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Friday, 13.02.2015.

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"Migration from Kosovo is organized"

Faculty for Security professor Zoran Dragisic has said that mass migration from Kosovo and Metohija to the EU is "an organized act of crime groups."

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sj

pre 9 godina

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.
(Wrong SJ, 16 February 2015 12:11)

I heard this on the BBC only two days ago. The reporter stated that “the US has left Kosovo to the EU together with depleted uranium still not cleaned up since 1999, and a population that is 78% unemployed. The reported also said “...so the only choices are stand in line in soup kitchens for one meal a day or leave Kosovo.
I know one swallow does not make it a summer but something has happened for all these people to leave on mass at once. Generally, people looking for a better life leave in small but continuous numbers not in tsunami style.

sj

pre 9 godina

pss, 16 February 2015 12:14)

Well Milosevic is no longer ruling Kosovo but Albanians are starting to leave on mass so what’s your problem now? Milosevic again?

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.

(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

Ari I take care of my self and never have taken any handout from another person in my life from age of 18 (from my own parents). On Serbia giving Autonomy its a joke as this was taken before and it would not be better than Albanins in bujanovc who are also leaving being considered 2nd class citizen.

Serbia can not provide better standard of living this is for sure !!! As I have been to Nis and Jagodina etc and I have seen it with my own eyes, I have a college roommate who is from there and trust me he describes a different story.

May need a different plan

pre 9 godina

(sj, 16 February 2015 09:42)
Maybe they are using the Serb game plan of emigrating to the west and finding jobs and then returning to Serbia and using their success to rebuild the Serbian state. Oh that's right once Serbs were able to get the heck out of Serbia and have a decent life they have no intentions of returning to the wasteland, they would rather just post on news sites of their loyalty to the homeland.

pss

pre 9 godina

When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.
(Michael Thomas, 15 February 2015 13:47
What a convenient memory you have. The people of Kosovo had a good life when they were part of Tito's Yugoslavia with full autonomy and equal voting rights to Serbia, it still had the title of province but was on equal status with Serbia and thus not ruled by Serbia, all changed under Milosevic and "when ruled by Belgrade" all these factories were closed and dismantled, all the schools were closed to Albanian children, the University of Pristina went from an enrollment of some 25+thousand to around 300, all Serbs. When the economics did not work then Milosevic began his brutality and forced expulsions to rid Kosovo of the Albanians.
Now is that the "old life" that you claim the herd is brain dead for not embracing. In the US before the civil war, many whites felt the slaves had a good life. For some reason oppressors think they are doing a favor for those they "rule"!

Wrong SJ

pre 9 godina

"due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve. "

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)

Yes you are right the money has been wasted, but it was done with the full knowledge of the west. It is they who allowed this money to be pocketed by the political parties in Kosovo resulting with many of the politicians becoming millionaires. My guess is that the west thought it was easier just to throw money to keep the locals happy (it has been US policy to first bribe and if it does not work then kill – watch George Clooney’s film Siriana).
But we are now in very lean times and unless the Germans want to work to 80 expenditure cuts had to be made. I have heard that the reason why these people are leaving Kosovo on mass is due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve.
This morning even the BBC radio dealt with this issue and they mentioned that in Kosovo the true level of unemployment stood at 78%.
There will be no Kosovo army. Who is paying for it???? The US did not stop sending food and money because they were trying to wean the Albanians off “welfare”. Washington’s economy has not recovered since 2008 despite the BS of increased employment data. Kosovo is unsustainable as a country and needs to be propped up forever.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

That's great! I hope there were more Serbs thinking like you in Serbia so that Kosovars could exploit Serbia's stupidity and get travel to Europe in comfortable buses for free, paid for by Serbia's taxpayers.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

I'm perplexed! So where did Serbia spent those billions, instead with Serbia not being able to properly feed its children?!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints""

The checkpoints are now closed for Albanians.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Albanian with German Citizenship

Your talk about your factory in Kosovo is a bad joke. When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing but large, ignorant families that have no future. All cultures have qualities and problems. I will leave you to tell us about your many qualities, I would say, however, that among your problems is your herd instinct. Albanians do not think and behave as individuals, they follow their leader even if this means poverty or death. Looked at from the perspective of individuals, life for Albanians in Serbia was infinitely better than life under NATO. Albanians had every freedom and opportunity to make their lives better when governed from Belgrade. Governed from Washington all you can do is make the herd bigger by producing more children. When life becomes impossible for most of the Albanian herd, then you are moved onto new grazing fields in the EU. Life in the EU for Albanian immigrants is not great and many just end up washing cars or get involved in crime. If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo.
(Go Figure, 14 February 2015 21:25)

Serbia has not had control over the Albanian populated areas of Kosovo-Metohija since 1999, but yes THEY are the problem! The West HAS helped you like you wouldn't believe. A.) NATO-KFOR allows the "kosovo institutions" to operate because without their presence, Serbia would be able to just walk back in with little problems. B.) BILLIONS have been handed over to these institutions I speak of since the end of the war with nothing to show for it. Where has all that $ went?

Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery?
(Morning Shake, 14 February 2015 19:38)

I'm not. I feel bad for these people. They are leaving Kosovo-Metohija because they do not have ties to the drug/organ/human/sex trafficking rackets in Pristina and are therefore dirt poor. But these people fell for this lie of the "newborn republjik" and chose Thaci&Co. to be their leaders.

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija. Instead, they chose "independence" thinking they can still get $ from the West. But they forgot to read the fine print which says if you want the West to
consider you a country, you have to take care of yourself.

Oops

royals

pre 9 godina

Serbia should prepare a bus service so when the Albo's arrive on the border they can be sent to Croatia and Germany via the express route.
Given Croatia is the most beautiful country in the world and has such a multicultural and democratic society with a thriving economy I am sure they can easily accommodate up to half a million goat herders. The way its going Serbs will have Kosovo back in full control in no time.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Do you really believe that 13% of the Albanians in Kosovo have left in the last few months?
Is it a surprise that they want to leave? The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo. Thinking that this is the way to keep the peace. They do not want to shove the fact down the throats of Serbs that Kosovo is gone, so they wait. People are tired of waiting they want a future, just like your parents or grandparents as they fled Serbia for a better life.
This has become the hype of the moment in Serbian circles. The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints paying bribes to Serbian police with Serbian papers purchased on the black market from Serbian officials. But this is an Albanian problem?? The Albanians are only using the same system that has been in place for immigrants from other countries have found, if they can make it to Serbia then passage to the EU is easy with the right amount of money as corruption is not the exception but the rule there.
This is nothing compared to the corruption the EU will see introduced should Serbia ever gain entrance.

Immigrants criticizing others for wanting to immigrate. the true oxymoron.

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

btw Ari, Since you've been so kind, I will offer to hire 2 Serbs, at my factory in Hamburg, for every one Albanian hired in Serbia. We need to help each other rather than constantly bicker over things neither of us have any control over. As they say, you scratch my back, I scratch your back.

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

Gee Ari, thanks alot. I will return the favor by hiring Serbs to work in my company when Serbia gets in the EU. That probably won't be for another twenty years, though. However, if Serbia does buy the buses you're suggesting, I will ask my brother, living in Kosova, to hire Serbs to work at our factory in Prishtina. It is not often that one is fortunate to meet a Serb as kind as you. God bless you.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery? not sure you will ever see in your life time the number of people in Kosovo being more Serbs than Albanians.
Do you know that Serbia looses 50K people a year due to Death and 100K due to immigration this is nothing to be proud of and you seem to have this dream that I am certain will never come true.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)
Its true including Serbian Ministers in Kosovo, everything gets done with some form of a bribe.

Same in most balkan countires nut sure why but it seems the norm.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Notice how the usually frequent Albanian nationalists on here and their foreign sympathizers Ian UK and Willi Pfaff are nowhere to be seen when discussing the phenomenon of the Albanians leaving in droves from the newborn republjik. Pristina daily Zeri says as many as 230, 000 people have left in a matter of months. Thank God, I only hope Germany doesn't send them back. They are their allies after all, it would be an insult to EUropean values because of the principle of free movement.

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. "
(sj, 13 February 2015 13:12)

The answer is simple: Because all the donor money was wasted and went straight to the pockets of the mafia clans who became politicians and political parties in Kosovo, and nothing reached the ordinary citizens.

Of course there is enough money for a 'Kosova army' and for building unneeded highways to Albania, not to mention for building fancy villas for Thaci and other ministers.

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?

ned taylor

pre 9 godina

I'm sure the Germans are well aware why people are leaving Kosovo. It's the same reason they leave Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Slovakia..........money. The first Romanian to arrive at Luton Airport after the relaxation of the rules regarding migrants from that country coming and working in the UK was interviewed recently by a national paper. He is earning multiple times the salary he could manage back home and in just 12 months has sent £10,000 back to his family. Of course the difference here is that he is doing this legally, but the motivation of this (hard working) gentleman is the same as for those leaving KiM. It is also the reason that smugglers, as opposed to traffickers (trafficking is something different), are organising the journeys. They can make a fortune from this trade and they don't even have to accompany the 'package', unlike with drug smuggling.

Comm. Parrissn

pre 9 godina

"It is quite clear that those trying to leave are leaving because of social motives, but the one who organized them did not do it for that reason, but for something else," said this expert.

Wow. Takes an expert to know that. And guess what the reason is why certain mafia groups organize that human trafficking? Little hint: It's the same reason the Kosovo drug mafia doing its business for - which is not to help all the drug addicts around Europe.

sj

pre 9 godina

In this instance organised crime plays a small role. The prime mover here is a desire to look for a better future as Kosovo goes from bad to worse under the Albanian rule despite being fanned by promises since 1999.
I have written on numerous occasions that Albanians from Kosovo have been looking for work in Serbia proper, but regularly returned by Serb authorities to Kosovo. No work in Kosovo and no working allowed in Serbia proper then Germany is the only option left, not that Serbia offers great salaries but 200/250 Euro a month is better than nothing.
I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. Well Deutschland dwellers now you know how people felt in old Yugoslavia – Kosovo was well known as a bottomless money pit. In old Yugoslavia workers were “asked” to donate wages earned working 4 Saturdays per year to help the poorer parts such and Kosovo and Macedonia. Time for Germany to help out for a change.

sj

pre 9 godina

In this instance organised crime plays a small role. The prime mover here is a desire to look for a better future as Kosovo goes from bad to worse under the Albanian rule despite being fanned by promises since 1999.
I have written on numerous occasions that Albanians from Kosovo have been looking for work in Serbia proper, but regularly returned by Serb authorities to Kosovo. No work in Kosovo and no working allowed in Serbia proper then Germany is the only option left, not that Serbia offers great salaries but 200/250 Euro a month is better than nothing.
I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. Well Deutschland dwellers now you know how people felt in old Yugoslavia – Kosovo was well known as a bottomless money pit. In old Yugoslavia workers were “asked” to donate wages earned working 4 Saturdays per year to help the poorer parts such and Kosovo and Macedonia. Time for Germany to help out for a change.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Notice how the usually frequent Albanian nationalists on here and their foreign sympathizers Ian UK and Willi Pfaff are nowhere to be seen when discussing the phenomenon of the Albanians leaving in droves from the newborn republjik. Pristina daily Zeri says as many as 230, 000 people have left in a matter of months. Thank God, I only hope Germany doesn't send them back. They are their allies after all, it would be an insult to EUropean values because of the principle of free movement.

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. "
(sj, 13 February 2015 13:12)

The answer is simple: Because all the donor money was wasted and went straight to the pockets of the mafia clans who became politicians and political parties in Kosovo, and nothing reached the ordinary citizens.

Of course there is enough money for a 'Kosova army' and for building unneeded highways to Albania, not to mention for building fancy villas for Thaci and other ministers.

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)
Its true including Serbian Ministers in Kosovo, everything gets done with some form of a bribe.

Same in most balkan countires nut sure why but it seems the norm.

ned taylor

pre 9 godina

I'm sure the Germans are well aware why people are leaving Kosovo. It's the same reason they leave Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Slovakia..........money. The first Romanian to arrive at Luton Airport after the relaxation of the rules regarding migrants from that country coming and working in the UK was interviewed recently by a national paper. He is earning multiple times the salary he could manage back home and in just 12 months has sent £10,000 back to his family. Of course the difference here is that he is doing this legally, but the motivation of this (hard working) gentleman is the same as for those leaving KiM. It is also the reason that smugglers, as opposed to traffickers (trafficking is something different), are organising the journeys. They can make a fortune from this trade and they don't even have to accompany the 'package', unlike with drug smuggling.

Comm. Parrissn

pre 9 godina

"It is quite clear that those trying to leave are leaving because of social motives, but the one who organized them did not do it for that reason, but for something else," said this expert.

Wow. Takes an expert to know that. And guess what the reason is why certain mafia groups organize that human trafficking? Little hint: It's the same reason the Kosovo drug mafia doing its business for - which is not to help all the drug addicts around Europe.

royals

pre 9 godina

Serbia should prepare a bus service so when the Albo's arrive on the border they can be sent to Croatia and Germany via the express route.
Given Croatia is the most beautiful country in the world and has such a multicultural and democratic society with a thriving economy I am sure they can easily accommodate up to half a million goat herders. The way its going Serbs will have Kosovo back in full control in no time.

pss

pre 9 godina

When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.
(Michael Thomas, 15 February 2015 13:47
What a convenient memory you have. The people of Kosovo had a good life when they were part of Tito's Yugoslavia with full autonomy and equal voting rights to Serbia, it still had the title of province but was on equal status with Serbia and thus not ruled by Serbia, all changed under Milosevic and "when ruled by Belgrade" all these factories were closed and dismantled, all the schools were closed to Albanian children, the University of Pristina went from an enrollment of some 25+thousand to around 300, all Serbs. When the economics did not work then Milosevic began his brutality and forced expulsions to rid Kosovo of the Albanians.
Now is that the "old life" that you claim the herd is brain dead for not embracing. In the US before the civil war, many whites felt the slaves had a good life. For some reason oppressors think they are doing a favor for those they "rule"!

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

btw Ari, Since you've been so kind, I will offer to hire 2 Serbs, at my factory in Hamburg, for every one Albanian hired in Serbia. We need to help each other rather than constantly bicker over things neither of us have any control over. As they say, you scratch my back, I scratch your back.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Do you really believe that 13% of the Albanians in Kosovo have left in the last few months?
Is it a surprise that they want to leave? The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo. Thinking that this is the way to keep the peace. They do not want to shove the fact down the throats of Serbs that Kosovo is gone, so they wait. People are tired of waiting they want a future, just like your parents or grandparents as they fled Serbia for a better life.
This has become the hype of the moment in Serbian circles. The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints paying bribes to Serbian police with Serbian papers purchased on the black market from Serbian officials. But this is an Albanian problem?? The Albanians are only using the same system that has been in place for immigrants from other countries have found, if they can make it to Serbia then passage to the EU is easy with the right amount of money as corruption is not the exception but the rule there.
This is nothing compared to the corruption the EU will see introduced should Serbia ever gain entrance.

Immigrants criticizing others for wanting to immigrate. the true oxymoron.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery? not sure you will ever see in your life time the number of people in Kosovo being more Serbs than Albanians.
Do you know that Serbia looses 50K people a year due to Death and 100K due to immigration this is nothing to be proud of and you seem to have this dream that I am certain will never come true.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Albanian with German Citizenship

Your talk about your factory in Kosovo is a bad joke. When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing but large, ignorant families that have no future. All cultures have qualities and problems. I will leave you to tell us about your many qualities, I would say, however, that among your problems is your herd instinct. Albanians do not think and behave as individuals, they follow their leader even if this means poverty or death. Looked at from the perspective of individuals, life for Albanians in Serbia was infinitely better than life under NATO. Albanians had every freedom and opportunity to make their lives better when governed from Belgrade. Governed from Washington all you can do is make the herd bigger by producing more children. When life becomes impossible for most of the Albanian herd, then you are moved onto new grazing fields in the EU. Life in the EU for Albanian immigrants is not great and many just end up washing cars or get involved in crime. If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

Gee Ari, thanks alot. I will return the favor by hiring Serbs to work in my company when Serbia gets in the EU. That probably won't be for another twenty years, though. However, if Serbia does buy the buses you're suggesting, I will ask my brother, living in Kosova, to hire Serbs to work at our factory in Prishtina. It is not often that one is fortunate to meet a Serb as kind as you. God bless you.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo.
(Go Figure, 14 February 2015 21:25)

Serbia has not had control over the Albanian populated areas of Kosovo-Metohija since 1999, but yes THEY are the problem! The West HAS helped you like you wouldn't believe. A.) NATO-KFOR allows the "kosovo institutions" to operate because without their presence, Serbia would be able to just walk back in with little problems. B.) BILLIONS have been handed over to these institutions I speak of since the end of the war with nothing to show for it. Where has all that $ went?

Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery?
(Morning Shake, 14 February 2015 19:38)

I'm not. I feel bad for these people. They are leaving Kosovo-Metohija because they do not have ties to the drug/organ/human/sex trafficking rackets in Pristina and are therefore dirt poor. But these people fell for this lie of the "newborn republjik" and chose Thaci&Co. to be their leaders.

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija. Instead, they chose "independence" thinking they can still get $ from the West. But they forgot to read the fine print which says if you want the West to
consider you a country, you have to take care of yourself.

Oops

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

I'm perplexed! So where did Serbia spent those billions, instead with Serbia not being able to properly feed its children?!

icj1

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

That's great! I hope there were more Serbs thinking like you in Serbia so that Kosovars could exploit Serbia's stupidity and get travel to Europe in comfortable buses for free, paid for by Serbia's taxpayers.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.

(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

Ari I take care of my self and never have taken any handout from another person in my life from age of 18 (from my own parents). On Serbia giving Autonomy its a joke as this was taken before and it would not be better than Albanins in bujanovc who are also leaving being considered 2nd class citizen.

Serbia can not provide better standard of living this is for sure !!! As I have been to Nis and Jagodina etc and I have seen it with my own eyes, I have a college roommate who is from there and trust me he describes a different story.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints""

The checkpoints are now closed for Albanians.

Wrong SJ

pre 9 godina

"due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve. "

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.

May need a different plan

pre 9 godina

(sj, 16 February 2015 09:42)
Maybe they are using the Serb game plan of emigrating to the west and finding jobs and then returning to Serbia and using their success to rebuild the Serbian state. Oh that's right once Serbs were able to get the heck out of Serbia and have a decent life they have no intentions of returning to the wasteland, they would rather just post on news sites of their loyalty to the homeland.

sj

pre 9 godina

pss, 16 February 2015 12:14)

Well Milosevic is no longer ruling Kosovo but Albanians are starting to leave on mass so what’s your problem now? Milosevic again?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)

Yes you are right the money has been wasted, but it was done with the full knowledge of the west. It is they who allowed this money to be pocketed by the political parties in Kosovo resulting with many of the politicians becoming millionaires. My guess is that the west thought it was easier just to throw money to keep the locals happy (it has been US policy to first bribe and if it does not work then kill – watch George Clooney’s film Siriana).
But we are now in very lean times and unless the Germans want to work to 80 expenditure cuts had to be made. I have heard that the reason why these people are leaving Kosovo on mass is due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve.
This morning even the BBC radio dealt with this issue and they mentioned that in Kosovo the true level of unemployment stood at 78%.
There will be no Kosovo army. Who is paying for it???? The US did not stop sending food and money because they were trying to wean the Albanians off “welfare”. Washington’s economy has not recovered since 2008 despite the BS of increased employment data. Kosovo is unsustainable as a country and needs to be propped up forever.

sj

pre 9 godina

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.
(Wrong SJ, 16 February 2015 12:11)

I heard this on the BBC only two days ago. The reporter stated that “the US has left Kosovo to the EU together with depleted uranium still not cleaned up since 1999, and a population that is 78% unemployed. The reported also said “...so the only choices are stand in line in soup kitchens for one meal a day or leave Kosovo.
I know one swallow does not make it a summer but something has happened for all these people to leave on mass at once. Generally, people looking for a better life leave in small but continuous numbers not in tsunami style.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. "
(sj, 13 February 2015 13:12)

The answer is simple: Because all the donor money was wasted and went straight to the pockets of the mafia clans who became politicians and political parties in Kosovo, and nothing reached the ordinary citizens.

Of course there is enough money for a 'Kosova army' and for building unneeded highways to Albania, not to mention for building fancy villas for Thaci and other ministers.

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Notice how the usually frequent Albanian nationalists on here and their foreign sympathizers Ian UK and Willi Pfaff are nowhere to be seen when discussing the phenomenon of the Albanians leaving in droves from the newborn republjik. Pristina daily Zeri says as many as 230, 000 people have left in a matter of months. Thank God, I only hope Germany doesn't send them back. They are their allies after all, it would be an insult to EUropean values because of the principle of free movement.

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

Gee Ari, thanks alot. I will return the favor by hiring Serbs to work in my company when Serbia gets in the EU. That probably won't be for another twenty years, though. However, if Serbia does buy the buses you're suggesting, I will ask my brother, living in Kosova, to hire Serbs to work at our factory in Prishtina. It is not often that one is fortunate to meet a Serb as kind as you. God bless you.

sj

pre 9 godina

In this instance organised crime plays a small role. The prime mover here is a desire to look for a better future as Kosovo goes from bad to worse under the Albanian rule despite being fanned by promises since 1999.
I have written on numerous occasions that Albanians from Kosovo have been looking for work in Serbia proper, but regularly returned by Serb authorities to Kosovo. No work in Kosovo and no working allowed in Serbia proper then Germany is the only option left, not that Serbia offers great salaries but 200/250 Euro a month is better than nothing.
I see the German newspapers are asking the question why is this happening when billions have been spent in Kosovo and yet it’s now poorer than ever. Well Deutschland dwellers now you know how people felt in old Yugoslavia – Kosovo was well known as a bottomless money pit. In old Yugoslavia workers were “asked” to donate wages earned working 4 Saturdays per year to help the poorer parts such and Kosovo and Macedonia. Time for Germany to help out for a change.

Albanian with German Citizenship

pre 9 godina

btw Ari, Since you've been so kind, I will offer to hire 2 Serbs, at my factory in Hamburg, for every one Albanian hired in Serbia. We need to help each other rather than constantly bicker over things neither of us have any control over. As they say, you scratch my back, I scratch your back.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Do you really believe that 13% of the Albanians in Kosovo have left in the last few months?
Is it a surprise that they want to leave? The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo. Thinking that this is the way to keep the peace. They do not want to shove the fact down the throats of Serbs that Kosovo is gone, so they wait. People are tired of waiting they want a future, just like your parents or grandparents as they fled Serbia for a better life.
This has become the hype of the moment in Serbian circles. The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints paying bribes to Serbian police with Serbian papers purchased on the black market from Serbian officials. But this is an Albanian problem?? The Albanians are only using the same system that has been in place for immigrants from other countries have found, if they can make it to Serbia then passage to the EU is easy with the right amount of money as corruption is not the exception but the rule there.
This is nothing compared to the corruption the EU will see introduced should Serbia ever gain entrance.

Immigrants criticizing others for wanting to immigrate. the true oxymoron.

Comm. Parrissn

pre 9 godina

"It is quite clear that those trying to leave are leaving because of social motives, but the one who organized them did not do it for that reason, but for something else," said this expert.

Wow. Takes an expert to know that. And guess what the reason is why certain mafia groups organize that human trafficking? Little hint: It's the same reason the Kosovo drug mafia doing its business for - which is not to help all the drug addicts around Europe.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)
Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery? not sure you will ever see in your life time the number of people in Kosovo being more Serbs than Albanians.
Do you know that Serbia looses 50K people a year due to Death and 100K due to immigration this is nothing to be proud of and you seem to have this dream that I am certain will never come true.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Albanian with German Citizenship

Your talk about your factory in Kosovo is a bad joke. When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing but large, ignorant families that have no future. All cultures have qualities and problems. I will leave you to tell us about your many qualities, I would say, however, that among your problems is your herd instinct. Albanians do not think and behave as individuals, they follow their leader even if this means poverty or death. Looked at from the perspective of individuals, life for Albanians in Serbia was infinitely better than life under NATO. Albanians had every freedom and opportunity to make their lives better when governed from Belgrade. Governed from Washington all you can do is make the herd bigger by producing more children. When life becomes impossible for most of the Albanian herd, then you are moved onto new grazing fields in the EU. Life in the EU for Albanian immigrants is not great and many just end up washing cars or get involved in crime. If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.

royals

pre 9 godina

Serbia should prepare a bus service so when the Albo's arrive on the border they can be sent to Croatia and Germany via the express route.
Given Croatia is the most beautiful country in the world and has such a multicultural and democratic society with a thriving economy I am sure they can easily accommodate up to half a million goat herders. The way its going Serbs will have Kosovo back in full control in no time.

sj

pre 9 godina

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.
(Wrong SJ, 16 February 2015 12:11)

I heard this on the BBC only two days ago. The reporter stated that “the US has left Kosovo to the EU together with depleted uranium still not cleaned up since 1999, and a population that is 78% unemployed. The reported also said “...so the only choices are stand in line in soup kitchens for one meal a day or leave Kosovo.
I know one swallow does not make it a summer but something has happened for all these people to leave on mass at once. Generally, people looking for a better life leave in small but continuous numbers not in tsunami style.

sj

pre 9 godina

pss, 16 February 2015 12:14)

Well Milosevic is no longer ruling Kosovo but Albanians are starting to leave on mass so what’s your problem now? Milosevic again?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)

Yes you are right the money has been wasted, but it was done with the full knowledge of the west. It is they who allowed this money to be pocketed by the political parties in Kosovo resulting with many of the politicians becoming millionaires. My guess is that the west thought it was easier just to throw money to keep the locals happy (it has been US policy to first bribe and if it does not work then kill – watch George Clooney’s film Siriana).
But we are now in very lean times and unless the Germans want to work to 80 expenditure cuts had to be made. I have heard that the reason why these people are leaving Kosovo on mass is due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve.
This morning even the BBC radio dealt with this issue and they mentioned that in Kosovo the true level of unemployment stood at 78%.
There will be no Kosovo army. Who is paying for it???? The US did not stop sending food and money because they were trying to wean the Albanians off “welfare”. Washington’s economy has not recovered since 2008 despite the BS of increased employment data. Kosovo is unsustainable as a country and needs to be propped up forever.

ned taylor

pre 9 godina

I'm sure the Germans are well aware why people are leaving Kosovo. It's the same reason they leave Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Slovakia..........money. The first Romanian to arrive at Luton Airport after the relaxation of the rules regarding migrants from that country coming and working in the UK was interviewed recently by a national paper. He is earning multiple times the salary he could manage back home and in just 12 months has sent £10,000 back to his family. Of course the difference here is that he is doing this legally, but the motivation of this (hard working) gentleman is the same as for those leaving KiM. It is also the reason that smugglers, as opposed to traffickers (trafficking is something different), are organising the journeys. They can make a fortune from this trade and they don't even have to accompany the 'package', unlike with drug smuggling.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The west is suppose to help them develop a economical future, but they play games, allowing Serbia to still block the future of Kosovo.
(Go Figure, 14 February 2015 21:25)

Serbia has not had control over the Albanian populated areas of Kosovo-Metohija since 1999, but yes THEY are the problem! The West HAS helped you like you wouldn't believe. A.) NATO-KFOR allows the "kosovo institutions" to operate because without their presence, Serbia would be able to just walk back in with little problems. B.) BILLIONS have been handed over to these institutions I speak of since the end of the war with nothing to show for it. Where has all that $ went?

Ari why are you so happy with peoples misery?
(Morning Shake, 14 February 2015 19:38)

I'm not. I feel bad for these people. They are leaving Kosovo-Metohija because they do not have ties to the drug/organ/human/sex trafficking rackets in Pristina and are therefore dirt poor. But these people fell for this lie of the "newborn republjik" and chose Thaci&Co. to be their leaders.

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija. Instead, they chose "independence" thinking they can still get $ from the West. But they forgot to read the fine print which says if you want the West to
consider you a country, you have to take care of yourself.

Oops

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The funny thing is that the Albanians leaving are exiting through Serbian checkpoints""

The checkpoints are now closed for Albanians.

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

P.S: I read somewhere that about 50% of the Kosovo MPs are €-millionaires. Is this true?
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 February 2015 16:22)
Its true including Serbian Ministers in Kosovo, everything gets done with some form of a bribe.

Same in most balkan countires nut sure why but it seems the norm.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Anyway, Serbia needs to invest in extra large, extra comfortable buses so we can help our Albanian friends. Things are hard in Serbia, but we must dig deep and help the even less fortunate find a better life in the EU.
(Ari Gold, 13 February 2015 17:34)

That's great! I hope there were more Serbs thinking like you in Serbia so that Kosovars could exploit Serbia's stupidity and get travel to Europe in comfortable buses for free, paid for by Serbia's taxpayers.

Wrong SJ

pre 9 godina

"due to the US no longer sending food packages or money to the Albanians so it’s either leave or starve. "

You are either grossly misinformed or simply lying. There has been no shortage of food in Kosovo for a very long time, hence the World Food Program having closed up shop years ago. People are not leaving due to hunger.

May need a different plan

pre 9 godina

(sj, 16 February 2015 09:42)
Maybe they are using the Serb game plan of emigrating to the west and finding jobs and then returning to Serbia and using their success to rebuild the Serbian state. Oh that's right once Serbs were able to get the heck out of Serbia and have a decent life they have no intentions of returning to the wasteland, they would rather just post on news sites of their loyalty to the homeland.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

I'm perplexed! So where did Serbia spent those billions, instead with Serbia not being able to properly feed its children?!

pss

pre 9 godina

When ruled from Belgrade, Kosovo had many fine factories that employed all residents of Kosovo. Since the NATO occupation these factories have been looted and stripped of all their assets. Nothing is now left and Kosovo now produces nothing If the herd had a brain then it would pine for the old life it once enjoyed in Serbia. But the herd is brain-dead, it just goes where it is led.
(Michael Thomas, 15 February 2015 13:47
What a convenient memory you have. The people of Kosovo had a good life when they were part of Tito's Yugoslavia with full autonomy and equal voting rights to Serbia, it still had the title of province but was on equal status with Serbia and thus not ruled by Serbia, all changed under Milosevic and "when ruled by Belgrade" all these factories were closed and dismantled, all the schools were closed to Albanian children, the University of Pristina went from an enrollment of some 25+thousand to around 300, all Serbs. When the economics did not work then Milosevic began his brutality and forced expulsions to rid Kosovo of the Albanians.
Now is that the "old life" that you claim the herd is brain dead for not embracing. In the US before the civil war, many whites felt the slaves had a good life. For some reason oppressors think they are doing a favor for those they "rule"!

Morning Shake

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered them substantial autonomy during the UN talks which they should have taken. That would have ensured the billions more required to keep the welfare system up and running in Kosovo-Metohija.

(Ari Gold, 15 February 2015 04:51)

Ari I take care of my self and never have taken any handout from another person in my life from age of 18 (from my own parents). On Serbia giving Autonomy its a joke as this was taken before and it would not be better than Albanins in bujanovc who are also leaving being considered 2nd class citizen.

Serbia can not provide better standard of living this is for sure !!! As I have been to Nis and Jagodina etc and I have seen it with my own eyes, I have a college roommate who is from there and trust me he describes a different story.