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Thursday, 05.06.2014.

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West threatens Russia with more sanctions

Leaders of the seven most developed countries have warned Russia they are ready for new sanctions if there is no progress in resolving the Ukrainian crisis.

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Leonidas

pre 9 godina

sj, 9 June 2014 11:04)

Thank for your intervention but it's been my policy not to reply to postings by any newly created ignorant joe and his personal insinuations.My exchange with Rote was about the reduced role of the US dollar in world trade which is supported by statistics and show how fast the Chinese Yuan is coming onto the world stage.If one throws in the recent trade and currency agreements signed by China not only with the BRIC countries but also with Germany,France,Italy,UK it won't be too long before the US dollar becomes irrelevant.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joe the Greek, 7 June 2014 21:09)

If you’re Greek, which I doubt, there is a story during the siege of Troy the Gods started to fight amongst themselves and the mighty Achilles sat on the side. When asked why was’nt he on the battle field he replied ‘when the Gods are at war mere mortals can only side on the side and watch’.
Its totally beyond you to understand what Leonidas is talking about and to explain takes too much room on this site.

Joe the Greek

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37)

Leonidas,

Which other currencies are you talking about, the Drachma. Have you ever even been to Greece. Do you have a paying job. Stop your nonsense, you are embarrassing us.

RK

pre 9 godina

Gotsefromohrid

“Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.”

If you are patient enough and behave yourself I am ready to teach you something I already know but in the end it may kill you and destroy things you had been trusting and taking as axioms. You may offer your own plan of reeducation but propose to start with the most vital items the Scaliger history is based on. So the stories we know have been invented something you will learn with my help. Right now I have to talk with a wall so please start to learn something by yourself.

1/ Please learn more about the old maps available and compare them with the official stories about Columbus , Vespucci , Vikings ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_maps#Earliest_known_maps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_World_Map
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/World/World
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Russia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Asia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/America/America

2/ I believe that next we have to move to the phantom of Karl the Great as the founder of the Great Roman Empire. It is the concrete foundation of the whole European history. When you read something please remember that the most important thing for any king is his biography. Because only biography gives him the right for state power. Later I’ll reveal you the key.

rote

pre 9 godina

think

1/ Greeks don’t have to waste their time to advocate Russia when Russians are available. Think about it.
2/ Yes Leonidas must be overestimating the fall of dollar because he hates to pay this rent to keep up the bastards. But the US is very worried about this foundation of the western prosperity. Because they estimate the threats as real they started this Cold War-2 to last for decades and to involve the whole globe. Just think about it.
3/ Yes Europe will in no case die without the Russian gas. But it will soon lose an important basis of competitiveness. It may bring domino processes in social and political spheres to replace the elites. If G7 is composed on the economic might then there would be 4 BRICS (China , India, Russia , Brasil) countries and 1 European (Germany) + USA + Japan. When Putin came nobody could imagine this. Think about it.
4/ Gazprom earns USD 200 million per day or USD 6 Bln per month. But even these money compose only 15% of what Russia is earning on oil and gas. But there are many other items of exports. All available in the web. Say Russia exports as many arms as the USA. So our finance are good enough. At least we are the only state with profit budget on the continent. Think about it and compare it with the Albanian budget.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

RK

I've always thought lunatics are in the asylum not posting on this site.Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah”

The holy writ was composed in London in mid 17 century by 4 men who has never seen Jesus … the oldest construction in the current Jerusalem and Rome are younger than 400 years , pyramids younger than 500 years , the Great Wall in China younger than 300 years , no Mongolo-Tatars , no ancient China or India , no Columbus , no conquistadors almost nothing of what we are arguing. Sodom and Gomorrah were in Apennines as Pompey and …

“ Egypt is prophesied to become …”

The last pharaoh was buried here in late 18-th century to be found few years later by Napoleon. Why do you think the most guarded state secret in Egypt are the horoscopes on the pyramids and the graves ? Because the tell exact dates when they were born and died. All in the middle ages … Why should the Chinese hide the 400 pyramids here and the real Great Wall ? Not to answer natural questions like who , when and why has built the piramids all over the Earth ? Why the wall runs in the middle of the country ? How came that the Uigur people of China and the Bengali people of Bangladesh have 80% Arian Y-DNA R1a ? How came that all pharaohs have either R1b or R1a happlogroups ?

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt …”

Forget about everything in Scaliger history before 1700. After this date the events are given more or less correct though some of the interpretations are also false. As for Babylon , Troy , Constantinople , “ancient” Jerusalem , Tsar grad , Istanbul all are just one city. It may shock you but there’s not a single evidence that Babylon or Troy or traditional Jerusalem has ever existed.

Jerusalem was called any place where the top Jewish clergyman stayed. If he moved to another place this new place was called Jerusalem. During Bible events Jerusalem was on Biosphere (Jordan) 20 km away from Istanbul. Arabs called it Beit-Ul-Moqddas or the Saint City. During crusading wars Islam or Muslims were never mentioned because there was no Islam yet …

They only source of Troy was Gomer’s poem that was first written down 300 years after he died. Gomer ( if he really existed ) was blind born and had no chance to write his poems. Besides like 100% in Scaliger version history only copies of the poem are available. We are offered to believe in fairy tales of never existed phantom ancient Rome and Greece and Pharaohs with R1b happlogroup …

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

(think about it, 6 June 2014 02:52)

I would hazard a guess that you haven't got a clue how bad things are and how much worse it's going to get. It's going to blindside so many people, but they will be distracted by war and Russia can be scapegoated as the cause.Russia isn't going to suffer financially - for the simple reason that they have developed new markets for their gas in Asia with China being a big buyer.Ukraine is going to freeze this Winter and so are many EU countries -not to mention the 350 billion trade with Russia.Life is about to get very interesting.

rote

pre 9 godina

Parrisson

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east

No I must be living in the center of Moscow but my people also lives on the left bank of Ukraine that makes half of this country. Don’t you believe that the conflict can be localized in Donbass ! This autumn 8 other Russian regions that produce 80% of the GDP here will also rebel. Do not pay much attention to what Lavrov and Putin talk to our mortal enemies. When you deal with bastards you don’t have to remain a gentleman. All Russians on both sides of the border use word WE or US because we are one people. We are like any divided nation meeting an obstacle. 25 million of the Russians outside the mainland also say WE. We are tired to hear the lie year by year over most things happening on this planet. Remember how you stole KiM , how they destroyed many Muslim countries , deprived Serbs of their lands in Croatia , Montenegro , Bosnia and Kosovo … Who else can stop the evil if not Russia ? So the world is divided for US and THEM. You belong to them but the left bank Ukrainians are part of the Russian world. So I say WE …

think about it

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37
The doomsday naysayers are such a joke. Russia and China decide to not use the US dollar for a single deal that spans 30 years and which any monies will not change hands probably for a decade and you are quick to jump on the grandstand and announce that the US is going to fall. That the US dollar is no longer used.
Your claims that Europe could not survive more than a few months without Russian gas, are you so ignorant to believe Russia could survive a few months without the money for that gas?????

joseph

pre 9 godina

iraq.

The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt, which S.Hussain began to do. Please see jeremiah chapters fifty and fifty-one, the whole chapters. but especially50:39,40;and 51:26,62.
51:26, they shall not take of thee for a stone or a corner..but thou shall be desolate for ever, says the LORD.(YAH or Jehovah).and :62,O LORD thou has spoken against this place.. that it shouldd be desolate for ever.
50:40, AS GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah..so shall no man abide in thee.
Isaiah 19 prophesies good things about "Assyria"which took the Northern Kingdom captive and Ninevah could be around Mosul,where it says, :24, IN that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in midst of the land, :25. Whom the LORD of Hosts shall bless saying, Blessed Egypt my people, Assyria the work of myhands andd Israel my heritage.


Egypt is prophesied to become the peopel of YHWH, and, despite the tragedy , Yah is working in the Iraq areA and these two nations are prophesied to come to YHWH of the Bible!

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Despite all the US/EU nonsensical threats, Europe could not withstand more than about 3 months maximum of gas cut-off from Russia - and even that long would do terrible damage to European industry, on top of Europe's very high energy prices.The US was relying on their EU / US propaganda blitz, trying to cast Russia as the aggressor in Ukraine - even though the exact opposite was true - to get public opinion backing for heavy sanctions against Russia.That failed - and most Europeans, as polls show, do not believe the US / EU propaganda at all, and do not support sanctions against Russia.
The US neocons haven’t learned anything from Iraq - where after causing the deaths of over a million civilians there, the country is now infinitely worse-off than it was under Saddam.But the neo-con's partners-in-crime, the US oil companies, and the military suppliers, all made a fortune. And the US tax-payer has a bill of one trillion dollars for that shameful invasion of a sovereign country by the US and its puppets.
The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.

John

pre 9 godina

South Stream should be abandoned...
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02)

After so many years of agitating for our Serbian "friends" you want to sacrifice them, my Pro-Russian troll? :-)

Thank you for confirming what we knew already.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? "
(rote, 5 June 2014 16:58)

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east who doesn't like the new government? So far, I always thought you were from Russia. But this cannot be, since we all know, there are no Russians in eastern Ukraine, no soldiers, no military advisors, no heavy weapons smuggled over the border. Didn't master Putin said that only yesterday?
And the helicopters must have been shut down by local hunters with their rifles.

Frankie, Hoboken, NJ

pre 9 godina

Who the hell is this Lydia?
(Ian, UK, 5 June 2014 14:30)

Lydia is the hot little carrot-top trophy in the Cadillac that ***PUTINMAN*** was spotted with in Nevada while attending an Elvis impersonating contest in Las Vegas shortly after he got kicked to the curb and long before he got hitched up with Crimea.
Looks to me like ***PUTINMAN*** is done with being kicked out and kicked around and is starting to do things his way.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBWqMeUzpI

rote

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET THAT IT WAS A MISPRINT. BUT I CAN HELP YOU. I MEANT A COUNTRY THAT LIVED TOO GOOD SO THE YANKEES ORGANIZED A NO FLIGHT ZONE HERE AND NOW THEY LIVE IN DEMOCRACY. SEE THEIR YESTERDAY LOSSES AND ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE USD 200 BLN ON GADDAFI’S BANK ACCOUNTS ?

Commentator,

“Byebye Southstream”

Bye bye Commentator ! The Qataris (Bulgarians) won’t refuse so easily. The Chavdars gain more money from Gazprom than from EU. So the risk is to this clown cloud organization but not to SS. Russia will deliver the gas in any way be it through Turkey and Greece (both are dreaming of it !) or as prepaid to the officials of the states involved. Only idiots may think that what is good for Russia and Serbia is automatically bad to their rivals. S.Stream makes the gas cheaper for all ! Besides we all know that Gazprom is stronger than EU. Relax as Gazprom will warm you in any case … for your money of course.

jep

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02) lol then you woke up hey Albanian , man your a joke like your tiny midgets....Kosovo is Serbian lands not your Albanian lands.....

tom

pre 9 godina

yea ok there and who Is suffering ? the west and the EU.....dumb americans think it works and its failing big time and more and more countries are telling America to get lost.....so many nations are sighing with Russia and china and even EU states are doing major business with Russia and not listening to America no more.....nobody cares for American lies and propaganda anymore in this new world....America = fail......

rote

pre 9 godina

One more thing. Is it the International Idiot’s Day today or it’s just and Open Door Day in the western madhouses ? At least every interview I saw over the TV amused me. First it was a joint interview of two formal leaders that spoke English as mother languages. They gave a long list of things Putin should do in the nearest future. Looks like Putin was their patient in the hospital or a pupil to be soon excluded. The sunburnt one had shivering hands and looked more idiotic while the one with traditional for such employees skin played his ole more formal. Yet Stanislavsky would not trust them both. Later Hollande showed that instant madness is still not an epidermis in the West. At least he knew that either Russia will have the 2 Mistrals or USD 3 Bln.

And nobody spoke of the 8200 refugees to arrive Russia yesterday and 55 000 today. Nobody mentioned of the 100 km long open borders after 5 Ukrainian posts (zastavas) flew to mother Russia. Nobody mentioned of the 2 day massive attack on several Donbass cities that took away dozens of lives and even more of the injured mostly civillians. To say nothing of the hit down bomber-fighters and helicopters , burnt tanks and armored vehicles. Looks like the G7 people and Donbass people live on different planets or parallel worlds. Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? Finally the absurd hit the top when they talk about the D-Day.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

Byebye Southstream:

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/elections/south-stream-project-threatens-bring-down-bulgarian-government-302623

:-)))))

Bob

pre 9 godina

Putin is overstepping reasonable values by stirring up nationalist sentiment so that he can take over land that is not his. There is no reason to break up Ukraine and no reason for Russia to keep Crimea.

Sanctions may not be a strong tool, but the Russian people are suffering the inconvenience.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.

rote

pre 9 godina

“West threatens Russia with more sanctions”

Barking dogs never bite. They bark out of their fear and there are many reasons for them to be worried about. Only the Europeans and the Americans have a plain picture of the events in this country. They are told of the democratic pro-European revolution to win in this country. Everything could be OK even better than in Lydia , Syria , Iraq , Afghanistan , Kosovo or Viet Nam but the damned Russians again started to spit into the soup. So the democratic society and the whole progressive mankind are going to finally put Putin on his place.

Needles to explain that today Ukraine has minimum 3-4 capitals while two centers of power (Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk) fight each other. Why should the French know that 80% of the armed forces will not obey the new president ? Why should the Germans know that ethnical Germans are one by one coming here to fight the Nazi ? The Yankees will also be disappointed to know that not only the Ossetian and Chechen volunteers are arriving here but the Israelites from battalion ALIA …

Why to disturb the EU voters that the killed on both sides already is close to 2000. News about the 200 000 new refugees to Rostov region of Russia may also spoil an appetite. As well as the info about the multiple air attacks at civil objects and dozens of burnt tanks and armored troop carriers. Such news may spoil the picture so best to diverse attention with empty talks about sanctions.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Despite all the US/EU nonsensical threats, Europe could not withstand more than about 3 months maximum of gas cut-off from Russia - and even that long would do terrible damage to European industry, on top of Europe's very high energy prices.The US was relying on their EU / US propaganda blitz, trying to cast Russia as the aggressor in Ukraine - even though the exact opposite was true - to get public opinion backing for heavy sanctions against Russia.That failed - and most Europeans, as polls show, do not believe the US / EU propaganda at all, and do not support sanctions against Russia.
The US neocons haven’t learned anything from Iraq - where after causing the deaths of over a million civilians there, the country is now infinitely worse-off than it was under Saddam.But the neo-con's partners-in-crime, the US oil companies, and the military suppliers, all made a fortune. And the US tax-payer has a bill of one trillion dollars for that shameful invasion of a sovereign country by the US and its puppets.
The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.

rote

pre 9 godina

“West threatens Russia with more sanctions”

Barking dogs never bite. They bark out of their fear and there are many reasons for them to be worried about. Only the Europeans and the Americans have a plain picture of the events in this country. They are told of the democratic pro-European revolution to win in this country. Everything could be OK even better than in Lydia , Syria , Iraq , Afghanistan , Kosovo or Viet Nam but the damned Russians again started to spit into the soup. So the democratic society and the whole progressive mankind are going to finally put Putin on his place.

Needles to explain that today Ukraine has minimum 3-4 capitals while two centers of power (Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk) fight each other. Why should the French know that 80% of the armed forces will not obey the new president ? Why should the Germans know that ethnical Germans are one by one coming here to fight the Nazi ? The Yankees will also be disappointed to know that not only the Ossetian and Chechen volunteers are arriving here but the Israelites from battalion ALIA …

Why to disturb the EU voters that the killed on both sides already is close to 2000. News about the 200 000 new refugees to Rostov region of Russia may also spoil an appetite. As well as the info about the multiple air attacks at civil objects and dozens of burnt tanks and armored troop carriers. Such news may spoil the picture so best to diverse attention with empty talks about sanctions.

rote

pre 9 godina

One more thing. Is it the International Idiot’s Day today or it’s just and Open Door Day in the western madhouses ? At least every interview I saw over the TV amused me. First it was a joint interview of two formal leaders that spoke English as mother languages. They gave a long list of things Putin should do in the nearest future. Looks like Putin was their patient in the hospital or a pupil to be soon excluded. The sunburnt one had shivering hands and looked more idiotic while the one with traditional for such employees skin played his ole more formal. Yet Stanislavsky would not trust them both. Later Hollande showed that instant madness is still not an epidermis in the West. At least he knew that either Russia will have the 2 Mistrals or USD 3 Bln.

And nobody spoke of the 8200 refugees to arrive Russia yesterday and 55 000 today. Nobody mentioned of the 100 km long open borders after 5 Ukrainian posts (zastavas) flew to mother Russia. Nobody mentioned of the 2 day massive attack on several Donbass cities that took away dozens of lives and even more of the injured mostly civillians. To say nothing of the hit down bomber-fighters and helicopters , burnt tanks and armored vehicles. Looks like the G7 people and Donbass people live on different planets or parallel worlds. Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? Finally the absurd hit the top when they talk about the D-Day.

rote

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET THAT IT WAS A MISPRINT. BUT I CAN HELP YOU. I MEANT A COUNTRY THAT LIVED TOO GOOD SO THE YANKEES ORGANIZED A NO FLIGHT ZONE HERE AND NOW THEY LIVE IN DEMOCRACY. SEE THEIR YESTERDAY LOSSES AND ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE USD 200 BLN ON GADDAFI’S BANK ACCOUNTS ?

Commentator,

“Byebye Southstream”

Bye bye Commentator ! The Qataris (Bulgarians) won’t refuse so easily. The Chavdars gain more money from Gazprom than from EU. So the risk is to this clown cloud organization but not to SS. Russia will deliver the gas in any way be it through Turkey and Greece (both are dreaming of it !) or as prepaid to the officials of the states involved. Only idiots may think that what is good for Russia and Serbia is automatically bad to their rivals. S.Stream makes the gas cheaper for all ! Besides we all know that Gazprom is stronger than EU. Relax as Gazprom will warm you in any case … for your money of course.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.

tom

pre 9 godina

yea ok there and who Is suffering ? the west and the EU.....dumb americans think it works and its failing big time and more and more countries are telling America to get lost.....so many nations are sighing with Russia and china and even EU states are doing major business with Russia and not listening to America no more.....nobody cares for American lies and propaganda anymore in this new world....America = fail......

rote

pre 9 godina

Parrisson

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east

No I must be living in the center of Moscow but my people also lives on the left bank of Ukraine that makes half of this country. Don’t you believe that the conflict can be localized in Donbass ! This autumn 8 other Russian regions that produce 80% of the GDP here will also rebel. Do not pay much attention to what Lavrov and Putin talk to our mortal enemies. When you deal with bastards you don’t have to remain a gentleman. All Russians on both sides of the border use word WE or US because we are one people. We are like any divided nation meeting an obstacle. 25 million of the Russians outside the mainland also say WE. We are tired to hear the lie year by year over most things happening on this planet. Remember how you stole KiM , how they destroyed many Muslim countries , deprived Serbs of their lands in Croatia , Montenegro , Bosnia and Kosovo … Who else can stop the evil if not Russia ? So the world is divided for US and THEM. You belong to them but the left bank Ukrainians are part of the Russian world. So I say WE …

jep

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02) lol then you woke up hey Albanian , man your a joke like your tiny midgets....Kosovo is Serbian lands not your Albanian lands.....

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

(think about it, 6 June 2014 02:52)

I would hazard a guess that you haven't got a clue how bad things are and how much worse it's going to get. It's going to blindside so many people, but they will be distracted by war and Russia can be scapegoated as the cause.Russia isn't going to suffer financially - for the simple reason that they have developed new markets for their gas in Asia with China being a big buyer.Ukraine is going to freeze this Winter and so are many EU countries -not to mention the 350 billion trade with Russia.Life is about to get very interesting.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Putin is overstepping reasonable values by stirring up nationalist sentiment so that he can take over land that is not his. There is no reason to break up Ukraine and no reason for Russia to keep Crimea.

Sanctions may not be a strong tool, but the Russian people are suffering the inconvenience.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

Byebye Southstream:

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/elections/south-stream-project-threatens-bring-down-bulgarian-government-302623

:-)))))

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? "
(rote, 5 June 2014 16:58)

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east who doesn't like the new government? So far, I always thought you were from Russia. But this cannot be, since we all know, there are no Russians in eastern Ukraine, no soldiers, no military advisors, no heavy weapons smuggled over the border. Didn't master Putin said that only yesterday?
And the helicopters must have been shut down by local hunters with their rifles.

John

pre 9 godina

South Stream should be abandoned...
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02)

After so many years of agitating for our Serbian "friends" you want to sacrifice them, my Pro-Russian troll? :-)

Thank you for confirming what we knew already.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joe the Greek, 7 June 2014 21:09)

If you’re Greek, which I doubt, there is a story during the siege of Troy the Gods started to fight amongst themselves and the mighty Achilles sat on the side. When asked why was’nt he on the battle field he replied ‘when the Gods are at war mere mortals can only side on the side and watch’.
Its totally beyond you to understand what Leonidas is talking about and to explain takes too much room on this site.

Frankie, Hoboken, NJ

pre 9 godina

Who the hell is this Lydia?
(Ian, UK, 5 June 2014 14:30)

Lydia is the hot little carrot-top trophy in the Cadillac that ***PUTINMAN*** was spotted with in Nevada while attending an Elvis impersonating contest in Las Vegas shortly after he got kicked to the curb and long before he got hitched up with Crimea.
Looks to me like ***PUTINMAN*** is done with being kicked out and kicked around and is starting to do things his way.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBWqMeUzpI

think about it

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37
The doomsday naysayers are such a joke. Russia and China decide to not use the US dollar for a single deal that spans 30 years and which any monies will not change hands probably for a decade and you are quick to jump on the grandstand and announce that the US is going to fall. That the US dollar is no longer used.
Your claims that Europe could not survive more than a few months without Russian gas, are you so ignorant to believe Russia could survive a few months without the money for that gas?????

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

RK

I've always thought lunatics are in the asylum not posting on this site.Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

sj, 9 June 2014 11:04)

Thank for your intervention but it's been my policy not to reply to postings by any newly created ignorant joe and his personal insinuations.My exchange with Rote was about the reduced role of the US dollar in world trade which is supported by statistics and show how fast the Chinese Yuan is coming onto the world stage.If one throws in the recent trade and currency agreements signed by China not only with the BRIC countries but also with Germany,France,Italy,UK it won't be too long before the US dollar becomes irrelevant.

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah”

The holy writ was composed in London in mid 17 century by 4 men who has never seen Jesus … the oldest construction in the current Jerusalem and Rome are younger than 400 years , pyramids younger than 500 years , the Great Wall in China younger than 300 years , no Mongolo-Tatars , no ancient China or India , no Columbus , no conquistadors almost nothing of what we are arguing. Sodom and Gomorrah were in Apennines as Pompey and …

“ Egypt is prophesied to become …”

The last pharaoh was buried here in late 18-th century to be found few years later by Napoleon. Why do you think the most guarded state secret in Egypt are the horoscopes on the pyramids and the graves ? Because the tell exact dates when they were born and died. All in the middle ages … Why should the Chinese hide the 400 pyramids here and the real Great Wall ? Not to answer natural questions like who , when and why has built the piramids all over the Earth ? Why the wall runs in the middle of the country ? How came that the Uigur people of China and the Bengali people of Bangladesh have 80% Arian Y-DNA R1a ? How came that all pharaohs have either R1b or R1a happlogroups ?

rote

pre 9 godina

think

1/ Greeks don’t have to waste their time to advocate Russia when Russians are available. Think about it.
2/ Yes Leonidas must be overestimating the fall of dollar because he hates to pay this rent to keep up the bastards. But the US is very worried about this foundation of the western prosperity. Because they estimate the threats as real they started this Cold War-2 to last for decades and to involve the whole globe. Just think about it.
3/ Yes Europe will in no case die without the Russian gas. But it will soon lose an important basis of competitiveness. It may bring domino processes in social and political spheres to replace the elites. If G7 is composed on the economic might then there would be 4 BRICS (China , India, Russia , Brasil) countries and 1 European (Germany) + USA + Japan. When Putin came nobody could imagine this. Think about it.
4/ Gazprom earns USD 200 million per day or USD 6 Bln per month. But even these money compose only 15% of what Russia is earning on oil and gas. But there are many other items of exports. All available in the web. Say Russia exports as many arms as the USA. So our finance are good enough. At least we are the only state with profit budget on the continent. Think about it and compare it with the Albanian budget.

RK

pre 9 godina

Gotsefromohrid

“Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.”

If you are patient enough and behave yourself I am ready to teach you something I already know but in the end it may kill you and destroy things you had been trusting and taking as axioms. You may offer your own plan of reeducation but propose to start with the most vital items the Scaliger history is based on. So the stories we know have been invented something you will learn with my help. Right now I have to talk with a wall so please start to learn something by yourself.

1/ Please learn more about the old maps available and compare them with the official stories about Columbus , Vespucci , Vikings ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_maps#Earliest_known_maps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_World_Map
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/World/World
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Russia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Asia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/America/America

2/ I believe that next we have to move to the phantom of Karl the Great as the founder of the Great Roman Empire. It is the concrete foundation of the whole European history. When you read something please remember that the most important thing for any king is his biography. Because only biography gives him the right for state power. Later I’ll reveal you the key.

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt …”

Forget about everything in Scaliger history before 1700. After this date the events are given more or less correct though some of the interpretations are also false. As for Babylon , Troy , Constantinople , “ancient” Jerusalem , Tsar grad , Istanbul all are just one city. It may shock you but there’s not a single evidence that Babylon or Troy or traditional Jerusalem has ever existed.

Jerusalem was called any place where the top Jewish clergyman stayed. If he moved to another place this new place was called Jerusalem. During Bible events Jerusalem was on Biosphere (Jordan) 20 km away from Istanbul. Arabs called it Beit-Ul-Moqddas or the Saint City. During crusading wars Islam or Muslims were never mentioned because there was no Islam yet …

They only source of Troy was Gomer’s poem that was first written down 300 years after he died. Gomer ( if he really existed ) was blind born and had no chance to write his poems. Besides like 100% in Scaliger version history only copies of the poem are available. We are offered to believe in fairy tales of never existed phantom ancient Rome and Greece and Pharaohs with R1b happlogroup …

joseph

pre 9 godina

iraq.

The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt, which S.Hussain began to do. Please see jeremiah chapters fifty and fifty-one, the whole chapters. but especially50:39,40;and 51:26,62.
51:26, they shall not take of thee for a stone or a corner..but thou shall be desolate for ever, says the LORD.(YAH or Jehovah).and :62,O LORD thou has spoken against this place.. that it shouldd be desolate for ever.
50:40, AS GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah..so shall no man abide in thee.
Isaiah 19 prophesies good things about "Assyria"which took the Northern Kingdom captive and Ninevah could be around Mosul,where it says, :24, IN that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in midst of the land, :25. Whom the LORD of Hosts shall bless saying, Blessed Egypt my people, Assyria the work of myhands andd Israel my heritage.


Egypt is prophesied to become the peopel of YHWH, and, despite the tragedy , Yah is working in the Iraq areA and these two nations are prophesied to come to YHWH of the Bible!

Joe the Greek

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37)

Leonidas,

Which other currencies are you talking about, the Drachma. Have you ever even been to Greece. Do you have a paying job. Stop your nonsense, you are embarrassing us.

Bob

pre 9 godina

Putin is overstepping reasonable values by stirring up nationalist sentiment so that he can take over land that is not his. There is no reason to break up Ukraine and no reason for Russia to keep Crimea.

Sanctions may not be a strong tool, but the Russian people are suffering the inconvenience.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? "
(rote, 5 June 2014 16:58)

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east who doesn't like the new government? So far, I always thought you were from Russia. But this cannot be, since we all know, there are no Russians in eastern Ukraine, no soldiers, no military advisors, no heavy weapons smuggled over the border. Didn't master Putin said that only yesterday?
And the helicopters must have been shut down by local hunters with their rifles.

Michael Thomas

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.

Frankie, Hoboken, NJ

pre 9 godina

Who the hell is this Lydia?
(Ian, UK, 5 June 2014 14:30)

Lydia is the hot little carrot-top trophy in the Cadillac that ***PUTINMAN*** was spotted with in Nevada while attending an Elvis impersonating contest in Las Vegas shortly after he got kicked to the curb and long before he got hitched up with Crimea.
Looks to me like ***PUTINMAN*** is done with being kicked out and kicked around and is starting to do things his way.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBWqMeUzpI

John

pre 9 godina

South Stream should be abandoned...
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02)

After so many years of agitating for our Serbian "friends" you want to sacrifice them, my Pro-Russian troll? :-)

Thank you for confirming what we knew already.

rote

pre 9 godina

“West threatens Russia with more sanctions”

Barking dogs never bite. They bark out of their fear and there are many reasons for them to be worried about. Only the Europeans and the Americans have a plain picture of the events in this country. They are told of the democratic pro-European revolution to win in this country. Everything could be OK even better than in Lydia , Syria , Iraq , Afghanistan , Kosovo or Viet Nam but the damned Russians again started to spit into the soup. So the democratic society and the whole progressive mankind are going to finally put Putin on his place.

Needles to explain that today Ukraine has minimum 3-4 capitals while two centers of power (Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk) fight each other. Why should the French know that 80% of the armed forces will not obey the new president ? Why should the Germans know that ethnical Germans are one by one coming here to fight the Nazi ? The Yankees will also be disappointed to know that not only the Ossetian and Chechen volunteers are arriving here but the Israelites from battalion ALIA …

Why to disturb the EU voters that the killed on both sides already is close to 2000. News about the 200 000 new refugees to Rostov region of Russia may also spoil an appetite. As well as the info about the multiple air attacks at civil objects and dozens of burnt tanks and armored troop carriers. Such news may spoil the picture so best to diverse attention with empty talks about sanctions.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

Byebye Southstream:

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/elections/south-stream-project-threatens-bring-down-bulgarian-government-302623

:-)))))

rote

pre 9 godina

One more thing. Is it the International Idiot’s Day today or it’s just and Open Door Day in the western madhouses ? At least every interview I saw over the TV amused me. First it was a joint interview of two formal leaders that spoke English as mother languages. They gave a long list of things Putin should do in the nearest future. Looks like Putin was their patient in the hospital or a pupil to be soon excluded. The sunburnt one had shivering hands and looked more idiotic while the one with traditional for such employees skin played his ole more formal. Yet Stanislavsky would not trust them both. Later Hollande showed that instant madness is still not an epidermis in the West. At least he knew that either Russia will have the 2 Mistrals or USD 3 Bln.

And nobody spoke of the 8200 refugees to arrive Russia yesterday and 55 000 today. Nobody mentioned of the 100 km long open borders after 5 Ukrainian posts (zastavas) flew to mother Russia. Nobody mentioned of the 2 day massive attack on several Donbass cities that took away dozens of lives and even more of the injured mostly civillians. To say nothing of the hit down bomber-fighters and helicopters , burnt tanks and armored vehicles. Looks like the G7 people and Donbass people live on different planets or parallel worlds. Ain’t it evident that we are winning this combat and everybody who support the Nazi will soon need his personal Nuremberg type legend ? Finally the absurd hit the top when they talk about the D-Day.

think about it

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37
The doomsday naysayers are such a joke. Russia and China decide to not use the US dollar for a single deal that spans 30 years and which any monies will not change hands probably for a decade and you are quick to jump on the grandstand and announce that the US is going to fall. That the US dollar is no longer used.
Your claims that Europe could not survive more than a few months without Russian gas, are you so ignorant to believe Russia could survive a few months without the money for that gas?????

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah”

The holy writ was composed in London in mid 17 century by 4 men who has never seen Jesus … the oldest construction in the current Jerusalem and Rome are younger than 400 years , pyramids younger than 500 years , the Great Wall in China younger than 300 years , no Mongolo-Tatars , no ancient China or India , no Columbus , no conquistadors almost nothing of what we are arguing. Sodom and Gomorrah were in Apennines as Pompey and …

“ Egypt is prophesied to become …”

The last pharaoh was buried here in late 18-th century to be found few years later by Napoleon. Why do you think the most guarded state secret in Egypt are the horoscopes on the pyramids and the graves ? Because the tell exact dates when they were born and died. All in the middle ages … Why should the Chinese hide the 400 pyramids here and the real Great Wall ? Not to answer natural questions like who , when and why has built the piramids all over the Earth ? Why the wall runs in the middle of the country ? How came that the Uigur people of China and the Bengali people of Bangladesh have 80% Arian Y-DNA R1a ? How came that all pharaohs have either R1b or R1a happlogroups ?

tom

pre 9 godina

yea ok there and who Is suffering ? the west and the EU.....dumb americans think it works and its failing big time and more and more countries are telling America to get lost.....so many nations are sighing with Russia and china and even EU states are doing major business with Russia and not listening to America no more.....nobody cares for American lies and propaganda anymore in this new world....America = fail......

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

Despite all the US/EU nonsensical threats, Europe could not withstand more than about 3 months maximum of gas cut-off from Russia - and even that long would do terrible damage to European industry, on top of Europe's very high energy prices.The US was relying on their EU / US propaganda blitz, trying to cast Russia as the aggressor in Ukraine - even though the exact opposite was true - to get public opinion backing for heavy sanctions against Russia.That failed - and most Europeans, as polls show, do not believe the US / EU propaganda at all, and do not support sanctions against Russia.
The US neocons haven’t learned anything from Iraq - where after causing the deaths of over a million civilians there, the country is now infinitely worse-off than it was under Saddam.But the neo-con's partners-in-crime, the US oil companies, and the military suppliers, all made a fortune. And the US tax-payer has a bill of one trillion dollars for that shameful invasion of a sovereign country by the US and its puppets.
The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.

joseph

pre 9 godina

iraq.

The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt, which S.Hussain began to do. Please see jeremiah chapters fifty and fifty-one, the whole chapters. but especially50:39,40;and 51:26,62.
51:26, they shall not take of thee for a stone or a corner..but thou shall be desolate for ever, says the LORD.(YAH or Jehovah).and :62,O LORD thou has spoken against this place.. that it shouldd be desolate for ever.
50:40, AS GOd overethrew Sodom and Gomorrah..so shall no man abide in thee.
Isaiah 19 prophesies good things about "Assyria"which took the Northern Kingdom captive and Ninevah could be around Mosul,where it says, :24, IN that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in midst of the land, :25. Whom the LORD of Hosts shall bless saying, Blessed Egypt my people, Assyria the work of myhands andd Israel my heritage.


Egypt is prophesied to become the peopel of YHWH, and, despite the tragedy , Yah is working in the Iraq areA and these two nations are prophesied to come to YHWH of the Bible!

rote

pre 9 godina

Parrisson

We? Why we? Oh, you must be an Ukrainian citizen living in the east

No I must be living in the center of Moscow but my people also lives on the left bank of Ukraine that makes half of this country. Don’t you believe that the conflict can be localized in Donbass ! This autumn 8 other Russian regions that produce 80% of the GDP here will also rebel. Do not pay much attention to what Lavrov and Putin talk to our mortal enemies. When you deal with bastards you don’t have to remain a gentleman. All Russians on both sides of the border use word WE or US because we are one people. We are like any divided nation meeting an obstacle. 25 million of the Russians outside the mainland also say WE. We are tired to hear the lie year by year over most things happening on this planet. Remember how you stole KiM , how they destroyed many Muslim countries , deprived Serbs of their lands in Croatia , Montenegro , Bosnia and Kosovo … Who else can stop the evil if not Russia ? So the world is divided for US and THEM. You belong to them but the left bank Ukrainians are part of the Russian world. So I say WE …

RK

pre 9 godina

Joseph

“The God of the bible has prophesied that Babylon shall never be rebuilt …”

Forget about everything in Scaliger history before 1700. After this date the events are given more or less correct though some of the interpretations are also false. As for Babylon , Troy , Constantinople , “ancient” Jerusalem , Tsar grad , Istanbul all are just one city. It may shock you but there’s not a single evidence that Babylon or Troy or traditional Jerusalem has ever existed.

Jerusalem was called any place where the top Jewish clergyman stayed. If he moved to another place this new place was called Jerusalem. During Bible events Jerusalem was on Biosphere (Jordan) 20 km away from Istanbul. Arabs called it Beit-Ul-Moqddas or the Saint City. During crusading wars Islam or Muslims were never mentioned because there was no Islam yet …

They only source of Troy was Gomer’s poem that was first written down 300 years after he died. Gomer ( if he really existed ) was blind born and had no chance to write his poems. Besides like 100% in Scaliger version history only copies of the poem are available. We are offered to believe in fairy tales of never existed phantom ancient Rome and Greece and Pharaohs with R1b happlogroup …

Joe the Greek

pre 9 godina

The postwar US hegemony is now in peril of crashing to the ground as the dollar is usurped as a reserve currency and replaced by other trading currencies.
(Leonidas, 5 June 2014 18:37)

Leonidas,

Which other currencies are you talking about, the Drachma. Have you ever even been to Greece. Do you have a paying job. Stop your nonsense, you are embarrassing us.

jep

pre 9 godina

Yeh, that's right. Bloody Ruskies should take back the 15 million Russian squatters in the south and east of Ukraine; they should get their ships out of NATO base number 1001 (previously known as Crimea); pay compensation of ten trillion dollars to Ukrainians for mistreating them over the past 300 years; give up their ludicrous claims the Arctic seabed and, Oh yes, they must recognise the independence of Kosovo. Unless they all this, then sanctions will be imposed.

The writing is on the wall for the Russians. It is time for Russia to disengage from the EU. South Stream should be abandoned and the focus should be on developing closer ties with China, India, Korea, Japan and beyond. The EU and its American masters have gone mad. Russia should steer well clear of them.
(Michael Thomas, 5 June 2014 14:02) lol then you woke up hey Albanian , man your a joke like your tiny midgets....Kosovo is Serbian lands not your Albanian lands.....

rote

pre 9 godina

Ian, UK

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO GET THAT IT WAS A MISPRINT. BUT I CAN HELP YOU. I MEANT A COUNTRY THAT LIVED TOO GOOD SO THE YANKEES ORGANIZED A NO FLIGHT ZONE HERE AND NOW THEY LIVE IN DEMOCRACY. SEE THEIR YESTERDAY LOSSES AND ASK YOURSELF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE USD 200 BLN ON GADDAFI’S BANK ACCOUNTS ?

Commentator,

“Byebye Southstream”

Bye bye Commentator ! The Qataris (Bulgarians) won’t refuse so easily. The Chavdars gain more money from Gazprom than from EU. So the risk is to this clown cloud organization but not to SS. Russia will deliver the gas in any way be it through Turkey and Greece (both are dreaming of it !) or as prepaid to the officials of the states involved. Only idiots may think that what is good for Russia and Serbia is automatically bad to their rivals. S.Stream makes the gas cheaper for all ! Besides we all know that Gazprom is stronger than EU. Relax as Gazprom will warm you in any case … for your money of course.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

(think about it, 6 June 2014 02:52)

I would hazard a guess that you haven't got a clue how bad things are and how much worse it's going to get. It's going to blindside so many people, but they will be distracted by war and Russia can be scapegoated as the cause.Russia isn't going to suffer financially - for the simple reason that they have developed new markets for their gas in Asia with China being a big buyer.Ukraine is going to freeze this Winter and so are many EU countries -not to mention the 350 billion trade with Russia.Life is about to get very interesting.

rote

pre 9 godina

think

1/ Greeks don’t have to waste their time to advocate Russia when Russians are available. Think about it.
2/ Yes Leonidas must be overestimating the fall of dollar because he hates to pay this rent to keep up the bastards. But the US is very worried about this foundation of the western prosperity. Because they estimate the threats as real they started this Cold War-2 to last for decades and to involve the whole globe. Just think about it.
3/ Yes Europe will in no case die without the Russian gas. But it will soon lose an important basis of competitiveness. It may bring domino processes in social and political spheres to replace the elites. If G7 is composed on the economic might then there would be 4 BRICS (China , India, Russia , Brasil) countries and 1 European (Germany) + USA + Japan. When Putin came nobody could imagine this. Think about it.
4/ Gazprom earns USD 200 million per day or USD 6 Bln per month. But even these money compose only 15% of what Russia is earning on oil and gas. But there are many other items of exports. All available in the web. Say Russia exports as many arms as the USA. So our finance are good enough. At least we are the only state with profit budget on the continent. Think about it and compare it with the Albanian budget.

RK

pre 9 godina

Gotsefromohrid

“Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.”

If you are patient enough and behave yourself I am ready to teach you something I already know but in the end it may kill you and destroy things you had been trusting and taking as axioms. You may offer your own plan of reeducation but propose to start with the most vital items the Scaliger history is based on. So the stories we know have been invented something you will learn with my help. Right now I have to talk with a wall so please start to learn something by yourself.

1/ Please learn more about the old maps available and compare them with the official stories about Columbus , Vespucci , Vikings ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_maps#Earliest_known_maps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_World_Map
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/World/World
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Russia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/Asia/Asia
http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/browse/category/America/America

2/ I believe that next we have to move to the phantom of Karl the Great as the founder of the Great Roman Empire. It is the concrete foundation of the whole European history. When you read something please remember that the most important thing for any king is his biography. Because only biography gives him the right for state power. Later I’ll reveal you the key.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joe the Greek, 7 June 2014 21:09)

If you’re Greek, which I doubt, there is a story during the siege of Troy the Gods started to fight amongst themselves and the mighty Achilles sat on the side. When asked why was’nt he on the battle field he replied ‘when the Gods are at war mere mortals can only side on the side and watch’.
Its totally beyond you to understand what Leonidas is talking about and to explain takes too much room on this site.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

RK

I've always thought lunatics are in the asylum not posting on this site.Make an effort and see a psychaitrist before you kill someone.

Leonidas

pre 9 godina

sj, 9 June 2014 11:04)

Thank for your intervention but it's been my policy not to reply to postings by any newly created ignorant joe and his personal insinuations.My exchange with Rote was about the reduced role of the US dollar in world trade which is supported by statistics and show how fast the Chinese Yuan is coming onto the world stage.If one throws in the recent trade and currency agreements signed by China not only with the BRIC countries but also with Germany,France,Italy,UK it won't be too long before the US dollar becomes irrelevant.