back lol

marKo

pre 9 godina

This is sad. The EU looks down on people from the Balkans, and yet the people of the Balkans are ever hopeful that Europe will help them. The EU and the great powers only helps themselves.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 21 February 2015 22:46)I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. ... Kosovo is a safe place. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic (sic) of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

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Dear Ilir, thank you very much for your optimistic post and outlook. I think we need more posts such as yours. My one question after reading about your Utopia is why does the EU want to erect permanent borders around you?

Ataman

pre 9 godina

What Thaçi said regarding "Begüßungsgeld" and residence permits is indeed the case. There were rumors that Germans give both to Albanians. That triggered the mass exodus.

Unwillingly I did "participate" and was witnessing it on the train. The illegals did not even try to cover up them self properly - they just openly walked in into arms of Hungarian and Austrian police. The percentage was about 30%-70%, i.e. about 30% Albanians and 70% Gypsies.

Not sure, the later can read in any language... so just hope they somehow get what Thaçi said.

The Red Cross and railway security guards are totally overwhelmed with the crowd, the trains were completely full. Very few made it to Germany - and who did are by now probably back in Kosovo. We have huge problems here with economy and politics and not enough that, there is that... Orbángutáng monkey polluting the area with his geci... please, stay away from us, we have nothing, but trouble of our own, no need for an import.

And sorry for that Orbángutáng, and Putin - I did not vote any of them in the office, they are my biggest shame. The sooner we see both in hell, the better.

rote

pre 9 godina

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo. (icj1, 20 February 2015 15:43)

Listen my dear Court , Russia cares the western “likes” no more. Besides Thaci to dislike something is a good sign as it means only that the US dislikes it. Ukraine is the south-west Russia where we have been attacked just like in 1941. Only the tools and the methods are different. Now that we took the challenge most peoples outside the Golden Billion do support us. But even if not we would in any case do the job. Those are our lands inhabited by our people so we are to take it whole. We have no choice as we cannot afford leaving even a small Russophobe Galicia out of our reach. Because the evil will be revived in the future to create problems for our children.

p.s. The running Albanians are this way voting against the USA and it EU suckers , don’t you find it ?
.

sj

pre 9 godina

” that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life
(icj1, 22 February 2015 21:51)

The CTC has finally managed to put a couple of words together and too true and yes its LOL too.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 9 godina

Whether or not it's true that corruption is rampant amongst the Kosovar government the worst case scenario is for any government or regime to pursue communism,totalitarianism or dictatorship (perhaps dictatorship can be equated with totalitarianism.) Speaking of communism as far as I'm concerned Kosovo doesn't want to pursue it unlike a nation that formerly was communist and it has a kinship with (Albania.)

I thought I'd ask since unemployment may very well be prevalent in Kosovo where some of its citizens are so desperate for employment that they resort to wanting to reside abroad my question is are there any Kosovar citizens so desperate that they want to settle or settle down in Canada or United States even though it's generally more costly to move to North America then other parts of Europe from a geographical perspective.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has "went" down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.
(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

It is unheard of anywhere other than in your mind. Btw, you should learn the difference between "went" and "gone".

Ari Goebbels doesn't even have enough imagination to come up with a lie that is plausible. It is so easy to verify Ari's propaganda is bogus. It is just another unsuccessful attempt at discrediting the Albanians of Kosova. He should enroll in a refresher course at the Tokyo Rose Institute of Misinformation, located at the bombed out Interior Ministry building in downtown Belgrade. By doing so, he can take his hate of Albanians to another level.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 24 February 2015 08:34)

The truth is that Albanians in Kosovo were promised plenty, but the west delivered nothing except misery. The truth is that while some Serbs were responsible for Albanian deaths, the majority were killed by NATO bombs. The Truth is that the west to this day has not cleaned up parts of Kosovo so you still have depleted uranium.
The truth is that official records claim 30% unemployment in actual fact it’s more like 70% plus.
The truth is that Albanians are leaving Kosovo because there is nothing there for them. No work and no chance of ever getting anyone to move industry there. There are two ways of industry opening up in Kosovo.
The first is Brussels subsidises industry – no chance of that happening in the next 100 years. The second is Serbia willing to open branches of industry. As Mercedes is in Serbia, Belgrade convinces the company to manufacture certain parts in Kosovo like during the days of old Yugoslavia. And what do you think the chances are of that occurring?
Who cares what people think about Serbs? The US has committed more crimes and murdered millions and you guys still kiss their butts

Joni

pre 9 godina

I think Kosovo have problems with corruption, unemployemt, with Serbia, with BE too...
They are an indipendent country, but they aren't a "free" country....
And the Kosovo people have realized that for the Kosovo..., it will take a long time to became part of BE, and for this reason people look for better opportunities... I think this is a transition period that will pass...but it will take its time.

sj

pre 9 godina

(sj, 23 February 2015 11:40)
Woww....!! Finally, the supreme "creature" ....spoke!!!!!!
And gave his blessing...
(Joni, 23 February 2015 16:10)
Why disagree with the truth?

Joni

pre 9 godina

Why disagree with the truth?
(sj, 23 February 2015 20:44)

The truth???
Which one???
Try to "be familiar" with yourself firstly...
A nation is estimated by his actions....
The migation is not a crime.......
Cause wars and destabilization of Balcans it is...
You fear you are judged by alls, and for this just "judge" and "attack" all the others...

Joni

pre 9 godina

(sj, 24 February 2015 13:13)
I can't deny what have you said below.
The Kosovo situation is complex, and i think the Kosovo people will suffer a lot.., but this situation will pass, not matter how much time it will take...
I think US need Albania as much as Russia need Serbia....
And both of them have committed a lot of crimes agains humanity, and you guys still kiss theis butts too.....
I think we have the same point of views in some directions...
But, the "truth" is relative.........

LK

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

"Kosovo is safe. Pristina has lower crime rate than most German cities.

Kosovo maybe safe for Albanians but not for Serbs who are hunted, beaten, robbed and killed just for being Serbs. Truth is the West does not want Albanians in their midst.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Kosovo people are leaving because they are fooled by some stupid biased media. They gave information that the European countries are giving work permits, and that is true. In Kosovo, 40 % of people are officially unemployed. That number might be around 25% in reality, since many Kosovo companies do not officially give work contracts to the workers so they can escape paying taxes and pensions and so on. But still that's a huge problem for us just like it is for other countries who border us. And to some commenters below I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. You guys in Serbia think that we are living in a dream, but that is not true. Also, the situation is not bad as you think. Kosovo is a safe place. We live here freely with 6 different nationalities including the Serbs. Of course we have those bad moments and "sparks" sometimes , but generally we have no troubles with each other. Those things happen in many other countries. Kosovo is still a very young country. In my city, there are a majority of Albanian people 80%, and the rest are Serbians, Turks, Romes and Gorans. We have no problems or whatsoever with each other. And I am an Albanian myself and I have friends from all the above-mentioned nationalities. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Same reason people have left Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, and Montenegro, etc.....no jobs, corrupt and nationalist politicians, and a bleak future.
(LK, 20 February 2015 15:08)

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

If the only reason was "because of rumors Germany was generously handing out work permits", Hash would be cramming onto one of those buses too, but it's more than that. Albanians aren't leaving to be Gastarbeiters; they're leaving for good because they've given up on trying to make a living in a mafia-run narco-state dominated by five to ten families and their paying connections.

Don't know why he's complaining about why Albanians can't travel freely. If Kosovo were to be given visa-free travel, two-thirds of the territory's population would leave in a week.

rote

pre 9 godina

Thaci explains why Albanians are leaving Kosovo

I would prefer him to explain something else. How came that few years ago when he hinted for a tax for Bond Steel Base some American media placed information about his involvement to the organ trafficking and after that Pristina shut up about the money ? Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ? And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ? Time is against his regime so people leave this problematic region. They cannot hear this HALVA , HALVA mantras any longer and seek for a better life. Albanians and the Ukrainians were misguided the same way and nothing of the promised things have happened. So they are disappointed.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Also how came that the peacekeepers in KIM de facto turned into NATO occupation troops ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh, that's very easy to get an answer for. Just ask Russia since they are there based on a decision approved by Russia.
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And does he understand that the events in Ukraine leave him no chance that Serbia will be the first to wink ?
(rote, 20 February 2015 14:05)

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's absurd, but it led to more people illegally traveling to Germany. Even some media in Kosovo in January published stories about people who in Germany apparently received apartments and work permits. Some, otherwise serious commentators argue that the states of Western Europe, due to the negative birth rate, are now inviting Kosovars to immigrate. This is not true, but it was the motive for the people to move," said Thaci.

Funny. If it would be so easy, why doesn't state media and officials doesn't present the truth and Kosovo politicians give statements about those 'rumours'? What comes next? Kosovo birth rate (which is on african levels already) exploding even more because of those rumors about 'negative birth rates'?

And, like always, not a single word about the bad living conditions for ordinary citizens, about the corruption and crime which were 'achieved' during his reign? And about 'Pristina is safe' and less criminality than in Germany - this can only be true if you exclude all the mafia crimes, which are obviously tolerated by the independent dream state of Kosovo and its organs of justice.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

Funny comment. Maybe hard to imagine for Thaci, but I think the ordinary Kosovo citizen (you know, those 70% who have to live from 1-2€/day) has other things to buy than a plane ticket for traveling to Berlin to attend a concert. It shows in what kind of dream world he is living.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption.'
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/february/18/happy-kosovo-independence-day/#.VOUkTmITQIo.twitter

"The last official in charge of privatizing Kosovo’s state-own industries, Blerim Rexha,had to resign after questions were raised when the agency sold off entire industries on the cheap to buyers with political connections. The previous privatization minister had been found dead at home with 11 stab wounds – officially ruled a "suicide." Under Prime Minister Hacim Thaci, leader of the KLA, and his Democratic Party, the wholesale looting of the economy took place: not only the privatization agency but also the Central Bank (whose chieftain was arrested), and virtually every other government body is rife with corruption."

Thaci screwed his own people.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Ilir, 21 February 2015 22:46)I want to say that Kosovo people are living normally. ... Kosovo is a safe place. I'm sorry for you serbian fellows, but you are really brainwashed by your media, and that's not your fault. That's really sad. Your politics suck and they always did. Greetings from Republic (sic) of Kosovo for you serbian fellows. Peace!

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Dear Ilir, thank you very much for your optimistic post and outlook. I think we need more posts such as yours. My one question after reading about your Utopia is why does the EU want to erect permanent borders around you?

icj1

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.
(Gianfranco, 21 February 2015 12:17)

Let's make you happy and say that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life :)

Now, how does that help Serbia get Kosovo back lol

sj

pre 9 godina

” that's true and that Albanians are the lowest of the lowest form of life
(icj1, 22 February 2015 21:51)

The CTC has finally managed to put a couple of words together and too true and yes its LOL too.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

LK

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has went down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?

njegos

pre 9 godina

From LK: "And why are they leaving? Corrupt politicians, high unemployment, and a lack of a future. Those are the same problems that plague most of the former Yugoslavia and other parts of the region. Notice that is not saying every country is the same or equal in that regard, only that they experience many of the same problems. Agree or disagree?"

Totally disagree. While other countries from the former Yugoslavia experience some of the same problems they are not and have not experienced an exodus of the magnitude like that seen recently from Kosovo. What makes it more fascinating is the fact that the west chose to side with, arm and train a terrorist organization, the KLA, whose leaders now run Kosovo.

Kosovo is an entity that was built by NATO with the US and Germany leading the charge. This failed attempt at nation building can only be described as a disaster. The west's meddling in the former Yugoslav states of Croatia and B-H have yielded similar disastrous results. All are basket cases, barely surviving with western money. Tax dollars well spent. Nowhere however, have these conditions reached catastrophic proportions the way they have in Kosovo. I think Bill Clinton should replace Hasim Thaci and be forced to run Kosovo until it is a functioning state.

Sheik Ahmed Abu Hassan

pre 9 godina

"Young people are frustrated. They are an hour's plane flight away from Germany, but cannot visit Berlin, to attend a concert or as exchange students," explained Thaci.

...or to sell and distribute drugs or deal with prostitution and human organs.

sj

pre 9 godina

(sj, 23 February 2015 11:40)
Woww....!! Finally, the supreme "creature" ....spoke!!!!!!
And gave his blessing...
(Joni, 23 February 2015 16:10)
Why disagree with the truth?

Kent Prince

pre 9 godina

Why would Germany hand out work permits to foreigners while Germany is going through a recession????
Come up with a better lie Thaci

rote

pre 9 godina

Oh course he doesn't like you don't and almost everybody else doesn't because the events in Ukraine mean nothing for Kosovo. (icj1, 20 February 2015 15:43)

Listen my dear Court , Russia cares the western “likes” no more. Besides Thaci to dislike something is a good sign as it means only that the US dislikes it. Ukraine is the south-west Russia where we have been attacked just like in 1941. Only the tools and the methods are different. Now that we took the challenge most peoples outside the Golden Billion do support us. But even if not we would in any case do the job. Those are our lands inhabited by our people so we are to take it whole. We have no choice as we cannot afford leaving even a small Russophobe Galicia out of our reach. Because the evil will be revived in the future to create problems for our children.

p.s. The running Albanians are this way voting against the USA and it EU suckers , don’t you find it ?
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Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

They are leaving because led by criminals and robbers, like Thaci is.
Another fact is that albanians cannot create a government, a state, a community: their tribal attitude leading to poverty and immigration has already been proved. After the fall of communism, Albania itself saw many leaving it country to Western ones. Albanians can't create an economy, a society, a legal system. This is why they escape. They need others to lead them. Without others, albanians are just savages that live in lawless systems. Like Albania and the stolen Kosovo are.
The number of albanian people detained in European jails say a lot about this attitude. They don't know what state of law is.

Ataman

pre 9 godina

What Thaçi said regarding "Begüßungsgeld" and residence permits is indeed the case. There were rumors that Germans give both to Albanians. That triggered the mass exodus.

Unwillingly I did "participate" and was witnessing it on the train. The illegals did not even try to cover up them self properly - they just openly walked in into arms of Hungarian and Austrian police. The percentage was about 30%-70%, i.e. about 30% Albanians and 70% Gypsies.

Not sure, the later can read in any language... so just hope they somehow get what Thaçi said.

The Red Cross and railway security guards are totally overwhelmed with the crowd, the trains were completely full. Very few made it to Germany - and who did are by now probably back in Kosovo. We have huge problems here with economy and politics and not enough that, there is that... Orbángutáng monkey polluting the area with his geci... please, stay away from us, we have nothing, but trouble of our own, no need for an import.

And sorry for that Orbángutáng, and Putin - I did not vote any of them in the office, they are my biggest shame. The sooner we see both in hell, the better.

Josip

pre 9 godina

In reality he must be so happy that young employed men are leaving Kosovo. They are a potential powder keg that will at some point explode when they figure out that corruption, cronyism, and patronage are the reason they have no opportunities in Kosovo.

Joni

pre 9 godina

I think Kosovo have problems with corruption, unemployemt, with Serbia, with BE too...
They are an indipendent country, but they aren't a "free" country....
And the Kosovo people have realized that for the Kosovo..., it will take a long time to became part of BE, and for this reason people look for better opportunities... I think this is a transition period that will pass...but it will take its time.

marKo

pre 9 godina

This is sad. The EU looks down on people from the Balkans, and yet the people of the Balkans are ever hopeful that Europe will help them. The EU and the great powers only helps themselves.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Are you kidding me?! How is that the same?? The population of Kosovo-Metohija has "went" down 10-13% in the span of 2 months! That is unheard of anywhere in the world.
(Ari Gold, 20 February 2015 15:31)

It is unheard of anywhere other than in your mind. Btw, you should learn the difference between "went" and "gone".

Ari Goebbels doesn't even have enough imagination to come up with a lie that is plausible. It is so easy to verify Ari's propaganda is bogus. It is just another unsuccessful attempt at discrediting the Albanians of Kosova. He should enroll in a refresher course at the Tokyo Rose Institute of Misinformation, located at the bombed out Interior Ministry building in downtown Belgrade. By doing so, he can take his hate of Albanians to another level.

Joni

pre 9 godina

Why disagree with the truth?
(sj, 23 February 2015 20:44)

The truth???
Which one???
Try to "be familiar" with yourself firstly...
A nation is estimated by his actions....
The migation is not a crime.......
Cause wars and destabilization of Balcans it is...
You fear you are judged by alls, and for this just "judge" and "attack" all the others...

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 24 February 2015 08:34)

The truth is that Albanians in Kosovo were promised plenty, but the west delivered nothing except misery. The truth is that while some Serbs were responsible for Albanian deaths, the majority were killed by NATO bombs. The Truth is that the west to this day has not cleaned up parts of Kosovo so you still have depleted uranium.
The truth is that official records claim 30% unemployment in actual fact it’s more like 70% plus.
The truth is that Albanians are leaving Kosovo because there is nothing there for them. No work and no chance of ever getting anyone to move industry there. There are two ways of industry opening up in Kosovo.
The first is Brussels subsidises industry – no chance of that happening in the next 100 years. The second is Serbia willing to open branches of industry. As Mercedes is in Serbia, Belgrade convinces the company to manufacture certain parts in Kosovo like during the days of old Yugoslavia. And what do you think the chances are of that occurring?
Who cares what people think about Serbs? The US has committed more crimes and murdered millions and you guys still kiss their butts

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada

pre 9 godina

Whether or not it's true that corruption is rampant amongst the Kosovar government the worst case scenario is for any government or regime to pursue communism,totalitarianism or dictatorship (perhaps dictatorship can be equated with totalitarianism.) Speaking of communism as far as I'm concerned Kosovo doesn't want to pursue it unlike a nation that formerly was communist and it has a kinship with (Albania.)

I thought I'd ask since unemployment may very well be prevalent in Kosovo where some of its citizens are so desperate for employment that they resort to wanting to reside abroad my question is are there any Kosovar citizens so desperate that they want to settle or settle down in Canada or United States even though it's generally more costly to move to North America then other parts of Europe from a geographical perspective.

Joni

pre 9 godina

(sj, 24 February 2015 13:13)
I can't deny what have you said below.
The Kosovo situation is complex, and i think the Kosovo people will suffer a lot.., but this situation will pass, not matter how much time it will take...
I think US need Albania as much as Russia need Serbia....
And both of them have committed a lot of crimes agains humanity, and you guys still kiss theis butts too.....
I think we have the same point of views in some directions...
But, the "truth" is relative.........