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Ukraine abolishes military neutrality law

The Ukrainian parliament on Tuesday adopted a law on the abolition of the country's military neutrality, and on initiating efforts to join NATO.

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icj1

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)

Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!
(a New day, 27 December 2014 16:20)

Yes, but they can be proud to live in the world's largest economy - that mental satisfaction makes hunger go away :)

a New day

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)
Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!

sj

pre 9 godina

(balkanico, 26 December 2014 12:48)

This is the response you get when they don’t know what to say but have this desperate urge to make a comment trying to pick out a fault in a statement. On a question like this you would need to write a thesis to explain the entire process and considering you only have 1500 words on this site that’s impossible.
No lad that’s not true. China has been a rising power since Deng Xiaoping changed China’s course in the early 1980s. China’s double digit economy is only a very recent phenomena, in fact some dispute the figures since the Chinese use a different method of calculation meaning that 10% growth was really 8% etc.
The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.

balkanico

pre 9 godina

Sj wrote:

"Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power (...)."

Does this mean it was only four years ago it dawned upon you that China was a rising economic power?

China has been running double-digit growth since the early 90-ies. Realising only in 2010 that China was and is a rising economic power is not exactly something to be bragging about, let alone reveal in public.

sj

pre 9 godina

don't think your opinions can get any stupider sj.
(Nikolle, 26 December 2014 10:53)

Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power and I was met with its economically backward and it would take 100 years to surpass the US and yet not one has ever visited China. Well now that western TV tells it like it is they have changed their minds.
You will also note that China lends money to the US and other western counties.
Then there is the business of Russia going into recession because of western sanctions and falling oil prices also due to US manipulation.
I asked many times what were these special sanctions? No one knows what they are. Then out comes that Saudi Arabia is responsible for the oil but not against Russia as it involves another agenda.
I then ask if Russia is going into recession in 2015 why is Japan in recession now and Germany and Australia are on the brink of going into recession? Surely the US does not have sanctions on them? No reply.
Yes I can see how it would appear stupid to you and your ilk.

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 December 2014 03:46)
The CTC is at it again. Passing on his vast experience in nothing. Keep you day job otherwise you would starve as an analyst.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner (formerly the Albo Einstein promoted to Chief Toilet Cleaner)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL????
(sj, 25 December 2014 20:05)

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 11:42)

"Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line?
It the same method mate. Whereever the US gets invovled its the same method. Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL???? The vast majority of Ukranians know that a chnage of governemt would not chnage their lives so why would they go out on the streets?
I could have told you it was $30 and what could have you done? Nothing. You had no proof either way. Unlike you I am honest.
Oh naturally everyone is lying about Tito’s generosity to the Albos.
I didnt use LOL until I had to sink to the Albanina level where nearly 100% of posters are either semi literate or downright stupid.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

This is what the US is up to in the Ukraine. Most Americans have no idea what is going on.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Three-Members-of-Congress-by-Dennis-Kucinich-Congress_Congress-House-Legislation_Sanctions_Ukraine-141216-784.html

"...In its dealings with the European Union, Ukraine could not even get concessions for its citizens to find work throughout Europe. The West does not care about Ukraine, or its people, except for using them to seize a strategic advantage against Russia in the geopolitical game of nations."

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

replace that good with that deluded and you're there sj. curious though to know how we get from "Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line? when did that bridge get crossed? but its good that little by little you're facade is unmasking, not that it needs much for that. as for this "While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop." i have no idea what it is that I'm expected to say to a very obviously erroneous statement. it very obviously isn't literally true, so the only thing that I can guess is that you meant it as a metaphor. for what, i genuinely don't know. also, why on earth do you use LOL? isn't that something only teenagers use?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 00:21)
Well, well you mean I’m that good that you keep my posting eh? I’m flattered to say the least. Psst it was only a throwaway line I have no idea what they paid, but I can tell you they did not spend millions printing pamphlets.
You must be s*** yourself to keep a record of my postings. It’s always hard to explain to simpletons like you how these things work with politicians since you think that the “people kick them out or vote them in” LOL. You don’t have any idea that it’s the rich and powerful that pull all the strings and the compliant media tell you who or what to vote for. Now why hasn’t Merkel placed more sanctions on Russia????? Come on answer the question?????
While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The Ukraine protests are organised by the EU/US. Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30 Euro per day with a midday meal and transport to and from the venue."
(sj, 11 February 2014 12:04)

B92 article: "Bosniak presidency member "won't resign"

don't worry sj, my memory is pretty good, its just you've been telling so many porky pies you can't keep up. now tell me, when will these German industrialists get rid of Merkel?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah the EU/US spent millions on printing pamphlets to change government in Ukraine.
No I alleged nothing in Ukraine I only mentioned Serbia in 1994, so much for your excellent memory LOL. Don’t worry here is another reminder – it was 20 Euros in 1994.
Then why doesn’t Merkel place more sanctions on Russia????? Oh I do apologise Germany exports very little to Russia.

pss

pre 9 godina

I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting,
(sj, 24 December 2014 12:27)
# Comment link
And was that before or after you time as the amazing Batman? You seem to know a lot about cleaning toilets, does your info come from personal training?
And I always thought you were a bank teller at some Malaysian bank.
Don't understand your misplaced feeling of superiority over Albanians, apparently they can see through your shams.
Wow in the middle of this devastating recession, Serbia is announcing a 750 million dollar donation from the collapsed economy of Japan.
As far as the restroom cleaners or pizza makers you want to look down your nose at, these are honest hardworking people whose goal in life is to provide for their family. I would a hundred times rather sit down to a table with one of them than someone who has embellished their self worth and told so many lies that they cannot distinguish between which is true and that which is not, such as yourself.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994"

oh no no sj, that's a different b.....t story. This $30.00 paid to protesters in ukraine was alleged by you, another one no one can corroborate. I appreciate that you've written so much garbage that you can't keep, but you're in luck, I have excellent memory and can remind you of all of them if I need to. now tell me, what has happened to the murmurs of Merkels downfall?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:10)

Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994.
I agree that Albos are too fragile creatures and they don’t believe that the world economies are interconnected simply because they still use quills and ink and don’t even have electricity to run a media site so they hang around ours. And the German economy is not very reliant on Russia, why I’m making it up as I go along just like I said that Japan is in recession.
I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting, but you would have only seen the inside by cleaning the restrooms. You live in Kosova via the internet and talk s***.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.
===========================
Ridiculous.
Do you know the diffrence between fact and theory?
If people choose to believe in theory it doesn't make it fact.
I am referring to facts.

pizza meister

pre 9 godina

"nikolle why don't you just say that you are proud to be an internet troll?"

would i win a prize for it?
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 19:29)

Yes. The Count of Kosova as an escort to a disco of your choice.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.

Wonderful thing the human mind. Full of invention.

It's like religion. Something that is a supposition gets elevated to the level of belief, then belief brings a false sense of certainty, so making mere supposition be treated as if it is fact.

Conspiracies theories usually imply intentionality on the part of some hidden or higher power. Actually, many of the things that become the subject of conspiracy theories are incidental, accidental or just arise from some stupidity, ignorance or misunderstanding on the part of 'higher powers'.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)
============================
Can you give us an example of which ones you are talking about?
Everythig negative about this move I can think of is not a conspiracy theory but fact.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tha fantasist sj at it again. From Serbia is a strategically important place to Merkel being overthrown, the garbage stories and scenarios put forward by the alleged I-have-set-in-many-important-board-meetings sj. Not once have you forwarded any of your sources of inforamtion, like Ukranians paid $30.00 to go out and protest and get shot at and killed. The latest scoop from you, unhappy German industrialists plotting Merkel's downfall. I only read your garbage for my amusement, I shouldn't as you obviously suffer from FPP but with you I can't help it. Now tell the latest scoop on Argentinian bonds

sj

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)

Note the air of superiority of the Albanian analyst who is a cleaner during the day and an adviser to Obama at night,

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

I was watching a news item on British TV this evening, it was about English school children who had sent "shoe boxes" filled with gifts to poor Romanians. The Romanians who received these presents were dirt poor and lived in conditions not unlike the poor in India or Africa. If I am not mistaken, Romania is in Europe and is a member of both the EU and NATO. What will become of the Ukraine if it joins the EU and NATO? Will it become rich and democratic? If the plight of other Eastern European EU members is any guide, then the future of the Ukraine is very black indeed.

T

pre 9 godina

Right move wrong timing.
Ukraine should have waited till some sort of truce had been established, then they should have shored up its borders, maybe then it would have been the correct time to announce some kind of cooperation with NATO.
This premature move will make the 'bear' even fiercer and peace time may now be even further away.

sj

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)

Note the air of superiority of the Albanian analyst who is a cleaner during the day and an adviser to Obama at night,

pizza meister

pre 9 godina

"nikolle why don't you just say that you are proud to be an internet troll?"

would i win a prize for it?
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 19:29)

Yes. The Count of Kosova as an escort to a disco of your choice.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)
============================
Can you give us an example of which ones you are talking about?
Everythig negative about this move I can think of is not a conspiracy theory but fact.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

I was watching a news item on British TV this evening, it was about English school children who had sent "shoe boxes" filled with gifts to poor Romanians. The Romanians who received these presents were dirt poor and lived in conditions not unlike the poor in India or Africa. If I am not mistaken, Romania is in Europe and is a member of both the EU and NATO. What will become of the Ukraine if it joins the EU and NATO? Will it become rich and democratic? If the plight of other Eastern European EU members is any guide, then the future of the Ukraine is very black indeed.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 11:42)

"Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line?
It the same method mate. Whereever the US gets invovled its the same method. Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL???? The vast majority of Ukranians know that a chnage of governemt would not chnage their lives so why would they go out on the streets?
I could have told you it was $30 and what could have you done? Nothing. You had no proof either way. Unlike you I am honest.
Oh naturally everyone is lying about Tito’s generosity to the Albos.
I didnt use LOL until I had to sink to the Albanina level where nearly 100% of posters are either semi literate or downright stupid.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:10)

Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994.
I agree that Albos are too fragile creatures and they don’t believe that the world economies are interconnected simply because they still use quills and ink and don’t even have electricity to run a media site so they hang around ours. And the German economy is not very reliant on Russia, why I’m making it up as I go along just like I said that Japan is in recession.
I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting, but you would have only seen the inside by cleaning the restrooms. You live in Kosova via the internet and talk s***.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah the EU/US spent millions on printing pamphlets to change government in Ukraine.
No I alleged nothing in Ukraine I only mentioned Serbia in 1994, so much for your excellent memory LOL. Don’t worry here is another reminder – it was 20 Euros in 1994.
Then why doesn’t Merkel place more sanctions on Russia????? Oh I do apologise Germany exports very little to Russia.

T

pre 9 godina

Right move wrong timing.
Ukraine should have waited till some sort of truce had been established, then they should have shored up its borders, maybe then it would have been the correct time to announce some kind of cooperation with NATO.
This premature move will make the 'bear' even fiercer and peace time may now be even further away.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.
===========================
Ridiculous.
Do you know the diffrence between fact and theory?
If people choose to believe in theory it doesn't make it fact.
I am referring to facts.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 00:21)
Well, well you mean I’m that good that you keep my posting eh? I’m flattered to say the least. Psst it was only a throwaway line I have no idea what they paid, but I can tell you they did not spend millions printing pamphlets.
You must be s*** yourself to keep a record of my postings. It’s always hard to explain to simpletons like you how these things work with politicians since you think that the “people kick them out or vote them in” LOL. You don’t have any idea that it’s the rich and powerful that pull all the strings and the compliant media tell you who or what to vote for. Now why hasn’t Merkel placed more sanctions on Russia????? Come on answer the question?????
While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

This is what the US is up to in the Ukraine. Most Americans have no idea what is going on.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Three-Members-of-Congress-by-Dennis-Kucinich-Congress_Congress-House-Legislation_Sanctions_Ukraine-141216-784.html

"...In its dealings with the European Union, Ukraine could not even get concessions for its citizens to find work throughout Europe. The West does not care about Ukraine, or its people, except for using them to seize a strategic advantage against Russia in the geopolitical game of nations."

pss

pre 9 godina

I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting,
(sj, 24 December 2014 12:27)
# Comment link
And was that before or after you time as the amazing Batman? You seem to know a lot about cleaning toilets, does your info come from personal training?
And I always thought you were a bank teller at some Malaysian bank.
Don't understand your misplaced feeling of superiority over Albanians, apparently they can see through your shams.
Wow in the middle of this devastating recession, Serbia is announcing a 750 million dollar donation from the collapsed economy of Japan.
As far as the restroom cleaners or pizza makers you want to look down your nose at, these are honest hardworking people whose goal in life is to provide for their family. I would a hundred times rather sit down to a table with one of them than someone who has embellished their self worth and told so many lies that they cannot distinguish between which is true and that which is not, such as yourself.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tha fantasist sj at it again. From Serbia is a strategically important place to Merkel being overthrown, the garbage stories and scenarios put forward by the alleged I-have-set-in-many-important-board-meetings sj. Not once have you forwarded any of your sources of inforamtion, like Ukranians paid $30.00 to go out and protest and get shot at and killed. The latest scoop from you, unhappy German industrialists plotting Merkel's downfall. I only read your garbage for my amusement, I shouldn't as you obviously suffer from FPP but with you I can't help it. Now tell the latest scoop on Argentinian bonds

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994"

oh no no sj, that's a different b.....t story. This $30.00 paid to protesters in ukraine was alleged by you, another one no one can corroborate. I appreciate that you've written so much garbage that you can't keep, but you're in luck, I have excellent memory and can remind you of all of them if I need to. now tell me, what has happened to the murmurs of Merkels downfall?

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 December 2014 03:46)
The CTC is at it again. Passing on his vast experience in nothing. Keep you day job otherwise you would starve as an analyst.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner (formerly the Albo Einstein promoted to Chief Toilet Cleaner)

sj

pre 9 godina

don't think your opinions can get any stupider sj.
(Nikolle, 26 December 2014 10:53)

Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power and I was met with its economically backward and it would take 100 years to surpass the US and yet not one has ever visited China. Well now that western TV tells it like it is they have changed their minds.
You will also note that China lends money to the US and other western counties.
Then there is the business of Russia going into recession because of western sanctions and falling oil prices also due to US manipulation.
I asked many times what were these special sanctions? No one knows what they are. Then out comes that Saudi Arabia is responsible for the oil but not against Russia as it involves another agenda.
I then ask if Russia is going into recession in 2015 why is Japan in recession now and Germany and Australia are on the brink of going into recession? Surely the US does not have sanctions on them? No reply.
Yes I can see how it would appear stupid to you and your ilk.

sj

pre 9 godina

(balkanico, 26 December 2014 12:48)

This is the response you get when they don’t know what to say but have this desperate urge to make a comment trying to pick out a fault in a statement. On a question like this you would need to write a thesis to explain the entire process and considering you only have 1500 words on this site that’s impossible.
No lad that’s not true. China has been a rising power since Deng Xiaoping changed China’s course in the early 1980s. China’s double digit economy is only a very recent phenomena, in fact some dispute the figures since the Chinese use a different method of calculation meaning that 10% growth was really 8% etc.
The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.

Wonderful thing the human mind. Full of invention.

It's like religion. Something that is a supposition gets elevated to the level of belief, then belief brings a false sense of certainty, so making mere supposition be treated as if it is fact.

Conspiracies theories usually imply intentionality on the part of some hidden or higher power. Actually, many of the things that become the subject of conspiracy theories are incidental, accidental or just arise from some stupidity, ignorance or misunderstanding on the part of 'higher powers'.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The Ukraine protests are organised by the EU/US. Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30 Euro per day with a midday meal and transport to and from the venue."
(sj, 11 February 2014 12:04)

B92 article: "Bosniak presidency member "won't resign"

don't worry sj, my memory is pretty good, its just you've been telling so many porky pies you can't keep up. now tell me, when will these German industrialists get rid of Merkel?

balkanico

pre 9 godina

Sj wrote:

"Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power (...)."

Does this mean it was only four years ago it dawned upon you that China was a rising economic power?

China has been running double-digit growth since the early 90-ies. Realising only in 2010 that China was and is a rising economic power is not exactly something to be bragging about, let alone reveal in public.

a New day

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)
Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!

icj1

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)

Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!
(a New day, 27 December 2014 16:20)

Yes, but they can be proud to live in the world's largest economy - that mental satisfaction makes hunger go away :)

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

replace that good with that deluded and you're there sj. curious though to know how we get from "Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line? when did that bridge get crossed? but its good that little by little you're facade is unmasking, not that it needs much for that. as for this "While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop." i have no idea what it is that I'm expected to say to a very obviously erroneous statement. it very obviously isn't literally true, so the only thing that I can guess is that you meant it as a metaphor. for what, i genuinely don't know. also, why on earth do you use LOL? isn't that something only teenagers use?

icj1

pre 9 godina

Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL????
(sj, 25 December 2014 20:05)

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

T

pre 9 godina

Right move wrong timing.
Ukraine should have waited till some sort of truce had been established, then they should have shored up its borders, maybe then it would have been the correct time to announce some kind of cooperation with NATO.
This premature move will make the 'bear' even fiercer and peace time may now be even further away.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tha fantasist sj at it again. From Serbia is a strategically important place to Merkel being overthrown, the garbage stories and scenarios put forward by the alleged I-have-set-in-many-important-board-meetings sj. Not once have you forwarded any of your sources of inforamtion, like Ukranians paid $30.00 to go out and protest and get shot at and killed. The latest scoop from you, unhappy German industrialists plotting Merkel's downfall. I only read your garbage for my amusement, I shouldn't as you obviously suffer from FPP but with you I can't help it. Now tell the latest scoop on Argentinian bonds

Bob

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.

Wonderful thing the human mind. Full of invention.

It's like religion. Something that is a supposition gets elevated to the level of belief, then belief brings a false sense of certainty, so making mere supposition be treated as if it is fact.

Conspiracies theories usually imply intentionality on the part of some hidden or higher power. Actually, many of the things that become the subject of conspiracy theories are incidental, accidental or just arise from some stupidity, ignorance or misunderstanding on the part of 'higher powers'.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994"

oh no no sj, that's a different b.....t story. This $30.00 paid to protesters in ukraine was alleged by you, another one no one can corroborate. I appreciate that you've written so much garbage that you can't keep, but you're in luck, I have excellent memory and can remind you of all of them if I need to. now tell me, what has happened to the murmurs of Merkels downfall?

pss

pre 9 godina

I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting,
(sj, 24 December 2014 12:27)
# Comment link
And was that before or after you time as the amazing Batman? You seem to know a lot about cleaning toilets, does your info come from personal training?
And I always thought you were a bank teller at some Malaysian bank.
Don't understand your misplaced feeling of superiority over Albanians, apparently they can see through your shams.
Wow in the middle of this devastating recession, Serbia is announcing a 750 million dollar donation from the collapsed economy of Japan.
As far as the restroom cleaners or pizza makers you want to look down your nose at, these are honest hardworking people whose goal in life is to provide for their family. I would a hundred times rather sit down to a table with one of them than someone who has embellished their self worth and told so many lies that they cannot distinguish between which is true and that which is not, such as yourself.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The Ukraine protests are organised by the EU/US. Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30 Euro per day with a midday meal and transport to and from the venue."
(sj, 11 February 2014 12:04)

B92 article: "Bosniak presidency member "won't resign"

don't worry sj, my memory is pretty good, its just you've been telling so many porky pies you can't keep up. now tell me, when will these German industrialists get rid of Merkel?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

replace that good with that deluded and you're there sj. curious though to know how we get from "Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line? when did that bridge get crossed? but its good that little by little you're facade is unmasking, not that it needs much for that. as for this "While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop." i have no idea what it is that I'm expected to say to a very obviously erroneous statement. it very obviously isn't literally true, so the only thing that I can guess is that you meant it as a metaphor. for what, i genuinely don't know. also, why on earth do you use LOL? isn't that something only teenagers use?

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

I was watching a news item on British TV this evening, it was about English school children who had sent "shoe boxes" filled with gifts to poor Romanians. The Romanians who received these presents were dirt poor and lived in conditions not unlike the poor in India or Africa. If I am not mistaken, Romania is in Europe and is a member of both the EU and NATO. What will become of the Ukraine if it joins the EU and NATO? Will it become rich and democratic? If the plight of other Eastern European EU members is any guide, then the future of the Ukraine is very black indeed.

sj

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)

Note the air of superiority of the Albanian analyst who is a cleaner during the day and an adviser to Obama at night,

Peggy

pre 9 godina

cue the conspiracies in 3.....2.....1.......
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 14:19)
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Can you give us an example of which ones you are talking about?
Everythig negative about this move I can think of is not a conspiracy theory but fact.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL????
(sj, 25 December 2014 20:05)

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Peggy

All conspiracy theories are facts to those that chose to believe them.
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Ridiculous.
Do you know the diffrence between fact and theory?
If people choose to believe in theory it doesn't make it fact.
I am referring to facts.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:10)

Yes it fantasy as usual. No its 20 Euros not $30 mate. You can’t even get that right. Remember its 20 Euros in 1994.
I agree that Albos are too fragile creatures and they don’t believe that the world economies are interconnected simply because they still use quills and ink and don’t even have electricity to run a media site so they hang around ours. And the German economy is not very reliant on Russia, why I’m making it up as I go along just like I said that Japan is in recession.
I have been to boardrooms although not as a director just simply reporting, but you would have only seen the inside by cleaning the restrooms. You live in Kosova via the internet and talk s***.

sj

pre 9 godina

don't think your opinions can get any stupider sj.
(Nikolle, 26 December 2014 10:53)

Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power and I was met with its economically backward and it would take 100 years to surpass the US and yet not one has ever visited China. Well now that western TV tells it like it is they have changed their minds.
You will also note that China lends money to the US and other western counties.
Then there is the business of Russia going into recession because of western sanctions and falling oil prices also due to US manipulation.
I asked many times what were these special sanctions? No one knows what they are. Then out comes that Saudi Arabia is responsible for the oil but not against Russia as it involves another agenda.
I then ask if Russia is going into recession in 2015 why is Japan in recession now and Germany and Australia are on the brink of going into recession? Surely the US does not have sanctions on them? No reply.
Yes I can see how it would appear stupid to you and your ilk.

balkanico

pre 9 godina

Sj wrote:

"Naturally my comments would be stupid to you and the less intelligent. I argued for the last 4 years that China was a rising economic power (...)."

Does this mean it was only four years ago it dawned upon you that China was a rising economic power?

China has been running double-digit growth since the early 90-ies. Realising only in 2010 that China was and is a rising economic power is not exactly something to be bragging about, let alone reveal in public.

sj

pre 9 godina

(balkanico, 26 December 2014 12:48)

This is the response you get when they don’t know what to say but have this desperate urge to make a comment trying to pick out a fault in a statement. On a question like this you would need to write a thesis to explain the entire process and considering you only have 1500 words on this site that’s impossible.
No lad that’s not true. China has been a rising power since Deng Xiaoping changed China’s course in the early 1980s. China’s double digit economy is only a very recent phenomena, in fact some dispute the figures since the Chinese use a different method of calculation meaning that 10% growth was really 8% etc.
The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.

pizza meister

pre 9 godina

"nikolle why don't you just say that you are proud to be an internet troll?"

would i win a prize for it?
(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 19:29)

Yes. The Count of Kosova as an escort to a disco of your choice.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah the EU/US spent millions on printing pamphlets to change government in Ukraine.
No I alleged nothing in Ukraine I only mentioned Serbia in 1994, so much for your excellent memory LOL. Don’t worry here is another reminder – it was 20 Euros in 1994.
Then why doesn’t Merkel place more sanctions on Russia????? Oh I do apologise Germany exports very little to Russia.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 11:42)

"Its a fact that if you join the prostests you get $30" to it was a throwaway line?
It the same method mate. Whereever the US gets invovled its the same method. Are you that stupid to beleive that you would get thousands in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy LOL???? The vast majority of Ukranians know that a chnage of governemt would not chnage their lives so why would they go out on the streets?
I could have told you it was $30 and what could have you done? Nothing. You had no proof either way. Unlike you I am honest.
Oh naturally everyone is lying about Tito’s generosity to the Albos.
I didnt use LOL until I had to sink to the Albanina level where nearly 100% of posters are either semi literate or downright stupid.

sj

pre 9 godina

Oh, yeah, that's absolutely correct... People following the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sk would never get in the streets becasue of freedom and democracy. It's a shame though that there are not enough people followin the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 December 2014 03:46)
The CTC is at it again. Passing on his vast experience in nothing. Keep you day job otherwise you would starve as an analyst.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner (formerly the Albo Einstein promoted to Chief Toilet Cleaner)

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 25 December 2014 00:21)
Well, well you mean I’m that good that you keep my posting eh? I’m flattered to say the least. Psst it was only a throwaway line I have no idea what they paid, but I can tell you they did not spend millions printing pamphlets.
You must be s*** yourself to keep a record of my postings. It’s always hard to explain to simpletons like you how these things work with politicians since you think that the “people kick them out or vote them in” LOL. You don’t have any idea that it’s the rich and powerful that pull all the strings and the compliant media tell you who or what to vote for. Now why hasn’t Merkel placed more sanctions on Russia????? Come on answer the question?????
While you’re there you do recall I asked about Tito being a godfather to every Albanian child in Kosovo. I’m awaiting the denial, chop chop.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

This is what the US is up to in the Ukraine. Most Americans have no idea what is going on.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Three-Members-of-Congress-by-Dennis-Kucinich-Congress_Congress-House-Legislation_Sanctions_Ukraine-141216-784.html

"...In its dealings with the European Union, Ukraine could not even get concessions for its citizens to find work throughout Europe. The West does not care about Ukraine, or its people, except for using them to seize a strategic advantage against Russia in the geopolitical game of nations."

a New day

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)
Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!

icj1

pre 9 godina

The term 4 years is probably more like 6 years and that is the period Albanians have been posting on this site declaring that my statements about China were wrong and in fact China is a backward country. Its only very recently or since western media had to admit that China is a world economic powerhouse that we do not get statements to the contrary.
(sj, 26 December 2014 21:01)

Of course many try to cast the view away from the fact that there are nearly 1 billion people living in poverty in this super rich country!
(a New day, 27 December 2014 16:20)

Yes, but they can be proud to live in the world's largest economy - that mental satisfaction makes hunger go away :)