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Monday, 17.11.2014.

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Croatian fans chant fascist slogans in Italy

Supporters of Croatia's national football team on Sunday caused incidents during a UEFA qualifier played against Italy in Milan, that ended in a 1-1 draw.

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Peggy

pre 9 godina

What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.
(Bam Bam, 19 November 2014 13:40)
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Wrong. It's because all Communists execute their opponents.

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@Ari Gold

I'm yet to hear as to why the YU you loved so much convicted and executed what Beograd seen as a WAR CRIMINAL. Forget about what the U.S & France thought of Draza. What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation.
(Ari Gold, 18 November 2014 11:21)

My apologies, Charles De Gaulle led the French resistance, not the liberation. France couldn't liberate itself and the UK was just lucky to have a body of water separate itself from the spread of Germany.

Bob

pre 9 godina

"'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.
(Ari Gold, 17 November 2014 23:28)"

And fascism rears its ugly head to make enlightening and well-balanced comments...

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !
(Bam Bam, 18 November 2014 00:34)

Most people who lie about General Draza say that he switched allegiances towards Nazi Germany in the end of the war, not the beginning. Even the most anti-Serbian propagandists acknowledge that Draza's Chetniks was the legacy of the old Kingdom of Yugoslavia army which fought Germany in WWI and lost 26% of its population trying to liberate Croatia and Bosnia.

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation. So forgive me if I take their word on it over a neo-nazi Ustasha with too much time on his hands rotting his life away trying to troll Serbs because that's all that consumes him is his hatred for Serbia. Kind of insecure about your own roots, wouldn't you say?

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

4. Hard objects and fireworks were thrown on Albanian players well before the drone started flying. The few Albanian journalists who had dared to go to Belgrade also reported that they were pelted with hard objects throughout the first half.
5. Ivan Bogdanovic, the Serb hooligan who led the 2010 Italy match riot, was seen invading the pitch. He served jail time in Serbia after the Italy incident, in which he burned an Albanian flag. That game had to be abandoned as well. Yesterday he led a group of masked supporters into the pitch before being kicked out by police.
6. More than half of Albania’s national team has roots in Kosovo, which split from Serbia in the late 90s in a violent conflict in which about 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed or went missing and more than 800,000 were displaced. In addition, more than 2,000 ethnic Serbs were also killed or went missing in the war, which ended through a NATO intervention 15 years go. The alliance’s flag was also burned in Belgrade last night. (Albania has been a NATO member since 2009. Serbia is officially EU-minded, but also Russia-friendly.)
7. Despite the harsh political atmosphere in the stadium, the Albanian national team went to play football, and it managed to overcome a shaky first few minutes, moving to gain the upper hand in the field when the interruption happened.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

Much of the international media coverage of the violence in the Partizan Belgrade stadium has focused on the stunt of a drone flying an Albanian banner, the ensuing brawl and pitch invasion by angry Serb fans. There were additional elements to the violence that are either not being reported by international media or being under-reported. Here are some of them:
1. Albanian fans were not allowed to attend the match. Serb authorities said they would arrest anyone who showed any symbol of the visiting team in the stadium — restrictions that are almost unheard of in international football. A few Albanian supporters were able to get in, but the crowd was more than 99 percent Serb.
2. The Serb crowd chanted, “Ubij, Ubij Siptar” – “Kill, Kill the Albanians,” throughout the 40 minutes the game was played. They used the Milosevic-era derogatory term for Albanian, which is akin to the n-word in North America.
3. The stadium was filled with Serb nationalistic political banners, like “Kosovo is Serbia” and other slogans relating to Bosnia and Croatia. The Serb fans loudly booed the Albanian national anthem.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

@the Same Old Crap
serbs were chanting "kill Albanians" during the whole game even before the flag was flown in the stadium. the players were attacked with rocks and bricks before the game started. the next day criminal serbs went on a rampage and burned the businesses of innocent Albanians living in serbia ... and you are trying to blame Albanians for something?

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@ Daniel..You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 22:06)

'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Oh my gosh I love Croats.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 21:20)
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Too bad they don't even like you.

Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)
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You do know that you can't expect simpletons to know even recent history let alone ancient history?
They only know what their grandpa still dressed in his Nazi uniform is telling them.

Bob

pre 9 godina

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.
(the Same Old Crap, 17 November 2014 18:14)

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.

Dum Dum

pre 9 godina

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)

Bam Bam's no Croat. He only wishes his grandfathers are buried in a mass grave in Bleiburg.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation [link] of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore.
(Lenard, 17 November 2014 19:52)

Now you're not so aggressively anti-Serbian with your comment, trying to explain the very damaging behavior of your fans. Problem is, they were also openly chanting neo-Nazi slogans and throwing up the nazi salute all the while they threw flares are players, damaged seats, fought Italian fans and security etc. In many cases, this has the characteristics of a terrorist attempt.

Serbian fans angrily reacted to a direct Albanian provocation in their own stadium but did not get violent. One fan out of 30, 000 ran onto the field and he was quickly taken off.

Only difference is, the Italian players were brave enough to finish the game whereas the Albanian players after provoking a fight with the Serbian player for daring to take down your stupid fantasies, hid in their locker room before they were thrown a parade in Albania as if they won the World Cup. Yes, upsetting Serbs is equal to Albanians as winning the World Cup. And you say they don't love us?!

Croatian fans are fools though. I happened to be watching the game and Croatia had the momentum, probably would have scored and won in Italy had the Ustashe not interrupted the game. Morons.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The only Nazis are the Serb scum that carry banners glorifying fascist radical Seselj.
(Bam Bam, 17 November 2014 13:42)
# Comment link

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb. Jasenovac is another example of that YOU are the only nazi bastards in the balcans. Calling Seselj a nazi is just proof of that you dont have any clue of who he is, you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/17/croatia-fans-terrorism-italy-planned-cry-attention of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore. Same thing happens in Serbia soccer clubs in a lot of other places also. It seems to draw in unsavory criminals taking the helm of clubs that politicans use to their own evil ends.

the Same Old Crap

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 17:13)

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.

Pebbles

pre 9 godina

Even my rockhead pals know that the red-white checkboard of the ustase is a veil symbol of ethnic violence and cleansing, and genocide, one directly associated to real ww2 nazi. this symbol has since the 90s been revived and reinvigorated.

Bob

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.

CIVILIZED EUROPE

pre 9 godina

Good job Croatia. Greetings from Albania.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 17:17)

Albanians are the only people that supports Croatian fascism simply because it targets Serbs. Enemy of my enemy is my friend eh? Good luck getting into the EU with that primitive attitude.

"Ethnic Albania" another farce confronting humanity right up there with Greater Croatia.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

Who really pays attention to croats. They have always been the slaves and servants of others. These idiots are proud to be croats because...?

No one cares about croats, no one pays attention to a country with zero history and zero credibility.

Elton Meta

pre 9 godina

This game it reminds me Italy vs Serbia four years ago when Ivan Bogdanov was burning Albanian flag. Serbs are the real animals. I support Croats.

Sieg Fail

pre 9 godina

Bam Bam, you're not even trying anymore. Once you actually were able to insult. Now it's just lame and pathetic comments like this that makes no sense. You sure you're really a big bad Croatian patriot living in the US, or are you running out of ideas? Ustashe are dumb as a rule and there's a certain level of stupidity to have for even tying yourself to them but you need to try harder to make people believe you're one. Let alone make people think you're even remotely Croatian.

Luigi

pre 9 godina

I watch the entire game yesterday and as an italian supporter i thanked a lot these stupid Croatians because they were able to suspend twice the game while their team was outplaying our poor side.. without their help we could have lost by 2-3 goals.. so i hope for another help next time in Zagreb please UEFA take note...

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Bob

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.

CIVILIZED EUROPE

pre 9 godina

Good job Croatia. Greetings from Albania.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 17:17)

Albanians are the only people that supports Croatian fascism simply because it targets Serbs. Enemy of my enemy is my friend eh? Good luck getting into the EU with that primitive attitude.

"Ethnic Albania" another farce confronting humanity right up there with Greater Croatia.

Elton Meta

pre 9 godina

This game it reminds me Italy vs Serbia four years ago when Ivan Bogdanov was burning Albanian flag. Serbs are the real animals. I support Croats.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The only Nazis are the Serb scum that carry banners glorifying fascist radical Seselj.
(Bam Bam, 17 November 2014 13:42)
# Comment link

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb. Jasenovac is another example of that YOU are the only nazi bastards in the balcans. Calling Seselj a nazi is just proof of that you dont have any clue of who he is, you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

Sieg Fail

pre 9 godina

Bam Bam, you're not even trying anymore. Once you actually were able to insult. Now it's just lame and pathetic comments like this that makes no sense. You sure you're really a big bad Croatian patriot living in the US, or are you running out of ideas? Ustashe are dumb as a rule and there's a certain level of stupidity to have for even tying yourself to them but you need to try harder to make people believe you're one. Let alone make people think you're even remotely Croatian.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

Who really pays attention to croats. They have always been the slaves and servants of others. These idiots are proud to be croats because...?

No one cares about croats, no one pays attention to a country with zero history and zero credibility.

the Same Old Crap

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 17:13)

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

@the Same Old Crap
serbs were chanting "kill Albanians" during the whole game even before the flag was flown in the stadium. the players were attacked with rocks and bricks before the game started. the next day criminal serbs went on a rampage and burned the businesses of innocent Albanians living in serbia ... and you are trying to blame Albanians for something?

Luigi

pre 9 godina

I watch the entire game yesterday and as an italian supporter i thanked a lot these stupid Croatians because they were able to suspend twice the game while their team was outplaying our poor side.. without their help we could have lost by 2-3 goals.. so i hope for another help next time in Zagreb please UEFA take note...

Pebbles

pre 9 godina

Even my rockhead pals know that the red-white checkboard of the ustase is a veil symbol of ethnic violence and cleansing, and genocide, one directly associated to real ww2 nazi. this symbol has since the 90s been revived and reinvigorated.

Bob

pre 9 godina

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.
(the Same Old Crap, 17 November 2014 18:14)

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation [link] of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore.
(Lenard, 17 November 2014 19:52)

Now you're not so aggressively anti-Serbian with your comment, trying to explain the very damaging behavior of your fans. Problem is, they were also openly chanting neo-Nazi slogans and throwing up the nazi salute all the while they threw flares are players, damaged seats, fought Italian fans and security etc. In many cases, this has the characteristics of a terrorist attempt.

Serbian fans angrily reacted to a direct Albanian provocation in their own stadium but did not get violent. One fan out of 30, 000 ran onto the field and he was quickly taken off.

Only difference is, the Italian players were brave enough to finish the game whereas the Albanian players after provoking a fight with the Serbian player for daring to take down your stupid fantasies, hid in their locker room before they were thrown a parade in Albania as if they won the World Cup. Yes, upsetting Serbs is equal to Albanians as winning the World Cup. And you say they don't love us?!

Croatian fans are fools though. I happened to be watching the game and Croatia had the momentum, probably would have scored and won in Italy had the Ustashe not interrupted the game. Morons.

Bob

pre 9 godina

"'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.
(Ari Gold, 17 November 2014 23:28)"

And fascism rears its ugly head to make enlightening and well-balanced comments...

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@Ari Gold

I'm yet to hear as to why the YU you loved so much convicted and executed what Beograd seen as a WAR CRIMINAL. Forget about what the U.S & France thought of Draza. What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

Much of the international media coverage of the violence in the Partizan Belgrade stadium has focused on the stunt of a drone flying an Albanian banner, the ensuing brawl and pitch invasion by angry Serb fans. There were additional elements to the violence that are either not being reported by international media or being under-reported. Here are some of them:
1. Albanian fans were not allowed to attend the match. Serb authorities said they would arrest anyone who showed any symbol of the visiting team in the stadium — restrictions that are almost unheard of in international football. A few Albanian supporters were able to get in, but the crowd was more than 99 percent Serb.
2. The Serb crowd chanted, “Ubij, Ubij Siptar” – “Kill, Kill the Albanians,” throughout the 40 minutes the game was played. They used the Milosevic-era derogatory term for Albanian, which is akin to the n-word in North America.
3. The stadium was filled with Serb nationalistic political banners, like “Kosovo is Serbia” and other slogans relating to Bosnia and Croatia. The Serb fans loudly booed the Albanian national anthem.

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/17/croatia-fans-terrorism-italy-planned-cry-attention of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore. Same thing happens in Serbia soccer clubs in a lot of other places also. It seems to draw in unsavory criminals taking the helm of clubs that politicans use to their own evil ends.

Dum Dum

pre 9 godina

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)

Bam Bam's no Croat. He only wishes his grandfathers are buried in a mass grave in Bleiburg.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !
(Bam Bam, 18 November 2014 00:34)

Most people who lie about General Draza say that he switched allegiances towards Nazi Germany in the end of the war, not the beginning. Even the most anti-Serbian propagandists acknowledge that Draza's Chetniks was the legacy of the old Kingdom of Yugoslavia army which fought Germany in WWI and lost 26% of its population trying to liberate Croatia and Bosnia.

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation. So forgive me if I take their word on it over a neo-nazi Ustasha with too much time on his hands rotting his life away trying to troll Serbs because that's all that consumes him is his hatred for Serbia. Kind of insecure about your own roots, wouldn't you say?

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@ Daniel..You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

4. Hard objects and fireworks were thrown on Albanian players well before the drone started flying. The few Albanian journalists who had dared to go to Belgrade also reported that they were pelted with hard objects throughout the first half.
5. Ivan Bogdanovic, the Serb hooligan who led the 2010 Italy match riot, was seen invading the pitch. He served jail time in Serbia after the Italy incident, in which he burned an Albanian flag. That game had to be abandoned as well. Yesterday he led a group of masked supporters into the pitch before being kicked out by police.
6. More than half of Albania’s national team has roots in Kosovo, which split from Serbia in the late 90s in a violent conflict in which about 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed or went missing and more than 800,000 were displaced. In addition, more than 2,000 ethnic Serbs were also killed or went missing in the war, which ended through a NATO intervention 15 years go. The alliance’s flag was also burned in Belgrade last night. (Albania has been a NATO member since 2009. Serbia is officially EU-minded, but also Russia-friendly.)
7. Despite the harsh political atmosphere in the stadium, the Albanian national team went to play football, and it managed to overcome a shaky first few minutes, moving to gain the upper hand in the field when the interruption happened.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 22:06)

'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Oh my gosh I love Croats.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 21:20)
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Too bad they don't even like you.

Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)
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You do know that you can't expect simpletons to know even recent history let alone ancient history?
They only know what their grandpa still dressed in his Nazi uniform is telling them.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation.
(Ari Gold, 18 November 2014 11:21)

My apologies, Charles De Gaulle led the French resistance, not the liberation. France couldn't liberate itself and the UK was just lucky to have a body of water separate itself from the spread of Germany.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.
(Bam Bam, 19 November 2014 13:40)
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Wrong. It's because all Communists execute their opponents.

Bob

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.

Elton Meta

pre 9 godina

This game it reminds me Italy vs Serbia four years ago when Ivan Bogdanov was burning Albanian flag. Serbs are the real animals. I support Croats.

Pebbles

pre 9 godina

Even my rockhead pals know that the red-white checkboard of the ustase is a veil symbol of ethnic violence and cleansing, and genocide, one directly associated to real ww2 nazi. this symbol has since the 90s been revived and reinvigorated.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

The only Nazis are the Serb scum that carry banners glorifying fascist radical Seselj.
(Bam Bam, 17 November 2014 13:42)
# Comment link

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb. Jasenovac is another example of that YOU are the only nazi bastards in the balcans. Calling Seselj a nazi is just proof of that you dont have any clue of who he is, you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

CIVILIZED EUROPE

pre 9 godina

Good job Croatia. Greetings from Albania.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 17:17)

Albanians are the only people that supports Croatian fascism simply because it targets Serbs. Enemy of my enemy is my friend eh? Good luck getting into the EU with that primitive attitude.

"Ethnic Albania" another farce confronting humanity right up there with Greater Croatia.

the Same Old Crap

pre 9 godina

How quickly Serbs forget the fascist behaviour they showed the world at the Albania-Serbia match a few days ago. Croats shouldn't mimic such behaviour from Balkan bullies.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 17:13)

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

Who really pays attention to croats. They have always been the slaves and servants of others. These idiots are proud to be croats because...?

No one cares about croats, no one pays attention to a country with zero history and zero credibility.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation [link] of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore.
(Lenard, 17 November 2014 19:52)

Now you're not so aggressively anti-Serbian with your comment, trying to explain the very damaging behavior of your fans. Problem is, they were also openly chanting neo-Nazi slogans and throwing up the nazi salute all the while they threw flares are players, damaged seats, fought Italian fans and security etc. In many cases, this has the characteristics of a terrorist attempt.

Serbian fans angrily reacted to a direct Albanian provocation in their own stadium but did not get violent. One fan out of 30, 000 ran onto the field and he was quickly taken off.

Only difference is, the Italian players were brave enough to finish the game whereas the Albanian players after provoking a fight with the Serbian player for daring to take down your stupid fantasies, hid in their locker room before they were thrown a parade in Albania as if they won the World Cup. Yes, upsetting Serbs is equal to Albanians as winning the World Cup. And you say they don't love us?!

Croatian fans are fools though. I happened to be watching the game and Croatia had the momentum, probably would have scored and won in Italy had the Ustashe not interrupted the game. Morons.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Oh my gosh I love Croats.
(ETHNIC ALBANIA, 17 November 2014 21:20)
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Too bad they don't even like you.

Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.

Sieg Fail

pre 9 godina

Bam Bam, you're not even trying anymore. Once you actually were able to insult. Now it's just lame and pathetic comments like this that makes no sense. You sure you're really a big bad Croatian patriot living in the US, or are you running out of ideas? Ustashe are dumb as a rule and there's a certain level of stupidity to have for even tying yourself to them but you need to try harder to make people believe you're one. Let alone make people think you're even remotely Croatian.

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !
(Bam Bam, 18 November 2014 00:34)

Most people who lie about General Draza say that he switched allegiances towards Nazi Germany in the end of the war, not the beginning. Even the most anti-Serbian propagandists acknowledge that Draza's Chetniks was the legacy of the old Kingdom of Yugoslavia army which fought Germany in WWI and lost 26% of its population trying to liberate Croatia and Bosnia.

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation. So forgive me if I take their word on it over a neo-nazi Ustasha with too much time on his hands rotting his life away trying to troll Serbs because that's all that consumes him is his hatred for Serbia. Kind of insecure about your own roots, wouldn't you say?

Bob

pre 9 godina

The only fascist behavior there was the provocative display of a Greater Albania flag, which was offensive to all its neighbors. That was fascist. Serbs just chanted racist slogans. Croats chanted fascist slogans too, and if there's anyone mimicking someone else, Croats have a long tradition of fascism and neo-Nazism for others to learn from. Make sure you know the difference next time you try to make a point that can be easily discredited.
(the Same Old Crap, 17 November 2014 18:14)

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

Here is a good explanation http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/17/croatia-fans-terrorism-italy-planned-cry-attention of what is going on in Croatian soccer. As mafiosa take over a club as their little fiefdom. The fans get pissed off in Croatia we are taking down people like that. Be they top politicans ,generals etc no one takes their criminal bullshit anymore. Same thing happens in Serbia soccer clubs in a lot of other places also. It seems to draw in unsavory criminals taking the helm of clubs that politicans use to their own evil ends.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you do know that the cetniks fought the nazis right? You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)
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You do know that you can't expect simpletons to know even recent history let alone ancient history?
They only know what their grandpa still dressed in his Nazi uniform is telling them.

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@ Daniel..You do know that Draza was awarded several medals by the US right?

Is this the same Draza that was found guilty of war crimes and executed by the same Yugoslavia that you so badly wanted to exist. Draza only recieved the medal because he was aware that his facsist ideology was crumbling so why not prentend to be a good guy at the end of war and hope to recieve a pardon. Such filth !

Mark

pre 9 godina

Nothing new about this, once nazis, always nazis.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 12:41)

Yep. You descendants of Djurisic are right. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pavle_Đurišić_Iron_Cross.jpg

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Yes yes Serbs (and their Russian brethren) should try looking in the mirror for a change when talking about racism, fascism, homophobia, radicalism, nationalism, genocide, war crimes, neo-Nazism (look at Serbia's role in WW@) itd.
(Bob, 17 November 2014 22:06)

'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

4. Hard objects and fireworks were thrown on Albanian players well before the drone started flying. The few Albanian journalists who had dared to go to Belgrade also reported that they were pelted with hard objects throughout the first half.
5. Ivan Bogdanovic, the Serb hooligan who led the 2010 Italy match riot, was seen invading the pitch. He served jail time in Serbia after the Italy incident, in which he burned an Albanian flag. That game had to be abandoned as well. Yesterday he led a group of masked supporters into the pitch before being kicked out by police.
6. More than half of Albania’s national team has roots in Kosovo, which split from Serbia in the late 90s in a violent conflict in which about 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed or went missing and more than 800,000 were displaced. In addition, more than 2,000 ethnic Serbs were also killed or went missing in the war, which ended through a NATO intervention 15 years go. The alliance’s flag was also burned in Belgrade last night. (Albania has been a NATO member since 2009. Serbia is officially EU-minded, but also Russia-friendly.)
7. Despite the harsh political atmosphere in the stadium, the Albanian national team went to play football, and it managed to overcome a shaky first few minutes, moving to gain the upper hand in the field when the interruption happened.

Luigi

pre 9 godina

I watch the entire game yesterday and as an italian supporter i thanked a lot these stupid Croatians because they were able to suspend twice the game while their team was outplaying our poor side.. without their help we could have lost by 2-3 goals.. so i hope for another help next time in Zagreb please UEFA take note...

Dum Dum

pre 9 godina

The only nazis are you Ustasa that fought and lost with your brethren the NAZIS, salute hitler and threw flowers at nazi soldiers when they entered zagreb.
(Daniel, 17 November 2014 19:29)

Bam Bam's no Croat. He only wishes his grandfathers are buried in a mass grave in Bleiburg.

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

@the Same Old Crap
serbs were chanting "kill Albanians" during the whole game even before the flag was flown in the stadium. the players were attacked with rocks and bricks before the game started. the next day criminal serbs went on a rampage and burned the businesses of innocent Albanians living in serbia ... and you are trying to blame Albanians for something?

ETHNIC ALBANIA

pre 9 godina

Much of the international media coverage of the violence in the Partizan Belgrade stadium has focused on the stunt of a drone flying an Albanian banner, the ensuing brawl and pitch invasion by angry Serb fans. There were additional elements to the violence that are either not being reported by international media or being under-reported. Here are some of them:
1. Albanian fans were not allowed to attend the match. Serb authorities said they would arrest anyone who showed any symbol of the visiting team in the stadium — restrictions that are almost unheard of in international football. A few Albanian supporters were able to get in, but the crowd was more than 99 percent Serb.
2. The Serb crowd chanted, “Ubij, Ubij Siptar” – “Kill, Kill the Albanians,” throughout the 40 minutes the game was played. They used the Milosevic-era derogatory term for Albanian, which is akin to the n-word in North America.
3. The stadium was filled with Serb nationalistic political banners, like “Kosovo is Serbia” and other slogans relating to Bosnia and Croatia. The Serb fans loudly booed the Albanian national anthem.

Bob

pre 9 godina

"'ITD' stands for i tako dalje which means "and so on". This means you are most certainly from the Balkans, your name is not Bob and you are likely either a Croatian neo-Nazi or a Bosnian Islamist.
(Ari Gold, 17 November 2014 23:28)"

And fascism rears its ugly head to make enlightening and well-balanced comments...

Peggy

pre 9 godina

What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.
(Bam Bam, 19 November 2014 13:40)
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Wrong. It's because all Communists execute their opponents.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

But of course Draza was never a collaborator. Not then, not towards the end. Draza was awarded medals not only by multiple U.S. Presidents, but also by Charles De Gaulle who led France's liberation.
(Ari Gold, 18 November 2014 11:21)

My apologies, Charles De Gaulle led the French resistance, not the liberation. France couldn't liberate itself and the UK was just lucky to have a body of water separate itself from the spread of Germany.

Bam Bam

pre 9 godina

@Ari Gold

I'm yet to hear as to why the YU you loved so much convicted and executed what Beograd seen as a WAR CRIMINAL. Forget about what the U.S & France thought of Draza. What's important is that the country where he was born....seen him as nothing more than a cancerous rat committing crimes against the civilian population. That's why to this day he's body has never been found because who in their right mind wants to remember a tyrant.