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NATO "could stage big maneuvers on Russian border"

NATO could conduct maneuvers with tens of thousands of soldiers in the border regions of Russia and Ukraine, the German magazine Spiegel reports.

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Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(rote, 10 November 2014 09:43
Doubt you really know what you are talking about, nor others that boast about the super powers of the US and NATO. But I am 100% sure that should we have a nuclear war where Russia first launches against the US or the US first launches against Russia, neither will be a super power of the future.

sj

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
Those are the same experts that said Afghanistan and Iraq were all pushovers. Then kicking out the Muslim brotherhood out of power in Egypt would return things to the old ways and then regime change in Libya would bring a „democratic“ government friendly to the west LOL or maybe the western military advisors who suggested arming the ‘opposition’ in Syria.
Here is some news for you the west does not have the equipment that you talk about. It’s BS.

sj

pre 9 godina

Go for it lads, manouver away. NATO is fighting wars on numerous fronts and now it wants to take on Russia, please let me see you do that. But here is the funny side, there is great concern in Washington that Russia and China may join forces against the west and that is why Obama et al want to talk to Putin at the G20 in Brisbane to try and make him see the error of his ways.
But here is the even funnier part, Russia and China have already joined forces LOL. I hope Obama has put in for another loan from Asia so he can fight evil LOL.
Ahhh the United States of Idiots.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 10 November 2014 09:50
One of the things that has truly amazed me is those that post on here are probably about 95% from NATO or NATO aligned countries, yet they have dreams of Russia putting NATO in its place and using its military strength to pulverize the west and nuke them to their death. So actually their fondest dream is for Russia to destroy THEIR homes, THEIR children, THEIR parents and relatives.

Peter Sudyka

pre 9 godina

It is not "provocative actions" against anybody. As long as NATO keeps their military maneuvers within their own borders, it can do them wherever they feel like it. Russia also has maneuvers close to the borders of other countries, and rightfully so, as long as they stay within their borders. It was like this during the Cold War and it didn't lead to any armed conflict.

It is idiotic conclusions like this further the decline of relations between Russia and NATO, when I think everyone with half a brain knows that neither side will go to war with the other. They didn't during the Cold War and they won't now. All this talk of "Russia has no chance against NATO" or "NATO has no chance against Russia" whatever BS is just silly: war between Russia and NATO = WWIII and a return to the dark ages. Nobody wants that.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

Foolishness and Idiocy !,

If the West is not Prepered for a Total and all out War against Russia,
they should dont provoke and chalange Her.

Russia will not back down and will therefore win this conflict.

The West will regret their Follishness and Idiocy !.

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)

What experts are you talking about ? Last decade Russia has developed 3 types of missiles that are totally invincible for any type of counter missiles existing. Last month Pentagon several times excused insisting that they had not meant a threat to Russia and they acknowledged that Russia obtains equal nuclear forces. What they failed to say was that any of the 3 already existing Borrey type of submarines can destroy the USA without leaving the Russian waters from beneath the ice in the Northern seas. Each of them like Yury Dolgoruky carry from 16 to 24 Bulava rockets with 10 self-programmed nukes inside. Total 160-240 nukes fired in 5 minutes. Missiles maneuver and move at the speed of 5G … before 2018 Russia will have 9 such submarines. Besides outside the USA Russia is the only state to have the all 3 components (under the land + marine + land mobile) of the nuclear arms. Our missiles are already modernized while the USA is only going to do the job. Same with the anti-missiles as the US was too sure of their superiority to spend money for this. Now it’s evident that the US again overestimated their own capacity. So don’t worry about the Russian shield - БРОНЯ КРЕПКА И ТАНКИ НАШИ БЫСТРЫ ...

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
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Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Moderate Serb, 8 November 2014 07:24)
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Why do you have two identities here?

ida

pre 9 godina

"Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia."

Russia's "Satan" missiles can destroy an entire continent. Russia can launch from submarines too. Russia also has huge underground cities.
Comparing Russia to Serbia is ridiculous. Serbia didn't even have Russian S-300's, from what I understand.
And Serbia did shoot down and damage more NATO planes than NATO officially mentioned. At the beginning of the war already was shot down the stealth fighter.
NATO bombed Serbian TV stations because they were showing downed NATO aircraft and cruise missiles.

Dwight

pre 9 godina

Russia cannot attack a NATO country otherwise it will be destroyed, however what it has done in Ukraine is very successful - attacking the country from within by supporting separatist groups- and yes it is a successful American tactic. Should something go wrong with the plan, Russia can deny being involved. If the plan is successful, Russia has a puppet government it can control.
Latvia, Estonia have large Russian populations and if there was a fake "Russian Spring" in these countries, NATO can do nothing?
This could also happen to Kazakhstan who is not a member of NATO.
By the time NATO makes a decision, Russia will already have taken half of the country, hence the need for the Rapid Reaction force to immediately have soldiers on the ground.
Russia's current strategy of provoking racial tensions in these countries helps no-one.
It will cost the citizens of Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe dearly no matter their ethnic history.
I think China are the biggest winners in this, maybe the USA too, also as with every war, the arms dealers and coffin-makers

icj1

pre 9 godina

The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

I agree with you here. There is nothing US (Nato) need to do. Russia is succefully doing it all by iteself. Seeing Russia's action, most Ukrainians now want nothing to do with Russia. So, what will Russia do to "keep Ukraine" ? Beat 30+ million of Ukrainians to submission and send tanks to Kiev?! By all means go ahead with such adventures if you so wish :)

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

NATO can't stand up to Russia! Today Russia's ability to undertake significant military action with little warning. It would take NATO six months to put together a response to any Russian action in the Baltics. Let me assure you NATO, you won't even show up in time for the Russians victory celebration!!! Is Germany an innocent country marred by the hatred of Adolf Hitler and his followers or is it a nation repeatedly guilty of starting wars? History can be a powerful teacher, but only if we learn the right lessons. Today Russian and Chinese Cooperation, this is a major change, sudden intensification in cooperation between Russia and China. Also India on May 12, 2014 following 5 weeks of voting and 800 million ballots cast, the largest election in the history of mankind. The result, landslide victory for Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi. The massive win gave Modi absolute majority in the house of parliament with powers his predecessors could only have dreamed of. Modi acts fast and is already using his new powers to steer India away from USA and nearer to Russia and China. Russia with unprecedented cooperation among Asian powerhouses is creating a new balance of power in the global system. Czar Vlade's historic rebuilding of the Great Russian Empire, a gigantic threat to the Western international Community and above all the Roman Catholic Empire. Russia, China and India always respectfull and never hostile to Serbia. A new era for Serbia and it's people, Liberty and Peace!

friendly fireman

pre 9 godina

So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.
(rote, 7 November 2014 19:28)

Dude, look at you in your wannabe oligarch business pants. http://britpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/RussianDating16.jpg You can pump yourself up all you like, but don't cut one loose near flames, as those pants are highly flammable.

Marko K.

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
[link]
[link]
(Preacher, 7 November 2014 21:33)

Billy,
Nice try, but you're forgetting that your peculiar rhetoric and writing style couldn't even fool a 5 year old child.
All you weak kneed Putin cheerleaders know, very well, that Russia has painted itself into a corner and is panicking.The Russian ruble is collapsing with no hope of stopping its free fall. The price of a barrel of oil, which is Russia's only commodity, has dropped to the point where it costs Russia more to pump oil than it can sell it for.
There are going to be plenty of hungry Russians this winter, thanks to Putin.

Preacher

pre 9 godina

Yo Hans, make sure you provide your rapid force with plenty of camouflaged man diapers, as Putin ain't
in a playing mood in these here tense times. Unless yall are ready to go all out till Kingdom comes--stay the **
*k far away from that border. If yall choose to do the messaround close to Russia's border, yall might could regret that provocative move, so temper your out-of-control-egos, cuz if you don't, God only knows what could happen. Work towards peace yall and let us all start healing, as all of these innocent folks that are dying senselessly each day around the world are hurting us all, physically and mentally, including those that are not born yet.
Please chaw on this for a moment: There is no way of escaping this fact: If you hurt somebody, you will be hurt back equally in some form or another.

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
https://celluloidpopculturejunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/preacher-comic-art1.jpg
https://celluloidpopculturejunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/preacher-comic.jpg

rote

pre 9 godina

"We will form a rapid reaction force of about 5,000 to 7,000 people …”

Those are peanuts even for the army of Novorossia to say nothing of mainland Russia. The whole world was amused by the operation in Afghanistan where NATO and their lackeys guarded only their toilets. The only visible result if that the narco-traffic of 999 heroin increased 40 times. What the Europeans do not like to talk about is that every Afghan is telling them that the Russians had been real warriors who never declined from face to face combats. So will they bring tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands the result will be the same. Only the Russian army gives 1 200 000 troops that are almost permanently on the drills. Total of the military forces we have exceeds 5 000 000 to say nothing of the arms we have. Who is that idiot to take the risk teasing Russia ? What is some captain fires wrong and hurts a Russian r a Byelorussian ? Will NATO have enough Pumpers and Tampaxes to conseal the level their military spirit ? How soon NATO will find itself in the dog position after that ? Land operations has always been the nightmare of theirs. So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.

ivan

pre 9 godina

NATO "could stage big maneuvers on Russian border"

Quite frankly, that is about all that they will do, stage maneuvers. The article goes on to say that Nato should be ready by the end of 2015. Where do you think Russia will be by then? Sitting idol, just waiting for Nato to drop by and sit a spell? The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.

EU Dude

pre 9 godina

That would be a really stupid thing to do, so I guess NATO will do it. Keep digging when you don't know what else to do. God help us all.

ivan

pre 9 godina

NATO "could stage big maneuvers on Russian border"

Quite frankly, that is about all that they will do, stage maneuvers. The article goes on to say that Nato should be ready by the end of 2015. Where do you think Russia will be by then? Sitting idol, just waiting for Nato to drop by and sit a spell? The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.

EU Dude

pre 9 godina

That would be a really stupid thing to do, so I guess NATO will do it. Keep digging when you don't know what else to do. God help us all.

rote

pre 9 godina

"We will form a rapid reaction force of about 5,000 to 7,000 people …”

Those are peanuts even for the army of Novorossia to say nothing of mainland Russia. The whole world was amused by the operation in Afghanistan where NATO and their lackeys guarded only their toilets. The only visible result if that the narco-traffic of 999 heroin increased 40 times. What the Europeans do not like to talk about is that every Afghan is telling them that the Russians had been real warriors who never declined from face to face combats. So will they bring tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands the result will be the same. Only the Russian army gives 1 200 000 troops that are almost permanently on the drills. Total of the military forces we have exceeds 5 000 000 to say nothing of the arms we have. Who is that idiot to take the risk teasing Russia ? What is some captain fires wrong and hurts a Russian r a Byelorussian ? Will NATO have enough Pumpers and Tampaxes to conseal the level their military spirit ? How soon NATO will find itself in the dog position after that ? Land operations has always been the nightmare of theirs. So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.

Preacher

pre 9 godina

Yo Hans, make sure you provide your rapid force with plenty of camouflaged man diapers, as Putin ain't
in a playing mood in these here tense times. Unless yall are ready to go all out till Kingdom comes--stay the **
*k far away from that border. If yall choose to do the messaround close to Russia's border, yall might could regret that provocative move, so temper your out-of-control-egos, cuz if you don't, God only knows what could happen. Work towards peace yall and let us all start healing, as all of these innocent folks that are dying senselessly each day around the world are hurting us all, physically and mentally, including those that are not born yet.
Please chaw on this for a moment: There is no way of escaping this fact: If you hurt somebody, you will be hurt back equally in some form or another.

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
https://celluloidpopculturejunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/preacher-comic-art1.jpg
https://celluloidpopculturejunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/preacher-comic.jpg

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
[link]
[link]
(Preacher, 7 November 2014 21:33)

Billy,
Nice try, but you're forgetting that your peculiar rhetoric and writing style couldn't even fool a 5 year old child.
All you weak kneed Putin cheerleaders know, very well, that Russia has painted itself into a corner and is panicking.The Russian ruble is collapsing with no hope of stopping its free fall. The price of a barrel of oil, which is Russia's only commodity, has dropped to the point where it costs Russia more to pump oil than it can sell it for.
There are going to be plenty of hungry Russians this winter, thanks to Putin.

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

Marko K.

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

sj

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
Those are the same experts that said Afghanistan and Iraq were all pushovers. Then kicking out the Muslim brotherhood out of power in Egypt would return things to the old ways and then regime change in Libya would bring a „democratic“ government friendly to the west LOL or maybe the western military advisors who suggested arming the ‘opposition’ in Syria.
Here is some news for you the west does not have the equipment that you talk about. It’s BS.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
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Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Moderate Serb, 8 November 2014 07:24)
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Why do you have two identities here?

sj

pre 9 godina

Go for it lads, manouver away. NATO is fighting wars on numerous fronts and now it wants to take on Russia, please let me see you do that. But here is the funny side, there is great concern in Washington that Russia and China may join forces against the west and that is why Obama et al want to talk to Putin at the G20 in Brisbane to try and make him see the error of his ways.
But here is the even funnier part, Russia and China have already joined forces LOL. I hope Obama has put in for another loan from Asia so he can fight evil LOL.
Ahhh the United States of Idiots.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

Foolishness and Idiocy !,

If the West is not Prepered for a Total and all out War against Russia,
they should dont provoke and chalange Her.

Russia will not back down and will therefore win this conflict.

The West will regret their Follishness and Idiocy !.

Arn.Sweden.

Peter Sudyka

pre 9 godina

It is not "provocative actions" against anybody. As long as NATO keeps their military maneuvers within their own borders, it can do them wherever they feel like it. Russia also has maneuvers close to the borders of other countries, and rightfully so, as long as they stay within their borders. It was like this during the Cold War and it didn't lead to any armed conflict.

It is idiotic conclusions like this further the decline of relations between Russia and NATO, when I think everyone with half a brain knows that neither side will go to war with the other. They didn't during the Cold War and they won't now. All this talk of "Russia has no chance against NATO" or "NATO has no chance against Russia" whatever BS is just silly: war between Russia and NATO = WWIII and a return to the dark ages. Nobody wants that.

ida

pre 9 godina

"Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia."

Russia's "Satan" missiles can destroy an entire continent. Russia can launch from submarines too. Russia also has huge underground cities.
Comparing Russia to Serbia is ridiculous. Serbia didn't even have Russian S-300's, from what I understand.
And Serbia did shoot down and damage more NATO planes than NATO officially mentioned. At the beginning of the war already was shot down the stealth fighter.
NATO bombed Serbian TV stations because they were showing downed NATO aircraft and cruise missiles.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 10 November 2014 09:50
One of the things that has truly amazed me is those that post on here are probably about 95% from NATO or NATO aligned countries, yet they have dreams of Russia putting NATO in its place and using its military strength to pulverize the west and nuke them to their death. So actually their fondest dream is for Russia to destroy THEIR homes, THEIR children, THEIR parents and relatives.

friendly fireman

pre 9 godina

So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.
(rote, 7 November 2014 19:28)

Dude, look at you in your wannabe oligarch business pants. http://britpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/RussianDating16.jpg You can pump yourself up all you like, but don't cut one loose near flames, as those pants are highly flammable.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

NATO can't stand up to Russia! Today Russia's ability to undertake significant military action with little warning. It would take NATO six months to put together a response to any Russian action in the Baltics. Let me assure you NATO, you won't even show up in time for the Russians victory celebration!!! Is Germany an innocent country marred by the hatred of Adolf Hitler and his followers or is it a nation repeatedly guilty of starting wars? History can be a powerful teacher, but only if we learn the right lessons. Today Russian and Chinese Cooperation, this is a major change, sudden intensification in cooperation between Russia and China. Also India on May 12, 2014 following 5 weeks of voting and 800 million ballots cast, the largest election in the history of mankind. The result, landslide victory for Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi. The massive win gave Modi absolute majority in the house of parliament with powers his predecessors could only have dreamed of. Modi acts fast and is already using his new powers to steer India away from USA and nearer to Russia and China. Russia with unprecedented cooperation among Asian powerhouses is creating a new balance of power in the global system. Czar Vlade's historic rebuilding of the Great Russian Empire, a gigantic threat to the Western international Community and above all the Roman Catholic Empire. Russia, China and India always respectfull and never hostile to Serbia. A new era for Serbia and it's people, Liberty and Peace!

rote

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)

What experts are you talking about ? Last decade Russia has developed 3 types of missiles that are totally invincible for any type of counter missiles existing. Last month Pentagon several times excused insisting that they had not meant a threat to Russia and they acknowledged that Russia obtains equal nuclear forces. What they failed to say was that any of the 3 already existing Borrey type of submarines can destroy the USA without leaving the Russian waters from beneath the ice in the Northern seas. Each of them like Yury Dolgoruky carry from 16 to 24 Bulava rockets with 10 self-programmed nukes inside. Total 160-240 nukes fired in 5 minutes. Missiles maneuver and move at the speed of 5G … before 2018 Russia will have 9 such submarines. Besides outside the USA Russia is the only state to have the all 3 components (under the land + marine + land mobile) of the nuclear arms. Our missiles are already modernized while the USA is only going to do the job. Same with the anti-missiles as the US was too sure of their superiority to spend money for this. Now it’s evident that the US again overestimated their own capacity. So don’t worry about the Russian shield - БРОНЯ КРЕПКА И ТАНКИ НАШИ БЫСТРЫ ...

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(rote, 10 November 2014 09:43
Doubt you really know what you are talking about, nor others that boast about the super powers of the US and NATO. But I am 100% sure that should we have a nuclear war where Russia first launches against the US or the US first launches against Russia, neither will be a super power of the future.

icj1

pre 9 godina

The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

I agree with you here. There is nothing US (Nato) need to do. Russia is succefully doing it all by iteself. Seeing Russia's action, most Ukrainians now want nothing to do with Russia. So, what will Russia do to "keep Ukraine" ? Beat 30+ million of Ukrainians to submission and send tanks to Kiev?! By all means go ahead with such adventures if you so wish :)

Dwight

pre 9 godina

Russia cannot attack a NATO country otherwise it will be destroyed, however what it has done in Ukraine is very successful - attacking the country from within by supporting separatist groups- and yes it is a successful American tactic. Should something go wrong with the plan, Russia can deny being involved. If the plan is successful, Russia has a puppet government it can control.
Latvia, Estonia have large Russian populations and if there was a fake "Russian Spring" in these countries, NATO can do nothing?
This could also happen to Kazakhstan who is not a member of NATO.
By the time NATO makes a decision, Russia will already have taken half of the country, hence the need for the Rapid Reaction force to immediately have soldiers on the ground.
Russia's current strategy of provoking racial tensions in these countries helps no-one.
It will cost the citizens of Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe dearly no matter their ethnic history.
I think China are the biggest winners in this, maybe the USA too, also as with every war, the arms dealers and coffin-makers

rote

pre 9 godina

"We will form a rapid reaction force of about 5,000 to 7,000 people …”

Those are peanuts even for the army of Novorossia to say nothing of mainland Russia. The whole world was amused by the operation in Afghanistan where NATO and their lackeys guarded only their toilets. The only visible result if that the narco-traffic of 999 heroin increased 40 times. What the Europeans do not like to talk about is that every Afghan is telling them that the Russians had been real warriors who never declined from face to face combats. So will they bring tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands the result will be the same. Only the Russian army gives 1 200 000 troops that are almost permanently on the drills. Total of the military forces we have exceeds 5 000 000 to say nothing of the arms we have. Who is that idiot to take the risk teasing Russia ? What is some captain fires wrong and hurts a Russian r a Byelorussian ? Will NATO have enough Pumpers and Tampaxes to conseal the level their military spirit ? How soon NATO will find itself in the dog position after that ? Land operations has always been the nightmare of theirs. So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.

Marko K.

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

ivan

pre 9 godina

NATO "could stage big maneuvers on Russian border"

Quite frankly, that is about all that they will do, stage maneuvers. The article goes on to say that Nato should be ready by the end of 2015. Where do you think Russia will be by then? Sitting idol, just waiting for Nato to drop by and sit a spell? The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
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(Preacher, 7 November 2014 21:33)

Billy,
Nice try, but you're forgetting that your peculiar rhetoric and writing style couldn't even fool a 5 year old child.
All you weak kneed Putin cheerleaders know, very well, that Russia has painted itself into a corner and is panicking.The Russian ruble is collapsing with no hope of stopping its free fall. The price of a barrel of oil, which is Russia's only commodity, has dropped to the point where it costs Russia more to pump oil than it can sell it for.
There are going to be plenty of hungry Russians this winter, thanks to Putin.

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

The US (Nato) could huff and puff all they want, but they will never blow the house down. It's as simple as that. The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do. They can flex until the cows come home, but that will be the extent of it.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.

Preacher

pre 9 godina

Yo Hans, make sure you provide your rapid force with plenty of camouflaged man diapers, as Putin ain't
in a playing mood in these here tense times. Unless yall are ready to go all out till Kingdom comes--stay the **
*k far away from that border. If yall choose to do the messaround close to Russia's border, yall might could regret that provocative move, so temper your out-of-control-egos, cuz if you don't, God only knows what could happen. Work towards peace yall and let us all start healing, as all of these innocent folks that are dying senselessly each day around the world are hurting us all, physically and mentally, including those that are not born yet.
Please chaw on this for a moment: There is no way of escaping this fact: If you hurt somebody, you will be hurt back equally in some form or another.

I'm a possessed preacher from the small Texas town of Annville, substituting for BW. Like BW, I always say: Don't
do what I do, but listen to the Word and the message. This way yall can never call me or him a hypocrite.
Jesse Custer
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EU Dude

pre 9 godina

That would be a really stupid thing to do, so I guess NATO will do it. Keep digging when you don't know what else to do. God help us all.

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

ned k

pre 9 godina

Nato forces are not capable of confranting bunch of muslim fanatics in arab part of world and they are trying to flex muscles of bony rabit to confront mighty bear, good luck!

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(Peter Sudyka, 10 November 2014 09:50
One of the things that has truly amazed me is those that post on here are probably about 95% from NATO or NATO aligned countries, yet they have dreams of Russia putting NATO in its place and using its military strength to pulverize the west and nuke them to their death. So actually their fondest dream is for Russia to destroy THEIR homes, THEIR children, THEIR parents and relatives.

sj

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
Those are the same experts that said Afghanistan and Iraq were all pushovers. Then kicking out the Muslim brotherhood out of power in Egypt would return things to the old ways and then regime change in Libya would bring a „democratic“ government friendly to the west LOL or maybe the western military advisors who suggested arming the ‘opposition’ in Syria.
Here is some news for you the west does not have the equipment that you talk about. It’s BS.

friendly fireman

pre 9 godina

So for scaring asses with fingers they must use their own asses. European institutions more and more remind me of the marasmatic Soviet Politburo.
(rote, 7 November 2014 19:28)

Dude, look at you in your wannabe oligarch business pants. http://britpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/RussianDating16.jpg You can pump yourself up all you like, but don't cut one loose near flames, as those pants are highly flammable.

icj1

pre 9 godina

The Ukraine is Russia's to keep and there is nothing the US (Nato) can/are able to, or have the courage to do.
(ivan, 7 November 2014 17:27)

I agree with you here. There is nothing US (Nato) need to do. Russia is succefully doing it all by iteself. Seeing Russia's action, most Ukrainians now want nothing to do with Russia. So, what will Russia do to "keep Ukraine" ? Beat 30+ million of Ukrainians to submission and send tanks to Kiev?! By all means go ahead with such adventures if you so wish :)

Dwight

pre 9 godina

Russia cannot attack a NATO country otherwise it will be destroyed, however what it has done in Ukraine is very successful - attacking the country from within by supporting separatist groups- and yes it is a successful American tactic. Should something go wrong with the plan, Russia can deny being involved. If the plan is successful, Russia has a puppet government it can control.
Latvia, Estonia have large Russian populations and if there was a fake "Russian Spring" in these countries, NATO can do nothing?
This could also happen to Kazakhstan who is not a member of NATO.
By the time NATO makes a decision, Russia will already have taken half of the country, hence the need for the Rapid Reaction force to immediately have soldiers on the ground.
Russia's current strategy of provoking racial tensions in these countries helps no-one.
It will cost the citizens of Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe dearly no matter their ethnic history.
I think China are the biggest winners in this, maybe the USA too, also as with every war, the arms dealers and coffin-makers

rote

pre 9 godina

Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all. (Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)

What experts are you talking about ? Last decade Russia has developed 3 types of missiles that are totally invincible for any type of counter missiles existing. Last month Pentagon several times excused insisting that they had not meant a threat to Russia and they acknowledged that Russia obtains equal nuclear forces. What they failed to say was that any of the 3 already existing Borrey type of submarines can destroy the USA without leaving the Russian waters from beneath the ice in the Northern seas. Each of them like Yury Dolgoruky carry from 16 to 24 Bulava rockets with 10 self-programmed nukes inside. Total 160-240 nukes fired in 5 minutes. Missiles maneuver and move at the speed of 5G … before 2018 Russia will have 9 such submarines. Besides outside the USA Russia is the only state to have the all 3 components (under the land + marine + land mobile) of the nuclear arms. Our missiles are already modernized while the USA is only going to do the job. Same with the anti-missiles as the US was too sure of their superiority to spend money for this. Now it’s evident that the US again overestimated their own capacity. So don’t worry about the Russian shield - БРОНЯ КРЕПКА И ТАНКИ НАШИ БЫСТРЫ ...

sj

pre 9 godina

Go for it lads, manouver away. NATO is fighting wars on numerous fronts and now it wants to take on Russia, please let me see you do that. But here is the funny side, there is great concern in Washington that Russia and China may join forces against the west and that is why Obama et al want to talk to Putin at the G20 in Brisbane to try and make him see the error of his ways.
But here is the even funnier part, Russia and China have already joined forces LOL. I hope Obama has put in for another loan from Asia so he can fight evil LOL.
Ahhh the United States of Idiots.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

NATO can't stand up to Russia! Today Russia's ability to undertake significant military action with little warning. It would take NATO six months to put together a response to any Russian action in the Baltics. Let me assure you NATO, you won't even show up in time for the Russians victory celebration!!! Is Germany an innocent country marred by the hatred of Adolf Hitler and his followers or is it a nation repeatedly guilty of starting wars? History can be a powerful teacher, but only if we learn the right lessons. Today Russian and Chinese Cooperation, this is a major change, sudden intensification in cooperation between Russia and China. Also India on May 12, 2014 following 5 weeks of voting and 800 million ballots cast, the largest election in the history of mankind. The result, landslide victory for Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi. The massive win gave Modi absolute majority in the house of parliament with powers his predecessors could only have dreamed of. Modi acts fast and is already using his new powers to steer India away from USA and nearer to Russia and China. Russia with unprecedented cooperation among Asian powerhouses is creating a new balance of power in the global system. Czar Vlade's historic rebuilding of the Great Russian Empire, a gigantic threat to the Western international Community and above all the Roman Catholic Empire. Russia, China and India always respectfull and never hostile to Serbia. A new era for Serbia and it's people, Liberty and Peace!

ida

pre 9 godina

"Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia."

Russia's "Satan" missiles can destroy an entire continent. Russia can launch from submarines too. Russia also has huge underground cities.
Comparing Russia to Serbia is ridiculous. Serbia didn't even have Russian S-300's, from what I understand.
And Serbia did shoot down and damage more NATO planes than NATO officially mentioned. At the beginning of the war already was shot down the stealth fighter.
NATO bombed Serbian TV stations because they were showing downed NATO aircraft and cruise missiles.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Marko K., 8 November 2014 19:57)
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Speaking from personal experience, I'd be careful what you wish for. Look at what NATO did to Serbia.
That was 15 years ago, just imagine how much U.S. technology has advanced since then. Military experts say it would only take 7 super bombers to annihilate Russia. It would not require any NATO ground troops at all.
(Moderate Serb, 8 November 2014 07:24)
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Why do you have two identities here?

Arn.Sweden.

pre 9 godina

Foolishness and Idiocy !,

If the West is not Prepered for a Total and all out War against Russia,
they should dont provoke and chalange Her.

Russia will not back down and will therefore win this conflict.

The West will regret their Follishness and Idiocy !.

Arn.Sweden.

Peter Sudyka

pre 9 godina

It is not "provocative actions" against anybody. As long as NATO keeps their military maneuvers within their own borders, it can do them wherever they feel like it. Russia also has maneuvers close to the borders of other countries, and rightfully so, as long as they stay within their borders. It was like this during the Cold War and it didn't lead to any armed conflict.

It is idiotic conclusions like this further the decline of relations between Russia and NATO, when I think everyone with half a brain knows that neither side will go to war with the other. They didn't during the Cold War and they won't now. All this talk of "Russia has no chance against NATO" or "NATO has no chance against Russia" whatever BS is just silly: war between Russia and NATO = WWIII and a return to the dark ages. Nobody wants that.

Go Figure

pre 9 godina

(rote, 10 November 2014 09:43
Doubt you really know what you are talking about, nor others that boast about the super powers of the US and NATO. But I am 100% sure that should we have a nuclear war where Russia first launches against the US or the US first launches against Russia, neither will be a super power of the future.