Dodik: Future of RS is to be unified with Serbia

Simply put, Dodik is a 2-bit fascist. They call him a paper tiger, but after the 90s, we.ve learned that even the most promitive Balkan types can be the most dangerous. He and the Belgrade regime(s) make a perfect match, hiding and thriving off the genocide they perpetrated...

Roberto seems to be flitting from one specialist subject to another but doesn't seem to know what the word genocide means. He's currently surfacing on every forum on B93/eng distributing his wise words of wisdom. It's you who's the fascist my friend ( and I use that term very loosely), your anti-Serbian rhetoric is very reminiscent of that used by Ante Pavelic to justify what he then perpetrated as a genocide. Now that WAS genocide. The Serbians fought a war of self preservation in the 1990s and to compare it to the deeds of the Ustashe is fanciful and insulting. You need to read your history Rob. Better still see if President Dodik has some time to give you a few lessons.

The fact that RS could join Serbia in the future, will benefit Serbia and Federation of Bosnia as well. Basically it's the most natural solution after almost 20 years from the end of the war.

Peggy, the Illyrian territories reached all the way to Slovenia. Illyria is ancient "Albania". In fact, we use Shqiperia, which means land of the eagles. Illyria comes from Ilir, which means to be free. Also before you give me that Caucasus argument, just remember that that idea is obsolete because there is no DNA connecting us and the Caucasians and there is no evidence that there was a mass migration to Albania. The only mass migration was the Slav one when Serbs came from Northern Europe and Slavicized the Illyrians from Slovenia to Montenegro. Also, our halpogroup is E-V13, which is right where the Albanian territories are.

Ks,
You have to realize something...not all Illyrians were ancient Albanians. Illyrians constituted of many tribes and clans and were subdivided into such. Think of it as saying 2000 years from now that you're a descendant from Europeans. Great, but not ALL Europeans would be your ancestors. Well, not ALL Illyrians are ancestors of Albanians. Just like not all descendants from the Roman empire were Roman. There's a tribe called Arber, also known as Albanoi, and that's where the term Albanian was born from. Look here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Albani150ADRomanEmpire.png you will see that the area they came from is today's modern day Albania.

So as you will note, Albanians were not from Slovenia, to Bulgaria, to Greece, on through Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, and modern day Albania. That's only believed and taught in backward Albanian schools by fanatics. They take a general term, like Illyrians, show the areas they lived in (which were the Balkans), and teach everyone those are our ancestors and those are our lands. These teachings forget to mention that Illyrians were made up from several different tribes and clans much like Europe, Africa, and Asia, North, Central, and South America are. You can claim to be 'Asian', however there are different 'Asians'. So while Albanians descended from Illyrians, it's which tribe? The one they got their name from obviously, and that tribe didn't occupy the whole Balkans, but roughly modern day Albania.

He and the Belgrade regime(s) make a perfect match, hiding and thriving off the genocide they perpetrated...
(roberto, 5 September 2014 21:28)

Not that I have any loyalty to regimes in the Balkans at all, but it seems to me what you are saying is anyone who is a Serb is a fascist as you put it and perpetrated some genocide. I don't know what genocide you are referring to, probably because it never happened. But I can tell you of multiple genocides had to endure in their history. The "Independent State of Croatia" and the terror they brought to Serbs, Jews and Roma comes to mind. The cultural genocide and slow-paced systematic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo i Metohija that began not in the 90s but during communism also comes to mind.

But see almost 50% of Bosnia doesn't consider themselves Bosnian but rather Serbian or Croatian. You can't artificially create new nations and keep them super glued forever. As Western funding decreased in Bosnia, so did any idea of a common "Bosnian" identity between the three constituent peoples. Because it's artificial to begin with and the West cant afford doing sh*t like this any more.

Yes, Mr. Dodik, natural - as natural as Kurti's 'natural Albania'
(Comm. Parrison, 5 September 2014 17:39)
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You certainly cannot compare the two.
When in history did Albnaians have the lands they want? Can you please show us some proof that they actually had those lands and then we can talk about similarity between the two.
On the other hand, Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more, while Albanians will have to steal from others.

Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more, while Albanians will have to steal from others.
(Peggy, 7 September 2014 01:57)
Peggy, serbian, albanien or independent historiens have different opinions about that. Fact is, that Serbs and Albaniens lived more or less peacefully in what is Kosovo now for hundreds of years. Serbia never ruled over that region as well over hundreds of years. You can't use the argument that this once was serbian territory in the middle ages to justify that it has to be serbian again.
If other countries would do tha same, mankind would have already ceased to exist, because of wars fought over lost territory in the past. If Germany for instance would use that argument, the Germany would claim the rights to parts of Poland (Schlesien), Czech Republic (Sudenland), Russia(Eastern Prussia), France(Elsass Loraine), and more. Germans were the majority in these regions for hundreds of years as well, and nobody gets the idea to get them back again, or to claim that they belong to Germany.
Just think. What are you going to do with the Albaniens who live there now, that would not put up with a serbian rule ever again. You would have to use ethnic cleasnsing once more, or kill them all control Kosovo. I am sure that you do not want that either. Coexistance and mutual acceptance is the only solution, and that implies recognition and the right to live peacefully together

Without ZG & SA consent, the RS have no chance of joining Serbia. If Dodo wants his little RS to become independent he needs to understand that freedom comes out from the end of a barrel. The Balkans is no Czechoslavkia. If Dodo wants further bloodshead, be my guest. BL will be no more !

On the other hand, Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more.
(Peggy, 7 September 2014 01:57)

Peggy, like the Dodo bird, has laid a big egg. The ignorance exhibited by both is beyond repair. Any effort at educating them will not correct the misconceptions and delusions of these dyed in the wool Chetniks. They even refuse listening to reputable Serb historians, such as M. Djilas, concerning the origins of the Serb people.

As he said, the RS will recognize and know what the interest of Serbia is, as he is convinced that Serbia recognizes what is in the interest of the RS, and navigate the future by building peace, "because it is natural."

Yes, Mr. Dodik, natural - as natural as Kurti's 'natural Albania'

As he said, the RS will recognize and know what the interest of Serbia is, as he is convinced that Serbia recognizes what is in the interest of the RS, and navigate the future by building peace, "because it is natural."

Yes, Mr. Dodik, natural - as natural as Kurti's 'natural Albania'

Simply put, Dodik is a 2-bit fascist. They call him a paper tiger, but after the 90s, we.ve learned that even the most promitive Balkan types can be the most dangerous. He and the Belgrade regime(s) make a perfect match, hiding and thriving off the genocide they perpetrated...

Yes, Mr. Dodik, natural - as natural as Kurti's 'natural Albania'
(Comm. Parrison, 5 September 2014 17:39)
============================
You certainly cannot compare the two.
When in history did Albnaians have the lands they want? Can you please show us some proof that they actually had those lands and then we can talk about similarity between the two.
On the other hand, Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more, while Albanians will have to steal from others.

He and the Belgrade regime(s) make a perfect match, hiding and thriving off the genocide they perpetrated...
(roberto, 5 September 2014 21:28)

Not that I have any loyalty to regimes in the Balkans at all, but it seems to me what you are saying is anyone who is a Serb is a fascist as you put it and perpetrated some genocide. I don't know what genocide you are referring to, probably because it never happened. But I can tell you of multiple genocides had to endure in their history. The "Independent State of Croatia" and the terror they brought to Serbs, Jews and Roma comes to mind. The cultural genocide and slow-paced systematic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo i Metohija that began not in the 90s but during communism also comes to mind.

But see almost 50% of Bosnia doesn't consider themselves Bosnian but rather Serbian or Croatian. You can't artificially create new nations and keep them super glued forever. As Western funding decreased in Bosnia, so did any idea of a common "Bosnian" identity between the three constituent peoples. Because it's artificial to begin with and the West cant afford doing sh*t like this any more.

The fact that RS could join Serbia in the future, will benefit Serbia and Federation of Bosnia as well. Basically it's the most natural solution after almost 20 years from the end of the war.

Roberto seems to be flitting from one specialist subject to another but doesn't seem to know what the word genocide means. He's currently surfacing on every forum on B93/eng distributing his wise words of wisdom. It's you who's the fascist my friend ( and I use that term very loosely), your anti-Serbian rhetoric is very reminiscent of that used by Ante Pavelic to justify what he then perpetrated as a genocide. Now that WAS genocide. The Serbians fought a war of self preservation in the 1990s and to compare it to the deeds of the Ustashe is fanciful and insulting. You need to read your history Rob. Better still see if President Dodik has some time to give you a few lessons.

Peggy, the Illyrian territories reached all the way to Slovenia. Illyria is ancient "Albania". In fact, we use Shqiperia, which means land of the eagles. Illyria comes from Ilir, which means to be free. Also before you give me that Caucasus argument, just remember that that idea is obsolete because there is no DNA connecting us and the Caucasians and there is no evidence that there was a mass migration to Albania. The only mass migration was the Slav one when Serbs came from Northern Europe and Slavicized the Illyrians from Slovenia to Montenegro. Also, our halpogroup is E-V13, which is right where the Albanian territories are.

Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more, while Albanians will have to steal from others.
(Peggy, 7 September 2014 01:57)
Peggy, serbian, albanien or independent historiens have different opinions about that. Fact is, that Serbs and Albaniens lived more or less peacefully in what is Kosovo now for hundreds of years. Serbia never ruled over that region as well over hundreds of years. You can't use the argument that this once was serbian territory in the middle ages to justify that it has to be serbian again.
If other countries would do tha same, mankind would have already ceased to exist, because of wars fought over lost territory in the past. If Germany for instance would use that argument, the Germany would claim the rights to parts of Poland (Schlesien), Czech Republic (Sudenland), Russia(Eastern Prussia), France(Elsass Loraine), and more. Germans were the majority in these regions for hundreds of years as well, and nobody gets the idea to get them back again, or to claim that they belong to Germany.
Just think. What are you going to do with the Albaniens who live there now, that would not put up with a serbian rule ever again. You would have to use ethnic cleasnsing once more, or kill them all control Kosovo. I am sure that you do not want that either. Coexistance and mutual acceptance is the only solution, and that implies recognition and the right to live peacefully together

Without ZG & SA consent, the RS have no chance of joining Serbia. If Dodo wants his little RS to become independent he needs to understand that freedom comes out from the end of a barrel. The Balkans is no Czechoslavkia. If Dodo wants further bloodshead, be my guest. BL will be no more !

On the other hand, Serbs have always lived on the lands they occupy now and more.
Serbs would only have what is theirs and nothing more.
(Peggy, 7 September 2014 01:57)

Peggy, like the Dodo bird, has laid a big egg. The ignorance exhibited by both is beyond repair. Any effort at educating them will not correct the misconceptions and delusions of these dyed in the wool Chetniks. They even refuse listening to reputable Serb historians, such as M. Djilas, concerning the origins of the Serb people.

Ks,
You have to realize something...not all Illyrians were ancient Albanians. Illyrians constituted of many tribes and clans and were subdivided into such. Think of it as saying 2000 years from now that you're a descendant from Europeans. Great, but not ALL Europeans would be your ancestors. Well, not ALL Illyrians are ancestors of Albanians. Just like not all descendants from the Roman empire were Roman. There's a tribe called Arber, also known as Albanoi, and that's where the term Albanian was born from. Look here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Albani150ADRomanEmpire.png you will see that the area they came from is today's modern day Albania.

So as you will note, Albanians were not from Slovenia, to Bulgaria, to Greece, on through Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, and modern day Albania. That's only believed and taught in backward Albanian schools by fanatics. They take a general term, like Illyrians, show the areas they lived in (which were the Balkans), and teach everyone those are our ancestors and those are our lands. These teachings forget to mention that Illyrians were made up from several different tribes and clans much like Europe, Africa, and Asia, North, Central, and South America are. You can claim to be 'Asian', however there are different 'Asians'. So while Albanians descended from Illyrians, it's which tribe? The one they got their name from obviously, and that tribe didn't occupy the whole Balkans, but roughly modern day Albania.