Albanian PM's address was "provocation"

It was very regretful that the speech of Prime Minister Rama was not translated from the state television live.
It will be imposible to build bridges between people if one part does not even accept to listen what the other part has to say; whatever the differeces are.

As a Serbian I am, it hurts to say, but we really need to accept Kosovo as independent and move on ! We are neighbours and will always be! Nobody can change that! The time for territories is over. As the albanian PM said, we all have same enemies : poverty, bad economy, etc. Let's stop being foolish, and try to become europeans ! Sometimes it feels like we balkan people are the cancer of Europe! We still have such problems even in the 21st century! MOVE ON PEOPLE!

I feel sorry to see the poor reaction of Mr.Vucic toward another prime-minister. Remove of earpiece when Mr. Rama was speaking?! No Albanian Flag at the aeroport? This is your hospitality Mr. Vucic? This is lack of respect, deliberately? It is not ethical. It is not correct. It is not diplomacy. Shame on you.

Serbia's History of Tolerance

Serbia attacked Slovenia.
Serbia attacked Croatia.
Serbia attacked Bosnia.
Serbia attacked Kosova.

Serbia is definitely NOT a source of stability and at peace with her neighbors.

Serbs can not use the Muslim Albanian phrase today,because Rama is Catholic from his mother and Orthodox from his father side.
Thank God that Rama spoke the truth!
Hopefully serbs will change their atitude toward Kosovo,recognise it and move on.Unfortunately most of them,they still live in 1944.

If you dont translate the speech of PM Rama,why bother inviting him?

Slap of reality in the face of Serbia...

For Serbs the truth always hurts.

Sure lets build bridges but conveniently choose to not translate what the other side has to say on the national television. To reconcile the differences means to listen to the other sides point of view and take it into consideration. If you do not agree with it at least let your position be known in a professional matter and do not sound like a pissed off high school jerk. The nationalist PM of Serbia is stuck in 1900's. Rama is right Serbia still hasn't adjusted to the new reality nor it will do so with the current mix of communists and fascists type of government. So the one hundred countries which have recognized Kosovo are all provoking Serbia. I am sorry to say but VUCIC you are JACKASS.

Albania does not have problems with its neighbors, it is Serbia which has open issues with every single one of its neighbors. Perhaps a self reflection in mirror it would help a bit.

Serbs again showed their true face. They're making it very easy for us.

So happy that the prime minister of my country (Albania) visited Serbia! Our countries need to communicate and move on! I wish all the best to all the Albanians and all the Serbs anywhere they are! May peace and prosperity come to the Balkans!

After this, Vučić said that Kosovo has always been and is a part of Serbia and "has nothing to do with Albania" - and that he will "not allow anyone to humiliate Serbia in Belgrade."

It is impossible to humiliate people that have no shame. And you serbs are shameless. Kosovo has never been Serbia's even when you had forty thousand troops there. Kosovo has everything to do with Albania because there are 2 million autochthonous Albanians living there. You serbs are the invaders that left the mountains of Afghanistan and Iran and showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century.

Could someone tell me why mr Rama's speech was not translated? Isn't that the point when a foreign primeminister visits your country? To hear what he has to say?

Serbia is moving backwards as quickly as possible. It's the milosevic era minus active war and genocide (only because they can't.) That's really the best that yr country can do? shame on you!

You've got to hand it to Vucic.
He said he wouldn't allow anybody to humiliate us, he criticised Rama for talking about Kosovo (but ensured that there was nobody translating what Rama said) and he said he didn't know what Rama (as Pres of Albania) has to do with Kosovo.

Meanwhile tomorrow Rama will be in Presevo giving a speech about Kosovo, humiliating Serbia (in Vucic's words) and involving himself with an issue that in an official capacity he has nothing to do with.

Hmm Vucic won't allow anybody to humiliate us.. right? If this was anything more than feigned outrage Vucic could quite easily cancel Rama's visit, even on false security grounds.

That kind of bile reminds me of another speech concerning nobody being allowed to beat us - which was followed by the largest mass exodus of Serbs to Serbia since the second world war.

So who exactly is humiliating 'us' here?

Mr. Vucic you Serbs have been saying Kosova is serbia all over. Fact of the matter is non one is listening to what you Serbs ha e to lie about anymore. You can say that in Triana too, and it still won't change the fact that Kosova is independent. Do what makes you happy, but remember your are EU's puppet. If they demand you to recognize Kosova as we speak, you will do so in a heart beat and you know it.

I see the meeting as a success except the risks that present the media manipulations of reality. ItIis very dangerous to present only part of reality. It misleads masses to wrong perceptions. I see this risks also in the partial reality presentation of rama speach even here in b92 which is liberal. Immagine what manipulation can a nationalistic media do.

Kosovo has everything to do with Albania because there are 2 million autochthonous Albanians living there. You serbs are the invaders that left the mountains of Afghanistan and Iran and showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century.
(Mark, 10 November 2014 16:23)

And yet, Albanians have zero history there. Not a single landmark. Not a single town with an Albanian name. Even the name "Kosovo" is Serbian. You people keep using this word "autochthonous" as if that's enough to legitimize your claim to a land. I don't even think you know what it means. Maybe Hoxha brainwashed you with that word when you were in school. Sorry bud, Albanian existence in Kosovo only started around 1700, with the most of you coming over in 1946 after fleeing from Hoxha (or did they come to overpopulate and then claim it was theirs all along? Sounds about right). So enough with the BS about Kosovo never being Serbian. Kosovo was never Albanian.

Hell, Kosovo has more legitimate reason to be part of Turkey than Albanian.

And check your statistics before you pleasure yourself with Albanian nationalism and statements that sounds like you're a whining teenager. Kosovo has around 1.8 million, not 2 million. Overbreeding in an area and then bastardizing the place names with Albanian phonetics does not give you historical claim to the land.

This was a totally forced meeting which none of the twoo prime ministers was happy about. I wouldn't say that the Serbian protocol was impecable as it should be, no matter which head of state visits. A prime minister is generally greeted by the prime minister at the airport and the flag of the visiting prime minister's country is displayed. Oh well...at least the Albanian national anthem was not jeered and there was no crowd chanting "UBI UBI SIPTARA", we should record that as a major achievement on the Serbian part.
As for the "provocation", both prime ministers were talking about the stability in the Balkans and what all its countries are doing to join EU. How could it be a provocation to talk about an independent republic which is recognized by the major countries of EU? If the Serbian state has decided to be blind and continue to be the "ostrich with its head in the sand", it is their problem. It shouldn't offend them that a prime minister mentions all of the Balkan countries aspiring to join EU. That's the fact, whether you like it or not, dear commentators.

Any outer source will confirm that slavic people came to the balkan very late, and that albanians, romanians and greeks are the autochtonous people. The BS that srebs read in their history textbooks is fabricated to brainwash them. Kosovo should have never be given to Yugoslavia in 1918, but that mistake the great powers did at the time which reflected the then balance of power was undone in 2008 by the US. The fact that more than half of the countries have recognized Kosovo speaks by itself as to which version of history the world dims true. The principle of state formation in Europe has been one people one State, and certainly Albanians and Serbs are different people, which is why Kosovo has nothing to do with Serbia.

Albania does not have problems with its neighbors
(XD, 10 November 2014 15:12)

Greeks, Serbs, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Croats and Italians would really really disagree with you. In fact, I can't think of any group that has anything positive to say about Albanians. Even in the rest of Europe, they're seen as little more than organized gypsies, minus the music and twice the crime.

I would like to comment this visit in Albanian media. I would greatly appreciate if somebody leave a link for Albanian website where I can comment in English. Something similar to B92 here.

Yet again, another Serbian leader makes a fool out of himself and his fascist country! And NO mr Vucic, Kosova has never been Serbian and never will be! Even under Serbia's 100+year barbaric type occupation, your barbaric Serbia could not impose control over the majority autochthonous Albanian population in Kosova! The indigenous Albanian population of Kosova has always been and will continue to be a dagger in Serbia's heart, and this will be true well into the future if Serbia continues on the fascist road she is currently riding on! Now, this indeed was historical on Albania's side, as it gives to the EU the best possible opportunity to see if Serbia has indeed been rehabilitated to a status of civilized, or is still animal-like, in short is Serbia truly ready to be givin EU membership? Albania, is in a key position to help get this question answered, Albania along with approximately another 108 democratic and civilized nations have recognized Kosova as a independent nation, so pressure must now be exerted upon Serbia to make the same democratic choice, this is if she wants to become a member of the EU or other international democratic institutions in the future? And one more quick point, whatever Serbia's choice and policy's may be towards Kosova, rest assured you Serbia will never again have controll or say so whatsoever when it comes to the Republic of Kosova and her people, as we the majority inhabitants of Kosova have chosen our own road & destiny! VELIKA ALBANIA!

Well, it seems Albania and Serbia have politicians...but no diplomats that's for sure.

Rama could have easily re-phrased his sermon as "...we understand that Serbia has a different point of view, but it is our belief that in the long term, recognition would be the best approach...etc., etc." without explictely telling the Serbian government what's best for Serbia. Serbia already knows that a bunch of countries have recognized Kosovo. No need to rub it in. It's called having class.

Vucic on the other hand, claiming that Albania has nothing to do with Kosovo, especially when considering what happened during the Kosovo war...well that definitely took some nerve too.

And of course, Vucic now promises to get "clever" in a future visit to Tirana. Isn't it cute when to watch two d**ks comparing d**ks... !

Albanian speaking here,

I really wish that our two nations leave the past behind and look together towards the future! We shouldn't hate each-other just because we come from two different places! You don't choose your neighbour as you don't choose your brother or sister! Let us live together like brothers and sisters in this home called the Balkans. We have more to share than to divide! Our national hero, Skanderbeg was of Serbian mother, as your saint, Saint Angelina was from Albania, daughter of another great hero of our lands, Gjergj Arianiti! In the battle of Kosovo-Polje (Fushe-Kosove) we fought side-by-side against a common enemy and Prince Teodor II Muzaka brought his army to aid Prince Lazar! Today, 600 hundred years later we have common enemies: nationalism, poverty, corruption, criminality etc. Isn't this the moment to fight together against this common enemies than to fight each-other for some borders that will never change! Be it for Greater Albania or Greater Serbia! There are so many Serbians in Albania, who work here and they are very friendly and they enjoy life here!And I think there are many Albanians in Serbia too! The future is ours and let's build it together!

As for today's meeting I would say:

Danas, specijalno u naša lokalnu, največe hit: "Dva kuracu u Beogradu, nek Albanac i nek Srpsko"

Ok, my Serbian sucks, but those two suck even more!

Greetings to all antifascists, to Serbian "prijatelji" and Albanian "shokë"!

As an Albanian, I really hope Kosovo goes back to Serbia. Less than 20 years, the autochthounous people of that region will take over and will reestablish the true face of that region, aka throwing out the russian immigrants(serbs) back to where they belong! Dont forget that the albanians are a growing population, and the serbs are dying. So Kosovo can be Serbia(for now;))

Aleksander Vucic Musliu, come to your fatherland, Albania

Did they stay side by side? Which of them was taller? Ours is very tall but yours looks tall too.

For the life of me I don't even get the persistence of Serbs to not mention Kosova. All Serbs get riled up as soon as Albanian prime-minister point out the obvious: the fact that Kosova is independent. You can not escape from this bitter reality no matter how hard you try to hide it. Serbian government complain that Rama has ''provoked'' because of his statement, while they find convenient to drop claims on 'Kosovo je Serbia' in daily basis. Serbs wake up: the sooner you understand this plain fact, the better are your chances to go ahead. But if you keep deluding yourself that Kosova is Serbia (sic!), then are you ready to deal with fact that in a period of less than 20 years Albanians will be the majority of Serbia's population given that serbs are dying out faster than snow melts in spring.

For Serbs the truth always hurts.
(azir, 10 November 2014 15:09)

For Albanians the truth always hurts when you spend all day downgrading comments you don't agree with.

'As a free-thinking human being, if Kosovo goes back to Serbia as you say...'

but it won't, so that fantasy of yours will remain, well a fantasy. Greetings from Prishtina, where it gets less Serbian every day

I still don't understand why Rama was invited at all. It's been so many years, let's just keep it that way. You're over there, we are here and that's it. There was nothing 'diplomatic' about this visit at all. To the airport with him now!

Serbs again showed their true face.
(Avni, 10 November 2014 15:04)

Yes, they invited the Albanian PM even after the stupid and unnecessary provocations from a few weeks ago. And even here, Rama has to be the pot stirrer we know him to be.

True faces indeed allowing someone into your house only to have him make demands from the host and clog up the upstairs toilet.

I'm sure you had a point, but as always, it's rarely conveyed.

I wonder if Vucic went to Tirana and called on the Albanian government to treat the Serb minority there with the same demands Albania expects their community in Presevo to be treated, you'd be calling for ethnic cleansing like you always do when you're pissed.

Thank goodness this charade is finally over. Sad that Rama and Vucic's dialogue has the same chest thumping intellectual caliber as what one can find in the comment sections here.

again we see the true face of the albanian propaganda machine at work. even when rama should be on his best behavior and show his guests what honorable europeans they are. incredible!

we in the international community have tried many times to extend the hand of cooperation and compromise the the tirana regime and every time they've spat on our offer. now we can see the intentions albania's prime minister (a term i very loosely use) is only meant to provoke. no need to translate what everyone knows and expects him to say!

no doubt this will be spun by the fascist media in albania as another victory for their aggressive agenda throughout se europe. i'm sure he's going to make more inappropriate statements tomorrow in presevo, but what can we expect from a country with a record of intolerance and a sense of exaggerated superiority over everyone else?

if 68 years have passed since the last visit by an albanian leader, it shows politics in tirana hasn't changed much. it's only by the hospitality of serbia he's even allowed to make a fool of himself.

ciao,

norberto
fiasco

the heavenly people sure get provoked easily. To say Kosovo is Srbije, which does not sit well with over 90% of those who actually dwell in Kosovo is not provocation but to suggest that Serbia accepts reality, which is that Kosovo is gone and it isn't going back is apprently provocation. Speaking of stirring things up, I wonder whether Nikolic suggesting that Vukovar is Serbian counts as provocative or not. Such thin skin has led to tragedies before, maybe a collective visit to psychiatric wards would do the heavenly people a world of good

Rama obviously doesn't have a good grasp of reality. The currently status of Kosovo is better described as a dysfunctional entity entirely dependent on a criminally corrupt EULEX.

This is what you get when you treat trash like princes. The last visit from Albania was some useless Maoist dictator. Now this. The next visit will be ... never.

Where other countries has this little punk been invited to? Was he allowed to use the lavatory?

Serbs are a bunch of fathead, thick sculled Neanderthals who are stuck in the middle ages. You are a bunch of savages who are stuck in crusade era. You are the least respected ‘race’ in Europe, if not the most hated. You aren't even liked by your own people, the Croats hate you, the Slovenians hate you, the Bosnians hate you, “Macedonians’ don’t like you, the Montenegrin don’t like you. What does it say about you when your own 'kind' can't stand you. You are a bunch of blinded brutally ignorant society as a whole. You are so pathetic and blinded you don’t realize you're being exploited by mother Rusia for their own benefit who will one day discard you like you are an old piece of clothing once they have no need for you. Look at what’s happening in Ukraine. Look at what’s happening in Greece. Another pathetic excuse of a nation whose backward mentality and total disregard for other people around them has gotten them in the hell they are in. You are a failed people a pathetic excuse of a nation that creates nothing but problems. Who have committed war crimes against humanity only 15 years ago. And yet have the 'sense' to express the things that go on in your twisted barbaric minds and try to justify what the whole world saw with their very own eyes! Now...! go chase some drones...like the cowards that you truly are

As an Albanian, I really hope Kosovo goes back to Serbia. Less than 20 years, the autochthounous people of that region will take over and will reestablish the true face of that region, aka throwing out the russian immigrants(serbs) back to where they belong!
(Dardani, 10 November 2014 14:23)

As a free-thinking human being, if Kosovo goes back to Serbia as you say, you can be sure the "autochthounous" (get the spelling right if you're going to use it as a propaganda tool) people will be Serbs as VS will kick all your mountain Turks back to Albania where you came from. You all can overbreed there and sustain yourselves on the pride of your fictitious history as you kill each other for what scraps of food are left.

Oh WoW, Vucic calls it a provocation because Rama mentioned Kosovo?
And I thought this was a business meeting.
Someone has to remind Vucic that Kosovo is the reason both nations don't see eye to eye and if you want to improve political relations you need to address that issue. Hiding from problems never worked for anyone.

.. and for God's sake, stop calling a provocation everything you don't feel comfortable with. Stop acting like menopausal women

(Ari Gold, 11 November 2014 12:44)

Actually, Thaci predicted 100 recognitions. The current number is 108 with a few more coming very soon.

The difference between Kosovo and Palestine is that Kosovo is able to exercise its power in its sovereign territory, Palestine isn't. Palestine would love to be in Kosovo's position.

And yes, Kosovo isn't in the UN but Kosovo is joining UN organisations/ specialised agencies individually where it cannot be vetoed. Soon Kosovo will have all the perks of UN membership minus the right to be elected to sit on the security council. Whoopty do! It won't be long before Kosovo's flag is flying outside the UN General Assembly just like it currently flies outside several other UN organisations.

EULEX was established before Kosovo became independent, only Kosovo could approve an extension of its mandate, not Serbia. EULEX's role isn't "nation building", it is to assist Kosovo's Police and to help establish Kosovo's judicial system. After its mandate was extended in the summer, its role changed once again, this time to deal more specifically with war crimes. These corruption allegations have given Kosovo the perfect excuse not to extend its mandate in the future.

You haven't got a clue about the EU. EU laws are made by democratically elected MEPs in the European Parliament. Without the approval of the Parliament, they do not become law.

Kosovo wasn't the topic of this meeting,so I don't see why Rama had to mention Kosovo in the way he did, when he could predict the reaction. I think it was inappropriate. Vucic looked like he wanted the meeting and press conference to went well, until the mention of Kosovo. I see people saying about the reality of Kosovo. The reality is, the north is Serbian,and the rest is under Albanian control, or better said "Kosovars" control. Kosovo is not in UN to be recognized as normal country, and could have the destiny of Palestine. And about not translating during live broadcast, they already said sorry about it, and they will rebroadcast it with the translate..so don't look for national motives in that, it's stupid. I see haters coming here to comment. I don't see anyone here said anything good about this happening.

What else can you expect from an albanian except a cynical provocation, that's all they do. I don't see what the purpose of this visit was. rama and albanians have hostile policies to all their neighbors, so what is the purpose to talk to people like that? They are intolerant fanatical people and want to create ethnically pure state like al qaeda or isis (islamic state).

I don't get why Rama finds it so hard to keep his mouth shut about Kosovo, we all know what he thinks. Besides, I also don't get why this meeting organised by Berlin had to take place, i mean look at their faces, it's so obvious no one can stand the other! It's definitely a step backwards not forward. I believe they should have met a couple of years later (AT LEAST). Now is not a good time.... tensions are high already. But when the Serbian side chooses to compromise and allow the Albanian PM to come to Belgrade and go to Presevo it was really rude of Rama to act that way. It's obvious here who has better manners.

Thank you B92 for giving us this opportunity to communicate amongst us. We need more such sites.
Now let me start with the game. Serbia's hosting of the game in Albania is incomprehensible, and I am not just saying this, but every single person who has ever been to Albania will tell you this. In Albania hosting an event like this is Incomprehensible. I can tell you that even now, even after the game and the conference, still Serbian team and even fans can walk freely in the streets of Tirana and get a pint somewhere with the locals. This is by no means an exaggeration! What happened to the Albanian team in Serbia is alien to the Albanian public. I am talking about the fact that Albanians from landing and throughout their stay in Serbia were treated appallingly. No fans were allowed to follow the national team, the national anthem was booed, the chants "kill all Albanians so none lives", full of flag depicting war criminals and then suddenly the drone carrying the Albanian flag in a map that shows the areas inhabited by Albanians is the provocation after all this? I am by no means taking sides but that's taking the piss!! To add on top of that that hooligans enter the field attacking players and security staff joins in!

As for Rama's visit, again I can't see how Rama mentioning Kosovo is a provocation. Over 90% Albanians there and Albania has an historical and constitutional duty towards Albanians in the region! Please grow up! Just don't agree with it, simple.

"Yes, more albanians come to this site for the mere fact that they know Kosovo is not independent until Serbia recognizes it. Think, if they really felt otherwise, they wouldn't waste their dirty fingers typing comments here EVERYDAY. I don't go on any albo websites, and i promise you 99% of other serbs don't either!"

so by your logic, since you don't spend time on Albanian websites, it proves that Kosovo is independent? i hadn't realised that ones independence hinged on not making appearances on comment sections of news portals. you learn something new everyday. p.s. come to holy Kosmet and see how a part of Serbia it really is

As a Serbian I am, it hurts to say, but we really need to accept Kosovo as independent and move on ! We are neighbours and will always be! Nobody can change that! The time for territories is over. As the albanian PM said, we all have same enemies : poverty, bad economy, etc. Let's stop being foolish, and try to become europeans ! Sometimes it feels like we balkan people are the cancer of Europe! We still have such problems even in the 21st century! MOVE ON PEOPLE!
(Branislav, 10 November 2014 19:25)

If Kosovo-Metohija was independent, there would not be so much pressure on Serbia by Western governments to actively work on making this the case. Serbia is told that it must do what it can to implement the "kosovo constitution", but when in history has it been the responsibility of one independent country to implement the constitution of another?

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.

Let's say the truth, Serbian politicians made everything possible to cancel the visit and then to minimize it. So if not for anything else Rama's "provocation" was the best way to get intention.

Some serbs are willing a new war, and some albanians too. But the war is not an option. We have to live in peace even if we don't want to, and the only way to live in peace is to know each other. To know each other truly, face to face, not from the trench as we have done so far.

And when we will know which other we will discover that we have much more in common that we can imagine. We should not be afraid of the truth, we should not be afraid that if we lose our hate we will lose our dignity and living in peace doesn't mean that we will betray our own history and doesn't mean to jeopardize our future. On the contrary. It means to remember the past but to live in the present in able to build our future.

If we let our relatioship to be in the hands of Ivan the Terrible or some dumphead with a drone then we should be sorry for ourselves.

Those who have read my previous comments will know that I am always amused by the overuse of the word "provocation" in the Balkans. Perhaps something gets lost in translation. Just ignore the man and don't allow yourself to be provoked, it really is very easy.

Dear Serbs!Relax. Finally we have leaders like Rama and Vucic, that base their politic career on Greater Europe and not speculative nationalists project of Greater Albania or Greater Serbia. The European Balkan without borders is the solution for all our citizens. Is the solution for all of them that want unification of Serbs or Albanians, but more is solution for the majority of quiet Serbs and Albanians that want a peaceful and prosperous Balkan for their family and their kids. Rama had the courage to say it loudly. I think doing so, he helped Vucic that is more complexed from internal nationalist pressure. EU is the medicine for all of us. Faster we move on on European path, better is for all of us.Peace,dignity and prosperity for all of us!

When the US, Germany, France, UK, etc diplomats who are the biggest proponents of Kosovo independence visit Serbia, it is never considered a provocation, why? It is because usually Serbia is expecting money at some point. Serbia remains focused on its pride and principles when there is no money involved.
The aforementioned countries are probably the major influence for 75% of the recognitions Kosovo has received and 100% the reason for the admission into international organizations it has achieved. Albania is probably not responsible for any of the major recognitions, but yet they are a provocation and the others are not. Can anyone name a difference other than the flow of money?
In the same statement that Vucic says it was an diplomatic insult, he states he will do the same when he visits Tirana. In other words he has shown the world he is but a child and NOT a world leader. Just as Jeremic showed the world he was not a world leader in his position at the UNGA, Vucic is showing the world that he too is not a leader that will bring the Balkans onto the world stage as anything other than a side show.

Speaking up your mind, boldly to your opponents, or friends whoever they are, is a a virtue of democratic people.
If you cannot accept the free opinion of someone else just because it is not the same as yours, is a medieval way of thinking. This was a great opportunity for both countries to show that they are ready to take that path in to the European family.
Albania has proved it and is continuously proving it, while Serbia cannot let go its past.

Kosovo is Albania
Macedonia is Greece
Greeks and Albanians are native people in the Balkan peninsula.
Slavs are only visitors.
Greetings to our Serb brothers from Greece.

Is there more Albanians than Serbians that come to this site?? Maybe you should have some advertisements directed at the Albanians.

Is there more Albanians than Serbians that come to this site?? Maybe you should have some advertisements directed at the Albanians.
(sugar, 10 November 2014 21:33)

Hey sugar, this is nothing, in 35-50 years we Albanians will be the majority in Serbia itself! The then Serbian minority will be requesting that we advertise for them on B92, or maybe we Albanians will change it a bit and call it B29? Again, 50 years tops!

I feel sorry to see the poor reaction of Mr.Vucic toward another prime-minister. Remove of earpiece when Mr. Rama was speaking?! No Albanian Flag at the aeroport? This is your hospitality Mr. Vucic? This is lack of respect, deliberately? It is not ethical. It is not correct. It is not diplomacy. Shame on you.
(Ledi, 10 November 2014 14:53)

i agree, the standard of serbia, welcoming other nations without flag, very disrespectful and uncivilized people, seriously we live in 2014 soon 2015,,,,,the same old stuff does not fly no more. just pathetic....totally, there aren't any words to describe this historic moment that serbia could of made

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 November 2014 20:01)

When has North Korea ever been pressured to recognise South Korea? Never. You do realise that both Koreas claim to be the sole legitimate government of all Korea?

And another thing, I'm not entirely convinced that Serbia is under pressure to recognise Kosovo, unless you consider the visit of Edi Rama to Belgrade as pressure to recognise Kosovo? Albania is hardly a political heavy weight. Serbia has been told on may occasions it doesn't have to recognise Kosovo to join the EU. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if Serbia doesn't recognise Kosovo because Serbia's recognition wouldn't change anything on the ground; reality would remain the same. Kosovo already has enough international recognition to join international organisations and international sport federations. There are only like 20 countries in the world which are opposed to Kosovo and Kosovo doesn't need them to exist.

"But one things for sure, Pristina is only slightly less "independent" than the UK. Given the fact that 75% of your laws are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats in Brussels, you are not much of a country at all."

oh dear, the stupidity of one named Ari Gold continues. Perhaps if Serbia was lucky enough to have their laws made in Brussels or rather, sign up to EU laws, they could have avoided numerous tragedies. This is what the British populace gains by having their laws in line with EU ones: access to a wide labour market, access to education in the continent on the same fees as those born there, unrestricted residency rights, unrestricted investment rights, unrestricted social security rights...meanwhile in Serbia, that proud country that bends to no one (rubbish, it bends very easily), enrolling to study abroad, high fees, restricted labour market, restricted investment opportunities...this Ari Gold is why you don't live in Serbia and never will be living there. and you'd be stupid to

once again serbia and serbs are uncivilized and they don't belong in Europe, they promote the old violence and want to be the boss in the balkans, those times are gone,,,,,next time go buy a new flag of Albania and put it up, you still have the 1912 double-headed eagle that Ismail Qemali declared independence of Great Albania...Pathetic idiots

Serbia's History of Tolerance

Serbia attacked Slovenia.
Serbia attacked Croatia.
Serbia attacked Bosnia.
Serbia attacked Kosova.

Serbia didn not attack neither Slovenia nor Bosnia or Croatia and Kosovo is a part of Serbia. Slovenes attacked remaining JNA Soldiers, VRS fought in Bosnia and VRSK in Croatia supported by the JNA. Maybe you should try to inform your self Before spreading lies.

So, if Rama didn't mention Kosovo would change...what? Albania has recognized Kosovo independence since 1991 and Serbia doesn't want to recognize Kosovo. This is clear to everybody, then why hide behind the finger?

And what's wrong with Vucic's logic? "What does Albania has to do with Kosovo?" and he considered this declaration a provocation and that Rama "acted as a bad guest" but he will do the same in Tirana saying "Kosovo is Serbia"? What's this, some kid game?

If Vucic considered it a provocation what should Rama say about the missing Albanian flag in Serbian airport?

And why were cancelled the meetings with President Nikolic, President of National Assembly of Serbia? Because they knew about the provocation before the visit just how they knew about the flag provocation before the match?

Look at all these pathetic, unemployed, albo trolls coming on here and multiple voting on their laughable posts...lol. You're a bunch of clowns, and I have only one message for you....Kosovo is Serbia, always has been, always will be. Enjoy your temporary status, when the yanks leave, you'll get what you deserve. :)
Cheers!!

VELIKA ALBANIA!
(Rocky, 10 November 2014 17:33)

Greater/Ethnic/Natural/Mutant Albania belongs in the trash heap along with every other Greater Project that came before it. You're not only once again 25 years behind everyone else, you're too stupid to realize better countries tried this and failed.

But since Albanian nationalism is all talk and no action, it lives on only in the videos you watch and edit on You Tube.

Thank God Russia's power is increasing by the day... I see they just signed another 400 billion deal with China, and that Romania & Poland just announced that their hopes of finding shale gas (as promised by the US) were destroyed after drilling for 3 years proved no such reserves exist. The future is looking very bright for Serbia. Its main ally growing stronger, and its enemies "allies" are growing weaker. Just look at the past 15 years of how much has changed... Imagine what the next 15 will look like. :)

If Montenegro which happens to share same religion and language with Serbia got its independence how does it logically make sense that Kosovo should not? Kosovo has absolutely nothing in common with Serbia. If Kosovo was Serbia why is that almost the entire population does not share the language, religion or any tradition. I would also understand if Serbia only had issues with Kosovo in region, but they essentially do not get along with most countries in Balkan including Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Albania. That itself shows who the problematic country in the region is.
Serbia needs to stop being such a disruptive force in Balkan. They need to pick whether they support Russia or European Union and stick to it.

as we the majority inhabitants of Kosova have chosen our own road & destiny! VELIKA ALBANIA!
(Rocky, 10 November 2014 17:33)

You do not even understand how big of a proponent I am of Greater Albania. I mean if there is one thing that will solve all the open issues in the region once and for all that is for the rabid Albanians to start getting wild again and try to incorporate Presevo, parts of FYR Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece into their occupation of Kosovo-Metohija.

I only ask that you get started already. In a sense you kind of have with the RPG rockets that were launched into a Macedonian gov't building in Skoplje. But try harder, it's time!

Branislav you,unlike the majority Serbs appear reasonable.

But don't forget the Kosovar Municipalities in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Serbia will recogize Kosova's Independence.

Then we can all Move On.

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 November 2014 20:01)

Nonsense Ari, Serbia isn't being pressured by anyone. If, however, Serbia insists on getting on her knees before the EU, how can that be considered pressure. Just as feeling demonized, no one asked Serbia to butcher children and women, it was done by her own free will. That type of behavior does not ingratiate ones neighbors.
Everyone can agree Serbia has managed to have done this to herself.

What matters is not this press conference but the fact that Serbia has appointed dejan pavicevic its formal ambassdor to Kosovo. Trains Serbs to be border guards and customs agents on serbias international style border with Kosovo. Serbia played a huge role in getting Kosovo FIFA friendlys and IOC membership. Vucic dacic and campaigned for Kosovo Serbs to vote on republic of Kosovo ballots and elected Serbs to swear oaths to the republic of kosovo. Krstic wouldn't but pantic did. Serbia's effort to make Kosovo a real country is unparalleled now. Probably because he was in Belgrade and not Brussels be has to be careful so as to not be charged with treason and respect serbias constitution that includes Kosovo.

The article says: Vucic added that he will "talk about Kosovo being Serbian when he travels to Tirana for a return visit."
Rama's reply was even nicer, and it's a shame the Serbian media (including B92) censors Rama's speech. Rama told him: you could come and feel free to express your view in Tirana and we won't feel "provoked", but only disappointed.

Another point missing here is when an Albanian journalist mentioned Vucic's accusations towards Rama's brother on the drone and asked Vucic if that was ever settled. Vucic totally avoided the question because he knew his accusations were fabricated lies.

It is a shame that Rama's speech was censored in Serbia. Rama is a world-class politician and likely the most capable leader in the Balkans today. Through his values, intelligence and class, he showed civility and European values, while the entire Serbian political caste only showed their lack of morale and their inferiority to Rama. They came out as liars and manipulators, as spineless “leaders” who are too afraid to face the truth.

There is no provocation here. A provocation would be if Rama said “Kosovo is Albania”. The fact that Kosovo is independent and recognized by over 100 countries is a truth, not a provocation. How could anyone expect Rama to not talk about Kosovo? That would be like ignoring the 1000kg elephant in the living room. Serbian leaders should mature into adults and talk about these issues as leaders instead of acting like sensitive cry-babies.

But Kosovo is independent county Mr. Vucic. The sooner you accept it the better for your own wellbeing :)

Somebody was clearly paid by the Albanian authorities to monitor this article today. There's absolutely no way that many positive votes could be given on otherwise trolling comments and that many negative votes could be given to opposing views. And with so many posts from unknown Albanians, clearly someone in their camp is paranoid enough to spend that much time on a Serbian site spinning one's side. It's as if they spent all day voting up and voting down, refreshing the page, and starting over. And what's more, the huge votes stopped after a certain point and went back to normal. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was a paid job since Albanians are notorious for sniping every article written about them and clogging up the comment section with statements that seem right out of a Borat movie.

Yes, more albanians come to this site for the mere fact that they know Kosovo is not independent until Serbia recognizes it. Think, if they really felt otherwise, they wouldn't waste their dirty fingers typing comments here EVERYDAY. I don't go on any albo websites, and i promise you 99% of other serbs don't either!

Hey sugar, this is nothing, in 35-50 years we Albanians will be the majority in Serbia itself!
(rocky, 11 November 2014 02:50)

Rocky, if in 25 - 50 years Albanians are still overpopulating like crazy, there's no hope for you since economic development, women's rights, and medical hygiene all proved ineffective in bringing you into the First World community of European nations. Try thinking of better ways to increase your standards of living and decision-making abilities than breeding like rats.

anislav you,unlike the majority Serbs appear reasonable.

But don't forget the Kosovar Municipalities in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Serbia will recogize Kosova's Independence.

Then we can all Move On.
(azir, 10 November 2014 20:39)

Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja are communities in southern Serbia with a Serbian majority so I dont really know what your talking about. And when you mention these, dont u forget about northern Kosovo.

Ian,

literally everything you said is so littered with errors that idk where to start. I'm glad that you are such a Albanian ultra nationalist that you feel you know what organ trafficker Hashish said back in 08.

I distinctly remember him saying 150 recognitions, not 100. But I have no doubt in my mind that you know better what this terrorist said because after all you openly support his criminality and the organs he's carved.

But whether it was 150 or 100, what I can bank on is he predicted these recognitions within the first year and that was obviously a fantasy. You see real countries do not spend over 5 years trying to buy 'recognitions' from corrupt dictatorships. Ask South Sudan, they declared independence in 2013 and within months were in the UN.

As far as EU and its missions go, you couldn't be more wrong. But what could one expect from a fringe EU extremist who openly supports the transfer of power from the national level to Brussels. You think the MEP's make the laws and not the unelected EU commission? May God help you.

You think that EULEX did not need Serbia to exist, so why was Serbia pressured to sign EULEX into law? You think they are there to help with the courts and justice and yet we can see daily articles coming out of Pristina about EULEX corruption.

The EU is trying to build a nation in Kosovo-Metohija as much as they are in the EU itself, and both seem to be failing miserably. Less KLA in your life Ian, more UKIP.

The difference between Kosovo and Palestine is that Kosovo is able to exercise its power in its sovereign territory, Palestine isn't. Palestine would love to be in Kosovo's position.

And yes, Kosovo isn't in the UN but Kosovo is joining UN organisations/ specialised agencies individually where it cannot be vetoed. Soon Kosovo will have all the perks of UN membership minus the right to be elected to sit on the security council. Whoopty do! It won't be long before Kosovo's flag is flying outside the UN General Assembly just like it currently flies outside several other UN organisations.
(Ian, UK, 11 November 2014 15:44)

LOL oh man Ian, you really have your head up your ass today. Are you paid by the Albanian lobbyists in the UK to spew this worthless propaganda or did you come up with these doozies on your own? Where in the world do you think Kosovo's flag will fly outside the UN when they can't even play football friendlies without causing a stir? And where can Kosovo exercise its power in its own sovereign territory? It can't even solve problems in Pristina, let alone the north.

You sampling some of Kosovo's drug supply to get these hallucinations?

(Ian, UK, 11 November 2014 11:24)

Well for the clan-based narco kleptocracy to "exist" (live hand-to-mouth off Western tax payer donations), is NATO-KFOR military occupation of sovereign Serbian territory. In 2008, Thaci predicted that 150 countries would recognize their proclamation and today it's around 100 with billions of dollars spent in lobbying governments from guess where? NATO governments who have to try to legitimize their aggression on Serbia.

But real countries don't still seek UN status 6 years on. Pristina is not a member of the UN, and at best could hope for a Palestine status which isn't membership. That's why immense pressure is on Serbia because the reality on the ground is only Serbia can legitimize the injustice.

Only Serbia could sign off on bringing EULEX in for "nation building". And what a stupid move, the corrupt EU mission landed in a haven for corruption and well we see what is happening there. Not that you would take the time to comment on it, because it's not convenient for you.

But one things for sure, Pristina is only slightly less "independent" than the UK. Given the fact that 75% of your laws are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats in Brussels, you are not much of a country at all. But you actually support that, don't you? Even though popular opinion in your own country is turning against you.

So you find salvation in your KLA brethren on B92 who call you a god whereas in the UK you're a increasingly fringe lefty lunatic.

@ daniel. how did Serbia attack Slovenia. hey your facts straight

"The reality is that Serbia's position is that Kosovo and Metohija is a part of Serbia, I'm glad that I can repeat it before Mr. Rama," said the Serbian prime minister, adding that he was sorry the Albanian prime minister took the opportunity to mention an independent Kosovo."

I like Mr. Vucic approach. I would also like to add that Santa is real.

If Montenegro which happens to share same religion and language with Serbia got its independence how does it logically make sense that Kosovo should not?
(Captain Kosova, 12 November 2014 23:24)


I think the official Serbian script is, "because churches and a bottle"

That's what I was getting at (trying to give a nice hint).... The Albanians are trying hard to convince everyone about something that is not. I cant read an article without the Albanians trying to be history revisionist.

@ Branislav. you don't know crap

So who exactly is humiliating 'us' here?
(bganon, 10 November 2014 16:11)
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Well said.

again we see the true face of the albanian propaganda machine at work. even when rama should be on his best behavior and show his guests what honorable europeans they are. incredible!

we in the international community have tried many times to extend the hand of cooperation and compromise the the tirana regime and every time they've spat on our offer. now we can see the intentions albania's prime minister (a term i very loosely use) is only meant to provoke. no need to translate what everyone knows and expects him to say!

no doubt this will be spun by the fascist media in albania as another victory for their aggressive agenda throughout se europe. i'm sure he's going to make more inappropriate statements tomorrow in presevo, but what can we expect from a country with a record of intolerance and a sense of exaggerated superiority over everyone else?

if 68 years have passed since the last visit by an albanian leader, it shows politics in tirana hasn't changed much. it's only by the hospitality of serbia he's even allowed to make a fool of himself.

ciao,

norberto
fiasco

What else can you expect from an albanian except a cynical provocation, that's all they do. I don't see what the purpose of this visit was. rama and albanians have hostile policies to all their neighbors, so what is the purpose to talk to people like that? They are intolerant fanatical people and want to create ethnically pure state like al qaeda or isis (islamic state).

Albania does not have problems with its neighbors
(XD, 10 November 2014 15:12)

Greeks, Serbs, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Croats and Italians would really really disagree with you. In fact, I can't think of any group that has anything positive to say about Albanians. Even in the rest of Europe, they're seen as little more than organized gypsies, minus the music and twice the crime.

As an Albanian, I really hope Kosovo goes back to Serbia. Less than 20 years, the autochthounous people of that region will take over and will reestablish the true face of that region, aka throwing out the russian immigrants(serbs) back to where they belong! Dont forget that the albanians are a growing population, and the serbs are dying. So Kosovo can be Serbia(for now;))

Kosovo has everything to do with Albania because there are 2 million autochthonous Albanians living there. You serbs are the invaders that left the mountains of Afghanistan and Iran and showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century.
(Mark, 10 November 2014 16:23)

And yet, Albanians have zero history there. Not a single landmark. Not a single town with an Albanian name. Even the name "Kosovo" is Serbian. You people keep using this word "autochthonous" as if that's enough to legitimize your claim to a land. I don't even think you know what it means. Maybe Hoxha brainwashed you with that word when you were in school. Sorry bud, Albanian existence in Kosovo only started around 1700, with the most of you coming over in 1946 after fleeing from Hoxha (or did they come to overpopulate and then claim it was theirs all along? Sounds about right). So enough with the BS about Kosovo never being Serbian. Kosovo was never Albanian.

Hell, Kosovo has more legitimate reason to be part of Turkey than Albanian.

And check your statistics before you pleasure yourself with Albanian nationalism and statements that sounds like you're a whining teenager. Kosovo has around 1.8 million, not 2 million. Overbreeding in an area and then bastardizing the place names with Albanian phonetics does not give you historical claim to the land.

I still don't understand why Rama was invited at all. It's been so many years, let's just keep it that way. You're over there, we are here and that's it. There was nothing 'diplomatic' about this visit at all. To the airport with him now!

Kosovo wasn't the topic of this meeting,so I don't see why Rama had to mention Kosovo in the way he did, when he could predict the reaction. I think it was inappropriate. Vucic looked like he wanted the meeting and press conference to went well, until the mention of Kosovo. I see people saying about the reality of Kosovo. The reality is, the north is Serbian,and the rest is under Albanian control, or better said "Kosovars" control. Kosovo is not in UN to be recognized as normal country, and could have the destiny of Palestine. And about not translating during live broadcast, they already said sorry about it, and they will rebroadcast it with the translate..so don't look for national motives in that, it's stupid. I see haters coming here to comment. I don't see anyone here said anything good about this happening.

Serbia's History of Tolerance

Serbia attacked Slovenia.
Serbia attacked Croatia.
Serbia attacked Bosnia.
Serbia attacked Kosova.

Serbia is definitely NOT a source of stability and at peace with her neighbors.

I don't get why Rama finds it so hard to keep his mouth shut about Kosovo, we all know what he thinks. Besides, I also don't get why this meeting organised by Berlin had to take place, i mean look at their faces, it's so obvious no one can stand the other! It's definitely a step backwards not forward. I believe they should have met a couple of years later (AT LEAST). Now is not a good time.... tensions are high already. But when the Serbian side chooses to compromise and allow the Albanian PM to come to Belgrade and go to Presevo it was really rude of Rama to act that way. It's obvious here who has better manners.

Serbs again showed their true face.
(Avni, 10 November 2014 15:04)

Yes, they invited the Albanian PM even after the stupid and unnecessary provocations from a few weeks ago. And even here, Rama has to be the pot stirrer we know him to be.

True faces indeed allowing someone into your house only to have him make demands from the host and clog up the upstairs toilet.

I'm sure you had a point, but as always, it's rarely conveyed.

I wonder if Vucic went to Tirana and called on the Albanian government to treat the Serb minority there with the same demands Albania expects their community in Presevo to be treated, you'd be calling for ethnic cleansing like you always do when you're pissed.

Thank goodness this charade is finally over. Sad that Rama and Vucic's dialogue has the same chest thumping intellectual caliber as what one can find in the comment sections here.

Serbia's History of Tolerance

Serbia attacked Slovenia.
Serbia attacked Croatia.
Serbia attacked Bosnia.
Serbia attacked Kosova.

Serbia didn not attack neither Slovenia nor Bosnia or Croatia and Kosovo is a part of Serbia. Slovenes attacked remaining JNA Soldiers, VRS fought in Bosnia and VRSK in Croatia supported by the JNA. Maybe you should try to inform your self Before spreading lies.

For Serbs the truth always hurts.
(azir, 10 November 2014 15:09)

For Albanians the truth always hurts when you spend all day downgrading comments you don't agree with.

For Serbs the truth always hurts.

As an Albanian, I really hope Kosovo goes back to Serbia. Less than 20 years, the autochthounous people of that region will take over and will reestablish the true face of that region, aka throwing out the russian immigrants(serbs) back to where they belong!
(Dardani, 10 November 2014 14:23)

As a free-thinking human being, if Kosovo goes back to Serbia as you say, you can be sure the "autochthounous" (get the spelling right if you're going to use it as a propaganda tool) people will be Serbs as VS will kick all your mountain Turks back to Albania where you came from. You all can overbreed there and sustain yourselves on the pride of your fictitious history as you kill each other for what scraps of food are left.

Rama obviously doesn't have a good grasp of reality. The currently status of Kosovo is better described as a dysfunctional entity entirely dependent on a criminally corrupt EULEX.

This is what you get when you treat trash like princes. The last visit from Albania was some useless Maoist dictator. Now this. The next visit will be ... never.

Where other countries has this little punk been invited to? Was he allowed to use the lavatory?

Serbia is moving backwards as quickly as possible. It's the milosevic era minus active war and genocide (only because they can't.) That's really the best that yr country can do? shame on you!

Slap of reality in the face of Serbia...

Serbs again showed their true face. They're making it very easy for us.

(Ian, UK, 11 November 2014 11:24)

Well for the clan-based narco kleptocracy to "exist" (live hand-to-mouth off Western tax payer donations), is NATO-KFOR military occupation of sovereign Serbian territory. In 2008, Thaci predicted that 150 countries would recognize their proclamation and today it's around 100 with billions of dollars spent in lobbying governments from guess where? NATO governments who have to try to legitimize their aggression on Serbia.

But real countries don't still seek UN status 6 years on. Pristina is not a member of the UN, and at best could hope for a Palestine status which isn't membership. That's why immense pressure is on Serbia because the reality on the ground is only Serbia can legitimize the injustice.

Only Serbia could sign off on bringing EULEX in for "nation building". And what a stupid move, the corrupt EU mission landed in a haven for corruption and well we see what is happening there. Not that you would take the time to comment on it, because it's not convenient for you.

But one things for sure, Pristina is only slightly less "independent" than the UK. Given the fact that 75% of your laws are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats in Brussels, you are not much of a country at all. But you actually support that, don't you? Even though popular opinion in your own country is turning against you.

So you find salvation in your KLA brethren on B92 who call you a god whereas in the UK you're a increasingly fringe lefty lunatic.

I feel sorry to see the poor reaction of Mr.Vucic toward another prime-minister. Remove of earpiece when Mr. Rama was speaking?! No Albanian Flag at the aeroport? This is your hospitality Mr. Vucic? This is lack of respect, deliberately? It is not ethical. It is not correct. It is not diplomacy. Shame on you.

Mr. Vucic you Serbs have been saying Kosova is serbia all over. Fact of the matter is non one is listening to what you Serbs ha e to lie about anymore. You can say that in Triana too, and it still won't change the fact that Kosova is independent. Do what makes you happy, but remember your are EU's puppet. If they demand you to recognize Kosova as we speak, you will do so in a heart beat and you know it.

After this, Vučić said that Kosovo has always been and is a part of Serbia and "has nothing to do with Albania" - and that he will "not allow anyone to humiliate Serbia in Belgrade."

It is impossible to humiliate people that have no shame. And you serbs are shameless. Kosovo has never been Serbia's even when you had forty thousand troops there. Kosovo has everything to do with Albania because there are 2 million autochthonous Albanians living there. You serbs are the invaders that left the mountains of Afghanistan and Iran and showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century.

Serbs can not use the Muslim Albanian phrase today,because Rama is Catholic from his mother and Orthodox from his father side.
Thank God that Rama spoke the truth!
Hopefully serbs will change their atitude toward Kosovo,recognise it and move on.Unfortunately most of them,they still live in 1944.

If you dont translate the speech of PM Rama,why bother inviting him?

Yet again, another Serbian leader makes a fool out of himself and his fascist country! And NO mr Vucic, Kosova has never been Serbian and never will be! Even under Serbia's 100+year barbaric type occupation, your barbaric Serbia could not impose control over the majority autochthonous Albanian population in Kosova! The indigenous Albanian population of Kosova has always been and will continue to be a dagger in Serbia's heart, and this will be true well into the future if Serbia continues on the fascist road she is currently riding on! Now, this indeed was historical on Albania's side, as it gives to the EU the best possible opportunity to see if Serbia has indeed been rehabilitated to a status of civilized, or is still animal-like, in short is Serbia truly ready to be givin EU membership? Albania, is in a key position to help get this question answered, Albania along with approximately another 108 democratic and civilized nations have recognized Kosova as a independent nation, so pressure must now be exerted upon Serbia to make the same democratic choice, this is if she wants to become a member of the EU or other international democratic institutions in the future? And one more quick point, whatever Serbia's choice and policy's may be towards Kosova, rest assured you Serbia will never again have controll or say so whatsoever when it comes to the Republic of Kosova and her people, as we the majority inhabitants of Kosova have chosen our own road & destiny! VELIKA ALBANIA!

Somebody was clearly paid by the Albanian authorities to monitor this article today. There's absolutely no way that many positive votes could be given on otherwise trolling comments and that many negative votes could be given to opposing views. And with so many posts from unknown Albanians, clearly someone in their camp is paranoid enough to spend that much time on a Serbian site spinning one's side. It's as if they spent all day voting up and voting down, refreshing the page, and starting over. And what's more, the huge votes stopped after a certain point and went back to normal. I wouldn't even be surprised if this was a paid job since Albanians are notorious for sniping every article written about them and clogging up the comment section with statements that seem right out of a Borat movie.

Sure lets build bridges but conveniently choose to not translate what the other side has to say on the national television. To reconcile the differences means to listen to the other sides point of view and take it into consideration. If you do not agree with it at least let your position be known in a professional matter and do not sound like a pissed off high school jerk. The nationalist PM of Serbia is stuck in 1900's. Rama is right Serbia still hasn't adjusted to the new reality nor it will do so with the current mix of communists and fascists type of government. So the one hundred countries which have recognized Kosovo are all provoking Serbia. I am sorry to say but VUCIC you are JACKASS.

Albania does not have problems with its neighbors, it is Serbia which has open issues with every single one of its neighbors. Perhaps a self reflection in mirror it would help a bit.

as we the majority inhabitants of Kosova have chosen our own road & destiny! VELIKA ALBANIA!
(Rocky, 10 November 2014 17:33)

You do not even understand how big of a proponent I am of Greater Albania. I mean if there is one thing that will solve all the open issues in the region once and for all that is for the rabid Albanians to start getting wild again and try to incorporate Presevo, parts of FYR Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece into their occupation of Kosovo-Metohija.

I only ask that you get started already. In a sense you kind of have with the RPG rockets that were launched into a Macedonian gov't building in Skoplje. But try harder, it's time!

Look at all these pathetic, unemployed, albo trolls coming on here and multiple voting on their laughable posts...lol. You're a bunch of clowns, and I have only one message for you....Kosovo is Serbia, always has been, always will be. Enjoy your temporary status, when the yanks leave, you'll get what you deserve. :)
Cheers!!

Any outer source will confirm that slavic people came to the balkan very late, and that albanians, romanians and greeks are the autochtonous people. The BS that srebs read in their history textbooks is fabricated to brainwash them. Kosovo should have never be given to Yugoslavia in 1918, but that mistake the great powers did at the time which reflected the then balance of power was undone in 2008 by the US. The fact that more than half of the countries have recognized Kosovo speaks by itself as to which version of history the world dims true. The principle of state formation in Europe has been one people one State, and certainly Albanians and Serbs are different people, which is why Kosovo has nothing to do with Serbia.

I would like to comment this visit in Albanian media. I would greatly appreciate if somebody leave a link for Albanian website where I can comment in English. Something similar to B92 here.

'As a free-thinking human being, if Kosovo goes back to Serbia as you say...'

but it won't, so that fantasy of yours will remain, well a fantasy. Greetings from Prishtina, where it gets less Serbian every day

anislav you,unlike the majority Serbs appear reasonable.

But don't forget the Kosovar Municipalities in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Serbia will recogize Kosova's Independence.

Then we can all Move On.
(azir, 10 November 2014 20:39)

Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja are communities in southern Serbia with a Serbian majority so I dont really know what your talking about. And when you mention these, dont u forget about northern Kosovo.

As a Serbian I am, it hurts to say, but we really need to accept Kosovo as independent and move on ! We are neighbours and will always be! Nobody can change that! The time for territories is over. As the albanian PM said, we all have same enemies : poverty, bad economy, etc. Let's stop being foolish, and try to become europeans ! Sometimes it feels like we balkan people are the cancer of Europe! We still have such problems even in the 21st century! MOVE ON PEOPLE!

The difference between Kosovo and Palestine is that Kosovo is able to exercise its power in its sovereign territory, Palestine isn't. Palestine would love to be in Kosovo's position.

And yes, Kosovo isn't in the UN but Kosovo is joining UN organisations/ specialised agencies individually where it cannot be vetoed. Soon Kosovo will have all the perks of UN membership minus the right to be elected to sit on the security council. Whoopty do! It won't be long before Kosovo's flag is flying outside the UN General Assembly just like it currently flies outside several other UN organisations.
(Ian, UK, 11 November 2014 15:44)

LOL oh man Ian, you really have your head up your ass today. Are you paid by the Albanian lobbyists in the UK to spew this worthless propaganda or did you come up with these doozies on your own? Where in the world do you think Kosovo's flag will fly outside the UN when they can't even play football friendlies without causing a stir? And where can Kosovo exercise its power in its own sovereign territory? It can't even solve problems in Pristina, let alone the north.

You sampling some of Kosovo's drug supply to get these hallucinations?

For the life of me I don't even get the persistence of Serbs to not mention Kosova. All Serbs get riled up as soon as Albanian prime-minister point out the obvious: the fact that Kosova is independent. You can not escape from this bitter reality no matter how hard you try to hide it. Serbian government complain that Rama has ''provoked'' because of his statement, while they find convenient to drop claims on 'Kosovo je Serbia' in daily basis. Serbs wake up: the sooner you understand this plain fact, the better are your chances to go ahead. But if you keep deluding yourself that Kosova is Serbia (sic!), then are you ready to deal with fact that in a period of less than 20 years Albanians will be the majority of Serbia's population given that serbs are dying out faster than snow melts in spring.

As a Serbian I am, it hurts to say, but we really need to accept Kosovo as independent and move on ! We are neighbours and will always be! Nobody can change that! The time for territories is over. As the albanian PM said, we all have same enemies : poverty, bad economy, etc. Let's stop being foolish, and try to become europeans ! Sometimes it feels like we balkan people are the cancer of Europe! We still have such problems even in the 21st century! MOVE ON PEOPLE!
(Branislav, 10 November 2014 19:25)

If Kosovo-Metohija was independent, there would not be so much pressure on Serbia by Western governments to actively work on making this the case. Serbia is told that it must do what it can to implement the "kosovo constitution", but when in history has it been the responsibility of one independent country to implement the constitution of another?

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.

Yes, more albanians come to this site for the mere fact that they know Kosovo is not independent until Serbia recognizes it. Think, if they really felt otherwise, they wouldn't waste their dirty fingers typing comments here EVERYDAY. I don't go on any albo websites, and i promise you 99% of other serbs don't either!

Hey sugar, this is nothing, in 35-50 years we Albanians will be the majority in Serbia itself!
(rocky, 11 November 2014 02:50)

Rocky, if in 25 - 50 years Albanians are still overpopulating like crazy, there's no hope for you since economic development, women's rights, and medical hygiene all proved ineffective in bringing you into the First World community of European nations. Try thinking of better ways to increase your standards of living and decision-making abilities than breeding like rats.

Ian,

literally everything you said is so littered with errors that idk where to start. I'm glad that you are such a Albanian ultra nationalist that you feel you know what organ trafficker Hashish said back in 08.

I distinctly remember him saying 150 recognitions, not 100. But I have no doubt in my mind that you know better what this terrorist said because after all you openly support his criminality and the organs he's carved.

But whether it was 150 or 100, what I can bank on is he predicted these recognitions within the first year and that was obviously a fantasy. You see real countries do not spend over 5 years trying to buy 'recognitions' from corrupt dictatorships. Ask South Sudan, they declared independence in 2013 and within months were in the UN.

As far as EU and its missions go, you couldn't be more wrong. But what could one expect from a fringe EU extremist who openly supports the transfer of power from the national level to Brussels. You think the MEP's make the laws and not the unelected EU commission? May God help you.

You think that EULEX did not need Serbia to exist, so why was Serbia pressured to sign EULEX into law? You think they are there to help with the courts and justice and yet we can see daily articles coming out of Pristina about EULEX corruption.

The EU is trying to build a nation in Kosovo-Metohija as much as they are in the EU itself, and both seem to be failing miserably. Less KLA in your life Ian, more UKIP.

Thank God Russia's power is increasing by the day... I see they just signed another 400 billion deal with China, and that Romania & Poland just announced that their hopes of finding shale gas (as promised by the US) were destroyed after drilling for 3 years proved no such reserves exist. The future is looking very bright for Serbia. Its main ally growing stronger, and its enemies "allies" are growing weaker. Just look at the past 15 years of how much has changed... Imagine what the next 15 will look like. :)

Branislav you,unlike the majority Serbs appear reasonable.

But don't forget the Kosovar Municipalities in Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Serbia will recogize Kosova's Independence.

Then we can all Move On.

the heavenly people sure get provoked easily. To say Kosovo is Srbije, which does not sit well with over 90% of those who actually dwell in Kosovo is not provocation but to suggest that Serbia accepts reality, which is that Kosovo is gone and it isn't going back is apprently provocation. Speaking of stirring things up, I wonder whether Nikolic suggesting that Vukovar is Serbian counts as provocative or not. Such thin skin has led to tragedies before, maybe a collective visit to psychiatric wards would do the heavenly people a world of good

Is there more Albanians than Serbians that come to this site?? Maybe you should have some advertisements directed at the Albanians.

Aleksander Vucic Musliu, come to your fatherland, Albania

once again serbia and serbs are uncivilized and they don't belong in Europe, they promote the old violence and want to be the boss in the balkans, those times are gone,,,,,next time go buy a new flag of Albania and put it up, you still have the 1912 double-headed eagle that Ismail Qemali declared independence of Great Albania...Pathetic idiots

This was a totally forced meeting which none of the twoo prime ministers was happy about. I wouldn't say that the Serbian protocol was impecable as it should be, no matter which head of state visits. A prime minister is generally greeted by the prime minister at the airport and the flag of the visiting prime minister's country is displayed. Oh well...at least the Albanian national anthem was not jeered and there was no crowd chanting "UBI UBI SIPTARA", we should record that as a major achievement on the Serbian part.
As for the "provocation", both prime ministers were talking about the stability in the Balkans and what all its countries are doing to join EU. How could it be a provocation to talk about an independent republic which is recognized by the major countries of EU? If the Serbian state has decided to be blind and continue to be the "ostrich with its head in the sand", it is their problem. It shouldn't offend them that a prime minister mentions all of the Balkan countries aspiring to join EU. That's the fact, whether you like it or not, dear commentators.

It was very regretful that the speech of Prime Minister Rama was not translated from the state television live.
It will be imposible to build bridges between people if one part does not even accept to listen what the other part has to say; whatever the differeces are.

VELIKA ALBANIA!
(Rocky, 10 November 2014 17:33)

Greater/Ethnic/Natural/Mutant Albania belongs in the trash heap along with every other Greater Project that came before it. You're not only once again 25 years behind everyone else, you're too stupid to realize better countries tried this and failed.

But since Albanian nationalism is all talk and no action, it lives on only in the videos you watch and edit on You Tube.

Is there more Albanians than Serbians that come to this site?? Maybe you should have some advertisements directed at the Albanians.
(sugar, 10 November 2014 21:33)

Hey sugar, this is nothing, in 35-50 years we Albanians will be the majority in Serbia itself! The then Serbian minority will be requesting that we advertise for them on B92, or maybe we Albanians will change it a bit and call it B29? Again, 50 years tops!

Serbs are a bunch of fathead, thick sculled Neanderthals who are stuck in the middle ages. You are a bunch of savages who are stuck in crusade era. You are the least respected ‘race’ in Europe, if not the most hated. You aren't even liked by your own people, the Croats hate you, the Slovenians hate you, the Bosnians hate you, “Macedonians’ don’t like you, the Montenegrin don’t like you. What does it say about you when your own 'kind' can't stand you. You are a bunch of blinded brutally ignorant society as a whole. You are so pathetic and blinded you don’t realize you're being exploited by mother Rusia for their own benefit who will one day discard you like you are an old piece of clothing once they have no need for you. Look at what’s happening in Ukraine. Look at what’s happening in Greece. Another pathetic excuse of a nation whose backward mentality and total disregard for other people around them has gotten them in the hell they are in. You are a failed people a pathetic excuse of a nation that creates nothing but problems. Who have committed war crimes against humanity only 15 years ago. And yet have the 'sense' to express the things that go on in your twisted barbaric minds and try to justify what the whole world saw with their very own eyes! Now...! go chase some drones...like the cowards that you truly are

That's what I was getting at (trying to give a nice hint).... The Albanians are trying hard to convince everyone about something that is not. I cant read an article without the Albanians trying to be history revisionist.

You've got to hand it to Vucic.
He said he wouldn't allow anybody to humiliate us, he criticised Rama for talking about Kosovo (but ensured that there was nobody translating what Rama said) and he said he didn't know what Rama (as Pres of Albania) has to do with Kosovo.

Meanwhile tomorrow Rama will be in Presevo giving a speech about Kosovo, humiliating Serbia (in Vucic's words) and involving himself with an issue that in an official capacity he has nothing to do with.

Hmm Vucic won't allow anybody to humiliate us.. right? If this was anything more than feigned outrage Vucic could quite easily cancel Rama's visit, even on false security grounds.

That kind of bile reminds me of another speech concerning nobody being allowed to beat us - which was followed by the largest mass exodus of Serbs to Serbia since the second world war.

So who exactly is humiliating 'us' here?

Albanian speaking here,

I really wish that our two nations leave the past behind and look together towards the future! We shouldn't hate each-other just because we come from two different places! You don't choose your neighbour as you don't choose your brother or sister! Let us live together like brothers and sisters in this home called the Balkans. We have more to share than to divide! Our national hero, Skanderbeg was of Serbian mother, as your saint, Saint Angelina was from Albania, daughter of another great hero of our lands, Gjergj Arianiti! In the battle of Kosovo-Polje (Fushe-Kosove) we fought side-by-side against a common enemy and Prince Teodor II Muzaka brought his army to aid Prince Lazar! Today, 600 hundred years later we have common enemies: nationalism, poverty, corruption, criminality etc. Isn't this the moment to fight together against this common enemies than to fight each-other for some borders that will never change! Be it for Greater Albania or Greater Serbia! There are so many Serbians in Albania, who work here and they are very friendly and they enjoy life here!And I think there are many Albanians in Serbia too! The future is ours and let's build it together!

As for today's meeting I would say:

Danas, specijalno u naša lokalnu, največe hit: "Dva kuracu u Beogradu, nek Albanac i nek Srpsko"

Ok, my Serbian sucks, but those two suck even more!

Greetings to all antifascists, to Serbian "prijatelji" and Albanian "shokë"!

Did they stay side by side? Which of them was taller? Ours is very tall but yours looks tall too.

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 November 2014 20:01)

Nonsense Ari, Serbia isn't being pressured by anyone. If, however, Serbia insists on getting on her knees before the EU, how can that be considered pressure. Just as feeling demonized, no one asked Serbia to butcher children and women, it was done by her own free will. That type of behavior does not ingratiate ones neighbors.
Everyone can agree Serbia has managed to have done this to herself.

@ Branislav. you don't know crap

(Ari Gold, 11 November 2014 12:44)

Actually, Thaci predicted 100 recognitions. The current number is 108 with a few more coming very soon.

The difference between Kosovo and Palestine is that Kosovo is able to exercise its power in its sovereign territory, Palestine isn't. Palestine would love to be in Kosovo's position.

And yes, Kosovo isn't in the UN but Kosovo is joining UN organisations/ specialised agencies individually where it cannot be vetoed. Soon Kosovo will have all the perks of UN membership minus the right to be elected to sit on the security council. Whoopty do! It won't be long before Kosovo's flag is flying outside the UN General Assembly just like it currently flies outside several other UN organisations.

EULEX was established before Kosovo became independent, only Kosovo could approve an extension of its mandate, not Serbia. EULEX's role isn't "nation building", it is to assist Kosovo's Police and to help establish Kosovo's judicial system. After its mandate was extended in the summer, its role changed once again, this time to deal more specifically with war crimes. These corruption allegations have given Kosovo the perfect excuse not to extend its mandate in the future.

You haven't got a clue about the EU. EU laws are made by democratically elected MEPs in the European Parliament. Without the approval of the Parliament, they do not become law.

Could someone tell me why mr Rama's speech was not translated? Isn't that the point when a foreign primeminister visits your country? To hear what he has to say?

I see the meeting as a success except the risks that present the media manipulations of reality. ItIis very dangerous to present only part of reality. It misleads masses to wrong perceptions. I see this risks also in the partial reality presentation of rama speach even here in b92 which is liberal. Immagine what manipulation can a nationalistic media do.

Oh WoW, Vucic calls it a provocation because Rama mentioned Kosovo?
And I thought this was a business meeting.
Someone has to remind Vucic that Kosovo is the reason both nations don't see eye to eye and if you want to improve political relations you need to address that issue. Hiding from problems never worked for anyone.

.. and for God's sake, stop calling a provocation everything you don't feel comfortable with. Stop acting like menopausal women

Those who have read my previous comments will know that I am always amused by the overuse of the word "provocation" in the Balkans. Perhaps something gets lost in translation. Just ignore the man and don't allow yourself to be provoked, it really is very easy.

Thank you B92 for giving us this opportunity to communicate amongst us. We need more such sites.
Now let me start with the game. Serbia's hosting of the game in Albania is incomprehensible, and I am not just saying this, but every single person who has ever been to Albania will tell you this. In Albania hosting an event like this is Incomprehensible. I can tell you that even now, even after the game and the conference, still Serbian team and even fans can walk freely in the streets of Tirana and get a pint somewhere with the locals. This is by no means an exaggeration! What happened to the Albanian team in Serbia is alien to the Albanian public. I am talking about the fact that Albanians from landing and throughout their stay in Serbia were treated appallingly. No fans were allowed to follow the national team, the national anthem was booed, the chants "kill all Albanians so none lives", full of flag depicting war criminals and then suddenly the drone carrying the Albanian flag in a map that shows the areas inhabited by Albanians is the provocation after all this? I am by no means taking sides but that's taking the piss!! To add on top of that that hooligans enter the field attacking players and security staff joins in!

As for Rama's visit, again I can't see how Rama mentioning Kosovo is a provocation. Over 90% Albanians there and Albania has an historical and constitutional duty towards Albanians in the region! Please grow up! Just don't agree with it, simple.

Kosovo is Albania
Macedonia is Greece
Greeks and Albanians are native people in the Balkan peninsula.
Slavs are only visitors.
Greetings to our Serb brothers from Greece.

So who exactly is humiliating 'us' here?
(bganon, 10 November 2014 16:11)
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Well said.

So happy that the prime minister of my country (Albania) visited Serbia! Our countries need to communicate and move on! I wish all the best to all the Albanians and all the Serbs anywhere they are! May peace and prosperity come to the Balkans!

I feel sorry to see the poor reaction of Mr.Vucic toward another prime-minister. Remove of earpiece when Mr. Rama was speaking?! No Albanian Flag at the aeroport? This is your hospitality Mr. Vucic? This is lack of respect, deliberately? It is not ethical. It is not correct. It is not diplomacy. Shame on you.
(Ledi, 10 November 2014 14:53)

i agree, the standard of serbia, welcoming other nations without flag, very disrespectful and uncivilized people, seriously we live in 2014 soon 2015,,,,,the same old stuff does not fly no more. just pathetic....totally, there aren't any words to describe this historic moment that serbia could of made

"But one things for sure, Pristina is only slightly less "independent" than the UK. Given the fact that 75% of your laws are made by unelected foreign bureaucrats in Brussels, you are not much of a country at all."

oh dear, the stupidity of one named Ari Gold continues. Perhaps if Serbia was lucky enough to have their laws made in Brussels or rather, sign up to EU laws, they could have avoided numerous tragedies. This is what the British populace gains by having their laws in line with EU ones: access to a wide labour market, access to education in the continent on the same fees as those born there, unrestricted residency rights, unrestricted investment rights, unrestricted social security rights...meanwhile in Serbia, that proud country that bends to no one (rubbish, it bends very easily), enrolling to study abroad, high fees, restricted labour market, restricted investment opportunities...this Ari Gold is why you don't live in Serbia and never will be living there. and you'd be stupid to

If Montenegro which happens to share same religion and language with Serbia got its independence how does it logically make sense that Kosovo should not? Kosovo has absolutely nothing in common with Serbia. If Kosovo was Serbia why is that almost the entire population does not share the language, religion or any tradition. I would also understand if Serbia only had issues with Kosovo in region, but they essentially do not get along with most countries in Balkan including Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Albania. That itself shows who the problematic country in the region is.
Serbia needs to stop being such a disruptive force in Balkan. They need to pick whether they support Russia or European Union and stick to it.

Well, it seems Albania and Serbia have politicians...but no diplomats that's for sure.

Rama could have easily re-phrased his sermon as "...we understand that Serbia has a different point of view, but it is our belief that in the long term, recognition would be the best approach...etc., etc." without explictely telling the Serbian government what's best for Serbia. Serbia already knows that a bunch of countries have recognized Kosovo. No need to rub it in. It's called having class.

Vucic on the other hand, claiming that Albania has nothing to do with Kosovo, especially when considering what happened during the Kosovo war...well that definitely took some nerve too.

And of course, Vucic now promises to get "clever" in a future visit to Tirana. Isn't it cute when to watch two d**ks comparing d**ks... !

When the US, Germany, France, UK, etc diplomats who are the biggest proponents of Kosovo independence visit Serbia, it is never considered a provocation, why? It is because usually Serbia is expecting money at some point. Serbia remains focused on its pride and principles when there is no money involved.
The aforementioned countries are probably the major influence for 75% of the recognitions Kosovo has received and 100% the reason for the admission into international organizations it has achieved. Albania is probably not responsible for any of the major recognitions, but yet they are a provocation and the others are not. Can anyone name a difference other than the flow of money?
In the same statement that Vucic says it was an diplomatic insult, he states he will do the same when he visits Tirana. In other words he has shown the world he is but a child and NOT a world leader. Just as Jeremic showed the world he was not a world leader in his position at the UNGA, Vucic is showing the world that he too is not a leader that will bring the Balkans onto the world stage as anything other than a side show.

But Kosovo is independent county Mr. Vucic. The sooner you accept it the better for your own wellbeing :)

Speaking up your mind, boldly to your opponents, or friends whoever they are, is a a virtue of democratic people.
If you cannot accept the free opinion of someone else just because it is not the same as yours, is a medieval way of thinking. This was a great opportunity for both countries to show that they are ready to take that path in to the European family.
Albania has proved it and is continuously proving it, while Serbia cannot let go its past.

What matters is not this press conference but the fact that Serbia has appointed dejan pavicevic its formal ambassdor to Kosovo. Trains Serbs to be border guards and customs agents on serbias international style border with Kosovo. Serbia played a huge role in getting Kosovo FIFA friendlys and IOC membership. Vucic dacic and campaigned for Kosovo Serbs to vote on republic of Kosovo ballots and elected Serbs to swear oaths to the republic of kosovo. Krstic wouldn't but pantic did. Serbia's effort to make Kosovo a real country is unparalleled now. Probably because he was in Belgrade and not Brussels be has to be careful so as to not be charged with treason and respect serbias constitution that includes Kosovo.

"Yes, more albanians come to this site for the mere fact that they know Kosovo is not independent until Serbia recognizes it. Think, if they really felt otherwise, they wouldn't waste their dirty fingers typing comments here EVERYDAY. I don't go on any albo websites, and i promise you 99% of other serbs don't either!"

so by your logic, since you don't spend time on Albanian websites, it proves that Kosovo is independent? i hadn't realised that ones independence hinged on not making appearances on comment sections of news portals. you learn something new everyday. p.s. come to holy Kosmet and see how a part of Serbia it really is

"The reality is that Serbia's position is that Kosovo and Metohija is a part of Serbia, I'm glad that I can repeat it before Mr. Rama," said the Serbian prime minister, adding that he was sorry the Albanian prime minister took the opportunity to mention an independent Kosovo."

I like Mr. Vucic approach. I would also like to add that Santa is real.

If Montenegro which happens to share same religion and language with Serbia got its independence how does it logically make sense that Kosovo should not?
(Captain Kosova, 12 November 2014 23:24)


I think the official Serbian script is, "because churches and a bottle"

Let's say the truth, Serbian politicians made everything possible to cancel the visit and then to minimize it. So if not for anything else Rama's "provocation" was the best way to get intention.

Some serbs are willing a new war, and some albanians too. But the war is not an option. We have to live in peace even if we don't want to, and the only way to live in peace is to know each other. To know each other truly, face to face, not from the trench as we have done so far.

And when we will know which other we will discover that we have much more in common that we can imagine. We should not be afraid of the truth, we should not be afraid that if we lose our hate we will lose our dignity and living in peace doesn't mean that we will betray our own history and doesn't mean to jeopardize our future. On the contrary. It means to remember the past but to live in the present in able to build our future.

If we let our relatioship to be in the hands of Ivan the Terrible or some dumphead with a drone then we should be sorry for ourselves.

Dear Serbs!Relax. Finally we have leaders like Rama and Vucic, that base their politic career on Greater Europe and not speculative nationalists project of Greater Albania or Greater Serbia. The European Balkan without borders is the solution for all our citizens. Is the solution for all of them that want unification of Serbs or Albanians, but more is solution for the majority of quiet Serbs and Albanians that want a peaceful and prosperous Balkan for their family and their kids. Rama had the courage to say it loudly. I think doing so, he helped Vucic that is more complexed from internal nationalist pressure. EU is the medicine for all of us. Faster we move on on European path, better is for all of us.Peace,dignity and prosperity for all of us!

When has South Korea ever been pressured to recognize North Korea? Never. The immense pressure that exists from imperialist politicians gives us the confirmation we need that ONLY the Serbian government can give Kosovo-Metohija away. Not a 78 day bombing, not a demonization campaign in the media. Only Serbia can because Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 10 November 2014 20:01)

When has North Korea ever been pressured to recognise South Korea? Never. You do realise that both Koreas claim to be the sole legitimate government of all Korea?

And another thing, I'm not entirely convinced that Serbia is under pressure to recognise Kosovo, unless you consider the visit of Edi Rama to Belgrade as pressure to recognise Kosovo? Albania is hardly a political heavy weight. Serbia has been told on may occasions it doesn't have to recognise Kosovo to join the EU. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if Serbia doesn't recognise Kosovo because Serbia's recognition wouldn't change anything on the ground; reality would remain the same. Kosovo already has enough international recognition to join international organisations and international sport federations. There are only like 20 countries in the world which are opposed to Kosovo and Kosovo doesn't need them to exist.

So, if Rama didn't mention Kosovo would change...what? Albania has recognized Kosovo independence since 1991 and Serbia doesn't want to recognize Kosovo. This is clear to everybody, then why hide behind the finger?

And what's wrong with Vucic's logic? "What does Albania has to do with Kosovo?" and he considered this declaration a provocation and that Rama "acted as a bad guest" but he will do the same in Tirana saying "Kosovo is Serbia"? What's this, some kid game?

If Vucic considered it a provocation what should Rama say about the missing Albanian flag in Serbian airport?

And why were cancelled the meetings with President Nikolic, President of National Assembly of Serbia? Because they knew about the provocation before the visit just how they knew about the flag provocation before the match?

@ daniel. how did Serbia attack Slovenia. hey your facts straight

The article says: Vucic added that he will "talk about Kosovo being Serbian when he travels to Tirana for a return visit."
Rama's reply was even nicer, and it's a shame the Serbian media (including B92) censors Rama's speech. Rama told him: you could come and feel free to express your view in Tirana and we won't feel "provoked", but only disappointed.

Another point missing here is when an Albanian journalist mentioned Vucic's accusations towards Rama's brother on the drone and asked Vucic if that was ever settled. Vucic totally avoided the question because he knew his accusations were fabricated lies.

It is a shame that Rama's speech was censored in Serbia. Rama is a world-class politician and likely the most capable leader in the Balkans today. Through his values, intelligence and class, he showed civility and European values, while the entire Serbian political caste only showed their lack of morale and their inferiority to Rama. They came out as liars and manipulators, as spineless “leaders” who are too afraid to face the truth.

There is no provocation here. A provocation would be if Rama said “Kosovo is Albania”. The fact that Kosovo is independent and recognized by over 100 countries is a truth, not a provocation. How could anyone expect Rama to not talk about Kosovo? That would be like ignoring the 1000kg elephant in the living room. Serbian leaders should mature into adults and talk about these issues as leaders instead of acting like sensitive cry-babies.