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Russia "doing everything to prevent European war"

Russia is "doing everything to prevent a European war," Russian Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Konstantin Kosachev has said.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47) Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

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It depends on what is meant by "run out of cash". I think we can all confess that the US treasury has run out of cash and has been in deficit for many decades. The US Federal Reserve is printing money at a rate unprecedented in the economic history of any nation. There isn't even a good agreement as to how many tens of trillions of dollars have gushed out of the US federal reserve and entirely bypassed the US treasury.

That the US Federal Reserve is no longer focused on Monetary policy and has an essential role in fiscal policy speaks volumes about the (in)stability of the US economy.

icj1 also stated that the US does not "control" Europe. Most notably, the unprecedented US bailouts that started in 2008 required the rescue of many European banks by the US Federal Reserve.
Money to EU banks(!) from the US Federal Reserve can be found on page 131 of the July 2011 GAO Audit:
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion
and many many more including banks in Belgium of all places

icj1

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.
(sj, 19 February 2015 13:40)

Thx! While I'm still honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, all credit for the creativity and the very vivid imagination and conspiracy theories goes to our dear friend Peggy - I'd never take credit for somebody's else hard work :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:48)

As usual the CTC has posted something that only he understands i.e “a certain sj” then ..”you who are the CE of B92 forums”. This is either a sign of poor language skills trying to convey the message in a more sophisticated way but failing dramatically or illness of some kind. However, I’m sure he has analysed this and come to the same conclusion of 2+2=72. That’s why he is the CTC.
P.S CTC= Chief Toilet Cleaner

sj

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:51)

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:37)

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47)

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.

sj

pre 9 godina

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

rote

pre 9 godina

LK



IDIOTISM IS NOT TREATED SO THE BELOW COMMENTS ARE NOT FOR YOU :


1/ USSR entered Poland next day after their government flew to London. USSR moved not an inch outside the Russian lands occupied 19 years before WW2.

2/ We have liberated the Europeans but for some time we had to occupy the lands to clean them from the fascists. After WW2 1 300 000 Europeans were imprisoned for the crimes during the Nazi.

3/ In 1968 we got a CIA Otpor kind revolt in Czechoslovakia so 5 of the Warsaw Pact states entered there to restore the constitutional order. CIA stood behind it.

4/ In 1956 Soviet troops entered Hungary to stop the started civil war between the Horti’s fascists and the Communists of Kadar Yanosh. Before the Soviets restored peace the Magyars already killed 2500 of each other. Austria stood behind the events because the CIA said so.

5/ In Moldova Russian 14-th army stopped the war very effectively with just one statement of the late General Lieutenant Alexander Lebed and it’s been 20 years that nobody dares to violate the peace here. Neither they are going to join Romania or EU.

6/ Everybody in the west including UNSC , EU , NATO , OSCE acknowledged that it was Georgia who had launched the 4 day war of 08.08.08. By the way Saakashvili hunted by the Interpol had launched 2 wars. One on the day of opening the Athens Olympics and second on opening of the Beijing games. The US State Department stood behind him.

SO STOP WASHING US BRAINS !

icj1

pre 9 godina

Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.
(Leonidas, 17 February 2015 11:04)

Poroshenko fighting vs some Ukrainian rebels would be WWIII?!!!! The maximum that could happen is that the rebels take over Kiev or that Poroshenko takes over Donetsk and Luhansk. WWIII would be if Russia is involved.

Reminder: According to the Kremlin, Russia is not involved in the fighting in Ukraine. I hope that you're not an idiot to believe that, but regardless you still must make an effort when writing to not let any direct or implied indication to the contrary slip out. I know it's hard, but you must try :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
(sj, 17 February 2015 10:55)

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Oh, dear, your ignorance knows no limits :) Fortunately, the US is not like Russia or other countries similar to it who elevate leaders to the level of God. War or no war, whether a successful leader or not, Obama's last day in office will be 20 January 2017, at the latest, because the US Constitution says so.
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Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha

Peggy

pre 9 godina

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 February 2015 14:45)
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That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
He is not done with propping up The Muslim Brotherhood to power yet. Egypt being succesful in resisting this has become an obsticle and delayed this quite a bit.
Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.

LK

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia has always tried to prevent war in Europe. First by invading Poland to start WWII, then occupying hundreds of millions of eastern European lands during the Cold War, including military adventures in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. Then after the Cold War,they helped prevent war in Moldova and Georgia by occupying more land and supporting separatists. And now they're preventing war in Ukraine by sending in weapons, fighters, and ammo. Good old Russia, always trying to prevent war in Europe.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Russia is "doing everything to prevent a European war," Russian Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Konstantin Kosachev has said.

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.

Nenad

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia annexing Crimea was certainly a peaceful move, and it lends much credibility to Russian denial of further involvement in stoking war in Ukraine. Shameless.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Am, its odd because during the 1990s it was Serbia that did all of the attacking! As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Rocky - I Quote -

As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!
(Rocky, 17 February 2015 13:35)

Comment -

I spoke to one of the USK leaders in the Nineties and,
He was a Victim of History falsification as you now are also.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Leonidas !.

The Conflict will escalate and trigger the Beginning of the Apokalypse in the Balkans,

(Revelation 6 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer.)

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

In short.

Arn.Sweden.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

War is unavoidable.
Arn

You could be righr Arn. The US Government has been in the business of destroying countries and using NATO as it principle instrument. That was stated more than a decade ago by then US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and later by General Wesley Clark. The Pentagon drew up a list of 7 states that were to be destroyed: Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Syria and they have systematically proceeded to destroy all of the countries on the list. The strategy in Ukraine is the same, US/NATO/EU are promoting the destabilization and the breakup of Ukraine in order to achieve the NATO goal of moving into Ukrainian territory closer to Russia. Russia haters like Zbignew Brzezinski and Richard Pipes want to breakup Russia into approximately 68 parts and have placed their protégés in key US foreign policy posts. Brezezinski has staffed the Obama administration with his acolytes and protégées, including the US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, a specialist in colour revolutions. At the end of the day the US plan is to see the breakup of the Russian Federation, that is their goal. Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.

sj

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
My money is on Russia. The US neither has the financial resources nor military might anymore so it’s another back down in the end. The US is now entangled in so many conflicts even with all of its western partners they are unable to win, but the humorous part is that it’s all of their own making.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

The US will rise the Ante so,
War is unavoidable.

Obama will though learn that Russia will not back down,
so He Himself will have to.

Russia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

sj

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
My money is on Russia. The US neither has the financial resources nor military might anymore so it’s another back down in the end. The US is now entangled in so many conflicts even with all of its western partners they are unable to win, but the humorous part is that it’s all of their own making.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

War is unavoidable.
Arn

You could be righr Arn. The US Government has been in the business of destroying countries and using NATO as it principle instrument. That was stated more than a decade ago by then US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and later by General Wesley Clark. The Pentagon drew up a list of 7 states that were to be destroyed: Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Syria and they have systematically proceeded to destroy all of the countries on the list. The strategy in Ukraine is the same, US/NATO/EU are promoting the destabilization and the breakup of Ukraine in order to achieve the NATO goal of moving into Ukrainian territory closer to Russia. Russia haters like Zbignew Brzezinski and Richard Pipes want to breakup Russia into approximately 68 parts and have placed their protégés in key US foreign policy posts. Brezezinski has staffed the Obama administration with his acolytes and protégées, including the US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, a specialist in colour revolutions. At the end of the day the US plan is to see the breakup of the Russian Federation, that is their goal. Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

The US will rise the Ante so,
War is unavoidable.

Obama will though learn that Russia will not back down,
so He Himself will have to.

Russia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

Nenad

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia annexing Crimea was certainly a peaceful move, and it lends much credibility to Russian denial of further involvement in stoking war in Ukraine. Shameless.

LK

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia has always tried to prevent war in Europe. First by invading Poland to start WWII, then occupying hundreds of millions of eastern European lands during the Cold War, including military adventures in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. Then after the Cold War,they helped prevent war in Moldova and Georgia by occupying more land and supporting separatists. And now they're preventing war in Ukraine by sending in weapons, fighters, and ammo. Good old Russia, always trying to prevent war in Europe.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Am, its odd because during the 1990s it was Serbia that did all of the attacking! As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Leonidas !.

The Conflict will escalate and trigger the Beginning of the Apokalypse in the Balkans,

(Revelation 6 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer.)

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

In short.

Arn.Sweden.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Rocky - I Quote -

As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!
(Rocky, 17 February 2015 13:35)

Comment -

I spoke to one of the USK leaders in the Nineties and,
He was a Victim of History falsification as you now are also.

Arn.Sweden.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 February 2015 14:45)
===============================
That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
He is not done with propping up The Muslim Brotherhood to power yet. Egypt being succesful in resisting this has become an obsticle and delayed this quite a bit.
Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Russia is "doing everything to prevent a European war," Russian Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Konstantin Kosachev has said.

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.

rote

pre 9 godina

LK



IDIOTISM IS NOT TREATED SO THE BELOW COMMENTS ARE NOT FOR YOU :


1/ USSR entered Poland next day after their government flew to London. USSR moved not an inch outside the Russian lands occupied 19 years before WW2.

2/ We have liberated the Europeans but for some time we had to occupy the lands to clean them from the fascists. After WW2 1 300 000 Europeans were imprisoned for the crimes during the Nazi.

3/ In 1968 we got a CIA Otpor kind revolt in Czechoslovakia so 5 of the Warsaw Pact states entered there to restore the constitutional order. CIA stood behind it.

4/ In 1956 Soviet troops entered Hungary to stop the started civil war between the Horti’s fascists and the Communists of Kadar Yanosh. Before the Soviets restored peace the Magyars already killed 2500 of each other. Austria stood behind the events because the CIA said so.

5/ In Moldova Russian 14-th army stopped the war very effectively with just one statement of the late General Lieutenant Alexander Lebed and it’s been 20 years that nobody dares to violate the peace here. Neither they are going to join Romania or EU.

6/ Everybody in the west including UNSC , EU , NATO , OSCE acknowledged that it was Georgia who had launched the 4 day war of 08.08.08. By the way Saakashvili hunted by the Interpol had launched 2 wars. One on the day of opening the Athens Olympics and second on opening of the Beijing games. The US State Department stood behind him.

SO STOP WASHING US BRAINS !

sj

pre 9 godina

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47)

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:37)

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
(sj, 17 February 2015 10:55)

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

icj1

pre 9 godina

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:51)

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:48)

As usual the CTC has posted something that only he understands i.e “a certain sj” then ..”you who are the CE of B92 forums”. This is either a sign of poor language skills trying to convey the message in a more sophisticated way but failing dramatically or illness of some kind. However, I’m sure he has analysed this and come to the same conclusion of 2+2=72. That’s why he is the CTC.
P.S CTC= Chief Toilet Cleaner

sj

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.

icj1

pre 9 godina

That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Oh, dear, your ignorance knows no limits :) Fortunately, the US is not like Russia or other countries similar to it who elevate leaders to the level of God. War or no war, whether a successful leader or not, Obama's last day in office will be 20 January 2017, at the latest, because the US Constitution says so.
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Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha

icj1

pre 9 godina

Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.
(Leonidas, 17 February 2015 11:04)

Poroshenko fighting vs some Ukrainian rebels would be WWIII?!!!! The maximum that could happen is that the rebels take over Kiev or that Poroshenko takes over Donetsk and Luhansk. WWIII would be if Russia is involved.

Reminder: According to the Kremlin, Russia is not involved in the fighting in Ukraine. I hope that you're not an idiot to believe that, but regardless you still must make an effort when writing to not let any direct or implied indication to the contrary slip out. I know it's hard, but you must try :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.
(sj, 19 February 2015 13:40)

Thx! While I'm still honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, all credit for the creativity and the very vivid imagination and conspiracy theories goes to our dear friend Peggy - I'd never take credit for somebody's else hard work :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47) Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

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It depends on what is meant by "run out of cash". I think we can all confess that the US treasury has run out of cash and has been in deficit for many decades. The US Federal Reserve is printing money at a rate unprecedented in the economic history of any nation. There isn't even a good agreement as to how many tens of trillions of dollars have gushed out of the US federal reserve and entirely bypassed the US treasury.

That the US Federal Reserve is no longer focused on Monetary policy and has an essential role in fiscal policy speaks volumes about the (in)stability of the US economy.

icj1 also stated that the US does not "control" Europe. Most notably, the unprecedented US bailouts that started in 2008 required the rescue of many European banks by the US Federal Reserve.
Money to EU banks(!) from the US Federal Reserve can be found on page 131 of the July 2011 GAO Audit:
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion
and many many more including banks in Belgium of all places

sj

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
My money is on Russia. The US neither has the financial resources nor military might anymore so it’s another back down in the end. The US is now entangled in so many conflicts even with all of its western partners they are unable to win, but the humorous part is that it’s all of their own making.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

Am, its odd because during the 1990s it was Serbia that did all of the attacking! As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

The US will rise the Ante so,
War is unavoidable.

Obama will though learn that Russia will not back down,
so He Himself will have to.

Russia forever !.

Arn.Sweden.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

War is unavoidable.
Arn

You could be righr Arn. The US Government has been in the business of destroying countries and using NATO as it principle instrument. That was stated more than a decade ago by then US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and later by General Wesley Clark. The Pentagon drew up a list of 7 states that were to be destroyed: Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Syria and they have systematically proceeded to destroy all of the countries on the list. The strategy in Ukraine is the same, US/NATO/EU are promoting the destabilization and the breakup of Ukraine in order to achieve the NATO goal of moving into Ukrainian territory closer to Russia. Russia haters like Zbignew Brzezinski and Richard Pipes want to breakup Russia into approximately 68 parts and have placed their protégés in key US foreign policy posts. Brezezinski has staffed the Obama administration with his acolytes and protégées, including the US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, a specialist in colour revolutions. At the end of the day the US plan is to see the breakup of the Russian Federation, that is their goal. Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Leonidas !.

The Conflict will escalate and trigger the Beginning of the Apokalypse in the Balkans,

(Revelation 6 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!”
2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer.)

The puppets of Germany -
Hungaria-Austria-Croatia,
will attack Serbia and the Serbians in Bosniaherzegovina,
and Albania will come for Kosovo.

In short.

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 9 godina

LK



IDIOTISM IS NOT TREATED SO THE BELOW COMMENTS ARE NOT FOR YOU :


1/ USSR entered Poland next day after their government flew to London. USSR moved not an inch outside the Russian lands occupied 19 years before WW2.

2/ We have liberated the Europeans but for some time we had to occupy the lands to clean them from the fascists. After WW2 1 300 000 Europeans were imprisoned for the crimes during the Nazi.

3/ In 1968 we got a CIA Otpor kind revolt in Czechoslovakia so 5 of the Warsaw Pact states entered there to restore the constitutional order. CIA stood behind it.

4/ In 1956 Soviet troops entered Hungary to stop the started civil war between the Horti’s fascists and the Communists of Kadar Yanosh. Before the Soviets restored peace the Magyars already killed 2500 of each other. Austria stood behind the events because the CIA said so.

5/ In Moldova Russian 14-th army stopped the war very effectively with just one statement of the late General Lieutenant Alexander Lebed and it’s been 20 years that nobody dares to violate the peace here. Neither they are going to join Romania or EU.

6/ Everybody in the west including UNSC , EU , NATO , OSCE acknowledged that it was Georgia who had launched the 4 day war of 08.08.08. By the way Saakashvili hunted by the Interpol had launched 2 wars. One on the day of opening the Athens Olympics and second on opening of the Beijing games. The US State Department stood behind him.

SO STOP WASHING US BRAINS !

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Russia is "doing everything to prevent a European war," Russian Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs Chairman Konstantin Kosachev has said.

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.

LK

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia has always tried to prevent war in Europe. First by invading Poland to start WWII, then occupying hundreds of millions of eastern European lands during the Cold War, including military adventures in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. Then after the Cold War,they helped prevent war in Moldova and Georgia by occupying more land and supporting separatists. And now they're preventing war in Ukraine by sending in weapons, fighters, and ammo. Good old Russia, always trying to prevent war in Europe.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

To Rocky - I Quote -

As for Albania coming for Kosova, that's odd as well? Kosova for 100s, and 1000s of years has been Albanian, and majority Albanian inhabited!
(Rocky, 17 February 2015 13:35)

Comment -

I spoke to one of the USK leaders in the Nineties and,
He was a Victim of History falsification as you now are also.

Arn.Sweden.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

... and does anything to boost the war in Ukraine even more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 February 2015 14:45)
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That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
He is not done with propping up The Muslim Brotherhood to power yet. Egypt being succesful in resisting this has become an obsticle and delayed this quite a bit.
Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Until this point Putin has shown restraint and he’s been active in peace negotiations in stopping the conflict.But if the US decides to supply Poroshenko with advanced weapons this could be a game changer and It will be the brink of WWIII.
(Leonidas, 17 February 2015 11:04)

Poroshenko fighting vs some Ukrainian rebels would be WWIII?!!!! The maximum that could happen is that the rebels take over Kiev or that Poroshenko takes over Donetsk and Luhansk. WWIII would be if Russia is involved.

Reminder: According to the Kremlin, Russia is not involved in the fighting in Ukraine. I hope that you're not an idiot to believe that, but regardless you still must make an effort when writing to not let any direct or implied indication to the contrary slip out. I know it's hard, but you must try :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

This is a war for who controls Europe. Will it remain under the US or will Russia be its new master?
(sj, 17 February 2015 10:55)

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

That would be the US. Obama needs to stay in office longer than he is allowed so a war would suit him very nicely.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Oh, dear, your ignorance knows no limits :) Fortunately, the US is not like Russia or other countries similar to it who elevate leaders to the level of God. War or no war, whether a successful leader or not, Obama's last day in office will be 20 January 2017, at the latest, because the US Constitution says so.
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Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha

sj

pre 9 godina

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

sj

pre 9 godina

Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47)

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I accept that I made error in stating that the US was broke since the CTC has shown us all that I did not take into account that he uses a special Albanian calculator and that a debt of 19 trillion, 20 by December this year, does not mean the US is broke but a balanced budget and in the black.
Brilliant as usual. That's why you are the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner.
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:51)

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

Obama needs Ukraine for having NATO bordering Russia. He didn't go to all the trouble of setting this up only to have peace with Russia in the driver's seat.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 23:20)

Your ignorance continues... NATO has bordered Russia long before Obama was even born lol

But please continue to entertain the readers of these forums with fantasies and conspiracy theories; you really need them when you can't come up with anything real to support your arguments.

But, I have to admit you are very good at them and have a very vivid imagination for coming up with fancy fantasies and conspiracy theories haha
(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:27)

The CTC has uncovered the another plot and all are conspiracies and fantasies LOL. They are all around him. That’s why they call him the CTC.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 18 February 2015 11:37)

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.
(sj, 19 February 2015 13:40)

Thx! While I'm still honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, all credit for the creativity and the very vivid imagination and conspiracy theories goes to our dear friend Peggy - I'd never take credit for somebody's else hard work :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Nenad

pre 9 godina

Yes, Russia annexing Crimea was certainly a peaceful move, and it lends much credibility to Russian denial of further involvement in stoking war in Ukraine. Shameless.

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK, great. So then the question of a certain sj @ 17 February 2015 10:55 still does not make sense because according to you who are the CE of B92 forums, the US has a debt of 19 trillion and therefore it can't control Europe.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:48)

As usual the CTC has posted something that only he understands i.e “a certain sj” then ..”you who are the CE of B92 forums”. This is either a sign of poor language skills trying to convey the message in a more sophisticated way but failing dramatically or illness of some kind. However, I’m sure he has analysed this and come to the same conclusion of 2+2=72. That’s why he is the CTC.
P.S CTC= Chief Toilet Cleaner

sj

pre 9 godina

Thx, but even though I'm honored that the CE of B82 forums sj in person acknowledged my post, I can't take the credit. As you can see from above, it was our dear friend Peggy who discovered another plot and conspiracy with her very vivid imagination :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 February 2015 22:52)

Please note that the CTC has outwitted again while he uses the words “conspiracy with her very vivid imagination” it’s all Peggy’s fault. Well he must be right as he is the CTC of B92 forum.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 18 February 2015 04:47) Sorry, but the question above makes no sense - the US does not control Europe because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the US has collapsed and run out of cash long ago.

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It depends on what is meant by "run out of cash". I think we can all confess that the US treasury has run out of cash and has been in deficit for many decades. The US Federal Reserve is printing money at a rate unprecedented in the economic history of any nation. There isn't even a good agreement as to how many tens of trillions of dollars have gushed out of the US federal reserve and entirely bypassed the US treasury.

That the US Federal Reserve is no longer focused on Monetary policy and has an essential role in fiscal policy speaks volumes about the (in)stability of the US economy.

icj1 also stated that the US does not "control" Europe. Most notably, the unprecedented US bailouts that started in 2008 required the rescue of many European banks by the US Federal Reserve.
Money to EU banks(!) from the US Federal Reserve can be found on page 131 of the July 2011 GAO Audit:
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion
and many many more including banks in Belgium of all places