NATO states are supplying Ukraine with weapons - minister

They have been supplying arms for 3-4 months already. Be it Hungarian and Polish tanks , Polish and Romanian planes and pilots, Hundreds of American and Polish private armies , Canadian equipment ect. The news is that Geletey and Lutsenko opened it while NATO countries still deny.

Next they will tell the truth about hundreds of the Dudaev kind Chechens from all EU states that fight in AZOV and AIDAR battalions. Geletey is an ex-policeman with IQ level close to Arn. Sweden and Rocky. This is why he revealed things that only Russians and Ukrainians knew. For Europe it may be a scandal.

Another scandal is the exchange of the prisoners of war. Kiev returns mostly crippled men while greater part of the caprured are already killed or tortured to death. It’s one of the reason why we have 8 times more prisoners than the Nazi.

No doubt that we are in the very early stage of the war the USA and it puppets are launching against us. Goebbels called it total war. Now they use words like hybrid warfare but the sense is the same. It will be a long long war to exhaust both sides and the whole world will be involved. All who automatically give me POOR COMMENTS and all the rest.

Finally I am afraid the ceasefire will end soon because Kiev’s gang increase their fire every day. Seems that they have no more alive prisoners of war …

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

http://www.km.ru/world/2014/09/15/katastrofa-malaiziiskogo-boinga-pod-donetskom/748474-neudobnye-fakty-krusheniya-boi

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

[link]
(rote, 15 September 2014 14:44)


Oh Righteous One,
Why the need to mention the color of a man's skin? What will you claim next, that he is Muslim!I
I've noticed when you have no legitimate argument, your retort has racist undertones, especially when it comes to someone of the Jewish faith. You love to point out which people are Jews. Why is that, other than to rile up other anti-semites in your homeland as well as elsewhere.

Btw, the only reason some written materials are in Russian is because Russia has always been revisionist, so why change now. The printing presses in Russia must be running 24 hours a day in order to keep up with Putin's whims and therefore, attempt to rewrite history.

Fair is fair. If the Russians have been supplying the separatists with tanks, rocket launchers, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons etc. then should the Western countries feel the need to send weapons to the Ukrainian government forces be allowed to do so. Nihil nuovo sub sole, this is the standard in all proxy wars, especially seen during the Cold War when NATO and Warsaw Pact supplied their respective sympathizers in every proxy conflict.

In an ideal world, neither Russia nor NATO should be supplying either side with weapons that only serve to escalate the conflict, but we do not live in an ideal world and geopolitics are in play here, where such clandestine suppliers of arms and armament are a necessity, despite that both sides openly deny it.

There is a massive gray area in this war that cannot really be controlled and that is the flow of volunteers, mercenaries and weapons into the conflict zone on both sides, of which both sides are clearly guilty of supporting either directly or indirectly. Such is imperialism and the concept of divide et impera.

IDIOCY !.

Russia will win every scenario and the Kievans only sacrifices their lives for a lost Western cause.

Russia will show them Ku--tz.

Arn.Sweden.

Croatians will be sending 14 transport helicopters with laitest anti missel defences with western avionics. Also a squadren of attack helicopters and mounds of weapons with amunition we took off the defeated Serbs. Also S-300 missels and much more paid by the EU also NATO. To stop the crazy criminal KGB murderer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sx2YmSXDy8 Putin and the communist infested KGB Kremlin. Just to bad that civillians have to suffer the idiotic criminal mad "men".

(rote, 15 September 2014 10:49
While I probably disagree with 99% of what you post, I still enjoy reading it as it gives a perspective of the Russian propaganda machines versus the western propaganda machines.
While finding the truth may be difficult. You do see negative publishing against the western governments in press, where you do not see it in the Russian press.

Who told that I am here to gather likes ? Sometimes the truth is bitter and I just offer you other than the American viewing of some events. I am sure that most Russians feel or think almost the same. When I post something I already know who will give me their POOR COMMENTS but it does not stop me. My task is to make your panorama wider. I was the first to tell things that you do not like to hear but later western mass media have to do the same. Because they cannot lie all the time. I was the first to tell here that Ukrowerhmaht is losing the war. I was the first to tell of who has destroyed the Boeing ect. If you like it or not but NATO is losing Ukraine.

Their initial plan to make us pay for their fascist regime is also ruined. So they are at a loss. Because they have no money to keep it up. They loan money only to have their % back. Former Ukraine owes Russia total USD 38 Bln. all Russian press is anti-western because even western agents of influence sitting there are scared to open their mouths. Sunday elections showed that liberasts has lost even those 2-3% they had enjoyed here. Russia becomes a monolith and sanctions only untie our hands to get rid of the ropes America tied us during Yeltsin. Yes we have problems with our currency and economics but it won’t stop Russia. See you in Uzhgorod. Follow events in our Moldova and remember who told it to you first !

Croatians will be sending 14 transport helicopters with laitest anti missel defences with western avionics. Also a squadren of attack helicopters and mounds of weapons with amunition we took off the defeated Serbs. Also S-300 missels and much more paid by the EU also NATO. To stop the crazy criminal KGB murderer [link] Putin and the communist infested KGB Kremlin. Just to bad that civillians have to suffer the idiotic criminal mad "men".
(Lenard, 15 September 2014 17:51)

I hear that Ukraine is suffering an acute shortage of Kroatian BS. Maybe you could double production to help out.

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

[link]
(rote, 15 September 2014 14:44)

Sometimes you post something that makes me think you might not be a troll....but then you go and post a link to the most ridiculous site I have ever seen....MH17 was cut up with hydraulic shears at another site and dropped from a transport plane with old corpses? are you for real?


LOLOLOLOL. Is this what they tell you in Russia? This site is only in Russian because the translators died of laughter when they tried to read it. Anyone who believes anything from that link is as dumb as a box of rocks whether they are Russian or not

Yes we have problems with our currency and economics but it won’t stop Russia.
(rote, 16 September 2014 09:30)

That's like saying, not eating won't stop you from walking... Good luck mate with proving that theory :)

Peter

“In an ideal world … “

I love this permanent trend in your posts Peter. But we have to live in the world of contradictions, hypocrisy and cruelty. As if some witch is cornering us. The US is warmongering because otherwise it cannot exist. Russia too has little maneuver as it will disintegrate if it becomes an ordinary country. This we cannot afford. I have never been to Vladivostok and I am not going to visit it. But I follow the wide scale drills and consider it same as Moscow , Donetsk , Minsk or Kursk. And most Russians feel the same. The only land I do not take close is Kaliningrad. It is "German" land we were granted.

Today the biggest problem is that Russia won’t surrender while America cannot afford even one really independent state on this globe. From military point China is weak and neither it has the will to resist. So for the time being we are allies. Next year India and Pakistan will join us ect. Thus there can be two big blocks in the years to come. In the circumstances Russia has to conduct the US “our son-of-a-bitch” politics and pull together all who hates the west. No matter how they smell even N.Korea and Zimbabwe. It will be a long run …

I hear that Ukraine is suffering an acute shortage of Kroatian BS. Maybe you could double production to help out.
(sj, 16 September 2014 10:46) Well little microscopic sj it is true. Croatians will be getting for every one of those helicopters 1.5 western made helicopters. The only ones that spew criminal BS is Serbia and Russia that broke the longest peace Europe has ever had. Croatia is one of the cure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK57cWMOTKM for the Serbian and Russian war criminalety. As we are world profesional police http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyg-lqH7YdM in Sudan ,Afganistan ,Iraq ,Somolia ,Chad etc.

To -(fjosjf, 15 September 2014 20:30).

I Quote -

While finding the truth may be difficult.

Comment -

The Truth is wery Simple to understand -

"Why attacking and Murdering the Russians in Eastern Ukraine - ? -
leave them in Peace" !

If They dont - the attackers fighting for the West will lose everything -
and rightly so !.

Arn.Sweden.

All lies ...as usual

(Lenard, 16 September 2014 16:53)
Wow. Hey Moscow and Belgrade be afraid, very afraid. Kroatia is getting helicopters and Lenard is the pilot.
The only thing professional amongst Kroatians is their BS. .

How is tourist season going? Are they swimming in the streets of Dubrovnik?

They have been supplying arms for 3-4 months already. Be it Hungarian and Polish tanks , Polish and Romanian planes and pilots, Hundreds of American and Polish private armies , Canadian equipment ect. The news is that Geletey and Lutsenko opened it while NATO countries still deny.

Next they will tell the truth about hundreds of the Dudaev kind Chechens from all EU states that fight in AZOV and AIDAR battalions. Geletey is an ex-policeman with IQ level close to Arn. Sweden and Rocky. This is why he revealed things that only Russians and Ukrainians knew. For Europe it may be a scandal.

Another scandal is the exchange of the prisoners of war. Kiev returns mostly crippled men while greater part of the caprured are already killed or tortured to death. It’s one of the reason why we have 8 times more prisoners than the Nazi.

No doubt that we are in the very early stage of the war the USA and it puppets are launching against us. Goebbels called it total war. Now they use words like hybrid warfare but the sense is the same. It will be a long long war to exhaust both sides and the whole world will be involved. All who automatically give me POOR COMMENTS and all the rest.

Finally I am afraid the ceasefire will end soon because Kiev’s gang increase their fire every day. Seems that they have no more alive prisoners of war …

Croatians will be sending 14 transport helicopters with laitest anti missel defences with western avionics. Also a squadren of attack helicopters and mounds of weapons with amunition we took off the defeated Serbs. Also S-300 missels and much more paid by the EU also NATO. To stop the crazy criminal KGB murderer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sx2YmSXDy8 Putin and the communist infested KGB Kremlin. Just to bad that civillians have to suffer the idiotic criminal mad "men".

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

[link]
(rote, 15 September 2014 14:44)


Oh Righteous One,
Why the need to mention the color of a man's skin? What will you claim next, that he is Muslim!I
I've noticed when you have no legitimate argument, your retort has racist undertones, especially when it comes to someone of the Jewish faith. You love to point out which people are Jews. Why is that, other than to rile up other anti-semites in your homeland as well as elsewhere.

Btw, the only reason some written materials are in Russian is because Russia has always been revisionist, so why change now. The printing presses in Russia must be running 24 hours a day in order to keep up with Putin's whims and therefore, attempt to rewrite history.

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

http://www.km.ru/world/2014/09/15/katastrofa-malaiziiskogo-boinga-pod-donetskom/748474-neudobnye-fakty-krusheniya-boi

Fair is fair. If the Russians have been supplying the separatists with tanks, rocket launchers, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons etc. then should the Western countries feel the need to send weapons to the Ukrainian government forces be allowed to do so. Nihil nuovo sub sole, this is the standard in all proxy wars, especially seen during the Cold War when NATO and Warsaw Pact supplied their respective sympathizers in every proxy conflict.

In an ideal world, neither Russia nor NATO should be supplying either side with weapons that only serve to escalate the conflict, but we do not live in an ideal world and geopolitics are in play here, where such clandestine suppliers of arms and armament are a necessity, despite that both sides openly deny it.

There is a massive gray area in this war that cannot really be controlled and that is the flow of volunteers, mercenaries and weapons into the conflict zone on both sides, of which both sides are clearly guilty of supporting either directly or indirectly. Such is imperialism and the concept of divide et impera.

Who told that I am here to gather likes ? Sometimes the truth is bitter and I just offer you other than the American viewing of some events. I am sure that most Russians feel or think almost the same. When I post something I already know who will give me their POOR COMMENTS but it does not stop me. My task is to make your panorama wider. I was the first to tell things that you do not like to hear but later western mass media have to do the same. Because they cannot lie all the time. I was the first to tell here that Ukrowerhmaht is losing the war. I was the first to tell of who has destroyed the Boeing ect. If you like it or not but NATO is losing Ukraine.

Their initial plan to make us pay for their fascist regime is also ruined. So they are at a loss. Because they have no money to keep it up. They loan money only to have their % back. Former Ukraine owes Russia total USD 38 Bln. all Russian press is anti-western because even western agents of influence sitting there are scared to open their mouths. Sunday elections showed that liberasts has lost even those 2-3% they had enjoyed here. Russia becomes a monolith and sanctions only untie our hands to get rid of the ropes America tied us during Yeltsin. Yes we have problems with our currency and economics but it won’t stop Russia. See you in Uzhgorod. Follow events in our Moldova and remember who told it to you first !

Croatians will be sending 14 transport helicopters with laitest anti missel defences with western avionics. Also a squadren of attack helicopters and mounds of weapons with amunition we took off the defeated Serbs. Also S-300 missels and much more paid by the EU also NATO. To stop the crazy criminal KGB murderer [link] Putin and the communist infested KGB Kremlin. Just to bad that civillians have to suffer the idiotic criminal mad "men".
(Lenard, 15 September 2014 17:51)

I hear that Ukraine is suffering an acute shortage of Kroatian BS. Maybe you could double production to help out.

IDIOCY !.

Russia will win every scenario and the Kievans only sacrifices their lives for a lost Western cause.

Russia will show them Ku--tz.

Arn.Sweden.

(rote, 15 September 2014 10:49
While I probably disagree with 99% of what you post, I still enjoy reading it as it gives a perspective of the Russian propaganda machines versus the western propaganda machines.
While finding the truth may be difficult. You do see negative publishing against the western governments in press, where you do not see it in the Russian press.

Peter

“In an ideal world … “

I love this permanent trend in your posts Peter. But we have to live in the world of contradictions, hypocrisy and cruelty. As if some witch is cornering us. The US is warmongering because otherwise it cannot exist. Russia too has little maneuver as it will disintegrate if it becomes an ordinary country. This we cannot afford. I have never been to Vladivostok and I am not going to visit it. But I follow the wide scale drills and consider it same as Moscow , Donetsk , Minsk or Kursk. And most Russians feel the same. The only land I do not take close is Kaliningrad. It is "German" land we were granted.

Today the biggest problem is that Russia won’t surrender while America cannot afford even one really independent state on this globe. From military point China is weak and neither it has the will to resist. So for the time being we are allies. Next year India and Pakistan will join us ect. Thus there can be two big blocks in the years to come. In the circumstances Russia has to conduct the US “our son-of-a-bitch” politics and pull together all who hates the west. No matter how they smell even N.Korea and Zimbabwe. It will be a long run …

To -(fjosjf, 15 September 2014 20:30).

I Quote -

While finding the truth may be difficult.

Comment -

The Truth is wery Simple to understand -

"Why attacking and Murdering the Russians in Eastern Ukraine - ? -
leave them in Peace" !

If They dont - the attackers fighting for the West will lose everything -
and rightly so !.

Arn.Sweden.

All lies ...as usual

I hear that Ukraine is suffering an acute shortage of Kroatian BS. Maybe you could double production to help out.
(sj, 16 September 2014 10:46) Well little microscopic sj it is true. Croatians will be getting for every one of those helicopters 1.5 western made helicopters. The only ones that spew criminal BS is Serbia and Russia that broke the longest peace Europe has ever had. Croatia is one of the cure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK57cWMOTKM for the Serbian and Russian war criminalety. As we are world profesional police http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyg-lqH7YdM in Sudan ,Afganistan ,Iraq ,Somolia ,Chad etc.

(Lenard, 16 September 2014 16:53)
Wow. Hey Moscow and Belgrade be afraid, very afraid. Kroatia is getting helicopters and Lenard is the pilot.
The only thing professional amongst Kroatians is their BS. .

How is tourist season going? Are they swimming in the streets of Dubrovnik?

MH-17 mystics and non-fitments, dozens of them ! Unfortunately such materials can be found only in Russian because we are the only side interested to reveal the truth. But if you use web to translate you will be shocked of the evidence and the questions arising. The Evil has lost any brakes ! I do not mean the brown skin clown but the state he is heading.

[link]
(rote, 15 September 2014 14:44)

Sometimes you post something that makes me think you might not be a troll....but then you go and post a link to the most ridiculous site I have ever seen....MH17 was cut up with hydraulic shears at another site and dropped from a transport plane with old corpses? are you for real?


LOLOLOLOL. Is this what they tell you in Russia? This site is only in Russian because the translators died of laughter when they tried to read it. Anyone who believes anything from that link is as dumb as a box of rocks whether they are Russian or not

Yes we have problems with our currency and economics but it won’t stop Russia.
(rote, 16 September 2014 09:30)

That's like saying, not eating won't stop you from walking... Good luck mate with proving that theory :)