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Monday, 02.06.2014.

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Serbian patriarch visits Albania, nationalists protest

Leaders of Orthodox Christian churches - including a delegation of the Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) headed by Patriarch Irinej - were in Albania on Sunday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage.
(Brandon, 2 June 2014 21:43)

You're either making things up or you're illiterate. Albanians protested. Read the article. Even here you people are dumb enough to ignore facts and make up excuses. Albanians have never demonstrated tolerance for anything. They bitch, moan, whine, cry, and complain like the primitive people they are, expecting everything and giving nothing.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well
(Danilo, 3 June 2014 20:37)

So in other words, Serbs would act like Albanians? Ok...

I believe such a scenario does happen. It's called Albanian Flag Day in Presevo. Last I checked, Serbs didn't go bat shi!t crazy over it. The internet, yes. In Serbia, no.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Reply sensibly to what Peggy? sj? the guy who said he'd been paid 20 EURO's to take part in a protest in 1994? as for me participating on your site, well what makes you think this is your site? do you have shares in it?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@sj, as you can see this troll Nikolle is not going to reply sensibly. Albanians have only one weapon in their arsenal and that is avoiding direct answers and distortion. Time has come to ignore Nikolle because frnakly it's getting nowhere and what Nikolle thinks is so irrelevant. Albnians need to come to a Serbian site to get their agression out. You don't see us going to their sites because we don't need to spew vanom at them and we don't need to provoke them. The fact that they are on our site attacking us day in day out proves they are agressive and poisenous. Ignoring them like we would ignore a rattle snake is the way to go. Feel sorry for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo who cannot avoid them.

GG

pre 9 godina

To all the croat and albanian trolls, your lucky to even have a country after WW2, if it wasn't for Tito.. Im sure most of you would have adapted well in the Kingdom of Serbia.

Lastly, this article is a bit biased.. Just a bunch of dumb wanabee nationalistic albanians. Albanians from Albania don't even like the one's from kosovo and that's a fact. Both live in two different worlds, and during the kosovo war, Albania didn't even help thier fellow albanians in Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

that's it sj, you keep cheering yourself with blind rhetoric. p.s. i'm still in Prishtina, you're still talking about kicking me out.
as for Croats & Albanians, have told you before, I am not aware of there being a significant Albanian community in Croatia. if you know different, then share your knowledge. by the way, what i wrote is true, according to your side, you were victims in Bosnia, victims in Croatia, victims in Kosova and victimized by the Ottomans as well. who knows, maybe there is something wrong with you (and I can give you a list if you like)

sj

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out
(Nikolle, 5 June 2014 11:18)
What are you talking about? The Croats kicked all Albanians out during Operation Storm. The Bosnaiks dont like Albanians either.
We are smarter, far superior to Albanians and very soon we will take control over Kosovo. Watch as Russia takes what it wants in Ukraine then next taget is Romania then the Balkans then we will see a lot of little Albos running for their lives back to Albania.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Take that, Wille, ya arse! Everyone knows that Serbs committed some crimes, but it was Albanians' fault.

For example, when Milosevic took away Kosovo's autonomy in 1989, closed Albanian language schools, removed Albanians from positions in the government - some might see that as a unilateral act of state violence. Of course that's ridiculous. Just look at the case of Djordje Martinovic to understand the situation. Everyone knows that Serbs also committed crimes but it's so unfair that most people don't understand that Albanians forced them to overreact.

Poor Serbs :(

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.
(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54
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It's not BS. Albanians are lucky because they are useful pawns in America's aresenal, that's all.
The west say this or that but so much propaganda has come out of the west in order to further their own agenda. Eventually the truth does come out.

Now I never said that Serbs didn't commit crimes. I have always acknowledged that but I am yet to have you Albanians acknowledge that your beloved KLA committed crimes too. Nobody has seen fit to acknowledge that their side committed crimes except Serbs. You started the whole mess by terrorizing Serbs in Kosovo for decades and that's a fact. Serbia reacted and yes in some instances over reacted. That's also a fact. My whole point was that Albanians were to eager to expel as many Serbs as they could from Kosovo thereby changing ethic make up of the region.
Are you denying that Albanians were murdering policemen well before the war?
You wnat the truth, then admit the whole truth including your own people's crimes and what led up to the mess.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54)

Only the banal and less worldly talk about a free world. But if Serbia is such a pariah why does your beloved leader of the free world associate with the like of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait then what happen to the elections in Egypt? What the el president had 97% vote for him and not a peep out of the United States of Piss and Wind?
Willi the first rule of seeing properly is to take your head out of your arse.

catholicalbanian

pre 9 godina

first is shame so many people where killed
from serbian and kosovon
this guy did comment last week in albania was wrong
he should a refused to comment about kosovo
kosovo killed serbs,serbs killed kosovon
should stop all this politic
just get on with this life now
cheers

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.
(Peggy, 4 June 2014 13:01)

Peggy, it might be considered common knowledge in your twisted and sick one-track mind, but most certainly not in in the rest of the world, especially in the West. Serbia will have to eventually face up with its past if it wants to become part of the free world. No matter how much you and your friends try to ignore these facts, and live in a dream world where Serbia was the victim to evil outside forces, it won't change the fact that in the name of Serbia ethnic cleansing and massmurder was committed across the Balkans during the 90's. That is will not be forgotten, and in order to live peacefully with your neighbors Serbia has to realize that before a lasting peace can be achieved. Nothing else works, and people like you are preventing this from happening. You want war, you want things the way they were under Milosevic, a great Serbia which rules the Balkans, and you do not realize that by acting this way, you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!
(Danilo, 4 June 2014 11:02)
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Exactly Mr smart arse.
Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

That's horrible, Peggy! What animals! Victimizing Serbia for no reason! So sad that Serbia has been a victim of unilateral violence again and again when they were just minding their own business. Clearly, the only answer is to cleanse Kosovo of all the Albanian filth. Eventually, they'll thank Serbia for it too, after they understand how wrong they all were.

Poor Serbia :(

Danilo

pre 9 godina

(Peggy, 4 June 2014 02:23)

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?
(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

We Serbs did not kill Ablanians just for being Albanian but for killing us first. We had to start defending ourselves from your agression in Kosovo. If we had killed any Christian Albanians it's for the same reason but in Kosovo you would be hard pressed to find any and willing to go and join KLA.
For as long as Albanianism comes before Orhtodox to your lot, you will attack us so don't blame us for defending ourselves.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
Since you hosted Apostle Paul and have been there since time began, then why is there no evidence of such a rich culture? Not even a cave painting? The Turks, Romans and Serbs have all left structures, but not even an outhouse from the Albanians? Please don’t go on about Serbs stealing Albanian Churches because its all BS.
The only reason Albanian Muslims have not been aggressive is due to the former Communists, but soon that will change just like in Turkey. You’re a fool to think that Serbs tried to provoke “Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones”. You think the Serbs created Muslim fundamentalist?
Irinje was invited by the head of the Albanian Orthodox Church, so go and complain to him.
Once again when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim don’t cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well

Daddy Cool aka Johnny Boom Boom

pre 9 godina

Lenard is not a Croat. Lenard is an Albanian from a village in Bosnia that was disowned and exiled by his clan. He is also Roberto's partner and Jack's ex-partner. Any more info regarding these here village people go to the archives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_lIS_iHAE

marKo

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)

Mirel, I would like to point a couple of things out to you as a fellow Orthodox Christian. 1, the Serbian state did not send the Serbian Patriach, the Serbian patriarch was invited in christian brotherhood and went. 2, I disagree with your assesment of the Serbian Patriach, but there have been Patriarchs that I don't like either, and like you, I to have struggled with phyletism. Don't let it cloud your judgment. Have faith in the Church as it is Christ's ministry.


Remember the words that we pray in the second Antiphon of the Divine Liturgy

"Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.

When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.
The Lord will reign forever; Thy God, O Zion, to all generations.
Now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen."

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.
(sj, 3 June 2014 11:17)....

I have been her since the beginning of the time. My ancestors hosted Apostle Paul, become Christian, fought along George Castriot Scanderbeg, fought against Turks from the Albanian’s Independence, against Greeks in 1916 to preserve Albanian's independence, against Italians and Germans.
My grandfather was along His Holiness Theofan Stilian Noli to found Albanian Orthodox Church, a separate from Greek one.
I was among the students who protest against communism in 1999 and my family hosted K-Alb refugees, who were kicked out of their homes in 1999.

All of this times none of Albanian Muslims or Catholic ones have come and kick me out, but they fought along me.

Irenej and his boys wanted to provoke Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones, but he failed and this was our victory against his fascist ideology.

Kudos to all Albanians for not falling in Irenej's trap!

@Peggy,

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 3 June 2014 11:12)

Lenny you hear voices? Take more pills and voices go away. I love these Croats, they are worst mass murders in history and they start invoking God. I must admit you Catholics are a funny lot.

sj

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

My Albanian friends and my mixed up fooled Serbian's. God of the bible is good this Irinej is not he dose not even reprisent God in any way shape or form. 2Co 11:14

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Act 26:18

to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus.'

sj

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

That’s right. The Albanians just kicked out all the Turks, Albanian Roma, Croats and all other non-Albanians as soon as they followed in NATO forces in 1999. It took armed troops to assist the return of most of these groups. In fact Albanian Roma to this day live near Serbs settlements because of your groups love of their neighbours.
Revisionism is a fabulous thing.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
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Take it up with your government. They, after all, granted him a visa.
Just because an Alanian says that he/she is Orthodox doesn't make their vuew any more valid than the Muslim Albanian's. Do you honestly think that all other Orthodox people view you any better because you are Orthodox too? Of course not. You are ready to kill another Orthodox at the drop of a hat and only have loyalty to Albania for Albanianism is your true religion. You have stated that many times over.

marKo

pre 9 godina

Congratulations to the Orthodox in Albania. It is a lovely church, and you have put chruch canon and communian with all faithful above bickering and politics. This shows that it is possible to uphold the traditions of the faith even in hostile political times.

To the protesters, this is your right to protest, but those who build acccomplish more than those who would tear down.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

I that religions are made for peace and prosperity not for HATE (as usually) one thing my hope is people in Balkan one day will say NO as i call them Religiocorruption enough is enough no matter what religion you belong...it destroy Balkan for century's and it will IN FUTURE if continues in this path..PEACE ....and for the end its the people who choose politician to do or care regarding issues not the RELIGION remember religion is a think you choose to accept (so you can waist your time) or not in the end you can live without it but a honest government you choose its the key of your future who cares about you supplying with job's better live because MONEY don't fall from SKY's

Brandon

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage. Albania, showed the world one more time that they respect the freedom of religion and good neighborly relations. Of course that was not what the Patriarch wanted.

Democratic People's Republic of Kosova Ministry of Propaganda

pre 9 godina

Alliance activists opposed the participation of the SPC dignitaries as they said the church "ignores Albanian history and considers Kosovo to be part of Serbia,"

They have a point. The Patriarch talked about Serb-Albanian co-existence in Kosovo, which as everyone know is certainly not a part of "Albanian history". It's a good thing he ignored Albanian history. All those collaborations, murders, illegal migrations, overbreeding, and Hoxha education is no history anyone would be proud to call their own.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

If Irinej would just do what he supposed to do, namely just being a cleric, he would be most welcome. Problem is that he is meddling in politics and agitates against the Albanian people (no matter which faith). That makes him an unwelcome person.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

not being aggressive doesn't mean being peaceful. It just means being incompetent. Albanians are aggressive to themselves. Especially when it comes to food. Looks like many here were starving.

http://youtu.be/zZTS1YoU54c

Reader

pre 9 godina

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 June 2014 15:54)

Not very large. That movement did not even make it to the parliament in the elections last year because they are led by clowns. Mullah Irinej found his match. However, they make it on B92 and what is even funnier is that B92 incorrectly asserts that they are connected with Self Determination of Albin Kurti, which is a much more serious and respectable political force.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Edi Rama( who by the way is Orthodox) recieved the delegation and criticised Irenej in the face" by abusingthe friendship and warmness offered by Albanians"

Prime minister Rama also boycotted the dinner,as a protest of Irenej comments in Top Channel.

Basha will say the same today.

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.

Motren Kuta Keni

pre 9 godina

There was no nationalist protest in Albania. There was only an ugly and extremist provocation by your priest and his boyz. In Albania everyone is welcomed, our worst enemies are been respected, even when they ofend us as it heppened this time. You know we have big hearts, big patience and for sure we know how to treat our guests. As we say in Albania our home belongs to the God and to the Guest.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Why don't your media comment on missing, murdered or raped Serbs killed by KLA bastards?? Oh that's right. Albanians never did anything to anyone in the long long history of their glorious civilization in the Balkans.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Because this is a Serbian news web site Arian. It is good they even publish your comment. This is as good as it gets, some things are filtered.

Regarding mullah Irinej's visit and provocations in Albania, what he said should have been expected.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Surprise surprise. Albanian nationalists are pissed at something no one else cares about.

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

LOL the best part about your comment is that you honestly believe your BS to be true. You and Lenard ought to team up and take your comedic village idiocy on the road :)

Prague

pre 9 godina

We it was not a bed idea to be in Albania,But he should be more careful with hes declaration bc everyone know what happens in Kosovo by Serbian and all that blood it will be a difficult to forget by a member of there lost family ,and now we have to forget some how and to start a new life for both of this country. Regarding from Albania

Arian

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?
(Questioner, 2 June 2014 10:21)

Why of course not silly, that is against international law! We will go about reestablishing a reunified Albania by peaceful and democratic means! Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!

Questioner

pre 9 godina

The nationalist Red and Black Alliance advocates "a uniform Albanian state where everyone is equally Albanian by ethnicity and there are no divisions into a majority and minority," Tanjug reported.

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'm beginning to think that in Europe, its only in the Balkans where people keep building religious sites. May well be one explanation why this part of the world is so primitive.

Arian

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Edi Rama( who by the way is Orthodox) recieved the delegation and criticised Irenej in the face" by abusingthe friendship and warmness offered by Albanians"

Prime minister Rama also boycotted the dinner,as a protest of Irenej comments in Top Channel.

Basha will say the same today.

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?
(Questioner, 2 June 2014 10:21)

Why of course not silly, that is against international law! We will go about reestablishing a reunified Albania by peaceful and democratic means! Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!

Brandon

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage. Albania, showed the world one more time that they respect the freedom of religion and good neighborly relations. Of course that was not what the Patriarch wanted.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

If Irinej would just do what he supposed to do, namely just being a cleric, he would be most welcome. Problem is that he is meddling in politics and agitates against the Albanian people (no matter which faith). That makes him an unwelcome person.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

LOL the best part about your comment is that you honestly believe your BS to be true. You and Lenard ought to team up and take your comedic village idiocy on the road :)

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'm beginning to think that in Europe, its only in the Balkans where people keep building religious sites. May well be one explanation why this part of the world is so primitive.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Because this is a Serbian news web site Arian. It is good they even publish your comment. This is as good as it gets, some things are filtered.

Regarding mullah Irinej's visit and provocations in Albania, what he said should have been expected.

Motren Kuta Keni

pre 9 godina

There was no nationalist protest in Albania. There was only an ugly and extremist provocation by your priest and his boyz. In Albania everyone is welcomed, our worst enemies are been respected, even when they ofend us as it heppened this time. You know we have big hearts, big patience and for sure we know how to treat our guests. As we say in Albania our home belongs to the God and to the Guest.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Why don't your media comment on missing, murdered or raped Serbs killed by KLA bastards?? Oh that's right. Albanians never did anything to anyone in the long long history of their glorious civilization in the Balkans.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.
(sj, 3 June 2014 11:17)....

I have been her since the beginning of the time. My ancestors hosted Apostle Paul, become Christian, fought along George Castriot Scanderbeg, fought against Turks from the Albanian’s Independence, against Greeks in 1916 to preserve Albanian's independence, against Italians and Germans.
My grandfather was along His Holiness Theofan Stilian Noli to found Albanian Orthodox Church, a separate from Greek one.
I was among the students who protest against communism in 1999 and my family hosted K-Alb refugees, who were kicked out of their homes in 1999.

All of this times none of Albanian Muslims or Catholic ones have come and kick me out, but they fought along me.

Irenej and his boys wanted to provoke Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones, but he failed and this was our victory against his fascist ideology.

Kudos to all Albanians for not falling in Irenej's trap!

@Peggy,

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Surprise surprise. Albanian nationalists are pissed at something no one else cares about.

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

not being aggressive doesn't mean being peaceful. It just means being incompetent. Albanians are aggressive to themselves. Especially when it comes to food. Looks like many here were starving.

http://youtu.be/zZTS1YoU54c

Questioner

pre 9 godina

The nationalist Red and Black Alliance advocates "a uniform Albanian state where everyone is equally Albanian by ethnicity and there are no divisions into a majority and minority," Tanjug reported.

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?

Democratic People's Republic of Kosova Ministry of Propaganda

pre 9 godina

Alliance activists opposed the participation of the SPC dignitaries as they said the church "ignores Albanian history and considers Kosovo to be part of Serbia,"

They have a point. The Patriarch talked about Serb-Albanian co-existence in Kosovo, which as everyone know is certainly not a part of "Albanian history". It's a good thing he ignored Albanian history. All those collaborations, murders, illegal migrations, overbreeding, and Hoxha education is no history anyone would be proud to call their own.

Prague

pre 9 godina

We it was not a bed idea to be in Albania,But he should be more careful with hes declaration bc everyone know what happens in Kosovo by Serbian and all that blood it will be a difficult to forget by a member of there lost family ,and now we have to forget some how and to start a new life for both of this country. Regarding from Albania

Reader

pre 9 godina

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 June 2014 15:54)

Not very large. That movement did not even make it to the parliament in the elections last year because they are led by clowns. Mullah Irinej found his match. However, they make it on B92 and what is even funnier is that B92 incorrectly asserts that they are connected with Self Determination of Albin Kurti, which is a much more serious and respectable political force.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.
(Peggy, 4 June 2014 13:01)

Peggy, it might be considered common knowledge in your twisted and sick one-track mind, but most certainly not in in the rest of the world, especially in the West. Serbia will have to eventually face up with its past if it wants to become part of the free world. No matter how much you and your friends try to ignore these facts, and live in a dream world where Serbia was the victim to evil outside forces, it won't change the fact that in the name of Serbia ethnic cleansing and massmurder was committed across the Balkans during the 90's. That is will not be forgotten, and in order to live peacefully with your neighbors Serbia has to realize that before a lasting peace can be achieved. Nothing else works, and people like you are preventing this from happening. You want war, you want things the way they were under Milosevic, a great Serbia which rules the Balkans, and you do not realize that by acting this way, you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

(Peggy, 4 June 2014 02:23)

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!

Lenard

pre 9 godina

My Albanian friends and my mixed up fooled Serbian's. God of the bible is good this Irinej is not he dose not even reprisent God in any way shape or form. 2Co 11:14

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Act 26:18

to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus.'

Danilo

pre 9 godina

That's horrible, Peggy! What animals! Victimizing Serbia for no reason! So sad that Serbia has been a victim of unilateral violence again and again when they were just minding their own business. Clearly, the only answer is to cleanse Kosovo of all the Albanian filth. Eventually, they'll thank Serbia for it too, after they understand how wrong they all were.

Poor Serbia :(

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 3 June 2014 11:12)

Lenny you hear voices? Take more pills and voices go away. I love these Croats, they are worst mass murders in history and they start invoking God. I must admit you Catholics are a funny lot.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

that's it sj, you keep cheering yourself with blind rhetoric. p.s. i'm still in Prishtina, you're still talking about kicking me out.
as for Croats & Albanians, have told you before, I am not aware of there being a significant Albanian community in Croatia. if you know different, then share your knowledge. by the way, what i wrote is true, according to your side, you were victims in Bosnia, victims in Croatia, victims in Kosova and victimized by the Ottomans as well. who knows, maybe there is something wrong with you (and I can give you a list if you like)

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

I that religions are made for peace and prosperity not for HATE (as usually) one thing my hope is people in Balkan one day will say NO as i call them Religiocorruption enough is enough no matter what religion you belong...it destroy Balkan for century's and it will IN FUTURE if continues in this path..PEACE ....and for the end its the people who choose politician to do or care regarding issues not the RELIGION remember religion is a think you choose to accept (so you can waist your time) or not in the end you can live without it but a honest government you choose its the key of your future who cares about you supplying with job's better live because MONEY don't fall from SKY's

Peggy

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
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Take it up with your government. They, after all, granted him a visa.
Just because an Alanian says that he/she is Orthodox doesn't make their vuew any more valid than the Muslim Albanian's. Do you honestly think that all other Orthodox people view you any better because you are Orthodox too? Of course not. You are ready to kill another Orthodox at the drop of a hat and only have loyalty to Albania for Albanianism is your true religion. You have stated that many times over.

marKo

pre 9 godina

Congratulations to the Orthodox in Albania. It is a lovely church, and you have put chruch canon and communian with all faithful above bickering and politics. This shows that it is possible to uphold the traditions of the faith even in hostile political times.

To the protesters, this is your right to protest, but those who build acccomplish more than those who would tear down.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Take that, Wille, ya arse! Everyone knows that Serbs committed some crimes, but it was Albanians' fault.

For example, when Milosevic took away Kosovo's autonomy in 1989, closed Albanian language schools, removed Albanians from positions in the government - some might see that as a unilateral act of state violence. Of course that's ridiculous. Just look at the case of Djordje Martinovic to understand the situation. Everyone knows that Serbs also committed crimes but it's so unfair that most people don't understand that Albanians forced them to overreact.

Poor Serbs :(

GG

pre 9 godina

To all the croat and albanian trolls, your lucky to even have a country after WW2, if it wasn't for Tito.. Im sure most of you would have adapted well in the Kingdom of Serbia.

Lastly, this article is a bit biased.. Just a bunch of dumb wanabee nationalistic albanians. Albanians from Albania don't even like the one's from kosovo and that's a fact. Both live in two different worlds, and during the kosovo war, Albania didn't even help thier fellow albanians in Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Reply sensibly to what Peggy? sj? the guy who said he'd been paid 20 EURO's to take part in a protest in 1994? as for me participating on your site, well what makes you think this is your site? do you have shares in it?

sj

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

That’s right. The Albanians just kicked out all the Turks, Albanian Roma, Croats and all other non-Albanians as soon as they followed in NATO forces in 1999. It took armed troops to assist the return of most of these groups. In fact Albanian Roma to this day live near Serbs settlements because of your groups love of their neighbours.
Revisionism is a fabulous thing.

sj

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.

Daddy Cool aka Johnny Boom Boom

pre 9 godina

Lenard is not a Croat. Lenard is an Albanian from a village in Bosnia that was disowned and exiled by his clan. He is also Roberto's partner and Jack's ex-partner. Any more info regarding these here village people go to the archives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_lIS_iHAE

sj

pre 9 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
Since you hosted Apostle Paul and have been there since time began, then why is there no evidence of such a rich culture? Not even a cave painting? The Turks, Romans and Serbs have all left structures, but not even an outhouse from the Albanians? Please don’t go on about Serbs stealing Albanian Churches because its all BS.
The only reason Albanian Muslims have not been aggressive is due to the former Communists, but soon that will change just like in Turkey. You’re a fool to think that Serbs tried to provoke “Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones”. You think the Serbs created Muslim fundamentalist?
Irinje was invited by the head of the Albanian Orthodox Church, so go and complain to him.
Once again when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim don’t cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US

Peggy

pre 9 godina

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?
(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

We Serbs did not kill Ablanians just for being Albanian but for killing us first. We had to start defending ourselves from your agression in Kosovo. If we had killed any Christian Albanians it's for the same reason but in Kosovo you would be hard pressed to find any and willing to go and join KLA.
For as long as Albanianism comes before Orhtodox to your lot, you will attack us so don't blame us for defending ourselves.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!
(Danilo, 4 June 2014 11:02)
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Exactly Mr smart arse.
Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.

catholicalbanian

pre 9 godina

first is shame so many people where killed
from serbian and kosovon
this guy did comment last week in albania was wrong
he should a refused to comment about kosovo
kosovo killed serbs,serbs killed kosovon
should stop all this politic
just get on with this life now
cheers

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.
(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54
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It's not BS. Albanians are lucky because they are useful pawns in America's aresenal, that's all.
The west say this or that but so much propaganda has come out of the west in order to further their own agenda. Eventually the truth does come out.

Now I never said that Serbs didn't commit crimes. I have always acknowledged that but I am yet to have you Albanians acknowledge that your beloved KLA committed crimes too. Nobody has seen fit to acknowledge that their side committed crimes except Serbs. You started the whole mess by terrorizing Serbs in Kosovo for decades and that's a fact. Serbia reacted and yes in some instances over reacted. That's also a fact. My whole point was that Albanians were to eager to expel as many Serbs as they could from Kosovo thereby changing ethic make up of the region.
Are you denying that Albanians were murdering policemen well before the war?
You wnat the truth, then admit the whole truth including your own people's crimes and what led up to the mess.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage.
(Brandon, 2 June 2014 21:43)

You're either making things up or you're illiterate. Albanians protested. Read the article. Even here you people are dumb enough to ignore facts and make up excuses. Albanians have never demonstrated tolerance for anything. They bitch, moan, whine, cry, and complain like the primitive people they are, expecting everything and giving nothing.

sj

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out
(Nikolle, 5 June 2014 11:18)
What are you talking about? The Croats kicked all Albanians out during Operation Storm. The Bosnaiks dont like Albanians either.
We are smarter, far superior to Albanians and very soon we will take control over Kosovo. Watch as Russia takes what it wants in Ukraine then next taget is Romania then the Balkans then we will see a lot of little Albos running for their lives back to Albania.

marKo

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)

Mirel, I would like to point a couple of things out to you as a fellow Orthodox Christian. 1, the Serbian state did not send the Serbian Patriach, the Serbian patriarch was invited in christian brotherhood and went. 2, I disagree with your assesment of the Serbian Patriach, but there have been Patriarchs that I don't like either, and like you, I to have struggled with phyletism. Don't let it cloud your judgment. Have faith in the Church as it is Christ's ministry.


Remember the words that we pray in the second Antiphon of the Divine Liturgy

"Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.

When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.
The Lord will reign forever; Thy God, O Zion, to all generations.
Now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen."

sj

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54)

Only the banal and less worldly talk about a free world. But if Serbia is such a pariah why does your beloved leader of the free world associate with the like of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait then what happen to the elections in Egypt? What the el president had 97% vote for him and not a peep out of the United States of Piss and Wind?
Willi the first rule of seeing properly is to take your head out of your arse.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well
(Danilo, 3 June 2014 20:37)

So in other words, Serbs would act like Albanians? Ok...

I believe such a scenario does happen. It's called Albanian Flag Day in Presevo. Last I checked, Serbs didn't go bat shi!t crazy over it. The internet, yes. In Serbia, no.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@sj, as you can see this troll Nikolle is not going to reply sensibly. Albanians have only one weapon in their arsenal and that is avoiding direct answers and distortion. Time has come to ignore Nikolle because frnakly it's getting nowhere and what Nikolle thinks is so irrelevant. Albnians need to come to a Serbian site to get their agression out. You don't see us going to their sites because we don't need to spew vanom at them and we don't need to provoke them. The fact that they are on our site attacking us day in day out proves they are agressive and poisenous. Ignoring them like we would ignore a rattle snake is the way to go. Feel sorry for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo who cannot avoid them.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'm beginning to think that in Europe, its only in the Balkans where people keep building religious sites. May well be one explanation why this part of the world is so primitive.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Why don't your media comment on missing, murdered or raped Serbs killed by KLA bastards?? Oh that's right. Albanians never did anything to anyone in the long long history of their glorious civilization in the Balkans.

Questioner

pre 9 godina

The nationalist Red and Black Alliance advocates "a uniform Albanian state where everyone is equally Albanian by ethnicity and there are no divisions into a majority and minority," Tanjug reported.

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Ah. So they advocate an ethnically pure Albanian state? Means a 'greater Albania'. But how to achieve it? By ethnic cleansing, like it was done for the 'greater Serbia' project?
(Questioner, 2 June 2014 10:21)

Why of course not silly, that is against international law! We will go about reestablishing a reunified Albania by peaceful and democratic means! Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!

Navi

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

not being aggressive doesn't mean being peaceful. It just means being incompetent. Albanians are aggressive to themselves. Especially when it comes to food. Looks like many here were starving.

http://youtu.be/zZTS1YoU54c

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors! Serbia however, is known for her aggressive endeavors & genocidal tendencies into other country's, Serbia is the undisputed champion to this title!!!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

LOL the best part about your comment is that you honestly believe your BS to be true. You and Lenard ought to team up and take your comedic village idiocy on the road :)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Surprise surprise. Albanian nationalists are pissed at something no one else cares about.

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.

Arian

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

Edi Rama( who by the way is Orthodox) recieved the delegation and criticised Irenej in the face" by abusingthe friendship and warmness offered by Albanians"

Prime minister Rama also boycotted the dinner,as a protest of Irenej comments in Top Channel.

Basha will say the same today.

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.

Democratic People's Republic of Kosova Ministry of Propaganda

pre 9 godina

Alliance activists opposed the participation of the SPC dignitaries as they said the church "ignores Albanian history and considers Kosovo to be part of Serbia,"

They have a point. The Patriarch talked about Serb-Albanian co-existence in Kosovo, which as everyone know is certainly not a part of "Albanian history". It's a good thing he ignored Albanian history. All those collaborations, murders, illegal migrations, overbreeding, and Hoxha education is no history anyone would be proud to call their own.

Prague

pre 9 godina

We it was not a bed idea to be in Albania,But he should be more careful with hes declaration bc everyone know what happens in Kosovo by Serbian and all that blood it will be a difficult to forget by a member of there lost family ,and now we have to forget some how and to start a new life for both of this country. Regarding from Albania

Motren Kuta Keni

pre 9 godina

There was no nationalist protest in Albania. There was only an ugly and extremist provocation by your priest and his boyz. In Albania everyone is welcomed, our worst enemies are been respected, even when they ofend us as it heppened this time. You know we have big hearts, big patience and for sure we know how to treat our guests. As we say in Albania our home belongs to the God and to the Guest.

sj

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?
(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

We Serbs did not kill Ablanians just for being Albanian but for killing us first. We had to start defending ourselves from your agression in Kosovo. If we had killed any Christian Albanians it's for the same reason but in Kosovo you would be hard pressed to find any and willing to go and join KLA.
For as long as Albanianism comes before Orhtodox to your lot, you will attack us so don't blame us for defending ourselves.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)
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Take it up with your government. They, after all, granted him a visa.
Just because an Alanian says that he/she is Orthodox doesn't make their vuew any more valid than the Muslim Albanian's. Do you honestly think that all other Orthodox people view you any better because you are Orthodox too? Of course not. You are ready to kill another Orthodox at the drop of a hat and only have loyalty to Albania for Albanianism is your true religion. You have stated that many times over.

sj

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out
(Nikolle, 5 June 2014 11:18)
What are you talking about? The Croats kicked all Albanians out during Operation Storm. The Bosnaiks dont like Albanians either.
We are smarter, far superior to Albanians and very soon we will take control over Kosovo. Watch as Russia takes what it wants in Ukraine then next taget is Romania then the Balkans then we will see a lot of little Albos running for their lives back to Albania.

Commentator

pre 9 godina

If Irinej would just do what he supposed to do, namely just being a cleric, he would be most welcome. Problem is that he is meddling in politics and agitates against the Albanian people (no matter which faith). That makes him an unwelcome person.

sj

pre 9 godina

Albanians, as you should already know are not known for being aggressive towards their neighbors!
(Rocky, 2 June 2014 13:19)

That’s right. The Albanians just kicked out all the Turks, Albanian Roma, Croats and all other non-Albanians as soon as they followed in NATO forces in 1999. It took armed troops to assist the return of most of these groups. In fact Albanian Roma to this day live near Serbs settlements because of your groups love of their neighbours.
Revisionism is a fabulous thing.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Mirel from Albania, 3 June 2014 16:28)
Since you hosted Apostle Paul and have been there since time began, then why is there no evidence of such a rich culture? Not even a cave painting? The Turks, Romans and Serbs have all left structures, but not even an outhouse from the Albanians? Please don’t go on about Serbs stealing Albanian Churches because its all BS.
The only reason Albanian Muslims have not been aggressive is due to the former Communists, but soon that will change just like in Turkey. You’re a fool to think that Serbs tried to provoke “Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones”. You think the Serbs created Muslim fundamentalist?
Irinje was invited by the head of the Albanian Orthodox Church, so go and complain to him.
Once again when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim don’t cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US

Reader

pre 9 godina

Why do not you refer to your Irinej's entourage who were provoking the peaceful celebration with ultra-nationalist signs and serbian flags? why dont you comment on the what irinej stated in his interview where he kept moaning on the serbs who have been displaced and never said a word for the albanians killed by miloshevic and arkan bastards?!?!?!
(Arian, 2 June 2014 14:16)

Because this is a Serbian news web site Arian. It is good they even publish your comment. This is as good as it gets, some things are filtered.

Regarding mullah Irinej's visit and provocations in Albania, what he said should have been expected.

Brandon

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage. Albania, showed the world one more time that they respect the freedom of religion and good neighborly relations. Of course that was not what the Patriarch wanted.

Reader

pre 9 godina

How large was this crowd of protesters? Can't be too large. Probably more Albanian e-patriots trolling on this site than in that crowd.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 June 2014 15:54)

Not very large. That movement did not even make it to the parliament in the elections last year because they are led by clowns. Mullah Irinej found his match. However, they make it on B92 and what is even funnier is that B92 incorrectly asserts that they are connected with Self Determination of Albin Kurti, which is a much more serious and respectable political force.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!
(Danilo, 4 June 2014 11:02)
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Exactly Mr smart arse.
Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.

GG

pre 9 godina

To all the croat and albanian trolls, your lucky to even have a country after WW2, if it wasn't for Tito.. Im sure most of you would have adapted well in the Kingdom of Serbia.

Lastly, this article is a bit biased.. Just a bunch of dumb wanabee nationalistic albanians. Albanians from Albania don't even like the one's from kosovo and that's a fact. Both live in two different worlds, and during the kosovo war, Albania didn't even help thier fellow albanians in Kosovo.

Daddy Cool aka Johnny Boom Boom

pre 9 godina

Lenard is not a Croat. Lenard is an Albanian from a village in Bosnia that was disowned and exiled by his clan. He is also Roberto's partner and Jack's ex-partner. Any more info regarding these here village people go to the archives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_lIS_iHAE

Danilo

pre 9 godina

That's horrible, Peggy! What animals! Victimizing Serbia for no reason! So sad that Serbia has been a victim of unilateral violence again and again when they were just minding their own business. Clearly, the only answer is to cleanse Kosovo of all the Albanian filth. Eventually, they'll thank Serbia for it too, after they understand how wrong they all were.

Poor Serbia :(

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 3 June 2014 11:12)

Lenny you hear voices? Take more pills and voices go away. I love these Croats, they are worst mass murders in history and they start invoking God. I must admit you Catholics are a funny lot.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

My Albanian friends and my mixed up fooled Serbian's. God of the bible is good this Irinej is not he dose not even reprisent God in any way shape or form. 2Co 11:14

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Act 26:18

to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus.'

Danilo

pre 9 godina

(Peggy, 4 June 2014 02:23)

That's a horrible story, Peggy! You mean the Serbian state was doing nothing to Albanians and they rose up and started killing Serbs for no reason?? Poor Serbs!!

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Albanians have used terror for decades to drive Serbs out until they had to step up because they weren't getting the desired result.
Once they started murdering policemen Serbia knew they had to do something.
This is common knowledge but you, being a smart arse won't let the truth get in the way of finding Albnaians victims.
What you think is irrelevant anyway. We all know your bias.
(Peggy, 4 June 2014 13:01)

Peggy, it might be considered common knowledge in your twisted and sick one-track mind, but most certainly not in in the rest of the world, especially in the West. Serbia will have to eventually face up with its past if it wants to become part of the free world. No matter how much you and your friends try to ignore these facts, and live in a dream world where Serbia was the victim to evil outside forces, it won't change the fact that in the name of Serbia ethnic cleansing and massmurder was committed across the Balkans during the 90's. That is will not be forgotten, and in order to live peacefully with your neighbors Serbia has to realize that before a lasting peace can be achieved. Nothing else works, and people like you are preventing this from happening. You want war, you want things the way they were under Milosevic, a great Serbia which rules the Balkans, and you do not realize that by acting this way, you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

you destroy the dreams of many normal serb citizens, who long for peace with their neighbors, and had enough of the BS you preach every day.
(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54
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It's not BS. Albanians are lucky because they are useful pawns in America's aresenal, that's all.
The west say this or that but so much propaganda has come out of the west in order to further their own agenda. Eventually the truth does come out.

Now I never said that Serbs didn't commit crimes. I have always acknowledged that but I am yet to have you Albanians acknowledge that your beloved KLA committed crimes too. Nobody has seen fit to acknowledge that their side committed crimes except Serbs. You started the whole mess by terrorizing Serbs in Kosovo for decades and that's a fact. Serbia reacted and yes in some instances over reacted. That's also a fact. My whole point was that Albanians were to eager to expel as many Serbs as they could from Kosovo thereby changing ethic make up of the region.
Are you denying that Albanians were murdering policemen well before the war?
You wnat the truth, then admit the whole truth including your own people's crimes and what led up to the mess.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Willi Pfaff, 4 June 2014 14:54)

Only the banal and less worldly talk about a free world. But if Serbia is such a pariah why does your beloved leader of the free world associate with the like of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait then what happen to the elections in Egypt? What the el president had 97% vote for him and not a peep out of the United States of Piss and Wind?
Willi the first rule of seeing properly is to take your head out of your arse.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Take that, Wille, ya arse! Everyone knows that Serbs committed some crimes, but it was Albanians' fault.

For example, when Milosevic took away Kosovo's autonomy in 1989, closed Albanian language schools, removed Albanians from positions in the government - some might see that as a unilateral act of state violence. Of course that's ridiculous. Just look at the case of Djordje Martinovic to understand the situation. Everyone knows that Serbs also committed crimes but it's so unfair that most people don't understand that Albanians forced them to overreact.

Poor Serbs :(

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Albanians demonstrated their tolerance by ignoring provocative comments and actions by the Patriarch and his entourage.
(Brandon, 2 June 2014 21:43)

You're either making things up or you're illiterate. Albanians protested. Read the article. Even here you people are dumb enough to ignore facts and make up excuses. Albanians have never demonstrated tolerance for anything. They bitch, moan, whine, cry, and complain like the primitive people they are, expecting everything and giving nothing.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

As I have said many times on B92, when your non-christian Albanians start kicking you out of Albania for not being a Muslim dont cross over into Greece or Serbia just plunge into the Mediterranean Sea and swim to the US.
(sj, 3 June 2014 11:17)....

I have been her since the beginning of the time. My ancestors hosted Apostle Paul, become Christian, fought along George Castriot Scanderbeg, fought against Turks from the Albanian’s Independence, against Greeks in 1916 to preserve Albanian's independence, against Italians and Germans.
My grandfather was along His Holiness Theofan Stilian Noli to found Albanian Orthodox Church, a separate from Greek one.
I was among the students who protest against communism in 1999 and my family hosted K-Alb refugees, who were kicked out of their homes in 1999.

All of this times none of Albanian Muslims or Catholic ones have come and kick me out, but they fought along me.

Irenej and his boys wanted to provoke Muslim Albanians against Orthodox ones, but he failed and this was our victory against his fascist ideology.

Kudos to all Albanians for not falling in Irenej's trap!

@Peggy,

You Serbs have killed Albanians, just for being Albanian.
You have killed Muslims and Catholic Christian Albanians, without thinking twice. You will kill Orthodox Albanians if you had a chance, like Greeks have done before.
What are you talking about?

Danilo

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

such paranoia Peggy. Albanians were trying to kick you out, Croats were trying to kick you out, Bosnians were trying to kick you out and before that, the Ottomans were trying to kick you out. I wonder what it is about the heavenly people that makes others want to kick you out

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Imagine if it were the other way around and an Albanian imam held a service in the mosque in downtown Belgrade while members of his entourage flew Albanian flags and marched around flashing provocative symbols.

Would there be a protest? Would they try to burn the mosque down like they did in 2004? Pretty sure it wouldn't end well
(Danilo, 3 June 2014 20:37)

So in other words, Serbs would act like Albanians? Ok...

I believe such a scenario does happen. It's called Albanian Flag Day in Presevo. Last I checked, Serbs didn't go bat shi!t crazy over it. The internet, yes. In Serbia, no.

catholicalbanian

pre 9 godina

first is shame so many people where killed
from serbian and kosovon
this guy did comment last week in albania was wrong
he should a refused to comment about kosovo
kosovo killed serbs,serbs killed kosovon
should stop all this politic
just get on with this life now
cheers

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

that's it sj, you keep cheering yourself with blind rhetoric. p.s. i'm still in Prishtina, you're still talking about kicking me out.
as for Croats & Albanians, have told you before, I am not aware of there being a significant Albanian community in Croatia. if you know different, then share your knowledge. by the way, what i wrote is true, according to your side, you were victims in Bosnia, victims in Croatia, victims in Kosova and victimized by the Ottomans as well. who knows, maybe there is something wrong with you (and I can give you a list if you like)

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

I that religions are made for peace and prosperity not for HATE (as usually) one thing my hope is people in Balkan one day will say NO as i call them Religiocorruption enough is enough no matter what religion you belong...it destroy Balkan for century's and it will IN FUTURE if continues in this path..PEACE ....and for the end its the people who choose politician to do or care regarding issues not the RELIGION remember religion is a think you choose to accept (so you can waist your time) or not in the end you can live without it but a honest government you choose its the key of your future who cares about you supplying with job's better live because MONEY don't fall from SKY's

marKo

pre 9 godina

Congratulations to the Orthodox in Albania. It is a lovely church, and you have put chruch canon and communian with all faithful above bickering and politics. This shows that it is possible to uphold the traditions of the faith even in hostile political times.

To the protesters, this is your right to protest, but those who build acccomplish more than those who would tear down.

marKo

pre 9 godina

As orthodox I feel offended thay Serbia didnt find another person to send to Albania but allow the facist Irenej to come and insult us.
(Mirel from Albania, 2 June 2014 17:00)

Mirel, I would like to point a couple of things out to you as a fellow Orthodox Christian. 1, the Serbian state did not send the Serbian Patriach, the Serbian patriarch was invited in christian brotherhood and went. 2, I disagree with your assesment of the Serbian Patriach, but there have been Patriarchs that I don't like either, and like you, I to have struggled with phyletism. Don't let it cloud your judgment. Have faith in the Church as it is Christ's ministry.


Remember the words that we pray in the second Antiphon of the Divine Liturgy

"Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.

When his breath departs he returns to his earth; on that very day his plans perish.
The Lord will reign forever; Thy God, O Zion, to all generations.
Now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen."

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@sj, as you can see this troll Nikolle is not going to reply sensibly. Albanians have only one weapon in their arsenal and that is avoiding direct answers and distortion. Time has come to ignore Nikolle because frnakly it's getting nowhere and what Nikolle thinks is so irrelevant. Albnians need to come to a Serbian site to get their agression out. You don't see us going to their sites because we don't need to spew vanom at them and we don't need to provoke them. The fact that they are on our site attacking us day in day out proves they are agressive and poisenous. Ignoring them like we would ignore a rattle snake is the way to go. Feel sorry for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo who cannot avoid them.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Reply sensibly to what Peggy? sj? the guy who said he'd been paid 20 EURO's to take part in a protest in 1994? as for me participating on your site, well what makes you think this is your site? do you have shares in it?