Serbia, Canada call for urgent end of Ukrainian conflict

Why is Dacic receiving these people who bombed us for literally no reason and did nothing to help us get off the floor. Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever. It sickens me to see us sucking up to these people who claim to be our friends, when they have shown to be anything of the sort. What, for trade of 40 million peanuts.

Yes New Brunswick , it is. What with the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world that escaped Ukraine after WW2 after being Nazi sympathisers and fearing retribution, you most certainly are.

Dear B92
maybe your title is a little deceveing...
Canada is the most hawkysh of all the NATO countries regarding Ukraine..
just asked to send arms and tanks ...

{Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić met on Monday with Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird and noted that the two countries have "excellent relations" but that economic cooperation "needs to be developed further."}

Is he lying or what? Canada recognized Kosovo and is one of the biggest supporters of Ukraine. Canadian government daily accused Russia of invading Ukraine.

Canada sending military supplies to Ukraine for border security
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-sending-military-equipment-to-ukraine-for-border-security/article19952287/

Why is Dacic receiving these people who bombed us for literally no reason and did nothing to help us get off the floor. Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever. It sickens me to see us sucking up to these people who claim to be our friends, when they have shown to be anything of the sort. What, for trade of 40 million peanuts.
(Stan, 1 September 2014 17:47)

You meet with sides that you don't always agree with on everything. Not saying Dhaciq gives a damn about who bombed Serbia or who is at least on paper supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija.

However it's important for Serbia to boost trade in every corner of the world in order to diversify from relying on investments coming from the EU. Europe is right now the only continent on the planet that is not economically growing. This is a trend that will not reverse any time soon.

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia. It's important for these trade ties to grow regardless of what they have done. Also expanding ties to China, India, Israel, UAE.... anything to get the hell away from the crumbling EUSSR which has already seen its best days.

The conflict ends wery easily - Ukraine just chease its assault against the Russian population in eastern Ukraine !.

Arn.Sweden.

@ Luigi:

Are you sure that my country is being the most hawkish when it comes to the Russo/Ukrainian conflict??

• Estimated combat losses of the two sides are 43 027.

• Malorossia’s losses are 27 888 of killed and wounded , 1649 captured and 13 500 as deserted and lost.

• Novorossia lost above 15 000 of wounded , captured and killed mostly civilians

• Mothers east of Dnieper demand stop the war while mothers in the west of former Ukraine demand better arms …

• Traditionally USA is the biggest gainer of the war while Canada and Poland are the most outstanding mad dogs of the USA.

• Poland goes as a matter of fact while Canada is surprising every day. Now they for the first time seek for peace … Last week they delivered two big planes of ammunition to Kharkov.


http://www.novorossia.org/news/7167-obschie-poteri-ukrainy-na-donbasse-so-2-maya-po-31-avgusta-2014.html

@Jeff:

I am most certainly what?? Judging by you comments you do realize that I don't have the same exact way of thinking like all other Canadians if you know what I mean.

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45
Love to read your posts, you give such an authoritative response without ever knowing what it is you are talking about.
I looked at population of Serbs and got surprising results. Of course those from Serbian sources were astronomically higher than those of non Serbian sources. For instance Wikipedia (not the best source to use) says the US has 199,000 Serbs Canada 80,000 and Australia 69,000. Huge difference in numbers.
Looked further and found a (Serbian) source that gave the Serb population alone as 500,000. But when I researched census it shows that Chicago has a population of about 2.7 million so that would mean that Serbs comprise almost 19% of the population of Chicago.
Digging a little further according to census "White only non Hispanic" which I would imagine most Serbs would put themselves in, comprises 32% of the population or 853,000. So this source is saying that 59% of the white people in Chicago is Serbian-kind of doubt that is possible.
Lesson learned: Serbs not your best source of numbers.
I also love how some of you refer to the EUSSR a derogatory term to compare the EU to the former USSR, while wanting to push Serbia away from it toward Russia the original USSR and home of the future Putin USSR.

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That many Serbs in the evil West?! What the hell are they doing there?! Where is the patriotism?! Why don't they move to the Russian, Chinese or Indian paradises just to make a point in regards to patriotism?!
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It's important for these trade ties to grow regardless of what they have done. Also expanding ties to China, India, Israel, UAE.... anything to get the hell away from the crumbling EUSSR which has already seen its best days.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Well, there is some contradiction between the first and second sentence above. Which one do you pick?!

Russia is not occupying anything in Ukraine. This is just an idle fantasy. Are they talking about Crimea? Sorry, Crimea is not even available for discussion, it never belonged to Ukraine, it was pilfered by Ukrainian Soviet dictators.

Not saying Dhaciq gives a damn about who bombed Serbia
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That was 15 years ago and Dhaciq and the rest of Serbia and world has moved on. You can stay in 1999 though if that's what you like. If countries were to think like you, Germany and France would still be at war today - but other people have better things to do than eternal hate or fighting.
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or who is at least on paper supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Russia and the others in the UNSC are supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija
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However it's important for Serbia to boost trade in every corner of the world
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That's not in Serbia's control - it's in buyers' power. Serbia is just a small insignificant country in the Balkans like Albania, Croatia etc. I know that people in the Balkans suffer from grandeur delusions, but unfortunately the Sun does not revolve around them.
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Europe is right now the only continent on the planet that is not economically growing. This is a trend that will not reverse any time soon.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Well, the Eurozone's GDP is forecast to grow by 1.1% in 2014; Russia's is forecast to grow by 0.5% in 2014. Is that what you meant, dear or you forgot to check the data before making statements :)

I hope Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered. I hope the Russians continue the bombardment in the East and possibly in the west of Ukraine in phase 2. Feel the pain !
(Bam Bam, 3 September 2014 15:15)

I hope you look up a psychiatrist in the phone directory and make an appointment.

I hope what you wish for other human beings is visited upon you and those you love. If they are living with you now, they are suffering.

New Brunswick- apologies. Not you, Canada.

Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever.
(Stan, 1 September 2014 17:47)

Well, what can one think of people who celebrate defeats. There must be a little masochism in there, don't you think :). However, what you described is not masochism, masochism is when one gets pleasure from pain. What you described is humiliation and submission. There is no pain involved.

The Canadians want an end to the conflict. You weren't very vocal when Bosnia was in flames. I hope Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered. I hope the Russians continue the bombardment in the East and possibly in the west of Ukraine in phase 2. Feel the pain !

(Bam Bam, 3 September 2014 15:15) in a truly humane and touching post "hope(s) Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered."

Dear Bam Bam, you are obviously quite knowledgeable about the many parallels and similarities between Ukraine and the Balkans. Of the many underlying themes is the residue of a living WWII history in both regions. Similar to the Hitlerists that comprise the Croatian Ustashe or the Bosnian Muslim Waffen-SS (Handschar), the current US-supported and undemocratic Kiev regime are Bandera-worshipping extremists that are an offense to human values. In both the Ukraine and the Balkans, these US-installed regimes have obfuscated the Holocaust and constructed societies that admire the worst of history’s racists. Unfortunately, your wish for "others to feel pain" is now not only US policy in the Balkans, but is the American recipe for other parts of Europe.

Yes New Brunswick , it is. What with the largest Ukrainian diaspora in the world that escaped Ukraine after WW2 after being Nazi sympathisers and fearing retribution, you most certainly are.

The conflict ends wery easily - Ukraine just chease its assault against the Russian population in eastern Ukraine !.

Arn.Sweden.

• Estimated combat losses of the two sides are 43 027.

• Malorossia’s losses are 27 888 of killed and wounded , 1649 captured and 13 500 as deserted and lost.

• Novorossia lost above 15 000 of wounded , captured and killed mostly civilians

• Mothers east of Dnieper demand stop the war while mothers in the west of former Ukraine demand better arms …

• Traditionally USA is the biggest gainer of the war while Canada and Poland are the most outstanding mad dogs of the USA.

• Poland goes as a matter of fact while Canada is surprising every day. Now they for the first time seek for peace … Last week they delivered two big planes of ammunition to Kharkov.


http://www.novorossia.org/news/7167-obschie-poteri-ukrainy-na-donbasse-so-2-maya-po-31-avgusta-2014.html

Russia is not occupying anything in Ukraine. This is just an idle fantasy. Are they talking about Crimea? Sorry, Crimea is not even available for discussion, it never belonged to Ukraine, it was pilfered by Ukrainian Soviet dictators.

@ Luigi:

Are you sure that my country is being the most hawkish when it comes to the Russo/Ukrainian conflict??

Why is Dacic receiving these people who bombed us for literally no reason and did nothing to help us get off the floor. Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever. It sickens me to see us sucking up to these people who claim to be our friends, when they have shown to be anything of the sort. What, for trade of 40 million peanuts.

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45
Love to read your posts, you give such an authoritative response without ever knowing what it is you are talking about.
I looked at population of Serbs and got surprising results. Of course those from Serbian sources were astronomically higher than those of non Serbian sources. For instance Wikipedia (not the best source to use) says the US has 199,000 Serbs Canada 80,000 and Australia 69,000. Huge difference in numbers.
Looked further and found a (Serbian) source that gave the Serb population alone as 500,000. But when I researched census it shows that Chicago has a population of about 2.7 million so that would mean that Serbs comprise almost 19% of the population of Chicago.
Digging a little further according to census "White only non Hispanic" which I would imagine most Serbs would put themselves in, comprises 32% of the population or 853,000. So this source is saying that 59% of the white people in Chicago is Serbian-kind of doubt that is possible.
Lesson learned: Serbs not your best source of numbers.
I also love how some of you refer to the EUSSR a derogatory term to compare the EU to the former USSR, while wanting to push Serbia away from it toward Russia the original USSR and home of the future Putin USSR.

{Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić met on Monday with Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird and noted that the two countries have "excellent relations" but that economic cooperation "needs to be developed further."}

Is he lying or what? Canada recognized Kosovo and is one of the biggest supporters of Ukraine. Canadian government daily accused Russia of invading Ukraine.

Canada sending military supplies to Ukraine for border security
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-sending-military-equipment-to-ukraine-for-border-security/article19952287/

Why is Dacic receiving these people who bombed us for literally no reason and did nothing to help us get off the floor. Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever. It sickens me to see us sucking up to these people who claim to be our friends, when they have shown to be anything of the sort. What, for trade of 40 million peanuts.
(Stan, 1 September 2014 17:47)

You meet with sides that you don't always agree with on everything. Not saying Dhaciq gives a damn about who bombed Serbia or who is at least on paper supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija.

However it's important for Serbia to boost trade in every corner of the world in order to diversify from relying on investments coming from the EU. Europe is right now the only continent on the planet that is not economically growing. This is a trend that will not reverse any time soon.

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia. It's important for these trade ties to grow regardless of what they have done. Also expanding ties to China, India, Israel, UAE.... anything to get the hell away from the crumbling EUSSR which has already seen its best days.

@Jeff:

I am most certainly what?? Judging by you comments you do realize that I don't have the same exact way of thinking like all other Canadians if you know what I mean.

Not saying Dhaciq gives a damn about who bombed Serbia
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That was 15 years ago and Dhaciq and the rest of Serbia and world has moved on. You can stay in 1999 though if that's what you like. If countries were to think like you, Germany and France would still be at war today - but other people have better things to do than eternal hate or fighting.
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or who is at least on paper supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Russia and the others in the UNSC are supporting the occupation in Kosovo-Metohija
----------

However it's important for Serbia to boost trade in every corner of the world
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That's not in Serbia's control - it's in buyers' power. Serbia is just a small insignificant country in the Balkans like Albania, Croatia etc. I know that people in the Balkans suffer from grandeur delusions, but unfortunately the Sun does not revolve around them.
----------

Europe is right now the only continent on the planet that is not economically growing. This is a trend that will not reverse any time soon.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Well, the Eurozone's GDP is forecast to grow by 1.1% in 2014; Russia's is forecast to grow by 0.5% in 2014. Is that what you meant, dear or you forgot to check the data before making statements :)

Over a million Serbs live in the U.S. and hundreds of thousands live in Canada & Australia.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

That many Serbs in the evil West?! What the hell are they doing there?! Where is the patriotism?! Why don't they move to the Russian, Chinese or Indian paradises just to make a point in regards to patriotism?!
----------

It's important for these trade ties to grow regardless of what they have done. Also expanding ties to China, India, Israel, UAE.... anything to get the hell away from the crumbling EUSSR which has already seen its best days.
(Ari Gold, 1 September 2014 19:45)

Well, there is some contradiction between the first and second sentence above. Which one do you pick?!

Dear B92
maybe your title is a little deceveing...
Canada is the most hawkysh of all the NATO countries regarding Ukraine..
just asked to send arms and tanks ...

The Canadians want an end to the conflict. You weren't very vocal when Bosnia was in flames. I hope Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered. I hope the Russians continue the bombardment in the East and possibly in the west of Ukraine in phase 2. Feel the pain !

I hope Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered. I hope the Russians continue the bombardment in the East and possibly in the west of Ukraine in phase 2. Feel the pain !
(Bam Bam, 3 September 2014 15:15)

I hope you look up a psychiatrist in the phone directory and make an appointment.

I hope what you wish for other human beings is visited upon you and those you love. If they are living with you now, they are suffering.

Are we masochists or lost any sense of self-respect whatever.
(Stan, 1 September 2014 17:47)

Well, what can one think of people who celebrate defeats. There must be a little masochism in there, don't you think :). However, what you described is not masochism, masochism is when one gets pleasure from pain. What you described is humiliation and submission. There is no pain involved.

(Bam Bam, 3 September 2014 15:15) in a truly humane and touching post "hope(s) Ukraine suffers the same pain as people from the Balkans suffered."

Dear Bam Bam, you are obviously quite knowledgeable about the many parallels and similarities between Ukraine and the Balkans. Of the many underlying themes is the residue of a living WWII history in both regions. Similar to the Hitlerists that comprise the Croatian Ustashe or the Bosnian Muslim Waffen-SS (Handschar), the current US-supported and undemocratic Kiev regime are Bandera-worshipping extremists that are an offense to human values. In both the Ukraine and the Balkans, these US-installed regimes have obfuscated the Holocaust and constructed societies that admire the worst of history’s racists. Unfortunately, your wish for "others to feel pain" is now not only US policy in the Balkans, but is the American recipe for other parts of Europe.

New Brunswick- apologies. Not you, Canada.