Russian and U.S. envoys comment on OSCE role

As far as Ukraine is concern Serbia should advocate peace and minority rights.UN involvement through UNSC.On Crimea Serbia should take position of neutrality because once Crimea was Russian territory.How Crimea become part of Ukraine does not meet international standards,therefore this should be resolve by Russia and Ukraine.Western Europe should not have say in it.

Lukebuyenovich

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people. Unfortunately the US watch not to allow a peace solution. So I expect 2 possible ways out - restoring the relations either as a result of the economic collapse of Ukraine this year or as a result of a military collapse of the Nazi. Forget about it coz Russia is able to treat this disease.

By the way yesterday there was a big march in the center of Kiev and none of the local media was allowed to report of it. Because it was traditional Hitler type SA-Mann march with flames. They just celebrated 106-th anniversary of Hauptman Bandera awarded with the Iron Cross personally by Fuehrer. Inside the gang they called him БАБА (WOMAN) but now this 48 kg son of a bitch became a hero …

Happy New Year !

We know that Serbia is the Country that now has the chairmanship of the OSCE.

The situation in Ukraine will be mentioned, and there is the matter of Crimea, and Western Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine has their own need for a Mutually Agreed to Compromise,

Obviously, it would be not be Serbia’s place to offer any opinion on that, except that Serbia will want any Compromise to be Mutually Agreed to.

This is why Serbia will set a Good Example with regards to the matter of the Territorial Integrity of Countries, and Ukraine, who is a Fellow Slavic Country, will want Serbia to do More Listening and asking of questions, rather than offering too many suggestions.

This is why the Serbian Government said that Serbia will not recognize the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo, because United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, and Serbia’s Constitution says that Kosovo is a Province of Serbia.

The European Union will want Serbia to mention the More Important Things, such as Ukraine may consider a Trade Deal with the Eurasian Customs Union, and the European Union, because this is what the People of Crimea and the Eastern Ukrainians want, and perhaps a Confederation of Russia and Ukraine may be mentioned, as one way of solving the unique and complex matter of Crimea.

Furthermore, the Ukrainians in the East, along with the People of Crimea want Ukraine to be Militarily Neutral, and they want Ukraine to have a Decentralized and Federalized Constitution.

(rote, 3 January 2015 16:28)
One of us realizes that journalism is just one person reporting something from the viewpoint they want to get across, and that just because it is in print does not mean it is totally accurate. One of us thinks that if it is from a Russian source it is as holy as the Bible.
By the way how is that Ruble doing. Probably ok inside Russia, but I would not plan on traveling anytime soon unless you have a very large pocketbook.

more about the nazi in former ukraine


http://rusvesna.su/english/1420171096

By the way yesterday there was a big march in the center of Kiev and none of the local media was allowed to report of it. Because it was traditional Hitler type SA-Mann march with flames. They just celebrated 106-th anniversary of Hauptman Bandera awarded with the Iron Cross personally by Fuehr…

Happy New Year !
(rote, 2 January 2015 20:50)
Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj.

Can't help but notice that the Russian ambassador is talking the usual stuff one would expect in this case, while the US ambassador is also mentioning operational details about Serbia's preparedness, its cooperation with the previous country, Switzerland. Who seems better informed?

Also, I am excited and can't wait to see the Russian ambassador's comments this year. He likes to call politicians monkeys when they do something he does not like. Watch out Dacic and friends :).

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people. Unfortunately the US watch not to allow a peace solution.
rote

Same people? Russians have a 'kind' way of treating their own. They killed Ukrainians under Stalin and they're killing them under Putin. Some brotherly love.

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people.
(rote, 2 January 2015 20:50)

Yeah, Ukraine is a home affair of the Ukrainian citizens of all ethnicities!

Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj. (just a note, 3 January 2015 02:29)

One of us two knows the truth while the other is just a prisoner of the illusions created by the western media. No TV channel in Ukraine commented the 4000 strong NAZI march. More than that they are going to close INTER TV because they dared to show a Russian New Year TV program where among others 3 forbidden in Ukraine Russian singers took part – ОБЫКНОВЕННЫЙ ФАШИЗМ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZO73Zcr3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd9aymEQtU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-_KGK4Aews

"Just a note" is right.
Media are allowed to cover the story and it can be found. It's only not covered very much. Still, you can find it if you want to.

Here is Euronews coverage of this year's parade in Kiev.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIH7MLkJOA

Or BBC's coverage of last year's parade in honor of Stepan Bandera's birthday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnUdc2fD9pg

Parade is held in Kiev since 2003.

In a past year we had more parades and openly Nazi like you can see from this article from Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180176#.VKc8adLF-gw

Parade glorifying Waffen SS Division will become annual and held on Holocaust Memorial Day.
Many streets in Western Ukraine now have names of Waffen SS Divisions "Galizien", or Ukrainian battalions under direct German command - "Nachtigall" and "Roland". In few places statues of SS- Obergruppenführer Otto Wächter were erected.

In the west of Ukraine SS soldiers are now regularly reburied with honors in presence of state officials...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZATDOZSd88

But, Rote, Just a note is right - it's not hidden.

For those who are not sure who Bandera is you should know that US Holocaust Museum list him and his troops as responsible for murder of some 1/2 million people - Russians, Jews, Roma (Gypsies) but also Poles...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Basically, all non-Ukrainians...

Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj. (just a note, 3 January 2015 02:29)

One of us two knows the truth while the other is just a prisoner of the illusions created by the western media. No TV channel in Ukraine commented the 4000 strong NAZI march. More than that they are going to close INTER TV because they dared to show a Russian New Year TV program where among others 3 forbidden in Ukraine Russian singers took part – ОБЫКНОВЕННЫЙ ФАШИЗМ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZO73Zcr3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd9aymEQtU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-_KGK4Aews

They killed Ukrainians under Stalin and they're killing them under Putin. Some brotherly love. (cry me a river, 4 January 2015 03:59)

As you know the USSR existed 73 years before the CIA was able to destroy it from inside. Out of those 73 years depending on how to count the country was ruled as follows
• By Jewish Lenin - for 5-6 years
• By Ossetian Stalin - for 29-31 years
• By “Ukrainians” Khrushev , Brezhnev and Chernenko – for 30 years
• By Jewish Andropov – for 1-2 years
• By CIA agent Gorby - the rest of the period.
Now tell me about what you are hinting at ? I won’t comment words like “killing them under Putin” because he is the only peacemaker in Ukraine. The west is warmongering today because Putin overplayed them and made them pay for their clients in Kiev while initial American plan was based on Russian financing of the Russophobe regime they brought to power. Now your government is preparing Maidan-3 to overthrow Poroshenko and bring to power Muntian … The collapse is expected in March while the steal of the UE gas will be resumed by the end of January …

The truth about what we, Americans, did to Russia through Ukraine...as revealed by WikiLeaks. http://scgnews.com/leaked-documents-ukraines-new-president-works-for-the-us-state-department

By the way how is that Ruble doing. Probably ok inside Russia, but I would not plan on traveling anytime soon unless you have a very large pocketbook. (just a note, 4 January 2015 18:55)

You remind me a friend of mine calling me once a week from western Ukraine to support me morally. Sure it’s very sentimental when people who have almost guaranteed lower income worry about you but it puts me in an awkward position. I told my friend several times not to read Ukrainian papers and I can tell the same to you. Don’t read Ukrainian/American/European papers. Russian hard currency reserves balance around USD 600 Bln. and we have no budget deficit. Under the current course of Ruble when Russia stopped to buy lots of things that we can do by ourselves it’s a really good sum. To say nothing that in 2013-14 Russia was the number 1 buyer of Gold … there are only two things that I personally care about. They are the oil prices and the 5-th Column of liberasts in the Russian business and the government. But we can cope with it be sure. Otherwise Putin would not enjoy his 83% ratings for so long.

By the way yesterday there was a big march in the center of Kiev and none of the local media was allowed to report of it. Because it was traditional Hitler type SA-Mann march with flames. They just celebrated 106-th anniversary of Hauptman Bandera awarded with the Iron Cross personally by Fuehr…

Happy New Year !
(rote, 2 January 2015 20:50)
Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj.

As far as Ukraine is concern Serbia should advocate peace and minority rights.UN involvement through UNSC.On Crimea Serbia should take position of neutrality because once Crimea was Russian territory.How Crimea become part of Ukraine does not meet international standards,therefore this should be resolve by Russia and Ukraine.Western Europe should not have say in it.

Lukebuyenovich

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people. Unfortunately the US watch not to allow a peace solution. So I expect 2 possible ways out - restoring the relations either as a result of the economic collapse of Ukraine this year or as a result of a military collapse of the Nazi. Forget about it coz Russia is able to treat this disease.

By the way yesterday there was a big march in the center of Kiev and none of the local media was allowed to report of it. Because it was traditional Hitler type SA-Mann march with flames. They just celebrated 106-th anniversary of Hauptman Bandera awarded with the Iron Cross personally by Fuehrer. Inside the gang they called him БАБА (WOMAN) but now this 48 kg son of a bitch became a hero …

Happy New Year !

Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj. (just a note, 3 January 2015 02:29)

One of us two knows the truth while the other is just a prisoner of the illusions created by the western media. No TV channel in Ukraine commented the 4000 strong NAZI march. More than that they are going to close INTER TV because they dared to show a Russian New Year TV program where among others 3 forbidden in Ukraine Russian singers took part – ОБЫКНОВЕННЫЙ ФАШИЗМ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZO73Zcr3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd9aymEQtU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-_KGK4Aews

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people. Unfortunately the US watch not to allow a peace solution.
rote

Same people? Russians have a 'kind' way of treating their own. They killed Ukrainians under Stalin and they're killing them under Putin. Some brotherly love.

more about the nazi in former ukraine


http://rusvesna.su/english/1420171096

We know that Serbia is the Country that now has the chairmanship of the OSCE.

The situation in Ukraine will be mentioned, and there is the matter of Crimea, and Western Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine has their own need for a Mutually Agreed to Compromise,

Obviously, it would be not be Serbia’s place to offer any opinion on that, except that Serbia will want any Compromise to be Mutually Agreed to.

This is why Serbia will set a Good Example with regards to the matter of the Territorial Integrity of Countries, and Ukraine, who is a Fellow Slavic Country, will want Serbia to do More Listening and asking of questions, rather than offering too many suggestions.

This is why the Serbian Government said that Serbia will not recognize the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo, because United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244, and Serbia’s Constitution says that Kosovo is a Province of Serbia.

The European Union will want Serbia to mention the More Important Things, such as Ukraine may consider a Trade Deal with the Eurasian Customs Union, and the European Union, because this is what the People of Crimea and the Eastern Ukrainians want, and perhaps a Confederation of Russia and Ukraine may be mentioned, as one way of solving the unique and complex matter of Crimea.

Furthermore, the Ukrainians in the East, along with the People of Crimea want Ukraine to be Militarily Neutral, and they want Ukraine to have a Decentralized and Federalized Constitution.

Can't help but notice that the Russian ambassador is talking the usual stuff one would expect in this case, while the US ambassador is also mentioning operational details about Serbia's preparedness, its cooperation with the previous country, Switzerland. Who seems better informed?

Also, I am excited and can't wait to see the Russian ambassador's comments this year. He likes to call politicians monkeys when they do something he does not like. Watch out Dacic and friends :).

Ukraine is a home affair of the Russians and the Ukrainians that are in fact one people.
(rote, 2 January 2015 20:50)

Yeah, Ukraine is a home affair of the Ukrainian citizens of all ethnicities!

(rote, 3 January 2015 16:28)
One of us realizes that journalism is just one person reporting something from the viewpoint they want to get across, and that just because it is in print does not mean it is totally accurate. One of us thinks that if it is from a Russian source it is as holy as the Bible.
By the way how is that Ruble doing. Probably ok inside Russia, but I would not plan on traveling anytime soon unless you have a very large pocketbook.

The truth about what we, Americans, did to Russia through Ukraine...as revealed by WikiLeaks. http://scgnews.com/leaked-documents-ukraines-new-president-works-for-the-us-state-department

By the way how is that Ruble doing. Probably ok inside Russia, but I would not plan on traveling anytime soon unless you have a very large pocketbook. (just a note, 4 January 2015 18:55)

You remind me a friend of mine calling me once a week from western Ukraine to support me morally. Sure it’s very sentimental when people who have almost guaranteed lower income worry about you but it puts me in an awkward position. I told my friend several times not to read Ukrainian papers and I can tell the same to you. Don’t read Ukrainian/American/European papers. Russian hard currency reserves balance around USD 600 Bln. and we have no budget deficit. Under the current course of Ruble when Russia stopped to buy lots of things that we can do by ourselves it’s a really good sum. To say nothing that in 2013-14 Russia was the number 1 buyer of Gold … there are only two things that I personally care about. They are the oil prices and the 5-th Column of liberasts in the Russian business and the government. But we can cope with it be sure. Otherwise Putin would not enjoy his 83% ratings for so long.

They killed Ukrainians under Stalin and they're killing them under Putin. Some brotherly love. (cry me a river, 4 January 2015 03:59)

As you know the USSR existed 73 years before the CIA was able to destroy it from inside. Out of those 73 years depending on how to count the country was ruled as follows
• By Jewish Lenin - for 5-6 years
• By Ossetian Stalin - for 29-31 years
• By “Ukrainians” Khrushev , Brezhnev and Chernenko – for 30 years
• By Jewish Andropov – for 1-2 years
• By CIA agent Gorby - the rest of the period.
Now tell me about what you are hinting at ? I won’t comment words like “killing them under Putin” because he is the only peacemaker in Ukraine. The west is warmongering today because Putin overplayed them and made them pay for their clients in Kiev while initial American plan was based on Russian financing of the Russophobe regime they brought to power. Now your government is preparing Maidan-3 to overthrow Poroshenko and bring to power Muntian … The collapse is expected in March while the steal of the UE gas will be resumed by the end of January …

Cover your tracks well, so there is NO way to corroborate your claims as "media were not allowed to" you have learned well from sj. (just a note, 3 January 2015 02:29)

One of us two knows the truth while the other is just a prisoner of the illusions created by the western media. No TV channel in Ukraine commented the 4000 strong NAZI march. More than that they are going to close INTER TV because they dared to show a Russian New Year TV program where among others 3 forbidden in Ukraine Russian singers took part – ОБЫКНОВЕННЫЙ ФАШИЗМ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZO73Zcr3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd9aymEQtU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-_KGK4Aews

"Just a note" is right.
Media are allowed to cover the story and it can be found. It's only not covered very much. Still, you can find it if you want to.

Here is Euronews coverage of this year's parade in Kiev.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIH7MLkJOA

Or BBC's coverage of last year's parade in honor of Stepan Bandera's birthday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnUdc2fD9pg

Parade is held in Kiev since 2003.

In a past year we had more parades and openly Nazi like you can see from this article from Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180176#.VKc8adLF-gw

Parade glorifying Waffen SS Division will become annual and held on Holocaust Memorial Day.
Many streets in Western Ukraine now have names of Waffen SS Divisions "Galizien", or Ukrainian battalions under direct German command - "Nachtigall" and "Roland". In few places statues of SS- Obergruppenführer Otto Wächter were erected.

In the west of Ukraine SS soldiers are now regularly reburied with honors in presence of state officials...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZATDOZSd88

But, Rote, Just a note is right - it's not hidden.

For those who are not sure who Bandera is you should know that US Holocaust Museum list him and his troops as responsible for murder of some 1/2 million people - Russians, Jews, Roma (Gypsies) but also Poles...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Basically, all non-Ukrainians...