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Thursday, 08.01.2015.

10:07

Dacic: Pristina does not know what it wants

Ivica Dacic has said Hashim Thaci's statement shows that Pristina "does not know what it wants - dialogue or blind acceptance of what they want."

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Azir

pre 9 godina

Lirim infamous Serbia knows exactly what it wants and that is Trepca Mines in Kosova with the 3 percent serb Colonizers but without the majority indigenous Kosovar native population.

boom

pre 9 godina

The only sense I can make of this is that our politicians have smarten up and are creating a situation to try and extract some money or concessions or to be fast tracked into the EU. If so, then it is a fair game in politics.
If Daci really believes that we can get Kosovo back, then I would like to smoke the same thing he is. He is not fooling anyone.
Only war and the extermination or deportation of 90% of Kosovo population can achieve such objectives. Or maybe if we were a rich country then the Kosovars would see some genuine economic interests and benefits, but we are just as poor as they are and we hate them, so no chance of living together ever.
On the other hand, I see no chance of Kosovo joining Albania ever as although they are Albanians, they don't seem to like much each other. Albania being a more secular society whereas Kosovars are more religious, the language is not very intelligible to most south Albanians, their mentality and lifestyles are not very similar. There are way more similarities between us and the Croatians then between Kosovars and Albanians. If we can’t live in a single state with the Croatians, why would Kosovars live with the Albanians in a single state? Those are political projects and as such it won’t happen because there will be 50% less politician jobs all of the sudden. What politician will vote to lose his job? Unless some uniting political figure is born, but that is a very long shot imho.

Lirim

pre 9 godina

Many Serbians hate Albanians and vice versa and Belgrade still wants to keep Albanian land. I really don't understand their agenda. Also, Kosovo is Europe's most poorest country, so why does Belgrade want a poor country? Belgrade is better off just accepting the independence of Kosovo and stop wasting their time on a small country that probably doesn't give Serbia any economic strength or any strength in any important areas. Well, all I can say is good luck to Belgrade.

matter of choice

pre 9 godina

I think he meant Belgrade does not know what it wants. One morning it is the EU is saying Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join the EU, by afternoon it is saying the EU is not saying that but it says Serbia must sign agreements of "neighborly relations" by supper time it is Serbia will never give up on Kosovo and then by bedtime it is we will not give up on our EU path.
Regardless of the time of day, if there is anyone who thinks that Serbia is going to join the EU and have Kosovo, you have my sympathies and I hope that the person who feeds you your meals is kind.
It is simple EU with a NEIGHBORLY relationship with Kosovo, or no EU and no Kosovo.
For those of you that say to abandon the EU path if that is the case then I support you, but apparently the people who matter do not feel the same.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 January 2015 16:08)

Yes, the international community wanted to keep their illusion of their 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' alive. They are not willing to realize that this didn't work, doesn't work, and won't work, that Kosovo is based on ethnic hate, from both sides.

A partition along Ibar (i.e. along ethnic lines), with the north staying within Serbia and the south joining Albania, would have been the far better option, on the long run, instead of pumping billions and billions into the corrupt stillborn called Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

And neither does Belgrade on occasion.

Between rhetorical statements of "Kosovo is Serbia", there has been an obvious effort to partition Kosovo at the Ibar from as early as 2000, which means that left to their own devices, Belgrade would have abandoned everyone south of it for the sake of retaining the north. If it wasn't, ironically, for Ahtisaari empowering Serb municipalities (existing and newly created), there wouldn't be any Serb presence in large parts of Kosovo. It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan.

As for Thaci, I don't worry about his occasional off-cue musings to the lesser intelligent members of his constituency. He's been thoroughly housebroken and trained to do whatever the US and the EU wants, and is single-handedly the one person who ironically empowered Kosovo Serb communities by doing absolutely nothing to follow up on threats and boasts that are little more than rhetorical.

If he needs to blow off steam on his Facebook page, let him do it. I'm sure he's gotten enough ridicule from Albanians who've had enough of him and see him as little more than a sock puppet for the international community. As much as I think the guy's a war criminal, he's done a lot to appease his would-be accusers and disappointed a lot of his former wartime comrades.

The things he'll agree to to avoid the gibbet :)

Simpatiku

pre 9 godina

This statement of Dacic is not worth any comment. However when I read that some are sweating over it I decided to write here my opinion as well.
Nikolic's so-called plan and this Dacic's statement are intended for internal public consumption in Serbia. It is not hard to guess why, when contrary to milk and honey promises of Nikolic and Vucic to Serbs, he started to cut pensions due to terrible economic situation in Serbia.
Nikolic, Dacic and Vucic know very well that there is not going to be any negotiations for the status of Kosovo as it is done deal for 90% of EU members and 110 countries of the world.

Demi

pre 9 godina

Albanians in Serbian historic land must understand they will never be a real country, Serbia will never ever let it go.
(Nkeca, 8 January 2015 11:28)


You cant let go of somthing that you dont have and is not yours. In your mind you dont need to let go. In reality we take it anyway!

I wont let go of Cameron Diaz in my mind also. But in reality she is getting married.. Poor poor me..

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir THE COWARD: "Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?"

Interesting comment coming from someone who openly praises "the final solution" put forth by Hitler's puppet Croatian Ustasha regime when they attempted to exterminate the Serbs.

Just when I think you've reached the height of hypocrisy azir, you post something even more foolish and contradictory. Even the Albanians on this site laugh at your ridiculous comments. What will the COWARD come up with next to amuse us all?

Questioner

pre 9 godina

What comes next? Russia complaining about Ukraine being 'expansionist' because they don't accept the annexation of the territory of Crimea by Russia?

azir

pre 9 godina

Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?

The West's mantra of "Never Again" also applies to Kosova.

We don't need Serbia telling us what we do or don't need.
Belgrade please speak for yourself you have nothing to do with us.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Dacic, please stop being a kid-like hypocrite! You know very well, that the current negotiations being conducted between Serbia & Kosova are negotiations between 2 I say again, between 2 countries! Unless Serbia acknowledges this key fact and reality, then these negotiations are in fact being violated and not being taken seriously by Serbia! Enough with the games Serbia, you will never see the day when Serbia shall project or display sovereignty or power of any type over the Republic of Kosova again! You must realize this Dacic, and you should forward this message to your people that are of the same mindset as you, that 110 democratic countries of the world have guaranteed Kosova's independence & sovereignty!
Any talk by Serbia about a final solution that is short of Adolf Hitlers final solution shall only prove to disappoint a radical Serbia badly! But go ahead and keep making a fool of yourselves!!!

Demi

pre 9 godina

Albanians in Serbian historic land must understand they will never be a real country, Serbia will never ever let it go.
(Nkeca, 8 January 2015 11:28)


You cant let go of somthing that you dont have and is not yours. In your mind you dont need to let go. In reality we take it anyway!

I wont let go of Cameron Diaz in my mind also. But in reality she is getting married.. Poor poor me..

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Dacic, please stop being a kid-like hypocrite! You know very well, that the current negotiations being conducted between Serbia & Kosova are negotiations between 2 I say again, between 2 countries! Unless Serbia acknowledges this key fact and reality, then these negotiations are in fact being violated and not being taken seriously by Serbia! Enough with the games Serbia, you will never see the day when Serbia shall project or display sovereignty or power of any type over the Republic of Kosova again! You must realize this Dacic, and you should forward this message to your people that are of the same mindset as you, that 110 democratic countries of the world have guaranteed Kosova's independence & sovereignty!
Any talk by Serbia about a final solution that is short of Adolf Hitlers final solution shall only prove to disappoint a radical Serbia badly! But go ahead and keep making a fool of yourselves!!!

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir THE COWARD: "Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?"

Interesting comment coming from someone who openly praises "the final solution" put forth by Hitler's puppet Croatian Ustasha regime when they attempted to exterminate the Serbs.

Just when I think you've reached the height of hypocrisy azir, you post something even more foolish and contradictory. Even the Albanians on this site laugh at your ridiculous comments. What will the COWARD come up with next to amuse us all?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

And neither does Belgrade on occasion.

Between rhetorical statements of "Kosovo is Serbia", there has been an obvious effort to partition Kosovo at the Ibar from as early as 2000, which means that left to their own devices, Belgrade would have abandoned everyone south of it for the sake of retaining the north. If it wasn't, ironically, for Ahtisaari empowering Serb municipalities (existing and newly created), there wouldn't be any Serb presence in large parts of Kosovo. It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan.

As for Thaci, I don't worry about his occasional off-cue musings to the lesser intelligent members of his constituency. He's been thoroughly housebroken and trained to do whatever the US and the EU wants, and is single-handedly the one person who ironically empowered Kosovo Serb communities by doing absolutely nothing to follow up on threats and boasts that are little more than rhetorical.

If he needs to blow off steam on his Facebook page, let him do it. I'm sure he's gotten enough ridicule from Albanians who've had enough of him and see him as little more than a sock puppet for the international community. As much as I think the guy's a war criminal, he's done a lot to appease his would-be accusers and disappointed a lot of his former wartime comrades.

The things he'll agree to to avoid the gibbet :)

azir

pre 9 godina

Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?

The West's mantra of "Never Again" also applies to Kosova.

We don't need Serbia telling us what we do or don't need.
Belgrade please speak for yourself you have nothing to do with us.

Simpatiku

pre 9 godina

This statement of Dacic is not worth any comment. However when I read that some are sweating over it I decided to write here my opinion as well.
Nikolic's so-called plan and this Dacic's statement are intended for internal public consumption in Serbia. It is not hard to guess why, when contrary to milk and honey promises of Nikolic and Vucic to Serbs, he started to cut pensions due to terrible economic situation in Serbia.
Nikolic, Dacic and Vucic know very well that there is not going to be any negotiations for the status of Kosovo as it is done deal for 90% of EU members and 110 countries of the world.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

What comes next? Russia complaining about Ukraine being 'expansionist' because they don't accept the annexation of the territory of Crimea by Russia?

matter of choice

pre 9 godina

I think he meant Belgrade does not know what it wants. One morning it is the EU is saying Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join the EU, by afternoon it is saying the EU is not saying that but it says Serbia must sign agreements of "neighborly relations" by supper time it is Serbia will never give up on Kosovo and then by bedtime it is we will not give up on our EU path.
Regardless of the time of day, if there is anyone who thinks that Serbia is going to join the EU and have Kosovo, you have my sympathies and I hope that the person who feeds you your meals is kind.
It is simple EU with a NEIGHBORLY relationship with Kosovo, or no EU and no Kosovo.
For those of you that say to abandon the EU path if that is the case then I support you, but apparently the people who matter do not feel the same.

Lirim

pre 9 godina

Many Serbians hate Albanians and vice versa and Belgrade still wants to keep Albanian land. I really don't understand their agenda. Also, Kosovo is Europe's most poorest country, so why does Belgrade want a poor country? Belgrade is better off just accepting the independence of Kosovo and stop wasting their time on a small country that probably doesn't give Serbia any economic strength or any strength in any important areas. Well, all I can say is good luck to Belgrade.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 January 2015 16:08)

Yes, the international community wanted to keep their illusion of their 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' alive. They are not willing to realize that this didn't work, doesn't work, and won't work, that Kosovo is based on ethnic hate, from both sides.

A partition along Ibar (i.e. along ethnic lines), with the north staying within Serbia and the south joining Albania, would have been the far better option, on the long run, instead of pumping billions and billions into the corrupt stillborn called Kosovo.

boom

pre 9 godina

The only sense I can make of this is that our politicians have smarten up and are creating a situation to try and extract some money or concessions or to be fast tracked into the EU. If so, then it is a fair game in politics.
If Daci really believes that we can get Kosovo back, then I would like to smoke the same thing he is. He is not fooling anyone.
Only war and the extermination or deportation of 90% of Kosovo population can achieve such objectives. Or maybe if we were a rich country then the Kosovars would see some genuine economic interests and benefits, but we are just as poor as they are and we hate them, so no chance of living together ever.
On the other hand, I see no chance of Kosovo joining Albania ever as although they are Albanians, they don't seem to like much each other. Albania being a more secular society whereas Kosovars are more religious, the language is not very intelligible to most south Albanians, their mentality and lifestyles are not very similar. There are way more similarities between us and the Croatians then between Kosovars and Albanians. If we can’t live in a single state with the Croatians, why would Kosovars live with the Albanians in a single state? Those are political projects and as such it won’t happen because there will be 50% less politician jobs all of the sudden. What politician will vote to lose his job? Unless some uniting political figure is born, but that is a very long shot imho.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Lirim infamous Serbia knows exactly what it wants and that is Trepca Mines in Kosova with the 3 percent serb Colonizers but without the majority indigenous Kosovar native population.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir THE COWARD: "Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?"

Interesting comment coming from someone who openly praises "the final solution" put forth by Hitler's puppet Croatian Ustasha regime when they attempted to exterminate the Serbs.

Just when I think you've reached the height of hypocrisy azir, you post something even more foolish and contradictory. Even the Albanians on this site laugh at your ridiculous comments. What will the COWARD come up with next to amuse us all?

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Dacic, please stop being a kid-like hypocrite! You know very well, that the current negotiations being conducted between Serbia & Kosova are negotiations between 2 I say again, between 2 countries! Unless Serbia acknowledges this key fact and reality, then these negotiations are in fact being violated and not being taken seriously by Serbia! Enough with the games Serbia, you will never see the day when Serbia shall project or display sovereignty or power of any type over the Republic of Kosova again! You must realize this Dacic, and you should forward this message to your people that are of the same mindset as you, that 110 democratic countries of the world have guaranteed Kosova's independence & sovereignty!
Any talk by Serbia about a final solution that is short of Adolf Hitlers final solution shall only prove to disappoint a radical Serbia badly! But go ahead and keep making a fool of yourselves!!!

azir

pre 9 godina

Adolf Hitler during WW2 also attempted a "final solution"to the Jews just as Serbia did during 1998/99 .

When will the International Community no longer tolerate these " final soltions" which also leads to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?

The West's mantra of "Never Again" also applies to Kosova.

We don't need Serbia telling us what we do or don't need.
Belgrade please speak for yourself you have nothing to do with us.

Demi

pre 9 godina

Albanians in Serbian historic land must understand they will never be a real country, Serbia will never ever let it go.
(Nkeca, 8 January 2015 11:28)


You cant let go of somthing that you dont have and is not yours. In your mind you dont need to let go. In reality we take it anyway!

I wont let go of Cameron Diaz in my mind also. But in reality she is getting married.. Poor poor me..

Questioner

pre 9 godina

What comes next? Russia complaining about Ukraine being 'expansionist' because they don't accept the annexation of the territory of Crimea by Russia?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 January 2015 16:08)

Yes, the international community wanted to keep their illusion of their 'multi-ethnic, democratic Kosovo' alive. They are not willing to realize that this didn't work, doesn't work, and won't work, that Kosovo is based on ethnic hate, from both sides.

A partition along Ibar (i.e. along ethnic lines), with the north staying within Serbia and the south joining Albania, would have been the far better option, on the long run, instead of pumping billions and billions into the corrupt stillborn called Kosovo.

Simpatiku

pre 9 godina

This statement of Dacic is not worth any comment. However when I read that some are sweating over it I decided to write here my opinion as well.
Nikolic's so-called plan and this Dacic's statement are intended for internal public consumption in Serbia. It is not hard to guess why, when contrary to milk and honey promises of Nikolic and Vucic to Serbs, he started to cut pensions due to terrible economic situation in Serbia.
Nikolic, Dacic and Vucic know very well that there is not going to be any negotiations for the status of Kosovo as it is done deal for 90% of EU members and 110 countries of the world.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

And neither does Belgrade on occasion.

Between rhetorical statements of "Kosovo is Serbia", there has been an obvious effort to partition Kosovo at the Ibar from as early as 2000, which means that left to their own devices, Belgrade would have abandoned everyone south of it for the sake of retaining the north. If it wasn't, ironically, for Ahtisaari empowering Serb municipalities (existing and newly created), there wouldn't be any Serb presence in large parts of Kosovo. It's only this and the persistence of the international community that pressured Belgrade to abandon partition in favor of what it's now supporting through the Brussels Plan.

As for Thaci, I don't worry about his occasional off-cue musings to the lesser intelligent members of his constituency. He's been thoroughly housebroken and trained to do whatever the US and the EU wants, and is single-handedly the one person who ironically empowered Kosovo Serb communities by doing absolutely nothing to follow up on threats and boasts that are little more than rhetorical.

If he needs to blow off steam on his Facebook page, let him do it. I'm sure he's gotten enough ridicule from Albanians who've had enough of him and see him as little more than a sock puppet for the international community. As much as I think the guy's a war criminal, he's done a lot to appease his would-be accusers and disappointed a lot of his former wartime comrades.

The things he'll agree to to avoid the gibbet :)

Lirim

pre 9 godina

Many Serbians hate Albanians and vice versa and Belgrade still wants to keep Albanian land. I really don't understand their agenda. Also, Kosovo is Europe's most poorest country, so why does Belgrade want a poor country? Belgrade is better off just accepting the independence of Kosovo and stop wasting their time on a small country that probably doesn't give Serbia any economic strength or any strength in any important areas. Well, all I can say is good luck to Belgrade.

boom

pre 9 godina

The only sense I can make of this is that our politicians have smarten up and are creating a situation to try and extract some money or concessions or to be fast tracked into the EU. If so, then it is a fair game in politics.
If Daci really believes that we can get Kosovo back, then I would like to smoke the same thing he is. He is not fooling anyone.
Only war and the extermination or deportation of 90% of Kosovo population can achieve such objectives. Or maybe if we were a rich country then the Kosovars would see some genuine economic interests and benefits, but we are just as poor as they are and we hate them, so no chance of living together ever.
On the other hand, I see no chance of Kosovo joining Albania ever as although they are Albanians, they don't seem to like much each other. Albania being a more secular society whereas Kosovars are more religious, the language is not very intelligible to most south Albanians, their mentality and lifestyles are not very similar. There are way more similarities between us and the Croatians then between Kosovars and Albanians. If we can’t live in a single state with the Croatians, why would Kosovars live with the Albanians in a single state? Those are political projects and as such it won’t happen because there will be 50% less politician jobs all of the sudden. What politician will vote to lose his job? Unless some uniting political figure is born, but that is a very long shot imho.

matter of choice

pre 9 godina

I think he meant Belgrade does not know what it wants. One morning it is the EU is saying Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join the EU, by afternoon it is saying the EU is not saying that but it says Serbia must sign agreements of "neighborly relations" by supper time it is Serbia will never give up on Kosovo and then by bedtime it is we will not give up on our EU path.
Regardless of the time of day, if there is anyone who thinks that Serbia is going to join the EU and have Kosovo, you have my sympathies and I hope that the person who feeds you your meals is kind.
It is simple EU with a NEIGHBORLY relationship with Kosovo, or no EU and no Kosovo.
For those of you that say to abandon the EU path if that is the case then I support you, but apparently the people who matter do not feel the same.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Lirim infamous Serbia knows exactly what it wants and that is Trepca Mines in Kosova with the 3 percent serb Colonizers but without the majority indigenous Kosovar native population.