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Friday, 19.12.2014.

10:54

"Serbia should become Albania's ally"

Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama sayst Serbia "should become an ally of Albania, in order for the people in the Balkans to find peace."

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Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

We Serbs dont want you Albanians as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.
(Daniel, 20 December 2014 14:12)

Daniel,
If you feel that way then don't expect to be welcome in Kosovo. You had better make plans to leave Kosovo permanently or you might get help from your neighbors to do so.

sj

pre 9 godina

(azir, 24 December 2014 17:13)

Please Serbs note the Albanian linguist, bla bla bla. This fellow must have been on the school debating team with such a proficiency in English.
Stick to goat herding azir.

azir

pre 9 godina

Sj and other Serb ignorants use, or should i say, mis use opinions for "facts".

The sj is full of it and doesn't know when to stop embarassing him....

I love beating Serbs over the head with the TRUTH.
(my definition of internationaly recognized facts)
and not sj's nonsense "just ask anyone bla bla bla"

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 12:22)
English is not a second language for me as it is for you because anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact.
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit????

sj

pre 9 godina

@sj
Just wow .Pass on the pipe ,what are you smoking ?
(beni, 24 December 2014 01:53)

I like my Pizza with lots of peperoni and don’t be late. I don’t smoke so tick to what you good at and it the delivery job

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

Its either that your comprehension skills are very poor, or that your assertion that Albos never paid for anything can't be corroborated. Personally I think its both. Never paid for any utilities means they never received any bills. It isn't true no matter how often you type it. But please, prove me wrong if you can. You can't

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 10:31)
Naturally its utter nonsense that the State paid for those bills and naturally that the people in the old Yugoslavia never had a day’s pay set aside to help an underdeveloped region like Kosovo. No one ever helped the Albos.
Anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact except the Albos who swear that they did it all themselves, eh sunshine?
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit???? What I made that up too eh???

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sunshine, you claimed that no Albanian ever paid for utility bills in holy Kosmet during Tito. Their bills I'm guessing would have been subsidized by the state. That is total and utter nonsense. At no point has it EVER been the case, but its not the first time you come up with garbage that you end up believing. now tell me, where is it that you read/heard that Albos, as you so call us, did not pay for water, electricity, heating, animal welfare...(what else do you want to put in the list?). prove me wrong sunshine, if you read it somewhere all you have to do is tell me where

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:02)
Yes everyone makes things up except the Albos. It’s all fantasy because it’s not written in a book (it also depends whether your Albos can read). Gees if that 20 Euro business is all you think have on me after posting for the last 6 years then you’re rather thin on the ground much like you’re intellect.
For your edification Tito devoted very large proportions of the Yugoslavia’s budget for development of Kosovo and it was a common occurrence for people to work on a Saturday and that money was earmarked for the development of Kosovo, but maybe I’m making this up too.
I note there is no comment on the Godfather issue or is that another part of my imagination?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle if you ever lived in Yugoslavia you wouldnt have to ask that question. Kosovo, as the most impoverished part of SFRJ, received billions of money from the other republics, mostly from Serbia, that was used to pay for the utilities. These money were not specifically for the albanians but benefited all of the population in Kosovo but still dont act like you dont know what sj is talking about. You know very well its true unless you are too young to remember.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

So go ahead and prove me wrong. Where did you read that rubbish? Do you know why you won't tell me, because you didn't read it anywhere, you made it up, like that €20.00 garbage

Reader

pre 9 godina

"and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo."
(sj, 22 December 2014 23:09)


Beautiful! Keep the BS coming, it is so funny :).

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Its always imagination when facts come out." What facts? Like 20 Euros's in 1994 fact? You've been caught with your pants down before, there are no facts when you type, only fantasy.
"It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water" Common knowledge to whom? This must be in a book somewhere, so give me the title of the book you read it in and I will see what it says. At no point in Tito's era or any other Yugoslav era was such a thing in place. Its your fantasy coming to the fore again. You have now taken to believing your own stupidity.
"Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up." and even if this were tre (it isn't) you won't to clean up anything, so enjoy fantasising about it

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
I have been to Yugoslavia many times between 1970 and 1989 including Kosovo and during Tito’s times Albos got utilities for free and as I have already mentioned every tenth child Tito was the “godfather”.
I was born in Australia whereas you migrated to the west and now are “more Catholic than the Pope” despite working for $7.25 per hour.
Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
LOL. Its always imagination when facts come out. In the west you paid for utilities but in Kosovo and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo. It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water and became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo. I was born in Australia unlike you who was settles in Kosovo.
How many industries have the west opened in Kosova again?????????

j

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.
(Jovan, 22 December 2014 15:42)

Thank you. You make the NAZI's proud. Please post more post like these.

Jovan

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikole, 21 December 2014 11:38)

Well you’re going to kiss the heavenly arse if your lot are going to get any work because I don’t see anyone opening a can of beer let alone industry in Kosova. And Bob is right Tito did pour large sums of money into Kosovo because during that time Albanians did not pay for electricity or water and the fat leader became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sj

your imagination taking the better of you again, kinda like the 20 EURO's in 1994. I don't remember not having to pay for electricity at any point in my life. you wouldn't know what happened in holy Kosmet during Tito, you were settled in the warm bosom of Australia. and if you tell me you read in a book, I'd like to know which book it was, because no book that I have read on Kosovo has ever insinuated Albanians got utilities for free

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
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Actually, the US is in partnership with Al Qaeda. They are trying to hide this but haven't been very successful. They are in partnership with all Islamic radicals. Tried to overthrow the governments in all countries using Al Qaeda but thank God they were not successful in Egypt and now their pets have gone rabid in Syria so they have to try to curb their ways a little.
Now, why doesn't Albanian become Serbia's ally instead? That would be productive.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.
(cry me a river, 20 December 2014 17:25)

Yeah it sure shows a lot of class when they started to attack the serbian player that brought down a flag that doesnt belong on a football field. Thats why they were attacked by the way.

Nikole

pre 9 godina

@Bob

and who the hell are you to qualify who deserves a state and who doesn't? I remember now, you told me once your friends in Mitrovica had opened a shop and received no albanian clientele and chalked it off to discrimination. If that had happened to me, I'd have thought my products were lousy, but that's just me. However much Kosova stinks today and it does stink, the stench was still fouler when the heavenly people ruled roost. not only was it fouler, it was toxic. This is what your ilk fails to get. Oh, and i like how you equate Tito's Yugoslavia with Serbs, as if the two things were related.

boom

pre 9 godina

I dont know if one can trust the politicians but from what he says, Rama gets it.
I dare dream of a world of peace where serbs and albanians can cooperate to build a better future together instead of living in mutual hate and bragging to each other who has the bigger dick.

Azir

pre 9 godina

Ari why do you assume Yugoslavia's assistance to Kosova meant only Serbia's tax dinars were used?
Did your conveniently not mention all the non -Serb Yugoslav contributions?

What about all that exploitation of indigenous Kosovar natural resources such as the Trepca Mines that funded Belgrade's development?
Remember the fear Serbs had when the natives when on strike during the early 1980's ?
Belgrade Budget was in crisis and fear of lost mine revenue......

Why we're Serbs so desperate and dependent on Kosova when according to you they were so "poor"?
There is a saying in Albanian and that is lies have short legs.

Your nonsense and lieing is easily exposed.

Sumadinac

pre 9 godina

"Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.
(Kosovar Albanian, 20 December 2014 00:07)"

Some respect they show their Serb minority when they can't even get the spelling of "Dobro došli" right...

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population.
(Ari Gold, 19 December 2014 17:58)

I see... So, what's your point? That Serbia is much better off with Kosovo not being part of it?

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.
(Albo Troll Wrangler

People like you are easily manipulated. But, I won't go there today. It won't help you. Everyone saw what happened at the game. 30,000 'brave' chetniks were screaming ...well, you know what they were saying. About 20 Albanian soccer players were braver than your 30,000 including your elected officials and your security forces. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir the coward: "Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality."

azir - On this site you openly applaud the barbaric pogroms conducted by the Croatian Nazi Ustasha, yet in the next breath you call for the de-nazification of Serbia. Do you read what you write before pressing send on your keyboard? Not only are you a coward, your are dumb! HA, HA!

Bob

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold often talks rubbish, but on this occasion I agree with him 100%.

Kosovo received disproportionate aid under Tito, but there is no gratitude from Albanians towards Serbs for their contribution.

On the contrary, Albabians were ethnically cleansing Serbs for years before Milosevic.

Kosovo does not deserve to be a separate state - it is founded on the digging up of Serb graveyards. It stinks.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

First the same way goes for you Albanians that need to apologize for those horrendous crimes and atrocities you committed upon civilian serbs, murders, harrassment, burning of churches and monesterys. Second we dont want you as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.

G-smakt

pre 9 godina

50% of the UN but not 50% of the world's population I think you'll find Mr.Rama. And whilst we are on the subject of inaccuracies that little mention of ethnic cleansing was just another bit of historic revisionism.He knows as well as everyone else that they left on NATO's orders so they could bomb Serb positions. Hogwash from a washed out politician.

eric

pre 9 godina

how can you be an ally with uncivilized society like serbs, they are russians, they just want to expand and still territories and want to create a mini russia in europe, is not going to happened

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
(So sad, too bad, 19 December 2014 15:05)
wich century you are living?? how old you are? how well you really know the history betwen serbs and albanians ? do you have any strong prove to back up your story one party did to other party only ?, please sentence by sentence( not BS street talks as cheap cake factory or fairy tails) you know we live in 21 century and truth and lies are just a clck a way if you have a international browser on you computer not something made Milosevic era browser so you can't get of its fairy tails borders, and yes terrible crimes happen in ex yougoslavia but no one is saying you to forget but one thing for sure in this life is, yesterday was a thursday dec 17 2014 and in are life time it will never come a again same day... better days always are a head if you think by morning to make it happen...

Kosovar Albanian

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold,

Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I'm sure Rama meant well by his comment, but as usual it's hard to understand statements coming from Albanian officials when they try to talk with their feet in their mouths.

It's even more difficult to understand the meaning when statements are not previously scripted from and rehearsed with US officials.

Still, it's a major improvement from the days of Sali Berisha, where everything that ruined his day was due to a conspiracy by "Jews and faggots".

With a little more practice, Rama can sound as scripted and predictable as his buddy Hash. He's only been in power for a year, so grant him that handicap.

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, blablablablablablablablablabla
(Rocky, 19 December 2014 12:51)

Here you go Mr. Cimaj. You've earned it.

http://i.imgur.com/vt7ssUD.jpg

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

OK enough is enough. I have to admit I am American. I was raised to believe that my country was always right and that Americans formed NATO to protect themselves and their allies. Now I'm old enough to know the truth. USA is the biggest war criminal in the history of the world. We pretend to be peacemakers and we tell ourselves that the only reason we intervene in a war between two other countries is to save the population of one of the two countries. In reality all we care about is control the ebergy reserves and build as many NATO Bases as possible close to Russia. We bomb EVERYONE. We kill children and women. Our soldiers raped Muslims in Kosovo and Somalia and we refused to punish them. We allow Afghani drug dealers to smuggle drugs in Europe and USA just because they help us exterminate terrorists. We pay a sh**t load of dollars to destroy governments in Middle East and convince their nations they need to democratize their societies. Once they start a revolution, we impose a new dictator on them, one that we can control. Europeans dislike us, everywhere you go in Europe you listen to European negative comments about us. But we are allies whether they like it or not. I hate Russia, because it's the biggest oil and gas provider in the EU, this is why the EU is not willing to do exactly what we ask them to. I hate Serbia, too. The Balkan countries are of great strategic importance to us and Serbia ruins our plans.

European

pre 9 godina

kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.
(Dardani, 19 December 2014 13:05)

No, those words are almost entirely associated with you. 100 years of being Europe's biggest black hole of crime, poverty, misery, and intolerance. Isn't it telling that wherever the Albanian lives, the lowest standards of living follow?

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.

BklynAlbo

pre 9 godina

@ So sad, too bad

Hmmm...Nazis were not friends with Jews, but Germany is one of Israel's strongest allies today and Jews are thriving in Germany once again. The United States nuked Japan, yet today they're allies. Germany, France, and Britain are getting along and only argue about money and trade by and large.

You know why that happened? The war was over and the parties CHOSE to make and keep peace instead.

If other countries have overcome nasty pasts (far worse than Serbia & Kosovo have ever experienced), so can Serbia and Kosovo and Albania and Greece and Macedonia...provided they are led by "traitor" leaders rather than armchair "patriots" such as you and your Albo counterparts.

I am Albanian and as far as I'm concerned, Rama was right...Serbia should be an ally of Albania and of course Albania should be an ally of Serbia...with Kosovo acting as the glue.

Like it or not, Serbs and Albanians are more similar to each other than they want to admit.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

It's going to be very hard for Albanians to trust Serbia again in the near future. Serbia's terror upon Albanians goes back centuries. First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking. Of course, there are a lot of moderate Serbs who understand better but there are too many who don't and they seem to be holding Serbia hostage.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???
(Albanian, 19 December 2014 12:26)

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population. This was for a few decades mind you. Since the war, billions from Western governments and NGO's have flooded Kosovo-Metohija in post-conflict aid, and where has it all gone? That's the problem, you've received so much assistance and still continue to be poor. Why is that?

Watcher

pre 9 godina

Looking at history...both Albanian & Croatian background is infested with support with the "wrong" players in history...I think this is the reason that they are so insecure with Serbia. Serbia ALWAYS stood up to "world powers that wanted to dictate. VERY proud & resistent people..yes, stubborn also.
Not trying to be sarcastic here...just what I see.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada in Plymouth,Minnesota,U.S.A.

pre 9 godina

Is it possible that some Kosovar-Albanians may brand Rama a traitor for considering or contemplating that Albania form an alliance with Serbia?If I figured it out correctly Albania & Kosovo are like brother or sister nations to one another, aren't they? In fact some of us would tend to assume that Albania is Kosovo's best friend or true friend and that Albania would have Kosovo's "back covered" so to speak.

So sad, too bad

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality.

Friendship is not automatic, it must be earned.

Kosova Recognition is fist step....

Then compensation for all of slave Serb "kindness"...

Serbia needs our friendship more than we need theirs.

I strongly recommend punishment first then peace.

Dardani

pre 9 godina

Rama the only words that srbs wont take for ,,provokacije"" are kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

Albanian prime minister says it, and Serbs call it "Provokacija". Most of Serbias friends also say it to serbia directly or indirectly, it is not called "Provokacija". How does this make sense to Serbs it is beyond anyone's comprehension. Rama is calling for peace, not war, and Serbs might be upset about it because they are not used to getting along with anyone just look at their past history. Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, 2nd, Kosova should be removed from Serbia's constitution as it was put there by Vojislav Kostunica and his radical ultranationalist party only within the last decade, this is un-democratic, un-European and un-civilized, as it lays a extremist and radical type of claim to Kosova's territory and sovereignty, a sovereignty which is recognized by a majority of the UN members! Serbia must first prove herself as being a rehabilitated country, one that has indeed embraced the values and laws of the democratic world before she can be a true partner! We are all living witnesses, to the chaos and turmoil that extremist and radicals have inflicted to the middleast, and we must not allow Serbia to employ this ideology to Europe!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

He reiterated his view that "the reality is that Kosovo is independent, because it has been recognized by more than half of the UN. member countries.."

Never heard that definition of independence. I thought the declaration already made Kosovo independent? No, the reality is that Kosovo is a disputed territory with a similar status like South Ossetia, Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, Palestine...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

He reiterated his view that "the reality is that Kosovo is independent, because it has been recognized by more than half of the UN. member countries.."

Never heard that definition of independence. I thought the declaration already made Kosovo independent? No, the reality is that Kosovo is a disputed territory with a similar status like South Ossetia, Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, Palestine...

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, 2nd, Kosova should be removed from Serbia's constitution as it was put there by Vojislav Kostunica and his radical ultranationalist party only within the last decade, this is un-democratic, un-European and un-civilized, as it lays a extremist and radical type of claim to Kosova's territory and sovereignty, a sovereignty which is recognized by a majority of the UN members! Serbia must first prove herself as being a rehabilitated country, one that has indeed embraced the values and laws of the democratic world before she can be a true partner! We are all living witnesses, to the chaos and turmoil that extremist and radicals have inflicted to the middleast, and we must not allow Serbia to employ this ideology to Europe!

So sad, too bad

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality.

Friendship is not automatic, it must be earned.

Kosova Recognition is fist step....

Then compensation for all of slave Serb "kindness"...

Serbia needs our friendship more than we need theirs.

I strongly recommend punishment first then peace.

Albanian

pre 9 godina

Albanian prime minister says it, and Serbs call it "Provokacija". Most of Serbias friends also say it to serbia directly or indirectly, it is not called "Provokacija". How does this make sense to Serbs it is beyond anyone's comprehension. Rama is calling for peace, not war, and Serbs might be upset about it because they are not used to getting along with anyone just look at their past history. Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???

Dardani

pre 9 godina

Rama the only words that srbs wont take for ,,provokacije"" are kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

Looking at history...both Albanian & Croatian background is infested with support with the "wrong" players in history...I think this is the reason that they are so insecure with Serbia. Serbia ALWAYS stood up to "world powers that wanted to dictate. VERY proud & resistent people..yes, stubborn also.
Not trying to be sarcastic here...just what I see.

Kosovar Albanian

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold,

Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

It's going to be very hard for Albanians to trust Serbia again in the near future. Serbia's terror upon Albanians goes back centuries. First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking. Of course, there are a lot of moderate Serbs who understand better but there are too many who don't and they seem to be holding Serbia hostage.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???
(Albanian, 19 December 2014 12:26)

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population. This was for a few decades mind you. Since the war, billions from Western governments and NGO's have flooded Kosovo-Metohija in post-conflict aid, and where has it all gone? That's the problem, you've received so much assistance and still continue to be poor. Why is that?

European

pre 9 godina

kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.
(Dardani, 19 December 2014 13:05)

No, those words are almost entirely associated with you. 100 years of being Europe's biggest black hole of crime, poverty, misery, and intolerance. Isn't it telling that wherever the Albanian lives, the lowest standards of living follow?

BklynAlbo

pre 9 godina

@ So sad, too bad

Hmmm...Nazis were not friends with Jews, but Germany is one of Israel's strongest allies today and Jews are thriving in Germany once again. The United States nuked Japan, yet today they're allies. Germany, France, and Britain are getting along and only argue about money and trade by and large.

You know why that happened? The war was over and the parties CHOSE to make and keep peace instead.

If other countries have overcome nasty pasts (far worse than Serbia & Kosovo have ever experienced), so can Serbia and Kosovo and Albania and Greece and Macedonia...provided they are led by "traitor" leaders rather than armchair "patriots" such as you and your Albo counterparts.

I am Albanian and as far as I'm concerned, Rama was right...Serbia should be an ally of Albania and of course Albania should be an ally of Serbia...with Kosovo acting as the glue.

Like it or not, Serbs and Albanians are more similar to each other than they want to admit.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir the coward: "Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality."

azir - On this site you openly applaud the barbaric pogroms conducted by the Croatian Nazi Ustasha, yet in the next breath you call for the de-nazification of Serbia. Do you read what you write before pressing send on your keyboard? Not only are you a coward, your are dumb! HA, HA!

Sumadinac

pre 9 godina

"Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.
(Kosovar Albanian, 20 December 2014 00:07)"

Some respect they show their Serb minority when they can't even get the spelling of "Dobro došli" right...

Daniel

pre 9 godina

First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

First the same way goes for you Albanians that need to apologize for those horrendous crimes and atrocities you committed upon civilian serbs, murders, harrassment, burning of churches and monesterys. Second we dont want you as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.

j

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.
(Jovan, 22 December 2014 15:42)

Thank you. You make the NAZI's proud. Please post more post like these.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I'm sure Rama meant well by his comment, but as usual it's hard to understand statements coming from Albanian officials when they try to talk with their feet in their mouths.

It's even more difficult to understand the meaning when statements are not previously scripted from and rehearsed with US officials.

Still, it's a major improvement from the days of Sali Berisha, where everything that ruined his day was due to a conspiracy by "Jews and faggots".

With a little more practice, Rama can sound as scripted and predictable as his buddy Hash. He's only been in power for a year, so grant him that handicap.

eric

pre 9 godina

how can you be an ally with uncivilized society like serbs, they are russians, they just want to expand and still territories and want to create a mini russia in europe, is not going to happened

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.
(Albo Troll Wrangler

People like you are easily manipulated. But, I won't go there today. It won't help you. Everyone saw what happened at the game. 30,000 'brave' chetniks were screaming ...well, you know what they were saying. About 20 Albanian soccer players were braver than your 30,000 including your elected officials and your security forces. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population.
(Ari Gold, 19 December 2014 17:58)

I see... So, what's your point? That Serbia is much better off with Kosovo not being part of it?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sj

your imagination taking the better of you again, kinda like the 20 EURO's in 1994. I don't remember not having to pay for electricity at any point in my life. you wouldn't know what happened in holy Kosmet during Tito, you were settled in the warm bosom of Australia. and if you tell me you read in a book, I'd like to know which book it was, because no book that I have read on Kosovo has ever insinuated Albanians got utilities for free

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Its always imagination when facts come out." What facts? Like 20 Euros's in 1994 fact? You've been caught with your pants down before, there are no facts when you type, only fantasy.
"It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water" Common knowledge to whom? This must be in a book somewhere, so give me the title of the book you read it in and I will see what it says. At no point in Tito's era or any other Yugoslav era was such a thing in place. Its your fantasy coming to the fore again. You have now taken to believing your own stupidity.
"Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up." and even if this were tre (it isn't) you won't to clean up anything, so enjoy fantasising about it

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.

G-smakt

pre 9 godina

50% of the UN but not 50% of the world's population I think you'll find Mr.Rama. And whilst we are on the subject of inaccuracies that little mention of ethnic cleansing was just another bit of historic revisionism.He knows as well as everyone else that they left on NATO's orders so they could bomb Serb positions. Hogwash from a washed out politician.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold often talks rubbish, but on this occasion I agree with him 100%.

Kosovo received disproportionate aid under Tito, but there is no gratitude from Albanians towards Serbs for their contribution.

On the contrary, Albabians were ethnically cleansing Serbs for years before Milosevic.

Kosovo does not deserve to be a separate state - it is founded on the digging up of Serb graveyards. It stinks.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.
(cry me a river, 20 December 2014 17:25)

Yeah it sure shows a lot of class when they started to attack the serbian player that brought down a flag that doesnt belong on a football field. Thats why they were attacked by the way.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
=======================================
Actually, the US is in partnership with Al Qaeda. They are trying to hide this but haven't been very successful. They are in partnership with all Islamic radicals. Tried to overthrow the governments in all countries using Al Qaeda but thank God they were not successful in Egypt and now their pets have gone rabid in Syria so they have to try to curb their ways a little.
Now, why doesn't Albanian become Serbia's ally instead? That would be productive.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

OK enough is enough. I have to admit I am American. I was raised to believe that my country was always right and that Americans formed NATO to protect themselves and their allies. Now I'm old enough to know the truth. USA is the biggest war criminal in the history of the world. We pretend to be peacemakers and we tell ourselves that the only reason we intervene in a war between two other countries is to save the population of one of the two countries. In reality all we care about is control the ebergy reserves and build as many NATO Bases as possible close to Russia. We bomb EVERYONE. We kill children and women. Our soldiers raped Muslims in Kosovo and Somalia and we refused to punish them. We allow Afghani drug dealers to smuggle drugs in Europe and USA just because they help us exterminate terrorists. We pay a sh**t load of dollars to destroy governments in Middle East and convince their nations they need to democratize their societies. Once they start a revolution, we impose a new dictator on them, one that we can control. Europeans dislike us, everywhere you go in Europe you listen to European negative comments about us. But we are allies whether they like it or not. I hate Russia, because it's the biggest oil and gas provider in the EU, this is why the EU is not willing to do exactly what we ask them to. I hate Serbia, too. The Balkan countries are of great strategic importance to us and Serbia ruins our plans.

Nikole

pre 9 godina

@Bob

and who the hell are you to qualify who deserves a state and who doesn't? I remember now, you told me once your friends in Mitrovica had opened a shop and received no albanian clientele and chalked it off to discrimination. If that had happened to me, I'd have thought my products were lousy, but that's just me. However much Kosova stinks today and it does stink, the stench was still fouler when the heavenly people ruled roost. not only was it fouler, it was toxic. This is what your ilk fails to get. Oh, and i like how you equate Tito's Yugoslavia with Serbs, as if the two things were related.

Jovan

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.

Reader

pre 9 godina

"and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo."
(sj, 22 December 2014 23:09)


Beautiful! Keep the BS coming, it is so funny :).

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada in Plymouth,Minnesota,U.S.A.

pre 9 godina

Is it possible that some Kosovar-Albanians may brand Rama a traitor for considering or contemplating that Albania form an alliance with Serbia?If I figured it out correctly Albania & Kosovo are like brother or sister nations to one another, aren't they? In fact some of us would tend to assume that Albania is Kosovo's best friend or true friend and that Albania would have Kosovo's "back covered" so to speak.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
(So sad, too bad, 19 December 2014 15:05)
wich century you are living?? how old you are? how well you really know the history betwen serbs and albanians ? do you have any strong prove to back up your story one party did to other party only ?, please sentence by sentence( not BS street talks as cheap cake factory or fairy tails) you know we live in 21 century and truth and lies are just a clck a way if you have a international browser on you computer not something made Milosevic era browser so you can't get of its fairy tails borders, and yes terrible crimes happen in ex yougoslavia but no one is saying you to forget but one thing for sure in this life is, yesterday was a thursday dec 17 2014 and in are life time it will never come a again same day... better days always are a head if you think by morning to make it happen...

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, blablablablablablablablablabla
(Rocky, 19 December 2014 12:51)

Here you go Mr. Cimaj. You've earned it.

http://i.imgur.com/vt7ssUD.jpg

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikole, 21 December 2014 11:38)

Well you’re going to kiss the heavenly arse if your lot are going to get any work because I don’t see anyone opening a can of beer let alone industry in Kosova. And Bob is right Tito did pour large sums of money into Kosovo because during that time Albanians did not pay for electricity or water and the fat leader became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

So go ahead and prove me wrong. Where did you read that rubbish? Do you know why you won't tell me, because you didn't read it anywhere, you made it up, like that €20.00 garbage

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sunshine, you claimed that no Albanian ever paid for utility bills in holy Kosmet during Tito. Their bills I'm guessing would have been subsidized by the state. That is total and utter nonsense. At no point has it EVER been the case, but its not the first time you come up with garbage that you end up believing. now tell me, where is it that you read/heard that Albos, as you so call us, did not pay for water, electricity, heating, animal welfare...(what else do you want to put in the list?). prove me wrong sunshine, if you read it somewhere all you have to do is tell me where

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

Its either that your comprehension skills are very poor, or that your assertion that Albos never paid for anything can't be corroborated. Personally I think its both. Never paid for any utilities means they never received any bills. It isn't true no matter how often you type it. But please, prove me wrong if you can. You can't

Azir

pre 9 godina

Ari why do you assume Yugoslavia's assistance to Kosova meant only Serbia's tax dinars were used?
Did your conveniently not mention all the non -Serb Yugoslav contributions?

What about all that exploitation of indigenous Kosovar natural resources such as the Trepca Mines that funded Belgrade's development?
Remember the fear Serbs had when the natives when on strike during the early 1980's ?
Belgrade Budget was in crisis and fear of lost mine revenue......

Why we're Serbs so desperate and dependent on Kosova when according to you they were so "poor"?
There is a saying in Albanian and that is lies have short legs.

Your nonsense and lieing is easily exposed.

sj

pre 9 godina

@sj
Just wow .Pass on the pipe ,what are you smoking ?
(beni, 24 December 2014 01:53)

I like my Pizza with lots of peperoni and don’t be late. I don’t smoke so tick to what you good at and it the delivery job

azir

pre 9 godina

Sj and other Serb ignorants use, or should i say, mis use opinions for "facts".

The sj is full of it and doesn't know when to stop embarassing him....

I love beating Serbs over the head with the TRUTH.
(my definition of internationaly recognized facts)
and not sj's nonsense "just ask anyone bla bla bla"

sj

pre 9 godina

(azir, 24 December 2014 17:13)

Please Serbs note the Albanian linguist, bla bla bla. This fellow must have been on the school debating team with such a proficiency in English.
Stick to goat herding azir.

boom

pre 9 godina

I dont know if one can trust the politicians but from what he says, Rama gets it.
I dare dream of a world of peace where serbs and albanians can cooperate to build a better future together instead of living in mutual hate and bragging to each other who has the bigger dick.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 12:22)
English is not a second language for me as it is for you because anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact.
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit????

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

We Serbs dont want you Albanians as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.
(Daniel, 20 December 2014 14:12)

Daniel,
If you feel that way then don't expect to be welcome in Kosovo. You had better make plans to leave Kosovo permanently or you might get help from your neighbors to do so.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle if you ever lived in Yugoslavia you wouldnt have to ask that question. Kosovo, as the most impoverished part of SFRJ, received billions of money from the other republics, mostly from Serbia, that was used to pay for the utilities. These money were not specifically for the albanians but benefited all of the population in Kosovo but still dont act like you dont know what sj is talking about. You know very well its true unless you are too young to remember.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 10:31)
Naturally its utter nonsense that the State paid for those bills and naturally that the people in the old Yugoslavia never had a day’s pay set aside to help an underdeveloped region like Kosovo. No one ever helped the Albos.
Anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact except the Albos who swear that they did it all themselves, eh sunshine?
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit???? What I made that up too eh???

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
LOL. Its always imagination when facts come out. In the west you paid for utilities but in Kosovo and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo. It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water and became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo. I was born in Australia unlike you who was settles in Kosovo.
How many industries have the west opened in Kosova again?????????

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
I have been to Yugoslavia many times between 1970 and 1989 including Kosovo and during Tito’s times Albos got utilities for free and as I have already mentioned every tenth child Tito was the “godfather”.
I was born in Australia whereas you migrated to the west and now are “more Catholic than the Pope” despite working for $7.25 per hour.
Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:02)
Yes everyone makes things up except the Albos. It’s all fantasy because it’s not written in a book (it also depends whether your Albos can read). Gees if that 20 Euro business is all you think have on me after posting for the last 6 years then you’re rather thin on the ground much like you’re intellect.
For your edification Tito devoted very large proportions of the Yugoslavia’s budget for development of Kosovo and it was a common occurrence for people to work on a Saturday and that money was earmarked for the development of Kosovo, but maybe I’m making this up too.
I note there is no comment on the Godfather issue or is that another part of my imagination?

azir

pre 9 godina

Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality.

Friendship is not automatic, it must be earned.

Kosova Recognition is fist step....

Then compensation for all of slave Serb "kindness"...

Serbia needs our friendship more than we need theirs.

I strongly recommend punishment first then peace.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

He reiterated his view that "the reality is that Kosovo is independent, because it has been recognized by more than half of the UN. member countries.."

Never heard that definition of independence. I thought the declaration already made Kosovo independent? No, the reality is that Kosovo is a disputed territory with a similar status like South Ossetia, Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, Palestine...

Albanian

pre 9 godina

Albanian prime minister says it, and Serbs call it "Provokacija". Most of Serbias friends also say it to serbia directly or indirectly, it is not called "Provokacija". How does this make sense to Serbs it is beyond anyone's comprehension. Rama is calling for peace, not war, and Serbs might be upset about it because they are not used to getting along with anyone just look at their past history. Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, 2nd, Kosova should be removed from Serbia's constitution as it was put there by Vojislav Kostunica and his radical ultranationalist party only within the last decade, this is un-democratic, un-European and un-civilized, as it lays a extremist and radical type of claim to Kosova's territory and sovereignty, a sovereignty which is recognized by a majority of the UN members! Serbia must first prove herself as being a rehabilitated country, one that has indeed embraced the values and laws of the democratic world before she can be a true partner! We are all living witnesses, to the chaos and turmoil that extremist and radicals have inflicted to the middleast, and we must not allow Serbia to employ this ideology to Europe!

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

It's going to be very hard for Albanians to trust Serbia again in the near future. Serbia's terror upon Albanians goes back centuries. First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking. Of course, there are a lot of moderate Serbs who understand better but there are too many who don't and they seem to be holding Serbia hostage.

So sad, too bad

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

OK enough is enough. I have to admit I am American. I was raised to believe that my country was always right and that Americans formed NATO to protect themselves and their allies. Now I'm old enough to know the truth. USA is the biggest war criminal in the history of the world. We pretend to be peacemakers and we tell ourselves that the only reason we intervene in a war between two other countries is to save the population of one of the two countries. In reality all we care about is control the ebergy reserves and build as many NATO Bases as possible close to Russia. We bomb EVERYONE. We kill children and women. Our soldiers raped Muslims in Kosovo and Somalia and we refused to punish them. We allow Afghani drug dealers to smuggle drugs in Europe and USA just because they help us exterminate terrorists. We pay a sh**t load of dollars to destroy governments in Middle East and convince their nations they need to democratize their societies. Once they start a revolution, we impose a new dictator on them, one that we can control. Europeans dislike us, everywhere you go in Europe you listen to European negative comments about us. But we are allies whether they like it or not. I hate Russia, because it's the biggest oil and gas provider in the EU, this is why the EU is not willing to do exactly what we ask them to. I hate Serbia, too. The Balkan countries are of great strategic importance to us and Serbia ruins our plans.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Fact of the matter is Kosova is an independent nation, poor, high unemployment, corruption, and crime. At the same time name one country in Balkan that is not going through poverty, corruption, crime, and high unemployment rate???
(Albanian, 19 December 2014 12:26)

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population. This was for a few decades mind you. Since the war, billions from Western governments and NGO's have flooded Kosovo-Metohija in post-conflict aid, and where has it all gone? That's the problem, you've received so much assistance and still continue to be poor. Why is that?

European

pre 9 godina

kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.
(Dardani, 19 December 2014 13:05)

No, those words are almost entirely associated with you. 100 years of being Europe's biggest black hole of crime, poverty, misery, and intolerance. Isn't it telling that wherever the Albanian lives, the lowest standards of living follow?

Watcher

pre 9 godina

Looking at history...both Albanian & Croatian background is infested with support with the "wrong" players in history...I think this is the reason that they are so insecure with Serbia. Serbia ALWAYS stood up to "world powers that wanted to dictate. VERY proud & resistent people..yes, stubborn also.
Not trying to be sarcastic here...just what I see.

Dardani

pre 9 godina

Rama the only words that srbs wont take for ,,provokacije"" are kill,rape,genocide,oruzje(arms),theft,burn,eliminate and all other worst words that make the other nations nonexistent.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I'm sure Rama meant well by his comment, but as usual it's hard to understand statements coming from Albanian officials when they try to talk with their feet in their mouths.

It's even more difficult to understand the meaning when statements are not previously scripted from and rehearsed with US officials.

Still, it's a major improvement from the days of Sali Berisha, where everything that ruined his day was due to a conspiracy by "Jews and faggots".

With a little more practice, Rama can sound as scripted and predictable as his buddy Hash. He's only been in power for a year, so grant him that handicap.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold often talks rubbish, but on this occasion I agree with him 100%.

Kosovo received disproportionate aid under Tito, but there is no gratitude from Albanians towards Serbs for their contribution.

On the contrary, Albabians were ethnically cleansing Serbs for years before Milosevic.

Kosovo does not deserve to be a separate state - it is founded on the digging up of Serb graveyards. It stinks.

njegos

pre 9 godina

From azir the coward: "Serbia first must undergo a national De-Nazification Program to bring them to their senses and reality."

azir - On this site you openly applaud the barbaric pogroms conducted by the Croatian Nazi Ustasha, yet in the next breath you call for the de-nazification of Serbia. Do you read what you write before pressing send on your keyboard? Not only are you a coward, your are dumb! HA, HA!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
=======================================
Actually, the US is in partnership with Al Qaeda. They are trying to hide this but haven't been very successful. They are in partnership with all Islamic radicals. Tried to overthrow the governments in all countries using Al Qaeda but thank God they were not successful in Egypt and now their pets have gone rabid in Syria so they have to try to curb their ways a little.
Now, why doesn't Albanian become Serbia's ally instead? That would be productive.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

At this point in time, too many Serbs are stuck in the 'kill & pillage' state of mind and haven't yet graduated to the next level of thinking.
(cry me a river, 19 December 2014 17:24)

LOL and the minute some non-Albanian grabs the Albanian flag in a football match that was interrupted by some stupid nationalist provocation, you people go on a rampage. The only people with a kill and pillage mindset in Europe are Albanians, maybe because you haven't evolved from hunting and gathering. Mention something even slightly critical of Albanians and the hordes are unleashed. Nice try attempting to put the blame, as you always do, on someone else but you're still universally regarded as Europe's bottomfeeders.
(Albo Troll Wrangler

People like you are easily manipulated. But, I won't go there today. It won't help you. Everyone saw what happened at the game. 30,000 'brave' chetniks were screaming ...well, you know what they were saying. About 20 Albanian soccer players were braver than your 30,000 including your elected officials and your security forces. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo-Metohija is the most impoverished part of not only Serbia but of all Europe. Maybe somewhere down there with Moldova, but I think even they may be better off.

But the elephant in the room is your community has ALWAYS received a lot of assistance. In communist Yugoslavia, this territory received 23% of the national budget, despite making up only I believe 8% of the population.
(Ari Gold, 19 December 2014 17:58)

I see... So, what's your point? That Serbia is much better off with Kosovo not being part of it?

Kosovar Albanian

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold,

Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

First, Serbia must apologize for the atrocities. Next, they must go through a de-radicalization process. Then, we can start talking about becoming 'allies'.

First the same way goes for you Albanians that need to apologize for those horrendous crimes and atrocities you committed upon civilian serbs, murders, harrassment, burning of churches and monesterys. Second we dont want you as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikole, 21 December 2014 11:38)

Well you’re going to kiss the heavenly arse if your lot are going to get any work because I don’t see anyone opening a can of beer let alone industry in Kosova. And Bob is right Tito did pour large sums of money into Kosovo because during that time Albanians did not pay for electricity or water and the fat leader became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

. Those men showed integrity and class on the world stage. Your side showed their true colors. I'm surprised you bring up such an embarrassing event.

Serbs are champions of Europe when it comes to killing and pillaging and then attempt to shift blame. They complain a lot to. Albanians don't complain. They move on.
(cry me a river, 20 December 2014 17:25)

Yeah it sure shows a lot of class when they started to attack the serbian player that brought down a flag that doesnt belong on a football field. Thats why they were attacked by the way.

sj

pre 9 godina

(azir, 24 December 2014 17:13)

Please Serbs note the Albanian linguist, bla bla bla. This fellow must have been on the school debating team with such a proficiency in English.
Stick to goat herding azir.

resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada in Plymouth,Minnesota,U.S.A.

pre 9 godina

Is it possible that some Kosovar-Albanians may brand Rama a traitor for considering or contemplating that Albania form an alliance with Serbia?If I figured it out correctly Albania & Kosovo are like brother or sister nations to one another, aren't they? In fact some of us would tend to assume that Albania is Kosovo's best friend or true friend and that Albania would have Kosovo's "back covered" so to speak.

Bullwinkle

pre 9 godina

Before allowing Serbia to become an Ally, Albania along with her democratic allies and the international community, should first make sure that Serbian radicalism & extremism is eradicated, blablablablablablablablablabla
(Rocky, 19 December 2014 12:51)

Here you go Mr. Cimaj. You've earned it.

http://i.imgur.com/vt7ssUD.jpg

eric

pre 9 godina

how can you be an ally with uncivilized society like serbs, they are russians, they just want to expand and still territories and want to create a mini russia in europe, is not going to happened

Nikole

pre 9 godina

@Bob

and who the hell are you to qualify who deserves a state and who doesn't? I remember now, you told me once your friends in Mitrovica had opened a shop and received no albanian clientele and chalked it off to discrimination. If that had happened to me, I'd have thought my products were lousy, but that's just me. However much Kosova stinks today and it does stink, the stench was still fouler when the heavenly people ruled roost. not only was it fouler, it was toxic. This is what your ilk fails to get. Oh, and i like how you equate Tito's Yugoslavia with Serbs, as if the two things were related.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
I have been to Yugoslavia many times between 1970 and 1989 including Kosovo and during Tito’s times Albos got utilities for free and as I have already mentioned every tenth child Tito was the “godfather”.
I was born in Australia whereas you migrated to the west and now are “more Catholic than the Pope” despite working for $7.25 per hour.
Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up.

G-smakt

pre 9 godina

50% of the UN but not 50% of the world's population I think you'll find Mr.Rama. And whilst we are on the subject of inaccuracies that little mention of ethnic cleansing was just another bit of historic revisionism.He knows as well as everyone else that they left on NATO's orders so they could bomb Serb positions. Hogwash from a washed out politician.

Sumadinac

pre 9 godina

"Can you see this???

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3035/2618944228_fdc4137e66.jpg

This actually is in Kosovo :). When you enter Kosovo from any border crossing you see this :). Thank you.
(Kosovar Albanian, 20 December 2014 00:07)"

Some respect they show their Serb minority when they can't even get the spelling of "Dobro došli" right...

Azir

pre 9 godina

Ari why do you assume Yugoslavia's assistance to Kosova meant only Serbia's tax dinars were used?
Did your conveniently not mention all the non -Serb Yugoslav contributions?

What about all that exploitation of indigenous Kosovar natural resources such as the Trepca Mines that funded Belgrade's development?
Remember the fear Serbs had when the natives when on strike during the early 1980's ?
Belgrade Budget was in crisis and fear of lost mine revenue......

Why we're Serbs so desperate and dependent on Kosova when according to you they were so "poor"?
There is a saying in Albanian and that is lies have short legs.

Your nonsense and lieing is easily exposed.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sj

your imagination taking the better of you again, kinda like the 20 EURO's in 1994. I don't remember not having to pay for electricity at any point in my life. you wouldn't know what happened in holy Kosmet during Tito, you were settled in the warm bosom of Australia. and if you tell me you read in a book, I'd like to know which book it was, because no book that I have read on Kosovo has ever insinuated Albanians got utilities for free

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 22 December 2014 10:38)
LOL. Its always imagination when facts come out. In the west you paid for utilities but in Kosovo and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo. It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water and became a “godfather” to every 10 Albo child born in Kosovo. I was born in Australia unlike you who was settles in Kosovo.
How many industries have the west opened in Kosova again?????????

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 12:22)
English is not a second language for me as it is for you because anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact.
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit????

BklynAlbo

pre 9 godina

@ So sad, too bad

Hmmm...Nazis were not friends with Jews, but Germany is one of Israel's strongest allies today and Jews are thriving in Germany once again. The United States nuked Japan, yet today they're allies. Germany, France, and Britain are getting along and only argue about money and trade by and large.

You know why that happened? The war was over and the parties CHOSE to make and keep peace instead.

If other countries have overcome nasty pasts (far worse than Serbia & Kosovo have ever experienced), so can Serbia and Kosovo and Albania and Greece and Macedonia...provided they are led by "traitor" leaders rather than armchair "patriots" such as you and your Albo counterparts.

I am Albanian and as far as I'm concerned, Rama was right...Serbia should be an ally of Albania and of course Albania should be an ally of Serbia...with Kosovo acting as the glue.

Like it or not, Serbs and Albanians are more similar to each other than they want to admit.

boom

pre 9 godina

I dont know if one can trust the politicians but from what he says, Rama gets it.
I dare dream of a world of peace where serbs and albanians can cooperate to build a better future together instead of living in mutual hate and bragging to each other who has the bigger dick.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 23 December 2014 23:02)
Yes everyone makes things up except the Albos. It’s all fantasy because it’s not written in a book (it also depends whether your Albos can read). Gees if that 20 Euro business is all you think have on me after posting for the last 6 years then you’re rather thin on the ground much like you’re intellect.
For your edification Tito devoted very large proportions of the Yugoslavia’s budget for development of Kosovo and it was a common occurrence for people to work on a Saturday and that money was earmarked for the development of Kosovo, but maybe I’m making this up too.
I note there is no comment on the Godfather issue or is that another part of my imagination?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 24 December 2014 10:31)
Naturally its utter nonsense that the State paid for those bills and naturally that the people in the old Yugoslavia never had a day’s pay set aside to help an underdeveloped region like Kosovo. No one ever helped the Albos.
Anyone over 50 in any part of the old Yugoslavia can confirm this fact except the Albos who swear that they did it all themselves, eh sunshine?
I note once again no comment on the Godfather bit???? What I made that up too eh???

Jovan

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.

sj

pre 9 godina

@sj
Just wow .Pass on the pipe ,what are you smoking ?
(beni, 24 December 2014 01:53)

I like my Pizza with lots of peperoni and don’t be late. I don’t smoke so tick to what you good at and it the delivery job

j

pre 9 godina

this pathetic clown...
these primates are still so much culturally behind that they´re europe´s backlight, in every sense possible.
there is nothing in common with these barbarians and there is nothing to negotiate with them.
(Jovan, 22 December 2014 15:42)

Thank you. You make the NAZI's proud. Please post more post like these.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Nikolle if you ever lived in Yugoslavia you wouldnt have to ask that question. Kosovo, as the most impoverished part of SFRJ, received billions of money from the other republics, mostly from Serbia, that was used to pay for the utilities. These money were not specifically for the albanians but benefited all of the population in Kosovo but still dont act like you dont know what sj is talking about. You know very well its true unless you are too young to remember.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Hilarious, you murder and terrorize Serbs, now you want to be allies? Why didn't the Jews become allies with the Nazis, or why doesn't the US become allies with Al Qaeda?
(So sad, too bad, 19 December 2014 15:05)
wich century you are living?? how old you are? how well you really know the history betwen serbs and albanians ? do you have any strong prove to back up your story one party did to other party only ?, please sentence by sentence( not BS street talks as cheap cake factory or fairy tails) you know we live in 21 century and truth and lies are just a clck a way if you have a international browser on you computer not something made Milosevic era browser so you can't get of its fairy tails borders, and yes terrible crimes happen in ex yougoslavia but no one is saying you to forget but one thing for sure in this life is, yesterday was a thursday dec 17 2014 and in are life time it will never come a again same day... better days always are a head if you think by morning to make it happen...

azir

pre 9 godina

Sj and other Serb ignorants use, or should i say, mis use opinions for "facts".

The sj is full of it and doesn't know when to stop embarassing him....

I love beating Serbs over the head with the TRUTH.
(my definition of internationaly recognized facts)
and not sj's nonsense "just ask anyone bla bla bla"

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

Its either that your comprehension skills are very poor, or that your assertion that Albos never paid for anything can't be corroborated. Personally I think its both. Never paid for any utilities means they never received any bills. It isn't true no matter how often you type it. But please, prove me wrong if you can. You can't

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Its always imagination when facts come out." What facts? Like 20 Euros's in 1994 fact? You've been caught with your pants down before, there are no facts when you type, only fantasy.
"It was common knowledge that Tito gave the Albos free energy and water" Common knowledge to whom? This must be in a book somewhere, so give me the title of the book you read it in and I will see what it says. At no point in Tito's era or any other Yugoslav era was such a thing in place. Its your fantasy coming to the fore again. You have now taken to believing your own stupidity.
"Kosovo has been turned into a s** hole and only the Serbs can clean it up." and even if this were tre (it isn't) you won't to clean up anything, so enjoy fantasising about it

Reader

pre 9 godina

"and I did visit the old Yugoslavia many many times and went to Kosovo."
(sj, 22 December 2014 23:09)


Beautiful! Keep the BS coming, it is so funny :).

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

So go ahead and prove me wrong. Where did you read that rubbish? Do you know why you won't tell me, because you didn't read it anywhere, you made it up, like that €20.00 garbage

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

sunshine, you claimed that no Albanian ever paid for utility bills in holy Kosmet during Tito. Their bills I'm guessing would have been subsidized by the state. That is total and utter nonsense. At no point has it EVER been the case, but its not the first time you come up with garbage that you end up believing. now tell me, where is it that you read/heard that Albos, as you so call us, did not pay for water, electricity, heating, animal welfare...(what else do you want to put in the list?). prove me wrong sunshine, if you read it somewhere all you have to do is tell me where

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

We Serbs dont want you Albanians as our friend or allies, you are an eternal enemy and that wont change.
(Daniel, 20 December 2014 14:12)

Daniel,
If you feel that way then don't expect to be welcome in Kosovo. You had better make plans to leave Kosovo permanently or you might get help from your neighbors to do so.