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President to snub WW1 event because of Kosovo

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić on Monday announced that he would not be taking part in a commemorative gathering in Belgium on Tuesday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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icj1

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein
(sj, 30 October 2014 09:40)

Haha, no problem mate since, in any case, you quoted the wrong post - I did not answer any question. But I'm ready to help you find the actual post with an "answer to a question no one ever asked" so that your valuable time in writing the post above is not wasted.

Anyway, I'm honored I got a chance to be quoted by the CE of B92 forums sj in person :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein

icj1

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?
(Daniel, 29 October 2014 19:41)

Well, let's say that albanians breed like rabbits... And what's the problem with that? It's certainly not a crime :)

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?

Ethnic
group census 1948 census 1953 census 1961 census 1971 census 1981 census 1991 census 2011
Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number %
Albanians 498,244 68.5 524,559 64.9 646,605 67.1 916,168 73.7 1,226,736 77.4 1,596,072 81.6 1,616,869 92.9
Serbs 171,911 23.6 189,869 23.5 227,016 23.5 228,264 18.4 209,498 13.2 194,190 9.9 25,532 1.5
Muslims 9,679 1.3 6,241 0.8 8,026 0.8 26,357 2.1 58,562 3.7 66,189 3.4
Bosniaks 27,533 1.6
Gorani 10,265 0.6
Montenegrins 28,050 3.9 31,343 3.9 37,588 3.9 31,555 2.5 27,028 1.7 20,365 1.1
Croats 5,290 0.7 6,201 0.8 7,251 0.8 8,264 0.7 8,718 0.6 8,062 0.4
Yugoslavs 5,206 0.5 920 0.1 2,676 0.2 3,457 0.2
Romani 11,230 1.5 11,904 1.5 3,202 0.3 14.593 1.2 34,126 2.2 45,760 2.3 8,824 0,5
Ashkali 15,436 0.9
Egyptians 11,524 0.6
Turks 1,315 0.2 34,583 4.3 25,764 2.7 12,244 1.0 12,513 0.8 10,445 0.5 18,738 1.1
Macedonians 526 0.1 972 0.1 1,142 0.1 1,048 0.1 1,056 0.1
Others or unspecified 1,577 0.2 2,469 0.3 2,188 0.2 4,280 0.3 3,454 0.2 11,656 0.6 3,264 0.6
Total 727,820 808,141 963,988 1,243,693 1,584,441 1,956,196 1,739,825

icj1

pre 9 godina

If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.
(sj, 29 October 2014 05:45)

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.

good luck

pre 9 godina

(110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American, 29 October 2014 00:08
Its nice that they allow you computer access in whatever institution you reside, probably some type of therapy design. Good luck I am 110% sure you need a while longer before release though.

rick

pre 9 godina

(Moderate albanian, 29 October 2014 02:52)

If you are Albanian then I am THE Serbian monk .Serbian chetnik crimes are well documented and tops all crimes ever committed since the end of WW2.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Why not just say the clergy also participated in the rapes. Like monk solider monk soldier or something? If they were so happy and willing to turn churches into rape centers why Wouldn't they participate?

sj

pre 9 godina

(truly sad, 28 October 2014 14:10)

In my book rape is the lowest act, but it is a fact that during wars there are few rules and some low life always takes advantage of the situation.
My point was not to demean a person who was raped but to point out that the west used rape as a propaganda tool against Serbs both in Bosnia and Kosovo. I saw and heard the wildest claims being made during the Bosnian war. Once such incident was in Switzerland where the Bosniaks were claiming that one of their girls was about to give birth to a baby resulting from rape by a Serb and the young women did give birth to a baby, but it was black so this was quickly hushed up.
If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
(Peggy, 28 October 2014 22:46)

So you are implying that the Western media tells the truth! Are you sure you are a Serb?! No Serb would ever imply that... Come on, admit it - you also are an Albanian in disguise :)

Moderate albanian

pre 9 godina

As a proud albanian i am sickened and disgusted by the horrible acts of terror committed by my people against the Serbs and other ethnic minorities!
We albanians have never been able to co-exist and live in peace with any of our neighbours. We always play the victim and are never able to take responsibility for our own despicable actions!
I dont understand our obsession with Kosovo. If it is so wonderful, why are we all trying to leave and run to the west?
The truth is that Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian.
We have turned Kosovo into an impoverished naro state where most of our people live in poverty and isolation, whilst our so called "leaders" drive around in expensive cars and live in mansions!
We albanians have been so brain washed by propaganda, nationalism and our own ignorance to see this.
Until we albanians wake up and learn to live in peace with out neighbous then we will always be living in poverty and we'll remain the scum of europe.

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

Throw enough crap at the wall and see what sticks? HAHAHAHAHA

You know we burned down the serb churches in 2004 because we wanted to chase out serbs and their culture and history from Kosova. Just tell the truth man. Your a bad liar.

110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)

You've been told numerous times that [sic] chetniks saved 432 American airmen plus a number of other allied airmen from the Croat Hitler-worshiping Nazis that most of you Albanians were allies with. You were also told that a statue of Dragoljub Mihailovic was erected in his honor in MY COUNTRY-aka- United States of America.

Those that are identified throughout the world with the human organ harvesting Yellow House and that go around claiming that they are good friends with the White House shouldn't be treating their minorities the way they are. Remember three things though: (1) We know you good now (2) We always--sooner or later--right our wrongs (3) The Western cowboy can't stand ungrateful, dirty-double-crossers.

Cowboy definition of a double-crosser: A professional gunfighter with a two gun rig as worn by Wild Bill Hickok.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RX-l3ruTOE

Cowboy definition of a dirty-double-crosser: Any professional lying sycophant drug dealing, human trafficking, animal molesting and hamboning weasel that crosses the ocean or the desert twice and doesn't bathe even once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Paige

" their last name being Pejić.[2] His mother kept him and his brother in touch with their roots, reminding them of the Battle of Kosovo, but also told them to be proud Americans."

ida

pre 9 godina

"WOW, that's a huge loss for the event."

Well Serbia was a major player in WWI - Serbia had the very first allied victory and Serbs suffered the most losses proportionally. They also won at the end.

The Kosovo flag is not historical and took no place in the victory over the Axis powers.

But this commemoration is stupid anyways - they've already had scores of commemoration events. It is the END of the war that should be commemorated, or allied successes, not the beginning.

And again, there is no historical role for the newly-fangled Kosovo flag. It was the Serbian army which pushed the Axis out.

That the Kosovo flag is there shows it is fascist powers in control now, and they are the ones really being all these wars, such as in Ukraine with neo-Nazi symbols and neo-Nazis all over.

against hate

pre 9 godina

@ari Gold
every time you comment here you make a fool of yourself. Your redicules comments do not refelect what Serbians in general think, they reflect fringe nationlist, fascist thinking and in their one-sided hate show what kind of a person you are. You disqualify yourself every time you open your mouth.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

You're not Serbian. And you're not "moderate". It is not moderate to lie and say Serbian Orthodox Churches were used as bases for raping Albanian women. You are trying to justify the case for Albanian vendetta and you think this is modern or moderate?

And I don't know why Albanians like to do this. Like to pose as Serbs on the internet as if someone is going to give them more legitimacy this way. Even the self-hating Serb Danilo Jurisch who comments on here every now and then, not even his self-hatred for his own people gives him enough venom to blatantly lie about things which have absolutely no basis.

Nice try. But you're about as moderate as ISIS. And about as Serbian as Nelson Mandela was.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)
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To the moderate Serb, sorry, I meant to say rabid Albanian,
If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
The stories just keep getting wilder and wilder.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)
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We keep telling you that if you don't like it here go to your own media but you just won't listen. We can't help you if you don't want to help yourself.
BTW, it's promoting rabid Albanian dogs. There is always more of you here than us. Wonder why since you think so little of it.

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia can demand Kosovo Serbs vote on ballots with republic of kosovo central Comission logo but cant go to Belgium because Kosovo logos will be on display? Kosovo Serbs are fine with republic of Kosovo logos and swearing loyalty oaths to Kosovo. What's the problem? What's going on? Remember that rakic had to replace pantic who couldn't sign the rok oath?

Ratko

pre 9 godina

So many anti-serb internet trolls here what a joke.

What do albans have to do with WW1 or WW2? Oh ya they were best buddies with nazi fascists and hitler. infact albans through their history (since arriving in europe from the mountains around black sea, most likely present day turkey) have always sided with the 'evildoers.'

oberver

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

what a pathetic comment. I do not see that Roberto in any way wrote anything in this Wikepedia article, and it just states facts, which the serb facists here do not want to hear.

Besides that SF Eagle must be gay himself if he is so intrested in New York Times articles about lonley old gay man. Probably somebody who needs to come out of his closet and finally live a free live.

Benji

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
[link]/
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(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58)

Please watch at these other Milosevic and Serbian propaganda.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=47c_1358622848

http://www.grreporter.info/en/11yearold_bulgarian_girl_raped_and_killed_albanian/3248

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TLI3OHA0CP8TMLKKK

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/denmark/TUU7MC05KQ9TQ06LI

http://www.topix.com/forum/uk/london/TQVUJEVA8P50GNDF6

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/switzerland/T66F6C24QA9Q3KI9J

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Derby-rapist-busted-in-Naugatuck-5719250.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3311967.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000652/Oxford-students-warned-night-Albanian-pervert-strikes-FIVE-times-TEN-days.html

http://goldendawnaus.blogspot.com/2014/05/knife-wielding-albanian-rapist-arrested.html

roberto

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(sj, 28 October 2014 08:37)
I love the Serbian way of thinking, "unfortunately it happens in all wars" so I guess we should pin a medal on every Serb soldier who committed rape in the name of Serbia, after all they did not set up rape camps. But the confusing thing is that in the article it did confirm that Serbs raped the women in detention centers. I have to wonder if you have a detention center or camp and the women are routinely raped by the guards and soldiers, but HRW does not consider this a rape camp, one has to wonder exactly what their definition is?
One has to wonder the caliber of a man who is outraged over turned over tombstones in abandoned cemeteries but thinks rape is just part of war and it is to be expected no big deal!

njegos

pre 9 godina

Mirel - Why do you continue to comment a Serbian internet site? When you engage someone in a debate or someone tries to engage you in a debate, you run away to another thread. You have no credibility and are ill-equipped to support your positions with any meaningful dialogue. May I suggest that you disappear and quit wasting everyone's time.

edi

pre 9 godina

the Balkans is lees evolved than the rest of Europe and that is the sad truth! however Serbia is the lees evolved from all Balkan! I read many time the comments in here and i am so sorry to say but majority of Serbian comments belong to un evolved species! that also apply to this Serbian president! he is un evolved therefore he is in power from the votes of un evolved serbs! i am sure that serbia can have someone better than him! anyway dont coment to me back cause i don't want to go back in time! thx

SF Eagle

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/booming/a-gay-man-at-midlife-ponders-being-lonely-and-invisible.html?_r=0

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.

BPP

pre 9 godina

Why is kosovo going anyway?
They played no role in wwI.
They just want exposure and to feel like a country but everyone knows they are not!

Further more look at the role Albania n's played in wwII and supporting Hitler.

Josip

pre 9 godina

The Serbian economy is going nowhere and tens of thousands of talented young Serbs leave the country every year because there are no opportunities, and this is the most important issue for the President and the genius commenters on this page?!! President Nikolic's statements in the last couple of weeks show that he is better fit to join the ridiculous chat on this page than to be head of state of a country that should be a leader in Europe.

sj

pre 9 godina

(follow your own advice, 28 October 2014 00:29)

No women should suffer this indignity but sadly rape occurs in all wars and Kosovo was no exception, but Serbs did not have rape camps. These were rumours started by the US as part of their propaganda. I am fascinated that Human Rights Watch, which is a group funded by the US government, came out with such a statment to counter the claims of rape camps. Normally the HRW only confirms whatever Washington proclaims.

rote

pre 9 godina

"Moreover," added the statement, "that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."


"Had no role" was much more preferable compared to the role they played in WW2.

sj

pre 9 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 27 October 2014 20:59)

If Boom is Serbian then I’m a Martian. I’m a tad fuzzy on histroy but during which period between 1914 – 1918 did Kosova take part in against the Austrians or Germans? LOL.
These stupid arseholes in Brussels think they will be smart by trying to demean Serbia, which refuses to levy sanctions against Russia, by inviting goat herders to their commemration. Let them have Kosova and its so called symbals but as I said once Ukraine is resolved the Blakans are next then you can pin your Kosova symbals on your backside LOL.
PS hope the Belgium’s hide their silver. Look at what happened to George Bush’s watch.

The word Chetnik is not an insult because even your US friends accept them whereas Albos are expendable, all 10 000 of them.

Walter

pre 9 godina

This is weird because i remember there as a regional meeting a few weeks ago where Dacic participated and there was an obvious Kosovo flag there.... I think it's a personal problem with Nikolic because Vucic and Dacic don't seem to care but Nikolic is having a hard time transforming his 60-year-old nationalistic rotten mind into a modern one. I'm not Albanian, but common, just go and ignore the flag, i mean, think about it.... in Rio2016 Kosovo will participate in the olympic games, will we boycott it then? Let's be rational. Either way we are never getting Kosovo back and frankly, do you really want to have a southern province with a crazy bunch of 1.6 million Albanians? 18% of the population of Serbia will be Albanian in that case!! We are definitely stronger, richer and more prosperous without them.

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold
I am a serb, but just don’t think like you. I am a patriot, I love Serbia. I am no nationalist like you as I don’t think my country is better than the others. For evth bad we were told about Albanians we did much worse. There is no need to denigrate other countries to make us feel better.
I am tired of wars, lies and our state propaganda.
I am tired of being poor, with no prospects for jobs for my kids and a bleak future.
Let me open your eyes about some of big lies we have been told:

Lie number 1: Kosovo is Serbia.
I suggest you read some independent European scholars that study the history of Kosovo without a preconceived nationalistic project.
Read Noel Malcolm’s Kosovo History from Oxford university, you will learn that the truth is far from what we are being told.

Lie Number 2: Albanians breed like rabbits and have families with 10 children.
The fertility rate of Albanians is no different than that that of Serbs. Albania had higher birth rates prior to access to family planning as it did not exist under the communist regime. That was the case for most communist countries at that time, including Serbia.
Fertility rate for Albanian woman since collapse of communism is 1.48 and for Serbia excluding Kosovo is 1.45 children for woman, so tell me please, how are they different from us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Serbia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold

Lie Number 3: Albanians have being kidnapping Serbs and taking organs from them to sell for money.
There hasn’t been a day that I didn’t hear about this. The EU and TPIY have thoroughly investigated this for years, with huge financial means and resources, and in conclusion there is ZERO EVIDENCE of such horrible thing having ever taken place in Albania or Kosovo. Even Carla Del Ponte said so. See the link below:
http://www.tanjug.rs/news/139169/williamson--no-evidence-of-human-organ-trafficking.htm

Lie Number 4: Serbs are victims of the wars and Kosovo was unjustly taken from Serbia
The truth is that nobody had heard of Kosovo until our army drove more than a million Albanian out of Kosovo to Macedonia and Albania by burning their villages, killing and raping their daughters like in medieval times for no reason but because they were Albanians. Hundreds of young Kosovo girls raped by savage Serbs went to have abortions in Tirana hospitals. Those are well documented by the international bodies and Hague tribunal. There is a big difference between an isolated Albanian rapist you show and our state organized rape by the army. Thousand innocent Kosovo Albanians were also killed by our army.
http://www.icty.org/
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :)
(icj1, 27 October 2014 23:44)

What in the blue hell are you talking about? The Kingdom of Serbia was one of the founding members of the Allied Powers in WWI. Look, you formulate more intelligent comments than your more primitive cousins that come on here. But just because you don't sound like a complete moron all the time, doesn't mean you know what the hell you're talking about. In this case, you couldn't be more wrong.

One born every minute

pre 9 godina

Finally a stooge has grown a backbone, keep this up and I may call you mr president
(Goran bogoevski, 28 October 2014 00:26)
By staying home and saying it is because Kosovo is there, he is only creating more exposure for Kosovo and less for Serbia which causes more diplomats to look at Kosovo as a state entity. He is doing nothing for the good of Serbia.

roberto

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is an ole Chetnik wacko, no offense. Even normal and thoughtful Serbs will tell you so (not the extremists)> But what everyone has left off is the situation of the Balkan Wars, just preceding ww1, and how Serbian and Montenegrin troops went out of their way to commit atrocities - a foreshadowing of things to come:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

Bahri

pre 9 godina

He is not going not because Kosovo but he decide to stay home an drink his bottle of Rakia(Vodka)like he did few month ago and Pakistan Ambassador had to help him to go to his car.

Agree

pre 9 godina

President Nikolic should not bother going even if the Kosovan delegation is not there. The room will still be full of liars, cheats, undesirables and misfits!!

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58
You look up articles on individual Albanians accused of rape to compare as worse than Serb forces organized gang rapes that are government sanctioned.
How pathetic can one person get?

follow your own advice

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)
Maybe you should follow your own ADVICE. That was a small part at the end talking about the rumor of rape camps. The article confirmed cases of rapes in 3 areas either on the front lawns of homes while making the family watch, in adjoining rooms, along with ituations where they would stop families trying to flee on the road and tell them if they could not come up with money they would take their daughters and some cases where the Albanian would give money and they would still take their young daughters off and gang rape them.
It was only the rumors of rape camps that was never confirmed at the time by human rights.
Of course I am guessing you actually read all that and just picked that one part to try and make it all seem like a lie.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Stupid move. If Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo, then don't recognize them in the room. It shows more class to ignore than to snub. Why should the Kosovo delegation get a chance to it up the buffet table and Toma stays home?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.
(rick, 27 October 2014 21:19)

Ehhh talking about delusional rettard, no it wasnt a serbian citizen it was a Bosnian Serb by the name of Gavrilo Princip, a true legend and a hero that assasinated the dictator Franz Ferdinand. He was a part of a group called crna ruka, made up by muslims, croats and serbs, that planned to assasinate the dictator and he was third one to try. They were all lined up through the dictators route through Sarajevo, first the muslim tried and failed, then the croat and finally Gavrilo finished him off. He is and will always be remember like a true HERO.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.

Next time maybe you should try to read the article that your referring to before you try to spread your delusional antiserb propaganda.

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :) So, I guess, Nikolic heard you and understood that since there was no "Serbian" army he cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
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Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

That's going to go ahead regardless of whether a certain Tomislav attends or not, but it's not about humiliating Serbia. Not sure why you want Serbia to feel humiliated!!!

rick

pre 9 godina

"that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)
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First of all stop posing as a Serb. We all know what you are.
Second, if ther was any ethnic cleansing it was Albanians cleansing Serbs for decades before the war and how come there is more of you there now than before if you were the ones cleansed?
I do agree that in every war women get raped. Women are the innocent who get hurt but at the same time do you really think that Serbian women and girls didn't get raped during that war too? Wrong on both sides but at least the honest and conedemn all the same.
Are some victims worth more than others?

Edmond

pre 9 godina

Every day there is something new coming out of this joke of a country led by war criminals like Nikolic, Vucic and Dacic.
It is about time these three realized that they lead a meaningless country and nobody gives two f@@@s about what they have to say.
Rather than going on about 'Serbian pride' ( wich is deep, dark shame in reality) these three ugly crooks should find it in their heart and apologise to the region, for the genocide they have committed.
As for Kosovo, the sooner you get it through your thick heads that it never was, never is, and never will be part of Serbia, the better ! How can a country with 92 % Albanian population can somehow be part of Serbia? Even by Serbian logic (always a joke) it is impossible ! You were just temporary invaders of this Albanian land, that's all .

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

Boom,
I know there are many decent Serbs like yourself out there; I thank you for your support. It appears that Nikolic will NOT be attending any more international gatherings where Kosova will be present, without asterick "*", and will be displaying their full State symbols. Eat your heart out Ari, sj and other primative chetniks.

the truth

pre 9 godina

"Although it was planned for the president to take part in the gathering and honor the soldiers of the victor-countries in the First World War, the president will not travel to Belgium," Nikolić's press office announced, and added:

Undertaker forgot that ww1 started by a serb, how silly this undertaker is ???

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Whats wrong Nikolic?
Kosovo je Serbia or not?LOL!
This is a good excuse for any host country to get rid of serbs,if they dont want in the table.
Display the Republic of Kosovo symbols and Nikolic,Vucic &co will leave or not attend.
Smart move from Belgum.

As for Nikolic,like his predecesor Miloshevich,they still live in denial,and doing short sightet populist politics.
Keep dreaming,because you will end up with the vylajet of Belgrade in the end.
I agree with Edi Rama and his advice to recognise Kosovo and move on,is still the mos pragmatic one.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.

Twice a Day

pre 9 godina

Time for the mentally disturbed albanian trolls who post here regularly (not the normal ones) to take their meds regualry and be kept away from the Internet.

Fast Eddie

pre 9 godina

Another joke coming from Belgrade. Few days ago Kosovo's foreign minister was in Belgrade.
(Avni, 27 October 2014 17:25)

You're almost right for once. Your Kosova's* prime minister is an International joke, and not just "Another joke"
as you see him.

just a thought

pre 9 godina

Maybe he should go on hunger strike to protest. From the picture of him with Putin, he could stand to lose a few pounds so his suit fits!

marKo

pre 9 godina

Given that there was a recent visit to Belgrade I could not figure out what the motivation was behind this. This is my Theory

Because there are no talks scheduled with Pristina while Pristina sorts out the last election, there is no big danger of upseting talks or the EU. Meanwhile with the EU backed austerity plans coming into force in Serbia, and likely Albania, it is very convenient for the government to distract people from thinking about the quality of life in the country.

Regular people, who were poor to begin with are about to become poorer, and the governments of Albania and Serbia are playing tricks on their people.

This is a dangerous game and it should end.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8637611.Albanian_rapist_will_be_deported_after_serving_three_years/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eight-albanian-teenagers-arrested-suspicion-raping-tower-hamlets-girl-1467690

boom

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

boom

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)
==============================
First of all stop posing as a Serb. We all know what you are.
Second, if ther was any ethnic cleansing it was Albanians cleansing Serbs for decades before the war and how come there is more of you there now than before if you were the ones cleansed?
I do agree that in every war women get raped. Women are the innocent who get hurt but at the same time do you really think that Serbian women and girls didn't get raped during that war too? Wrong on both sides but at least the honest and conedemn all the same.
Are some victims worth more than others?

Fast Eddie

pre 9 godina

Another joke coming from Belgrade. Few days ago Kosovo's foreign minister was in Belgrade.
(Avni, 27 October 2014 17:25)

You're almost right for once. Your Kosova's* prime minister is an International joke, and not just "Another joke"
as you see him.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8637611.Albanian_rapist_will_be_deported_after_serving_three_years/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eight-albanian-teenagers-arrested-suspicion-raping-tower-hamlets-girl-1467690

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.

Twice a Day

pre 9 godina

Time for the mentally disturbed albanian trolls who post here regularly (not the normal ones) to take their meds regualry and be kept away from the Internet.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.
(rick, 27 October 2014 21:19)

Ehhh talking about delusional rettard, no it wasnt a serbian citizen it was a Bosnian Serb by the name of Gavrilo Princip, a true legend and a hero that assasinated the dictator Franz Ferdinand. He was a part of a group called crna ruka, made up by muslims, croats and serbs, that planned to assasinate the dictator and he was third one to try. They were all lined up through the dictators route through Sarajevo, first the muslim tried and failed, then the croat and finally Gavrilo finished him off. He is and will always be remember like a true HERO.

follow your own advice

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)
Maybe you should follow your own ADVICE. That was a small part at the end talking about the rumor of rape camps. The article confirmed cases of rapes in 3 areas either on the front lawns of homes while making the family watch, in adjoining rooms, along with ituations where they would stop families trying to flee on the road and tell them if they could not come up with money they would take their daughters and some cases where the Albanian would give money and they would still take their young daughters off and gang rape them.
It was only the rumors of rape camps that was never confirmed at the time by human rights.
Of course I am guessing you actually read all that and just picked that one part to try and make it all seem like a lie.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.

Next time maybe you should try to read the article that your referring to before you try to spread your delusional antiserb propaganda.

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.

just a thought

pre 9 godina

Maybe he should go on hunger strike to protest. From the picture of him with Putin, he could stand to lose a few pounds so his suit fits!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :)
(icj1, 27 October 2014 23:44)

What in the blue hell are you talking about? The Kingdom of Serbia was one of the founding members of the Allied Powers in WWI. Look, you formulate more intelligent comments than your more primitive cousins that come on here. But just because you don't sound like a complete moron all the time, doesn't mean you know what the hell you're talking about. In this case, you couldn't be more wrong.

Edmond

pre 9 godina

Every day there is something new coming out of this joke of a country led by war criminals like Nikolic, Vucic and Dacic.
It is about time these three realized that they lead a meaningless country and nobody gives two f@@@s about what they have to say.
Rather than going on about 'Serbian pride' ( wich is deep, dark shame in reality) these three ugly crooks should find it in their heart and apologise to the region, for the genocide they have committed.
As for Kosovo, the sooner you get it through your thick heads that it never was, never is, and never will be part of Serbia, the better ! How can a country with 92 % Albanian population can somehow be part of Serbia? Even by Serbian logic (always a joke) it is impossible ! You were just temporary invaders of this Albanian land, that's all .

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Stupid move. If Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo, then don't recognize them in the room. It shows more class to ignore than to snub. Why should the Kosovo delegation get a chance to it up the buffet table and Toma stays home?

BPP

pre 9 godina

Why is kosovo going anyway?
They played no role in wwI.
They just want exposure and to feel like a country but everyone knows they are not!

Further more look at the role Albania n's played in wwII and supporting Hitler.

Ratko

pre 9 godina

So many anti-serb internet trolls here what a joke.

What do albans have to do with WW1 or WW2? Oh ya they were best buddies with nazi fascists and hitler. infact albans through their history (since arriving in europe from the mountains around black sea, most likely present day turkey) have always sided with the 'evildoers.'

rick

pre 9 godina

"that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

You're not Serbian. And you're not "moderate". It is not moderate to lie and say Serbian Orthodox Churches were used as bases for raping Albanian women. You are trying to justify the case for Albanian vendetta and you think this is modern or moderate?

And I don't know why Albanians like to do this. Like to pose as Serbs on the internet as if someone is going to give them more legitimacy this way. Even the self-hating Serb Danilo Jurisch who comments on here every now and then, not even his self-hatred for his own people gives him enough venom to blatantly lie about things which have absolutely no basis.

Nice try. But you're about as moderate as ISIS. And about as Serbian as Nelson Mandela was.

Moderate albanian

pre 9 godina

As a proud albanian i am sickened and disgusted by the horrible acts of terror committed by my people against the Serbs and other ethnic minorities!
We albanians have never been able to co-exist and live in peace with any of our neighbours. We always play the victim and are never able to take responsibility for our own despicable actions!
I dont understand our obsession with Kosovo. If it is so wonderful, why are we all trying to leave and run to the west?
The truth is that Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian.
We have turned Kosovo into an impoverished naro state where most of our people live in poverty and isolation, whilst our so called "leaders" drive around in expensive cars and live in mansions!
We albanians have been so brain washed by propaganda, nationalism and our own ignorance to see this.
Until we albanians wake up and learn to live in peace with out neighbous then we will always be living in poverty and we'll remain the scum of europe.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Whats wrong Nikolic?
Kosovo je Serbia or not?LOL!
This is a good excuse for any host country to get rid of serbs,if they dont want in the table.
Display the Republic of Kosovo symbols and Nikolic,Vucic &co will leave or not attend.
Smart move from Belgum.

As for Nikolic,like his predecesor Miloshevich,they still live in denial,and doing short sightet populist politics.
Keep dreaming,because you will end up with the vylajet of Belgrade in the end.
I agree with Edi Rama and his advice to recognise Kosovo and move on,is still the mos pragmatic one.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

Boom,
I know there are many decent Serbs like yourself out there; I thank you for your support. It appears that Nikolic will NOT be attending any more international gatherings where Kosova will be present, without asterick "*", and will be displaying their full State symbols. Eat your heart out Ari, sj and other primative chetniks.

Agree

pre 9 godina

President Nikolic should not bother going even if the Kosovan delegation is not there. The room will still be full of liars, cheats, undesirables and misfits!!

sj

pre 9 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 27 October 2014 20:59)

If Boom is Serbian then I’m a Martian. I’m a tad fuzzy on histroy but during which period between 1914 – 1918 did Kosova take part in against the Austrians or Germans? LOL.
These stupid arseholes in Brussels think they will be smart by trying to demean Serbia, which refuses to levy sanctions against Russia, by inviting goat herders to their commemration. Let them have Kosova and its so called symbals but as I said once Ukraine is resolved the Blakans are next then you can pin your Kosova symbals on your backside LOL.
PS hope the Belgium’s hide their silver. Look at what happened to George Bush’s watch.

The word Chetnik is not an insult because even your US friends accept them whereas Albos are expendable, all 10 000 of them.

sj

pre 9 godina

(follow your own advice, 28 October 2014 00:29)

No women should suffer this indignity but sadly rape occurs in all wars and Kosovo was no exception, but Serbs did not have rape camps. These were rumours started by the US as part of their propaganda. I am fascinated that Human Rights Watch, which is a group funded by the US government, came out with such a statment to counter the claims of rape camps. Normally the HRW only confirms whatever Washington proclaims.

marKo

pre 9 godina

Given that there was a recent visit to Belgrade I could not figure out what the motivation was behind this. This is my Theory

Because there are no talks scheduled with Pristina while Pristina sorts out the last election, there is no big danger of upseting talks or the EU. Meanwhile with the EU backed austerity plans coming into force in Serbia, and likely Albania, it is very convenient for the government to distract people from thinking about the quality of life in the country.

Regular people, who were poor to begin with are about to become poorer, and the governments of Albania and Serbia are playing tricks on their people.

This is a dangerous game and it should end.

rote

pre 9 godina

"Moreover," added the statement, "that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."


"Had no role" was much more preferable compared to the role they played in WW2.

njegos

pre 9 godina

Mirel - Why do you continue to comment a Serbian internet site? When you engage someone in a debate or someone tries to engage you in a debate, you run away to another thread. You have no credibility and are ill-equipped to support your positions with any meaningful dialogue. May I suggest that you disappear and quit wasting everyone's time.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)
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To the moderate Serb, sorry, I meant to say rabid Albanian,
If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
The stories just keep getting wilder and wilder.

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold
I am a serb, but just don’t think like you. I am a patriot, I love Serbia. I am no nationalist like you as I don’t think my country is better than the others. For evth bad we were told about Albanians we did much worse. There is no need to denigrate other countries to make us feel better.
I am tired of wars, lies and our state propaganda.
I am tired of being poor, with no prospects for jobs for my kids and a bleak future.
Let me open your eyes about some of big lies we have been told:

Lie number 1: Kosovo is Serbia.
I suggest you read some independent European scholars that study the history of Kosovo without a preconceived nationalistic project.
Read Noel Malcolm’s Kosovo History from Oxford university, you will learn that the truth is far from what we are being told.

Lie Number 2: Albanians breed like rabbits and have families with 10 children.
The fertility rate of Albanians is no different than that that of Serbs. Albania had higher birth rates prior to access to family planning as it did not exist under the communist regime. That was the case for most communist countries at that time, including Serbia.
Fertility rate for Albanian woman since collapse of communism is 1.48 and for Serbia excluding Kosovo is 1.45 children for woman, so tell me please, how are they different from us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Serbia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania

the truth

pre 9 godina

"Although it was planned for the president to take part in the gathering and honor the soldiers of the victor-countries in the First World War, the president will not travel to Belgium," Nikolić's press office announced, and added:

Undertaker forgot that ww1 started by a serb, how silly this undertaker is ???

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58
You look up articles on individual Albanians accused of rape to compare as worse than Serb forces organized gang rapes that are government sanctioned.
How pathetic can one person get?

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold

Lie Number 3: Albanians have being kidnapping Serbs and taking organs from them to sell for money.
There hasn’t been a day that I didn’t hear about this. The EU and TPIY have thoroughly investigated this for years, with huge financial means and resources, and in conclusion there is ZERO EVIDENCE of such horrible thing having ever taken place in Albania or Kosovo. Even Carla Del Ponte said so. See the link below:
http://www.tanjug.rs/news/139169/williamson--no-evidence-of-human-organ-trafficking.htm

Lie Number 4: Serbs are victims of the wars and Kosovo was unjustly taken from Serbia
The truth is that nobody had heard of Kosovo until our army drove more than a million Albanian out of Kosovo to Macedonia and Albania by burning their villages, killing and raping their daughters like in medieval times for no reason but because they were Albanians. Hundreds of young Kosovo girls raped by savage Serbs went to have abortions in Tirana hospitals. Those are well documented by the international bodies and Hague tribunal. There is a big difference between an isolated Albanian rapist you show and our state organized rape by the army. Thousand innocent Kosovo Albanians were also killed by our army.
http://www.icty.org/
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

roberto

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...

Peggy

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)
=============================
We keep telling you that if you don't like it here go to your own media but you just won't listen. We can't help you if you don't want to help yourself.
BTW, it's promoting rabid Albanian dogs. There is always more of you here than us. Wonder why since you think so little of it.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :) So, I guess, Nikolic heard you and understood that since there was no "Serbian" army he cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
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Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

That's going to go ahead regardless of whether a certain Tomislav attends or not, but it's not about humiliating Serbia. Not sure why you want Serbia to feel humiliated!!!

Walter

pre 9 godina

This is weird because i remember there as a regional meeting a few weeks ago where Dacic participated and there was an obvious Kosovo flag there.... I think it's a personal problem with Nikolic because Vucic and Dacic don't seem to care but Nikolic is having a hard time transforming his 60-year-old nationalistic rotten mind into a modern one. I'm not Albanian, but common, just go and ignore the flag, i mean, think about it.... in Rio2016 Kosovo will participate in the olympic games, will we boycott it then? Let's be rational. Either way we are never getting Kosovo back and frankly, do you really want to have a southern province with a crazy bunch of 1.6 million Albanians? 18% of the population of Serbia will be Albanian in that case!! We are definitely stronger, richer and more prosperous without them.

rick

pre 9 godina

(Moderate albanian, 29 October 2014 02:52)

If you are Albanian then I am THE Serbian monk .Serbian chetnik crimes are well documented and tops all crimes ever committed since the end of WW2.

SF Eagle

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/booming/a-gay-man-at-midlife-ponders-being-lonely-and-invisible.html?_r=0

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.

Benji

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
[link]/
[link]
(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58)

Please watch at these other Milosevic and Serbian propaganda.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=47c_1358622848

http://www.grreporter.info/en/11yearold_bulgarian_girl_raped_and_killed_albanian/3248

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TLI3OHA0CP8TMLKKK

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/denmark/TUU7MC05KQ9TQ06LI

http://www.topix.com/forum/uk/london/TQVUJEVA8P50GNDF6

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/switzerland/T66F6C24QA9Q3KI9J

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Derby-rapist-busted-in-Naugatuck-5719250.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3311967.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000652/Oxford-students-warned-night-Albanian-pervert-strikes-FIVE-times-TEN-days.html

http://goldendawnaus.blogspot.com/2014/05/knife-wielding-albanian-rapist-arrested.html

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia can demand Kosovo Serbs vote on ballots with republic of kosovo central Comission logo but cant go to Belgium because Kosovo logos will be on display? Kosovo Serbs are fine with republic of Kosovo logos and swearing loyalty oaths to Kosovo. What's the problem? What's going on? Remember that rakic had to replace pantic who couldn't sign the rok oath?

oberver

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

what a pathetic comment. I do not see that Roberto in any way wrote anything in this Wikepedia article, and it just states facts, which the serb facists here do not want to hear.

Besides that SF Eagle must be gay himself if he is so intrested in New York Times articles about lonley old gay man. Probably somebody who needs to come out of his closet and finally live a free live.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
(Peggy, 28 October 2014 22:46)

So you are implying that the Western media tells the truth! Are you sure you are a Serb?! No Serb would ever imply that... Come on, admit it - you also are an Albanian in disguise :)

roberto

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is an ole Chetnik wacko, no offense. Even normal and thoughtful Serbs will tell you so (not the extremists)> But what everyone has left off is the situation of the Balkan Wars, just preceding ww1, and how Serbian and Montenegrin troops went out of their way to commit atrocities - a foreshadowing of things to come:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.

against hate

pre 9 godina

@ari Gold
every time you comment here you make a fool of yourself. Your redicules comments do not refelect what Serbians in general think, they reflect fringe nationlist, fascist thinking and in their one-sided hate show what kind of a person you are. You disqualify yourself every time you open your mouth.

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

Throw enough crap at the wall and see what sticks? HAHAHAHAHA

You know we burned down the serb churches in 2004 because we wanted to chase out serbs and their culture and history from Kosova. Just tell the truth man. Your a bad liar.

Bahri

pre 9 godina

He is not going not because Kosovo but he decide to stay home an drink his bottle of Rakia(Vodka)like he did few month ago and Pakistan Ambassador had to help him to go to his car.

Josip

pre 9 godina

The Serbian economy is going nowhere and tens of thousands of talented young Serbs leave the country every year because there are no opportunities, and this is the most important issue for the President and the genius commenters on this page?!! President Nikolic's statements in the last couple of weeks show that he is better fit to join the ridiculous chat on this page than to be head of state of a country that should be a leader in Europe.

edi

pre 9 godina

the Balkans is lees evolved than the rest of Europe and that is the sad truth! however Serbia is the lees evolved from all Balkan! I read many time the comments in here and i am so sorry to say but majority of Serbian comments belong to un evolved species! that also apply to this Serbian president! he is un evolved therefore he is in power from the votes of un evolved serbs! i am sure that serbia can have someone better than him! anyway dont coment to me back cause i don't want to go back in time! thx

110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)

You've been told numerous times that [sic] chetniks saved 432 American airmen plus a number of other allied airmen from the Croat Hitler-worshiping Nazis that most of you Albanians were allies with. You were also told that a statue of Dragoljub Mihailovic was erected in his honor in MY COUNTRY-aka- United States of America.

Those that are identified throughout the world with the human organ harvesting Yellow House and that go around claiming that they are good friends with the White House shouldn't be treating their minorities the way they are. Remember three things though: (1) We know you good now (2) We always--sooner or later--right our wrongs (3) The Western cowboy can't stand ungrateful, dirty-double-crossers.

Cowboy definition of a double-crosser: A professional gunfighter with a two gun rig as worn by Wild Bill Hickok.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RX-l3ruTOE

Cowboy definition of a dirty-double-crosser: Any professional lying sycophant drug dealing, human trafficking, animal molesting and hamboning weasel that crosses the ocean or the desert twice and doesn't bathe even once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Paige

" their last name being Pejić.[2] His mother kept him and his brother in touch with their roots, reminding them of the Battle of Kosovo, but also told them to be proud Americans."

icj1

pre 9 godina

If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.
(sj, 29 October 2014 05:45)

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?
(Daniel, 29 October 2014 19:41)

Well, let's say that albanians breed like rabbits... And what's the problem with that? It's certainly not a crime :)

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(sj, 28 October 2014 08:37)
I love the Serbian way of thinking, "unfortunately it happens in all wars" so I guess we should pin a medal on every Serb soldier who committed rape in the name of Serbia, after all they did not set up rape camps. But the confusing thing is that in the article it did confirm that Serbs raped the women in detention centers. I have to wonder if you have a detention center or camp and the women are routinely raped by the guards and soldiers, but HRW does not consider this a rape camp, one has to wonder exactly what their definition is?
One has to wonder the caliber of a man who is outraged over turned over tombstones in abandoned cemeteries but thinks rape is just part of war and it is to be expected no big deal!

ida

pre 9 godina

"WOW, that's a huge loss for the event."

Well Serbia was a major player in WWI - Serbia had the very first allied victory and Serbs suffered the most losses proportionally. They also won at the end.

The Kosovo flag is not historical and took no place in the victory over the Axis powers.

But this commemoration is stupid anyways - they've already had scores of commemoration events. It is the END of the war that should be commemorated, or allied successes, not the beginning.

And again, there is no historical role for the newly-fangled Kosovo flag. It was the Serbian army which pushed the Axis out.

That the Kosovo flag is there shows it is fascist powers in control now, and they are the ones really being all these wars, such as in Ukraine with neo-Nazi symbols and neo-Nazis all over.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Why not just say the clergy also participated in the rapes. Like monk solider monk soldier or something? If they were so happy and willing to turn churches into rape centers why Wouldn't they participate?

One born every minute

pre 9 godina

Finally a stooge has grown a backbone, keep this up and I may call you mr president
(Goran bogoevski, 28 October 2014 00:26)
By staying home and saying it is because Kosovo is there, he is only creating more exposure for Kosovo and less for Serbia which causes more diplomats to look at Kosovo as a state entity. He is doing nothing for the good of Serbia.

sj

pre 9 godina

(truly sad, 28 October 2014 14:10)

In my book rape is the lowest act, but it is a fact that during wars there are few rules and some low life always takes advantage of the situation.
My point was not to demean a person who was raped but to point out that the west used rape as a propaganda tool against Serbs both in Bosnia and Kosovo. I saw and heard the wildest claims being made during the Bosnian war. Once such incident was in Switzerland where the Bosniaks were claiming that one of their girls was about to give birth to a baby resulting from rape by a Serb and the young women did give birth to a baby, but it was black so this was quickly hushed up.
If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.

good luck

pre 9 godina

(110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American, 29 October 2014 00:08
Its nice that they allow you computer access in whatever institution you reside, probably some type of therapy design. Good luck I am 110% sure you need a while longer before release though.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?

Ethnic
group census 1948 census 1953 census 1961 census 1971 census 1981 census 1991 census 2011
Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number %
Albanians 498,244 68.5 524,559 64.9 646,605 67.1 916,168 73.7 1,226,736 77.4 1,596,072 81.6 1,616,869 92.9
Serbs 171,911 23.6 189,869 23.5 227,016 23.5 228,264 18.4 209,498 13.2 194,190 9.9 25,532 1.5
Muslims 9,679 1.3 6,241 0.8 8,026 0.8 26,357 2.1 58,562 3.7 66,189 3.4
Bosniaks 27,533 1.6
Gorani 10,265 0.6
Montenegrins 28,050 3.9 31,343 3.9 37,588 3.9 31,555 2.5 27,028 1.7 20,365 1.1
Croats 5,290 0.7 6,201 0.8 7,251 0.8 8,264 0.7 8,718 0.6 8,062 0.4
Yugoslavs 5,206 0.5 920 0.1 2,676 0.2 3,457 0.2
Romani 11,230 1.5 11,904 1.5 3,202 0.3 14.593 1.2 34,126 2.2 45,760 2.3 8,824 0,5
Ashkali 15,436 0.9
Egyptians 11,524 0.6
Turks 1,315 0.2 34,583 4.3 25,764 2.7 12,244 1.0 12,513 0.8 10,445 0.5 18,738 1.1
Macedonians 526 0.1 972 0.1 1,142 0.1 1,048 0.1 1,056 0.1
Others or unspecified 1,577 0.2 2,469 0.3 2,188 0.2 4,280 0.3 3,454 0.2 11,656 0.6 3,264 0.6
Total 727,820 808,141 963,988 1,243,693 1,584,441 1,956,196 1,739,825

icj1

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein
(sj, 30 October 2014 09:40)

Haha, no problem mate since, in any case, you quoted the wrong post - I did not answer any question. But I'm ready to help you find the actual post with an "answer to a question no one ever asked" so that your valuable time in writing the post above is not wasted.

Anyway, I'm honored I got a chance to be quoted by the CE of B92 forums sj in person :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein

boom

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

Edmond

pre 9 godina

Every day there is something new coming out of this joke of a country led by war criminals like Nikolic, Vucic and Dacic.
It is about time these three realized that they lead a meaningless country and nobody gives two f@@@s about what they have to say.
Rather than going on about 'Serbian pride' ( wich is deep, dark shame in reality) these three ugly crooks should find it in their heart and apologise to the region, for the genocide they have committed.
As for Kosovo, the sooner you get it through your thick heads that it never was, never is, and never will be part of Serbia, the better ! How can a country with 92 % Albanian population can somehow be part of Serbia? Even by Serbian logic (always a joke) it is impossible ! You were just temporary invaders of this Albanian land, that's all .

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Whats wrong Nikolic?
Kosovo je Serbia or not?LOL!
This is a good excuse for any host country to get rid of serbs,if they dont want in the table.
Display the Republic of Kosovo symbols and Nikolic,Vucic &co will leave or not attend.
Smart move from Belgum.

As for Nikolic,like his predecesor Miloshevich,they still live in denial,and doing short sightet populist politics.
Keep dreaming,because you will end up with the vylajet of Belgrade in the end.
I agree with Edi Rama and his advice to recognise Kosovo and move on,is still the mos pragmatic one.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

Boom,
I know there are many decent Serbs like yourself out there; I thank you for your support. It appears that Nikolic will NOT be attending any more international gatherings where Kosova will be present, without asterick "*", and will be displaying their full State symbols. Eat your heart out Ari, sj and other primative chetniks.

the truth

pre 9 godina

"Although it was planned for the president to take part in the gathering and honor the soldiers of the victor-countries in the First World War, the president will not travel to Belgium," Nikolić's press office announced, and added:

Undertaker forgot that ww1 started by a serb, how silly this undertaker is ???

rick

pre 9 godina

"that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold

Lie Number 3: Albanians have being kidnapping Serbs and taking organs from them to sell for money.
There hasn’t been a day that I didn’t hear about this. The EU and TPIY have thoroughly investigated this for years, with huge financial means and resources, and in conclusion there is ZERO EVIDENCE of such horrible thing having ever taken place in Albania or Kosovo. Even Carla Del Ponte said so. See the link below:
http://www.tanjug.rs/news/139169/williamson--no-evidence-of-human-organ-trafficking.htm

Lie Number 4: Serbs are victims of the wars and Kosovo was unjustly taken from Serbia
The truth is that nobody had heard of Kosovo until our army drove more than a million Albanian out of Kosovo to Macedonia and Albania by burning their villages, killing and raping their daughters like in medieval times for no reason but because they were Albanians. Hundreds of young Kosovo girls raped by savage Serbs went to have abortions in Tirana hospitals. Those are well documented by the international bodies and Hague tribunal. There is a big difference between an isolated Albanian rapist you show and our state organized rape by the army. Thousand innocent Kosovo Albanians were also killed by our army.
http://www.icty.org/
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8637611.Albanian_rapist_will_be_deported_after_serving_three_years/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eight-albanian-teenagers-arrested-suspicion-raping-tower-hamlets-girl-1467690

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.

just a thought

pre 9 godina

Maybe he should go on hunger strike to protest. From the picture of him with Putin, he could stand to lose a few pounds so his suit fits!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

What a delusional re****. Wasn't a serbian citizen who started WW1 in the first place. If there is someone who shouldn't be invited is YOU Nikolic.
(rick, 27 October 2014 21:19)

Ehhh talking about delusional rettard, no it wasnt a serbian citizen it was a Bosnian Serb by the name of Gavrilo Princip, a true legend and a hero that assasinated the dictator Franz Ferdinand. He was a part of a group called crna ruka, made up by muslims, croats and serbs, that planned to assasinate the dictator and he was third one to try. They were all lined up through the dictators route through Sarajevo, first the muslim tried and failed, then the croat and finally Gavrilo finished him off. He is and will always be remember like a true HERO.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is right. There was no "Kosovaaah" army at the time so they cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :) So, I guess, Nikolic heard you and understood that since there was no "Serbian" army he cannot possibly rub shoulders with the victors.
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Good on him for not allowing further humiliation of Serbia.
(Peggy, 27 October 2014 20:28)

That's going to go ahead regardless of whether a certain Tomislav attends or not, but it's not about humiliating Serbia. Not sure why you want Serbia to feel humiliated!!!

Twice a Day

pre 9 godina

Time for the mentally disturbed albanian trolls who post here regularly (not the normal ones) to take their meds regualry and be kept away from the Internet.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.

Next time maybe you should try to read the article that your referring to before you try to spread your delusional antiserb propaganda.

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.

boom

pre 9 godina

@ari gold
I am a serb, but just don’t think like you. I am a patriot, I love Serbia. I am no nationalist like you as I don’t think my country is better than the others. For evth bad we were told about Albanians we did much worse. There is no need to denigrate other countries to make us feel better.
I am tired of wars, lies and our state propaganda.
I am tired of being poor, with no prospects for jobs for my kids and a bleak future.
Let me open your eyes about some of big lies we have been told:

Lie number 1: Kosovo is Serbia.
I suggest you read some independent European scholars that study the history of Kosovo without a preconceived nationalistic project.
Read Noel Malcolm’s Kosovo History from Oxford university, you will learn that the truth is far from what we are being told.

Lie Number 2: Albanians breed like rabbits and have families with 10 children.
The fertility rate of Albanians is no different than that that of Serbs. Albania had higher birth rates prior to access to family planning as it did not exist under the communist regime. That was the case for most communist countries at that time, including Serbia.
Fertility rate for Albanian woman since collapse of communism is 1.48 and for Serbia excluding Kosovo is 1.45 children for woman, so tell me please, how are they different from us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Serbia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania

Ratko

pre 9 godina

So many anti-serb internet trolls here what a joke.

What do albans have to do with WW1 or WW2? Oh ya they were best buddies with nazi fascists and hitler. infact albans through their history (since arriving in europe from the mountains around black sea, most likely present day turkey) have always sided with the 'evildoers.'

edi

pre 9 godina

the Balkans is lees evolved than the rest of Europe and that is the sad truth! however Serbia is the lees evolved from all Balkan! I read many time the comments in here and i am so sorry to say but majority of Serbian comments belong to un evolved species! that also apply to this Serbian president! he is un evolved therefore he is in power from the votes of un evolved serbs! i am sure that serbia can have someone better than him! anyway dont coment to me back cause i don't want to go back in time! thx

roberto

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...

Fast Eddie

pre 9 godina

Another joke coming from Belgrade. Few days ago Kosovo's foreign minister was in Belgrade.
(Avni, 27 October 2014 17:25)

You're almost right for once. Your Kosova's* prime minister is an International joke, and not just "Another joke"
as you see him.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)
==============================
First of all stop posing as a Serb. We all know what you are.
Second, if ther was any ethnic cleansing it was Albanians cleansing Serbs for decades before the war and how come there is more of you there now than before if you were the ones cleansed?
I do agree that in every war women get raped. Women are the innocent who get hurt but at the same time do you really think that Serbian women and girls didn't get raped during that war too? Wrong on both sides but at least the honest and conedemn all the same.
Are some victims worth more than others?

roberto

pre 9 godina

Nikolic is an ole Chetnik wacko, no offense. Even normal and thoughtful Serbs will tell you so (not the extremists)> But what everyone has left off is the situation of the Balkan Wars, just preceding ww1, and how Serbian and Montenegrin troops went out of their way to commit atrocities - a foreshadowing of things to come:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Albanians_in_the_Balkan_Wars

follow your own advice

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)
Maybe you should follow your own ADVICE. That was a small part at the end talking about the rumor of rape camps. The article confirmed cases of rapes in 3 areas either on the front lawns of homes while making the family watch, in adjoining rooms, along with ituations where they would stop families trying to flee on the road and tell them if they could not come up with money they would take their daughters and some cases where the Albanian would give money and they would still take their young daughters off and gang rape them.
It was only the rumors of rape camps that was never confirmed at the time by human rights.
Of course I am guessing you actually read all that and just picked that one part to try and make it all seem like a lie.

Moderate albanian

pre 9 godina

As a proud albanian i am sickened and disgusted by the horrible acts of terror committed by my people against the Serbs and other ethnic minorities!
We albanians have never been able to co-exist and live in peace with any of our neighbours. We always play the victim and are never able to take responsibility for our own despicable actions!
I dont understand our obsession with Kosovo. If it is so wonderful, why are we all trying to leave and run to the west?
The truth is that Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian.
We have turned Kosovo into an impoverished naro state where most of our people live in poverty and isolation, whilst our so called "leaders" drive around in expensive cars and live in mansions!
We albanians have been so brain washed by propaganda, nationalism and our own ignorance to see this.
Until we albanians wake up and learn to live in peace with out neighbous then we will always be living in poverty and we'll remain the scum of europe.

rick

pre 9 godina

(Moderate albanian, 29 October 2014 02:52)

If you are Albanian then I am THE Serbian monk .Serbian chetnik crimes are well documented and tops all crimes ever committed since the end of WW2.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Stupid move. If Serbia doesn't recognize Kosovo, then don't recognize them in the room. It shows more class to ignore than to snub. Why should the Kosovo delegation get a chance to it up the buffet table and Toma stays home?

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58
You look up articles on individual Albanians accused of rape to compare as worse than Serb forces organized gang rapes that are government sanctioned.
How pathetic can one person get?

Benji

pre 9 godina

Time for Serbia to make peace with her past and recognize Kosovo as well as make a full apology to Kosovo people for all the atrocities that were committed there by our army in our name. Raping Kosovo Albanian daughters in front of the family...makes me sick to be Serbian and ashamed of our army.
[link]
(boom, 27 October 2014 17:21)

You're not Serbian. Just a committed anti-Serb bigot who thinks that posing as a Serb on the internet will make the case for the organ harvesters seem legitimate. I wouldn't talk about rape as that is an infamous trait of Albanian separatists.
[link]/
[link]
(Ari Gold, 27 October 2014 18:58)

Please watch at these other Milosevic and Serbian propaganda.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=47c_1358622848

http://www.grreporter.info/en/11yearold_bulgarian_girl_raped_and_killed_albanian/3248

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TLI3OHA0CP8TMLKKK

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/denmark/TUU7MC05KQ9TQ06LI

http://www.topix.com/forum/uk/london/TQVUJEVA8P50GNDF6

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/switzerland/T66F6C24QA9Q3KI9J

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Derby-rapist-busted-in-Naugatuck-5719250.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3311967.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000652/Oxford-students-warned-night-Albanian-pervert-strikes-FIVE-times-TEN-days.html

http://goldendawnaus.blogspot.com/2014/05/knife-wielding-albanian-rapist-arrested.html

oberver

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

[link]

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.
(SF Eagle, 28 October 2014 12:25)

what a pathetic comment. I do not see that Roberto in any way wrote anything in this Wikepedia article, and it just states facts, which the serb facists here do not want to hear.

Besides that SF Eagle must be gay himself if he is so intrested in New York Times articles about lonley old gay man. Probably somebody who needs to come out of his closet and finally live a free live.

Bahri

pre 9 godina

He is not going not because Kosovo but he decide to stay home an drink his bottle of Rakia(Vodka)like he did few month ago and Pakistan Ambassador had to help him to go to his car.

Moderate Serb

pre 9 godina

Human Rights Watch said its research did not confirm the allegations that Serbian and Yugoslav forces had set up "rape camps" in Pec or Djakovica. The organization criticized NATO, the U.S. government, and the British government for spreading unconfirmed information about rape while the NATO bombing campaign was underway.
(Daniel, 27 October 2014 23:40)

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

You're not Serbian. And you're not "moderate". It is not moderate to lie and say Serbian Orthodox Churches were used as bases for raping Albanian women. You are trying to justify the case for Albanian vendetta and you think this is modern or moderate?

And I don't know why Albanians like to do this. Like to pose as Serbs on the internet as if someone is going to give them more legitimacy this way. Even the self-hating Serb Danilo Jurisch who comments on here every now and then, not even his self-hatred for his own people gives him enough venom to blatantly lie about things which have absolutely no basis.

Nice try. But you're about as moderate as ISIS. And about as Serbian as Nelson Mandela was.

rote

pre 9 godina

"Moreover," added the statement, "that minority (ethnic Albanians in Kosovo) had no role in the First World War that would place it among the victors and equalize its treatment to that of Serbia."


"Had no role" was much more preferable compared to the role they played in WW2.

sj

pre 9 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 27 October 2014 20:59)

If Boom is Serbian then I’m a Martian. I’m a tad fuzzy on histroy but during which period between 1914 – 1918 did Kosova take part in against the Austrians or Germans? LOL.
These stupid arseholes in Brussels think they will be smart by trying to demean Serbia, which refuses to levy sanctions against Russia, by inviting goat herders to their commemration. Let them have Kosova and its so called symbals but as I said once Ukraine is resolved the Blakans are next then you can pin your Kosova symbals on your backside LOL.
PS hope the Belgium’s hide their silver. Look at what happened to George Bush’s watch.

The word Chetnik is not an insult because even your US friends accept them whereas Albos are expendable, all 10 000 of them.

sj

pre 9 godina

(follow your own advice, 28 October 2014 00:29)

No women should suffer this indignity but sadly rape occurs in all wars and Kosovo was no exception, but Serbs did not have rape camps. These were rumours started by the US as part of their propaganda. I am fascinated that Human Rights Watch, which is a group funded by the US government, came out with such a statment to counter the claims of rape camps. Normally the HRW only confirms whatever Washington proclaims.

njegos

pre 9 godina

Mirel - Why do you continue to comment a Serbian internet site? When you engage someone in a debate or someone tries to engage you in a debate, you run away to another thread. You have no credibility and are ill-equipped to support your positions with any meaningful dialogue. May I suggest that you disappear and quit wasting everyone's time.

truly sad

pre 9 godina

(sj, 28 October 2014 08:37)
I love the Serbian way of thinking, "unfortunately it happens in all wars" so I guess we should pin a medal on every Serb soldier who committed rape in the name of Serbia, after all they did not set up rape camps. But the confusing thing is that in the article it did confirm that Serbs raped the women in detention centers. I have to wonder if you have a detention center or camp and the women are routinely raped by the guards and soldiers, but HRW does not consider this a rape camp, one has to wonder exactly what their definition is?
One has to wonder the caliber of a man who is outraged over turned over tombstones in abandoned cemeteries but thinks rape is just part of war and it is to be expected no big deal!

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)

Throw enough crap at the wall and see what sticks? HAHAHAHAHA

You know we burned down the serb churches in 2004 because we wanted to chase out serbs and their culture and history from Kosova. Just tell the truth man. Your a bad liar.

sj

pre 9 godina

(truly sad, 28 October 2014 14:10)

In my book rape is the lowest act, but it is a fact that during wars there are few rules and some low life always takes advantage of the situation.
My point was not to demean a person who was raped but to point out that the west used rape as a propaganda tool against Serbs both in Bosnia and Kosovo. I saw and heard the wildest claims being made during the Bosnian war. Once such incident was in Switzerland where the Bosniaks were claiming that one of their girls was about to give birth to a baby resulting from rape by a Serb and the young women did give birth to a baby, but it was black so this was quickly hushed up.
If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.

One born every minute

pre 9 godina

Finally a stooge has grown a backbone, keep this up and I may call you mr president
(Goran bogoevski, 28 October 2014 00:26)
By staying home and saying it is because Kosovo is there, he is only creating more exposure for Kosovo and less for Serbia which causes more diplomats to look at Kosovo as a state entity. He is doing nothing for the good of Serbia.

Josip

pre 9 godina

The Serbian economy is going nowhere and tens of thousands of talented young Serbs leave the country every year because there are no opportunities, and this is the most important issue for the President and the genius commenters on this page?!! President Nikolic's statements in the last couple of weeks show that he is better fit to join the ridiculous chat on this page than to be head of state of a country that should be a leader in Europe.

BPP

pre 9 godina

Why is kosovo going anyway?
They played no role in wwI.
They just want exposure and to feel like a country but everyone knows they are not!

Further more look at the role Albania n's played in wwII and supporting Hitler.

SF Eagle

pre 9 godina

roberto is losing it.

He has resorted to writing on Wikipedia and then using his own text as credible information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/booming/a-gay-man-at-midlife-ponders-being-lonely-and-invisible.html?_r=0

It must be tough to be his age, gay and alone. The internet IS his life and serbs are his enemy. Pathetic existence.

ida

pre 9 godina

"WOW, that's a huge loss for the event."

Well Serbia was a major player in WWI - Serbia had the very first allied victory and Serbs suffered the most losses proportionally. They also won at the end.

The Kosovo flag is not historical and took no place in the victory over the Axis powers.

But this commemoration is stupid anyways - they've already had scores of commemoration events. It is the END of the war that should be commemorated, or allied successes, not the beginning.

And again, there is no historical role for the newly-fangled Kosovo flag. It was the Serbian army which pushed the Axis out.

That the Kosovo flag is there shows it is fascist powers in control now, and they are the ones really being all these wars, such as in Ukraine with neo-Nazi symbols and neo-Nazis all over.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?

Ethnic
group census 1948 census 1953 census 1961 census 1971 census 1981 census 1991 census 2011
Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number % Number %
Albanians 498,244 68.5 524,559 64.9 646,605 67.1 916,168 73.7 1,226,736 77.4 1,596,072 81.6 1,616,869 92.9
Serbs 171,911 23.6 189,869 23.5 227,016 23.5 228,264 18.4 209,498 13.2 194,190 9.9 25,532 1.5
Muslims 9,679 1.3 6,241 0.8 8,026 0.8 26,357 2.1 58,562 3.7 66,189 3.4
Bosniaks 27,533 1.6
Gorani 10,265 0.6
Montenegrins 28,050 3.9 31,343 3.9 37,588 3.9 31,555 2.5 27,028 1.7 20,365 1.1
Croats 5,290 0.7 6,201 0.8 7,251 0.8 8,264 0.7 8,718 0.6 8,062 0.4
Yugoslavs 5,206 0.5 920 0.1 2,676 0.2 3,457 0.2
Romani 11,230 1.5 11,904 1.5 3,202 0.3 14.593 1.2 34,126 2.2 45,760 2.3 8,824 0,5
Ashkali 15,436 0.9
Egyptians 11,524 0.6
Turks 1,315 0.2 34,583 4.3 25,764 2.7 12,244 1.0 12,513 0.8 10,445 0.5 18,738 1.1
Macedonians 526 0.1 972 0.1 1,142 0.1 1,048 0.1 1,056 0.1
Others or unspecified 1,577 0.2 2,469 0.3 2,188 0.2 4,280 0.3 3,454 0.2 11,656 0.6 3,264 0.6
Total 727,820 808,141 963,988 1,243,693 1,584,441 1,956,196 1,739,825

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Sure, as there was no "Serbian" army, too :)
(icj1, 27 October 2014 23:44)

What in the blue hell are you talking about? The Kingdom of Serbia was one of the founding members of the Allied Powers in WWI. Look, you formulate more intelligent comments than your more primitive cousins that come on here. But just because you don't sound like a complete moron all the time, doesn't mean you know what the hell you're talking about. In this case, you couldn't be more wrong.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)
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We keep telling you that if you don't like it here go to your own media but you just won't listen. We can't help you if you don't want to help yourself.
BTW, it's promoting rabid Albanian dogs. There is always more of you here than us. Wonder why since you think so little of it.

110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American

pre 9 godina

the truly pathetic thing is how this media insists on promoting chetnik attack dogs. how low they have fallen...
(roberto, 28 October 2014 14:14)

You've been told numerous times that [sic] chetniks saved 432 American airmen plus a number of other allied airmen from the Croat Hitler-worshiping Nazis that most of you Albanians were allies with. You were also told that a statue of Dragoljub Mihailovic was erected in his honor in MY COUNTRY-aka- United States of America.

Those that are identified throughout the world with the human organ harvesting Yellow House and that go around claiming that they are good friends with the White House shouldn't be treating their minorities the way they are. Remember three things though: (1) We know you good now (2) We always--sooner or later--right our wrongs (3) The Western cowboy can't stand ungrateful, dirty-double-crossers.

Cowboy definition of a double-crosser: A professional gunfighter with a two gun rig as worn by Wild Bill Hickok.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RX-l3ruTOE

Cowboy definition of a dirty-double-crosser: Any professional lying sycophant drug dealing, human trafficking, animal molesting and hamboning weasel that crosses the ocean or the desert twice and doesn't bathe even once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Paige

" their last name being Pejić.[2] His mother kept him and his brother in touch with their roots, reminding them of the Battle of Kosovo, but also told them to be proud Americans."

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Unfortunately, it is an open secret amongst the Serb military that many Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo were used to rape Albanian girls and women. It is not known whether this was done with the permission of the Serb clergy. This is probably why it was difficult to confirm rape camps existed in Kosovo during the war in 1999. Perhaps this is the reason why particular Orthodox churches in Kosovo were targeted in retaliation during the riots of 2004.
(Moderate Serb, 28 October 2014 17:58)
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To the moderate Serb, sorry, I meant to say rabid Albanian,
If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
The stories just keep getting wilder and wilder.

sj

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein

marKo

pre 9 godina

Given that there was a recent visit to Belgrade I could not figure out what the motivation was behind this. This is my Theory

Because there are no talks scheduled with Pristina while Pristina sorts out the last election, there is no big danger of upseting talks or the EU. Meanwhile with the EU backed austerity plans coming into force in Serbia, and likely Albania, it is very convenient for the government to distract people from thinking about the quality of life in the country.

Regular people, who were poor to begin with are about to become poorer, and the governments of Albania and Serbia are playing tricks on their people.

This is a dangerous game and it should end.

Agree

pre 9 godina

President Nikolic should not bother going even if the Kosovan delegation is not there. The room will still be full of liars, cheats, undesirables and misfits!!

Walter

pre 9 godina

This is weird because i remember there as a regional meeting a few weeks ago where Dacic participated and there was an obvious Kosovo flag there.... I think it's a personal problem with Nikolic because Vucic and Dacic don't seem to care but Nikolic is having a hard time transforming his 60-year-old nationalistic rotten mind into a modern one. I'm not Albanian, but common, just go and ignore the flag, i mean, think about it.... in Rio2016 Kosovo will participate in the olympic games, will we boycott it then? Let's be rational. Either way we are never getting Kosovo back and frankly, do you really want to have a southern province with a crazy bunch of 1.6 million Albanians? 18% of the population of Serbia will be Albanian in that case!! We are definitely stronger, richer and more prosperous without them.

against hate

pre 9 godina

@ari Gold
every time you comment here you make a fool of yourself. Your redicules comments do not refelect what Serbians in general think, they reflect fringe nationlist, fascist thinking and in their one-sided hate show what kind of a person you are. You disqualify yourself every time you open your mouth.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia can demand Kosovo Serbs vote on ballots with republic of kosovo central Comission logo but cant go to Belgium because Kosovo logos will be on display? Kosovo Serbs are fine with republic of Kosovo logos and swearing loyalty oaths to Kosovo. What's the problem? What's going on? Remember that rakic had to replace pantic who couldn't sign the rok oath?

good luck

pre 9 godina

(110% offspring of Mitchell Paige (Pejic) lineage and 110% proud American, 29 October 2014 00:08
Its nice that they allow you computer access in whatever institution you reside, probably some type of therapy design. Good luck I am 110% sure you need a while longer before release though.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If this even had a minute amount of truth in it I am sure it would have been plastered all over western media by now.
(Peggy, 28 October 2014 22:46)

So you are implying that the Western media tells the truth! Are you sure you are a Serb?! No Serb would ever imply that... Come on, admit it - you also are an Albanian in disguise :)

Brian

pre 9 godina

Why not just say the clergy also participated in the rapes. Like monk solider monk soldier or something? If they were so happy and willing to turn churches into rape centers why Wouldn't they participate?

icj1

pre 9 godina

If HRW did confirm that women were raped in centres on mass then I repeat my earlier statement, HRW is only doing what masters tells it. However, it’s funny how HRW never mentioned the numerous incidents of rape by US soldiers in Iraq.
(sj, 29 October 2014 05:45)

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Hey Boom is it still a lie that albanians breed like rabbits?
(Daniel, 29 October 2014 19:41)

Well, let's say that albanians breed like rabbits... And what's the problem with that? It's certainly not a crime :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

No need to deal with what HRW says. It's sufficient to see what the UN says since the Serbs themselves love the UN so much.
(icj1, 29 October 2014 19:37)

Ahh the AE, the answer to a question no one ever asked.
P.S AE = Albanian Einstein
(sj, 30 October 2014 09:40)

Haha, no problem mate since, in any case, you quoted the wrong post - I did not answer any question. But I'm ready to help you find the actual post with an "answer to a question no one ever asked" so that your valuable time in writing the post above is not wasted.

Anyway, I'm honored I got a chance to be quoted by the CE of B92 forums sj in person :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist