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Friday, 02.01.2015.

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"Fight against Kosovo's independence continues"

Marko Djuric has said that Serbia "will continue to fight against the unilaterally proclaimed independence of Kosovo by all means at the state's disposal."

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lili

pre 9 godina

Only in austria ,you have more than 2400 students of albanians origin,idem and even more in Germany and swicerland,not to talk about US and UK!
So continue to believe that we are only prisoners in european jails! Thé wake up will ne harder,

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,I am glad you have 169 righteous people:may be there's hope for you too to be part of these smart people one day by helping your country in solving the albanians serbian relations and accepte Kosovo independence,but mind in your calcul that jews in serbia were exterminated and jews in albanians were 10 times higher at the end of the war .And please,have a look at gavra mandil's fotos-yes a serbian who was saved by albanians- to sée how jews were treated in albanian and prishtina and how they were treated in Belgrade!

lili

pre 9 godina

To daniel again,
You do not know show albanians are traited at all in europe' i am albanian,i live in Paris and i can guarantee you that i am wellcome wherever i go!Europeans are well award that each émigration wave bas it good and bad people because théy have welcomed many nations'' polaks before ww2 in France were thé 'albanians' of that time, than came italians who fullfiled european prisons,then spanish people then yugo people and later albanians... You should read more about émigration in Europe' albanian one is an example of very good intégration: the post ww2 émigration us according to a french study a rare case of success acheiving in tone génération what takes 3 génération for french natives in croosing social barrière and you have not doctors ,profesors,artists-angelin preljocaj is a famous french albanian,lirije begeja a fimmaker,rexhep Mitrovica an actor,etj even in garde ing ,you have one of thé most campus cote d'Azur garden created by an albanian and even diplomats in serbia proper in non albanians ambassy from albanian origjin!- So keep in mind that 'newcomers' are always seen with prejudices,but very quickly integrated as swiss football team proves it! But you may continue believe that albanians are' undermenchen':it doés not bother us at all,we are used to from serbian part,but you will be the one to be surprised-just as it happened in thé kosovar war:you were so sûre albanians are nothing and will have no support!

roberto

pre 9 godina

A rare moment of honesty from the chetnik terror crowd:
We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.
(Daniel, 6 January 2015 00:47)

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.
(Daniel, 7 January 2015 00:46)

You do not know anything about western Europe and how Serbs and Kosova-Albaniens are seen here. Both do not have the highest levels of approval, but one thing most certainly sticks out, and that is the war crimes committed in the name of Serbia all over the Balkans. People definitly have not forgotten that anywhere in Europe or America. It is something Serbia has to live with. Well, as you also openly said, you were part of that inhumain criminal gang of people who took part in it and you are even proud of killing innocent people. Shame on you, and you disqualified yourself forever as a person who should be taken seriously.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

conjecture Daniel, all conjecture. you will find swedes/french/germans who despise Albanians as you will find those who despise serbs. however, your people have made it into text books about war crimes, text books which are used in universities. but don't worry daniel you will always have your parents words ringing in your ears

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's. "

So for an SS division you would like to refer to.......drumwirvel...a GERMAN source? I rest my case.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

lilli,

Serbia has 131 rigteous among the nations while Albania have just 69. I guess the Israeli knows best who treated the jews best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Righteous_Among_the_Nations_by_country

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's.
For thé jews of Kosovo: none of them was déportés except those of Mitrovica which were under serbian rule du ring ww2:serbian authority of Mitrovica capturer jewish in Mitrovica and gave them to italians authorities 'thèse 'serbian'jews were next transfered from prishtina to belgrade and from belgrade togerman camps.Jews of 'albanian'part of Kosovo then were transfered by albanians population in a SAFER place in albania,even when they were serbian jews..http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/albania.html
As for prishtina camp you should have a look to gavra mandil collection of foto to learn show our SS did treat their jews and have a look to Belgrade fale foto to sée show your SS did treat their jews here http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/result.aspx?SortOrder=&DateToFilter=&DateFromFilter=&TypeFilter=&LocaleFilter=Albania
Israël gave the title of righous nation to albania a few years ago. I think that they know Better than you Daniel about jews extermination in albanian territories!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"...guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page ..." The ONLY thing Europeans know? what, you mean really ignorant Europeans? dear me what a stupid comment and from a professor as well. it'd be a shame if your students didn't read the above comment and come to realise what tool they have for a professor

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

getting rather desperate Daniel. let me broaden it for you, people with in inkling for general knowledge, know that the heavenly people gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. students who study international relations, history, politics, law learn about the Hague and those incarcerated there and learn about it in great detail as well as the good deeds of Serbs. but don't worry Daniel, you can always tell garbage to your kids

Andreas

pre 9 godina

we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-) ( Nikolle)

Nikolle, I am a Professor at the University of Amsterdam myself, I 'm Greek, every semester my students are from 65 countries on average because the Programs I teach in are all in English and I guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page in the history in both world wars. And the only thing they know about Albanians (trough the European Press) is that Albania is the biggest producer of criminals in Europe.

I am telling you this without a shred of irony: Dont be isolated, travel a bit and spend some time abroad just to see how the world spins. Too much tee vee and internet can give you the wrong impression about the world.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, why would a student that study Biology, Mathematics or Science learn about Srebrenica? Howewer all they have to do to learn about albanian culture and criminality is to go out on a saturday evening or to visit the local prison. At least here in Sweden the prisons are 99.99999% filled with albanians such as yourself.

The True HOOHA

pre 9 godina

How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

No, it happened after we were explained about all the crimes Albanians and Croats did to our nation.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@True

yes, its always Serbs being sinned against, they never do the sinning themselves. don't worry true (do you call yourself that ironically?), for all the brainwashing your parents may have subjected you to, there's thousands of university students world wide who learn about Srebrenica, and who see for themselves which nation gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. All they have to do is count the number of Serb nationals currently residing in the Hague. we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-)

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

They didnt have to, I have seen with my own eyes what you are capable of being a part of mup back in 98/99 and when it comes to croats a lot of my ancestors were brutally murdered at Jasenovac.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children."

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Willi pfaff

Your sympathy is with the Serbs, you write. Hypocritical and false.

One characteristic of a facist (as you frequently call others) is one who is intolerant.
If you don't like being called a facist, a hypocrite and a liar then be more careful when you reveal your true feelings of intolerance with comments you write such as "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

@ roberto - Got your underwear in a knot when someone is, as you write, 'spying' on your facebook page? A rather sophomoric comment, roberto, even for you.
If you don't want the world to be able to 'spy' - I mean read - your facebook page, then change your privacy settings.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...
(roberto, 5 January 2015 21:43)
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How is it spying if it's in the public domain? Did he hack you FB?
Unless he is lying, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division"

Wtf are you on about? There were no serbian SS division and no serbian volunteers in SS whatsoever, howewer there whas a whole 100% pure ethnic albanian SS dvission Skenderbeg and tens of thousands of other albanian nazi collaborators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX0XZgJi4KU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtAltF3gX9M
The Skanderbeg Division engaged in a policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Serbian Orthodox Christian and Jewish populations of Kosovo-Metohija and the Stara Srbija region. In Kosovo-Metohija, the Skanderbeg Division massacred unarmed Serbian civilians with impunity and indiscriminately in a systematic plan of genocide. The Skanderbeg Division sought to create an ethnically pure Kosovo-Metohija,'Kosova' or 'Kosove', cleansed of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies, the untermenschen (subhumans) rayah targeted for extermination. The Skanderbeg Dision played a role in the Holocaust or Final Solution when, during its occupation of Kosovo-Metohija, it rounded up scores of Kosovo Jews and Orthodox Serbs, persons deemed enemies of the Third Reich, who were subsequently deported to concentration camps.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willi, we serbs have made mistakes believing that you germans have changed when in fact the only thing that has changed are your methods, your goal to rule europe is still the same. A 4th reich is what your aiming for and you are trying to build it with help from your fellow nazi brothers the albs and the croats so thats the reason why on a daily basis I have to show what we think of you so we dont make the same mistake trusting you again. We have only been defending ourselves from albanian savages and croat nazis or maybe you wanted the serbs in krajina to sit and wait and let them finish what their ancestors started in Jasenovac?

We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know your history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters in your serbian volunteers corps and your sumadija corps for example? They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division,who were active only during winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo is a blocked zone during winter,even more in those time!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in belgrad! Go and read you 'glorious history' and how your popes gave their benediction for killing jewish people yersterday and muslim people a few years ago!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@Daniel, gerhard and alike

My sympathy is with the Serbs, Americans, Poles etc who fought against the nazis and helped to end their terror and mass murder all over Europe. What you don't see is that Serbia abandoned that fight and betrayed their freedom fighters when Serb nationalism and fascism took over und Milosevic. You show here on a daily basis that you have the same mindset as those nazis your forefathers fought against. You are no better than those mindless killers that came from the country I was borne in, you learned nothing.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)
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OK, I'll take you at your word and accept that your grandparents fought against the Nazis. Do you know that Serbs fought against the Nazis too so your grandparents and the Serbs were on the same side. The Nazis your grandparents hated so much were Croatians, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians and here you are saying that Serbs are Nazis and the others who your own grandparents, by your own admissions fought.
I think your grandparents are turning in their graves because of what you do now.
If anti Nazi blood runs in your family, then you must be adopted.

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know jour history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters? Thé y were much more important than the albanians in SS division,who were active only du ring winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo ia a blocked zone du ring winter,even more in those tome!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in bbelgrad!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

roberto

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia." willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.(Gerhard, 5 January 2015 17:25)

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Daniel, Germany was ruled by the SS until late 60s. What Willi says about his fam fighting the Nazis is full of crap, Germans supported the SS in their governments for 20 years after WW-II. This is who Germans are, fascism is in their system. The EU is their 4th Reich, but they will lose that war, just like they lost every other one. Assuming you are Serb, make sure your politicians don't convince you to join the EU. As for Albanians...they are considered the worst criminals in Europe. If Willi loves them so much, he should adopt a few of them and get them to his house. Albania will never join the EU because (a) we will never accept a criminal country unless it decreases its crime rate and (b) by the time Albania does so, the EU will have ceased to exist. As for Willi...he is desperate to convince people to hate another nation, any other nation. He is tired of feeling hated by Europeans. He is tired of not being able to say "I'm proud of being German" or "God bless Germany", just like the rest of us say for our countries. French hate Germans, Dutch hate Germans, Brits hate Germans, Southern Europeans hate Germans, Russians hate Germans, everybody hates Germans. He needs to feel loved for a change, even by Albanians. Try to love him a bit. He needs it.

By the way, I'm sorry for 1999. If Francois Mitterrand was alive, we would side with Greece and stop NATO. And then Italy and Spain would follow. But Mitterrand died in 1996 and France turned into USA's marionette.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willy so let me get this straight, your family was fighting the nazis and you side with the nazi-loving albanians? Need I to remind you that the albanians were 100% with the nazis and even had their own SS divisions? I bet your family members consider you a traitor.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff, very touching story. Is this what your parents told you when you were a kid, to make you feel good about your fascistic ancestors?

Democracy is not a one time thing. It takes daily efforts to keep a society democratized. Just because you stopped killing Jews and Christian Europeans it doesn't mean you are democrats. You are and you have always been the number one fascistic scums in Europe. If you want to bully people, like a nice fascist that you are, try to find a Spanish or Greek or Italian blog to do so. And if you want to make new friends online, go to an Austrian, Croatian or Finnish blog to do so because these people are the only ones who have ever liked you, as fascists or not.

PS: I had no intention to keep reading a website about Balkans, but now that I found a nice German like you here...now that changes everything. I guess Serbia doesn't really need to make new friends and allies. As long as Germans don't support Serbs, Serbs can find plenty friends in Europe ;-)

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.
(Peggy, 5 January 2015 11:48)

Well dear Peggy, let me tell you a little bit about my family history. Both my grandpartents fought the Nazi's, and refused to join the Nazi party, even it was oblatory back than. They fought the Nazi's wherever they could, but also had to make sure that their falilies were protected. As a result they both lost their good paying jobs, and were forced to work in jobs way below their qualifications. During the war they were drafted against their will, and that is the last my grandparents and partents saw of them. A few weeks later they were both informed that they had died, no reason given, and their graves were never found, just like the Kosovars that were killed by fascist serbs and whos remains were never found. We think they were killed by the Nazis. My dad was a young teenager at the end of the war, living with the trauma that his dad was killed most likley by the Nazis, and he was drafted a few weeks before the war was over, and thank god he survived the Nazi terror.
I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.

The KRF bros

pre 9 godina

"I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here."
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)

Do you know ANYTHING about the Serbian history, AH? Obviously not, otherwise with a great history like that, you wouldn't dare to be here spreading fascistically your anti-Serbian propaganda.

As for your relationship to fascism, what Germany did to Serbia in 1999 was not exactly a democratic action either. You bombed the entire Private sector which after the war was bought as garbage by German multinationals. Go pretend the democrat peacemaker somewhere else pal, somewhere outside Europe, somewhere where people don't know who Germans are.

lili

pre 9 godina

Yes,fight continues for your gvt!
OK,let's go on on economic fight this time,because on the ground we know,it's over.
Kosovo is a major market for Serbia: it's time to change this, 'for these little parasites 'born and bred with serbian goods!Not sending our 'dirty albanian'money to serbe will spare us at least 3 milliards,so we must thank Peggy and co to remind us to carry on this economic fight too!

lili

pre 9 godina

Oh Peggy speaks out what most of serbs think! That 's their problème indeed ,seing others in such old fanatic way and a culturel problème in their éducation! But having academicians like cubrilovic and cosic may be explains this :Peggy and her friends trully believe that others than serbe in balkan are 'undermenschen' as their academicians teachs them...not any critical idéa in here academic formation,conforting me that she's only a serbian'svinja',not supporting albanians parazits that causes here so much trouble!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015
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You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.

Lazar

pre 9 godina

how can albanians call other people nazis..you formed an SS division in the 1940s ooo 'Kosovos in such a better place' now yehh thats why most of your young men are going off to syria/iraq or vandalising churches with isis graffiti/ harrassing old Serbs real brave bunch you are..enjoy living in poverty im sure albania the drug haven of europe will sort out your economic troubles...or you could always start organ trafficking again?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.
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OMG, this is priceless.

Ilir@ Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really
(Lazar, 5 January 2015 04:18)

ARE YOU SERIOUS??! We have fought against turks for 500 years. FIVE HUNDRED that is my friend..

Juliette

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet - said by Willi Pfaff

Willi, are you German? I'm only asking because of your German name. If yes, then why don't you focus on NPD, the German Neo-Nazi party that won seats in the Euro Parliament last year? It's clear who are the Nazis in the EU, though I'm not sure who is a bigger Nazi, Udo Voigt or Ankela Merkel. Since you like posting comments, should I send you a bunch of German blogs were Germans discuss about the lack of democracy in Germany?

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Now stop picking on Peggy. She is a true Serb patriot and is paid by the Serb government to hide Captain Dragan in her basement.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.

j

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

Yes keep saying this. Join Jovan as well. These NAZI statements really help your cause.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.
(Ilir, 3 January 2015 16:06)

Bravo!!!! there is nothing else to add. Your entire comment makes so much sense. Bravo!!!!

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really

Azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.

Besides talking nonsense how does your living half way around the world improve the economy of near bankrupt serbia?

I suppose if serbs were to squeeze into the pipeing distrubution grid all the hot gases coming out of Ari Gold,Daniel,Ratko,Peggy Sj the self declared financial advisore to bankrupt regimes such as Russia, serbia and Greece....serbia might have some unnatural gas to sell to feed themselves.

Peggy show the world your serb balls and return ,as all criminals inevitably do, to the scene of the crime in our Kosova and continue with you lies.

Kosova must a Law anyone denying the Genocide of Kosovars a Federal Felony subject found guilty mandatory imprisenment and evitual deportation and permanent ban from Kosova.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

m pretty sure Serbs dont comment on your news so why are albanians constantly commenting on here?
(Lazar, 4 January 2015 00:40)
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Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.

@Lazar

pre 9 godina

Why, we can't? So now it's just for Serbians? Nowadays everything is Serbian nowadays... Kosovo je Srbija, Republika Srpska je Srbija, Amerika je Srbija...

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"
(Rebeli, 3 January 2015 10:23)
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And how does that benefit Romania and the people who have no chance to get the same skills or move out?
She should be in her own country helping her people but instead she only thinks of herself and helps herself.
Well done.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.
(Ari Gold, 2 January 2015 20:51)

You are starting to make some sense in the new year, mate :)

That's absolutely correct... As part of the EU membership process Serbia is required to make progress in dealing with corruption and becoming economically competitive: that's the important part. The EU membership is not a goal per se, but the reforms needed to achieve it are.

illyrian lover

pre 9 godina

My dear friends, what fight is it and where is this continued fight taken place? Are these Serbian political baffon leaders delusional?

a New day

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
Suffer from memory loss long now. If you remember events Serbia held all the cards and Milosevics answer was to rid Kosovo of Albanians first by trying to force them out with starvation,intimidation and oppression by closing all the factories, throwing them out of all state jobs, then closing the schools, hospitals etc. When that did not work and they started to try and defend themselves he used force. It took the big powers to bring that to an end. Serbia only came to the table because the big powers forced them to, and they refused any negotiation. It was after total fruitless negotiations without interference with only a moderator that it was determined talks were hopeless. Because Serbia had NOTHING to lose. UNSC 1244 had stripped Kosovo from Serbia in every way except name, and forcing the Albanians into living in turmoil was the best option Serbs could come up with, as they thought talks would just last forever.
It wasn't until the talks ended and they found out Kosovo was going to unilaterally declare independence and it would be supported by most if not all of the west that the Serbs came up with the slogan of "more than autonmy less than independence" An idea never offered at the tables. Things might be different if they had!

lili

pre 9 godina

Lazar,We just try to be helpfull to you guy so that you get out of your vicious cercle and face reality about Kosovo!Kosovo ia part of your history just as Belgrade is part of our history ,but you will never rule again Kosovo.So Better admit it and try to have a good life in serbia!

Free

pre 9 godina

Well, we all are very informed with the results of "stopping recognitions" campaigns in the past. It`s goal is to "minimize the losses".

The serbian and albanian politicians know very well that politically Kosovo case is solved. It"s finished. But economically Kosovo is still "under Serbia". Serbia is the main trade partner of Kosovo.

Economy, this is the battlefield now. But this is "a silent battle". It`s kept away from the public eyes (and ears) because it`s a "dirty war".

When UK handed over Hong Kong to China the condition was "unchanged economic system of Hong Kong for 50 years".

Brian

pre 9 godina

This is the official website of the republic of kosovo central election commission. http://www.kqz-ks.org/en/home

The visual design of Kosovo on the republic of Kosovo coat of arms is the same as the one on the republic of Kosovo central election Comission.

lili

pre 9 godina

It is always fun to see how much you learn from History!For centuries you have tried to get rid of albanians in Kosovo and you failed! Even with yu army ...
You are not in position to décide for Kosovo for years,not to speak of the economic cost of jour vain efforts to 'keep' Kosovo!do you remember how much your ex ministers spent travelling all around the world to prevent Kosovo independance? So go on,spend somme more money,by the way have you paid etiopia?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)

It already did happen.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

I am Albanian from Kosovo and so proud to be one. I love my country, Republic of Kosova that is. I AM MORE THAN SICK of these stories and the problems that our societies still have in the 21st century for the GOD's sake. We are still fighting for lands when the others are going to the Moon and even Mars. We are both the poorest countries in Europe, we are both the least educated countries in Europe, and we are both the most hated countries in Europe. I have many european friends and I even live away from Kosova and everybody treats our region as the cancer of Europe. LET"S MOVE AHEAD for the GOD's sake. Let this stupidity end. We are independent. We do NOT want to live with Serbia anymore. 95 % of people in Kosova are Albanian and we don't want to live with you.What can you do about that? Milosevic's plan has failed and you know that.I am 22, and I really believe that the new generations will change. I have friends from all around the world, but no Serbians! Why can it be so?Let's stop the hatred, let's be civilised, let's respect each other, let's be good neighbours and let's stop these stupid fights which feel like we are living in the 10th century! Let's stop being the cancer of Europe! We are Balkan, we have such a long history, so many values. I know a lot about Serbian traditions and I really respect those, and we Albanians have also a lot of history ! Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.

First he does not have diplomatic status and he is no ambassador, an embassy can never be located in an EU hq and Serbia is not an EU country. Show me the official adress where it says Serbian embassy in Pristina you cunt. Last but not least where does it say that thos 7% were serbs? Just because they are serb citizens doesnt make them serbs, probably were albanian terrorists like yourself. There is a huge difference between liasion officer and ambassador, google is your friend and educate yourself. And I hope that Kosovo join the EU before Serbia just like the majority of us, we dont want anything to do with nor the EU neither you albanians.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo "
Another lie, show me a picture that prooves it? Thats right, you cant just like you neveer proove your ridiculous filthy lies.
A member of the Kosovo Central Election Commission, Goran Zdravković, said that there would be no symbols of the so-called Republic of Kosovo on ballots for the elections of November 3, but only the Central Election Commission’s logo. The words Central Election Commission will be on the left side, written in the Albanian, Serbian and English language, while on the right side the words Local Elections 2013 will be written, specified Zdravković, who is the only Serb in the Central Election Commission. - See more at: http://www.voiceofserbia.org/content/zdravkovi%C4%87-no-disputable-logos-ballots-kosovo-elections#sthash.sCYY60nj.dpuf

Key sentence "no symbols of the so-called republic of kosovo", another lie of that albanian garbage "Brian" crushed.

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

@ Ari Gold
"Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership."

I am sorry my friend, but this is only your personal opinion, or at its best, it is the opinion of a minor part of the Serbian population. The fact is that 70% of the Serbian parents, consider Europe as the future for their children. Can Serbia be better off, outside EU??? I don't think so. Looking at the past 20 years (the period of time when Serbian/Yugoslavian politicians decided to do on their own and against Europe and the west) things have not improved for Serbia did they?. Your average income (salary) decreased to 350 Eur/month by November 2014. As an Albanian parent, I would,like the same for my children. And at the same time, I remember the 80's when our leaders told us that Albania dose not need anybody and it will be "the sole lighting lantern of Europe".

On the other hand I have already asked one of my Romanian friend about the benefits of joining EU and I will give you her personal example. She was graduated as a medical doctor in Romania and working in hospital in Frankfurt Germany. Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"

roberto

pre 9 godina

Same old Milosevic crap. All negotiations with the Belgrade regime should be halted until they recognize Kosova and stop holding the people of Bosnia hostage. The EU has learned nothing from the past, in which case Europe flirts with a repeat of the Serbian-led genocides of the 1990s. It is a very big mistake, and the common people of the Balkans will suffer for it...

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

Haha that's hilarious Marko. I beg to differ that the Serbian government will do its best to defend Serbia's interest in Kosovo. For starters, what ever happened to UNC 1244? Why was that swept under the rug? Ahh yes I forgot, silly me, the resolution allowed Serbian police and troops back into Kosovo, and we surely cant have that because Marko, Dacic, Nikolic and Vucic wouldn't receive their pay checks.

You see Israel (Golan/Gaza), Turkey (Cyprus) and the UK (Falkland Islands) doing everything they can to defend their minorities, yet when Serbs are being slaughtered on a monthly basis, Serbia just barks like a little Chihuahua.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.
(Daniel, 2 January 2015 19:29)

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is. The reason why paviceic is learning Albanian is because he's an ambassador. The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo of the republic of Kosovo central election Comission. Serbs elected had to swear oaths to the republic of Kosovo. Pantic wouldn't but rakic did. You are wrong on the poll over 50% would vote to join EU and the poll included Kosovo as a country! 7% of Serbs even said Kosovo would join before Serbia.

a New day

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
For the 100th time this was never ever offered during any of the talks between Serbia and Kosovo. I challenge you to find one thing from the time to show that this was ever a legitimate offer on the table before the talks. Other than personal blogs which seems to be the choice proof on this site.
Also an explanation of what that means from anyone would be nice. The Taiwan situation is not an example. It is basically what Kosovo and Serbia has today where both deny the others authority with the exception that there are 108 countries that recognize Kosovo.
Also explain how the Albanians might regret not accepting such an offer. How could be subserveant to the Serbs ever be better than being under their own control. The only thing they do not have right now is UN/EU membership and they would not have than under Serbia.
But I would fully support a federation system where Serbia and Kosovo have equal status and would have to be in agreement with any laws and international treaties or agreements. With possibly a rotating chair in the UN.
Do you think Serbs would agree to that?

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Albanian

Saying the "land never belonged to them" is a non starter. Thats what got us Serb & Albanians into this mess..."who's land is it?"
Stop already!
In Krajina, Croatia offered the Serbs in Croatia a deal that the Serbs there can only dream about today.
The Serbs thought that they can do better (such as being part of Serbia), they gambled and lost.
In Kosovo, Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
I don't say this out of spite, but looking ahead at probably will happen.
Big powers selling & trading in their quest to protect their interests before all this political turmoil dust settles.
I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Rebeli, 2 January 2015 14:57)

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Money you speend for nonsense better be saving those 180 companys who give jobs to the citizens of serbia just read the news they are going out of the bussines I don't think so anyone is realizing. How many lives are being destroyed from poverty and familys are being separeted trying to flee out of serbia,kosovo etc from selfish people in gouvernments like you.

EA

pre 9 godina

What fight is talking about? Be a grown up man and accept it openly Kosovo is lost and not for your fault but Milloshevic. I am more than 100 per cent sure that privately, the Serbian polititians accept that BUT haven't got the guts to tell the open truth to its own people. That is the problem. When it comes to the rights of Serbian minority in Kosovo, they should have exactely the same right to Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Fight against Kosovo's independence continues"

At least he admits it's independent and they are trying to unravel that independence. It won't work buddy! Lol

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.
(Demi, 2 January 2015 15:47)

No you cant because Serbia was never a part of Kosovo but the other way around.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

What fight did serbia put against Kosova's independence? As ARI said it many times, serbia actually helped Kosova to get there. Clearly not because Serbian government is nice and tomerant, but because they want to become a part of EU. Also the rule of thumb is thia, no one gets to rule and land that never 9 nxe belonged to them. Definitely not if you abused the people that lived there, so by all accounts serbia has lost its right over Kosova centuries ago.

Demi

pre 9 godina

Take your time. When you are ready to recognize Kosova you are welcome.

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.

Brian

pre 9 godina

63% of Serbia according to b92 and ipsos say Kosovo is independent. It's not fighting against Kosovo independence to make dejan pavicevic ambassador, border guards and customs agents between Serbia and Kosovo, state meetings with Kosovo leaders, competing in Olympics with Kosovo, telling Kosovo Serbs to vote on republic of Kosovo ballots, agreeing to a country code for phone calls for Kosovo. Where is any opposition to Kosovo independence in Serbia? Who is he trying to please?

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

This "fight," however, "does not prevent the administration in Belgrade or the Serbs in Kosovo to talk with the Kosovo Albanians and implement the agreements that have been reached."

Is this guy for real? Does the Serbian government realizes what is it doing to its citizens? In a time when 70% of the population, requires the future of their children to be in Europe (BETA's late survey), they come up with such stupid statement whose only reasonable expected result is the delay of EU integration for Serbia. I am sure that, the actual Serbian politicians will serve as a reach source for "case studies"in political studies courses.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet - said by Willi Pfaff

Willi, are you German? I'm only asking because of your German name. If yes, then why don't you focus on NPD, the German Neo-Nazi party that won seats in the Euro Parliament last year? It's clear who are the Nazis in the EU, though I'm not sure who is a bigger Nazi, Udo Voigt or Ankela Merkel. Since you like posting comments, should I send you a bunch of German blogs were Germans discuss about the lack of democracy in Germany?

Lazar

pre 9 godina

how can albanians call other people nazis..you formed an SS division in the 1940s ooo 'Kosovos in such a better place' now yehh thats why most of your young men are going off to syria/iraq or vandalising churches with isis graffiti/ harrassing old Serbs real brave bunch you are..enjoy living in poverty im sure albania the drug haven of europe will sort out your economic troubles...or you could always start organ trafficking again?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"
(Rebeli, 3 January 2015 10:23)
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And how does that benefit Romania and the people who have no chance to get the same skills or move out?
She should be in her own country helping her people but instead she only thinks of herself and helps herself.
Well done.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

m pretty sure Serbs dont comment on your news so why are albanians constantly commenting on here?
(Lazar, 4 January 2015 00:40)
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Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015
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You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.
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OMG, this is priceless.

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willy so let me get this straight, your family was fighting the nazis and you side with the nazi-loving albanians? Need I to remind you that the albanians were 100% with the nazis and even had their own SS divisions? I bet your family members consider you a traitor.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff, very touching story. Is this what your parents told you when you were a kid, to make you feel good about your fascistic ancestors?

Democracy is not a one time thing. It takes daily efforts to keep a society democratized. Just because you stopped killing Jews and Christian Europeans it doesn't mean you are democrats. You are and you have always been the number one fascistic scums in Europe. If you want to bully people, like a nice fascist that you are, try to find a Spanish or Greek or Italian blog to do so. And if you want to make new friends online, go to an Austrian, Croatian or Finnish blog to do so because these people are the only ones who have ever liked you, as fascists or not.

PS: I had no intention to keep reading a website about Balkans, but now that I found a nice German like you here...now that changes everything. I guess Serbia doesn't really need to make new friends and allies. As long as Germans don't support Serbs, Serbs can find plenty friends in Europe ;-)

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.
(Demi, 2 January 2015 15:47)

No you cant because Serbia was never a part of Kosovo but the other way around.

The KRF bros

pre 9 godina

"I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here."
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)

Do you know ANYTHING about the Serbian history, AH? Obviously not, otherwise with a great history like that, you wouldn't dare to be here spreading fascistically your anti-Serbian propaganda.

As for your relationship to fascism, what Germany did to Serbia in 1999 was not exactly a democratic action either. You bombed the entire Private sector which after the war was bought as garbage by German multinationals. Go pretend the democrat peacemaker somewhere else pal, somewhere outside Europe, somewhere where people don't know who Germans are.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Rebeli, 2 January 2015 14:57)

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Albanian

Saying the "land never belonged to them" is a non starter. Thats what got us Serb & Albanians into this mess..."who's land is it?"
Stop already!
In Krajina, Croatia offered the Serbs in Croatia a deal that the Serbs there can only dream about today.
The Serbs thought that they can do better (such as being part of Serbia), they gambled and lost.
In Kosovo, Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
I don't say this out of spite, but looking ahead at probably will happen.
Big powers selling & trading in their quest to protect their interests before all this political turmoil dust settles.
I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.

First he does not have diplomatic status and he is no ambassador, an embassy can never be located in an EU hq and Serbia is not an EU country. Show me the official adress where it says Serbian embassy in Pristina you cunt. Last but not least where does it say that thos 7% were serbs? Just because they are serb citizens doesnt make them serbs, probably were albanian terrorists like yourself. There is a huge difference between liasion officer and ambassador, google is your friend and educate yourself. And I hope that Kosovo join the EU before Serbia just like the majority of us, we dont want anything to do with nor the EU neither you albanians.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo "
Another lie, show me a picture that prooves it? Thats right, you cant just like you neveer proove your ridiculous filthy lies.
A member of the Kosovo Central Election Commission, Goran Zdravković, said that there would be no symbols of the so-called Republic of Kosovo on ballots for the elections of November 3, but only the Central Election Commission’s logo. The words Central Election Commission will be on the left side, written in the Albanian, Serbian and English language, while on the right side the words Local Elections 2013 will be written, specified Zdravković, who is the only Serb in the Central Election Commission. - See more at: http://www.voiceofserbia.org/content/zdravkovi%C4%87-no-disputable-logos-ballots-kosovo-elections#sthash.sCYY60nj.dpuf

Key sentence "no symbols of the so-called republic of kosovo", another lie of that albanian garbage "Brian" crushed.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Willi pfaff

Your sympathy is with the Serbs, you write. Hypocritical and false.

One characteristic of a facist (as you frequently call others) is one who is intolerant.
If you don't like being called a facist, a hypocrite and a liar then be more careful when you reveal your true feelings of intolerance with comments you write such as "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

@ roberto - Got your underwear in a knot when someone is, as you write, 'spying' on your facebook page? A rather sophomoric comment, roberto, even for you.
If you don't want the world to be able to 'spy' - I mean read - your facebook page, then change your privacy settings.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)
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OK, I'll take you at your word and accept that your grandparents fought against the Nazis. Do you know that Serbs fought against the Nazis too so your grandparents and the Serbs were on the same side. The Nazis your grandparents hated so much were Croatians, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians and here you are saying that Serbs are Nazis and the others who your own grandparents, by your own admissions fought.
I think your grandparents are turning in their graves because of what you do now.
If anti Nazi blood runs in your family, then you must be adopted.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willi, we serbs have made mistakes believing that you germans have changed when in fact the only thing that has changed are your methods, your goal to rule europe is still the same. A 4th reich is what your aiming for and you are trying to build it with help from your fellow nazi brothers the albs and the croats so thats the reason why on a daily basis I have to show what we think of you so we dont make the same mistake trusting you again. We have only been defending ourselves from albanian savages and croat nazis or maybe you wanted the serbs in krajina to sit and wait and let them finish what their ancestors started in Jasenovac?

We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Daniel, Germany was ruled by the SS until late 60s. What Willi says about his fam fighting the Nazis is full of crap, Germans supported the SS in their governments for 20 years after WW-II. This is who Germans are, fascism is in their system. The EU is their 4th Reich, but they will lose that war, just like they lost every other one. Assuming you are Serb, make sure your politicians don't convince you to join the EU. As for Albanians...they are considered the worst criminals in Europe. If Willi loves them so much, he should adopt a few of them and get them to his house. Albania will never join the EU because (a) we will never accept a criminal country unless it decreases its crime rate and (b) by the time Albania does so, the EU will have ceased to exist. As for Willi...he is desperate to convince people to hate another nation, any other nation. He is tired of feeling hated by Europeans. He is tired of not being able to say "I'm proud of being German" or "God bless Germany", just like the rest of us say for our countries. French hate Germans, Dutch hate Germans, Brits hate Germans, Southern Europeans hate Germans, Russians hate Germans, everybody hates Germans. He needs to feel loved for a change, even by Albanians. Try to love him a bit. He needs it.

By the way, I'm sorry for 1999. If Francois Mitterrand was alive, we would side with Greece and stop NATO. And then Italy and Spain would follow. But Mitterrand died in 1996 and France turned into USA's marionette.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...
(roberto, 5 January 2015 21:43)
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How is it spying if it's in the public domain? Did he hack you FB?
Unless he is lying, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division"

Wtf are you on about? There were no serbian SS division and no serbian volunteers in SS whatsoever, howewer there whas a whole 100% pure ethnic albanian SS dvission Skenderbeg and tens of thousands of other albanian nazi collaborators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX0XZgJi4KU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtAltF3gX9M
The Skanderbeg Division engaged in a policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Serbian Orthodox Christian and Jewish populations of Kosovo-Metohija and the Stara Srbija region. In Kosovo-Metohija, the Skanderbeg Division massacred unarmed Serbian civilians with impunity and indiscriminately in a systematic plan of genocide. The Skanderbeg Division sought to create an ethnically pure Kosovo-Metohija,'Kosova' or 'Kosove', cleansed of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies, the untermenschen (subhumans) rayah targeted for extermination. The Skanderbeg Dision played a role in the Holocaust or Final Solution when, during its occupation of Kosovo-Metohija, it rounded up scores of Kosovo Jews and Orthodox Serbs, persons deemed enemies of the Third Reich, who were subsequently deported to concentration camps.

Brian

pre 9 godina

63% of Serbia according to b92 and ipsos say Kosovo is independent. It's not fighting against Kosovo independence to make dejan pavicevic ambassador, border guards and customs agents between Serbia and Kosovo, state meetings with Kosovo leaders, competing in Olympics with Kosovo, telling Kosovo Serbs to vote on republic of Kosovo ballots, agreeing to a country code for phone calls for Kosovo. Where is any opposition to Kosovo independence in Serbia? Who is he trying to please?

Demi

pre 9 godina

Take your time. When you are ready to recognize Kosova you are welcome.

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

Haha that's hilarious Marko. I beg to differ that the Serbian government will do its best to defend Serbia's interest in Kosovo. For starters, what ever happened to UNC 1244? Why was that swept under the rug? Ahh yes I forgot, silly me, the resolution allowed Serbian police and troops back into Kosovo, and we surely cant have that because Marko, Dacic, Nikolic and Vucic wouldn't receive their pay checks.

You see Israel (Golan/Gaza), Turkey (Cyprus) and the UK (Falkland Islands) doing everything they can to defend their minorities, yet when Serbs are being slaughtered on a monthly basis, Serbia just barks like a little Chihuahua.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)

It already did happen.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

What fight did serbia put against Kosova's independence? As ARI said it many times, serbia actually helped Kosova to get there. Clearly not because Serbian government is nice and tomerant, but because they want to become a part of EU. Also the rule of thumb is thia, no one gets to rule and land that never 9 nxe belonged to them. Definitely not if you abused the people that lived there, so by all accounts serbia has lost its right over Kosova centuries ago.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

I am Albanian from Kosovo and so proud to be one. I love my country, Republic of Kosova that is. I AM MORE THAN SICK of these stories and the problems that our societies still have in the 21st century for the GOD's sake. We are still fighting for lands when the others are going to the Moon and even Mars. We are both the poorest countries in Europe, we are both the least educated countries in Europe, and we are both the most hated countries in Europe. I have many european friends and I even live away from Kosova and everybody treats our region as the cancer of Europe. LET"S MOVE AHEAD for the GOD's sake. Let this stupidity end. We are independent. We do NOT want to live with Serbia anymore. 95 % of people in Kosova are Albanian and we don't want to live with you.What can you do about that? Milosevic's plan has failed and you know that.I am 22, and I really believe that the new generations will change. I have friends from all around the world, but no Serbians! Why can it be so?Let's stop the hatred, let's be civilised, let's respect each other, let's be good neighbours and let's stop these stupid fights which feel like we are living in the 10th century! Let's stop being the cancer of Europe! We are Balkan, we have such a long history, so many values. I know a lot about Serbian traditions and I really respect those, and we Albanians have also a lot of history ! Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

This "fight," however, "does not prevent the administration in Belgrade or the Serbs in Kosovo to talk with the Kosovo Albanians and implement the agreements that have been reached."

Is this guy for real? Does the Serbian government realizes what is it doing to its citizens? In a time when 70% of the population, requires the future of their children to be in Europe (BETA's late survey), they come up with such stupid statement whose only reasonable expected result is the delay of EU integration for Serbia. I am sure that, the actual Serbian politicians will serve as a reach source for "case studies"in political studies courses.

lili

pre 9 godina

It is always fun to see how much you learn from History!For centuries you have tried to get rid of albanians in Kosovo and you failed! Even with yu army ...
You are not in position to décide for Kosovo for years,not to speak of the economic cost of jour vain efforts to 'keep' Kosovo!do you remember how much your ex ministers spent travelling all around the world to prevent Kosovo independance? So go on,spend somme more money,by the way have you paid etiopia?

The True HOOHA

pre 9 godina

How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

No, it happened after we were explained about all the crimes Albanians and Croats did to our nation.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Fight against Kosovo's independence continues"

At least he admits it's independent and they are trying to unravel that independence. It won't work buddy! Lol

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

They didnt have to, I have seen with my own eyes what you are capable of being a part of mup back in 98/99 and when it comes to croats a lot of my ancestors were brutally murdered at Jasenovac.

EA

pre 9 godina

What fight is talking about? Be a grown up man and accept it openly Kosovo is lost and not for your fault but Milloshevic. I am more than 100 per cent sure that privately, the Serbian polititians accept that BUT haven't got the guts to tell the open truth to its own people. That is the problem. When it comes to the rights of Serbian minority in Kosovo, they should have exactely the same right to Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.
(Daniel, 2 January 2015 19:29)

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is. The reason why paviceic is learning Albanian is because he's an ambassador. The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo of the republic of Kosovo central election Comission. Serbs elected had to swear oaths to the republic of Kosovo. Pantic wouldn't but rakic did. You are wrong on the poll over 50% would vote to join EU and the poll included Kosovo as a country! 7% of Serbs even said Kosovo would join before Serbia.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Money you speend for nonsense better be saving those 180 companys who give jobs to the citizens of serbia just read the news they are going out of the bussines I don't think so anyone is realizing. How many lives are being destroyed from poverty and familys are being separeted trying to flee out of serbia,kosovo etc from selfish people in gouvernments like you.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

@ Ari Gold
"Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership."

I am sorry my friend, but this is only your personal opinion, or at its best, it is the opinion of a minor part of the Serbian population. The fact is that 70% of the Serbian parents, consider Europe as the future for their children. Can Serbia be better off, outside EU??? I don't think so. Looking at the past 20 years (the period of time when Serbian/Yugoslavian politicians decided to do on their own and against Europe and the west) things have not improved for Serbia did they?. Your average income (salary) decreased to 350 Eur/month by November 2014. As an Albanian parent, I would,like the same for my children. And at the same time, I remember the 80's when our leaders told us that Albania dose not need anybody and it will be "the sole lighting lantern of Europe".

On the other hand I have already asked one of my Romanian friend about the benefits of joining EU and I will give you her personal example. She was graduated as a medical doctor in Romania and working in hospital in Frankfurt Germany. Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.
(Peggy, 5 January 2015 11:48)

Well dear Peggy, let me tell you a little bit about my family history. Both my grandpartents fought the Nazi's, and refused to join the Nazi party, even it was oblatory back than. They fought the Nazi's wherever they could, but also had to make sure that their falilies were protected. As a result they both lost their good paying jobs, and were forced to work in jobs way below their qualifications. During the war they were drafted against their will, and that is the last my grandparents and partents saw of them. A few weeks later they were both informed that they had died, no reason given, and their graves were never found, just like the Kosovars that were killed by fascist serbs and whos remains were never found. We think they were killed by the Nazis. My dad was a young teenager at the end of the war, living with the trauma that his dad was killed most likley by the Nazis, and he was drafted a few weeks before the war was over, and thank god he survived the Nazi terror.
I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.

a New day

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
For the 100th time this was never ever offered during any of the talks between Serbia and Kosovo. I challenge you to find one thing from the time to show that this was ever a legitimate offer on the table before the talks. Other than personal blogs which seems to be the choice proof on this site.
Also an explanation of what that means from anyone would be nice. The Taiwan situation is not an example. It is basically what Kosovo and Serbia has today where both deny the others authority with the exception that there are 108 countries that recognize Kosovo.
Also explain how the Albanians might regret not accepting such an offer. How could be subserveant to the Serbs ever be better than being under their own control. The only thing they do not have right now is UN/EU membership and they would not have than under Serbia.
But I would fully support a federation system where Serbia and Kosovo have equal status and would have to be in agreement with any laws and international treaties or agreements. With possibly a rotating chair in the UN.
Do you think Serbs would agree to that?

roberto

pre 9 godina

Same old Milosevic crap. All negotiations with the Belgrade regime should be halted until they recognize Kosova and stop holding the people of Bosnia hostage. The EU has learned nothing from the past, in which case Europe flirts with a repeat of the Serbian-led genocides of the 1990s. It is a very big mistake, and the common people of the Balkans will suffer for it...

@Lazar

pre 9 godina

Why, we can't? So now it's just for Serbians? Nowadays everything is Serbian nowadays... Kosovo je Srbija, Republika Srpska je Srbija, Amerika je Srbija...

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.
(Ilir, 3 January 2015 16:06)

Bravo!!!! there is nothing else to add. Your entire comment makes so much sense. Bravo!!!!

j

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

Yes keep saying this. Join Jovan as well. These NAZI statements really help your cause.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Now stop picking on Peggy. She is a true Serb patriot and is paid by the Serb government to hide Captain Dragan in her basement.

lili

pre 9 godina

Yes,fight continues for your gvt!
OK,let's go on on economic fight this time,because on the ground we know,it's over.
Kosovo is a major market for Serbia: it's time to change this, 'for these little parasites 'born and bred with serbian goods!Not sending our 'dirty albanian'money to serbe will spare us at least 3 milliards,so we must thank Peggy and co to remind us to carry on this economic fight too!

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.
(Daniel, 7 January 2015 00:46)

You do not know anything about western Europe and how Serbs and Kosova-Albaniens are seen here. Both do not have the highest levels of approval, but one thing most certainly sticks out, and that is the war crimes committed in the name of Serbia all over the Balkans. People definitly have not forgotten that anywhere in Europe or America. It is something Serbia has to live with. Well, as you also openly said, you were part of that inhumain criminal gang of people who took part in it and you are even proud of killing innocent people. Shame on you, and you disqualified yourself forever as a person who should be taken seriously.

lili

pre 9 godina

Oh Peggy speaks out what most of serbs think! That 's their problème indeed ,seing others in such old fanatic way and a culturel problème in their éducation! But having academicians like cubrilovic and cosic may be explains this :Peggy and her friends trully believe that others than serbe in balkan are 'undermenschen' as their academicians teachs them...not any critical idéa in here academic formation,conforting me that she's only a serbian'svinja',not supporting albanians parazits that causes here so much trouble!

Brian

pre 9 godina

This is the official website of the republic of kosovo central election commission. http://www.kqz-ks.org/en/home

The visual design of Kosovo on the republic of Kosovo coat of arms is the same as the one on the republic of Kosovo central election Comission.

lili

pre 9 godina

Lazar,We just try to be helpfull to you guy so that you get out of your vicious cercle and face reality about Kosovo!Kosovo ia part of your history just as Belgrade is part of our history ,but you will never rule again Kosovo.So Better admit it and try to have a good life in serbia!

Azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.

Besides talking nonsense how does your living half way around the world improve the economy of near bankrupt serbia?

I suppose if serbs were to squeeze into the pipeing distrubution grid all the hot gases coming out of Ari Gold,Daniel,Ratko,Peggy Sj the self declared financial advisore to bankrupt regimes such as Russia, serbia and Greece....serbia might have some unnatural gas to sell to feed themselves.

Peggy show the world your serb balls and return ,as all criminals inevitably do, to the scene of the crime in our Kosova and continue with you lies.

Kosova must a Law anyone denying the Genocide of Kosovars a Federal Felony subject found guilty mandatory imprisenment and evitual deportation and permanent ban from Kosova.

Ilir@ Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really
(Lazar, 5 January 2015 04:18)

ARE YOU SERIOUS??! We have fought against turks for 500 years. FIVE HUNDRED that is my friend..

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know jour history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters? Thé y were much more important than the albanians in SS division,who were active only du ring winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo ia a blocked zone du ring winter,even more in those tome!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in bbelgrad!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know your history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters in your serbian volunteers corps and your sumadija corps for example? They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division,who were active only during winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo is a blocked zone during winter,even more in those time!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in belgrad! Go and read you 'glorious history' and how your popes gave their benediction for killing jewish people yersterday and muslim people a few years ago!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@True

yes, its always Serbs being sinned against, they never do the sinning themselves. don't worry true (do you call yourself that ironically?), for all the brainwashing your parents may have subjected you to, there's thousands of university students world wide who learn about Srebrenica, and who see for themselves which nation gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. All they have to do is count the number of Serb nationals currently residing in the Hague. we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-)

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's.
For thé jews of Kosovo: none of them was déportés except those of Mitrovica which were under serbian rule du ring ww2:serbian authority of Mitrovica capturer jewish in Mitrovica and gave them to italians authorities 'thèse 'serbian'jews were next transfered from prishtina to belgrade and from belgrade togerman camps.Jews of 'albanian'part of Kosovo then were transfered by albanians population in a SAFER place in albania,even when they were serbian jews..http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/albania.html
As for prishtina camp you should have a look to gavra mandil collection of foto to learn show our SS did treat their jews and have a look to Belgrade fale foto to sée show your SS did treat their jews here http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/result.aspx?SortOrder=&DateToFilter=&DateFromFilter=&TypeFilter=&LocaleFilter=Albania
Israël gave the title of righous nation to albania a few years ago. I think that they know Better than you Daniel about jews extermination in albanian territories!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

conjecture Daniel, all conjecture. you will find swedes/french/germans who despise Albanians as you will find those who despise serbs. however, your people have made it into text books about war crimes, text books which are used in universities. but don't worry daniel you will always have your parents words ringing in your ears

Free

pre 9 godina

Well, we all are very informed with the results of "stopping recognitions" campaigns in the past. It`s goal is to "minimize the losses".

The serbian and albanian politicians know very well that politically Kosovo case is solved. It"s finished. But economically Kosovo is still "under Serbia". Serbia is the main trade partner of Kosovo.

Economy, this is the battlefield now. But this is "a silent battle". It`s kept away from the public eyes (and ears) because it`s a "dirty war".

When UK handed over Hong Kong to China the condition was "unchanged economic system of Hong Kong for 50 years".

a New day

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
Suffer from memory loss long now. If you remember events Serbia held all the cards and Milosevics answer was to rid Kosovo of Albanians first by trying to force them out with starvation,intimidation and oppression by closing all the factories, throwing them out of all state jobs, then closing the schools, hospitals etc. When that did not work and they started to try and defend themselves he used force. It took the big powers to bring that to an end. Serbia only came to the table because the big powers forced them to, and they refused any negotiation. It was after total fruitless negotiations without interference with only a moderator that it was determined talks were hopeless. Because Serbia had NOTHING to lose. UNSC 1244 had stripped Kosovo from Serbia in every way except name, and forcing the Albanians into living in turmoil was the best option Serbs could come up with, as they thought talks would just last forever.
It wasn't until the talks ended and they found out Kosovo was going to unilaterally declare independence and it would be supported by most if not all of the west that the Serbs came up with the slogan of "more than autonmy less than independence" An idea never offered at the tables. Things might be different if they had!

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@Daniel, gerhard and alike

My sympathy is with the Serbs, Americans, Poles etc who fought against the nazis and helped to end their terror and mass murder all over Europe. What you don't see is that Serbia abandoned that fight and betrayed their freedom fighters when Serb nationalism and fascism took over und Milosevic. You show here on a daily basis that you have the same mindset as those nazis your forefathers fought against. You are no better than those mindless killers that came from the country I was borne in, you learned nothing.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"...guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page ..." The ONLY thing Europeans know? what, you mean really ignorant Europeans? dear me what a stupid comment and from a professor as well. it'd be a shame if your students didn't read the above comment and come to realise what tool they have for a professor

roberto

pre 9 godina

A rare moment of honesty from the chetnik terror crowd:
We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.
(Daniel, 6 January 2015 00:47)

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children."

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

getting rather desperate Daniel. let me broaden it for you, people with in inkling for general knowledge, know that the heavenly people gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. students who study international relations, history, politics, law learn about the Hague and those incarcerated there and learn about it in great detail as well as the good deeds of Serbs. but don't worry Daniel, you can always tell garbage to your kids

illyrian lover

pre 9 godina

My dear friends, what fight is it and where is this continued fight taken place? Are these Serbian political baffon leaders delusional?

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.
(Ari Gold, 2 January 2015 20:51)

You are starting to make some sense in the new year, mate :)

That's absolutely correct... As part of the EU membership process Serbia is required to make progress in dealing with corruption and becoming economically competitive: that's the important part. The EU membership is not a goal per se, but the reforms needed to achieve it are.

roberto

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia." willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.(Gerhard, 5 January 2015 17:25)

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...

Andreas

pre 9 godina

we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-) ( Nikolle)

Nikolle, I am a Professor at the University of Amsterdam myself, I 'm Greek, every semester my students are from 65 countries on average because the Programs I teach in are all in English and I guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page in the history in both world wars. And the only thing they know about Albanians (trough the European Press) is that Albania is the biggest producer of criminals in Europe.

I am telling you this without a shred of irony: Dont be isolated, travel a bit and spend some time abroad just to see how the world spins. Too much tee vee and internet can give you the wrong impression about the world.

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,I am glad you have 169 righteous people:may be there's hope for you too to be part of these smart people one day by helping your country in solving the albanians serbian relations and accepte Kosovo independence,but mind in your calcul that jews in serbia were exterminated and jews in albanians were 10 times higher at the end of the war .And please,have a look at gavra mandil's fotos-yes a serbian who was saved by albanians- to sée how jews were treated in albanian and prishtina and how they were treated in Belgrade!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, why would a student that study Biology, Mathematics or Science learn about Srebrenica? Howewer all they have to do to learn about albanian culture and criminality is to go out on a saturday evening or to visit the local prison. At least here in Sweden the prisons are 99.99999% filled with albanians such as yourself.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's. "

So for an SS division you would like to refer to.......drumwirvel...a GERMAN source? I rest my case.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

lilli,

Serbia has 131 rigteous among the nations while Albania have just 69. I guess the Israeli knows best who treated the jews best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Righteous_Among_the_Nations_by_country

lili

pre 9 godina

To daniel again,
You do not know show albanians are traited at all in europe' i am albanian,i live in Paris and i can guarantee you that i am wellcome wherever i go!Europeans are well award that each émigration wave bas it good and bad people because théy have welcomed many nations'' polaks before ww2 in France were thé 'albanians' of that time, than came italians who fullfiled european prisons,then spanish people then yugo people and later albanians... You should read more about émigration in Europe' albanian one is an example of very good intégration: the post ww2 émigration us according to a french study a rare case of success acheiving in tone génération what takes 3 génération for french natives in croosing social barrière and you have not doctors ,profesors,artists-angelin preljocaj is a famous french albanian,lirije begeja a fimmaker,rexhep Mitrovica an actor,etj even in garde ing ,you have one of thé most campus cote d'Azur garden created by an albanian and even diplomats in serbia proper in non albanians ambassy from albanian origjin!- So keep in mind that 'newcomers' are always seen with prejudices,but very quickly integrated as swiss football team proves it! But you may continue believe that albanians are' undermenchen':it doés not bother us at all,we are used to from serbian part,but you will be the one to be surprised-just as it happened in thé kosovar war:you were so sûre albanians are nothing and will have no support!

lili

pre 9 godina

Only in austria ,you have more than 2400 students of albanians origin,idem and even more in Germany and swicerland,not to talk about US and UK!
So continue to believe that we are only prisoners in european jails! Thé wake up will ne harder,

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.

Ilir@ Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really
(Lazar, 5 January 2015 04:18)

ARE YOU SERIOUS??! We have fought against turks for 500 years. FIVE HUNDRED that is my friend..

@Lazar

pre 9 godina

Why, we can't? So now it's just for Serbians? Nowadays everything is Serbian nowadays... Kosovo je Srbija, Republika Srpska je Srbija, Amerika je Srbija...

j

pre 9 godina

Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.
(Peggy, 4 January 2015 21:45)

Yes keep saying this. Join Jovan as well. These NAZI statements really help your cause.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Now stop picking on Peggy. She is a true Serb patriot and is paid by the Serb government to hide Captain Dragan in her basement.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

@Daniel, gerhard and alike

My sympathy is with the Serbs, Americans, Poles etc who fought against the nazis and helped to end their terror and mass murder all over Europe. What you don't see is that Serbia abandoned that fight and betrayed their freedom fighters when Serb nationalism and fascism took over und Milosevic. You show here on a daily basis that you have the same mindset as those nazis your forefathers fought against. You are no better than those mindless killers that came from the country I was borne in, you learned nothing.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.
(Ilir, 3 January 2015 16:06)

Bravo!!!! there is nothing else to add. Your entire comment makes so much sense. Bravo!!!!

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.
(Peggy, 5 January 2015 11:48)

Well dear Peggy, let me tell you a little bit about my family history. Both my grandpartents fought the Nazi's, and refused to join the Nazi party, even it was oblatory back than. They fought the Nazi's wherever they could, but also had to make sure that their falilies were protected. As a result they both lost their good paying jobs, and were forced to work in jobs way below their qualifications. During the war they were drafted against their will, and that is the last my grandparents and partents saw of them. A few weeks later they were both informed that they had died, no reason given, and their graves were never found, just like the Kosovars that were killed by fascist serbs and whos remains were never found. We think they were killed by the Nazis. My dad was a young teenager at the end of the war, living with the trauma that his dad was killed most likley by the Nazis, and he was drafted a few weeks before the war was over, and thank god he survived the Nazi terror.
I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.

lili

pre 9 godina

Oh Peggy speaks out what most of serbs think! That 's their problème indeed ,seing others in such old fanatic way and a culturel problème in their éducation! But having academicians like cubrilovic and cosic may be explains this :Peggy and her friends trully believe that others than serbe in balkan are 'undermenschen' as their academicians teachs them...not any critical idéa in here academic formation,conforting me that she's only a serbian'svinja',not supporting albanians parazits that causes here so much trouble!

lili

pre 9 godina

Yes,fight continues for your gvt!
OK,let's go on on economic fight this time,because on the ground we know,it's over.
Kosovo is a major market for Serbia: it's time to change this, 'for these little parasites 'born and bred with serbian goods!Not sending our 'dirty albanian'money to serbe will spare us at least 3 milliards,so we must thank Peggy and co to remind us to carry on this economic fight too!

Demi

pre 9 godina

Take your time. When you are ready to recognize Kosova you are welcome.

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

What fight did serbia put against Kosova's independence? As ARI said it many times, serbia actually helped Kosova to get there. Clearly not because Serbian government is nice and tomerant, but because they want to become a part of EU. Also the rule of thumb is thia, no one gets to rule and land that never 9 nxe belonged to them. Definitely not if you abused the people that lived there, so by all accounts serbia has lost its right over Kosova centuries ago.

Brian

pre 9 godina

63% of Serbia according to b92 and ipsos say Kosovo is independent. It's not fighting against Kosovo independence to make dejan pavicevic ambassador, border guards and customs agents between Serbia and Kosovo, state meetings with Kosovo leaders, competing in Olympics with Kosovo, telling Kosovo Serbs to vote on republic of Kosovo ballots, agreeing to a country code for phone calls for Kosovo. Where is any opposition to Kosovo independence in Serbia? Who is he trying to please?

Azir

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.

Besides talking nonsense how does your living half way around the world improve the economy of near bankrupt serbia?

I suppose if serbs were to squeeze into the pipeing distrubution grid all the hot gases coming out of Ari Gold,Daniel,Ratko,Peggy Sj the self declared financial advisore to bankrupt regimes such as Russia, serbia and Greece....serbia might have some unnatural gas to sell to feed themselves.

Peggy show the world your serb balls and return ,as all criminals inevitably do, to the scene of the crime in our Kosova and continue with you lies.

Kosova must a Law anyone denying the Genocide of Kosovars a Federal Felony subject found guilty mandatory imprisenment and evitual deportation and permanent ban from Kosova.

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

This "fight," however, "does not prevent the administration in Belgrade or the Serbs in Kosovo to talk with the Kosovo Albanians and implement the agreements that have been reached."

Is this guy for real? Does the Serbian government realizes what is it doing to its citizens? In a time when 70% of the population, requires the future of their children to be in Europe (BETA's late survey), they come up with such stupid statement whose only reasonable expected result is the delay of EU integration for Serbia. I am sure that, the actual Serbian politicians will serve as a reach source for "case studies"in political studies courses.

Captain Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Fight against Kosovo's independence continues"

At least he admits it's independent and they are trying to unravel that independence. It won't work buddy! Lol

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.
(Ari Gold, 2 January 2015 20:51)

You are starting to make some sense in the new year, mate :)

That's absolutely correct... As part of the EU membership process Serbia is required to make progress in dealing with corruption and becoming economically competitive: that's the important part. The EU membership is not a goal per se, but the reforms needed to achieve it are.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

I am Albanian from Kosovo and so proud to be one. I love my country, Republic of Kosova that is. I AM MORE THAN SICK of these stories and the problems that our societies still have in the 21st century for the GOD's sake. We are still fighting for lands when the others are going to the Moon and even Mars. We are both the poorest countries in Europe, we are both the least educated countries in Europe, and we are both the most hated countries in Europe. I have many european friends and I even live away from Kosova and everybody treats our region as the cancer of Europe. LET"S MOVE AHEAD for the GOD's sake. Let this stupidity end. We are independent. We do NOT want to live with Serbia anymore. 95 % of people in Kosova are Albanian and we don't want to live with you.What can you do about that? Milosevic's plan has failed and you know that.I am 22, and I really believe that the new generations will change. I have friends from all around the world, but no Serbians! Why can it be so?Let's stop the hatred, let's be civilised, let's respect each other, let's be good neighbours and let's stop these stupid fights which feel like we are living in the 10th century! Let's stop being the cancer of Europe! We are Balkan, we have such a long history, so many values. I know a lot about Serbian traditions and I really respect those, and we Albanians have also a lot of history ! Let's respect each other. Albania is Albania, Kosovo is Kosovo and Serbia is Serbia! FULLSTOP! PEACE to all.

EA

pre 9 godina

What fight is talking about? Be a grown up man and accept it openly Kosovo is lost and not for your fault but Milloshevic. I am more than 100 per cent sure that privately, the Serbian polititians accept that BUT haven't got the guts to tell the open truth to its own people. That is the problem. When it comes to the rights of Serbian minority in Kosovo, they should have exactely the same right to Albanian minority in Presevo, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.
(Daniel, 2 January 2015 19:29)

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is. The reason why paviceic is learning Albanian is because he's an ambassador. The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo of the republic of Kosovo central election Comission. Serbs elected had to swear oaths to the republic of Kosovo. Pantic wouldn't but rakic did. You are wrong on the poll over 50% would vote to join EU and the poll included Kosovo as a country! 7% of Serbs even said Kosovo would join before Serbia.

illyrian lover

pre 9 godina

My dear friends, what fight is it and where is this continued fight taken place? Are these Serbian political baffon leaders delusional?

lili

pre 9 godina

It is always fun to see how much you learn from History!For centuries you have tried to get rid of albanians in Kosovo and you failed! Even with yu army ...
You are not in position to décide for Kosovo for years,not to speak of the economic cost of jour vain efforts to 'keep' Kosovo!do you remember how much your ex ministers spent travelling all around the world to prevent Kosovo independance? So go on,spend somme more money,by the way have you paid etiopia?

roberto

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia." willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.(Gerhard, 5 January 2015 17:25)

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...

lili

pre 9 godina

Lazar,We just try to be helpfull to you guy so that you get out of your vicious cercle and face reality about Kosovo!Kosovo ia part of your history just as Belgrade is part of our history ,but you will never rule again Kosovo.So Better admit it and try to have a good life in serbia!

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know jour history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters? Thé y were much more important than the albanians in SS division,who were active only du ring winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo ia a blocked zone du ring winter,even more in those tome!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in bbelgrad!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,seems you do not know your history boy:do i need to remember you who was nedic and talk you about serbian SS volunters in your serbian volunteers corps and your sumadija corps for example? They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division,who were active only during winter 44_and as you should know,Kosovo is a blocked zone during winter,even more in those time!
So Daniel,go and read more about sajmiste,banjica and other nazi camps in belgrad! Go and read you 'glorious history' and how your popes gave their benediction for killing jewish people yersterday and muslim people a few years ago!here just a beginning http://www.un.org/en/holocaustremembrance/docs/paper20.shtml

a New day

pre 9 godina

Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
For the 100th time this was never ever offered during any of the talks between Serbia and Kosovo. I challenge you to find one thing from the time to show that this was ever a legitimate offer on the table before the talks. Other than personal blogs which seems to be the choice proof on this site.
Also an explanation of what that means from anyone would be nice. The Taiwan situation is not an example. It is basically what Kosovo and Serbia has today where both deny the others authority with the exception that there are 108 countries that recognize Kosovo.
Also explain how the Albanians might regret not accepting such an offer. How could be subserveant to the Serbs ever be better than being under their own control. The only thing they do not have right now is UN/EU membership and they would not have than under Serbia.
But I would fully support a federation system where Serbia and Kosovo have equal status and would have to be in agreement with any laws and international treaties or agreements. With possibly a rotating chair in the UN.
Do you think Serbs would agree to that?

a New day

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)
Suffer from memory loss long now. If you remember events Serbia held all the cards and Milosevics answer was to rid Kosovo of Albanians first by trying to force them out with starvation,intimidation and oppression by closing all the factories, throwing them out of all state jobs, then closing the schools, hospitals etc. When that did not work and they started to try and defend themselves he used force. It took the big powers to bring that to an end. Serbia only came to the table because the big powers forced them to, and they refused any negotiation. It was after total fruitless negotiations without interference with only a moderator that it was determined talks were hopeless. Because Serbia had NOTHING to lose. UNSC 1244 had stripped Kosovo from Serbia in every way except name, and forcing the Albanians into living in turmoil was the best option Serbs could come up with, as they thought talks would just last forever.
It wasn't until the talks ended and they found out Kosovo was going to unilaterally declare independence and it would be supported by most if not all of the west that the Serbs came up with the slogan of "more than autonmy less than independence" An idea never offered at the tables. Things might be different if they had!

Rebeli

pre 9 godina

@ Ari Gold
"Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership."

I am sorry my friend, but this is only your personal opinion, or at its best, it is the opinion of a minor part of the Serbian population. The fact is that 70% of the Serbian parents, consider Europe as the future for their children. Can Serbia be better off, outside EU??? I don't think so. Looking at the past 20 years (the period of time when Serbian/Yugoslavian politicians decided to do on their own and against Europe and the west) things have not improved for Serbia did they?. Your average income (salary) decreased to 350 Eur/month by November 2014. As an Albanian parent, I would,like the same for my children. And at the same time, I remember the 80's when our leaders told us that Albania dose not need anybody and it will be "the sole lighting lantern of Europe".

On the other hand I have already asked one of my Romanian friend about the benefits of joining EU and I will give you her personal example. She was graduated as a medical doctor in Romania and working in hospital in Frankfurt Germany. Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Money you speend for nonsense better be saving those 180 companys who give jobs to the citizens of serbia just read the news they are going out of the bussines I don't think so anyone is realizing. How many lives are being destroyed from poverty and familys are being separeted trying to flee out of serbia,kosovo etc from selfish people in gouvernments like you.

Brian

pre 9 godina

This is the official website of the republic of kosovo central election commission. http://www.kqz-ks.org/en/home

The visual design of Kosovo on the republic of Kosovo coat of arms is the same as the one on the republic of Kosovo central election Comission.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Until then you can call Kosova goverment provincial and I can call Serbia an province of Kosova.
(Demi, 2 January 2015 15:47)

No you cant because Serbia was never a part of Kosovo but the other way around.

roberto

pre 9 godina

Same old Milosevic crap. All negotiations with the Belgrade regime should be halted until they recognize Kosova and stop holding the people of Bosnia hostage. The EU has learned nothing from the past, in which case Europe flirts with a repeat of the Serbian-led genocides of the 1990s. It is a very big mistake, and the common people of the Balkans will suffer for it...

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children."

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

(Rebeli, 2 January 2015 14:57)

Serbia is never going to join the EU. It can support its own amputation or not, membership will never materalize. Not only for Serbia, but also for the rest of the region. Second of all, the EU is not really in Serbia's economic interests. Ask Bulgaria and Romania how many real benefits there have been for their people since EU membership. The primary benefit is they get to leave their country to go serve tables in northern Europe as richer countries in the EU have to deal with mass immigration.

Dealing with corruption and making Serbia economically competitive is a lot more important than some stupid EU membership which will never actually happen in a million years anyway.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@True

yes, its always Serbs being sinned against, they never do the sinning themselves. don't worry true (do you call yourself that ironically?), for all the brainwashing your parents may have subjected you to, there's thousands of university students world wide who learn about Srebrenica, and who see for themselves which nation gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. All they have to do is count the number of Serb nationals currently residing in the Hague. we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-)

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Brian repeating a lie thousand times doesnt make it true. Dejan Pavicevic is not an ambassador but liasion officer or maybe you can tell me where is the Serbian embassy in Pristina? Serbs did NOT vote on kosovo ballots, there was no insignia at all on those ballots and considering the latest ipsos survey released today more than 80%of the population consider kosovo a part of Serbia and are opposed to EU. Suck on that one liar.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The ballots Serbs voted on had the logo "
Another lie, show me a picture that prooves it? Thats right, you cant just like you neveer proove your ridiculous filthy lies.
A member of the Kosovo Central Election Commission, Goran Zdravković, said that there would be no symbols of the so-called Republic of Kosovo on ballots for the elections of November 3, but only the Central Election Commission’s logo. The words Central Election Commission will be on the left side, written in the Albanian, Serbian and English language, while on the right side the words Local Elections 2013 will be written, specified Zdravković, who is the only Serb in the Central Election Commission. - See more at: http://www.voiceofserbia.org/content/zdravkovi%C4%87-no-disputable-logos-ballots-kosovo-elections#sthash.sCYY60nj.dpuf

Key sentence "no symbols of the so-called republic of kosovo", another lie of that albanian garbage "Brian" crushed.

Free

pre 9 godina

Well, we all are very informed with the results of "stopping recognitions" campaigns in the past. It`s goal is to "minimize the losses".

The serbian and albanian politicians know very well that politically Kosovo case is solved. It"s finished. But economically Kosovo is still "under Serbia". Serbia is the main trade partner of Kosovo.

Economy, this is the battlefield now. But this is "a silent battle". It`s kept away from the public eyes (and ears) because it`s a "dirty war".

When UK handed over Hong Kong to China the condition was "unchanged economic system of Hong Kong for 50 years".

Daniel

pre 9 godina

How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job How do the duties of liaison officer differ from those of an ambassador? Why did Serbia accept an ambassador from Kosovo in the role of liaison officer? It's just a euphamism. Pavicevic's job is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.is ambassador. The embassy is in the eu headquarters in Kosovo. That's where the serbian embassy in Kosovo is.

First he does not have diplomatic status and he is no ambassador, an embassy can never be located in an EU hq and Serbia is not an EU country. Show me the official adress where it says Serbian embassy in Pristina you cunt. Last but not least where does it say that thos 7% were serbs? Just because they are serb citizens doesnt make them serbs, probably were albanian terrorists like yourself. There is a huge difference between liasion officer and ambassador, google is your friend and educate yourself. And I hope that Kosovo join the EU before Serbia just like the majority of us, we dont want anything to do with nor the EU neither you albanians.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!
(Watcher, 2 January 2015 20:55)

It already did happen.

Lazar

pre 9 godina

how can albanians call other people nazis..you formed an SS division in the 1940s ooo 'Kosovos in such a better place' now yehh thats why most of your young men are going off to syria/iraq or vandalising churches with isis graffiti/ harrassing old Serbs real brave bunch you are..enjoy living in poverty im sure albania the drug haven of europe will sort out your economic troubles...or you could always start organ trafficking again?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy the hypocrite: you lecture others but you yourself evaded justice and fled to Australia and married a non serb for citizenship.
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OMG, this is priceless.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet - said by Willi Pfaff

Willi, are you German? I'm only asking because of your German name. If yes, then why don't you focus on NPD, the German Neo-Nazi party that won seats in the Euro Parliament last year? It's clear who are the Nazis in the EU, though I'm not sure who is a bigger Nazi, Udo Voigt or Ankela Merkel. Since you like posting comments, should I send you a bunch of German blogs were Germans discuss about the lack of democracy in Germany?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willi, we serbs have made mistakes believing that you germans have changed when in fact the only thing that has changed are your methods, your goal to rule europe is still the same. A 4th reich is what your aiming for and you are trying to build it with help from your fellow nazi brothers the albs and the croats so thats the reason why on a daily basis I have to show what we think of you so we dont make the same mistake trusting you again. We have only been defending ourselves from albanian savages and croat nazis or maybe you wanted the serbs in krajina to sit and wait and let them finish what their ancestors started in Jasenovac?

We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Only last year she bought an apartment for 400,000 Eur for herself (something that she can never do in Romania).
So tell me if I am wrong, "Isn't mobility of workers a real benefit for us?"
(Rebeli, 3 January 2015 10:23)
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And how does that benefit Romania and the people who have no chance to get the same skills or move out?
She should be in her own country helping her people but instead she only thinks of herself and helps herself.
Well done.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

now if that isn't racist or fascist, than I do not know it. Sounds as if it was copied from a sick Nazi propaganda leaflet.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015
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You would certainly know all about sick Nazi propaganda leaflets. Your grandfather wrote a few of them.

The KRF bros

pre 9 godina

"I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here."
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)

Do you know ANYTHING about the Serbian history, AH? Obviously not, otherwise with a great history like that, you wouldn't dare to be here spreading fascistically your anti-Serbian propaganda.

As for your relationship to fascism, what Germany did to Serbia in 1999 was not exactly a democratic action either. You bombed the entire Private sector which after the war was bought as garbage by German multinationals. Go pretend the democrat peacemaker somewhere else pal, somewhere outside Europe, somewhere where people don't know who Germans are.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Albanian

Saying the "land never belonged to them" is a non starter. Thats what got us Serb & Albanians into this mess..."who's land is it?"
Stop already!
In Krajina, Croatia offered the Serbs in Croatia a deal that the Serbs there can only dream about today.
The Serbs thought that they can do better (such as being part of Serbia), they gambled and lost.
In Kosovo, Serbia offered a Deal (More than Independence, less than autonomy) that I fear the Albanians will wish they had taken.
I don't say this out of spite, but looking ahead at probably will happen.
Big powers selling & trading in their quest to protect their interests before all this political turmoil dust settles.
I'm a firm believer that both Serbs & Albanians need to sit down ALONE and hammer out something they BOTH can live with before it's all decided for them at another table...The big power's table! History tells us this will happen!

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

Haha that's hilarious Marko. I beg to differ that the Serbian government will do its best to defend Serbia's interest in Kosovo. For starters, what ever happened to UNC 1244? Why was that swept under the rug? Ahh yes I forgot, silly me, the resolution allowed Serbian police and troops back into Kosovo, and we surely cant have that because Marko, Dacic, Nikolic and Vucic wouldn't receive their pay checks.

You see Israel (Golan/Gaza), Turkey (Cyprus) and the UK (Falkland Islands) doing everything they can to defend their minorities, yet when Serbs are being slaughtered on a monthly basis, Serbia just barks like a little Chihuahua.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

m pretty sure Serbs dont comment on your news so why are albanians constantly commenting on here?
(Lazar, 4 January 2015 00:40)
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Because they are nothing more than annoying little parasites. They were born and bred for that.

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Willi Pfaff, very touching story. Is this what your parents told you when you were a kid, to make you feel good about your fascistic ancestors?

Democracy is not a one time thing. It takes daily efforts to keep a society democratized. Just because you stopped killing Jews and Christian Europeans it doesn't mean you are democrats. You are and you have always been the number one fascistic scums in Europe. If you want to bully people, like a nice fascist that you are, try to find a Spanish or Greek or Italian blog to do so. And if you want to make new friends online, go to an Austrian, Croatian or Finnish blog to do so because these people are the only ones who have ever liked you, as fascists or not.

PS: I had no intention to keep reading a website about Balkans, but now that I found a nice German like you here...now that changes everything. I guess Serbia doesn't really need to make new friends and allies. As long as Germans don't support Serbs, Serbs can find plenty friends in Europe ;-)

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Willy so let me get this straight, your family was fighting the nazis and you side with the nazi-loving albanians? Need I to remind you that the albanians were 100% with the nazis and even had their own SS divisions? I bet your family members consider you a traitor.

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Where were the albanians when the ottoman armies invaded kosovo? i didnt see you fight the invader? Bet you were all at the sultans feet begging for mercy..at least we stood up for our land, religion and freedom something you albanians gave away without a fight..pathetic really

Daniel

pre 9 godina

They were much more numerous than the albanians in the SS division"

Wtf are you on about? There were no serbian SS division and no serbian volunteers in SS whatsoever, howewer there whas a whole 100% pure ethnic albanian SS dvission Skenderbeg and tens of thousands of other albanian nazi collaborators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX0XZgJi4KU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtAltF3gX9M
The Skanderbeg Division engaged in a policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide against the Serbian Orthodox Christian and Jewish populations of Kosovo-Metohija and the Stara Srbija region. In Kosovo-Metohija, the Skanderbeg Division massacred unarmed Serbian civilians with impunity and indiscriminately in a systematic plan of genocide. The Skanderbeg Division sought to create an ethnically pure Kosovo-Metohija,'Kosova' or 'Kosove', cleansed of Orthodox Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies, the untermenschen (subhumans) rayah targeted for extermination. The Skanderbeg Dision played a role in the Holocaust or Final Solution when, during its occupation of Kosovo-Metohija, it rounded up scores of Kosovo Jews and Orthodox Serbs, persons deemed enemies of the Third Reich, who were subsequently deported to concentration camps.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Willi pfaff

Your sympathy is with the Serbs, you write. Hypocritical and false.

One characteristic of a facist (as you frequently call others) is one who is intolerant.
If you don't like being called a facist, a hypocrite and a liar then be more careful when you reveal your true feelings of intolerance with comments you write such as "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

@ roberto - Got your underwear in a knot when someone is, as you write, 'spying' on your facebook page? A rather sophomoric comment, roberto, even for you.
If you don't want the world to be able to 'spy' - I mean read - your facebook page, then change your privacy settings.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Wow, you and your parents sound like really lovely people. How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

They didnt have to, I have seen with my own eyes what you are capable of being a part of mup back in 98/99 and when it comes to croats a lot of my ancestors were brutally murdered at Jasenovac.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's. "

So for an SS division you would like to refer to.......drumwirvel...a GERMAN source? I rest my case.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

willi pfaff recently stated on his friend roberto's facebook page "nothing good ever came from Serbia."

willi pfaff is the facist here and a hypocrite of major proportion.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, why would a student that study Biology, Mathematics or Science learn about Srebrenica? Howewer all they have to do to learn about albanian culture and criminality is to go out on a saturday evening or to visit the local prison. At least here in Sweden the prisons are 99.99999% filled with albanians such as yourself.

Andreas

pre 9 godina

we're talking about world wide students now, even those in Daniels current country of residence, Sweden :-) ( Nikolle)

Nikolle, I am a Professor at the University of Amsterdam myself, I 'm Greek, every semester my students are from 65 countries on average because the Programs I teach in are all in English and I guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page in the history in both world wars. And the only thing they know about Albanians (trough the European Press) is that Albania is the biggest producer of criminals in Europe.

I am telling you this without a shred of irony: Dont be isolated, travel a bit and spend some time abroad just to see how the world spins. Too much tee vee and internet can give you the wrong impression about the world.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

lilli,

Serbia has 131 rigteous among the nations while Albania have just 69. I guess the Israeli knows best who treated the jews best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Righteous_Among_the_Nations_by_country

Juliette

pre 9 godina

Daniel, Germany was ruled by the SS until late 60s. What Willi says about his fam fighting the Nazis is full of crap, Germans supported the SS in their governments for 20 years after WW-II. This is who Germans are, fascism is in their system. The EU is their 4th Reich, but they will lose that war, just like they lost every other one. Assuming you are Serb, make sure your politicians don't convince you to join the EU. As for Albanians...they are considered the worst criminals in Europe. If Willi loves them so much, he should adopt a few of them and get them to his house. Albania will never join the EU because (a) we will never accept a criminal country unless it decreases its crime rate and (b) by the time Albania does so, the EU will have ceased to exist. As for Willi...he is desperate to convince people to hate another nation, any other nation. He is tired of feeling hated by Europeans. He is tired of not being able to say "I'm proud of being German" or "God bless Germany", just like the rest of us say for our countries. French hate Germans, Dutch hate Germans, Brits hate Germans, Southern Europeans hate Germans, Russians hate Germans, everybody hates Germans. He needs to feel loved for a change, even by Albanians. Try to love him a bit. He needs it.

By the way, I'm sorry for 1999. If Francois Mitterrand was alive, we would side with Greece and stop NATO. And then Italy and Spain would follow. But Mitterrand died in 1996 and France turned into USA's marionette.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I guess with a family history like that I do not have to put up with comments like that, or other fascist BS that is spread around here.
(Willi Pfaff, 5 January 2015 15:19)
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OK, I'll take you at your word and accept that your grandparents fought against the Nazis. Do you know that Serbs fought against the Nazis too so your grandparents and the Serbs were on the same side. The Nazis your grandparents hated so much were Croatians, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians and here you are saying that Serbs are Nazis and the others who your own grandparents, by your own admissions fought.
I think your grandparents are turning in their graves because of what you do now.
If anti Nazi blood runs in your family, then you must be adopted.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Thanks for caring so much about my FB page, Gerhard - I posted yr comment and highlighted yr spying activity ;) Pls keep it up...
(roberto, 5 January 2015 21:43)
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How is it spying if it's in the public domain? Did he hack you FB?
Unless he is lying, you don't have a leg to stand on.

The True HOOHA

pre 9 godina

How did that inculcate that hatred in you? Did they make you throw darts at the Croat & Albanian flag?
(Nikolle, 6 January 2015 14:02)

No, it happened after we were explained about all the crimes Albanians and Croats did to our nation.

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,
For thé SS skenderbeg i préfer to refer to german sources than serbian one's.
For thé jews of Kosovo: none of them was déportés except those of Mitrovica which were under serbian rule du ring ww2:serbian authority of Mitrovica capturer jewish in Mitrovica and gave them to italians authorities 'thèse 'serbian'jews were next transfered from prishtina to belgrade and from belgrade togerman camps.Jews of 'albanian'part of Kosovo then were transfered by albanians population in a SAFER place in albania,even when they were serbian jews..http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/albania.html
As for prishtina camp you should have a look to gavra mandil collection of foto to learn show our SS did treat their jews and have a look to Belgrade fale foto to sée show your SS did treat their jews here http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/result.aspx?SortOrder=&DateToFilter=&DateFromFilter=&TypeFilter=&LocaleFilter=Albania
Israël gave the title of righous nation to albania a few years ago. I think that they know Better than you Daniel about jews extermination in albanian territories!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

conjecture Daniel, all conjecture. you will find swedes/french/germans who despise Albanians as you will find those who despise serbs. however, your people have made it into text books about war crimes, text books which are used in universities. but don't worry daniel you will always have your parents words ringing in your ears

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, as Andreas said that list doesnt even come close to the amount of albanians that fill up the prisons allower Europe and that is something that everyone is very well aware about. In western europe there is nothing lower than being an albanian. Ask a Swede, Greek, Italian, French, Spanish, German and you will see what he will answer you.
(Daniel, 7 January 2015 00:46)

You do not know anything about western Europe and how Serbs and Kosova-Albaniens are seen here. Both do not have the highest levels of approval, but one thing most certainly sticks out, and that is the war crimes committed in the name of Serbia all over the Balkans. People definitly have not forgotten that anywhere in Europe or America. It is something Serbia has to live with. Well, as you also openly said, you were part of that inhumain criminal gang of people who took part in it and you are even proud of killing innocent people. Shame on you, and you disqualified yourself forever as a person who should be taken seriously.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

getting rather desperate Daniel. let me broaden it for you, people with in inkling for general knowledge, know that the heavenly people gave the Nazis closest competition in the war criminals produced list. students who study international relations, history, politics, law learn about the Hague and those incarcerated there and learn about it in great detail as well as the good deeds of Serbs. but don't worry Daniel, you can always tell garbage to your kids

roberto

pre 9 godina

A rare moment of honesty from the chetnik terror crowd:
We will always hate and despice albanians and croats, thats what my parents taught me and thats what I have taught my children.
(Daniel, 6 January 2015 00:47)

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"...guarantee that the only thing Europeans know about Serbia is that Serbia has been on the right page ..." The ONLY thing Europeans know? what, you mean really ignorant Europeans? dear me what a stupid comment and from a professor as well. it'd be a shame if your students didn't read the above comment and come to realise what tool they have for a professor

lili

pre 9 godina

Daniel,I am glad you have 169 righteous people:may be there's hope for you too to be part of these smart people one day by helping your country in solving the albanians serbian relations and accepte Kosovo independence,but mind in your calcul that jews in serbia were exterminated and jews in albanians were 10 times higher at the end of the war .And please,have a look at gavra mandil's fotos-yes a serbian who was saved by albanians- to sée how jews were treated in albanian and prishtina and how they were treated in Belgrade!

lili

pre 9 godina

To daniel again,
You do not know show albanians are traited at all in europe' i am albanian,i live in Paris and i can guarantee you that i am wellcome wherever i go!Europeans are well award that each émigration wave bas it good and bad people because théy have welcomed many nations'' polaks before ww2 in France were thé 'albanians' of that time, than came italians who fullfiled european prisons,then spanish people then yugo people and later albanians... You should read more about émigration in Europe' albanian one is an example of very good intégration: the post ww2 émigration us according to a french study a rare case of success acheiving in tone génération what takes 3 génération for french natives in croosing social barrière and you have not doctors ,profesors,artists-angelin preljocaj is a famous french albanian,lirije begeja a fimmaker,rexhep Mitrovica an actor,etj even in garde ing ,you have one of thé most campus cote d'Azur garden created by an albanian and even diplomats in serbia proper in non albanians ambassy from albanian origjin!- So keep in mind that 'newcomers' are always seen with prejudices,but very quickly integrated as swiss football team proves it! But you may continue believe that albanians are' undermenchen':it doés not bother us at all,we are used to from serbian part,but you will be the one to be surprised-just as it happened in thé kosovar war:you were so sûre albanians are nothing and will have no support!

lili

pre 9 godina

Only in austria ,you have more than 2400 students of albanians origin,idem and even more in Germany and swicerland,not to talk about US and UK!
So continue to believe that we are only prisoners in european jails! Thé wake up will ne harder,