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Paris attacks compared to NATO bombing of Serbian TV

Noam Chomsky has compared the terrorist attack on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo to <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=90075" class="text-link" target= "_blank">NATO's 1999 airstrike on the Serbian broadcaster RTS.</a>

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Peggy

pre 9 godina

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand
====================
What propaganda and hate speech are you talking about?
Serbs were getting slaughtered and ethnically cleansed and you expect warm fuzzy expressions of love and peace?
What was the western media all about? Love or hate towards Serbs? Should they have been bombed for that?
Now that's a comparrison I think you will find correct.
So should CNN or BBC have been bombed?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.
(azir, 22 January 2015 11:32)
===========================
You're getting worse. Seek help fast.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.
(Questioner, 22 January 2015 17:49)
================================
Yes, he is still taken seriously.
Not long ago he was invited by Deakin University in Australia to speak. The hall was packed. You might not want to hear what he has to say but a lot of people still do.
Next question.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Chomsky is an example of old people getting a bit crazy in their mind. I didn't know that the Islamic terrorist warned the editor of Charlie Hebdoe before the attack, and he refused to evacuate the building, like it was in case with RTS. So I rarely heard a more stupid comparison than that one.

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand, I can only assume that they think similar as the islamists with their 'insulting the prophet' nonsense.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.

azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.

think about it

pre 9 godina

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.
(Peggy, 22 January 2015 04:55)
The most appropriate response to that could only be:


And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

For a 'smart' guy Chomsky you are really dumb.
(azir, 21 January 2015 11:34)
=-------------------------

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

Bob

pre 9 godina

When I said he's a nutter (earlier post) that was a reference to the Dragolub post in the context of my earlier post where my comments had been edited. Do people really talk like that?!

svabo

pre 9 godina

Okay, the West will never ever apologize for murdering muslims or orthodox EVER, you might get it by now, won't you?
Please join the EU they love you they are your friends. We all love each other and say hail to the pope and hail to israel.

azir

pre 9 godina

According to Chumpsky since NATO helped stop Genocide in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova then they along with EU,UNSC ,US and freedom loving people must now somehow be considered 'Terrorists' all because this one 'smart' misguided individual says so?

I think you are a Chump and in need of correct information.

rote

pre 9 godina

Cynic is the West ! The only guilt of the 16 journalists in the Belgrade TV center was that they were giving a “wrong” picture. When CNN said that the streets and bridges were empty Serbs showed the crowds , when Fox said the bombings were very precise Serbs showed the destroyed civil objects ect. Same is happening in Donbass today. If you say the truth they blame you of Putin’s propaganda but in 1999 the truth was called as Miloshevic propaganda. I think that some peoples are appointed as bad guys with Serbs and the Russians among them. They call it DRANG NACH OSTEN while mentally Serbs also belong to the East.

Ivan

pre 9 godina

Well atleast they didn't hit schools,hospitals,embassies,buses,trains..... These guys have precision weapons. They don't miss. This is how freedom and democracy are spread. 21 century. Collateral Damage. That's the word.

j

pre 9 godina

RTV had to be stopped. Could have probably be done without bombing. Its like allowing North Korean propaganda machinery to go on if the West had a conflict with them. At that point RTV was a war tool for Milosevic, not a free media. Wag the Dog was on a loop uninterrupted for hours and hours while a war was going on.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

YEP. Read Cross and ISIS are the same. Send him to see a doctor.
(Avni, 20 January 2015 17:32)
===========================
He didn't even mention Red Cross so what are you on?
Why are you trying to muddy the waters and change the subject?
NATO and ISIS are the same. They both kill anyone who doesn't conform.

Je Suis RTV

pre 9 godina

Well said Mr Chomsky!
The western mass media (US propaganda) is clearly agenda driven and its illegal wars of terror have no bounds!
The attack on RTV was far worse than what happened in Paris, yet NATO / US are immune from any prosecution!
The US continues to distort the truth to meet its own sick and vile agenda.

Bob

pre 9 godina

I was going to write about Chomsky going back to rethink his linguistics in the light of modern understandings of the reality of the processes involved, and to add the comment that his view of politics is as irrelevant as anyone else's, so I wonder why he gets quoted.

There's always someone ready to make an anti-establishment comment, and Chomsky does tend to be one of them.

However, I am most taken by the Dragolub diatribe in these postings. What a rant! Are there really people who talk like that?!

EU Dude

pre 9 godina

NATO is immune from prosecution for its war crimes. So with the same breath as they declare 'freedom of speech' under any circumstances, they bomb the fk out of anyone they don't like hearing from.

It's clear to the rest of the world that what NATO and the West say, and what they do are two completely separate things. Nothing but classic cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Serbia Guilty Only Because We Love Our Lord Holy and Crucified in Heaven!!! The Eastern Orthodox Slavic people sentenced to death for ages by Satanic evil living among the mortal in the Vatican! Our Serbian Eastern Orthodox Blood for ages now staining our precious and sacred lands that we paid for with the blood of our fathers over and over! Today a modern world but we Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic people in the most danger of all times! Satan and ancient evil for ages now with their dirty claws clenched on our shoulders! The Sword of Redemption at our finger tips but Serbian cival leaders resist to take possession of it. Today first priority for Serbia is SURVIVAL of our race! Serbian cival leaders MUST NEVER permit our sacred race to be exterminated by Satan! Satan and Evil is out there, it is a cold and cruel world and the Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox blood that stains the earth of all Europe is evidence for us all! Our Serbian blood, why is it so important for Satan to spill? Why are all Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christians hated so much by Satan? Our Fathers who are now in Heaven with Our Lord Crucified and Holy look down upon us with tears on all of our shoulders! All Slavic Eastern Orthodox people, Our Sacred Brothers and Sisters, who were murdered by Satan, every life that was cut short is a part of us still living that we lost. Serbia MUST take possession of the Sword of Redemption, it is our Salvation! God Bless Russia, Serbia and ALL Eastern Orthodox Slavs

Sreten

pre 9 godina

Oh, come on, Chomsky.
We all know that "freedom of speech" is meant only for those that will say something they like. The rest can get bombed, and then it's okay.
In fact, you can silence all the voices you don't like, in the name of freedom of speech.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Serbia Guilty Only Because We Love Our Lord Holy and Crucified in Heaven!!! The Eastern Orthodox Slavic people sentenced to death for ages by Satanic evil living among the mortal in the Vatican! Our Serbian Eastern Orthodox Blood for ages now staining our precious and sacred lands that we paid for with the blood of our fathers over and over! Today a modern world but we Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic people in the most danger of all times! Satan and ancient evil for ages now with their dirty claws clenched on our shoulders! The Sword of Redemption at our finger tips but Serbian cival leaders resist to take possession of it. Today first priority for Serbia is SURVIVAL of our race! Serbian cival leaders MUST NEVER permit our sacred race to be exterminated by Satan! Satan and Evil is out there, it is a cold and cruel world and the Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox blood that stains the earth of all Europe is evidence for us all! Our Serbian blood, why is it so important for Satan to spill? Why are all Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christians hated so much by Satan? Our Fathers who are now in Heaven with Our Lord Crucified and Holy look down upon us with tears on all of our shoulders! All Slavic Eastern Orthodox people, Our Sacred Brothers and Sisters, who were murdered by Satan, every life that was cut short is a part of us still living that we lost. Serbia MUST take possession of the Sword of Redemption, it is our Salvation! God Bless Russia, Serbia and ALL Eastern Orthodox Slavs

Peggy

pre 9 godina

YEP. Read Cross and ISIS are the same. Send him to see a doctor.
(Avni, 20 January 2015 17:32)
===========================
He didn't even mention Red Cross so what are you on?
Why are you trying to muddy the waters and change the subject?
NATO and ISIS are the same. They both kill anyone who doesn't conform.

Sreten

pre 9 godina

Oh, come on, Chomsky.
We all know that "freedom of speech" is meant only for those that will say something they like. The rest can get bombed, and then it's okay.
In fact, you can silence all the voices you don't like, in the name of freedom of speech.

EU Dude

pre 9 godina

NATO is immune from prosecution for its war crimes. So with the same breath as they declare 'freedom of speech' under any circumstances, they bomb the fk out of anyone they don't like hearing from.

It's clear to the rest of the world that what NATO and the West say, and what they do are two completely separate things. Nothing but classic cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy.

Je Suis RTV

pre 9 godina

Well said Mr Chomsky!
The western mass media (US propaganda) is clearly agenda driven and its illegal wars of terror have no bounds!
The attack on RTV was far worse than what happened in Paris, yet NATO / US are immune from any prosecution!
The US continues to distort the truth to meet its own sick and vile agenda.

Ivan

pre 9 godina

Well atleast they didn't hit schools,hospitals,embassies,buses,trains..... These guys have precision weapons. They don't miss. This is how freedom and democracy are spread. 21 century. Collateral Damage. That's the word.

rote

pre 9 godina

Cynic is the West ! The only guilt of the 16 journalists in the Belgrade TV center was that they were giving a “wrong” picture. When CNN said that the streets and bridges were empty Serbs showed the crowds , when Fox said the bombings were very precise Serbs showed the destroyed civil objects ect. Same is happening in Donbass today. If you say the truth they blame you of Putin’s propaganda but in 1999 the truth was called as Miloshevic propaganda. I think that some peoples are appointed as bad guys with Serbs and the Russians among them. They call it DRANG NACH OSTEN while mentally Serbs also belong to the East.

Bob

pre 9 godina

I was going to write about Chomsky going back to rethink his linguistics in the light of modern understandings of the reality of the processes involved, and to add the comment that his view of politics is as irrelevant as anyone else's, so I wonder why he gets quoted.

There's always someone ready to make an anti-establishment comment, and Chomsky does tend to be one of them.

However, I am most taken by the Dragolub diatribe in these postings. What a rant! Are there really people who talk like that?!

j

pre 9 godina

RTV had to be stopped. Could have probably be done without bombing. Its like allowing North Korean propaganda machinery to go on if the West had a conflict with them. At that point RTV was a war tool for Milosevic, not a free media. Wag the Dog was on a loop uninterrupted for hours and hours while a war was going on.

azir

pre 9 godina

According to Chumpsky since NATO helped stop Genocide in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova then they along with EU,UNSC ,US and freedom loving people must now somehow be considered 'Terrorists' all because this one 'smart' misguided individual says so?

I think you are a Chump and in need of correct information.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

For a 'smart' guy Chomsky you are really dumb.
(azir, 21 January 2015 11:34)
=-------------------------

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.
(Questioner, 22 January 2015 17:49)
================================
Yes, he is still taken seriously.
Not long ago he was invited by Deakin University in Australia to speak. The hall was packed. You might not want to hear what he has to say but a lot of people still do.
Next question.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand
====================
What propaganda and hate speech are you talking about?
Serbs were getting slaughtered and ethnically cleansed and you expect warm fuzzy expressions of love and peace?
What was the western media all about? Love or hate towards Serbs? Should they have been bombed for that?
Now that's a comparrison I think you will find correct.
So should CNN or BBC have been bombed?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.
(azir, 22 January 2015 11:32)
===========================
You're getting worse. Seek help fast.

think about it

pre 9 godina

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.
(Peggy, 22 January 2015 04:55)
The most appropriate response to that could only be:


And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Chomsky is an example of old people getting a bit crazy in their mind. I didn't know that the Islamic terrorist warned the editor of Charlie Hebdoe before the attack, and he refused to evacuate the building, like it was in case with RTS. So I rarely heard a more stupid comparison than that one.

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand, I can only assume that they think similar as the islamists with their 'insulting the prophet' nonsense.

Bob

pre 9 godina

When I said he's a nutter (earlier post) that was a reference to the Dragolub post in the context of my earlier post where my comments had been edited. Do people really talk like that?!

svabo

pre 9 godina

Okay, the West will never ever apologize for murdering muslims or orthodox EVER, you might get it by now, won't you?
Please join the EU they love you they are your friends. We all love each other and say hail to the pope and hail to israel.

azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.

Bob

pre 9 godina

I was going to write about Chomsky going back to rethink his linguistics in the light of modern understandings of the reality of the processes involved, and to add the comment that his view of politics is as irrelevant as anyone else's, so I wonder why he gets quoted.

There's always someone ready to make an anti-establishment comment, and Chomsky does tend to be one of them.

However, I am most taken by the Dragolub diatribe in these postings. What a rant! Are there really people who talk like that?!

j

pre 9 godina

RTV had to be stopped. Could have probably be done without bombing. Its like allowing North Korean propaganda machinery to go on if the West had a conflict with them. At that point RTV was a war tool for Milosevic, not a free media. Wag the Dog was on a loop uninterrupted for hours and hours while a war was going on.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Serbia Guilty Only Because We Love Our Lord Holy and Crucified in Heaven!!! The Eastern Orthodox Slavic people sentenced to death for ages by Satanic evil living among the mortal in the Vatican! Our Serbian Eastern Orthodox Blood for ages now staining our precious and sacred lands that we paid for with the blood of our fathers over and over! Today a modern world but we Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic people in the most danger of all times! Satan and ancient evil for ages now with their dirty claws clenched on our shoulders! The Sword of Redemption at our finger tips but Serbian cival leaders resist to take possession of it. Today first priority for Serbia is SURVIVAL of our race! Serbian cival leaders MUST NEVER permit our sacred race to be exterminated by Satan! Satan and Evil is out there, it is a cold and cruel world and the Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox blood that stains the earth of all Europe is evidence for us all! Our Serbian blood, why is it so important for Satan to spill? Why are all Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christians hated so much by Satan? Our Fathers who are now in Heaven with Our Lord Crucified and Holy look down upon us with tears on all of our shoulders! All Slavic Eastern Orthodox people, Our Sacred Brothers and Sisters, who were murdered by Satan, every life that was cut short is a part of us still living that we lost. Serbia MUST take possession of the Sword of Redemption, it is our Salvation! God Bless Russia, Serbia and ALL Eastern Orthodox Slavs

azir

pre 9 godina

According to Chumpsky since NATO helped stop Genocide in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova then they along with EU,UNSC ,US and freedom loving people must now somehow be considered 'Terrorists' all because this one 'smart' misguided individual says so?

I think you are a Chump and in need of correct information.

Je Suis RTV

pre 9 godina

Well said Mr Chomsky!
The western mass media (US propaganda) is clearly agenda driven and its illegal wars of terror have no bounds!
The attack on RTV was far worse than what happened in Paris, yet NATO / US are immune from any prosecution!
The US continues to distort the truth to meet its own sick and vile agenda.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

YEP. Read Cross and ISIS are the same. Send him to see a doctor.
(Avni, 20 January 2015 17:32)
===========================
He didn't even mention Red Cross so what are you on?
Why are you trying to muddy the waters and change the subject?
NATO and ISIS are the same. They both kill anyone who doesn't conform.

rote

pre 9 godina

Cynic is the West ! The only guilt of the 16 journalists in the Belgrade TV center was that they were giving a “wrong” picture. When CNN said that the streets and bridges were empty Serbs showed the crowds , when Fox said the bombings were very precise Serbs showed the destroyed civil objects ect. Same is happening in Donbass today. If you say the truth they blame you of Putin’s propaganda but in 1999 the truth was called as Miloshevic propaganda. I think that some peoples are appointed as bad guys with Serbs and the Russians among them. They call it DRANG NACH OSTEN while mentally Serbs also belong to the East.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

For a 'smart' guy Chomsky you are really dumb.
(azir, 21 January 2015 11:34)
=-------------------------

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.

EU Dude

pre 9 godina

NATO is immune from prosecution for its war crimes. So with the same breath as they declare 'freedom of speech' under any circumstances, they bomb the fk out of anyone they don't like hearing from.

It's clear to the rest of the world that what NATO and the West say, and what they do are two completely separate things. Nothing but classic cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy.

Sreten

pre 9 godina

Oh, come on, Chomsky.
We all know that "freedom of speech" is meant only for those that will say something they like. The rest can get bombed, and then it's okay.
In fact, you can silence all the voices you don't like, in the name of freedom of speech.

svabo

pre 9 godina

Okay, the West will never ever apologize for murdering muslims or orthodox EVER, you might get it by now, won't you?
Please join the EU they love you they are your friends. We all love each other and say hail to the pope and hail to israel.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand
====================
What propaganda and hate speech are you talking about?
Serbs were getting slaughtered and ethnically cleansed and you expect warm fuzzy expressions of love and peace?
What was the western media all about? Love or hate towards Serbs? Should they have been bombed for that?
Now that's a comparrison I think you will find correct.
So should CNN or BBC have been bombed?

Ivan

pre 9 godina

Well atleast they didn't hit schools,hospitals,embassies,buses,trains..... These guys have precision weapons. They don't miss. This is how freedom and democracy are spread. 21 century. Collateral Damage. That's the word.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy you are telling us Serbs are good enough to shine his shoes and that's why he prostituted himself for your doomed evil cause.

He and others that follow him will burn in Hell.
(azir, 22 January 2015 11:32)
===========================
You're getting worse. Seek help fast.

think about it

pre 9 godina

And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.
(Peggy, 22 January 2015 04:55)
The most appropriate response to that could only be:


And you're in a position to say that.
You are not good enough to shine his shoes let alone pass judgment on his intelligence.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Chomsky is an example of old people getting a bit crazy in their mind. I didn't know that the Islamic terrorist warned the editor of Charlie Hebdoe before the attack, and he refused to evacuate the building, like it was in case with RTS. So I rarely heard a more stupid comparison than that one.

And if some people here cannot see a difference between 'freedom of speech' and satire on the one hand vs. propaganda and hate speech on the other hand, I can only assume that they think similar as the islamists with their 'insulting the prophet' nonsense.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That statement doesn't surprise me. Does anyone still take Noam Chomsky serious? A shame to see what a once renowned linguist and scientists turned into.
(Questioner, 22 January 2015 17:49)
================================
Yes, he is still taken seriously.
Not long ago he was invited by Deakin University in Australia to speak. The hall was packed. You might not want to hear what he has to say but a lot of people still do.
Next question.

Bob

pre 9 godina

When I said he's a nutter (earlier post) that was a reference to the Dragolub post in the context of my earlier post where my comments had been edited. Do people really talk like that?!