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Tuesday, 01.07.2014.

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Killing of kidnapped teenagers condemned

The Vatican has condemned the killing of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank, describing it as "hideous and unacceptable crime" and an obstacle to peace.

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Danilo

pre 9 godina

Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.
(Peggy, 3 July 2014 23:14)

you've gotta be joking. You think US evangelicals, who deny evolution and want to put curbs on teaching science as well as women's reproductive health in the USA and who have real political influence aren't a problem.

To give one example.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)
================================
Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.

Asteri

pre 9 godina

@Ian

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

The Nazis did not target Jews because of their religion. It was rather more complicated than that.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 July 2014 22:09)

It depends on the country. In Serbia for example, priests and patriarchs call for politicians to be killed and wish for "traitors of Russia" to be burned and skinned alive and many other beautiful images. Serbia's President on the other hand says things like "forgive them for they don't know what they do", probably believing he is Jesus Christ.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?
(MikeC, 2 July 2014 17:01)

You're mistaken. Religion has existed for tens of thousands of years.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)

Religion is also the remedy. To each of your accusations, I can find individuals who used religion for positive purposes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Mother Theresa. Take away religion and we still find ways of killing people.

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)

babblefish

pre 9 godina

mikeC, though I don't agree that religion is the source of much of the world's conflicts, I very much think its a catalyst, or simply a scapegoat or excuse to rile up a population in most cases, I must remind you that religion is not mearly 2000 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old. judism is older. hinduism is older. the religions of ancient rome, greece and eqypt are older. the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Pastafarianism is about a decade old.
at the root of the problems are difference. religion, language, habit, etc. the way these differences are presented are how the masses are encouraged to hating those that are not us.

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.
(MikeC, 1 July 2014 19:05)

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.

This cancer called religion is based on pre-medieval superstitions, I for one am not stupid enough to believe in this BS which started with cave men drawing pictures on the walls of caves.

Religion has a lot to do with economics and ideology btw.

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion..."

really? fascism has pretty much always been involved in an unholy alliance with the Catholic Church. communism, well, that's just state religion. you wake up every day and sing hymns to the dear leader, its what North Koreans do today, its what Albanians did during Hoxha. now what does that remind you of? let's see, what do Muslims do, every day? they sing praises to mighty Allah, every day Christians do the same about Jesus. to suggest that communism is irreligious is to not think straight.
the Israeli-Palestine conflict is unsolvable because of religion, not secularists

Roger7

pre 9 godina

rocky,

HSP1861 is clearly not a Serbian provocateur.

The bigot blogs on internet sites conversing with other croatian nationalist sharing their vile and hate-filled ideology.

On these sites, HSP1861 and his fellow haters worship Starcevic (who had a Serbian mother LOL!) and they condemn Tudjman.

They, like you, deserve the same hardships you wish upon those you hate.

rocky

pre 9 godina

HSP1861, fas ???

Odd, I've never come across these two commentators on either B92 or any other Serbian news site? It is very questionable, to the intent & results these 2 invisible individual seek in to accomplish with these posts??? You ask me, I would be of he opinion that they are clearly Serbian provocateurs in disguise, really hoping to draw in Croatian & Albanian comments, that may be negative in nature!!! Good try, but your cheese has gone stale! Better freshen up your bait, amateurs!!!

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Nikolle

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

and still people think religion is a good thing
(Nikolle, 1 July 2014 11:23)

You really think religion is the cause of this? Take religion out and people will still find creative reasons to kill one another.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

@ HSP1861,

Regardless of their ethnicity or religion, these were simply three young men who were hitch hiking home. May what you condone here be visited upon you and those you love.

Your evil comments regarding the Serb victims of fascist Croatia during WWII were censored yesterday for good cause. Croatians like you and Paraga(who has Jewish grandparents) are vile and uncivilized extremists.

The Party of Rights ideology served as the basis for the formation of the nazi Ustasha movement.

Take your nationalistic Croatian Party of Rights hatred to a Croatian site and spew your evil elsewhere.

fas

pre 9 godina

We will know these occupation soldiers by name, by family, what they liked etc. Total Bravado. But we will not know about the unfortunate non-jews of Palestinian descent they eventually killed and that their colleagues certainly did.

Not about the massacres they are comiting now in the koncentration camp Gaza, where all people and their families driven from their lands in occupied Palestine now are swept together in awful conditions. How many gentile lives are these three indoctrinated men worth? 300? 3000? 30.000? Under western media silence the genocide goes on as they see fit...

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

very sad indeed. who'd have thought that the birthplace of monotheism would be so wretched? bring God into human affairs and you get the Israeli-Palestine conflict, one that could potentially go nuclear and kill us all. and for what? holy lands, relics and caves? and still people think religion is a good thing

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

very sad indeed. who'd have thought that the birthplace of monotheism would be so wretched? bring God into human affairs and you get the Israeli-Palestine conflict, one that could potentially go nuclear and kill us all. and for what? holy lands, relics and caves? and still people think religion is a good thing

Roger7

pre 9 godina

@ HSP1861,

Regardless of their ethnicity or religion, these were simply three young men who were hitch hiking home. May what you condone here be visited upon you and those you love.

Your evil comments regarding the Serb victims of fascist Croatia during WWII were censored yesterday for good cause. Croatians like you and Paraga(who has Jewish grandparents) are vile and uncivilized extremists.

The Party of Rights ideology served as the basis for the formation of the nazi Ustasha movement.

Take your nationalistic Croatian Party of Rights hatred to a Croatian site and spew your evil elsewhere.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

and still people think religion is a good thing
(Nikolle, 1 July 2014 11:23)

You really think religion is the cause of this? Take religion out and people will still find creative reasons to kill one another.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)

Religion is also the remedy. To each of your accusations, I can find individuals who used religion for positive purposes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Mother Theresa. Take away religion and we still find ways of killing people.

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)

rocky

pre 9 godina

HSP1861, fas ???

Odd, I've never come across these two commentators on either B92 or any other Serbian news site? It is very questionable, to the intent & results these 2 invisible individual seek in to accomplish with these posts??? You ask me, I would be of he opinion that they are clearly Serbian provocateurs in disguise, really hoping to draw in Croatian & Albanian comments, that may be negative in nature!!! Good try, but your cheese has gone stale! Better freshen up your bait, amateurs!!!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion..."

really? fascism has pretty much always been involved in an unholy alliance with the Catholic Church. communism, well, that's just state religion. you wake up every day and sing hymns to the dear leader, its what North Koreans do today, its what Albanians did during Hoxha. now what does that remind you of? let's see, what do Muslims do, every day? they sing praises to mighty Allah, every day Christians do the same about Jesus. to suggest that communism is irreligious is to not think straight.
the Israeli-Palestine conflict is unsolvable because of religion, not secularists

fas

pre 9 godina

We will know these occupation soldiers by name, by family, what they liked etc. Total Bravado. But we will not know about the unfortunate non-jews of Palestinian descent they eventually killed and that their colleagues certainly did.

Not about the massacres they are comiting now in the koncentration camp Gaza, where all people and their families driven from their lands in occupied Palestine now are swept together in awful conditions. How many gentile lives are these three indoctrinated men worth? 300? 3000? 30.000? Under western media silence the genocide goes on as they see fit...

Roger7

pre 9 godina

rocky,

HSP1861 is clearly not a Serbian provocateur.

The bigot blogs on internet sites conversing with other croatian nationalist sharing their vile and hate-filled ideology.

On these sites, HSP1861 and his fellow haters worship Starcevic (who had a Serbian mother LOL!) and they condemn Tudjman.

They, like you, deserve the same hardships you wish upon those you hate.

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Nikolle

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.
(MikeC, 1 July 2014 19:05)

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.

This cancer called religion is based on pre-medieval superstitions, I for one am not stupid enough to believe in this BS which started with cave men drawing pictures on the walls of caves.

Religion has a lot to do with economics and ideology btw.

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?

babblefish

pre 9 godina

mikeC, though I don't agree that religion is the source of much of the world's conflicts, I very much think its a catalyst, or simply a scapegoat or excuse to rile up a population in most cases, I must remind you that religion is not mearly 2000 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old. judism is older. hinduism is older. the religions of ancient rome, greece and eqypt are older. the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Pastafarianism is about a decade old.
at the root of the problems are difference. religion, language, habit, etc. the way these differences are presented are how the masses are encouraged to hating those that are not us.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)
================================
Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?
(MikeC, 2 July 2014 17:01)

You're mistaken. Religion has existed for tens of thousands of years.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 July 2014 22:09)

It depends on the country. In Serbia for example, priests and patriarchs call for politicians to be killed and wish for "traitors of Russia" to be burned and skinned alive and many other beautiful images. Serbia's President on the other hand says things like "forgive them for they don't know what they do", probably believing he is Jesus Christ.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.
(Peggy, 3 July 2014 23:14)

you've gotta be joking. You think US evangelicals, who deny evolution and want to put curbs on teaching science as well as women's reproductive health in the USA and who have real political influence aren't a problem.

To give one example.

Asteri

pre 9 godina

@Ian

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

The Nazis did not target Jews because of their religion. It was rather more complicated than that.

rocky

pre 9 godina

HSP1861, fas ???

Odd, I've never come across these two commentators on either B92 or any other Serbian news site? It is very questionable, to the intent & results these 2 invisible individual seek in to accomplish with these posts??? You ask me, I would be of he opinion that they are clearly Serbian provocateurs in disguise, really hoping to draw in Croatian & Albanian comments, that may be negative in nature!!! Good try, but your cheese has gone stale! Better freshen up your bait, amateurs!!!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

very sad indeed. who'd have thought that the birthplace of monotheism would be so wretched? bring God into human affairs and you get the Israeli-Palestine conflict, one that could potentially go nuclear and kill us all. and for what? holy lands, relics and caves? and still people think religion is a good thing

fas

pre 9 godina

We will know these occupation soldiers by name, by family, what they liked etc. Total Bravado. But we will not know about the unfortunate non-jews of Palestinian descent they eventually killed and that their colleagues certainly did.

Not about the massacres they are comiting now in the koncentration camp Gaza, where all people and their families driven from their lands in occupied Palestine now are swept together in awful conditions. How many gentile lives are these three indoctrinated men worth? 300? 3000? 30.000? Under western media silence the genocide goes on as they see fit...

Roger7

pre 9 godina

@ HSP1861,

Regardless of their ethnicity or religion, these were simply three young men who were hitch hiking home. May what you condone here be visited upon you and those you love.

Your evil comments regarding the Serb victims of fascist Croatia during WWII were censored yesterday for good cause. Croatians like you and Paraga(who has Jewish grandparents) are vile and uncivilized extremists.

The Party of Rights ideology served as the basis for the formation of the nazi Ustasha movement.

Take your nationalistic Croatian Party of Rights hatred to a Croatian site and spew your evil elsewhere.

Roger7

pre 9 godina

rocky,

HSP1861 is clearly not a Serbian provocateur.

The bigot blogs on internet sites conversing with other croatian nationalist sharing their vile and hate-filled ideology.

On these sites, HSP1861 and his fellow haters worship Starcevic (who had a Serbian mother LOL!) and they condemn Tudjman.

They, like you, deserve the same hardships you wish upon those you hate.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.
(MikeC, 1 July 2014 19:05)

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.

This cancer called religion is based on pre-medieval superstitions, I for one am not stupid enough to believe in this BS which started with cave men drawing pictures on the walls of caves.

Religion has a lot to do with economics and ideology btw.

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Nikolle

You don't get it! Religion is a beutiful thing and just an excuse to wage war. If not for religion we'd have other reasons to kill eachother. Why do soccerfans fight or people who belong to different political parties kill and hate eachother? Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion still some of the bloodiest wars was waged between these ideolegies. Why do nations and people hate eachothe even if they belong to the same religion? The main reason for conflict is economical. idelogical and not religious.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)

Religion is also the remedy. To each of your accusations, I can find individuals who used religion for positive purposes. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Mother Theresa. Take away religion and we still find ways of killing people.

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)

Reader

pre 9 godina

Your interpretation of religion links it to a political tool; something that has long since been replaced with nationalism. That's a typical fallacy of those who read rubes like Dawkins and think they've solved a millennial dilemma :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 July 2014 22:09)

It depends on the country. In Serbia for example, priests and patriarchs call for politicians to be killed and wish for "traitors of Russia" to be burned and skinned alive and many other beautiful images. Serbia's President on the other hand says things like "forgive them for they don't know what they do", probably believing he is Jesus Christ.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Religion is the cause to all of the world's problems. So many Wars would have been avoided throughout history if it weren't for Religion. Religion is a disease the world needs curing of. I would fully support a universal ban on all religions.
(Ian, UK, 2 July 2014 14:51)
================================
Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

and still people think religion is a good thing
(Nikolle, 1 July 2014 11:23)

You really think religion is the cause of this? Take religion out and people will still find creative reasons to kill one another.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Communism and fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion..."

really? fascism has pretty much always been involved in an unholy alliance with the Catholic Church. communism, well, that's just state religion. you wake up every day and sing hymns to the dear leader, its what North Koreans do today, its what Albanians did during Hoxha. now what does that remind you of? let's see, what do Muslims do, every day? they sing praises to mighty Allah, every day Christians do the same about Jesus. to suggest that communism is irreligious is to not think straight.
the Israeli-Palestine conflict is unsolvable because of religion, not secularists

MikeC

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?

babblefish

pre 9 godina

mikeC, though I don't agree that religion is the source of much of the world's conflicts, I very much think its a catalyst, or simply a scapegoat or excuse to rile up a population in most cases, I must remind you that religion is not mearly 2000 years old. Christianity is 2000 years old. judism is older. hinduism is older. the religions of ancient rome, greece and eqypt are older. the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Pastafarianism is about a decade old.
at the root of the problems are difference. religion, language, habit, etc. the way these differences are presented are how the masses are encouraged to hating those that are not us.

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Religion is 2000 years old. However, humans have been fighting and killing eachother of for 5000 years. How do you explain that?
(MikeC, 2 July 2014 17:01)

You're mistaken. Religion has existed for tens of thousands of years.

Asteri

pre 9 godina

@Ian

"fascism doesnt have anything to do with religion" Try telling that to 6 Million Jews... oh wait!

The Nazis did not target Jews because of their religion. It was rather more complicated than that.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Today, only the "religion of peace" is the problem.
(Peggy, 3 July 2014 23:14)

you've gotta be joking. You think US evangelicals, who deny evolution and want to put curbs on teaching science as well as women's reproductive health in the USA and who have real political influence aren't a problem.

To give one example.