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Friday, 16.01.2015.

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Takeover of mine "would deal heavy blow to Kosovo talks"

Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue."

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Kojak

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......
(Azir, 20 January 2015 02:30)

I prefer Albanian cultural and domestic habits more: Donkey see donkey do.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......

Kojak

pre 9 godina

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.
(Azir, 19 January 2015 01:31)

And your cure is a Greek enema.

Hi

pre 9 godina

"Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...
(icj1, 19 January 2015 15:17)"

Actually the churches and monasteries burned in 2004 were rebuilt with funds from the Kosovo budget. So, in fact, the Kosovo government did pay for the rebuilding of those places.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)"

And when you have a contract where it says that you are the owner of something that means that YOU ARE THE OWNER. And we didnt loose anything.

http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
Trepca General Manager Jovan Dimkic underlined that the issue of the legal status of public enterprises, primarily that mining complex in the north, should be put on the agenda of the Brussels talks. He voiced expectation that would happen soon given that the Serbian government had strongly insisted several times on addressing the issue of public property in the province, including the legal status of enterprises. “From the very beginning, our stand has been that only the one who is a real owner of the Trepca mining complex (the state of Serbia) can talk with everyone, including the so-called Kosovo government,” Dimkic said.

Read More at inserbia.info/today/2013/10/new-projects-to-help-recovery-of-trepca-mining-complex-in-kosovo/ © InSerbia News
According to UNMIK, the Trepca Kosovo Mine is 66 percent owned by the Serbian Development Fund, 27 percent is publicly owned, 2.5 percent is owned by Jugbanka. 2.5 percent by the Belgrade Bank, and 2 percent by the EPS.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2? "

You are the one that is a twisted, deluded and lying barbarian that comes to a serbian site to spew propaganda, lies and hatred. Tell me how can a country be an agressor in its own territory? Do you even know what the term aggressor means? Apparently not and yes Germany paid billions of dollars to compensate for its crimes and was ruled by foreign nations for many may years but Germany was a conqueror and not a country that fought vs terrorists in a civil war like we serbs did.

If you want us to pay for alledged "crimes" then you should pay for every single chuch you burned, every single monestery, every single graveyard, every single company that you stole from the state and last but most important for the thousands of serbs that you slaughtered and for the hundreds of thousands that you ethnically cleansed.

And if you have the courage give me your mail so we can arrange a meeting.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.
(Daniel, 19 January 2015 00:49)

Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...

icj1

pre 9 godina

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.
(Daniel, 17 January 2015 02:14)

Exactly, so all this talk about violence, heavy blow to negotiatiosn and bla bla bla is rubbish. If anybody has any complaints, see you in court and you wisely suggested.

sherlock holmes

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Only an Albanian can write this garbage. Just read the first paragraph to be convinced. To remind you that many Albanians spell themselves Albaniens. Sounds to me like angry full of venom roberto on steroids with a tell-tell moniker that he/she couldn't resist. The second paragraph is so insanely Albanian that it makes me laugh.
Check this out:
". After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard."

Only "the most bizzare and sick" minds can have the need to write this garbage and then sign it with some other
nations names. So typical of Albanians that visit this forum.
The best clue is the fact that no German in his or her right mind would sit around and waste time on a computer making nonsense up unless it were their payed job.

Not quite as you say

pre 9 godina

My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.
(DD, 18 January 2015 23:46)
We hear how Serbia did everything for Kosovo, of course out of that 5% he paid, Serbia did not build a road, an airport a hospital, a factory in Serbia did they? Now in this story we hear how valuable these mines were and how much money was generated from them that ALL went to Serbia, so it seems that in reality it was the people of Kosovo that provided the money for everything built in Serbia instead of the other way around. If the money from the mines were spent in Kosovo as should be then it would be far more advanced than Belgrade ever dreamed of.
Maybe its time to retell the story with the truth.

rickyrick

pre 9 godina

Serbia did contribute in trepca mining complex in ex yugoslavia as much as albanians croats bosnians macedonians and slovenens did .So serbian property talks in this case is getting old

Wrong Peggy

pre 9 godina

"There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.
(Peggy, 18 January 2015 23:00) "

Doubtful as most of the Socially Owned Enterprises (SOEs) were privatized under the auspices of the Kosovo Trust Agency which was created and managed by UNMIK. The KTA was later replaced by the Kosovo Privatization Agency. While individual sales are certainly liable to litigation, especially when it comes to the distribution of revenue from the sales or technical issues with the sale of an individual enterprise, the legality of the process is pretty well established.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2?
Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)
There were Germans that were ethnicly cleansed from Serbia.
I am not supporting those Germans just using them as an example to show how ridiculious your claims are and of other shameless serbs.

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.
observer

and Willi Pfaff will be playing the part of Goebbels the propaganda minister.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Yes the superiority of the Serbian Army over unarmed women and children was well demonstrated when they surrounded the family compound and destroyed it with tank fire. You can walk the ground still today and see the destruction and view the graves of the women and children. By the way, they did it while he wasn't there just so there's no mistake on your part that he was using them as some sort of shield.
(Still Wrong, 18 January 2015 11:43)

Wrong again, he was there righ there and right then.
Beginning in 1991, Jashari participated in attacks against the Serbian police before travelling to Albania to receive military training. Arrested in 1993, he was released at the behest of the Albanian Army and later returned to Kosovo, where he continued launching attacks against the Serbian establishment. In July 1997, he was convicted of terrorism in absentia by a Yugoslav court. After several unsuccessful attempts to capture or kill him, Serbian forces launched an attack against Jashari's home in Prekaz in March 1998. The battle that followed resulted in the deaths of 58 members of Jashari's family, including that of Jashari and his wife and son.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@ (observer, 18 January 2015 17:42)

Dear Observer, we would like to inform you that we decided not to give the leading role in my upcoming movie, 'Ari, the Hitler youth member' to Mr. Gold. It actually was amazing what he showed during the casting. He didn’t even have to act, and was able to blossom in the this role without any problem. I guess the reason for it is that his life mirrors the true life of our poor and despicable leading character. The reason we didn’t give him the role is that we think we need a more attractive and sexier looking person for that role.

Because of his unquestionable qualifications we decided to cast him for the leading role in our sequel: ‘Ari's Fascist Horror Picture Show’. It plays in Kosovo, and Mr Gold is already looking forward to perform in it. He said, and I quote: ‘ This movie finally gives me the chance to outlive all my fantasies, and therefore I think I am the most qualified person to play the role of Ari’. We promise you that this move will come as close as possible to reality, and will show you things you never saw before in your life. Be prepared for 2 hours of previously unseen scenes which will chill you to the bone. We are sorry that it will have a NC-17 rating, because we think everybody should see it in order to help preventing this type of tragedy from ever happening again.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Justice is the key word here.
(azir, 17 January 2015 21:24)

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.

DD

pre 9 godina

The problem is, everything that has been built in Kosovo in the last 50 years was built by the Serbs. Starting from roads, airport, mines ... My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)
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There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.

observer

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.
(simple as that, 17 January 2015 14:37)

And what about the serbian companies that the albanians privatized, the churches and monesterys that they burned, the desecrated graveyards and ethnical cleansing of 200 000 serbs, murders of more than 2000 serb civilians, who will pay for that?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)

Of course the serbian state has a say since it owns the mine, it couldve been located on Mars that doesnt change the matter.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 January 2015 20:01)

No, I'm not insane. It says nothing about it in the Brussels Agreement and I never said it did.

azir

pre 9 godina

After all these years of 'Kosovo is the cradle of Serbdom'
finally the truth is told that all that prapaganda,all that agression and colonization
for the almighty dollar (dinar in this case).

Money from the exploitation of indigenous Kosovar' natural resources led Serbs to act and behave in this greedy and selfish manner.

Criminals must never benefit from their crimes and Serbs must pay for what they did and continue to do.

Justice is the key word here.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

Why do I always have to correctly edit these articles?

"Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue."

It should really read:

Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to Belgrade and all of Serbias dreams."

simple as that

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)
Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(delon, 16 January 2015 20:20)
I say in another comment that Serbian-Croatian is younger than Albanian but according to the theory, Balto-Slavic predates Albanian so Slavs were earlier in the region than Albananians. And Serbs after all are Slavs and Serbian is a Slavic language derived from Balto-Slavic. So according to the autochtonous theory of what-his-name and many Albanians including the PM, Slavs are more autochtonous than Albanians.

All this talk is BS to me.
Regarding your question how it should be settled: the mine belongs to the ones who have current ownership papers and their shareholders. Nationalization is daylight robbery. If you think that the Albanian people in Kosovo would profit, then you are wrong. Profits will go to the ones who would buy the mine and the price of the sale would end up in the pockets of the mafia in Pristina.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Some people say Serbia still says Kosovo is a part of serbia so if this was true all Serbia would do is send police and troops to the mines and take them over!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk"

The location doesnt matter, what matters is that the Serbian state owns 65%of the stocks, it couldve been located on the north pole it still would have been property of the Serbian state.
http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
owever, in 2008, the international administration declared valid the old Trepca structure, based on which the Serbian government, through its development fund, owns a 66 percent stake in Trepca, while the rest is owned by shareholders, including employees.

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff has no first hand knowledge and yet he portrays himself as some sort of expert.

He doesn't have an original thought just roberto's pathetic minion - regurgatating little roberto's propoganda with the same old buzz words hoping to get attention and a false sense of importance. Pathetic.

The ICTY released the findings of Western forensic teams investigating Trepca. Not a single body was found in the mine shafts, nor was there any evidence there had ever been an attempt to dissolve human remains.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 21:37)

Willi Pfaff has a very elaborate (albeit disturbing) imagination. In a past life, Willi could have been a Hollywood scriptwriter and made millions. But sadly, he is just in the twilight of his life trying to make Hitler and Dr. Mengele proud by spreading Nazism and hatred on social media. He hasn't achieved much in life, but can afford a keyboard and an internet connection, so he has something to keep him preoccupied until his passing.

P.s Willi, Serbia never lost the war in Kosovo-Metohija. Sure as hell not against the Albanians. Adem Jashiri led the KLA when Serbian hospitals and schools were not being bombarded by NATO planes, and we saw what happened with that terrorist. The KLA could not even have its way with the Serbs in Northern Kosovo-Metohija because they already tried in 2011.

Serbia not only has the legal basis as far as Trepca is concerned, but the portion of Trepca that is in the Northern, free part of Kosovo-Metohija will never be under Pristina control because Pristina does not possess the physical strength to subdue this area.

But leave it to the kosovaris to work over-time at trying to steal something that isn't theirs just so they don't have to work an honest, actual job. Must be all that money from the West is drying up and drying up fast.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)

Daniel,
Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk. You know very well Serbia is in no position to do so. Your wings were clipped once and forever. You seem to have the attitude that everything Serbia controlled before the war in 1999 still belongs to Serbia. Sorry my friend but, to the victor go the spoils.

Robert O

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Let me guess. More pressure to write anything anti-Serb from your Albanian partners.
Let me guess again. The two of you are the submissive ones in your relationships like the German spy
that got busted in Kosovo sharing secret information with his handsome Albanian partner.

P.S. The name or moniker Willi Pfaff is so apropos that it still kills me when I read it.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

another thing should not be forgotten when it comes to the Trepca mines: When it was clear that Serbia was going to loose the war in Kosovo and prepared for its retreat, they started digging out the massgraves they had created in Kosovo, and some of the bodies were simply depost of by burning the bodies at the Trepca smeltering ovens and than the remains / ashes were dumped in the mine shafts. Another sick war crime Serbia copied from the Nazis and never payed for. Whatever they couldn't burn was than transported into Serbia in put into other massgraves there or dumped in the Danube river, or lakes nearby. As everybody knows some of the mass graves inside Serbia were found in the meantime and the dead bodies identified as Kosovaars. The remains of part of the still missing Kosovo Albanies (about 1700) are in those Trepca mine shafts, and it is just more than disgusting that Serbia brings up this subject now. That gang of politicans running Serbia nowadays has not learned anything and has no moral scrupels whatsoever.

delon

pre 9 godina

@ JOE A,
the 3rd link that you brought ,which is also from same author,if you se the language tree graphic ,Albanian language starts more then 5000 years ago and Serbian language is les then 1000 years.
These are theories , after all.
Hard evidences ,original writings,tells us that Slavs came to our region on 7th century.

My question to you is this, what do you suggest to resolve the dispute between Albanians and Serbs regarding Kosova ?
Should we follow historic facts who was here first ,who control it today, or who is more stronger ?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Are you insane? Where in the Brussels Agreement does it say Serbia has to relinquish its property and assets in Kosovo-Metohija? How does Pristina expect to take over a mine in a part of Kosovo-Metohija they do not possess the physical strength to control?

Tell your Talibanian organ traffickers that the time for handouts and stealing from other people is over. Maybe you should tell them it's time to get to work and to stop trying to look for more ways to take something that isn't theirs. If they put so much effort into an honest days work as they do trying to steal from others, Kosovo-Metohija would be Switzerland today.

azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel how much compensation does Serbia owe Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova for Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity etc......

The countrys natural resources belong ti its people and Serbs are foreineets on our Kosova.

Loda

pre 9 godina

Oh i forgot Kosovo is "not" independent, but Serbia now is the one that
wants talks in Brussels. Makes sense how Kosovo belongs to Serbia.
This is the reality my serbian friends. Wake up!!

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe:

"Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of."

According to that theory Albanian evolved from Balto-Slavic, which I have hard to believe but let us say so. That means that pre Albanian is Balto-Slavic, which gives todays Albanians the equal right to these areas as the BALTO-SLAVIC people, and not the newcomers serbs! The correlation between todays Albanian and the “old” Albanian is far bigger than serbian and Balto-Slavic. Hell even todays slavic languages are so different to eachother that they cannot undestand one another.

When Illyria aka the Balkan got invaded by the beginning of the first millennium, the Vatican state in Italy was at that time the Encyclopedia and gathered all information. They have no files at all saying that the Albanians came to the Balkans, but they do for Serbs and Croats. So either are they lying and have done some "provokacija" to the serbs or are the serbs as usual lying?

And no, this is not an open nerve at all, but I cannot understand that so many serbs - not only uneducated but also educated and more civilized than the average serb - are so brainwashed and allergic to the truth about the origin of Albanians.

Peace!

the truth

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.
(sj, 16 January 2015 12:02)

There is no dispute here, since Trepqa is on Kosova land. Forget the idea of being Serbian state own mine. This just shows very clearly that ; Kosova is not the cradle of Serbia as claimed till now, but is all about the mineral wealth that Kosova has, and always has been the case.

Not Really

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

There's still hundreds of thousands of nazi war criminials living out a comfortable life in Germany on a big fat pension. Throw in Austria's contribution and not even a pretend de-nazification like Germany and as usual, Pfaff Willi's facts are substantially wrong.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:23)
*Joe, whad do you think you have in common with Balto-Slavic ??
I am not even Slavic so no. The current Slavs have just as much in common with the Balto-Slavic as the current Albanians with the old ones. Or the modern Greek with the old Greek. So that is why my comment of hellooo 21st century. It is just that there are some people who adhere to the 'Blud und Boden' idea of 'we being authochtonous' BS.

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:19)
Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of. But this discussion is so utterly useless since the genepole has mixed over time. Oh, and the human genome is for 97% similar to that of chimps so can you imagine how small the differences are between the various 'races'?

I see I touched an open nerve with some people.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

They are not war criminals, they have defended their country honourably against the real war criminals. I believe you've got it the other way around boy.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.
(observer, 16 January 2015 14:42)

At least he's Serbian and is entitled to express his dissatisfaction amongst his countrymen. Remember this is a Serbian forum, so if you don't like what is being said, then go to an Albanian one. No one has asked for your two cents nor does anyone care for your opinions.

observer

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff said recently - nothing good ever came from serbia.

He is a hater who promotes discord.

Willi Pfaff is a hypocrite.
(Roger7, 16 January 2015 13:23)

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(azir, 16 January 2015 11:51)
"Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants."
You forgot the word 'original'.

So if that is all true then how do you explain the next animation:
http://www.businessinsider.com/map-how-indo-european-languages-evolved-2014-12

This is a new theory that claims that European language originated from Anatolia.
Here more info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/science/indo-european-languages-originated-in-anatolia-analysis-suggests.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/24/science/0824-origins.html?ref=science

If you look at the animation then Balto-Slavic started around 5000 BC and Albanian around 3000BC, a 2000 year difference. So Slavs earlier in the region then Albanians? While Albanian is older than Serbian-Croation, the latter evolved from Balto-Slavic. And according to this theory Balto-Slavic is older than Albanian.
But does it really matter who came first? Hellooo, 21st century.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes. "
(azir, 16 January 2015 12:56)

Sound more like Kosovo to me, a mafia state under a regime lead by former terrorists and mafia bosses which became a safe haven for all kind of criminals, where they the police protects and enables their 'business' providing Europe's main hub for drug distributions.

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia-Belgrade is the Universal War Crimes Capital.

There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes.

Only mushroom clouds will cure this unprecedented evilness.
Jasenovic was a failed attempt to civilized this evil.

International Community must bring Serbia to JUSTICE in order to promote peace and stabilty and most important reconciliation.

EU must not repeat the same mistKes it made with Greece now with their partners in crime Infamous Serbs.

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.

azir

pre 9 godina

Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants.

There is no way 2/3 percent foreign Slav Serb settlers going to have control over 30% of our natural resources.

Serbs committed Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity therefore what ever percentage allowed it must be seized to compensated for numerous Crimes in Kosova.
Serb Criminals must never be rewarded for their crimes.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I guess Wesley Clark as representative of an international mining company is getting impatient and wants to be rewarded for services rendered.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The PAK is preparing a plan for reorganization of Trepca based on which it intends to announce an international tender for the privatization of the mining complex.

That's going to fail. No international company is going to buy something from an agency that doesn't have the right to sell Trepca. Also with 33% of Trepca located in Northern Kosovo-Metohija, where Pristina does not and will not be able to control. What foreign investor would want in on that mess? Unless it's Madeline Albright or Wesley Clark or some other company of a criminal background, you wont find a partner.

What's wrong? You've ran out of money to fund this nonsense and are looking for more. Over 4 decades of receiving 23% of the Yugoslavian budget in give-aways was too little? The EUR 1.2 billion of Serbian property that has been privatized was not enough? The billions in Western donations since the end of the war? You need more handouts, but have you asked your own institutions where all that money has actually went?

Nikolla

pre 9 godina

*Yawn*

These articles are so boring and so 90s.

Also the phrase "since the ethnic Albanians in the southern Serbian province unilaterally proclaimed independence in 2008. " is terribly overused. Get a new one. It's outdated.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.

Nikolla

pre 9 godina

*Yawn*

These articles are so boring and so 90s.

Also the phrase "since the ethnic Albanians in the southern Serbian province unilaterally proclaimed independence in 2008. " is terribly overused. Get a new one. It's outdated.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)

Daniel,
Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk. You know very well Serbia is in no position to do so. Your wings were clipped once and forever. You seem to have the attitude that everything Serbia controlled before the war in 1999 still belongs to Serbia. Sorry my friend but, to the victor go the spoils.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I guess Wesley Clark as representative of an international mining company is getting impatient and wants to be rewarded for services rendered.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

another thing should not be forgotten when it comes to the Trepca mines: When it was clear that Serbia was going to loose the war in Kosovo and prepared for its retreat, they started digging out the massgraves they had created in Kosovo, and some of the bodies were simply depost of by burning the bodies at the Trepca smeltering ovens and than the remains / ashes were dumped in the mine shafts. Another sick war crime Serbia copied from the Nazis and never payed for. Whatever they couldn't burn was than transported into Serbia in put into other massgraves there or dumped in the Danube river, or lakes nearby. As everybody knows some of the mass graves inside Serbia were found in the meantime and the dead bodies identified as Kosovaars. The remains of part of the still missing Kosovo Albanies (about 1700) are in those Trepca mine shafts, and it is just more than disgusting that Serbia brings up this subject now. That gang of politicans running Serbia nowadays has not learned anything and has no moral scrupels whatsoever.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The PAK is preparing a plan for reorganization of Trepca based on which it intends to announce an international tender for the privatization of the mining complex.

That's going to fail. No international company is going to buy something from an agency that doesn't have the right to sell Trepca. Also with 33% of Trepca located in Northern Kosovo-Metohija, where Pristina does not and will not be able to control. What foreign investor would want in on that mess? Unless it's Madeline Albright or Wesley Clark or some other company of a criminal background, you wont find a partner.

What's wrong? You've ran out of money to fund this nonsense and are looking for more. Over 4 decades of receiving 23% of the Yugoslavian budget in give-aways was too little? The EUR 1.2 billion of Serbian property that has been privatized was not enough? The billions in Western donations since the end of the war? You need more handouts, but have you asked your own institutions where all that money has actually went?

azir

pre 9 godina

Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants.

There is no way 2/3 percent foreign Slav Serb settlers going to have control over 30% of our natural resources.

Serbs committed Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity therefore what ever percentage allowed it must be seized to compensated for numerous Crimes in Kosova.
Serb Criminals must never be rewarded for their crimes.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.

observer

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff said recently - nothing good ever came from serbia.

He is a hater who promotes discord.

Willi Pfaff is a hypocrite.
(Roger7, 16 January 2015 13:23)

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

Why do I always have to correctly edit these articles?

"Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue."

It should really read:

Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to Belgrade and all of Serbias dreams."

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes. "
(azir, 16 January 2015 12:56)

Sound more like Kosovo to me, a mafia state under a regime lead by former terrorists and mafia bosses which became a safe haven for all kind of criminals, where they the police protects and enables their 'business' providing Europe's main hub for drug distributions.

the truth

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.
(sj, 16 January 2015 12:02)

There is no dispute here, since Trepqa is on Kosova land. Forget the idea of being Serbian state own mine. This just shows very clearly that ; Kosova is not the cradle of Serbia as claimed till now, but is all about the mineral wealth that Kosova has, and always has been the case.

azir

pre 9 godina

After all these years of 'Kosovo is the cradle of Serbdom'
finally the truth is told that all that prapaganda,all that agression and colonization
for the almighty dollar (dinar in this case).

Money from the exploitation of indigenous Kosovar' natural resources led Serbs to act and behave in this greedy and selfish manner.

Criminals must never benefit from their crimes and Serbs must pay for what they did and continue to do.

Justice is the key word here.

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia-Belgrade is the Universal War Crimes Capital.

There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes.

Only mushroom clouds will cure this unprecedented evilness.
Jasenovic was a failed attempt to civilized this evil.

International Community must bring Serbia to JUSTICE in order to promote peace and stabilty and most important reconciliation.

EU must not repeat the same mistKes it made with Greece now with their partners in crime Infamous Serbs.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

They are not war criminals, they have defended their country honourably against the real war criminals. I believe you've got it the other way around boy.

Not Really

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

There's still hundreds of thousands of nazi war criminials living out a comfortable life in Germany on a big fat pension. Throw in Austria's contribution and not even a pretend de-nazification like Germany and as usual, Pfaff Willi's facts are substantially wrong.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.
(observer, 16 January 2015 14:42)

At least he's Serbian and is entitled to express his dissatisfaction amongst his countrymen. Remember this is a Serbian forum, so if you don't like what is being said, then go to an Albanian one. No one has asked for your two cents nor does anyone care for your opinions.

simple as that

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)
Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.

azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel how much compensation does Serbia owe Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova for Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity etc......

The countrys natural resources belong ti its people and Serbs are foreineets on our Kosova.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(azir, 16 January 2015 11:51)
"Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants."
You forgot the word 'original'.

So if that is all true then how do you explain the next animation:
http://www.businessinsider.com/map-how-indo-european-languages-evolved-2014-12

This is a new theory that claims that European language originated from Anatolia.
Here more info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/science/indo-european-languages-originated-in-anatolia-analysis-suggests.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/24/science/0824-origins.html?ref=science

If you look at the animation then Balto-Slavic started around 5000 BC and Albanian around 3000BC, a 2000 year difference. So Slavs earlier in the region then Albanians? While Albanian is older than Serbian-Croation, the latter evolved from Balto-Slavic. And according to this theory Balto-Slavic is older than Albanian.
But does it really matter who came first? Hellooo, 21st century.

Loda

pre 9 godina

Oh i forgot Kosovo is "not" independent, but Serbia now is the one that
wants talks in Brussels. Makes sense how Kosovo belongs to Serbia.
This is the reality my serbian friends. Wake up!!

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@ (observer, 18 January 2015 17:42)

Dear Observer, we would like to inform you that we decided not to give the leading role in my upcoming movie, 'Ari, the Hitler youth member' to Mr. Gold. It actually was amazing what he showed during the casting. He didn’t even have to act, and was able to blossom in the this role without any problem. I guess the reason for it is that his life mirrors the true life of our poor and despicable leading character. The reason we didn’t give him the role is that we think we need a more attractive and sexier looking person for that role.

Because of his unquestionable qualifications we decided to cast him for the leading role in our sequel: ‘Ari's Fascist Horror Picture Show’. It plays in Kosovo, and Mr Gold is already looking forward to perform in it. He said, and I quote: ‘ This movie finally gives me the chance to outlive all my fantasies, and therefore I think I am the most qualified person to play the role of Ari’. We promise you that this move will come as close as possible to reality, and will show you things you never saw before in your life. Be prepared for 2 hours of previously unseen scenes which will chill you to the bone. We are sorry that it will have a NC-17 rating, because we think everybody should see it in order to help preventing this type of tragedy from ever happening again.

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe:

"Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of."

According to that theory Albanian evolved from Balto-Slavic, which I have hard to believe but let us say so. That means that pre Albanian is Balto-Slavic, which gives todays Albanians the equal right to these areas as the BALTO-SLAVIC people, and not the newcomers serbs! The correlation between todays Albanian and the “old” Albanian is far bigger than serbian and Balto-Slavic. Hell even todays slavic languages are so different to eachother that they cannot undestand one another.

When Illyria aka the Balkan got invaded by the beginning of the first millennium, the Vatican state in Italy was at that time the Encyclopedia and gathered all information. They have no files at all saying that the Albanians came to the Balkans, but they do for Serbs and Croats. So either are they lying and have done some "provokacija" to the serbs or are the serbs as usual lying?

And no, this is not an open nerve at all, but I cannot understand that so many serbs - not only uneducated but also educated and more civilized than the average serb - are so brainwashed and allergic to the truth about the origin of Albanians.

Peace!

delon

pre 9 godina

@ JOE A,
the 3rd link that you brought ,which is also from same author,if you se the language tree graphic ,Albanian language starts more then 5000 years ago and Serbian language is les then 1000 years.
These are theories , after all.
Hard evidences ,original writings,tells us that Slavs came to our region on 7th century.

My question to you is this, what do you suggest to resolve the dispute between Albanians and Serbs regarding Kosova ?
Should we follow historic facts who was here first ,who control it today, or who is more stronger ?

Wrong Peggy

pre 9 godina

"There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.
(Peggy, 18 January 2015 23:00) "

Doubtful as most of the Socially Owned Enterprises (SOEs) were privatized under the auspices of the Kosovo Trust Agency which was created and managed by UNMIK. The KTA was later replaced by the Kosovo Privatization Agency. While individual sales are certainly liable to litigation, especially when it comes to the distribution of revenue from the sales or technical issues with the sale of an individual enterprise, the legality of the process is pretty well established.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Some people say Serbia still says Kosovo is a part of serbia so if this was true all Serbia would do is send police and troops to the mines and take them over!

observer

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 21:37)

Willi Pfaff has a very elaborate (albeit disturbing) imagination. In a past life, Willi could have been a Hollywood scriptwriter and made millions. But sadly, he is just in the twilight of his life trying to make Hitler and Dr. Mengele proud by spreading Nazism and hatred on social media. He hasn't achieved much in life, but can afford a keyboard and an internet connection, so he has something to keep him preoccupied until his passing.

P.s Willi, Serbia never lost the war in Kosovo-Metohija. Sure as hell not against the Albanians. Adem Jashiri led the KLA when Serbian hospitals and schools were not being bombarded by NATO planes, and we saw what happened with that terrorist. The KLA could not even have its way with the Serbs in Northern Kosovo-Metohija because they already tried in 2011.

Serbia not only has the legal basis as far as Trepca is concerned, but the portion of Trepca that is in the Northern, free part of Kosovo-Metohija will never be under Pristina control because Pristina does not possess the physical strength to subdue this area.

But leave it to the kosovaris to work over-time at trying to steal something that isn't theirs just so they don't have to work an honest, actual job. Must be all that money from the West is drying up and drying up fast.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 January 2015 20:01)

No, I'm not insane. It says nothing about it in the Brussels Agreement and I never said it did.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Are you insane? Where in the Brussels Agreement does it say Serbia has to relinquish its property and assets in Kosovo-Metohija? How does Pristina expect to take over a mine in a part of Kosovo-Metohija they do not possess the physical strength to control?

Tell your Talibanian organ traffickers that the time for handouts and stealing from other people is over. Maybe you should tell them it's time to get to work and to stop trying to look for more ways to take something that isn't theirs. If they put so much effort into an honest days work as they do trying to steal from others, Kosovo-Metohija would be Switzerland today.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff has no first hand knowledge and yet he portrays himself as some sort of expert.

He doesn't have an original thought just roberto's pathetic minion - regurgatating little roberto's propoganda with the same old buzz words hoping to get attention and a false sense of importance. Pathetic.

The ICTY released the findings of Western forensic teams investigating Trepca. Not a single body was found in the mine shafts, nor was there any evidence there had ever been an attempt to dissolve human remains.

Robert O

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Let me guess. More pressure to write anything anti-Serb from your Albanian partners.
Let me guess again. The two of you are the submissive ones in your relationships like the German spy
that got busted in Kosovo sharing secret information with his handsome Albanian partner.

P.S. The name or moniker Willi Pfaff is so apropos that it still kills me when I read it.

DD

pre 9 godina

The problem is, everything that has been built in Kosovo in the last 50 years was built by the Serbs. Starting from roads, airport, mines ... My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2?
Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)
There were Germans that were ethnicly cleansed from Serbia.
I am not supporting those Germans just using them as an example to show how ridiculious your claims are and of other shameless serbs.

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)
=====================================
There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.

Not quite as you say

pre 9 godina

My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.
(DD, 18 January 2015 23:46)
We hear how Serbia did everything for Kosovo, of course out of that 5% he paid, Serbia did not build a road, an airport a hospital, a factory in Serbia did they? Now in this story we hear how valuable these mines were and how much money was generated from them that ALL went to Serbia, so it seems that in reality it was the people of Kosovo that provided the money for everything built in Serbia instead of the other way around. If the money from the mines were spent in Kosovo as should be then it would be far more advanced than Belgrade ever dreamed of.
Maybe its time to retell the story with the truth.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.
(Daniel, 17 January 2015 02:14)

Exactly, so all this talk about violence, heavy blow to negotiatiosn and bla bla bla is rubbish. If anybody has any complaints, see you in court and you wisely suggested.

Kojak

pre 9 godina

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.
(Azir, 19 January 2015 01:31)

And your cure is a Greek enema.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(delon, 16 January 2015 20:20)
I say in another comment that Serbian-Croatian is younger than Albanian but according to the theory, Balto-Slavic predates Albanian so Slavs were earlier in the region than Albananians. And Serbs after all are Slavs and Serbian is a Slavic language derived from Balto-Slavic. So according to the autochtonous theory of what-his-name and many Albanians including the PM, Slavs are more autochtonous than Albanians.

All this talk is BS to me.
Regarding your question how it should be settled: the mine belongs to the ones who have current ownership papers and their shareholders. Nationalization is daylight robbery. If you think that the Albanian people in Kosovo would profit, then you are wrong. Profits will go to the ones who would buy the mine and the price of the sale would end up in the pockets of the mafia in Pristina.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.
(Daniel, 19 January 2015 00:49)

Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...

Hi

pre 9 godina

"Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...
(icj1, 19 January 2015 15:17)"

Actually the churches and monasteries burned in 2004 were rebuilt with funds from the Kosovo budget. So, in fact, the Kosovo government did pay for the rebuilding of those places.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:23)
*Joe, whad do you think you have in common with Balto-Slavic ??
I am not even Slavic so no. The current Slavs have just as much in common with the Balto-Slavic as the current Albanians with the old ones. Or the modern Greek with the old Greek. So that is why my comment of hellooo 21st century. It is just that there are some people who adhere to the 'Blud und Boden' idea of 'we being authochtonous' BS.

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:19)
Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of. But this discussion is so utterly useless since the genepole has mixed over time. Oh, and the human genome is for 97% similar to that of chimps so can you imagine how small the differences are between the various 'races'?

I see I touched an open nerve with some people.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk"

The location doesnt matter, what matters is that the Serbian state owns 65%of the stocks, it couldve been located on the north pole it still would have been property of the Serbian state.
http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
owever, in 2008, the international administration declared valid the old Trepca structure, based on which the Serbian government, through its development fund, owns a 66 percent stake in Trepca, while the rest is owned by shareholders, including employees.

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.

rickyrick

pre 9 godina

Serbia did contribute in trepca mining complex in ex yugoslavia as much as albanians croats bosnians macedonians and slovenens did .So serbian property talks in this case is getting old

Azir

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......

Kojak

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......
(Azir, 20 January 2015 02:30)

I prefer Albanian cultural and domestic habits more: Donkey see donkey do.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.
observer

and Willi Pfaff will be playing the part of Goebbels the propaganda minister.

sherlock holmes

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Only an Albanian can write this garbage. Just read the first paragraph to be convinced. To remind you that many Albanians spell themselves Albaniens. Sounds to me like angry full of venom roberto on steroids with a tell-tell moniker that he/she couldn't resist. The second paragraph is so insanely Albanian that it makes me laugh.
Check this out:
". After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard."

Only "the most bizzare and sick" minds can have the need to write this garbage and then sign it with some other
nations names. So typical of Albanians that visit this forum.
The best clue is the fact that no German in his or her right mind would sit around and waste time on a computer making nonsense up unless it were their payed job.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)

Of course the serbian state has a say since it owns the mine, it couldve been located on Mars that doesnt change the matter.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Justice is the key word here.
(azir, 17 January 2015 21:24)

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Yes the superiority of the Serbian Army over unarmed women and children was well demonstrated when they surrounded the family compound and destroyed it with tank fire. You can walk the ground still today and see the destruction and view the graves of the women and children. By the way, they did it while he wasn't there just so there's no mistake on your part that he was using them as some sort of shield.
(Still Wrong, 18 January 2015 11:43)

Wrong again, he was there righ there and right then.
Beginning in 1991, Jashari participated in attacks against the Serbian police before travelling to Albania to receive military training. Arrested in 1993, he was released at the behest of the Albanian Army and later returned to Kosovo, where he continued launching attacks against the Serbian establishment. In July 1997, he was convicted of terrorism in absentia by a Yugoslav court. After several unsuccessful attempts to capture or kill him, Serbian forces launched an attack against Jashari's home in Prekaz in March 1998. The battle that followed resulted in the deaths of 58 members of Jashari's family, including that of Jashari and his wife and son.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2? "

You are the one that is a twisted, deluded and lying barbarian that comes to a serbian site to spew propaganda, lies and hatred. Tell me how can a country be an agressor in its own territory? Do you even know what the term aggressor means? Apparently not and yes Germany paid billions of dollars to compensate for its crimes and was ruled by foreign nations for many may years but Germany was a conqueror and not a country that fought vs terrorists in a civil war like we serbs did.

If you want us to pay for alledged "crimes" then you should pay for every single chuch you burned, every single monestery, every single graveyard, every single company that you stole from the state and last but most important for the thousands of serbs that you slaughtered and for the hundreds of thousands that you ethnically cleansed.

And if you have the courage give me your mail so we can arrange a meeting.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)"

And when you have a contract where it says that you are the owner of something that means that YOU ARE THE OWNER. And we didnt loose anything.

http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
Trepca General Manager Jovan Dimkic underlined that the issue of the legal status of public enterprises, primarily that mining complex in the north, should be put on the agenda of the Brussels talks. He voiced expectation that would happen soon given that the Serbian government had strongly insisted several times on addressing the issue of public property in the province, including the legal status of enterprises. “From the very beginning, our stand has been that only the one who is a real owner of the Trepca mining complex (the state of Serbia) can talk with everyone, including the so-called Kosovo government,” Dimkic said.

Read More at inserbia.info/today/2013/10/new-projects-to-help-recovery-of-trepca-mining-complex-in-kosovo/ © InSerbia News
According to UNMIK, the Trepca Kosovo Mine is 66 percent owned by the Serbian Development Fund, 27 percent is publicly owned, 2.5 percent is owned by Jugbanka. 2.5 percent by the Belgrade Bank, and 2 percent by the EPS.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.
(simple as that, 17 January 2015 14:37)

And what about the serbian companies that the albanians privatized, the churches and monesterys that they burned, the desecrated graveyards and ethnical cleansing of 200 000 serbs, murders of more than 2000 serb civilians, who will pay for that?

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The PAK is preparing a plan for reorganization of Trepca based on which it intends to announce an international tender for the privatization of the mining complex.

That's going to fail. No international company is going to buy something from an agency that doesn't have the right to sell Trepca. Also with 33% of Trepca located in Northern Kosovo-Metohija, where Pristina does not and will not be able to control. What foreign investor would want in on that mess? Unless it's Madeline Albright or Wesley Clark or some other company of a criminal background, you wont find a partner.

What's wrong? You've ran out of money to fund this nonsense and are looking for more. Over 4 decades of receiving 23% of the Yugoslavian budget in give-aways was too little? The EUR 1.2 billion of Serbian property that has been privatized was not enough? The billions in Western donations since the end of the war? You need more handouts, but have you asked your own institutions where all that money has actually went?

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.

azir

pre 9 godina

Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants.

There is no way 2/3 percent foreign Slav Serb settlers going to have control over 30% of our natural resources.

Serbs committed Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity therefore what ever percentage allowed it must be seized to compensated for numerous Crimes in Kosova.
Serb Criminals must never be rewarded for their crimes.

sj

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Are you insane? Where in the Brussels Agreement does it say Serbia has to relinquish its property and assets in Kosovo-Metohija? How does Pristina expect to take over a mine in a part of Kosovo-Metohija they do not possess the physical strength to control?

Tell your Talibanian organ traffickers that the time for handouts and stealing from other people is over. Maybe you should tell them it's time to get to work and to stop trying to look for more ways to take something that isn't theirs. If they put so much effort into an honest days work as they do trying to steal from others, Kosovo-Metohija would be Switzerland today.

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia-Belgrade is the Universal War Crimes Capital.

There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes.

Only mushroom clouds will cure this unprecedented evilness.
Jasenovic was a failed attempt to civilized this evil.

International Community must bring Serbia to JUSTICE in order to promote peace and stabilty and most important reconciliation.

EU must not repeat the same mistKes it made with Greece now with their partners in crime Infamous Serbs.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(azir, 16 January 2015 11:51)
"Trepca Mines belong to the natural ,native, indigenous authentic Kosovar historic inhabitants."
You forgot the word 'original'.

So if that is all true then how do you explain the next animation:
http://www.businessinsider.com/map-how-indo-european-languages-evolved-2014-12

This is a new theory that claims that European language originated from Anatolia.
Here more info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/science/indo-european-languages-originated-in-anatolia-analysis-suggests.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/24/science/0824-origins.html?ref=science

If you look at the animation then Balto-Slavic started around 5000 BC and Albanian around 3000BC, a 2000 year difference. So Slavs earlier in the region then Albanians? While Albanian is older than Serbian-Croation, the latter evolved from Balto-Slavic. And according to this theory Balto-Slavic is older than Albanian.
But does it really matter who came first? Hellooo, 21st century.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

They are not war criminals, they have defended their country honourably against the real war criminals. I believe you've got it the other way around boy.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"There in the infamous land of Evil fugitives from Justice you can find the World's largest concentration of murderers,rapists,arsonists, and other Serb criminals safely protected by the current and past regimes. "
(azir, 16 January 2015 12:56)

Sound more like Kosovo to me, a mafia state under a regime lead by former terrorists and mafia bosses which became a safe haven for all kind of criminals, where they the police protects and enables their 'business' providing Europe's main hub for drug distributions.

ivan

pre 9 godina

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.
(observer, 16 January 2015 14:42)

At least he's Serbian and is entitled to express his dissatisfaction amongst his countrymen. Remember this is a Serbian forum, so if you don't like what is being said, then go to an Albanian one. No one has asked for your two cents nor does anyone care for your opinions.

Robert O

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.
(Ian, UK, 16 January 2015 15:49)

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Let me guess. More pressure to write anything anti-Serb from your Albanian partners.
Let me guess again. The two of you are the submissive ones in your relationships like the German spy
that got busted in Kosovo sharing secret information with his handsome Albanian partner.

P.S. The name or moniker Willi Pfaff is so apropos that it still kills me when I read it.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I guess Wesley Clark as representative of an international mining company is getting impatient and wants to be rewarded for services rendered.

observer

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff said recently - nothing good ever came from serbia.

He is a hater who promotes discord.

Willi Pfaff is a hypocrite.
(Roger7, 16 January 2015 13:23)

Strange how you repeat this same line here almost on a daily basis. It gets old, just like the other old mantras serb nationalists come up with day in and out. I actually think that you spread hate and discord here not just since yesterday, but since you came to this website.

Nikolla

pre 9 godina

*Yawn*

These articles are so boring and so 90s.

Also the phrase "since the ethnic Albanians in the southern Serbian province unilaterally proclaimed independence in 2008. " is terribly overused. Get a new one. It's outdated.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 21:37)

Willi Pfaff has a very elaborate (albeit disturbing) imagination. In a past life, Willi could have been a Hollywood scriptwriter and made millions. But sadly, he is just in the twilight of his life trying to make Hitler and Dr. Mengele proud by spreading Nazism and hatred on social media. He hasn't achieved much in life, but can afford a keyboard and an internet connection, so he has something to keep him preoccupied until his passing.

P.s Willi, Serbia never lost the war in Kosovo-Metohija. Sure as hell not against the Albanians. Adem Jashiri led the KLA when Serbian hospitals and schools were not being bombarded by NATO planes, and we saw what happened with that terrorist. The KLA could not even have its way with the Serbs in Northern Kosovo-Metohija because they already tried in 2011.

Serbia not only has the legal basis as far as Trepca is concerned, but the portion of Trepca that is in the Northern, free part of Kosovo-Metohija will never be under Pristina control because Pristina does not possess the physical strength to subdue this area.

But leave it to the kosovaris to work over-time at trying to steal something that isn't theirs just so they don't have to work an honest, actual job. Must be all that money from the West is drying up and drying up fast.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Surely the take over of the mine is in line with "more than autonomy, less than independence" and "99% independence" which Serbia supposedly wants for Kosovo, so what is the problem? Serbia will come up with any excuse to not implement the Brussels Agreement.

Not Really

pre 9 godina

Fact is, no other european country currently houses more war criminals than Serbia. Come to terms with it, and than you might be taken a bit more seriously.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 12:05)

There's still hundreds of thousands of nazi war criminials living out a comfortable life in Germany on a big fat pension. Throw in Austria's contribution and not even a pretend de-nazification like Germany and as usual, Pfaff Willi's facts are substantially wrong.

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

another thing should not be forgotten when it comes to the Trepca mines: When it was clear that Serbia was going to loose the war in Kosovo and prepared for its retreat, they started digging out the massgraves they had created in Kosovo, and some of the bodies were simply depost of by burning the bodies at the Trepca smeltering ovens and than the remains / ashes were dumped in the mine shafts. Another sick war crime Serbia copied from the Nazis and never payed for. Whatever they couldn't burn was than transported into Serbia in put into other massgraves there or dumped in the Danube river, or lakes nearby. As everybody knows some of the mass graves inside Serbia were found in the meantime and the dead bodies identified as Kosovaars. The remains of part of the still missing Kosovo Albanies (about 1700) are in those Trepca mine shafts, and it is just more than disgusting that Serbia brings up this subject now. That gang of politicans running Serbia nowadays has not learned anything and has no moral scrupels whatsoever.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)
=====================================
There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk"

The location doesnt matter, what matters is that the Serbian state owns 65%of the stocks, it couldve been located on the north pole it still would have been property of the Serbian state.
http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
owever, in 2008, the international administration declared valid the old Trepca structure, based on which the Serbian government, through its development fund, owns a 66 percent stake in Trepca, while the rest is owned by shareholders, including employees.

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff has no first hand knowledge and yet he portrays himself as some sort of expert.

He doesn't have an original thought just roberto's pathetic minion - regurgatating little roberto's propoganda with the same old buzz words hoping to get attention and a false sense of importance. Pathetic.

The ICTY released the findings of Western forensic teams investigating Trepca. Not a single body was found in the mine shafts, nor was there any evidence there had ever been an attempt to dissolve human remains.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.
(simple as that, 17 January 2015 14:37)

And what about the serbian companies that the albanians privatized, the churches and monesterys that they burned, the desecrated graveyards and ethnical cleansing of 200 000 serbs, murders of more than 2000 serb civilians, who will pay for that?

DD

pre 9 godina

The problem is, everything that has been built in Kosovo in the last 50 years was built by the Serbs. Starting from roads, airport, mines ... My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Yes the superiority of the Serbian Army over unarmed women and children was well demonstrated when they surrounded the family compound and destroyed it with tank fire. You can walk the ground still today and see the destruction and view the graves of the women and children. By the way, they did it while he wasn't there just so there's no mistake on your part that he was using them as some sort of shield.
(Still Wrong, 18 January 2015 11:43)

Wrong again, he was there righ there and right then.
Beginning in 1991, Jashari participated in attacks against the Serbian police before travelling to Albania to receive military training. Arrested in 1993, he was released at the behest of the Albanian Army and later returned to Kosovo, where he continued launching attacks against the Serbian establishment. In July 1997, he was convicted of terrorism in absentia by a Yugoslav court. After several unsuccessful attempts to capture or kill him, Serbian forces launched an attack against Jashari's home in Prekaz in March 1998. The battle that followed resulted in the deaths of 58 members of Jashari's family, including that of Jashari and his wife and son.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)

Daniel,
Sorry to disillusion you, but the mines are in Kosova and belong to the Republic of Kosova. If you have a problem with that then try and take them, at your on risk. You know very well Serbia is in no position to do so. Your wings were clipped once and forever. You seem to have the attitude that everything Serbia controlled before the war in 1999 still belongs to Serbia. Sorry my friend but, to the victor go the spoils.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2? "

You are the one that is a twisted, deluded and lying barbarian that comes to a serbian site to spew propaganda, lies and hatred. Tell me how can a country be an agressor in its own territory? Do you even know what the term aggressor means? Apparently not and yes Germany paid billions of dollars to compensate for its crimes and was ruled by foreign nations for many may years but Germany was a conqueror and not a country that fought vs terrorists in a civil war like we serbs did.

If you want us to pay for alledged "crimes" then you should pay for every single chuch you burned, every single monestery, every single graveyard, every single company that you stole from the state and last but most important for the thousands of serbs that you slaughtered and for the hundreds of thousands that you ethnically cleansed.

And if you have the courage give me your mail so we can arrange a meeting.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(delon, 16 January 2015 20:20)
I say in another comment that Serbian-Croatian is younger than Albanian but according to the theory, Balto-Slavic predates Albanian so Slavs were earlier in the region than Albananians. And Serbs after all are Slavs and Serbian is a Slavic language derived from Balto-Slavic. So according to the autochtonous theory of what-his-name and many Albanians including the PM, Slavs are more autochtonous than Albanians.

All this talk is BS to me.
Regarding your question how it should be settled: the mine belongs to the ones who have current ownership papers and their shareholders. Nationalization is daylight robbery. If you think that the Albanian people in Kosovo would profit, then you are wrong. Profits will go to the ones who would buy the mine and the price of the sale would end up in the pockets of the mafia in Pristina.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Shocking!!! These serbs never cease to amaze me .Trepca mine is located inside R.o.K. and you have absolutely no say in this
(rickyrick, 17 January 2015 11:42)

Of course the serbian state has a say since it owns the mine, it couldve been located on Mars that doesnt change the matter.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:23)
*Joe, whad do you think you have in common with Balto-Slavic ??
I am not even Slavic so no. The current Slavs have just as much in common with the Balto-Slavic as the current Albanians with the old ones. Or the modern Greek with the old Greek. So that is why my comment of hellooo 21st century. It is just that there are some people who adhere to the 'Blud und Boden' idea of 'we being authochtonous' BS.

(Bardhi, 16 January 2015 15:19)
Joe: "Does it matter who came first?"

It is only the serbs that portray the albanians as newcommers from Albania Caucasus, Turkey or other stupid iqfree gueses. But facts tell us that the albanians have been in these areas for thousands of years, and there are evidence that there where 2 major group of people that invaded the Balkans; The Serbs and Croats. THese people came from far Russia somewhere, and they settled in the Balkans.

Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of. But this discussion is so utterly useless since the genepole has mixed over time. Oh, and the human genome is for 97% similar to that of chimps so can you imagine how small the differences are between the various 'races'?

I see I touched an open nerve with some people.

azir

pre 9 godina

After all these years of 'Kosovo is the cradle of Serbdom'
finally the truth is told that all that prapaganda,all that agression and colonization
for the almighty dollar (dinar in this case).

Money from the exploitation of indigenous Kosovar' natural resources led Serbs to act and behave in this greedy and selfish manner.

Criminals must never benefit from their crimes and Serbs must pay for what they did and continue to do.

Justice is the key word here.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Justice is the key word here.
(azir, 17 January 2015 21:24)

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.

sherlock holmes

pre 9 godina

Who cares if the serb drama queen Vucic has sleepless nights ..., he should have. He wanted to kill 1000 Kosovo Albaniens for every Serb. I hope THAT gives him sleepless nights.

Besides that, those figures in your article are simply sick. After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard. If anybody owes anything here it is Serbia owing Kosova for the crimes it committed there.
(Willi Pfaff, 16 January 2015 11:15)

Only an Albanian can write this garbage. Just read the first paragraph to be convinced. To remind you that many Albanians spell themselves Albaniens. Sounds to me like angry full of venom roberto on steroids with a tell-tell moniker that he/she couldn't resist. The second paragraph is so insanely Albanian that it makes me laugh.
Check this out:
". After all the killings, rapes, mass murders, looting and inhuman behaviour conducted by serb fascist criminals, Serbia wants money from Kosovo. That is one of the most bizarre and sick things I have ever heard."

Only "the most bizzare and sick" minds can have the need to write this garbage and then sign it with some other
nations names. So typical of Albanians that visit this forum.
The best clue is the fact that no German in his or her right mind would sit around and waste time on a computer making nonsense up unless it were their payed job.

simple as that

pre 9 godina

Serbia wants money from Kosovo. "
Of course, the mine belongs to the Serbian state. Its serbian state property, if you want to have it then pay up the asking prize if they are willing to sell. Simple as that.
(Daniel, 16 January 2015 16:42)
Maybe the perfect solution is that Serbia deduct 5% of what reparations they should pay to the Albanians for the loss of property life and health that they caused and then quietly allow for Kosovo to continue on with the mines and their sale or whatever they decide to do with them.

Loda

pre 9 godina

Oh i forgot Kosovo is "not" independent, but Serbia now is the one that
wants talks in Brussels. Makes sense how Kosovo belongs to Serbia.
This is the reality my serbian friends. Wake up!!

azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel how much compensation does Serbia owe Croatia,Bosnia and Kosova for Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity etc......

The countrys natural resources belong ti its people and Serbs are foreineets on our Kosova.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

Why do I always have to correctly edit these articles?

"Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue."

It should really read:

Aleksandar Vucic says a unilateral decision of the Kosovo government to take over Trepca "would deal a heavy blow to Belgrade and all of Serbias dreams."

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.
observer

and Willi Pfaff will be playing the part of Goebbels the propaganda minister.

Kojak

pre 9 godina

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.
(Azir, 19 January 2015 01:31)

And your cure is a Greek enema.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)"

And when you have a contract where it says that you are the owner of something that means that YOU ARE THE OWNER. And we didnt loose anything.

http://www.iacenter.org/folder04/kosovo_mines.htm
Trepca General Manager Jovan Dimkic underlined that the issue of the legal status of public enterprises, primarily that mining complex in the north, should be put on the agenda of the Brussels talks. He voiced expectation that would happen soon given that the Serbian government had strongly insisted several times on addressing the issue of public property in the province, including the legal status of enterprises. “From the very beginning, our stand has been that only the one who is a real owner of the Trepca mining complex (the state of Serbia) can talk with everyone, including the so-called Kosovo government,” Dimkic said.

Read More at inserbia.info/today/2013/10/new-projects-to-help-recovery-of-trepca-mining-complex-in-kosovo/ © InSerbia News
According to UNMIK, the Trepca Kosovo Mine is 66 percent owned by the Serbian Development Fund, 27 percent is publicly owned, 2.5 percent is owned by Jugbanka. 2.5 percent by the Belgrade Bank, and 2 percent by the EPS.

the truth

pre 9 godina

It’s obvious now just like the nose on your face that Brussels is making deeper cut backs in aid to Kosovo and to make the shortfall Pristina now wants to sell something it does not own. Mind you its not to the benefit of the locals, its only to fill Thaci’s eta al pockets.
Trepca needs a very large amount of investment in modern mining equipment and you can be assured that no corporation in their right mind will buy then outlay millions when the ownership is in dispute. It’s a dead duck.
(sj, 16 January 2015 12:02)

There is no dispute here, since Trepqa is on Kosova land. Forget the idea of being Serbian state own mine. This just shows very clearly that ; Kosova is not the cradle of Serbia as claimed till now, but is all about the mineral wealth that Kosova has, and always has been the case.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Some people say Serbia still says Kosovo is a part of serbia so if this was true all Serbia would do is send police and troops to the mines and take them over!

Wrong Peggy

pre 9 godina

"There is no R O K. It's Serbia so Serbia has every say in it. One day all these private companies (Miss Albright and Co.) will have to compensate Serbia for illegal activities there.
(Peggy, 18 January 2015 23:00) "

Doubtful as most of the Socially Owned Enterprises (SOEs) were privatized under the auspices of the Kosovo Trust Agency which was created and managed by UNMIK. The KTA was later replaced by the Kosovo Privatization Agency. While individual sales are certainly liable to litigation, especially when it comes to the distribution of revenue from the sales or technical issues with the sale of an individual enterprise, the legality of the process is pretty well established.

Not quite as you say

pre 9 godina

My father was giving 5% of his salary every month to support poor people in Kosovo because they were poor, everyone in Serbia was doing that in the 80s. You can have it all now, take everything, but keep in mind that all you have now is because Serbs built it for you, if it wasn't for the Serbs Kosovo would be like Albania, undeveloped and without infrastructure.
(DD, 18 January 2015 23:46)
We hear how Serbia did everything for Kosovo, of course out of that 5% he paid, Serbia did not build a road, an airport a hospital, a factory in Serbia did they? Now in this story we hear how valuable these mines were and how much money was generated from them that ALL went to Serbia, so it seems that in reality it was the people of Kosovo that provided the money for everything built in Serbia instead of the other way around. If the money from the mines were spent in Kosovo as should be then it would be far more advanced than Belgrade ever dreamed of.
Maybe its time to retell the story with the truth.

Kojak

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......
(Azir, 20 January 2015 02:30)

I prefer Albanian cultural and domestic habits more: Donkey see donkey do.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 16 January 2015 20:01)

No, I'm not insane. It says nothing about it in the Brussels Agreement and I never said it did.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@ (observer, 18 January 2015 17:42)

Dear Observer, we would like to inform you that we decided not to give the leading role in my upcoming movie, 'Ari, the Hitler youth member' to Mr. Gold. It actually was amazing what he showed during the casting. He didn’t even have to act, and was able to blossom in the this role without any problem. I guess the reason for it is that his life mirrors the true life of our poor and despicable leading character. The reason we didn’t give him the role is that we think we need a more attractive and sexier looking person for that role.

Because of his unquestionable qualifications we decided to cast him for the leading role in our sequel: ‘Ari's Fascist Horror Picture Show’. It plays in Kosovo, and Mr Gold is already looking forward to perform in it. He said, and I quote: ‘ This movie finally gives me the chance to outlive all my fantasies, and therefore I think I am the most qualified person to play the role of Ari’. We promise you that this move will come as close as possible to reality, and will show you things you never saw before in your life. Be prepared for 2 hours of previously unseen scenes which will chill you to the bone. We are sorry that it will have a NC-17 rating, because we think everybody should see it in order to help preventing this type of tragedy from ever happening again.

Hi

pre 9 godina

"Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...
(icj1, 19 January 2015 15:17)"

Actually the churches and monasteries burned in 2004 were rebuilt with funds from the Kosovo budget. So, in fact, the Kosovo government did pay for the rebuilding of those places.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Kojak it is Serbia your prefered historic partner that needs and awaits your enema since you share religious ,cultural and domestic habits ......

Bardhi

pre 9 godina

Joe:

"Well, not according to the theory I mention that claims to have linguistic evidence that Balto-Slavic was in the region before Albanian. And some Albanians claim just what you accuse the Serbs of."

According to that theory Albanian evolved from Balto-Slavic, which I have hard to believe but let us say so. That means that pre Albanian is Balto-Slavic, which gives todays Albanians the equal right to these areas as the BALTO-SLAVIC people, and not the newcomers serbs! The correlation between todays Albanian and the “old” Albanian is far bigger than serbian and Balto-Slavic. Hell even todays slavic languages are so different to eachother that they cannot undestand one another.

When Illyria aka the Balkan got invaded by the beginning of the first millennium, the Vatican state in Italy was at that time the Encyclopedia and gathered all information. They have no files at all saying that the Albanians came to the Balkans, but they do for Serbs and Croats. So either are they lying and have done some "provokacija" to the serbs or are the serbs as usual lying?

And no, this is not an open nerve at all, but I cannot understand that so many serbs - not only uneducated but also educated and more civilized than the average serb - are so brainwashed and allergic to the truth about the origin of Albanians.

Peace!

observer

pre 9 godina

Rumor has it that Ari Gold will be playing the leading role in Willi Pfaff's new highly appraised upcoming movie 'Ari, the Hitler youth member - or how a promising life was destroyed by facism.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Daniel if one was to use your demented and twisted "logic" then what are the Germans owed for after world war 2?
Aggressors that initiated wars and lose means no sympathy,no compensation or anything.When you lose that actually means what it says YOU LOSE. :)
There were Germans that were ethnicly cleansed from Serbia.
I am not supporting those Germans just using them as an example to show how ridiculious your claims are and of other shameless serbs.

Serbia must compensate all victims of Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.
The Hague and International Court of Justice is your CURE.

rickyrick

pre 9 godina

Serbia did contribute in trepca mining complex in ex yugoslavia as much as albanians croats bosnians macedonians and slovenens did .So serbian property talks in this case is getting old

delon

pre 9 godina

@ JOE A,
the 3rd link that you brought ,which is also from same author,if you se the language tree graphic ,Albanian language starts more then 5000 years ago and Serbian language is les then 1000 years.
These are theories , after all.
Hard evidences ,original writings,tells us that Slavs came to our region on 7th century.

My question to you is this, what do you suggest to resolve the dispute between Albanians and Serbs regarding Kosova ?
Should we follow historic facts who was here first ,who control it today, or who is more stronger ?

icj1

pre 9 godina

Justice would be if you were to pay back all the money that the serbs have paid the last 50 years to develop everything in kosovo. If it wasnt for those money that every serbian citizen paid off their salaries you would still live like in the stoneage.
(Daniel, 19 January 2015 00:49)

Sure, start listing the invoices so you can get paid...

icj1

pre 9 godina

Good luck with trying to take it, see you in court.
(Daniel, 17 January 2015 02:14)

Exactly, so all this talk about violence, heavy blow to negotiatiosn and bla bla bla is rubbish. If anybody has any complaints, see you in court and you wisely suggested.