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Friday, 30.01.2015.

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Russia asks Bosnia to stop sending arms to Ukraine

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has appealed on Bosnia-Herzegovina to stop arms shipments to the Ukrainian military.

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icj1

pre 9 godina

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Great, thanks for proving my point!
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Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Crimea + Eastern Ukraine
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Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Well, your can deal with the "will" part. Other people prefer to deal with existing things and problems rather than hypothetical ones.
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Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS. And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

OK, let's say it is so. But people in the US are happy with that and many other people from other countries who emigrate or try to emigrate to the US like it. So that's the end of the story :) I don't get it why they should care about something that does not bother them, but bothers you lol

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense.
CTC1

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.

Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.

I knew you were farting as usual.Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine? Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?

It's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of sj.

Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS.And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.The fact is, the emperor doesn't actually have any clothes.He is as 'naked' as the very day when he was born.Just as the 'market riggers' are now too.

rote

pre 9 godina

Gruz200

Using Russian military slang you should know that Gruz-200 means a dead body and Gruz-300 is a wounded. I suppose that you are rather Gruz-300 when several bullets that went through your head not damaging the brains. So small it was. Because otherwise you would know that those are the “terrorists” who entirely eliminate the Nazi troops in the Debaltsevo Circle. Kiev is begging for peace today because they also have multiple problems in the rear front. Yesterday AIDAR battalion stormed the Ministry of Defense while their mobilization plan is ruined. They already started to build block-posts on the entrances to Kiev … So the whole former state will soon become a Gruz200. In the weeks to come self-proclaimed Ukraine will have another President. It will be Baptist pastor Turchinov.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I side Putin because
1/ He is a white skin.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So was Hitler.
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2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

I'm sure the Russians in Eastern Ukraine who had their neighborhoods converted to battleground for the sake of Mr. Putin's pride are glad to not have been betrayed!
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3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So does Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
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4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Of course; it's easy to stop something that does not happen
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5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, if "stronger" means population declining by the millions, most of the world not supporting Russia and the Russian currency being in free fall
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6/ Ha launched not a single war.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, he only sent Russian soldiers to fight in other countries without declaring war. Unfortunately, their deaths tasted the same whether the war was declared or not.
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7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

It's so unfortunate that the manking has not noticed that
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Now if he succeeds in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Well, a good captain does not send the ship towards troubled waters, in the first place

icj1

pre 9 godina

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense. But don't worry mate, I totally sympathize. It's hard to make sense with lies, except perhaps to people like rote!
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Evidence or just farting.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Evidence that your statement that NATO "lost its entire reason for being" was totally wrong?! Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.
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As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Oh, OK so what you said that "there is "no money left"" is irrelevant until the day of reckoning. Let us know when that day comes; it's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
CTC1

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!

Evidence or just farting.

They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

Their you go again Ida misrepresenting the wonderful Croatians. We are freeing peoples from oppression of the tyrannical despots. We are helping the Kurd's to be free with our modern weaponry VHS-2. Selling to them training them and the Iraqi army. We help them defend Erbil our special forces are their directing air strikes on ISIS in Iraq. The only ones we are helping of the Syrian forces is the free Syrian army. Just like in Afghanistan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJHdapvk2I training their army, air force calling in airstrikes and in direct combat against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Every one wants us we have so much relevant winning combat experience. RS what you say about Putin is bunch of BS he is another despot who got in to power https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_324819&feature=iv&src_vid=REy-oTEAxHk&v=9sx2YmSXDy8 by murdering his own people. Then what do you expect from a high ranking KGB/FSB general.

icj1

pre 9 godina

There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
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Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest.
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!
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Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

But the most patriotic of Serbs disagree with you. They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

Bob

pre 9 godina

RK

You are therefore a self admitted racist with a delusional view of Putin's psychology and intentions.

Putin is involving ng himself in his neighbour's politics using a system of action followed by denial. I don't think we are deceived, even if you are.

Why does Putin have to suppress freedom of his own press? Because he is corrupt.

Putin started out well, but is on a slide downward, I just hope he doesn't take the world with him.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Bob,

Whenever i see bob's posting on Russia and Putin I know we're about to be lied to (standard troll propaganda) and rarely have I read such self-serving twaddle.It's not Russia but the United States and its allies which can at any moment take it upon themselves to launch unprovoked attacks on any nation on earth with impunity yet bob turns the tables on Russia and accusing them of doing the same thing. In reality of course only US/Nato can launch volleys of cruise missiles at anyone they feel like without consequence.There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine and the 5,000 deaths and 500,000 refugees are entirely the fault of the puppet regime in Kiev.
Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest. But that would never do, would it?The industrial/military/political complex keeps itself fat and rich by keeping us afraid, inventing enemies by the dozen, quietly looting our taxes the while. Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all: yet the war machine grinds on and idiots like bob troll on.

ida

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

And the people in eastern Ukraine are being attacked by the Kiev puppet government. Most of those injured in the shelling are WOMEN - 60% of the casualties from the Ukrainian army shelling are women.

So the Kiev regime is killing mostly civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure than attacking the rebels. They also have Nazi slogans and insignia and the Kiev regime cleared out Ukraine's gold stocks as soon as they grabbed power in the U.S.-sponsored coup.

RK

pre 9 godina

Bob

“As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem.”

I side Putin because

1/ He is a white skin.
2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
6/ Ha launched not a single war.
7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.

Now if he succeeds in cleaning Russia of the US 5-th Column and in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior. Then he will justify his name ( VLADI MIR ) because the hearts of the whole mankind will belong to him.

Bob

pre 9 godina

They're saying this is getting serious. Putin is scared of NATO and has a mental view that is making him turn this into a NATO conflict so he can test NATO's strength.

In this matter, it is better to support Ukraine's sovereignty than to support Putin, because otherwise this will escalate much further.

Putin is dangerous and returning us to an unnecessary cold war.

I'd rather see Russians living in a prosperous country that has international trust than for it go down this road of destabilization and sick nationalist rhetoric.

It seems Putin is scared of NATO, and it is part of his thinking. The solution has to be a combination of carrot and stick. Carrot so that Russians can feel secure, but stick so he doesn't invade his neighbours.

We know that appeasement won't work - he will go on and on if allowed to.

NATO needs to draw a line now, otherwise the situation will worsen a lot. So far not enough stick has been used.

However, at the same time there needs to be a reworking of the peace processes from way back.

This is serious. Nuclear serious.

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As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem. You are just reworking the same sick divisive nationalistic rhetoric that you once enjoyed propagating when Milosevic was the problem.

azir

pre 9 godina

Russia just like Serbia is the land of hypocrites.

Russia asks Bosnia for an arms embargo at the same time Russia sends untold tracktor trailer loads of weapons to Ethnic Russian Separatists in Ukraine.

Basicly Russians say do as I say and not as I do.

I suggest all Russia's minorities be liberated .....

LK

pre 9 godina

Bosnia can sell their ammunition wherever they want. Russia doesn't get to dictate to other countries what they do with their products. The hypocrisy of Russia here is astounding, considering they're sending tons of ammo, small arms, heavy arms, tanks, rockets, anti-aircraft, mercenaries, etc. to separatists in Donbas.

Komandante

pre 9 godina

Stanislav....molim te nemoj da lazes. Ti nisi Srbin. I ako jesi nisi nikav Srbin.

Stanislav isn't Serbian for sure. Blantantly obvious.

Long live Putin's Russia and Serbia.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

"I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state."
(Stanislav, 30 January 2015 12:56)

Which part of the Kiev government do you consider Neo-nazi? The members of the Narodnyj front (which are only a part of government)?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Amusing. Such a request coming from Russia which supports the separatists/terrorists in Ukraine not only with ammunition, but with arms, missiles, tanks and even soldiers (on holidays) and mercenaries.

And they complain about some bullets made in Bosnia. How detached from reality are these people, I wonder?

Stanislav

pre 9 godina

I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Earlier this month, Bosnian Minister of Foreign Trade and Economic Relations Boris Tucic - who comes from the country's Serb entity - announced he was resigning in protest over Sarajevo's decision to send four shipments of ammunition to Ukraine. Who cares all irrelevant Serbs can resign from Bosnia and "Srpska" can disappear back to hell where it came from. Like the other defunct BS "Srpska Krajina" moved to mother hive Belgrade where both criminality's were hell spawned from. Any way it is a Croatian arms factory in Croatian dominated region. Croatia is sending 14 transport helicopters and a squadron of attack helicopters to Ukraine also much more. Wounded Ukrainian soldiers are being flown to Croatia and being treated. We are teaching them how to defeat speedily Russia's aggression on Ukraine.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Amusing. Such a request coming from Russia which supports the separatists/terrorists in Ukraine not only with ammunition, but with arms, missiles, tanks and even soldiers (on holidays) and mercenaries.

And they complain about some bullets made in Bosnia. How detached from reality are these people, I wonder?

Komandante

pre 9 godina

Stanislav....molim te nemoj da lazes. Ti nisi Srbin. I ako jesi nisi nikav Srbin.

Stanislav isn't Serbian for sure. Blantantly obvious.

Long live Putin's Russia and Serbia.

LK

pre 9 godina

Bosnia can sell their ammunition wherever they want. Russia doesn't get to dictate to other countries what they do with their products. The hypocrisy of Russia here is astounding, considering they're sending tons of ammo, small arms, heavy arms, tanks, rockets, anti-aircraft, mercenaries, etc. to separatists in Donbas.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Earlier this month, Bosnian Minister of Foreign Trade and Economic Relations Boris Tucic - who comes from the country's Serb entity - announced he was resigning in protest over Sarajevo's decision to send four shipments of ammunition to Ukraine. Who cares all irrelevant Serbs can resign from Bosnia and "Srpska" can disappear back to hell where it came from. Like the other defunct BS "Srpska Krajina" moved to mother hive Belgrade where both criminality's were hell spawned from. Any way it is a Croatian arms factory in Croatian dominated region. Croatia is sending 14 transport helicopters and a squadron of attack helicopters to Ukraine also much more. Wounded Ukrainian soldiers are being flown to Croatia and being treated. We are teaching them how to defeat speedily Russia's aggression on Ukraine.

azir

pre 9 godina

Russia just like Serbia is the land of hypocrites.

Russia asks Bosnia for an arms embargo at the same time Russia sends untold tracktor trailer loads of weapons to Ethnic Russian Separatists in Ukraine.

Basicly Russians say do as I say and not as I do.

I suggest all Russia's minorities be liberated .....

Stanislav

pre 9 godina

I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state.

Bob

pre 9 godina

They're saying this is getting serious. Putin is scared of NATO and has a mental view that is making him turn this into a NATO conflict so he can test NATO's strength.

In this matter, it is better to support Ukraine's sovereignty than to support Putin, because otherwise this will escalate much further.

Putin is dangerous and returning us to an unnecessary cold war.

I'd rather see Russians living in a prosperous country that has international trust than for it go down this road of destabilization and sick nationalist rhetoric.

It seems Putin is scared of NATO, and it is part of his thinking. The solution has to be a combination of carrot and stick. Carrot so that Russians can feel secure, but stick so he doesn't invade his neighbours.

We know that appeasement won't work - he will go on and on if allowed to.

NATO needs to draw a line now, otherwise the situation will worsen a lot. So far not enough stick has been used.

However, at the same time there needs to be a reworking of the peace processes from way back.

This is serious. Nuclear serious.

-----

As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem. You are just reworking the same sick divisive nationalistic rhetoric that you once enjoyed propagating when Milosevic was the problem.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

"I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state."
(Stanislav, 30 January 2015 12:56)

Which part of the Kiev government do you consider Neo-nazi? The members of the Narodnyj front (which are only a part of government)?

RK

pre 9 godina

Bob

“As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem.”

I side Putin because

1/ He is a white skin.
2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
6/ Ha launched not a single war.
7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.

Now if he succeeds in cleaning Russia of the US 5-th Column and in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior. Then he will justify his name ( VLADI MIR ) because the hearts of the whole mankind will belong to him.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
CTC1

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!

Evidence or just farting.

They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Bob,

Whenever i see bob's posting on Russia and Putin I know we're about to be lied to (standard troll propaganda) and rarely have I read such self-serving twaddle.It's not Russia but the United States and its allies which can at any moment take it upon themselves to launch unprovoked attacks on any nation on earth with impunity yet bob turns the tables on Russia and accusing them of doing the same thing. In reality of course only US/Nato can launch volleys of cruise missiles at anyone they feel like without consequence.There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine and the 5,000 deaths and 500,000 refugees are entirely the fault of the puppet regime in Kiev.
Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest. But that would never do, would it?The industrial/military/political complex keeps itself fat and rich by keeping us afraid, inventing enemies by the dozen, quietly looting our taxes the while. Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all: yet the war machine grinds on and idiots like bob troll on.

Bob

pre 9 godina

RK

You are therefore a self admitted racist with a delusional view of Putin's psychology and intentions.

Putin is involving ng himself in his neighbour's politics using a system of action followed by denial. I don't think we are deceived, even if you are.

Why does Putin have to suppress freedom of his own press? Because he is corrupt.

Putin started out well, but is on a slide downward, I just hope he doesn't take the world with him.

ida

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

And the people in eastern Ukraine are being attacked by the Kiev puppet government. Most of those injured in the shelling are WOMEN - 60% of the casualties from the Ukrainian army shelling are women.

So the Kiev regime is killing mostly civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure than attacking the rebels. They also have Nazi slogans and insignia and the Kiev regime cleared out Ukraine's gold stocks as soon as they grabbed power in the U.S.-sponsored coup.

icj1

pre 9 godina

There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
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Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest.
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!
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Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

But the most patriotic of Serbs disagree with you. They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

Lenard

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

Their you go again Ida misrepresenting the wonderful Croatians. We are freeing peoples from oppression of the tyrannical despots. We are helping the Kurd's to be free with our modern weaponry VHS-2. Selling to them training them and the Iraqi army. We help them defend Erbil our special forces are their directing air strikes on ISIS in Iraq. The only ones we are helping of the Syrian forces is the free Syrian army. Just like in Afghanistan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJHdapvk2I training their army, air force calling in airstrikes and in direct combat against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Every one wants us we have so much relevant winning combat experience. RS what you say about Putin is bunch of BS he is another despot who got in to power https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_324819&feature=iv&src_vid=REy-oTEAxHk&v=9sx2YmSXDy8 by murdering his own people. Then what do you expect from a high ranking KGB/FSB general.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I side Putin because
1/ He is a white skin.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So was Hitler.
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2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

I'm sure the Russians in Eastern Ukraine who had their neighborhoods converted to battleground for the sake of Mr. Putin's pride are glad to not have been betrayed!
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3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So does Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
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4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Of course; it's easy to stop something that does not happen
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5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, if "stronger" means population declining by the millions, most of the world not supporting Russia and the Russian currency being in free fall
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6/ Ha launched not a single war.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, he only sent Russian soldiers to fight in other countries without declaring war. Unfortunately, their deaths tasted the same whether the war was declared or not.
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7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

It's so unfortunate that the manking has not noticed that
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Now if he succeeds in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Well, a good captain does not send the ship towards troubled waters, in the first place

rote

pre 9 godina

Gruz200

Using Russian military slang you should know that Gruz-200 means a dead body and Gruz-300 is a wounded. I suppose that you are rather Gruz-300 when several bullets that went through your head not damaging the brains. So small it was. Because otherwise you would know that those are the “terrorists” who entirely eliminate the Nazi troops in the Debaltsevo Circle. Kiev is begging for peace today because they also have multiple problems in the rear front. Yesterday AIDAR battalion stormed the Ministry of Defense while their mobilization plan is ruined. They already started to build block-posts on the entrances to Kiev … So the whole former state will soon become a Gruz200. In the weeks to come self-proclaimed Ukraine will have another President. It will be Baptist pastor Turchinov.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense. But don't worry mate, I totally sympathize. It's hard to make sense with lies, except perhaps to people like rote!
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Evidence or just farting.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Evidence that your statement that NATO "lost its entire reason for being" was totally wrong?! Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.
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As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Oh, OK so what you said that "there is "no money left"" is irrelevant until the day of reckoning. Let us know when that day comes; it's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist.

icj1

pre 9 godina

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Great, thanks for proving my point!
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Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Crimea + Eastern Ukraine
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Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Well, your can deal with the "will" part. Other people prefer to deal with existing things and problems rather than hypothetical ones.
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Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS. And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

OK, let's say it is so. But people in the US are happy with that and many other people from other countries who emigrate or try to emigrate to the US like it. So that's the end of the story :) I don't get it why they should care about something that does not bother them, but bothers you lol

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense.
CTC1

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.

Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.

I knew you were farting as usual.Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine? Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?

It's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of sj.

Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS.And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.The fact is, the emperor doesn't actually have any clothes.He is as 'naked' as the very day when he was born.Just as the 'market riggers' are now too.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Earlier this month, Bosnian Minister of Foreign Trade and Economic Relations Boris Tucic - who comes from the country's Serb entity - announced he was resigning in protest over Sarajevo's decision to send four shipments of ammunition to Ukraine. Who cares all irrelevant Serbs can resign from Bosnia and "Srpska" can disappear back to hell where it came from. Like the other defunct BS "Srpska Krajina" moved to mother hive Belgrade where both criminality's were hell spawned from. Any way it is a Croatian arms factory in Croatian dominated region. Croatia is sending 14 transport helicopters and a squadron of attack helicopters to Ukraine also much more. Wounded Ukrainian soldiers are being flown to Croatia and being treated. We are teaching them how to defeat speedily Russia's aggression on Ukraine.

Komandante

pre 9 godina

Stanislav....molim te nemoj da lazes. Ti nisi Srbin. I ako jesi nisi nikav Srbin.

Stanislav isn't Serbian for sure. Blantantly obvious.

Long live Putin's Russia and Serbia.

Stanislav

pre 9 godina

I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state.

LK

pre 9 godina

Bosnia can sell their ammunition wherever they want. Russia doesn't get to dictate to other countries what they do with their products. The hypocrisy of Russia here is astounding, considering they're sending tons of ammo, small arms, heavy arms, tanks, rockets, anti-aircraft, mercenaries, etc. to separatists in Donbas.

azir

pre 9 godina

Russia just like Serbia is the land of hypocrites.

Russia asks Bosnia for an arms embargo at the same time Russia sends untold tracktor trailer loads of weapons to Ethnic Russian Separatists in Ukraine.

Basicly Russians say do as I say and not as I do.

I suggest all Russia's minorities be liberated .....

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Amusing. Such a request coming from Russia which supports the separatists/terrorists in Ukraine not only with ammunition, but with arms, missiles, tanks and even soldiers (on holidays) and mercenaries.

And they complain about some bullets made in Bosnia. How detached from reality are these people, I wonder?

Bob

pre 9 godina

They're saying this is getting serious. Putin is scared of NATO and has a mental view that is making him turn this into a NATO conflict so he can test NATO's strength.

In this matter, it is better to support Ukraine's sovereignty than to support Putin, because otherwise this will escalate much further.

Putin is dangerous and returning us to an unnecessary cold war.

I'd rather see Russians living in a prosperous country that has international trust than for it go down this road of destabilization and sick nationalist rhetoric.

It seems Putin is scared of NATO, and it is part of his thinking. The solution has to be a combination of carrot and stick. Carrot so that Russians can feel secure, but stick so he doesn't invade his neighbours.

We know that appeasement won't work - he will go on and on if allowed to.

NATO needs to draw a line now, otherwise the situation will worsen a lot. So far not enough stick has been used.

However, at the same time there needs to be a reworking of the peace processes from way back.

This is serious. Nuclear serious.

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As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem. You are just reworking the same sick divisive nationalistic rhetoric that you once enjoyed propagating when Milosevic was the problem.

RK

pre 9 godina

Bob

“As for people who take the side of Putin (invader and president for life), you are part of the problem.”

I side Putin because

1/ He is a white skin.
2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
6/ Ha launched not a single war.
7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.

Now if he succeeds in cleaning Russia of the US 5-th Column and in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior. Then he will justify his name ( VLADI MIR ) because the hearts of the whole mankind will belong to him.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

"I'm a Serb and I think Russia is such a hypocritical country and an aggressor. Although Kiev government is Neo-nazi, it never changes the fact that Russia is an agressor state."
(Stanislav, 30 January 2015 12:56)

Which part of the Kiev government do you consider Neo-nazi? The members of the Narodnyj front (which are only a part of government)?

Bob

pre 9 godina

RK

You are therefore a self admitted racist with a delusional view of Putin's psychology and intentions.

Putin is involving ng himself in his neighbour's politics using a system of action followed by denial. I don't think we are deceived, even if you are.

Why does Putin have to suppress freedom of his own press? Because he is corrupt.

Putin started out well, but is on a slide downward, I just hope he doesn't take the world with him.

ida

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

And the people in eastern Ukraine are being attacked by the Kiev puppet government. Most of those injured in the shelling are WOMEN - 60% of the casualties from the Ukrainian army shelling are women.

So the Kiev regime is killing mostly civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure than attacking the rebels. They also have Nazi slogans and insignia and the Kiev regime cleared out Ukraine's gold stocks as soon as they grabbed power in the U.S.-sponsored coup.

icj1

pre 9 godina

There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
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Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest.
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!
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Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all
(Leonidas, 1 February 2015 20:56)

But the most patriotic of Serbs disagree with you. They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

rote

pre 9 godina

Gruz200

Using Russian military slang you should know that Gruz-200 means a dead body and Gruz-300 is a wounded. I suppose that you are rather Gruz-300 when several bullets that went through your head not damaging the brains. So small it was. Because otherwise you would know that those are the “terrorists” who entirely eliminate the Nazi troops in the Debaltsevo Circle. Kiev is begging for peace today because they also have multiple problems in the rear front. Yesterday AIDAR battalion stormed the Ministry of Defense while their mobilization plan is ruined. They already started to build block-posts on the entrances to Kiev … So the whole former state will soon become a Gruz200. In the weeks to come self-proclaimed Ukraine will have another President. It will be Baptist pastor Turchinov.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Bob,

Whenever i see bob's posting on Russia and Putin I know we're about to be lied to (standard troll propaganda) and rarely have I read such self-serving twaddle.It's not Russia but the United States and its allies which can at any moment take it upon themselves to launch unprovoked attacks on any nation on earth with impunity yet bob turns the tables on Russia and accusing them of doing the same thing. In reality of course only US/Nato can launch volleys of cruise missiles at anyone they feel like without consequence.There is absolutely no evidence Russia has sent so much as one soldier into eastern Ukraine and the 5,000 deaths and 500,000 refugees are entirely the fault of the puppet regime in Kiev.
Now as far as Nato is concerned it is not fit for purpose and it's a relic of the Cold War. It lost its entire reason for being when peace finally broke out between Russia and the West, and it should have been laid quietly to rest. But that would never do, would it?The industrial/military/political complex keeps itself fat and rich by keeping us afraid, inventing enemies by the dozen, quietly looting our taxes the while. Back in the real world US/EU citizens live of soup kitchens, there is "no money left" to fund the Health Care, to pay decent pensions, sickness payments, unemployment assistance, a proper living wage and adequate housing for all: yet the war machine grinds on and idiots like bob troll on.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

I see the hateful Lenard posts about Croatia again. But he fails to say that Croatia also sent 75 planeloads of weapons to terrorists in Syria. So Croatia has fueled the war there.

Their you go again Ida misrepresenting the wonderful Croatians. We are freeing peoples from oppression of the tyrannical despots. We are helping the Kurd's to be free with our modern weaponry VHS-2. Selling to them training them and the Iraqi army. We help them defend Erbil our special forces are their directing air strikes on ISIS in Iraq. The only ones we are helping of the Syrian forces is the free Syrian army. Just like in Afghanistan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJHdapvk2I training their army, air force calling in airstrikes and in direct combat against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Every one wants us we have so much relevant winning combat experience. RS what you say about Putin is bunch of BS he is another despot who got in to power https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_324819&feature=iv&src_vid=REy-oTEAxHk&v=9sx2YmSXDy8 by murdering his own people. Then what do you expect from a high ranking KGB/FSB general.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense.
CTC1

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.

Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.

I knew you were farting as usual.Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine? Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?

It's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of sj.

Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS.And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.The fact is, the emperor doesn't actually have any clothes.He is as 'naked' as the very day when he was born.Just as the 'market riggers' are now too.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Oh, OK that's what I thought, but a certain Leonidas disagreed and was writing non-sense such as "Putin had to respond to the pleas of the Russians in Crimea, East and South East Ukraine for help after the Ukrainian ultras started suppressing the Russian speaking minorities!"
CTC1

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.

Unfortunately, what Russia is doing supports the opposite of what you are writing!

Evidence or just farting.

They think that the US/EU has so much money left to the point of being able to pay billions to Ukraine for conspiracies against Russia - make sure you get the propaganda consistent mate lol

As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.

icj1

pre 9 godina

I side Putin because
1/ He is a white skin.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So was Hitler.
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2/ He does not betray his people no matter where they live.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

I'm sure the Russians in Eastern Ukraine who had their neighborhoods converted to battleground for the sake of Mr. Putin's pride are glad to not have been betrayed!
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3/ He believes in God and so he behaves.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

So does Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
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4/ He stopped disintegration of Russia.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Of course; it's easy to stop something that does not happen
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5/ He made Russia stronger in every aspect.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, if "stronger" means population declining by the millions, most of the world not supporting Russia and the Russian currency being in free fall
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6/ Ha launched not a single war.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Sure, he only sent Russian soldiers to fight in other countries without declaring war. Unfortunately, their deaths tasted the same whether the war was declared or not.
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7/ He gave a hope to the mankind to get rid of the Evil.
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

It's so unfortunate that the manking has not noticed that
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Now if he succeeds in leading the ship through the troubled waters he will enter to the history as a savior
(RK, 31 January 2015 11:37)

Well, a good captain does not send the ship towards troubled waters, in the first place

icj1

pre 9 godina

Indeed, Putin responded by sending hundreds of convoys carrying food and other humanitarian aid and by opening Russia's borders to accommodate the 500000 refugees.Even an idiotic Albanian would know that had Putin sent his army in Ukraine Poroshenko and his fellow nazis would've been history.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Well, but according to Russia they send Russian soldiers to Crimea :) so your story still does not make sense. But don't worry mate, I totally sympathize. It's hard to make sense with lies, except perhaps to people like rote!
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Evidence or just farting.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Evidence that your statement that NATO "lost its entire reason for being" was totally wrong?! Putin's actions are evidence of that; they speak for themselve. The Baltic states would have had the fate of Ukraine had not they been NATO members. That's why Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro all want to join NATO.
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As long as they are allowed to print and kick the can down the road they could survive a little longer.However,the day of reckoning is not far away.
(Leonidas, 2 February 2015 14:46)

Oh, OK so what you said that "there is "no money left"" is irrelevant until the day of reckoning. Let us know when that day comes; it's so many years that we'll all impatiently waiting that joyous news based on the predictions of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist.

icj1

pre 9 godina

My ignorant Albanian voyeur Russia didn't send any soldiers to Crimea,they were already there. Get your facts right before yo post your nonsense.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Great, thanks for proving my point!
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Can you name Putin's " actions" ? Have you got any evidence that he's invaded Ukraine?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Crimea + Eastern Ukraine
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Of course Ukraine, Georgia and Montenegro want to join Nato but will Nato still be around after the monumental defeat it suffered in Afganistan?
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

Well, your can deal with the "will" part. Other people prefer to deal with existing things and problems rather than hypothetical ones.
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Well what SJ and others (including myself) have been saying all this time is the entire US financial system is nothing but a big
'shell game'in which many of the participants have now actually realised, that there is in fact no pea underneath any of the shells.That the entire system is nothing but a BIG FRAUD.A PONZI SCHEME OF THE GREATEST PROPORTIONS. And the corrupt mainstream media is in on the fraud.
(Leonidas, 3 February 2015 17:49)

OK, let's say it is so. But people in the US are happy with that and many other people from other countries who emigrate or try to emigrate to the US like it. So that's the end of the story :) I don't get it why they should care about something that does not bother them, but bothers you lol