"Serb minority in Albania denied rights"

Italy created a monster in the Balkans.
Serbs were being oppressed for a very long time on their own land but this is thanks to Italy, they gave Serbian land to Shqiptars (no such word as Albanian in so-called Albanian language, they are only Shquiptars)
(CrazySally, 12 December 2014 13:13)

Hear hear. A Serb coming from the mountains of Iran is complaining about being oppressed in the land that he stole.

Serbs are deprived of their own ethnicity and religion, not allowed to go to school in their own language, not allowed to have newspapers and tv-channels in serbian. albanians in Serbia have all those rights and yet they claim that they are oppressed? I sure do wish that we do start to oppress them for reciprocity.

I've always wondered about the oppressed Serbs & Greeks in Albania, since they're human rights are apparently trampled upon, why don't they just out and protest? Its really easy. After all, this is what Albanians did in Kosovo in say 1989, 1990, 1991, 1997-98. I tell you why they don't do this, because for one thing, their numbers (especially those of Greeks) are grossly exaggerated by those who see someone profess an Orthodox faith and automatically assume that they're Greek or Serb, and because the Serb presence in Albania is so small as to be insignificant. This still doesn't mean that Serbs have their rights rejected, because that's compete nonsense.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2014/01/23/feature-01

there is no serbs in albania, Albania as a country is surrounded by Albanians. There could be a couple of gypsy montenegrians and thats about it.

We Albanians need to confess our country with 95%Shqiptars actualy has 3 Billion Serbs.

"Serbs " are really Montenegrins and about a handful

"Montenegrins" are serbs, I suggest you read the great author Petar Petrovic Njegos and you will find out for yourself. That is if you belong to that 1% of all albanians that know how to read.

This is just an attempt by Serbia to draw parrallels with the presevo valley. They cant. Presevo has 50,000 Albanians and theres about 1,000-2,000 "serbs" who dont even call themself serbs but montenegrins anyway lol. I've seen them when I visited Albania and they live just fine. They have the same amount of rights as everyone else and complete freedom of movemement to montenegro. My cab driver from montenegro to shkoder was a montenegrin from vraka.

Vraka is the only village of Montenegrin minority in Albania and their numbers is 662. It is up to these people to declare themselves of what minority they are and they do identify today as Montenegrins not Serbs. Not one person identified him/herself as a Serb minority. There is no geographical continuity between Albania and Serb inhabited lands. Not only there are no Serb villages in Albania, but also there are none bordering it.
Also, no minority boycotted the last census. This is disinformation and a crude attempt to equate the sizable Albanian minority in Serbia with the nonexistent 'Serb minority' in Albania. The historical minorities in Albania are the Greek, Macedonian (some identify themselves as Bulgarians), Vlach and Roma. But, even their numbers have dwindled after the fall of communism due to emigration. Christian Orthodox Albanians in neighboring countries such as Macedonia and Greece are reconnecting with their long-denied identity. I hope that in Serbia too Christian Albanians come out clean about their true family, tribe and national identity.
This is the current census data on languages financed and supervised by EUROSTAT: Albanian 98.8% (official - derived from Tosk dialect), Greek 0.5%, other 0.6% (including Macedonian, Roma, Vlach, Turkish, Italian, and Serbo-Croatian), unspecified 0.1%.

Diplomaticus, read this and still claim that noone boycotted the census. An albanian caught in a lie once again.
http://eudo-citizenship.eu/news/citizenship-news/582-the-politics-of-numbers-and-identity-in-albania

Daniel you do realize Serbs claim everyone is "like" them the Slovenians, Croatians, Bosnians, Macedonians and Sanxjaks.

Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more....

We're did Serbs come from? When will they realize that the United states will never let them take anymore land, it's pretty clear that their greed throughout history had caught up to them and it's over and a Serb never ever got treated bad in Albania , it's notnin Albanians blood to do that to humans, I bet Serbs in Albania or being treated better then Serbs in Serbia

Daniel you do realize Serbs claim everyone is "like" them the Slovenians, Croatians, Bosnians, Macedonians and Sanxjaks.
(azir, 12 December 2014 17:06)

Look, I'll keep this brief and simple because you're one of the more dim posters here.

Serb never claim Slovenes, Croats or Bosnians are one of them. Slovenes have always had a distinct culture and unless you're referring to outdated 19th century ethnography which argued Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians were all the same ethnicity because of language, you're wrong in that assertion too. As far as Macedonians are concerned, no Serb has ever claimed they are the same. More likely Macedonians are closer to Bulgarians.

I have no idea who the Hell "Sanxjaks" are. I assume you meant to say "Sanxhak", which is the Albanian bastardization of "Sandzak", but got confused along the way and mixed the two together. It's ok, I won't think any less of you since you're already foolish enough to take a geographic region and somehow equate it with a distinct ethnic race.

The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue.

I feel my reply may have been a little too complicated for you, now that I read it over. Apologies if you have a look of confusion on your face, but have an adult help you through it if you need clarification. In the meantime, stay away from ledges and sharp objects.

Italy created a monster in the Balkans.
Serbs were being oppressed for a very long time on their own land but this is thanks to Italy, they gave Serbian land to Shqiptars (no such word as Albanian in so-called Albanian language, they are only Shquiptars)

This is disinformation and a crude attempt to equate the sizable Albanian minority in Serbia with the nonexistent 'Serb minority' in Albania."

Of course it is nonexistent when you deprive the serbs their right to their own ethnicity and religion. They are not allowed to declare themselves as serbs, didnt you even read the article?

Heeeyyyy.


Hoohoooo!!! Hey you Serbs??

Are you entering EU ? Probably not, because if you enter EU, I will cross Atlantic Ocean by bicycle.

Wohooooo!!! Cheers.

1 % in Albania. Wohoooooo.

Ohh yeah. That was created by Americans you know.

Hope you enjoy living in dormitories, as you are refugee from Karpatian Mountains and Croatian lands. Wohoooo....

Arivederci.

What are Serbs doing there anyway? They should leave that miserable piece of land and go live somewhere else. It's interesting because Albanians are the ones which are good at reproducing and dominating other nations, not Serbs, I personally doubt their presence there... I mean is there historical evidence they lived in that despicable nation which lives on importing italian garbage and dumping it in their capital?! http://www.dw.de/garbage-piles-up-in-albania/a-17010482 If any where by total misfortune pushed there they are totally welcome to come back to their fatherland.

We Albanians need to confess our country with 95%Shqiptars actualy has 3 Billion Serbs.

"Serbs " are really Montenegrins and about a handful.

Just the title of the article alone is enough to convince me that people who would otherwise be screaming minority discrimination, minority rights, border readjustment, and a long list of historical injustices suddenly to suddenly sound like the Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, and Montenegrins they believe they're better than.

Might as well extend the discussion to the Greek minority in the south to further the likelihood of haughty rebuffs and makeshift history lessons from Albanians with American IP addresses.

azir = internet troll

Nikolle, of course, everything you albanians do vs serbs is exagerrated as always and vice versa. You are always the innocent lambs that can do no harm to anyone and not the filthy savages everyone knows you are. And of course the numbers of serbs are nonexistent since they are deprived of their basic rights to declare themselves as serbs, not really that hard to understand now is it?

Nothing is stopping the Serb government to do anything about it. We have schools for Greeks that stay open even with 5 children. We have greek ministers, parliamentaries, vice- prime ministers etc etc.They are part of all fields of life. The Greek government was interested for them to have a better life and did something about it. Serbia in the meantime isn't interested at all about that. What Serbia is interested is to have muddy waters, so that when one mentions Presheva they can draw a parallel. Which is very stupid. Stupid because I have never seen a protest for more rights from the Vraka villagers. There's some sort of protest at least once a month in the country. Never seen a protest in Vraka for the past 24 years. Reason is simple.They don't feel the need to, no matter what paper pushers in Belgrade says.

"that has no law on ethnic minorities."

Either this is true or it is not. Which one is it?

If it is true, then it is like France where everyone in French and there is no abuse of minorities because France is based on Liberté, Fraternite et Egalite. Of course there is rampant abuse and discrimination in France, especailly if you do not have a 'tradional' French name. Who do they think they are kidding?

If Albania has no laws for minorities, then why should it be let in to the EU?

What kind of argument is it that 'we've got no minorites so we don't need even a basic law'? If minorites are under threat simply for expressing their own traditions and basic rights, how on earth does that make such a country 'European' unless it is from the first half of the last century?

People should have their rights to exist as humans everywhere they live.We need to put the whole government (Serbian and Albanian) and some of the Balkan contries in a plane and send over Ukraine and then the people will have their rights the way they want them.Down with this criminal thievs so called governments.

"Montenegrins regard themselves as high-caste Serbs, the warrior Serbs."


Professor William N. Dunn, University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Public an International Affairs; CNN, Montenegro: Hotspot in the making?

How Montenegrins expressed their identity in independent Montenegrin state before unification with Serbia?


During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.


"Although there is no other nationality in this land except Serb nationality and no other religion except Eastern Orthodoxy, each foreigner and each person of different faith can live here and enjoy the same freedom and the same domestic right as Montenegrin or Highlander."


The Code of Montenegrin Prince Danilo, established in 1855, paragraph 92.
What was the guiding national idea in independent Montenegrin state?


"In Montenegro live only true and pure Serbs who speak Serbian language... Besides Montenegro there are more Serb lands in which our Serb brothers are living... Some of them are free as we are and some subjugated to foreigner... Each Serb in Montenegro is obligated to love his entire Fatherland, all Serb lands - in which our free and unfree Serb brothers are living. "

A Serb coming from the mountains of Iran is complaining about being oppressed in the land that he stole.
(Mark, 12 December 2014 16:17)

From who? Certainly not from you Turkish offshoots.

The matter of Montenegrin nationhood is a controversial issue, primarily among the Serbs.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

Oh OK, so who cares since it's not a controversial issue among the Montenegrins
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Numerous historical documents confirm that Montenegrins have felt that they have Serbian ethnic identity. During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.
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Because of such obvious commonalities, most Serbs see Montenegrins as “Mountain Serbs,”
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

And who cares what Serbs see Montenegrins as?! What matters is what Monetenegrins see themselves as.

"Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "

Use google if you know how to and you will see those documents for yourself. Also those are not my words but the words of the great Petar Petrovic Njegos, the most famous serbian writer and a Prince-Bishop of Montenegro
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 19:00)

That does not make that claim true - they are not God. You (or whoever you quoted) stated that "all Montenegrins consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally". That can't be trusted until you (or whoever you quoted) provides evidence that each and every Montenegrin said that.
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but hey maybe an albanian knows more about how montenegrins view themselves than he does.
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 19:00)

I did not claim that. I just asked for evidence about "all montenegrins" not just "montenegrins".
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Im not talking about us IM talking about you albanians. Everyone hated you and considerted you as a lower race, even the gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians.
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 18:54)

That's your speculation. Provide evidence that "gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians". What we know for a fact is that almost all nationalities, including Montenegrins did not want to live together with Serbs in a single country!

Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more....
(azir, 12 December 2014 17:06)

The ethnic serbs voted to stay with Serbia as the polls say that more than 40%of the population wanted to stay with Serbia. It was the albanians and other minorities that voted against. I go to montenegro every year and I can tell you not one single serb voted against it so stfu about something you dont have a clue about. Go ask a Slovene, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Croat or Bosniak what they think of you and you will see. You were and are hated by all the former groups in Yugoslavia and by the way by the rest of Europe aswell. Montenegrin ARE serbs, end of story. Read the most famous writer Who are Montenegrins?

Montenegrin people are South Slavs who are primarily associated with Montenegro. The matter of Montenegrin nationhood is a controversial issue, primarily among the Serbs. With regard to history, language, religion and ethnic origin, Montenegrins are most closely related to the Serbs, although there are links with the other South Slavs, too. Numerous historical documents confirm that Montenegrins have felt that they have Serbian ethnic identity. During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "Serbs of Montenegro are same in blood, language and aspiration, faith and heritage as people from Serbia and other Serb lands; We /Serbs and Montenegrins/ have common past which fills us up with enthusiasm, common ideals, heroes, sorrow and everything else that makes one nation really meaningful." Differences between Montenegrins and Serbs are a matter of continuing controversy. Although isolated from each other for centuries during the Ottoman period, when Albanian families came to dominate the intervening Kosovo region, both groups retained their Orthodox religious traditions and many other common cultural attributes—including the Cyrillic alphabet. Because of such obvious commonalities, most Serbs see Montenegrins as “Mountain Serbs,”

300 to 400 montenegrins in albania became 30 000 serbs! That is funny! How come none of this people said anything of themself, but has to be herd from serbia which killed 11 000 albanians, 15 years ago. If they are 30000 'serbian' in albania then albanians in presheva valley should be 2 million. Some of those people in 1990-92 went once to serbia but did not like it and came back. Funny think with serbian politician is when they like to "protect" other minoritis like gypses. If we go with numbers that greece, serbia, montenegro and macedonia through there about they minority in albania add here and gypses, there will be a population of albania 5 million and there will be no albanian on it.

You were and are hated by all the former groups in Yugoslavia and by the way by the rest of Europe aswell.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:45)

You are correct. Almost all former groups in Yugoslavia did not want to be together with Serbs under the same country. Even the Montenegrins wanted nothing to do with Serbs. Whether you like it or not, that's what Montenegro decided, but you are free to live in denial if you so wish!

Serbia trying to draw parallells between Albanians in Serbia 50 000-100 000 to serbs (?) in Albania (less than 50). What rights do albanians in Serbia have? The southern parts of Serbia where albanians live are the poorest in the entire country. The Serbian state has not invested a single cent there just so that the albanians living there would have no other choice but to leave, but fortunately some of them did not.

Serb never claim Slovenes, Croats or Bosnians are one of them.
Balkan Anthropologist

Weird. Many serbs to this day, including your hero Seselj, claim that Croats and Bosnianks are one of them. Strange that a so-called anthropologist doesn't know this much.

"The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue."

Maybe that's true, maybe not. What I know for sure is it was Serbs who went on an ethnic cleansing campaign to get rid of non-Serbs and establish greater Serbia, thus wanting to claim everything for themselves. I don't think Serbs have a positive image across the world.
Of course, I don't know what 'everyone' thinks about the Albanians and Serbs. It seems that you and a few of your brethren are the chosen ones who seem to know everything.

You seem to think you're brighter than you are. I think there's a word for people like that.

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they?
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Yes, they "did" (past tense) and after seeing what living together with Serbs meant, they decided they no longer wanted to live together with Serbs.
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As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Macedonians, slovenians, croats, montenegrins, bosnians or albanians all choose not to live in the same country with Serbs... That's a fact.

Whereas your claim "they considered you as subhumans and a lower race" is, well, just a claim of yours for which you provided no evidence at all that macedonians, slovenians, croats, montenegrins or bosnians said that. And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)

How Montenegrins expressed their identity after unification with Serbia and between two world wars?


"Serbs of Montenegro are same in blood, language and aspiration, faith and heritage as people from Serbia and other Serb lands; We have common past which fills us up with enthusiasm, common ideals, heroes, sorrow and everything else that makes one nation really meaningful."


Act of Union of the Great People's Parliament of Serb Nation in Montenegro, 1918

"The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue."

Balkan Anthropologist, probably you have been dismissed or expelled from the school if you are truly Anthropologist, or probably you have finished the University during Milosevic era, when he used to show you cartoons instead of true history, or even war crimes that happened in three regions. But anyway, let me show you something,

This is the route of the language: http://www.slmc.uottawa.ca/content_images/2xx007e.gif

Do you see that the only languages in Europe that are untouched during the history and they have it own route are: Greek, Armenian and Albanian.
Probably it says a lot, more than 1000 words, to show you that what you are saying does not comprise with reality, but anyway I understand you. About the issue that you are saying that Albanians want anything which is not theirs, trust me we don't want to be in your position, thus we do not like to be Serbs or take something from Serbs. I would be ashamed, trust me.

But anyway, still Good for you.

Bye and Cheers.

Peggy are you trying to tell us Danilo doesn't have a ball(s) but you do??

Peggy is that even natural? :)
(azir, 15 December 2014 11:40)
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No, but you obviously don't have a brain if you can't understand what dropping the ball means.

From the coward azir: "Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more...."

Yet another dumb, uneducated comment from the idiot of B92. The first Serbian King, Stefan Nemanja was born in Podgorica, the capital of Montenegro. The most famous Serb of all, Petar Petrovic Njegos, the famous Prince-Bishop, always referred to himslef as a Serb.

Your comments are too funny, azir. Keep them coming!

Serbs and Serbia was rejected by Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia,Kosova,Macedonia,Montenegro but somehow it's only indigenous authentic Shqiptare's fault.

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.

Balkan Serb Apologist:

Serbs of all people ought to talk........

Historic losers you are in conflict with all your neighbors and well represented at The Hague.

Everyone hates you criminals and you will be cut down to size and with your low birth rate and high death rate your contamination of Europe will inevitably be extinct.

Mother Russia needs you go back to your real home dim wit.

Everyone hates you criminals and you will be cut down to size and with your low birth rate and high death rate your contamination of Europe will inevitably be extinct.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:59)

Hush now. The adults are talking. Go play outside.

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:43)
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A hateful statement indeed but Danilo seems to have dropped the ball. He is not calling this person out. Strange how he keeps quiet when Albanians show obvious hatred, but hey as long as they don't say they hate then he's cool with it. So being dishonest gets you off the hook.

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they? As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Thank you for stating this. This is the crux of the issue. This is why Kosova cannot and is not under Serbia. It is not in the human nature to accept to be seen and viewed as subhuman by "your own country". It is not in the human nature to treat those they see as subhumans and unworthy in a just and fair way. This spells eternal conflict. If seek war and bloodshed then you seek Kosova to be subjugated by Serbia. It is as simple as that.

In Albania there are no Serb minority, but two trailers of Albanians traitors, collaborators of Serbia.

About the issue that you are saying that Albanians want anything which is not theirs, trust me we don't want to be in your position, thus we do not like to be Serbs or take something from Serbs. I would be ashamed, trust me.

But anyway, still Good for you.

Bye and Cheers.
(Kosovar Albanian, 13 December 2014 12:02)

Reall? How come you took Kosovo then and make claims on territories that belong to Serbia, Macedonia and Greece then?

Danilo please explain how indigenous Shqiptares can "claim" other people's land when by definition and historical fact we were there BEFORE Slav invasion.

Let me guess ......Serb logic is .......slavs invaded the Balkans and no one was around?

A handfull of ethnic Montenegrians in Albania goesn't get you a SERB Municipality.

Peggy if I have no brain then you the make-believe Serb is a self confessed organ snatcher!

And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)
(icj1, 16 December 2014 09:03)

Show me evidence of that.
(Daniel, 16 December 2014 12:39)

Sure, when are you able to travel to come and meet them?

I was always against Serbia's accession to the EU but since reading the rantings of Crazy Albo I'm all for it as he/she has promised to do us all the favour of drowning in the Atlantic.

Many serbs to this day, including your hero Seselj, claim that Croats and Bosnianks are one of them. Strange that a so-called anthropologist doesn't know this much.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

First, he's not my hero, nor is he a hero for the overwhelming majority of Serbs. He represents a party that last election received less than 5% of the vote. You might want to look at the calendar and realize 20 years have passed. If Seselj's all you've got in your argument, I needn't worry.

What I know for sure is it was Serbs who went on an ethnic cleansing campaign to get rid of non-Serbs and establish greater Serbia, thus wanting to claim everything for themselves.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

And so did Croats, and Albanians. You still seem to think this civil war in the 1990s was a one way street. But that's the usual default response from someone who can't think of anything else to say, since you clearly leave out the last 14 years of organized attacks against the remaining Serb minority in Kosovo, whom Albanians either dismiss as random and minor incidents, or consider justified reprisals for earlier events, and puts them on par with the people they claim to be above.

You seem to think you're brighter than you are. I think there's a word for people like that.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

And you seem to think you have a point to make in this rebuttal. You'd do better just sticking to the nationalists around here.

But anyway, let me show you something,

This is the route of the language: [link]
(Kosovar Albanian, 13 December 2014 12:02)

Great! What the Hell does this have to do with what I wrote? You can't throw a bunch of words in English together and hope it makes sense. I'm sure you thought you had a point to make but it seemed to have gotten lost in Google Translate. I couldn't care less about your linguistic roots.

Clearly, you're one of those people with a complex issue since you felt the need to respond but couldn't come up with anything relevant.

.......and what's wrong with denying Serbs rights ! They (Serbs) denied rights to others during YU, why is this any different.

What about the Seb minority in Chicago who out number Serbs in Kosova?

Will Serbia also demand a Municipality from President OBama?

The handfull of ethnic Slav Montenegrians in Albania can never be compared to Presheva,Medvedje and Bujanoc indigenous Eastern Kosova currently occupied by Infamous Serbian .

"Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "

Use google if you know how to and you will see those documents for yourself. Also those are not my words but the words of the great Petar Petrovic Njegos, the most famous serbian writer and a Prince-Bishop of Montenegro but hey maybe an albanian knows more about how montenegrins view themselves than he does.
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Peggy are you trying to tell us Danilo doesn't have a ball(s) but you do??

Peggy is that even natural? :)

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:43)

And jails throughout Europe are full of Albanian criminals.

That's your speculation. Provide evidence that "gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians". What we know for a fact is that almost all nationalities, including Montenegrins did not want to live together with Serbs in a single country!
(icj1, 15 December 2014 14:56)

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they? As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.

"Yes, they "did" (past tense) and after seeing what living together with Serbs meant, they decided they no longer wanted to live together with Serbs. "

Well you could say the same thing about albanians right? They all lived with you too and now they dont and they werent the only ones that decided, serbs decided aswell that they didnt want to live with croats or bosnians.

Chicago has more Serbs than Kosova and Albania combined.

Serbs demand a Municipality from President OBama and let us know how that works out for you :)

I suspect Serbs are trying to "kill" their enemies with their stupidity by making them "die laughing"

Where it was mentioned in this article that Serbia is being denied the right to protect the rights of Serbs or ethnic Serbs residing in Albania I hope it doesn't mean that Serbia wants to resolve this matter by means of an armed conflict against Albania,besides,armed conflicts are not always a solution,in some cases armed conflicts can prolong tense or strained relations and it shouldn't take a genius to figure out why.

You are correct. Almost all former groups in Yugoslavia did not want to be together with Serbs under the same country. Even the Montenegrins wanted nothing to do with Serbs. Whether you like it or not, that's what Montenegro decided, but you are free to live in denial if you so wish!
(icj1, 13 December 2014 02:10)

Im not talking about us IM talking about you albanians. Everyone hated you and considerted you as a lower race, even the gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians.

Let me guess ......Serb logic is .......slavs invaded the Balkans and no one was around?
(azir, 15 December 2014 12:56)

No, Greeks and Latins were already there.

And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)
(icj1, 16 December 2014 09:03)

Show me evidence of that.

VIVA Jasenovac ,Croatia and NATO.haha
(azir, 16 December 2014 21:10)
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Hey Danilo, I am waiting for you to condemn this statement and expose this worm as a hater.
Without pushing we woudln't hear a word against this post from you. I know it and you know it.
BUT, still let's hear it even if you need to be pushed.

Nigro do you realize Montenegrians "love " you so much that they voted to seperate from your miserable. relationship.

VIVA Jasenovac ,Croatia and NATO.haha

(azir, 16 December 20
14 21:10)

VIVA Aleksandar Rankovic "Leka", compliments to Hoxha aswell that kept you on a short leish.

Sure, when are you able to travel to come and meet them?
(icj1, 17 December 2014 21:05)

It can be solved much easier, interview them and put up a video of it on youtube. You always ask for proof from others now come up with evidence yourself.

Serbs are deprived of their own ethnicity and religion, not allowed to go to school in their own language, not allowed to have newspapers and tv-channels in serbian. albanians in Serbia have all those rights and yet they claim that they are oppressed? I sure do wish that we do start to oppress them for reciprocity.

Italy created a monster in the Balkans.
Serbs were being oppressed for a very long time on their own land but this is thanks to Italy, they gave Serbian land to Shqiptars (no such word as Albanian in so-called Albanian language, they are only Shquiptars)

We Albanians need to confess our country with 95%Shqiptars actualy has 3 Billion Serbs.

"Serbs " are really Montenegrins and about a handful

"Montenegrins" are serbs, I suggest you read the great author Petar Petrovic Njegos and you will find out for yourself. That is if you belong to that 1% of all albanians that know how to read.

What are Serbs doing there anyway? They should leave that miserable piece of land and go live somewhere else. It's interesting because Albanians are the ones which are good at reproducing and dominating other nations, not Serbs, I personally doubt their presence there... I mean is there historical evidence they lived in that despicable nation which lives on importing italian garbage and dumping it in their capital?! http://www.dw.de/garbage-piles-up-in-albania/a-17010482 If any where by total misfortune pushed there they are totally welcome to come back to their fatherland.

Italy created a monster in the Balkans.
Serbs were being oppressed for a very long time on their own land but this is thanks to Italy, they gave Serbian land to Shqiptars (no such word as Albanian in so-called Albanian language, they are only Shquiptars)
(CrazySally, 12 December 2014 13:13)

Hear hear. A Serb coming from the mountains of Iran is complaining about being oppressed in the land that he stole.

We're did Serbs come from? When will they realize that the United states will never let them take anymore land, it's pretty clear that their greed throughout history had caught up to them and it's over and a Serb never ever got treated bad in Albania , it's notnin Albanians blood to do that to humans, I bet Serbs in Albania or being treated better then Serbs in Serbia

Daniel you do realize Serbs claim everyone is "like" them the Slovenians, Croatians, Bosnians, Macedonians and Sanxjaks.

Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more....

Daniel you do realize Serbs claim everyone is "like" them the Slovenians, Croatians, Bosnians, Macedonians and Sanxjaks.
(azir, 12 December 2014 17:06)

Look, I'll keep this brief and simple because you're one of the more dim posters here.

Serb never claim Slovenes, Croats or Bosnians are one of them. Slovenes have always had a distinct culture and unless you're referring to outdated 19th century ethnography which argued Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians were all the same ethnicity because of language, you're wrong in that assertion too. As far as Macedonians are concerned, no Serb has ever claimed they are the same. More likely Macedonians are closer to Bulgarians.

I have no idea who the Hell "Sanxjaks" are. I assume you meant to say "Sanxhak", which is the Albanian bastardization of "Sandzak", but got confused along the way and mixed the two together. It's ok, I won't think any less of you since you're already foolish enough to take a geographic region and somehow equate it with a distinct ethnic race.

The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue.

I feel my reply may have been a little too complicated for you, now that I read it over. Apologies if you have a look of confusion on your face, but have an adult help you through it if you need clarification. In the meantime, stay away from ledges and sharp objects.

Vraka is the only village of Montenegrin minority in Albania and their numbers is 662. It is up to these people to declare themselves of what minority they are and they do identify today as Montenegrins not Serbs. Not one person identified him/herself as a Serb minority. There is no geographical continuity between Albania and Serb inhabited lands. Not only there are no Serb villages in Albania, but also there are none bordering it.
Also, no minority boycotted the last census. This is disinformation and a crude attempt to equate the sizable Albanian minority in Serbia with the nonexistent 'Serb minority' in Albania. The historical minorities in Albania are the Greek, Macedonian (some identify themselves as Bulgarians), Vlach and Roma. But, even their numbers have dwindled after the fall of communism due to emigration. Christian Orthodox Albanians in neighboring countries such as Macedonia and Greece are reconnecting with their long-denied identity. I hope that in Serbia too Christian Albanians come out clean about their true family, tribe and national identity.
This is the current census data on languages financed and supervised by EUROSTAT: Albanian 98.8% (official - derived from Tosk dialect), Greek 0.5%, other 0.6% (including Macedonian, Roma, Vlach, Turkish, Italian, and Serbo-Croatian), unspecified 0.1%.

Heeeyyyy.


Hoohoooo!!! Hey you Serbs??

Are you entering EU ? Probably not, because if you enter EU, I will cross Atlantic Ocean by bicycle.

Wohooooo!!! Cheers.

1 % in Albania. Wohoooooo.

Ohh yeah. That was created by Americans you know.

Hope you enjoy living in dormitories, as you are refugee from Karpatian Mountains and Croatian lands. Wohoooo....

Arivederci.

This is disinformation and a crude attempt to equate the sizable Albanian minority in Serbia with the nonexistent 'Serb minority' in Albania."

Of course it is nonexistent when you deprive the serbs their right to their own ethnicity and religion. They are not allowed to declare themselves as serbs, didnt you even read the article?

I've always wondered about the oppressed Serbs & Greeks in Albania, since they're human rights are apparently trampled upon, why don't they just out and protest? Its really easy. After all, this is what Albanians did in Kosovo in say 1989, 1990, 1991, 1997-98. I tell you why they don't do this, because for one thing, their numbers (especially those of Greeks) are grossly exaggerated by those who see someone profess an Orthodox faith and automatically assume that they're Greek or Serb, and because the Serb presence in Albania is so small as to be insignificant. This still doesn't mean that Serbs have their rights rejected, because that's compete nonsense.

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2014/01/23/feature-01

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:43)

And jails throughout Europe are full of Albanian criminals.

Nikolle, of course, everything you albanians do vs serbs is exagerrated as always and vice versa. You are always the innocent lambs that can do no harm to anyone and not the filthy savages everyone knows you are. And of course the numbers of serbs are nonexistent since they are deprived of their basic rights to declare themselves as serbs, not really that hard to understand now is it?

Let me guess ......Serb logic is .......slavs invaded the Balkans and no one was around?
(azir, 15 December 2014 12:56)

No, Greeks and Latins were already there.

Diplomaticus, read this and still claim that noone boycotted the census. An albanian caught in a lie once again.
http://eudo-citizenship.eu/news/citizenship-news/582-the-politics-of-numbers-and-identity-in-albania

We Albanians need to confess our country with 95%Shqiptars actualy has 3 Billion Serbs.

"Serbs " are really Montenegrins and about a handful.

there is no serbs in albania, Albania as a country is surrounded by Albanians. There could be a couple of gypsy montenegrians and thats about it.

Just the title of the article alone is enough to convince me that people who would otherwise be screaming minority discrimination, minority rights, border readjustment, and a long list of historical injustices suddenly to suddenly sound like the Serbs, Greeks, Macedonians, and Montenegrins they believe they're better than.

Might as well extend the discussion to the Greek minority in the south to further the likelihood of haughty rebuffs and makeshift history lessons from Albanians with American IP addresses.

This is just an attempt by Serbia to draw parrallels with the presevo valley. They cant. Presevo has 50,000 Albanians and theres about 1,000-2,000 "serbs" who dont even call themself serbs but montenegrins anyway lol. I've seen them when I visited Albania and they live just fine. They have the same amount of rights as everyone else and complete freedom of movemement to montenegro. My cab driver from montenegro to shkoder was a montenegrin from vraka.

Balkan Serb Apologist:

Serbs of all people ought to talk........

Historic losers you are in conflict with all your neighbors and well represented at The Hague.

Everyone hates you criminals and you will be cut down to size and with your low birth rate and high death rate your contamination of Europe will inevitably be extinct.

Mother Russia needs you go back to your real home dim wit.

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:43)
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A hateful statement indeed but Danilo seems to have dropped the ball. He is not calling this person out. Strange how he keeps quiet when Albanians show obvious hatred, but hey as long as they don't say they hate then he's cool with it. So being dishonest gets you off the hook.

"that has no law on ethnic minorities."

Either this is true or it is not. Which one is it?

If it is true, then it is like France where everyone in French and there is no abuse of minorities because France is based on Liberté, Fraternite et Egalite. Of course there is rampant abuse and discrimination in France, especailly if you do not have a 'tradional' French name. Who do they think they are kidding?

If Albania has no laws for minorities, then why should it be let in to the EU?

What kind of argument is it that 'we've got no minorites so we don't need even a basic law'? If minorites are under threat simply for expressing their own traditions and basic rights, how on earth does that make such a country 'European' unless it is from the first half of the last century?

azir = internet troll

Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more....
(azir, 12 December 2014 17:06)

The ethnic serbs voted to stay with Serbia as the polls say that more than 40%of the population wanted to stay with Serbia. It was the albanians and other minorities that voted against. I go to montenegro every year and I can tell you not one single serb voted against it so stfu about something you dont have a clue about. Go ask a Slovene, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Croat or Bosniak what they think of you and you will see. You were and are hated by all the former groups in Yugoslavia and by the way by the rest of Europe aswell. Montenegrin ARE serbs, end of story. Read the most famous writer Who are Montenegrins?

"Montenegrins regard themselves as high-caste Serbs, the warrior Serbs."


Professor William N. Dunn, University of Pittsburgh's Graduate School of Public an International Affairs; CNN, Montenegro: Hotspot in the making?

How Montenegrins expressed their identity in independent Montenegrin state before unification with Serbia?


During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.


"Although there is no other nationality in this land except Serb nationality and no other religion except Eastern Orthodoxy, each foreigner and each person of different faith can live here and enjoy the same freedom and the same domestic right as Montenegrin or Highlander."


The Code of Montenegrin Prince Danilo, established in 1855, paragraph 92.
What was the guiding national idea in independent Montenegrin state?


"In Montenegro live only true and pure Serbs who speak Serbian language... Besides Montenegro there are more Serb lands in which our Serb brothers are living... Some of them are free as we are and some subjugated to foreigner... Each Serb in Montenegro is obligated to love his entire Fatherland, all Serb lands - in which our free and unfree Serb brothers are living. "

How Montenegrins expressed their identity after unification with Serbia and between two world wars?


"Serbs of Montenegro are same in blood, language and aspiration, faith and heritage as people from Serbia and other Serb lands; We have common past which fills us up with enthusiasm, common ideals, heroes, sorrow and everything else that makes one nation really meaningful."


Act of Union of the Great People's Parliament of Serb Nation in Montenegro, 1918

Peggy are you trying to tell us Danilo doesn't have a ball(s) but you do??

Peggy is that even natural? :)
(azir, 15 December 2014 11:40)
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No, but you obviously don't have a brain if you can't understand what dropping the ball means.

From the coward azir: "Montenegrians hate to be with you and that's why they and ethnic Serbs in Montenegro voted out out of the lopsided federation.

Montenegrians are NOT Serbs.Need I say more...."

Yet another dumb, uneducated comment from the idiot of B92. The first Serbian King, Stefan Nemanja was born in Podgorica, the capital of Montenegro. The most famous Serb of all, Petar Petrovic Njegos, the famous Prince-Bishop, always referred to himslef as a Serb.

Your comments are too funny, azir. Keep them coming!

"The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue."

Balkan Anthropologist, probably you have been dismissed or expelled from the school if you are truly Anthropologist, or probably you have finished the University during Milosevic era, when he used to show you cartoons instead of true history, or even war crimes that happened in three regions. But anyway, let me show you something,

This is the route of the language: http://www.slmc.uottawa.ca/content_images/2xx007e.gif

Do you see that the only languages in Europe that are untouched during the history and they have it own route are: Greek, Armenian and Albanian.
Probably it says a lot, more than 1000 words, to show you that what you are saying does not comprise with reality, but anyway I understand you. About the issue that you are saying that Albanians want anything which is not theirs, trust me we don't want to be in your position, thus we do not like to be Serbs or take something from Serbs. I would be ashamed, trust me.

But anyway, still Good for you.

Bye and Cheers.

About the issue that you are saying that Albanians want anything which is not theirs, trust me we don't want to be in your position, thus we do not like to be Serbs or take something from Serbs. I would be ashamed, trust me.

But anyway, still Good for you.

Bye and Cheers.
(Kosovar Albanian, 13 December 2014 12:02)

Reall? How come you took Kosovo then and make claims on territories that belong to Serbia, Macedonia and Greece then?

Montenegrin people are South Slavs who are primarily associated with Montenegro. The matter of Montenegrin nationhood is a controversial issue, primarily among the Serbs. With regard to history, language, religion and ethnic origin, Montenegrins are most closely related to the Serbs, although there are links with the other South Slavs, too. Numerous historical documents confirm that Montenegrins have felt that they have Serbian ethnic identity. During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "Serbs of Montenegro are same in blood, language and aspiration, faith and heritage as people from Serbia and other Serb lands; We /Serbs and Montenegrins/ have common past which fills us up with enthusiasm, common ideals, heroes, sorrow and everything else that makes one nation really meaningful." Differences between Montenegrins and Serbs are a matter of continuing controversy. Although isolated from each other for centuries during the Ottoman period, when Albanian families came to dominate the intervening Kosovo region, both groups retained their Orthodox religious traditions and many other common cultural attributes—including the Cyrillic alphabet. Because of such obvious commonalities, most Serbs see Montenegrins as “Mountain Serbs,”

Serbs and Serbia was rejected by Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia,Kosova,Macedonia,Montenegro but somehow it's only indigenous authentic Shqiptare's fault.

The Hague is overflowing with despicable Slav Serb vermin.

Serbia trying to draw parallells between Albanians in Serbia 50 000-100 000 to serbs (?) in Albania (less than 50). What rights do albanians in Serbia have? The southern parts of Serbia where albanians live are the poorest in the entire country. The Serbian state has not invested a single cent there just so that the albanians living there would have no other choice but to leave, but fortunately some of them did not.

The matter of Montenegrin nationhood is a controversial issue, primarily among the Serbs.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

Oh OK, so who cares since it's not a controversial issue among the Montenegrins
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Numerous historical documents confirm that Montenegrins have felt that they have Serbian ethnic identity. During the existence of theocratic Montenegro, Princedom of Montenegro and Kingdom of Montenegro, absolutely all Montenegrins considered themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally.
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Because of such obvious commonalities, most Serbs see Montenegrins as “Mountain Serbs,”
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:51)

And who cares what Serbs see Montenegrins as?! What matters is what Monetenegrins see themselves as.

But anyway, let me show you something,

This is the route of the language: [link]
(Kosovar Albanian, 13 December 2014 12:02)

Great! What the Hell does this have to do with what I wrote? You can't throw a bunch of words in English together and hope it makes sense. I'm sure you thought you had a point to make but it seemed to have gotten lost in Google Translate. I couldn't care less about your linguistic roots.

Clearly, you're one of those people with a complex issue since you felt the need to respond but couldn't come up with anything relevant.

And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)
(icj1, 16 December 2014 09:03)

Show me evidence of that.

People should have their rights to exist as humans everywhere they live.We need to put the whole government (Serbian and Albanian) and some of the Balkan contries in a plane and send over Ukraine and then the people will have their rights the way they want them.Down with this criminal thievs so called governments.

You were and are hated by all the former groups in Yugoslavia and by the way by the rest of Europe aswell.
(Daniel, 12 December 2014 18:45)

You are correct. Almost all former groups in Yugoslavia did not want to be together with Serbs under the same country. Even the Montenegrins wanted nothing to do with Serbs. Whether you like it or not, that's what Montenegro decided, but you are free to live in denial if you so wish!

Everyone hates you criminals and you will be cut down to size and with your low birth rate and high death rate your contamination of Europe will inevitably be extinct.
(Azir, 13 December 2014 01:59)

Hush now. The adults are talking. Go play outside.

You are correct. Almost all former groups in Yugoslavia did not want to be together with Serbs under the same country. Even the Montenegrins wanted nothing to do with Serbs. Whether you like it or not, that's what Montenegro decided, but you are free to live in denial if you so wish!
(icj1, 13 December 2014 02:10)

Im not talking about us IM talking about you albanians. Everyone hated you and considerted you as a lower race, even the gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians.

"Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "

Use google if you know how to and you will see those documents for yourself. Also those are not my words but the words of the great Petar Petrovic Njegos, the most famous serbian writer and a Prince-Bishop of Montenegro but hey maybe an albanian knows more about how montenegrins view themselves than he does.
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That's your speculation. Provide evidence that "gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians". What we know for a fact is that almost all nationalities, including Montenegrins did not want to live together with Serbs in a single country!
(icj1, 15 December 2014 14:56)

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they? As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.

Nigro do you realize Montenegrians "love " you so much that they voted to seperate from your miserable. relationship.

VIVA Jasenovac ,Croatia and NATO.haha

(azir, 16 December 20
14 21:10)

VIVA Aleksandar Rankovic "Leka", compliments to Hoxha aswell that kept you on a short leish.

A Serb coming from the mountains of Iran is complaining about being oppressed in the land that he stole.
(Mark, 12 December 2014 16:17)

From who? Certainly not from you Turkish offshoots.

Serb never claim Slovenes, Croats or Bosnians are one of them.
Balkan Anthropologist

Weird. Many serbs to this day, including your hero Seselj, claim that Croats and Bosnianks are one of them. Strange that a so-called anthropologist doesn't know this much.

"The only group of people in the Balkans with an unhealthy fetish in claiming everything for themselves are Albanians, or more specifically Albanians with a complex issue."

Maybe that's true, maybe not. What I know for sure is it was Serbs who went on an ethnic cleansing campaign to get rid of non-Serbs and establish greater Serbia, thus wanting to claim everything for themselves. I don't think Serbs have a positive image across the world.
Of course, I don't know what 'everyone' thinks about the Albanians and Serbs. It seems that you and a few of your brethren are the chosen ones who seem to know everything.

You seem to think you're brighter than you are. I think there's a word for people like that.

Many serbs to this day, including your hero Seselj, claim that Croats and Bosnianks are one of them. Strange that a so-called anthropologist doesn't know this much.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

First, he's not my hero, nor is he a hero for the overwhelming majority of Serbs. He represents a party that last election received less than 5% of the vote. You might want to look at the calendar and realize 20 years have passed. If Seselj's all you've got in your argument, I needn't worry.

What I know for sure is it was Serbs who went on an ethnic cleansing campaign to get rid of non-Serbs and establish greater Serbia, thus wanting to claim everything for themselves.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

And so did Croats, and Albanians. You still seem to think this civil war in the 1990s was a one way street. But that's the usual default response from someone who can't think of anything else to say, since you clearly leave out the last 14 years of organized attacks against the remaining Serb minority in Kosovo, whom Albanians either dismiss as random and minor incidents, or consider justified reprisals for earlier events, and puts them on par with the people they claim to be above.

You seem to think you're brighter than you are. I think there's a word for people like that.
(cry me a river, 13 December 2014 15:23)

And you seem to think you have a point to make in this rebuttal. You'd do better just sticking to the nationalists around here.

Danilo please explain how indigenous Shqiptares can "claim" other people's land when by definition and historical fact we were there BEFORE Slav invasion.

Let me guess ......Serb logic is .......slavs invaded the Balkans and no one was around?

A handfull of ethnic Montenegrians in Albania goesn't get you a SERB Municipality.

"Yes, they "did" (past tense) and after seeing what living together with Serbs meant, they decided they no longer wanted to live together with Serbs. "

Well you could say the same thing about albanians right? They all lived with you too and now they dont and they werent the only ones that decided, serbs decided aswell that they didnt want to live with croats or bosnians.

VIVA Jasenovac ,Croatia and NATO.haha
(azir, 16 December 2014 21:10)
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Hey Danilo, I am waiting for you to condemn this statement and expose this worm as a hater.
Without pushing we woudln't hear a word against this post from you. I know it and you know it.
BUT, still let's hear it even if you need to be pushed.

300 to 400 montenegrins in albania became 30 000 serbs! That is funny! How come none of this people said anything of themself, but has to be herd from serbia which killed 11 000 albanians, 15 years ago. If they are 30000 'serbian' in albania then albanians in presheva valley should be 2 million. Some of those people in 1990-92 went once to serbia but did not like it and came back. Funny think with serbian politician is when they like to "protect" other minoritis like gypses. If we go with numbers that greece, serbia, montenegro and macedonia through there about they minority in albania add here and gypses, there will be a population of albania 5 million and there will be no albanian on it.

I was always against Serbia's accession to the EU but since reading the rantings of Crazy Albo I'm all for it as he/she has promised to do us all the favour of drowning in the Atlantic.

Peggy are you trying to tell us Danilo doesn't have a ball(s) but you do??

Peggy is that even natural? :)

What about the Seb minority in Chicago who out number Serbs in Kosova?

Will Serbia also demand a Municipality from President OBama?

The handfull of ethnic Slav Montenegrians in Albania can never be compared to Presheva,Medvedje and Bujanoc indigenous Eastern Kosova currently occupied by Infamous Serbian .

Peggy if I have no brain then you the make-believe Serb is a self confessed organ snatcher!

Nothing is stopping the Serb government to do anything about it. We have schools for Greeks that stay open even with 5 children. We have greek ministers, parliamentaries, vice- prime ministers etc etc.They are part of all fields of life. The Greek government was interested for them to have a better life and did something about it. Serbia in the meantime isn't interested at all about that. What Serbia is interested is to have muddy waters, so that when one mentions Presheva they can draw a parallel. Which is very stupid. Stupid because I have never seen a protest for more rights from the Vraka villagers. There's some sort of protest at least once a month in the country. Never seen a protest in Vraka for the past 24 years. Reason is simple.They don't feel the need to, no matter what paper pushers in Belgrade says.

.......and what's wrong with denying Serbs rights ! They (Serbs) denied rights to others during YU, why is this any different.

Chicago has more Serbs than Kosova and Albania combined.

Serbs demand a Municipality from President OBama and let us know how that works out for you :)

I suspect Serbs are trying to "kill" their enemies with their stupidity by making them "die laughing"

Where it was mentioned in this article that Serbia is being denied the right to protect the rights of Serbs or ethnic Serbs residing in Albania I hope it doesn't mean that Serbia wants to resolve this matter by means of an armed conflict against Albania,besides,armed conflicts are not always a solution,in some cases armed conflicts can prolong tense or strained relations and it shouldn't take a genius to figure out why.

In Albania there are no Serb minority, but two trailers of Albanians traitors, collaborators of Serbia.

Sure, when are you able to travel to come and meet them?
(icj1, 17 December 2014 21:05)

It can be solved much easier, interview them and put up a video of it on youtube. You always ask for proof from others now come up with evidence yourself.

"Please provide statements from all Montenegrins where they consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally. "

Use google if you know how to and you will see those documents for yourself. Also those are not my words but the words of the great Petar Petrovic Njegos, the most famous serbian writer and a Prince-Bishop of Montenegro
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 19:00)

That does not make that claim true - they are not God. You (or whoever you quoted) stated that "all Montenegrins consider themselves as Serbs nationally and Montenegrins regionally". That can't be trusted until you (or whoever you quoted) provides evidence that each and every Montenegrin said that.
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but hey maybe an albanian knows more about how montenegrins view themselves than he does.
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 19:00)

I did not claim that. I just asked for evidence about "all montenegrins" not just "montenegrins".
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Im not talking about us IM talking about you albanians. Everyone hated you and considerted you as a lower race, even the gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians.
(Daniel, 14 December 2014 18:54)

That's your speculation. Provide evidence that "gypsys were more valued than you amongst serbs, muslims, croats, slovenes and macedonians". What we know for a fact is that almost all nationalities, including Montenegrins did not want to live together with Serbs in a single country!

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they?
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Yes, they "did" (past tense) and after seeing what living together with Serbs meant, they decided they no longer wanted to live together with Serbs.
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As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Macedonians, slovenians, croats, montenegrins, bosnians or albanians all choose not to live in the same country with Serbs... That's a fact.

Whereas your claim "they considered you as subhumans and a lower race" is, well, just a claim of yours for which you provided no evidence at all that macedonians, slovenians, croats, montenegrins or bosnians said that. And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)

Well they actually did live in a single country with serbs for more than 50 years now didnt they? As far as what other people in the former yugo thinks about albanians its a well known fact that they considered you as subhumans and a lower race, if you dont believe me go ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin or bosnian what they actually think about you and you will see for yourself cause whatever proof I provide you with you will find a way to twist and turn it into your own favor.
(Daniel, 15 December 2014 18:19)

Thank you for stating this. This is the crux of the issue. This is why Kosova cannot and is not under Serbia. It is not in the human nature to accept to be seen and viewed as subhuman by "your own country". It is not in the human nature to treat those they see as subhumans and unworthy in a just and fair way. This spells eternal conflict. If seek war and bloodshed then you seek Kosova to be subjugated by Serbia. It is as simple as that.

And I did indeed ask a macedonian, slovenian, croat, montenegrin and bosnian and all 5 of them denied what you said :)
(icj1, 16 December 2014 09:03)

Show me evidence of that.
(Daniel, 16 December 2014 12:39)

Sure, when are you able to travel to come and meet them?