"U.S. using Šešelj against government" - minister

Is there a competition to see who can come up with the most bizarre conspiracy theory in Belgrade this month?

In other words, Serbia won't forgive the US, Edi Rama or the West for showing the true face of Serbia and its people who elected this 'fake eurofile' fascists and communists. Serbia does not have the economy nor the demographics to do what it really wants in its troubled heart. A paper eaglet phantom trying to ride the Yugoslavia wave even after having crashed on the coast of geopolitical reality.
Get your act together and be truthful to your western partners and to Russia. Tito's Yugoslavia was a cushion between the two, but present day Serbia will be squashed if it stays too long in the middle.

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but because he successfully defended himself in a highly anti-Serbian kangaroo court for more than a decade. He was very insulting to the quasi prosecution, I'd call them persecutors and he dared them to convict him of any crime which they couldn't.

Now he's home, and the 2 guys who used to fetch him his newspaper who betrayed him while in prison are running the country. Just days after the Shqiptar Arnaut leaves Serbia, Seselj comes home. Governing politicians are crying conspiracy theory... it's never boring in the Balkans.

Here we go. Another provocation.First the Albanians and now the Americans.Poor serbs can't catch a break. The whole world is out to humiliate these innocent creatures.

I wonder who is more ill and needs some medical treatment: Seselj or Vulin (or course different kind of illness and treatment)

If you have a closer look at serb political leadership, you'll find out that these people (Šešelj, Vučić, Vulin...) are rather losers. For these people to be sucsessful in politics, loud radical Nationalism is the only option. Then they move bit by bit to real politics. Moderate positions have no chance to win elections in Serbia as you can see.
For Vučić, Vulin et al. the release of Šešelj is indeed very unpleasant. They are doing "their best" by crude insults towards Albanians, but that is very common in Serbia, it doesn't bring you extra popularity. Šešelj is much better in doing this. Furthermore he is not perceived to be a whiner.
Šešeljs release could indeed destabilize the current government.

Oh how much I love this!, how can't you? These people are making a complete looney tune theme of their state and themselves! And they now blame the US
Again for their own deplorable behaviors! Today's Serbia's government is probably the one with the weakest spine in a century, maybe more? They have signed and put there signature on almost every agreement the EU's Ashton has put in front if them, yet they think that the types of S. Millosevich V. Seslii V. Kostunica would not deplore the actions of Serbia's government that is in power at the time? Naive of some Serb politicians thinking in this matte, for the past 3 years every radical commentator on every Serbian news site has been calling their current government officials traitors.

I'm not sure how you can say he successfully defended himself. He certainly strung it out by playing games and then being ill, but he's still on trial waiting for a verdict.

Per Vulin, the US is the all powerful controller of the world, maybe he needs to talk with sj, who thinks the power of the US is gone.
Or is this one of those flip cards that Serbs use, you know like Serbia is the victim on one side and the victor on the other so they can flip it whichever speech they are giving. Sometimes they will use both sides in the same speech.
I see the Hague is no longer a NATO court it is a US court.
Apparently Vulin has great fears of the return of Seselj.

This is really turning into a battle of the crazies. The ultra right nationalist guy vs the leftist everything is a conspiracy guy. This could make for a great comedy show like The Odd Couple.

Vulin apparently suffered from a severe brain fart. Either that or B92 is now competing with Njuz.net

So the Leftist has become Shaken ?.

Is this their Beginning for a Excuse to make a Coupe ?.

Surely the Only Force in Serbia which can shake the Leftist,
is the Serbian Nationalists.

Long Live the Serbian Nationalists !

CCCC !.

Arn.Sweden.

"I'm not sure how you can say he successfully defended himself. He certainly strung it out by playing games and then being ill, but he's still on trial waiting for a verdict."
(Andy UK, 13 November 2014 12:02)

It's normal if you know that the Serbian interpretation on what makes you a 'winner' is a bit bizarre. Some Serbs even believe that they 'won' the ex-Yu wars because NATO stopped bombing after some dozen of days. Absurd, isn't it?

Is he saying Serbia should become more loyal to the US so that the US doesn't bring it down or is he saying it should distant itself from the US because the US is plotting against it (US will be more willing to bring it down in that case!) ???

Ari says:
"Had he not went there and successfully defended himself, he would not be nearly as popular as he is today (however much that is)."
I have never understood how his diehard fanatics think he successfully defended himself. Was he acquitted and the world did not know? He did I have to admit, use the court against itself. He manipulated the court and successfully strung his trial out 10 times longer than it should have taken. Through multiple, multiple illnesses, depression, hunger strikes, an enormous magnitude of filings and charges that had to be answered before his trial could continue.
But those were theatrics not defense. He knew he could never establish his innocence so instead he delayed the process so that he would probably die before being convicted.

With the announcement that Serbia now has over 100 parties, it shows there is great disillusionment with the controlling parties in Serbia. I would say that while Seselj is not really going to be a huge magnet for people in a country that is tired of the nationalistic rhetoric, but he could pose significant problems to the powerbase of the SNS.

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but ...
-------------

In what universe is Seselj popular?

He has a vocal following, for sure. I guess he's popular among segments of the diaspora, but it would be a stretch to say that he's popular in Serbia, especially considering his party got, what, 2% of the vote?

Here we go. Another provocation.First the Albanians and now the Americans.Poor serbs can't catch a break. The whole world is out to humiliate these innocent creatures.
(Mark, 13 November 2014 16:17)


Remind me what albos do to Serbs in their southern province of Kosovo on Vidovdan? Remind me what happens when Serbian politians come visit Serbias southern province of Kosovo You albos either make them give up their flags and tshirts or turn them back because they are provoking albos. So do you really think its wise for u goofy albo internet trolls to make jokes when Serbs say albos are provoking them when you losers cry about the same things?

What is Vulin campaigning and making speeches for, doesn't he have a job to do? These are bizarre accusations. Now Seselj is an Agent of Obama? what is he talking about

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but ...
---…--

In what universe is Seselj popular?

He has a vocal following, for sure. I guess he's popular among segments of the diaspora, but it would be a stretch to say that he's popular in Serbia, especially considering his party got, what, 2% of the vote?
(Danilo, 13 November 2014 19:44)

You have mistakenly comprehended what I've said. My statement was to explain why he is popular among the people that do support him. His popularity only went up based on his performance in the Hague. Had he not went there and successfully defended himself, he would not be nearly as popular as he is today (however much that is).

Seselj himself is more popular than his party and him not being around to lead it has hurt them. He probably has enough support to get back into parliament if elections were called today. I wouldn't ever vote for his party, but I respect him and admire his performance in a highly anti-Serbian kangaroo court. I would have been there to great him had I been there for the respect I have for his successful defence in the Hague.

Line me up with everybody who is confused about this.

Why is this guy so unconcerned about whether Seselj is guilty of anything or not? He sounds like the entire criminal case against Seselj was nothing more than a way to keep him out of politics. Maybe he knows something we don't

very very sad days for serbia on the upcoming years... i believe your guys are really lost,to much anger and pride ..goodluck..

(Wrongo bucko, 16 November 2014 15:05)

Thing is, the Hague is not an impartial court of law. It is a political court, meant to demonize Serbia and present a false narrative of how the Yugoslav civil wars actually went down. So whether he was "convicted" or "acquitted" is irrelevant. The reality is even this highly Serbophobic court could not convict him even by their overt double standards, and he was there for over a decade!

His major grievance wasn't no depression, it was the right to defend HIMSELF instead of being defended by a lawyer. They granted him that, and he tore them apart, legally. The only thing he is guilty of is being a Serbian nationalist even though nationalism is rampant in the Balkans even today, least in Serbia.

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but because he successfully defended himself in a highly anti-Serbian kangaroo court for more than a decade. He was very insulting to the quasi prosecution, I'd call them persecutors and he dared them to convict him of any crime which they couldn't.

Now he's home, and the 2 guys who used to fetch him his newspaper who betrayed him while in prison are running the country. Just days after the Shqiptar Arnaut leaves Serbia, Seselj comes home. Governing politicians are crying conspiracy theory... it's never boring in the Balkans.

Oh how much I love this!, how can't you? These people are making a complete looney tune theme of their state and themselves! And they now blame the US
Again for their own deplorable behaviors! Today's Serbia's government is probably the one with the weakest spine in a century, maybe more? They have signed and put there signature on almost every agreement the EU's Ashton has put in front if them, yet they think that the types of S. Millosevich V. Seslii V. Kostunica would not deplore the actions of Serbia's government that is in power at the time? Naive of some Serb politicians thinking in this matte, for the past 3 years every radical commentator on every Serbian news site has been calling their current government officials traitors.

I'm not sure how you can say he successfully defended himself. He certainly strung it out by playing games and then being ill, but he's still on trial waiting for a verdict.

So the Leftist has become Shaken ?.

Is this their Beginning for a Excuse to make a Coupe ?.

Surely the Only Force in Serbia which can shake the Leftist,
is the Serbian Nationalists.

Long Live the Serbian Nationalists !

CCCC !.

Arn.Sweden.

Per Vulin, the US is the all powerful controller of the world, maybe he needs to talk with sj, who thinks the power of the US is gone.
Or is this one of those flip cards that Serbs use, you know like Serbia is the victim on one side and the victor on the other so they can flip it whichever speech they are giving. Sometimes they will use both sides in the same speech.
I see the Hague is no longer a NATO court it is a US court.
Apparently Vulin has great fears of the return of Seselj.

Here we go. Another provocation.First the Albanians and now the Americans.Poor serbs can't catch a break. The whole world is out to humiliate these innocent creatures.

Here we go. Another provocation.First the Albanians and now the Americans.Poor serbs can't catch a break. The whole world is out to humiliate these innocent creatures.
(Mark, 13 November 2014 16:17)


Remind me what albos do to Serbs in their southern province of Kosovo on Vidovdan? Remind me what happens when Serbian politians come visit Serbias southern province of Kosovo You albos either make them give up their flags and tshirts or turn them back because they are provoking albos. So do you really think its wise for u goofy albo internet trolls to make jokes when Serbs say albos are provoking them when you losers cry about the same things?

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but ...
-------------

In what universe is Seselj popular?

He has a vocal following, for sure. I guess he's popular among segments of the diaspora, but it would be a stretch to say that he's popular in Serbia, especially considering his party got, what, 2% of the vote?

very very sad days for serbia on the upcoming years... i believe your guys are really lost,to much anger and pride ..goodluck..

Seselj is popular not so much because of his ideas, but ...
---…--

In what universe is Seselj popular?

He has a vocal following, for sure. I guess he's popular among segments of the diaspora, but it would be a stretch to say that he's popular in Serbia, especially considering his party got, what, 2% of the vote?
(Danilo, 13 November 2014 19:44)

You have mistakenly comprehended what I've said. My statement was to explain why he is popular among the people that do support him. His popularity only went up based on his performance in the Hague. Had he not went there and successfully defended himself, he would not be nearly as popular as he is today (however much that is).

Seselj himself is more popular than his party and him not being around to lead it has hurt them. He probably has enough support to get back into parliament if elections were called today. I wouldn't ever vote for his party, but I respect him and admire his performance in a highly anti-Serbian kangaroo court. I would have been there to great him had I been there for the respect I have for his successful defence in the Hague.

In other words, Serbia won't forgive the US, Edi Rama or the West for showing the true face of Serbia and its people who elected this 'fake eurofile' fascists and communists. Serbia does not have the economy nor the demographics to do what it really wants in its troubled heart. A paper eaglet phantom trying to ride the Yugoslavia wave even after having crashed on the coast of geopolitical reality.
Get your act together and be truthful to your western partners and to Russia. Tito's Yugoslavia was a cushion between the two, but present day Serbia will be squashed if it stays too long in the middle.

Vulin apparently suffered from a severe brain fart. Either that or B92 is now competing with Njuz.net

(Wrongo bucko, 16 November 2014 15:05)

Thing is, the Hague is not an impartial court of law. It is a political court, meant to demonize Serbia and present a false narrative of how the Yugoslav civil wars actually went down. So whether he was "convicted" or "acquitted" is irrelevant. The reality is even this highly Serbophobic court could not convict him even by their overt double standards, and he was there for over a decade!

His major grievance wasn't no depression, it was the right to defend HIMSELF instead of being defended by a lawyer. They granted him that, and he tore them apart, legally. The only thing he is guilty of is being a Serbian nationalist even though nationalism is rampant in the Balkans even today, least in Serbia.

I wonder who is more ill and needs some medical treatment: Seselj or Vulin (or course different kind of illness and treatment)

With the announcement that Serbia now has over 100 parties, it shows there is great disillusionment with the controlling parties in Serbia. I would say that while Seselj is not really going to be a huge magnet for people in a country that is tired of the nationalistic rhetoric, but he could pose significant problems to the powerbase of the SNS.

Is there a competition to see who can come up with the most bizarre conspiracy theory in Belgrade this month?

If you have a closer look at serb political leadership, you'll find out that these people (Šešelj, Vučić, Vulin...) are rather losers. For these people to be sucsessful in politics, loud radical Nationalism is the only option. Then they move bit by bit to real politics. Moderate positions have no chance to win elections in Serbia as you can see.
For Vučić, Vulin et al. the release of Šešelj is indeed very unpleasant. They are doing "their best" by crude insults towards Albanians, but that is very common in Serbia, it doesn't bring you extra popularity. Šešelj is much better in doing this. Furthermore he is not perceived to be a whiner.
Šešeljs release could indeed destabilize the current government.

This is really turning into a battle of the crazies. The ultra right nationalist guy vs the leftist everything is a conspiracy guy. This could make for a great comedy show like The Odd Couple.

"I'm not sure how you can say he successfully defended himself. He certainly strung it out by playing games and then being ill, but he's still on trial waiting for a verdict."
(Andy UK, 13 November 2014 12:02)

It's normal if you know that the Serbian interpretation on what makes you a 'winner' is a bit bizarre. Some Serbs even believe that they 'won' the ex-Yu wars because NATO stopped bombing after some dozen of days. Absurd, isn't it?

What is Vulin campaigning and making speeches for, doesn't he have a job to do? These are bizarre accusations. Now Seselj is an Agent of Obama? what is he talking about

Ari says:
"Had he not went there and successfully defended himself, he would not be nearly as popular as he is today (however much that is)."
I have never understood how his diehard fanatics think he successfully defended himself. Was he acquitted and the world did not know? He did I have to admit, use the court against itself. He manipulated the court and successfully strung his trial out 10 times longer than it should have taken. Through multiple, multiple illnesses, depression, hunger strikes, an enormous magnitude of filings and charges that had to be answered before his trial could continue.
But those were theatrics not defense. He knew he could never establish his innocence so instead he delayed the process so that he would probably die before being convicted.

Is he saying Serbia should become more loyal to the US so that the US doesn't bring it down or is he saying it should distant itself from the US because the US is plotting against it (US will be more willing to bring it down in that case!) ???

Line me up with everybody who is confused about this.

Why is this guy so unconcerned about whether Seselj is guilty of anything or not? He sounds like the entire criminal case against Seselj was nothing more than a way to keep him out of politics. Maybe he knows something we don't