Then obviously you didn't really search. In any case, you don't have to believe or understand what I'm talking about. Serbs know what I'm talking about.
It has always been different. If you were so interested in understanding why, you would simply open a history book.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 14 December 2014 17:58)
I did and found no difference. Russians and Ukrainians were as brothers as Greeks and Serbs until a year ago.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47
News travels slow in Greece, doesn't it? As the rest of the world knew of this condition at least 4 years now. Hopefully, you react a little quicker in emergencies.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
You are really becoming a hoot you know it, Look at the time stamps on the posts, mine was posted at 01:21 Serbian time which is 7:21 pm Eastern time zone, yours was posted at 10:47 which in Eastern time zone(by the way US has 4 time zones) it would be 4:47 in the morning. It is now 6:34 in the morning here, a normal time to get up and drink coffee before heading off to work.
But time zones or postings matter not, nor whether I am American or Albanian or what you think I am, nor whether you are really Greek or Serbian. None of that changes the fact that what you posted originally and since then are nothing more than fabrications that do not even possess an ounce of credibility.
Now if you want to continue to exchange comments on the time of day or my national affiliation, or my sleep habits, or even what I had for breakfast today, it is ok as it will not make what you say more accurate. Those who choose to believe it will and the people who really know anything about Kosovo will not.
During the conflict and right after there may have been some people sent to Greece due to injuries from ethnic tensions, I can't say. But for the last 10 years the chances are slim to zero. And NATO has never asked for anyone to live on the Kfor military bases "for their protection"
Now maybe you want to discuss what color shirt I am going to wear today? My guess yours is white and the sleeves tie together in the back.
Check on youtube the Greeks who demonstrated 3 days ago at 6 pm in front of the American Embassy in Thessaloniki, you will see me there.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right? All Albanians know, so you should too.
By the way, what time is it now in the States? 5 am? 4 am? I guess you suffer from insomnia, poor "American".
Hahaga, if you are American this site is Japanese. Same odds.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 19:24)
More American than you are Greek, I can assure you.
Kind of a coincidence that you show up on B92 the same time as Andreas to show the Greek undying love for Serbs and hatred for Albanians.
Mina,
Before 2006 what you say was true, I had no idea where Kosovo was until someone told me it was in the former Yugoslavia. Then I spent the next three years there. I left with the takeover of EULEX.
But you know it does not matter what my ethnic origin is (which is good as most Americans do not really know their ancestry nor really care) I was there the day Kosovo declared independence and fully support it.
Are you American? Really? You mean you are one of those people who are born and raised in USA and can't even find Kosovo and Metohija on the map? Wow, now I'm really impressed..! You Albanians must be really desperate.
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 16:36)
I have no idea what this was suppose to mean, maybe having a bit of problem with English are we??? Also I do not visit British sites, I said English sites, there is no British language, by the way I am American(in case you did not know English is the primary language in the US), but would not have a problem being Albanian.
Don't know who these 200 Greeks who returned from Urosevac, but they were not with Kfor as there are only 118 Greeks in the current Kfor as of 2013. Urosevac is in the Camp Bondsteel area of control and its hospital is not staffed with anything other than US doctors, so doubt they sent any Serbian women to Greece, and I KNOW no civilians live on camp Bondsteel.
Since you are up to date on EU articles on Albanians, I am sure that you have read that there is no evidence found to support the organ harvesting rumors.
Veto coalition? It does not matter how many countries you have in your "coalition" as long as there is no such thing as veto in the UNGA. Hope you all have a good meeting as it means nothing. Now if you come up with close to 100 votes then you might have something. But then again since there have been 106 recognitions that only leaves 84 that have not done so officially and only about 30 total that have refused to do so.
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
The only Greek soldiers who returned recently to Greece from Kosovo were 200 Greek men who were in Urosevac.
About the Serbian women in the Greek hospitals, my mother operated several surgeries, so I have a personal idea about how Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija brutalized Serbs. But it's all recorded by the UN anyway. Everybody knows what you did to Serbs. Since you read sites in British as you claim, haven't you read what the European press says about the crimes conducted by Albanians against Serbs? About killing them and selling their organs? About the KLA leaders that the EU wants to try for war crimes? Well on the top of that add the Serbian women who were brought in Greece too, because you are not getting away with it that easy.
It's not just Greece in the veto coalition, do you think it's just us? Let me repeat: If you were so sure and relaxed about the future of Kosovo and Metohija, you wouldn't be here.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 12:24)
You are way too easy. Greece has NO base their military serve on one or more of the established military bases. They have less than 120 soldiers they live on the bases and NO civilians live on any of the bases (for protection) This was NOT asked by NATO of the Greeks.
Again if there were any Serb women brutalized in Kosovo by Albanians, it would be extremely well publicized, and Serbs would not go to an Albanian hospital in Kosovo much less be refused treatment, they would go to the Serbian facilities and to Belgrade.
You Say
"So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that."
Curious as to how you can veto if you have no power to veto. Greece can vote no and it is 1 vote among the 190 countries. There is no VETO in the UNGA, only in the UNSC and the US, Russia, France, China, and UK possess that power only always have since the beginning of the UN and not likely to change.
As far as me reading a Serbian site, first what does it matter to you? Second I read several English version sites in the Balkans to keep up with what is going on. I like B92 as it seems to have a lot of posters who pose as those who know a lot but it very transparent they know very little.
Greece does have veto power over membership in the EU but not really in a position to exercise it at the present!
The Greek Army is all over Kosovo, it's one of the very few Armies which were asked to cover all areas of Kosovo. In Southern Kosovo Serbs live with them for protection, because NATO asked that. Not us, not Serbia. NATO.
The women who are brought in Greece are brought by NATO. It's not us saying, it's NATO which says what happened to them. And it's all recorded. Many of them got paralyzed. It's all recorded and sent to the UN.
About veto, let me give you a very simple example: If Spain allows KiM to join the UN, the Vasques and the Catalans the next day will have a revolution, will seek to be recognized as independent and if they ask the UN to become UN members, Spain will have the LEGAL OBLIGATION to accept it. So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that.
But let me ask you something, because I'm really curious. If you are so sure that everything will work out well for the Albanians in Kosovo, why are you in a Serbian site? For instance, I am in a Serbian site because in Greece we love Serbs, so we always keep some contact with them. How about you? Are you that worried that you actually visit a Serbian site and try to convince Serbs that you won? If you won, you don't really need to put an effort writing in Serbian sites, do you?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 7 December 2014 15:05)
Aren't we the knowledgeable one.
Don't know where these Serbian's you speak of live but it is not on any base. While I was in Kosovo I visited all the major bases there and I do not remember the Greeks having their own base, and with less than 120 military there now I doubt one exists today. Most of the smaller forces are conscentrated with other militaries.
You are right it only takes one veto to stop UN membership but that is among the UNSC permanent members. Your 30 that refuse are just 30 members and 30 votes against more than 100 yes votes. Greece is powerless in blocking UN membership. Russia is the only real veto Serbia can count on, for now. China has never said anything about vetoing UN membership of Kosovo, although many on here and in Serbia who want to speak for China have claimed it. But it goes against the grain of China, China has rarely used its veto power, it usually will abstain from a vote it does not agree with the chamber if a majority supports something(unless it affects them directly) Russia's stance has more to do with the US than Serbia, so due to the global atmosphere that too could change.
These women you speak of, if they exist, are more likely victims of the huge domestic abuse problem Serbia suffers from. Any attacks on women at the scale you mention would be very highly publicized. I mean an old woman throwing rocks at a bus gets headlines.
Many Serbs in southern Kosovo STILL live in the NATO Base (Greek side of the Base only), because Albanians vandalized their houses. The situation is very bad so, many of them live with the Greek Army for protection. In the hospitals of Thessaloniki(northern Greece) Army doctors send us urgently Serbian women very often. These women do not live in the Base. They get attacked and brutalized by Albanians in Kosovo and then Kosovo refuses to offer hospitalization to them. All these are reported to the UN (UNHCR reports). In 1999 the West had its interests in the dissolution of Yugoslavia, so they used media propaganda to trash Serbia. Now that Alboland applied for candidacy in the EU, westerns trash Albanians using REAL facts, because they don't want Albanian immigrants moving to their counties once Albania (if ever) joins the EU. I'll send you some links to see what Europe believes about them (Britain, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Czech Republic etc said in June 2014 that they are against Albania's candidacy unless the crime rate in Albania gets REALLY low). And by the way, given the UN reports and the 30 UN members that refuse to recognize KiM, Kosovo cannot become a UN member. Even 1 veto is enough and we are 30. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28541560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuWI7erUb1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiVNQpfsEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ADK92ykCc
Our love and support to the bravest nation in the history of Europe.
Daniel said:
...if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately...
Lots of Serbs and Serb flags were seen at the Orthodox church opening in Tirana, nobody cared or felt provoked, see link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-XpKHfwxI
The common enemy of albanians and serbs is POVERTY not rights.
Failure of the politician to improve the economy will always result in witch hunting, what better than to inflame old hatred between peoples.
Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
(Daniel, 5 December 2014 15:04)
Daniel,
Actually, awhile ago when the new Albanian Orthodox Church opened in Tirana, Serb bishops, priests, and their followers were invited to attend the ceremony. The young Serb men with the group were waving big Serbian flags all over downtown Tirana. We Albanians generally ignored them, although, there were some people who were laughing at the Serb flag waivers.
To Truth Hurts! You conveniently omitted the following statement:
"Prosecutor Williamson explained that there was not enough evidence for any organ-trafficking indictments yet, but prosecutions could not be ruled out in the future." However, the statement: "Nothing can be ruled out in the future." can apply to just about anything. Therefore, it is meaningless!
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
(snow job, 5 December 2014 23:12)
I can attest to this type of shameful behavior, one of my new neighbors from Kosovo has been bragging that he committed such fraud. To make matters worse, he acts very proud of it.
Nice little story for the UNSC, of course anyone who really has been to Kosovo knows that Serbs actually live better than most of their Albanian neighbors because they also draw checks from the Serbian govt. Most of the fear stories are hype for the govt. Vandalism like in most nearly every country in the world is usually on abandoned property and cemetaries.
Graffiti on buildings is a shame but not really news worthy.
Read the posts on here, in order to try to paint the dangerous picture posters rely on the organ harvesting rumor that has pretty much been debunked, crimes committed in Serbian close knit neighborhoods where Albanians would have been noticed meaning usually Serb on Serb crimes.
A bus going by an elderly woman with riders making obscene gestures and comments and she picks up a rock and throws at the bus and it is reported as "ethnic cleansing" and that Serbs are afraid.
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
Abeis,
you suggest that just because those serbs who remained in kosovo disagreed with the politicing, that it is a reasonable to punish them for practicing their democratic right to an opinion (or is kosovo not democratic. if that's the case, there is no argument). both serb and kosovo governments claim the land and the people on it. however, kosovo government doesn't want serb government to meddle, thus it falls squarely on their shoulders to carry the burden of those people who live in the territory that they wish to govern.
you can't blame belgrade from pristina when you won't allow belgrade to help them, how they wish it.
if kosovo wishes to actually be a modern democratic nation, it has to start acting that way, by doing the hard things.
i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
(Abeis, 5 December 2014 15:49)
You DO know that Albanians are stepping over one another to get out of Kosovo too right? I mean it's not just Serbs that live in ghettos in Kosovo, but Albanians as well. With the exception of the privileged elite in Pristina who made their money in the 90's through drugs and weapons smuggling, Albanians are just as poor and miserable as Serbs and will leave as soon as they have a chance.
Diplodocus misses the days when Albanians lived as privilidged vassals of the Ottoman Empire and christians were not even third class. I'm surprised that no one has accused Enver Hoxa of being a Serb! They missed out on that one big time.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
lbanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Where is the proof? On the contrary albanians just like other minorities live very well in Serbia and are never attacked based on their ethnicity while in Kosovo its enough to speak serbian to get killed. Burning of monesterys, churches, stones throwed at serbian children that are going to school thats everyday occasions in Kosovo so dont come here and try to compare the serbs situtation in Kosovo with the albanians in Serbia. If serbs in kosovo had only 10%of the rights that the albanians have in Serbia it would be good. Employment is the same as for other minorities, newspapers and tv-channels in albanian are just a few examples. Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
it's downright your fault that local serbs are living in ghetos all over Kosova because your government pressure them to not recognize Kosova's institution. Vucic and his ilk are not concerned much about their brethren in kosova but only how to gain profit for themselves by putting forward nationalist claims. belgrade why is so bloody hard to understand that kosova has long been gone and there is virtually no chance of getting back it for a myriad of reasons. the serb minority, whose numbers are grossly inflated, is aging by the way and most of the young people are willing to emigrate in Serbia. i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Show me even an Albanian source that says Albanians in Presevo are being attacked by Serbs on a daily basis. In fact, show me anything in your comment isn't just a figment of your imagination.
On the other hand, the open hunt for Serbs south of the Ibar river is very real indeed. Obviously Mitrovica Serbs are safe because they are concentrated up there. Albanian ultra nationalists/ISIS sympathizers target Serbian ethnic ghettos in the south and when they aren't doing that, they are instilling fear with messages like these:
Nice speech, but this is old news and it means nothing to the US & EU who created this illegal hell hole. As usual, the West is quite happy to sit back and let the Serbs quietly get wiped out by these albanian terrorists!
"Even after an entire century of conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians, this government has made a step forward that can most certainly be called historic - this government has chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death, Vucic said."
Must one thank you for this 'change of heart'? Or must one thank NATO, EU and the international community for stopping you in your century-old policy of "conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians...?" A policy of colonialism and extermination drafted by the 'academia' and implemented by every regime in Belgrade since 1878, for which no Serb has ever apologized. Must one thank you for stopping the killings and pillaging?
At last a Serb PM is being honest for once. Yes you have "chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death..." after being forced to.
Now Serbia must show that it really means it and that it wants stability and lasting peace. It must confront its past crimes and its victims and says SORRY, humbly, so we can all move on. The aggressor must never equate itself with the victim! It’s a matter of basic human principle without which there can be no justice or lasting peace.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Show me even an Albanian source that says Albanians in Presevo are being attacked by Serbs on a daily basis. In fact, show me anything in your comment isn't just a figment of your imagination.
On the other hand, the open hunt for Serbs south of the Ibar river is very real indeed. Obviously Mitrovica Serbs are safe because they are concentrated up there. Albanian ultra nationalists/ISIS sympathizers target Serbian ethnic ghettos in the south and when they aren't doing that, they are instilling fear with messages like these:
Nice speech, but this is old news and it means nothing to the US & EU who created this illegal hell hole. As usual, the West is quite happy to sit back and let the Serbs quietly get wiped out by these albanian terrorists!
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
lbanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Where is the proof? On the contrary albanians just like other minorities live very well in Serbia and are never attacked based on their ethnicity while in Kosovo its enough to speak serbian to get killed. Burning of monesterys, churches, stones throwed at serbian children that are going to school thats everyday occasions in Kosovo so dont come here and try to compare the serbs situtation in Kosovo with the albanians in Serbia. If serbs in kosovo had only 10%of the rights that the albanians have in Serbia it would be good. Employment is the same as for other minorities, newspapers and tv-channels in albanian are just a few examples. Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
(Abeis, 5 December 2014 15:49)
You DO know that Albanians are stepping over one another to get out of Kosovo too right? I mean it's not just Serbs that live in ghettos in Kosovo, but Albanians as well. With the exception of the privileged elite in Pristina who made their money in the 90's through drugs and weapons smuggling, Albanians are just as poor and miserable as Serbs and will leave as soon as they have a chance.
"Even after an entire century of conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians, this government has made a step forward that can most certainly be called historic - this government has chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death, Vucic said."
Must one thank you for this 'change of heart'? Or must one thank NATO, EU and the international community for stopping you in your century-old policy of "conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians...?" A policy of colonialism and extermination drafted by the 'academia' and implemented by every regime in Belgrade since 1878, for which no Serb has ever apologized. Must one thank you for stopping the killings and pillaging?
At last a Serb PM is being honest for once. Yes you have "chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death..." after being forced to.
Now Serbia must show that it really means it and that it wants stability and lasting peace. It must confront its past crimes and its victims and says SORRY, humbly, so we can all move on. The aggressor must never equate itself with the victim! It’s a matter of basic human principle without which there can be no justice or lasting peace.
Diplodocus misses the days when Albanians lived as privilidged vassals of the Ottoman Empire and christians were not even third class. I'm surprised that no one has accused Enver Hoxa of being a Serb! They missed out on that one big time.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
Nice little story for the UNSC, of course anyone who really has been to Kosovo knows that Serbs actually live better than most of their Albanian neighbors because they also draw checks from the Serbian govt. Most of the fear stories are hype for the govt. Vandalism like in most nearly every country in the world is usually on abandoned property and cemetaries.
Graffiti on buildings is a shame but not really news worthy.
Read the posts on here, in order to try to paint the dangerous picture posters rely on the organ harvesting rumor that has pretty much been debunked, crimes committed in Serbian close knit neighborhoods where Albanians would have been noticed meaning usually Serb on Serb crimes.
A bus going by an elderly woman with riders making obscene gestures and comments and she picks up a rock and throws at the bus and it is reported as "ethnic cleansing" and that Serbs are afraid.
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
it's downright your fault that local serbs are living in ghetos all over Kosova because your government pressure them to not recognize Kosova's institution. Vucic and his ilk are not concerned much about their brethren in kosova but only how to gain profit for themselves by putting forward nationalist claims. belgrade why is so bloody hard to understand that kosova has long been gone and there is virtually no chance of getting back it for a myriad of reasons. the serb minority, whose numbers are grossly inflated, is aging by the way and most of the young people are willing to emigrate in Serbia. i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
Abeis,
you suggest that just because those serbs who remained in kosovo disagreed with the politicing, that it is a reasonable to punish them for practicing their democratic right to an opinion (or is kosovo not democratic. if that's the case, there is no argument). both serb and kosovo governments claim the land and the people on it. however, kosovo government doesn't want serb government to meddle, thus it falls squarely on their shoulders to carry the burden of those people who live in the territory that they wish to govern.
you can't blame belgrade from pristina when you won't allow belgrade to help them, how they wish it.
if kosovo wishes to actually be a modern democratic nation, it has to start acting that way, by doing the hard things.
Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
(Daniel, 5 December 2014 15:04)
Daniel,
Actually, awhile ago when the new Albanian Orthodox Church opened in Tirana, Serb bishops, priests, and their followers were invited to attend the ceremony. The young Serb men with the group were waving big Serbian flags all over downtown Tirana. We Albanians generally ignored them, although, there were some people who were laughing at the Serb flag waivers.
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
(snow job, 5 December 2014 23:12)
I can attest to this type of shameful behavior, one of my new neighbors from Kosovo has been bragging that he committed such fraud. To make matters worse, he acts very proud of it.
Daniel said:
...if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately...
Lots of Serbs and Serb flags were seen at the Orthodox church opening in Tirana, nobody cared or felt provoked, see link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-XpKHfwxI
The common enemy of albanians and serbs is POVERTY not rights.
Failure of the politician to improve the economy will always result in witch hunting, what better than to inflame old hatred between peoples.
Many Serbs in southern Kosovo STILL live in the NATO Base (Greek side of the Base only), because Albanians vandalized their houses. The situation is very bad so, many of them live with the Greek Army for protection. In the hospitals of Thessaloniki(northern Greece) Army doctors send us urgently Serbian women very often. These women do not live in the Base. They get attacked and brutalized by Albanians in Kosovo and then Kosovo refuses to offer hospitalization to them. All these are reported to the UN (UNHCR reports). In 1999 the West had its interests in the dissolution of Yugoslavia, so they used media propaganda to trash Serbia. Now that Alboland applied for candidacy in the EU, westerns trash Albanians using REAL facts, because they don't want Albanian immigrants moving to their counties once Albania (if ever) joins the EU. I'll send you some links to see what Europe believes about them (Britain, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Czech Republic etc said in June 2014 that they are against Albania's candidacy unless the crime rate in Albania gets REALLY low). And by the way, given the UN reports and the 30 UN members that refuse to recognize KiM, Kosovo cannot become a UN member. Even 1 veto is enough and we are 30. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28541560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuWI7erUb1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiVNQpfsEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ADK92ykCc
Our love and support to the bravest nation in the history of Europe.
To Truth Hurts! You conveniently omitted the following statement:
"Prosecutor Williamson explained that there was not enough evidence for any organ-trafficking indictments yet, but prosecutions could not be ruled out in the future." However, the statement: "Nothing can be ruled out in the future." can apply to just about anything. Therefore, it is meaningless!
The Greek Army is all over Kosovo, it's one of the very few Armies which were asked to cover all areas of Kosovo. In Southern Kosovo Serbs live with them for protection, because NATO asked that. Not us, not Serbia. NATO.
The women who are brought in Greece are brought by NATO. It's not us saying, it's NATO which says what happened to them. And it's all recorded. Many of them got paralyzed. It's all recorded and sent to the UN.
About veto, let me give you a very simple example: If Spain allows KiM to join the UN, the Vasques and the Catalans the next day will have a revolution, will seek to be recognized as independent and if they ask the UN to become UN members, Spain will have the LEGAL OBLIGATION to accept it. So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that.
But let me ask you something, because I'm really curious. If you are so sure that everything will work out well for the Albanians in Kosovo, why are you in a Serbian site? For instance, I am in a Serbian site because in Greece we love Serbs, so we always keep some contact with them. How about you? Are you that worried that you actually visit a Serbian site and try to convince Serbs that you won? If you won, you don't really need to put an effort writing in Serbian sites, do you?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
You are really becoming a hoot you know it, Look at the time stamps on the posts, mine was posted at 01:21 Serbian time which is 7:21 pm Eastern time zone, yours was posted at 10:47 which in Eastern time zone(by the way US has 4 time zones) it would be 4:47 in the morning. It is now 6:34 in the morning here, a normal time to get up and drink coffee before heading off to work.
But time zones or postings matter not, nor whether I am American or Albanian or what you think I am, nor whether you are really Greek or Serbian. None of that changes the fact that what you posted originally and since then are nothing more than fabrications that do not even possess an ounce of credibility.
Now if you want to continue to exchange comments on the time of day or my national affiliation, or my sleep habits, or even what I had for breakfast today, it is ok as it will not make what you say more accurate. Those who choose to believe it will and the people who really know anything about Kosovo will not.
During the conflict and right after there may have been some people sent to Greece due to injuries from ethnic tensions, I can't say. But for the last 10 years the chances are slim to zero. And NATO has never asked for anyone to live on the Kfor military bases "for their protection"
Now maybe you want to discuss what color shirt I am going to wear today? My guess yours is white and the sleeves tie together in the back.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 7 December 2014 15:05)
Aren't we the knowledgeable one.
Don't know where these Serbian's you speak of live but it is not on any base. While I was in Kosovo I visited all the major bases there and I do not remember the Greeks having their own base, and with less than 120 military there now I doubt one exists today. Most of the smaller forces are conscentrated with other militaries.
You are right it only takes one veto to stop UN membership but that is among the UNSC permanent members. Your 30 that refuse are just 30 members and 30 votes against more than 100 yes votes. Greece is powerless in blocking UN membership. Russia is the only real veto Serbia can count on, for now. China has never said anything about vetoing UN membership of Kosovo, although many on here and in Serbia who want to speak for China have claimed it. But it goes against the grain of China, China has rarely used its veto power, it usually will abstain from a vote it does not agree with the chamber if a majority supports something(unless it affects them directly) Russia's stance has more to do with the US than Serbia, so due to the global atmosphere that too could change.
These women you speak of, if they exist, are more likely victims of the huge domestic abuse problem Serbia suffers from. Any attacks on women at the scale you mention would be very highly publicized. I mean an old woman throwing rocks at a bus gets headlines.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 12:24)
You are way too easy. Greece has NO base their military serve on one or more of the established military bases. They have less than 120 soldiers they live on the bases and NO civilians live on any of the bases (for protection) This was NOT asked by NATO of the Greeks.
Again if there were any Serb women brutalized in Kosovo by Albanians, it would be extremely well publicized, and Serbs would not go to an Albanian hospital in Kosovo much less be refused treatment, they would go to the Serbian facilities and to Belgrade.
You Say
"So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that."
Curious as to how you can veto if you have no power to veto. Greece can vote no and it is 1 vote among the 190 countries. There is no VETO in the UNGA, only in the UNSC and the US, Russia, France, China, and UK possess that power only always have since the beginning of the UN and not likely to change.
As far as me reading a Serbian site, first what does it matter to you? Second I read several English version sites in the Balkans to keep up with what is going on. I like B92 as it seems to have a lot of posters who pose as those who know a lot but it very transparent they know very little.
Greece does have veto power over membership in the EU but not really in a position to exercise it at the present!
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
The only Greek soldiers who returned recently to Greece from Kosovo were 200 Greek men who were in Urosevac.
About the Serbian women in the Greek hospitals, my mother operated several surgeries, so I have a personal idea about how Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija brutalized Serbs. But it's all recorded by the UN anyway. Everybody knows what you did to Serbs. Since you read sites in British as you claim, haven't you read what the European press says about the crimes conducted by Albanians against Serbs? About killing them and selling their organs? About the KLA leaders that the EU wants to try for war crimes? Well on the top of that add the Serbian women who were brought in Greece too, because you are not getting away with it that easy.
It's not just Greece in the veto coalition, do you think it's just us? Let me repeat: If you were so sure and relaxed about the future of Kosovo and Metohija, you wouldn't be here.
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 16:36)
I have no idea what this was suppose to mean, maybe having a bit of problem with English are we??? Also I do not visit British sites, I said English sites, there is no British language, by the way I am American(in case you did not know English is the primary language in the US), but would not have a problem being Albanian.
Don't know who these 200 Greeks who returned from Urosevac, but they were not with Kfor as there are only 118 Greeks in the current Kfor as of 2013. Urosevac is in the Camp Bondsteel area of control and its hospital is not staffed with anything other than US doctors, so doubt they sent any Serbian women to Greece, and I KNOW no civilians live on camp Bondsteel.
Since you are up to date on EU articles on Albanians, I am sure that you have read that there is no evidence found to support the organ harvesting rumors.
Veto coalition? It does not matter how many countries you have in your "coalition" as long as there is no such thing as veto in the UNGA. Hope you all have a good meeting as it means nothing. Now if you come up with close to 100 votes then you might have something. But then again since there have been 106 recognitions that only leaves 84 that have not done so officially and only about 30 total that have refused to do so.
Are you American? Really? You mean you are one of those people who are born and raised in USA and can't even find Kosovo and Metohija on the map? Wow, now I'm really impressed..! You Albanians must be really desperate.
Hahaga, if you are American this site is Japanese. Same odds.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 19:24)
More American than you are Greek, I can assure you.
Kind of a coincidence that you show up on B92 the same time as Andreas to show the Greek undying love for Serbs and hatred for Albanians.
Mina,
Before 2006 what you say was true, I had no idea where Kosovo was until someone told me it was in the former Yugoslavia. Then I spent the next three years there. I left with the takeover of EULEX.
But you know it does not matter what my ethnic origin is (which is good as most Americans do not really know their ancestry nor really care) I was there the day Kosovo declared independence and fully support it.
Check on youtube the Greeks who demonstrated 3 days ago at 6 pm in front of the American Embassy in Thessaloniki, you will see me there.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right? All Albanians know, so you should too.
By the way, what time is it now in the States? 5 am? 4 am? I guess you suffer from insomnia, poor "American".
Then obviously you didn't really search. In any case, you don't have to believe or understand what I'm talking about. Serbs know what I'm talking about.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47
News travels slow in Greece, doesn't it? As the rest of the world knew of this condition at least 4 years now. Hopefully, you react a little quicker in emergencies.
It has always been different. If you were so interested in understanding why, you would simply open a history book.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 14 December 2014 17:58)
I did and found no difference. Russians and Ukrainians were as brothers as Greeks and Serbs until a year ago.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
"Even after an entire century of conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians, this government has made a step forward that can most certainly be called historic - this government has chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death, Vucic said."
Must one thank you for this 'change of heart'? Or must one thank NATO, EU and the international community for stopping you in your century-old policy of "conflicts, wars, victims.., with regards to ethnic Albanians...?" A policy of colonialism and extermination drafted by the 'academia' and implemented by every regime in Belgrade since 1878, for which no Serb has ever apologized. Must one thank you for stopping the killings and pillaging?
At last a Serb PM is being honest for once. Yes you have "chosen dialogue rather than conflict, solutions rather than problems and, most importantly, life rather than death..." after being forced to.
Now Serbia must show that it really means it and that it wants stability and lasting peace. It must confront its past crimes and its victims and says SORRY, humbly, so we can all move on. The aggressor must never equate itself with the victim! It’s a matter of basic human principle without which there can be no justice or lasting peace.
Nice little story for the UNSC, of course anyone who really has been to Kosovo knows that Serbs actually live better than most of their Albanian neighbors because they also draw checks from the Serbian govt. Most of the fear stories are hype for the govt. Vandalism like in most nearly every country in the world is usually on abandoned property and cemetaries.
Graffiti on buildings is a shame but not really news worthy.
Read the posts on here, in order to try to paint the dangerous picture posters rely on the organ harvesting rumor that has pretty much been debunked, crimes committed in Serbian close knit neighborhoods where Albanians would have been noticed meaning usually Serb on Serb crimes.
A bus going by an elderly woman with riders making obscene gestures and comments and she picks up a rock and throws at the bus and it is reported as "ethnic cleansing" and that Serbs are afraid.
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
Nice speech, but this is old news and it means nothing to the US & EU who created this illegal hell hole. As usual, the West is quite happy to sit back and let the Serbs quietly get wiped out by these albanian terrorists!
it's downright your fault that local serbs are living in ghetos all over Kosova because your government pressure them to not recognize Kosova's institution. Vucic and his ilk are not concerned much about their brethren in kosova but only how to gain profit for themselves by putting forward nationalist claims. belgrade why is so bloody hard to understand that kosova has long been gone and there is virtually no chance of getting back it for a myriad of reasons. the serb minority, whose numbers are grossly inflated, is aging by the way and most of the young people are willing to emigrate in Serbia. i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Show me even an Albanian source that says Albanians in Presevo are being attacked by Serbs on a daily basis. In fact, show me anything in your comment isn't just a figment of your imagination.
On the other hand, the open hunt for Serbs south of the Ibar river is very real indeed. Obviously Mitrovica Serbs are safe because they are concentrated up there. Albanian ultra nationalists/ISIS sympathizers target Serbian ethnic ghettos in the south and when they aren't doing that, they are instilling fear with messages like these:
lbanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Where is the proof? On the contrary albanians just like other minorities live very well in Serbia and are never attacked based on their ethnicity while in Kosovo its enough to speak serbian to get killed. Burning of monesterys, churches, stones throwed at serbian children that are going to school thats everyday occasions in Kosovo so dont come here and try to compare the serbs situtation in Kosovo with the albanians in Serbia. If serbs in kosovo had only 10%of the rights that the albanians have in Serbia it would be good. Employment is the same as for other minorities, newspapers and tv-channels in albanian are just a few examples. Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
Albanians in Serbia lack even minimal rights. They live in slums, they have no jobs, they are being attacked by the serbs on a daily basis, they are not allowed to carry their national flag in public etc.
(sss4, 5 December 2014 11:54)
Diplodocus misses the days when Albanians lived as privilidged vassals of the Ottoman Empire and christians were not even third class. I'm surprised that no one has accused Enver Hoxa of being a Serb! They missed out on that one big time.
i reckon that for a short period, the number of serbs in kosova will shrink to 10.000.
(Abeis, 5 December 2014 15:49)
You DO know that Albanians are stepping over one another to get out of Kosovo too right? I mean it's not just Serbs that live in ghettos in Kosovo, but Albanians as well. With the exception of the privileged elite in Pristina who made their money in the 90's through drugs and weapons smuggling, Albanians are just as poor and miserable as Serbs and will leave as soon as they have a chance.
Abeis,
you suggest that just because those serbs who remained in kosovo disagreed with the politicing, that it is a reasonable to punish them for practicing their democratic right to an opinion (or is kosovo not democratic. if that's the case, there is no argument). both serb and kosovo governments claim the land and the people on it. however, kosovo government doesn't want serb government to meddle, thus it falls squarely on their shoulders to carry the burden of those people who live in the territory that they wish to govern.
you can't blame belgrade from pristina when you won't allow belgrade to help them, how they wish it.
if kosovo wishes to actually be a modern democratic nation, it has to start acting that way, by doing the hard things.
Last but not least of course we will not allow you to provoke us with albanian flags in Serbia, if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately.
(Daniel, 5 December 2014 15:04)
Daniel,
Actually, awhile ago when the new Albanian Orthodox Church opened in Tirana, Serb bishops, priests, and their followers were invited to attend the ceremony. The young Serb men with the group were waving big Serbian flags all over downtown Tirana. We Albanians generally ignored them, although, there were some people who were laughing at the Serb flag waivers.
Serbs receive funds to rebuild houses for their return and then they move back to Serbia sell off the materials and then claim that Albanians broke in and stole them. Then the Serbian govt says they fear for their lives and will not return to Kosovo it is unsafe.
(snow job, 5 December 2014 23:12)
I can attest to this type of shameful behavior, one of my new neighbors from Kosovo has been bragging that he committed such fraud. To make matters worse, he acts very proud of it.
Daniel said:
...if anyone would try to wawe a serbian flag in Tirana or Pristina he would be killed immediately...
Lots of Serbs and Serb flags were seen at the Orthodox church opening in Tirana, nobody cared or felt provoked, see link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-XpKHfwxI
The common enemy of albanians and serbs is POVERTY not rights.
Failure of the politician to improve the economy will always result in witch hunting, what better than to inflame old hatred between peoples.
Many Serbs in southern Kosovo STILL live in the NATO Base (Greek side of the Base only), because Albanians vandalized their houses. The situation is very bad so, many of them live with the Greek Army for protection. In the hospitals of Thessaloniki(northern Greece) Army doctors send us urgently Serbian women very often. These women do not live in the Base. They get attacked and brutalized by Albanians in Kosovo and then Kosovo refuses to offer hospitalization to them. All these are reported to the UN (UNHCR reports). In 1999 the West had its interests in the dissolution of Yugoslavia, so they used media propaganda to trash Serbia. Now that Alboland applied for candidacy in the EU, westerns trash Albanians using REAL facts, because they don't want Albanian immigrants moving to their counties once Albania (if ever) joins the EU. I'll send you some links to see what Europe believes about them (Britain, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Czech Republic etc said in June 2014 that they are against Albania's candidacy unless the crime rate in Albania gets REALLY low). And by the way, given the UN reports and the 30 UN members that refuse to recognize KiM, Kosovo cannot become a UN member. Even 1 veto is enough and we are 30. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28541560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuWI7erUb1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiVNQpfsEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ADK92ykCc
Our love and support to the bravest nation in the history of Europe.
The Greek Army is all over Kosovo, it's one of the very few Armies which were asked to cover all areas of Kosovo. In Southern Kosovo Serbs live with them for protection, because NATO asked that. Not us, not Serbia. NATO.
The women who are brought in Greece are brought by NATO. It's not us saying, it's NATO which says what happened to them. And it's all recorded. Many of them got paralyzed. It's all recorded and sent to the UN.
About veto, let me give you a very simple example: If Spain allows KiM to join the UN, the Vasques and the Catalans the next day will have a revolution, will seek to be recognized as independent and if they ask the UN to become UN members, Spain will have the LEGAL OBLIGATION to accept it. So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that.
But let me ask you something, because I'm really curious. If you are so sure that everything will work out well for the Albanians in Kosovo, why are you in a Serbian site? For instance, I am in a Serbian site because in Greece we love Serbs, so we always keep some contact with them. How about you? Are you that worried that you actually visit a Serbian site and try to convince Serbs that you won? If you won, you don't really need to put an effort writing in Serbian sites, do you?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 7 December 2014 15:05)
Aren't we the knowledgeable one.
Don't know where these Serbian's you speak of live but it is not on any base. While I was in Kosovo I visited all the major bases there and I do not remember the Greeks having their own base, and with less than 120 military there now I doubt one exists today. Most of the smaller forces are conscentrated with other militaries.
You are right it only takes one veto to stop UN membership but that is among the UNSC permanent members. Your 30 that refuse are just 30 members and 30 votes against more than 100 yes votes. Greece is powerless in blocking UN membership. Russia is the only real veto Serbia can count on, for now. China has never said anything about vetoing UN membership of Kosovo, although many on here and in Serbia who want to speak for China have claimed it. But it goes against the grain of China, China has rarely used its veto power, it usually will abstain from a vote it does not agree with the chamber if a majority supports something(unless it affects them directly) Russia's stance has more to do with the US than Serbia, so due to the global atmosphere that too could change.
These women you speak of, if they exist, are more likely victims of the huge domestic abuse problem Serbia suffers from. Any attacks on women at the scale you mention would be very highly publicized. I mean an old woman throwing rocks at a bus gets headlines.
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
The only Greek soldiers who returned recently to Greece from Kosovo were 200 Greek men who were in Urosevac.
About the Serbian women in the Greek hospitals, my mother operated several surgeries, so I have a personal idea about how Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija brutalized Serbs. But it's all recorded by the UN anyway. Everybody knows what you did to Serbs. Since you read sites in British as you claim, haven't you read what the European press says about the crimes conducted by Albanians against Serbs? About killing them and selling their organs? About the KLA leaders that the EU wants to try for war crimes? Well on the top of that add the Serbian women who were brought in Greece too, because you are not getting away with it that easy.
It's not just Greece in the veto coalition, do you think it's just us? Let me repeat: If you were so sure and relaxed about the future of Kosovo and Metohija, you wouldn't be here.
Are you American? Really? You mean you are one of those people who are born and raised in USA and can't even find Kosovo and Metohija on the map? Wow, now I'm really impressed..! You Albanians must be really desperate.
Check on youtube the Greeks who demonstrated 3 days ago at 6 pm in front of the American Embassy in Thessaloniki, you will see me there.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right? All Albanians know, so you should too.
By the way, what time is it now in the States? 5 am? 4 am? I guess you suffer from insomnia, poor "American".
Haha, so basically you visit Serbian sites because you know that you can't have an easy ride with Serbia. Thanks for confirming me, though I had no doubt.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 16:36)
I have no idea what this was suppose to mean, maybe having a bit of problem with English are we??? Also I do not visit British sites, I said English sites, there is no British language, by the way I am American(in case you did not know English is the primary language in the US), but would not have a problem being Albanian.
Don't know who these 200 Greeks who returned from Urosevac, but they were not with Kfor as there are only 118 Greeks in the current Kfor as of 2013. Urosevac is in the Camp Bondsteel area of control and its hospital is not staffed with anything other than US doctors, so doubt they sent any Serbian women to Greece, and I KNOW no civilians live on camp Bondsteel.
Since you are up to date on EU articles on Albanians, I am sure that you have read that there is no evidence found to support the organ harvesting rumors.
Veto coalition? It does not matter how many countries you have in your "coalition" as long as there is no such thing as veto in the UNGA. Hope you all have a good meeting as it means nothing. Now if you come up with close to 100 votes then you might have something. But then again since there have been 106 recognitions that only leaves 84 that have not done so officially and only about 30 total that have refused to do so.
Hahaga, if you are American this site is Japanese. Same odds.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 19:24)
More American than you are Greek, I can assure you.
Kind of a coincidence that you show up on B92 the same time as Andreas to show the Greek undying love for Serbs and hatred for Albanians.
Mina,
Before 2006 what you say was true, I had no idea where Kosovo was until someone told me it was in the former Yugoslavia. Then I spent the next three years there. I left with the takeover of EULEX.
But you know it does not matter what my ethnic origin is (which is good as most Americans do not really know their ancestry nor really care) I was there the day Kosovo declared independence and fully support it.
Then obviously you didn't really search. In any case, you don't have to believe or understand what I'm talking about. Serbs know what I'm talking about.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
You are really becoming a hoot you know it, Look at the time stamps on the posts, mine was posted at 01:21 Serbian time which is 7:21 pm Eastern time zone, yours was posted at 10:47 which in Eastern time zone(by the way US has 4 time zones) it would be 4:47 in the morning. It is now 6:34 in the morning here, a normal time to get up and drink coffee before heading off to work.
But time zones or postings matter not, nor whether I am American or Albanian or what you think I am, nor whether you are really Greek or Serbian. None of that changes the fact that what you posted originally and since then are nothing more than fabrications that do not even possess an ounce of credibility.
Now if you want to continue to exchange comments on the time of day or my national affiliation, or my sleep habits, or even what I had for breakfast today, it is ok as it will not make what you say more accurate. Those who choose to believe it will and the people who really know anything about Kosovo will not.
During the conflict and right after there may have been some people sent to Greece due to injuries from ethnic tensions, I can't say. But for the last 10 years the chances are slim to zero. And NATO has never asked for anyone to live on the Kfor military bases "for their protection"
Now maybe you want to discuss what color shirt I am going to wear today? My guess yours is white and the sleeves tie together in the back.
It has always been different. If you were so interested in understanding why, you would simply open a history book.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 14 December 2014 17:58)
I did and found no difference. Russians and Ukrainians were as brothers as Greeks and Serbs until a year ago.
To Truth Hurts! You conveniently omitted the following statement:
"Prosecutor Williamson explained that there was not enough evidence for any organ-trafficking indictments yet, but prosecutions could not be ruled out in the future." However, the statement: "Nothing can be ruled out in the future." can apply to just about anything. Therefore, it is meaningless!
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 8 December 2014 12:24)
You are way too easy. Greece has NO base their military serve on one or more of the established military bases. They have less than 120 soldiers they live on the bases and NO civilians live on any of the bases (for protection) This was NOT asked by NATO of the Greeks.
Again if there were any Serb women brutalized in Kosovo by Albanians, it would be extremely well publicized, and Serbs would not go to an Albanian hospital in Kosovo much less be refused treatment, they would go to the Serbian facilities and to Belgrade.
You Say
"So it's not about having the power to veto, it's about protecting your own country. And we will veto, have no doubt about that."
Curious as to how you can veto if you have no power to veto. Greece can vote no and it is 1 vote among the 190 countries. There is no VETO in the UNGA, only in the UNSC and the US, Russia, France, China, and UK possess that power only always have since the beginning of the UN and not likely to change.
As far as me reading a Serbian site, first what does it matter to you? Second I read several English version sites in the Balkans to keep up with what is going on. I like B92 as it seems to have a lot of posters who pose as those who know a lot but it very transparent they know very little.
Greece does have veto power over membership in the EU but not really in a position to exercise it at the present!
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it.
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47
News travels slow in Greece, doesn't it? As the rest of the world knew of this condition at least 4 years now. Hopefully, you react a little quicker in emergencies.
Greeks found out about the EU's blackmail towards Serbia, the "either EU OR Kosovo" condition. It's all over our news n Greece and our FB accounts have posts about it. So don't be surprised if you see Greeks writing in Serbian blogs these days. You do know about the Greek-Serbian brotherhood, right?
(Christina_Thessaloniki, 9 December 2014 10:47)
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