Poroshenko calls on western countries to supply weapons

Why there is so much support for these Russians I don't know.
Russia is clearly the aggressor in this conflict.
Yet Russians voices, on this website, speak of the Ukrainians as "NAZIS" and "FASCISTS".
If anyone on the European continent these days is behaving in a Fascist manner then its the Russians and no one else.
Quote from Wikipedia:
"Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism.
Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and it asserts that stronger nations have the right, and indeed an imperative, to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations".
This sounds more like Putin's Russia then like Poroshenko's Ukraine.
Poroshenko will get his weapons and support from the UN, EU and the USA and Putin can go and kiss his arse goodbye (or should I say kiss little boys on their bellies, cause they are so cute like little kittens. Disgusting!)

Since Ukrainian boys are fleeing the army and seek refuge in Russia, the Kiev Nazi regime will soon be asking for NATO to send troops to destroy the Donbas Ukrainians.

There is no way that NATO troops will get involved and the Kiev Nazi leaders will alos have to flee to London, New York or Israel. The Ukraine they will leave behind will be a Mad Max world which will result in a rapid depopulation as the old die early and the young flee to the EU or Russia.

For the sake of the people living there and suffering, I really hope that more constructive approach will soon emerge and start to prevail.

T-bone

You remind Senator John Sidney McCain III. In Viet Nam he too hit the ground upside down because of a wrong parachute. What planet are you from and when were you reading the news last time ? Don’t you know that Russia f*cks and NATO s*cks everywhere we come in contact ? See which of the sides involved is asking for ceasefire ! Is it Putin coming to Berlin or NATO is sending their beggars ? The bad guy is sent to Kiev to scare us with his dry finger while the two good cops are to bring their rotten carrots to Kremlin. Well well well …

When thousands of the Russian civilians were killed not a single son-of-a-bitch barked in Europe. But now that the NATO Legion is surrounded in Debaltsevo Herr Poroshenko , Dacic , Ban Gimun , Merkel , Hollande , Kerry and other pigs suddenly became anxious about the humanitarian corridors from there. Where the swine were during bombarding of Gorlovka , Slaviansk , Donetsk , Lugansk , Slavianoserbsk , Peski , Avdeevka , Shahtersk and hundreds of other cities and villages ? So any bastard to raise his shitty voice in favor of the self-proclaimed Kiev Nazi regime must be punished severely.

P.S. – 1 I do not use word FASCISM for them because it’s a too soft word. They are pure Nazi and only a finished idiot fails see the difference.

P.S. – 2 НА ВРАГОВ ВСЕГДА НАЙДЕМ УПРАВУ, КАК БЫ ИХ СУДЬБА НИ БЕРЕГЛА !

are you satisfied now ?

T = T-bone internet troll

Hey T-bone you know even cleaning public toilets is a more honorable job then being an internet troll cause what you are is the lowest of the low.

US arms to Kiev would definitely be a problem for the ethnic Russians defending themselves in East Ukraine. When Kiev's soldiers abandon their arms and run back home, the arms will be harder to adapt by the rebels in the East.

Leave the Russians in Eastern Ukraine in Peace and You will have Peace.

Now if rhe West ( Germany) is stupid enough to heed Your call then Russia will give you Ku - tz !.

By Loser.

Arn.Sweden.

Well Poroshenko is a prominent scoundrel and this we all know. But he is not the most outstanding bastard in Kiev today. My favorite is Pan Denisenko excommunicated by the Russian Church 20 years ago. What this man is doing can only be compared with Caliph Baghdadi of IS. Just think about the below :

1/ He declared himself a Patriach of the ( established by himself ) Ukrainian church and started by force to occupy Russian churches in this country. For this split he was anathematize by Moscow Patriarchy.
2/ In the churches of the western Ukraine for already 10 years he prays for destruction of Donbass. After the start of the current war he drafts young people to the National Guard battalions and demands avenging 10 Donbass men for each Nazi killed there.
3/ He is travelling around the world asking for arms to help them win the war. Today when the agony of the regime came to a peak he is in America begging for heavy arms and money to kill more of the Christians.

How is Poroshenko going to pay for that? In chocolate?

T = T-bone internet troll

Hey T-bone you know even cleaning public toilets is a more honorable job then being an internet troll cause what you are is the lowest of the low.
(Ratko, 5 February 2015 19:41)

Hey Ratko, speaking from experience??

The West is partially at fault for selling out Ukraine. They, along with Russia and China guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty at the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances 1994. Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for territorial integrity and political independence.

They are also to blame for signing this agreement. They lived together with Russians for way too long and should've learned that they can't be trusted. I guess they had no other options.

Russians are Russians. They will lie and break their word just like many Arab statesmen. They can't be trusted. How many times did Putin publicly lie to the world and yet 81% of Russians are behind him.

The West should've sent heavy artillery to Ukraine since they failed to protect their territorial integrity. I guess it's better late then never.

I've got an idea.

Albanians from Kosovo who want to leave + arms from the US = go fight for Kiev's nazi regime! If they die, they will die for America! There will be no 72 virgins in heaven waiting for them, but the US will forever be in their debt and build a little memorial to commemorate them all. Poetic justice!

The West should've sent heavy artillery to Ukraine since they failed to protect their territorial integrity. I guess it's better late then never.
(cry me a river, 6 February 2015 15:28)
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Not going to happen so it's never.
It's not the Russians who can't be trusted, it's the Americans. The US created the mess and now they won't support them. They obviously promissed him his position, got rid of the rightful president but they forgot to tell him that they won't back their rhetoric with action.
Kind of what happened to Saddam when they backed him against Iran and told him they will turn a blind eye on Kuwait if he goes in, then they stabbed him in the back.
The same sort of thing has happened to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood president. Where is he now?
You Albanians have a lot to look forward to.

The US created the mess and now they won't support them. They obviously promissed him his position, got rid of the rightful president but they forgot to tell him that they won't back their rhetoric with action.
(Peggy, 8 February 2015 01:08)

The only part you failed to explain is why would the US needed the create the mess and how did the US convince almost 10 million Ukrainians to vote for him?

Arms supplies were something the Viet Nam war was launched with because the Asians had no idea how to use it. So the US military advisers were sent there, then it came to the specialists for logistics. Then troops to guard them all were needed and in the end the USA lost 55 000 men and endless number of arms and John Kerry became a Hippie. Same thing is supposed to happen in Ukraine but unlike Viet Nam here they will have to deal with the Russians who have equal arms and who are much better on the battlefield. They failed to crush the irregular Donetsk troops armed with the old Ukrainian arms. How are they going to fight the Russian Army drilled and equipped every day ? Besides Russia obtains much better and closer communications in case of a wide scale real war. To say nothing that Putin has enough will and he always manages to take the west by surprise. Sure the US is the only side who would like to arrange another war this time in Europe to force capitals run to America. But this time it’s a real Russian roulette that may put an end to the whole civilization including the FED..

The only part you failed to explain is why would the US needed the create the mess and how did the US convince almost 10 million Ukrainians to vote for him?
(icj1, 9 February 2015 03:13)
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Are you seriously going to ask that?

Why there is so much support for these Russians I don't know.
Russia is clearly the aggressor in this conflict.
Yet Russians voices, on this website, speak of the Ukrainians as "NAZIS" and "FASCISTS".
If anyone on the European continent these days is behaving in a Fascist manner then its the Russians and no one else.
Quote from Wikipedia:
"Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism.
Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and it asserts that stronger nations have the right, and indeed an imperative, to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations".
This sounds more like Putin's Russia then like Poroshenko's Ukraine.
Poroshenko will get his weapons and support from the UN, EU and the USA and Putin can go and kiss his arse goodbye (or should I say kiss little boys on their bellies, cause they are so cute like little kittens. Disgusting!)

Since Ukrainian boys are fleeing the army and seek refuge in Russia, the Kiev Nazi regime will soon be asking for NATO to send troops to destroy the Donbas Ukrainians.

There is no way that NATO troops will get involved and the Kiev Nazi leaders will alos have to flee to London, New York or Israel. The Ukraine they will leave behind will be a Mad Max world which will result in a rapid depopulation as the old die early and the young flee to the EU or Russia.

Leave the Russians in Eastern Ukraine in Peace and You will have Peace.

Now if rhe West ( Germany) is stupid enough to heed Your call then Russia will give you Ku - tz !.

By Loser.

Arn.Sweden.

T-bone

You remind Senator John Sidney McCain III. In Viet Nam he too hit the ground upside down because of a wrong parachute. What planet are you from and when were you reading the news last time ? Don’t you know that Russia f*cks and NATO s*cks everywhere we come in contact ? See which of the sides involved is asking for ceasefire ! Is it Putin coming to Berlin or NATO is sending their beggars ? The bad guy is sent to Kiev to scare us with his dry finger while the two good cops are to bring their rotten carrots to Kremlin. Well well well …

When thousands of the Russian civilians were killed not a single son-of-a-bitch barked in Europe. But now that the NATO Legion is surrounded in Debaltsevo Herr Poroshenko , Dacic , Ban Gimun , Merkel , Hollande , Kerry and other pigs suddenly became anxious about the humanitarian corridors from there. Where the swine were during bombarding of Gorlovka , Slaviansk , Donetsk , Lugansk , Slavianoserbsk , Peski , Avdeevka , Shahtersk and hundreds of other cities and villages ? So any bastard to raise his shitty voice in favor of the self-proclaimed Kiev Nazi regime must be punished severely.

P.S. – 1 I do not use word FASCISM for them because it’s a too soft word. They are pure Nazi and only a finished idiot fails see the difference.

P.S. – 2 НА ВРАГОВ ВСЕГДА НАЙДЕМ УПРАВУ, КАК БЫ ИХ СУДЬБА НИ БЕРЕГЛА !

are you satisfied now ?

T = T-bone internet troll

Hey T-bone you know even cleaning public toilets is a more honorable job then being an internet troll cause what you are is the lowest of the low.

The West is partially at fault for selling out Ukraine. They, along with Russia and China guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty at the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances 1994. Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for territorial integrity and political independence.

They are also to blame for signing this agreement. They lived together with Russians for way too long and should've learned that they can't be trusted. I guess they had no other options.

Russians are Russians. They will lie and break their word just like many Arab statesmen. They can't be trusted. How many times did Putin publicly lie to the world and yet 81% of Russians are behind him.

The West should've sent heavy artillery to Ukraine since they failed to protect their territorial integrity. I guess it's better late then never.

US arms to Kiev would definitely be a problem for the ethnic Russians defending themselves in East Ukraine. When Kiev's soldiers abandon their arms and run back home, the arms will be harder to adapt by the rebels in the East.

Well Poroshenko is a prominent scoundrel and this we all know. But he is not the most outstanding bastard in Kiev today. My favorite is Pan Denisenko excommunicated by the Russian Church 20 years ago. What this man is doing can only be compared with Caliph Baghdadi of IS. Just think about the below :

1/ He declared himself a Patriach of the ( established by himself ) Ukrainian church and started by force to occupy Russian churches in this country. For this split he was anathematize by Moscow Patriarchy.
2/ In the churches of the western Ukraine for already 10 years he prays for destruction of Donbass. After the start of the current war he drafts young people to the National Guard battalions and demands avenging 10 Donbass men for each Nazi killed there.
3/ He is travelling around the world asking for arms to help them win the war. Today when the agony of the regime came to a peak he is in America begging for heavy arms and money to kill more of the Christians.

T = T-bone internet troll

Hey T-bone you know even cleaning public toilets is a more honorable job then being an internet troll cause what you are is the lowest of the low.
(Ratko, 5 February 2015 19:41)

Hey Ratko, speaking from experience??

I've got an idea.

Albanians from Kosovo who want to leave + arms from the US = go fight for Kiev's nazi regime! If they die, they will die for America! There will be no 72 virgins in heaven waiting for them, but the US will forever be in their debt and build a little memorial to commemorate them all. Poetic justice!

For the sake of the people living there and suffering, I really hope that more constructive approach will soon emerge and start to prevail.

How is Poroshenko going to pay for that? In chocolate?

The West should've sent heavy artillery to Ukraine since they failed to protect their territorial integrity. I guess it's better late then never.
(cry me a river, 6 February 2015 15:28)
=========================
Not going to happen so it's never.
It's not the Russians who can't be trusted, it's the Americans. The US created the mess and now they won't support them. They obviously promissed him his position, got rid of the rightful president but they forgot to tell him that they won't back their rhetoric with action.
Kind of what happened to Saddam when they backed him against Iran and told him they will turn a blind eye on Kuwait if he goes in, then they stabbed him in the back.
The same sort of thing has happened to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood president. Where is he now?
You Albanians have a lot to look forward to.

The US created the mess and now they won't support them. They obviously promissed him his position, got rid of the rightful president but they forgot to tell him that they won't back their rhetoric with action.
(Peggy, 8 February 2015 01:08)

The only part you failed to explain is why would the US needed the create the mess and how did the US convince almost 10 million Ukrainians to vote for him?

Arms supplies were something the Viet Nam war was launched with because the Asians had no idea how to use it. So the US military advisers were sent there, then it came to the specialists for logistics. Then troops to guard them all were needed and in the end the USA lost 55 000 men and endless number of arms and John Kerry became a Hippie. Same thing is supposed to happen in Ukraine but unlike Viet Nam here they will have to deal with the Russians who have equal arms and who are much better on the battlefield. They failed to crush the irregular Donetsk troops armed with the old Ukrainian arms. How are they going to fight the Russian Army drilled and equipped every day ? Besides Russia obtains much better and closer communications in case of a wide scale real war. To say nothing that Putin has enough will and he always manages to take the west by surprise. Sure the US is the only side who would like to arrange another war this time in Europe to force capitals run to America. But this time it’s a real Russian roulette that may put an end to the whole civilization including the FED..

The only part you failed to explain is why would the US needed the create the mess and how did the US convince almost 10 million Ukrainians to vote for him?
(icj1, 9 February 2015 03:13)
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Are you seriously going to ask that?