Turkish prosecutor seeks 18 years for killer of Serb fan

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.
(Slagjana, 8 January 2015 10:19)

Actually something similar did happen in Serbia. Some lunatics killed a French guy. They went to jail, nobody knows their names, nobody glorifies them in the way Albanians and their Turkish masters have glorified the murder of Marko Ivkovic. What planet you live in, God only knows.

Then again you say greetings from "Macedonia".. I can only assume FYR Macedonia. If so, you live on the planet where Alexander the Great was Slavic and spoke a broken dialect of somewhere in between Serbian and Bulgarian. So obviously not planet Earth.

If you really are a Slav from FYRomia, perhaps you should worry about the Albanian terrorist attacks (shooting police headquarters, even rockets fired at gov't buildings), and attempts to chop your little country in half. Maybe it's time to apologise to Greece and Serbia for being a bad neighbor and beg for forgiveness before you have to start learning Albanian.

@ Slagjana. please spare us we know your Albanian ...p.s. Macedonia is Greek.

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.
(Slagjana, 8 January 2015 10:19)

First of if you were from Macedonia your name would be Sladjana and not Slagjana, it already happened in Belgrade and the murderers were sentenced to 40 yrs in prison. 40 yrs, not 18.

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.

Why 18 and not life?
I don't know the facts. I doubt it was self defense but if you deliberately take a life you should at least spend the rest of yours behind bars.

The indictment also states that the sentence lower than envisaged was sought because of "unjustified provocation," and that the victim "punched Aktas in the nose," after which the suspected killer stabbed him to death with a knife
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I see. If you get punched in the nose then the other guys has every right to kill you. A punch equals death.
Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable.
BTW, who says that there was unjust provocation? Maybe the killer provoked the Serb first.

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?
(Avni, 8 January 2015 17:57)

40 years.

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?
(Avni, 8 January 2015 17:57)

40 years.
(Daniel, 8 January 2015 19:17)

In absentia. The ringleaders responsible for the murder are still on the run and the rest got their sentences reduced.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2012&mm=01&dd=26&nav_id=78484

Why are Serbs so proud they sentenced their guy to 40 years in prision for killing a French fan? There is nothing to be proud here. This madness should not happen in the first place. But in a country where the whole stadium calls for the murders of a whole Nation for more than an hour and Serbian government officials present in the stadium act as if nothing is happening what can you expect? Eventually someone will act. When calls for violence are not immediately denounced violence will ensue.

@Peggy said:
….Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable…

Please spare your petty comments loaded with hate.
It seems that the only thing we have to hang on right now is religion, we Serbs are Christians, therefore better than Muslims.

In fact, here we are dealing with two violent murders no matter what religion they belong, and they should be judged and rot in jail for having killed a human being, religion has nothing to do with it.

And for your information, no one has done more harm to the humanity than the catholic church. Since the fall of the roman empire till the renaissance , for more than 1000 years the catholic church has murdered, burned at the stake and tortured millions of innocent people with the inquisition being its climax of cruelty and barbarism. I am sure you would have enjoyed being burned as a witch, high on the stake so you can grill to death slowly and painfully.
15 years ago, our priests were blessing soldiers going into a murderous campaign of killing , raping and torturing innocent young Bosnians, so spare me your Christian pride.
People who use religion to claim their worth haven’t understood anything about god or spirituality.

In absentia. The ringleaders responsible for the murder are still on the run and the rest got their sentences reduced.
[link]
(Mark, 8 January 2015 21:19)
# Comment link

They are not on the run your link is from 2012.

But in a country where the whole stadium calls for the murders of a whole Nation for more than an hour and Serbian government officials present in the stadium act as if nothing is happening what can you expect? Eventually someone will act. When calls for violence are not immediately denounced violence will ensue."

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

@Daniel-- First of all, nobody is arguing the legality of free speech. Second I am an atheist so I don't give two $hits about your BS religious arguments or religion in general. Now that we got this out of the way, this is all about how elected officials react to calls for violence. Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this.

As for Tirana I'm not Nostradamus, but it seems you are. We will play there and we will all see it. The likes of Edi Rama would be the first to ones to come against any calls for violence. This is because he is a humanist at heart. Meanwhile Dacic's sponsors are soccer hooligans and Vucic and Nikolic are dictatorship relics. They are authoritarian at heart.

They are not on the run your link is from 2012.
(Daniel, 9 January 2015 01:20)

Post a link that shows that they got caught then.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.
(Daniel, 9 January 2015 18:19)

Sop making up BS and then accusing us of not accepting your BS. It happened in Belgrade and not in Tirana.

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

@Daniel-- First of all, nobody is arguing the legality of free speech. Second I am an atheist so I don't give two $hits about your BS religious arguments or religion in general. Now that we got this out of the way, this is all about how elected officials react to calls for violence. Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this.

As for Tirana I'm not Nostradamus, but it seems you are. We will play there and we will all see it. The likes of Edi Rama would be the first to ones to come against any calls for violence. This is because he is a humanist at heart. Meanwhile Dacic's sponsors are soccer hooligans and Vucic and Nikolic are dictatorship relics. They are authoritarian at heart.

@Peggy said:
….Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable…
============================
Boom, you're right this is what I said but spare me your long winded inaccurate sermon of how I think a Christian life is worth more than a Muslim one. I did not say that. I said that Muslims think that a Muslim life is worth more than a Christian life so if you are going to distort something I have said at least don't post the quote.

@Daniel who said: …Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech…

Something so wrong with you kid, no wonder you and your friends are vomiting so much hate in this forum against other ethnic groups when you hold such views.

Put this in your mind before you get in trouble kid and become like one of those despicable muslim jihadists:

“Calls for violence are not freedom of speech, they are hate speech and you can go to jail for that”

From Wikipedia:
The Serbian constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but restricts it in certain cases to protect human rights. The criminal charge of "Provoking ethnic, racial and religion based animosity and intolerance" carries a minimum six months prison term and a maximum of ten years.[57]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Serbia

Mark, here you go. http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/aktuelno.291.html:421932-Uhapsen-Djordje-Prelic-optuzen-za-ubistvo-Tatona

Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this. "

Well if he is the testimony the serbian officials sure as hell reacted by sentencing the perpetrators to a maximum of 40 years in prison. And even after the incident in Marakana serb officials numerous times stated that they are against any form of violence while Rama takes pictures with the "Greater Albania" flag wherever he goes and even puts it on his fasade for new years eve.

Well if he is the testimony the serbian officials sure as hell reacted by sentencing the perpetrators to a maximum of 40 years in prison. And even after the incident in Marakana serb officials numerous times stated that they are against any form of violence while Rama takes pictures with the "Greater Albania" flag wherever he goes and even puts it on his fasade for new years eve.
(Daniel, 12 January 2015 11:03)

The sentencing is way too late. Dacic hanging with hooligans is supporting violence. No elected official did anything when tens of thousands of mad fans were yelling about the murder of Albanians in the stadium.That is supporting violence.

As for Rama you are either uninformed or misinformed. A nationalist he is not. You would like to but he is not. That's why we have all this orchestrated effort to portray him as such. O I forgot, provikacja.

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.
(Slagjana, 8 January 2015 10:19)

Actually something similar did happen in Serbia. Some lunatics killed a French guy. They went to jail, nobody knows their names, nobody glorifies them in the way Albanians and their Turkish masters have glorified the murder of Marko Ivkovic. What planet you live in, God only knows.

Then again you say greetings from "Macedonia".. I can only assume FYR Macedonia. If so, you live on the planet where Alexander the Great was Slavic and spoke a broken dialect of somewhere in between Serbian and Bulgarian. So obviously not planet Earth.

If you really are a Slav from FYRomia, perhaps you should worry about the Albanian terrorist attacks (shooting police headquarters, even rockets fired at gov't buildings), and attempts to chop your little country in half. Maybe it's time to apologise to Greece and Serbia for being a bad neighbor and beg for forgiveness before you have to start learning Albanian.

@ Slagjana. please spare us we know your Albanian ...p.s. Macedonia is Greek.

Now if this was in Serbia, and a Serb did this and they do in foreign nations, he would probably be decorated as a Hero and Serb Idol rather than a murderer. Serbia knows this well and truly they have a history.

Cao from Macedonia.
(Slagjana, 8 January 2015 10:19)

First of if you were from Macedonia your name would be Sladjana and not Slagjana, it already happened in Belgrade and the murderers were sentenced to 40 yrs in prison. 40 yrs, not 18.

The indictment also states that the sentence lower than envisaged was sought because of "unjustified provocation," and that the victim "punched Aktas in the nose," after which the suspected killer stabbed him to death with a knife
-----------------------------------
I see. If you get punched in the nose then the other guys has every right to kill you. A punch equals death.
Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable.
BTW, who says that there was unjust provocation? Maybe the killer provoked the Serb first.

Why are Serbs so proud they sentenced their guy to 40 years in prision for killing a French fan? There is nothing to be proud here. This madness should not happen in the first place. But in a country where the whole stadium calls for the murders of a whole Nation for more than an hour and Serbian government officials present in the stadium act as if nothing is happening what can you expect? Eventually someone will act. When calls for violence are not immediately denounced violence will ensue.

@Peggy said:
….Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable…

Please spare your petty comments loaded with hate.
It seems that the only thing we have to hang on right now is religion, we Serbs are Christians, therefore better than Muslims.

In fact, here we are dealing with two violent murders no matter what religion they belong, and they should be judged and rot in jail for having killed a human being, religion has nothing to do with it.

And for your information, no one has done more harm to the humanity than the catholic church. Since the fall of the roman empire till the renaissance , for more than 1000 years the catholic church has murdered, burned at the stake and tortured millions of innocent people with the inquisition being its climax of cruelty and barbarism. I am sure you would have enjoyed being burned as a witch, high on the stake so you can grill to death slowly and painfully.
15 years ago, our priests were blessing soldiers going into a murderous campaign of killing , raping and torturing innocent young Bosnians, so spare me your Christian pride.
People who use religion to claim their worth haven’t understood anything about god or spirituality.

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?
(Avni, 8 January 2015 17:57)

40 years.

Why 18 and not life?
I don't know the facts. I doubt it was self defense but if you deliberately take a life you should at least spend the rest of yours behind bars.

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?

But in a country where the whole stadium calls for the murders of a whole Nation for more than an hour and Serbian government officials present in the stadium act as if nothing is happening what can you expect? Eventually someone will act. When calls for violence are not immediately denounced violence will ensue."

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.
(Daniel, 9 January 2015 18:19)

Sop making up BS and then accusing us of not accepting your BS. It happened in Belgrade and not in Tirana.

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

@Daniel-- First of all, nobody is arguing the legality of free speech. Second I am an atheist so I don't give two $hits about your BS religious arguments or religion in general. Now that we got this out of the way, this is all about how elected officials react to calls for violence. Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this.

As for Tirana I'm not Nostradamus, but it seems you are. We will play there and we will all see it. The likes of Edi Rama would be the first to ones to come against any calls for violence. This is because he is a humanist at heart. Meanwhile Dacic's sponsors are soccer hooligans and Vucic and Nikolic are dictatorship relics. They are authoritarian at heart.

@Daniel who said: …Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech…

Something so wrong with you kid, no wonder you and your friends are vomiting so much hate in this forum against other ethnic groups when you hold such views.

Put this in your mind before you get in trouble kid and become like one of those despicable muslim jihadists:

“Calls for violence are not freedom of speech, they are hate speech and you can go to jail for that”

From Wikipedia:
The Serbian constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but restricts it in certain cases to protect human rights. The criminal charge of "Provoking ethnic, racial and religion based animosity and intolerance" carries a minimum six months prison term and a maximum of ten years.[57]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Serbia

They are not on the run your link is from 2012.
(Daniel, 9 January 2015 01:20)

Post a link that shows that they got caught then.

Calls for violence are not illegal, its called freedom of speech which is something that you muslims dont understand which the events in France have shown once again.

And please dont act like the same wouldnt have happened in Tirana when we both know it would have.

@Daniel-- First of all, nobody is arguing the legality of free speech. Second I am an atheist so I don't give two $hits about your BS religious arguments or religion in general. Now that we got this out of the way, this is all about how elected officials react to calls for violence. Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this.

As for Tirana I'm not Nostradamus, but it seems you are. We will play there and we will all see it. The likes of Edi Rama would be the first to ones to come against any calls for violence. This is because he is a humanist at heart. Meanwhile Dacic's sponsors are soccer hooligans and Vucic and Nikolic are dictatorship relics. They are authoritarian at heart.

@Peggy said:
….Oh wait. That's how it works in Muslim countries. You can kill a Christian and the sentence won't be much because a Muslim is always more valuable…
============================
Boom, you're right this is what I said but spare me your long winded inaccurate sermon of how I think a Christian life is worth more than a Muslim one. I did not say that. I said that Muslims think that a Muslim life is worth more than a Christian life so if you are going to distort something I have said at least don't post the quote.

How many years did Serbian killer of French fan get?
(Avni, 8 January 2015 17:57)

40 years.
(Daniel, 8 January 2015 19:17)

In absentia. The ringleaders responsible for the murder are still on the run and the rest got their sentences reduced.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2012&mm=01&dd=26&nav_id=78484

In absentia. The ringleaders responsible for the murder are still on the run and the rest got their sentences reduced.
[link]
(Mark, 8 January 2015 21:19)
# Comment link

They are not on the run your link is from 2012.

Mark, here you go. http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/aktuelno.291.html:421932-Uhapsen-Djordje-Prelic-optuzen-za-ubistvo-Tatona

Those that don't react against it are supporting it and violence is inevitable. The murdered French fan is the testimony for this. "

Well if he is the testimony the serbian officials sure as hell reacted by sentencing the perpetrators to a maximum of 40 years in prison. And even after the incident in Marakana serb officials numerous times stated that they are against any form of violence while Rama takes pictures with the "Greater Albania" flag wherever he goes and even puts it on his fasade for new years eve.

Well if he is the testimony the serbian officials sure as hell reacted by sentencing the perpetrators to a maximum of 40 years in prison. And even after the incident in Marakana serb officials numerous times stated that they are against any form of violence while Rama takes pictures with the "Greater Albania" flag wherever he goes and even puts it on his fasade for new years eve.
(Daniel, 12 January 2015 11:03)

The sentencing is way too late. Dacic hanging with hooligans is supporting violence. No elected official did anything when tens of thousands of mad fans were yelling about the murder of Albanians in the stadium.That is supporting violence.

As for Rama you are either uninformed or misinformed. A nationalist he is not. You would like to but he is not. That's why we have all this orchestrated effort to portray him as such. O I forgot, provikacja.